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The Far Right's First 100 Days: Getting More Extreme by the Day
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Sometime back in February, about three weeks into Barack Obama's administration, everybody on the left suddenly noticed that there was something different going on with the conservatives.
The outrageous screeds and paranoid delusions sounded pretty much as they always had -- but there was a new fury behind them, a strident urgency that hadn't been there before, and a very audible shift of the gears in right-wing behavior and rhetoric.
None of this came as a surprise to veteran right-wing watchers -- we'd been predicting a bad backlash since the 2006 election -- but more than three months into the new administration, it's increasingly hard to ignore the fact that this ominous new trend is taking on a momentum of its own.
On April 7, the Department of Homeland Security ratified some of those observations. Fueled by bone-deep racism, an unnatural terror of liberal government, frustration over the economic downturn, and fears about America's loss of world standing, they said, the militant right wing is indeed rising again.
Its numbers are up, its talk is turning ugly, and it's not unthinkable that we could be in for a wave of domestic terrorism unseen since the mid-1990s.
I've been meaning for a while to talk about what changed after the inauguration, and why, and what it means to the country going forward. Our observance of the end of the first 100 days seems to be a good time to do that.
The DHS report laid out the history and the current drivers in straight factual terms and made some safe predictions about what might make the situation worse. But the report stopped short of taking the next step.
(Interestingly, the nightmare scenario for most right-wing watchers -- a white-hot backlash in the wake of another major terrorist attack -- appears nowhere in the DHS assessment. Perhaps they didn't want to put ideas into paranoid right-wing heads.)
We need to look at what long experience has taught us about the past escalation patterns of right-wing rhetoric and violence and figure out where we currently stand within those patterns.
We actually know quite a bit about this. Most national agencies tasked with keeping tabs on political and religious extremist groups look for specific signs that help them sort out who's just talking the talk and who's actually getting ready to walk the walk.
The criteria vary from agency to agency; and our collective insights into these patterns changes and deepens every year. But there are some generally accepted principles -- and applying them to the current state of conservatism gives a clearer view what's changed in the past 100 days, what the shift really means and what could be coming next if the right keeps going down this road.
I want to make it clear: The DHS report emphasizes that there's no specific evidence that any particular group is planning any particular action.
At the same time, what's equally clear from the pattern analysis is that the upshift we heard was the right wing going into overdrive -- the speed at which talk about revolution (which has been going on for years, but intensified after 2006) accelerates into concrete preparation for action.
Here's why:
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The far right wing has been laying the groundwork for violent action for decades. Long before they turn dangerous, political and religious groups take their first steps down that road by adopting a worldview that justifies eventual violent action.
The particulars of the narrative vary, but the basic themes are always the same:
First: Their story is apocalyptic, insisting that the end of the world as we've known it is near.
Second: It divides the world into a Good-versus-Evil/Us-versus-Them dualism that encourages the group to interpret even small personal, social or political events as major battles in a Great Cosmic Struggle -- a habit of mind that leads the group to demonize anyone who disagrees with them.
This struggle also encourages members to invest everyday events with huge existential meaning, and as a result sometimes overreact wildly to very mundane stuff.
Third: This split allows for a major retreat from consensus reality and the mainstream culture. The group rejects the idea that it shares a common future with the rest of society, and curls up into its own insular worldview that's impervious to the outside culture's reasoning or facts.
Fourth: Insiders feel like they're a persecuted, prophetic elite who are being opposed by wicked, tyrannical forces. Left to fester, this paranoia will eventually drive the group to make concrete preparations for self-defense -- and perhaps go on the offense against their perceived persecutors.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on May 6, 2009 12:39 AM
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They are going down. That's the good news. Here's the bad news: They're determined to take the rest of the country down with them.
Can you even imagine, given their extremist position, where they would lead us if they had their way - if they had the dictatorial powers they so obviously crave? This much is certain - it ain't about freedom. God help this poor country if the American people are stupid enough to ever place them in power again.
There Goes Arlen
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
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» Bush worship
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» Jim Jones revisited
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» RE: ight Another day; another nail.
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» Ok girls, start cheering!
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» RE: Ok girls, start cheering!
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» RE: "We're no worse than the other guys."
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» RE: ight. . .more of the same far right nonsense
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» RE: ight. . .more of the same far right nonsense
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» RE: ight. . .more of the same far right nonsense
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» RE: ight. . .Bush had two wars and a national disaster in NO.
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» Wrong!
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» This was written over 5 whole pages, added to fear stuff that is pumped out at us day after day....
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» RE: This was written over 5 whole pages, added to fear stuff that is pumped out at us day after day....
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» RE: This was written over 5 whole pages, added to fear stuff that is pumped out at us day after day.
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» Octavia Butler was, perhaps, quite prescient
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Posted by: amyphilo on May 6, 2009 1:28 AM
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Get a freakin' life and stop obsessing over Conservatives! We're all in the same country and do not want to see it go down the tubes so stop fearmongering and arousing hatred for your fellow Americans.
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» RE: Amy Philo..you are taking sides
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» If You're So Offended, Watch the Company You Keep
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» Notice you bring up Hannity as if he represented the masses....
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» ooooooh! the truth hurts doesn't it?
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» Do you have a link proving they did that??? This is serious business....
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» Typical Non-Thinking Response
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» Yes, we're all in the same country. But your side did label US as terrorists many times.
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» So, we should do the same thing??? Two wrongs make a right?
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» RE: Yes, we're all in the same country. But your side did label US as terrorists many times.
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» homo-hatin' liberals
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» RE: Yes, we're all in the same country. But your side did label US as terrorists many times.
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» RE: ROTFL!
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» RE: ROTFLMAO!
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» "Personal Freedoms" means "I pay less taxes" in Neoconese
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» RE: OTFL!
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» you and those that reply to you (on terrorism)
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» Oh, thank you Bingahaba, someone who does research and knows the truth....
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» RE: Amy Philo
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» Your absolutely right, but you didn't go far enough......
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» RE: Amy Philo
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» I guess you think it's OK that rightwingers call for killing
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» If you read the article, it isn't the grass roots of the right calling for killing....
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» From what I have personally seen it is the grassroots calling
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» Well, if it isn't "prophit" the neo-Nazi lying through her rotten teeth again.
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» RE: Well, if it isn't "prophit" the neo-Nazi lying through her rotten teeth again.
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» Well, what do you expect from a "Heritage foundation" troll...lol
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» RE: Labeling Conservatives as 'terrorists', oh my!
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» Censorship??? With threats? "Tone it down, your pissing us off??"?
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» RE: Labeling Conservatives as 'terrorists', oh my!
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» Common "Paid Shill" Trick
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» Oooh, draw out the old racist card if someone doesn't agree with you?
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» RE: Amy Philo
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» This is a very well informed and
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» If the shoe doesn't fit, don't take it personally
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» RE: Amy Philo - Hey, I know you. The obsessed with abortion lady. Shit !
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» RE: Amy Philo/troll
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» RE: left extremists try to fan the fire
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Posted by: Moonray on May 6, 2009 1:53 AM
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No wonder the Republican Party is becoming ever more irrelevant. Let's be glad for that.
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» RE: There's little media money to be made in actual violence
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» Remember, the point is this crap they are feeding them isn't working....
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» That lunatic fringe is the problem
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» That makes 5 times you used the work "kill"... are you obsessed with ....
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Posted by: atheistcable on May 6, 2009 2:41 AM
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"[I]t's very likely that land is already being quietly bought up. . . . "
"[T]he past 100 days have seen record gun sales and nationwide ammo shortages. . . "
"[F]rustration over the economic downturn. . ."
During our economic downturn, where is the money coming from to "quietly" buy up land (I'm taking this as a more-than-likely event), and enough guns and ammo to establish records and cause shortages?
The author is talking about a specific slice of angry people. But there are other specific slices that needed to be discussed: All those people who were arrested for drug dealing, spent years in prison, were then released to find themselves jobless because of the needless drug incarceration in the first place. These are very angry people too.
I can only ask questions and hope someone with more data can provide possible answers:
Are the right-wingers just looking to assassinate the President?
Will there be urban warfare?
What I didn't like about this article is that Sara Robinson doesn't suggest what we can do as citizens about this situation. Whenever you discuss a problem, discuss possible solutions as well.
So, why isn't there a movement in our Democratically-controlled U.S. House to immediately release and pardon all non-violent drug offenders? Why are Schedule One drugs being sold without being taxed by the federal and state governments? Why isn't Congress putting pressure on our politically-moderate President to abolish the Drug Enforcement Agency? Why aren't states allowed to grow hemp? If the drug war isn't working, if the drug war is only capitalizing national and international terror groups, then why do we have a DEA? Why isn't the lazy Left not doing what it needs to do to assassinate this horrible drug war?
My goodness, how long, how long must Drug Prohibition continue?
I say "Lazy Left" because of the California experience. Enough gays thought that Prop 8 wouldn't pass, so there was no need to drop their more important social activities and get political.
The first thing that needs to be done is to hold a series of locally-sponsored public debates on the drug war. The Internet is fine, but citizens need to talk to one another face-to-face. That isn't happening. City councils need to pass Resolutions condemning the drug war, which will be picked up by the local and national news media.
Here in Minnesota, Congressional District 5, Rep. Keith Ellison knows my views about the stupidity of the drug war. But he has blended into the background of Congress and won't budge on the drug issue because he feels comfortable about up-coming re-election next year. And there's no organized effort in this state to abolish the DEA.
Until we take real steps to eliminate Drug Prohibition, Sara Robinson, and others like her, can continue to write similar predictions. And then one day all our dreams will come to pass! We are our own worst enemy.
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» Well said
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» RE: So what do we do about this?
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» RE: So what do we do about this?
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» To answer your question, the purpose of the article isn't to solve anything.....
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» Those are REAL guns they're buying
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» Try controlling your emotions please, it interferes with "seeing"...
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» Hello, Harpy, where are you? No answers to my questions... or links to back up...
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Posted by: Perry Logan on May 6, 2009 2:43 AM
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» RE: I take heart in the fact
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» All Talk? Hope So
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Posted by: RICHARD RALPH ROEHL on May 6, 2009 3:29 AM
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Right? Left? It doesn't matter! Crazy is crazy, the Zionists being the craziest of all!
The real issue, an issue that is NEVER openly discussed in the main-$tream corp-rat owned media, is the interminable gap between the have and the have $nots in Amerika. THIS is the real issue. The biggest tabboo-boo!
As happened with $tar-bucks and Pizza $mut and Taco $mell and McFondle's faster poo food... we predict the franchising of Timothy McVEIGH!
Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad...(off)!
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» RE: Franchising McVeigh
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» Your right, its the ruling elite/class that is the problem... we better...
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Posted by: nitroxscubafreak on May 6, 2009 4:29 AM
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» Yeah, but if you read the responses to it and its lack of solutions...
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Posted by: vioibi on May 6, 2009 5:05 AM
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» RE: To be a valid opposition they have to have an alternative vision
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» We don't have two parties: we have one party with two faces
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» RE: When Bush and gang were in power they totally ignored the opposition
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Posted by: greenferret on May 6, 2009 5:15 AM
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» They had a report on left wing extremists
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» Do you have a link to that report??? I never saw it and would like to.
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» Harpy, still waiting on that link, that is three times now I asked for proof of those outrageous....
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» Have you ever heard of Google, genius?
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» ahahaa, lets see, bankers control gov and WH, They then put out....
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Posted by: scheherezade on May 6, 2009 5:38 AM
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Manipulative demogogue leaders of the sort mentioned here tend to be eminently corruptible -- they're universally socially insecure, sexually anxious; and primarily seek recognition as a playa among the big boys and a nice slice of the pie. Hitler was despised, but also used by, the Prussian aristocracy.
He eventually created and then destroyed his own police force to counter theirs, but today's aristocracy won't make the same mistake. Modern day demogogues (Limbaugh, Robertson, Dobson...Warren) are deferred to and offered a seat at the table. Most importantly, they make big MONEY -- which if push comes to shove, they'll NEVER place themselves in a position to lose. Rich demogogues are by definition not "revolutionary" material. They will be "managed" and turned to good use.
As always, any "threat" modern aristocracy feels from unfocused conservative anger is petty compared to those posed by informed, rational people interested in social justice and real democracy -- and potentially quite useful in countering such liberal ideals.
Childlike authoritarian personalities will ALWAYS defer to power, once their egos are slaked. Liberals are not so accomodating, and thus pose the greater "threat."
Which probably explains why "threatening" treason-spouting idiots continue to get an enormous amount of airtime from people who OWN the airwaves.
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» You are so right, but remember, while these aristocracies are sociopathic, they ....
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Posted by: mwildfire on May 6, 2009 5:44 AM
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I disagree with the previous poster that the extremes are automatically wrong and those in the center naturally right. The centrists have brought us to this point.
But I do want to acknowledge that many of the symptoms listed in this article apply equally to the left, which is severely disappointed in Obama (those that drank his Kool-aid in the first place). I expect they're much less of a threat, though, for three reasons: a hefty percentage are pacifists who have no problem with resisting government but are not willing to do violence to persons; they are not religious and thus not prone to commands from Above that violate logic; and they're fierce individualists unwilling to line up and all march in the same direction.
It's necessary also to consider this: those John Birchers are not altogether wrong. My sister is one, and sends me clips and links all the time--half of which are right on, and the other half some of the craziest shit I've seen. We're living in a world in which our nice centrist president has capitulated to Wall Street, handing them several trillion dollars. We may never recover from that--especially as he is simultaneously feeding the military-industrial complex at even higher rates than his predecessor. He has ratified the assault on the Constitution of his predecessor. Meanwhile, we have the most urgent crisis in history, with climate change and other environmental threats burgeoning and the population still growing. Obama has been better on this issue area but not good enough. My point is that calm acceptance of the status quo is not necessarily the most rational or responsible approach. Government IS our enemy--since it has allied into a seamless whole with United Corporate America and the mass media which functions as the propaganda wing. The current outrages are well beyond those that propelled our ancestors into revolution. It's a shame most of those willing to do something about it are the racist, gun-loving, authoritarians of the Right.
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» RE: the center is always right--
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» He's right
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Posted by: eeuropean2000 on May 6, 2009 5:56 AM
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» YOU DON'T LIKE IT HERE, GO BACK TO EUROPE
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» I'm glad you are old too.
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Posted by: Beck on May 6, 2009 6:00 AM
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"a major retreat from consensus reality and the mainstream culture"?
"a persecuted, prophetic elite who are being opposed by wicked, tyrannical forces"?
"constantly naming and accusing their enemies and insisting on their essential evilness"?
"stories that are just flat-out fabulation, without even so much as a nod to reality"?
"overweening humiliation growing every day that the Democrats and their new president stay in power"???
Okay, I could keep pasting in quotes from the article for quite some time, but I still don't get it. Yeah, maybe the far right is doing this, but all these quotes could describe what has gone on right here for months. Shouldn't ALL of us be careful to avoid becoming what we abhor? Not be guilty of that which we accuse?
And to especially not step right into the opposing role that the far right needs. If they love nothing better than an enemy, deprive them of it. Stop demonizing words like "consensus". Not all the right is Far Right. The very qualities that make Democrats objects of derision are probably the only qualities that can save this polarized, hateful nation.
If these paranoid, divisive qualities connected to the right are wrong and dangerous, everyone needs to pay attention to the warnings, and find better ways to relate to other Americans.
I said I'd stop quoting, but this one is just too appropriate:
"The group rejects the idea that it shares a common future with the rest of society, and curls up into its own insular worldview that's impervious to the outside culture's reasoning or facts."
This thinking isn't just being embraced by the far right. Even if they started it, others can't be a mirror image, justifying their own disconnection by the perceived rightness of their own stance.
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» Excellent Beck, really excellent..... reasoning, rational thinking, unemotional assessment....
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Posted by: Frankenstein Dragon on May 6, 2009 6:01 AM
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And i am not inthe right. my profile is no where near the right. the fact is america is so dumb-down, and so brainwashed, and so unique compared to the rest of the world in their riculous reality that they love to classify reasonable people as insane.
Yes there are some right-wing looneys out there--all of them. But they are right about one thing--the governemnt is a iie. they just think so for clearly absurd reasons. I think most of them are just upset about a black president. BUt these are ignorant people.
Thats why I think this article is just more propaganda--as usual it wantas to paint anybody who sess the government for what it is--evil--and in need of destruction--as crazy or terrorists. The only real terrorists are the government.
They've been tryign to make everyone crazy for years. tahts what right-wing nutty fascists do.
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» I have been a leftie for years and I agree with you...... that is why...
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Posted by: joeocho88 on May 6, 2009 7:08 AM
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Unfortunately, Chaney and Daddy were REALLY running things and didn't know that a Nazi-style gang of IDIOTS would engender more RIDICULE than old-fashioned knock in the door, cuff & stuff, cart em away in an unmarked meat wagon style TERROR that would have done STALIN proud. ( Not that much difference, really, between Hitler & Stalin, they both liked to kill Jews and Roma people).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FixBaPxUFs
These four things are from a paranoid rant.In case you haevn't heard it is ALL the SAME party of elites running things, just different labels. My father, Dad, grandfather and my nieces and nephews and me ALL are veterans. Guess that makes US terrorists.
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» Well, just as soon as history changes...
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» Not calling veterans terrorists, right wing extremists
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» That is what happens when you don't read, Harpy, that is exactly what they did.
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» RE: Brought to You by the Same Idiots Who Say that Patriotic Veterans are TERRORISTS ... yeah, sure
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» How dare you condemn a whole group of soldiers that risked life and limb,
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» What does the "88" stand for? i've read that it's a commonly-used symbol in screen names.
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Posted by: leafsong1 on May 6, 2009 7:13 AM
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» burn em both to the fuckin' ground.
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Posted by: VanWinkle65 on May 6, 2009 7:16 AM
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Online PRivacy when it COunts
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» WANKER ALERT--Don't click on that link (IDENTITY THEFT!)
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» I knew you were here, what name are you posting under, Harpy???
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» So, illiterate right-wing nut, when will you learn the difference between "your" and "you're"?
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Posted by: cmic on May 6, 2009 7:33 AM
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Mostly they had already been got. The banksters have already robbed and pillaged all of us. Since 1980 they have stole our rights, our jobs, our economic security, switched our pensions for 401ks, then they stole all the 401k money, now they want the wealth in our homes. On top of that they want us to bail them out with tax payer money and we did. They are right that people are out to get them, they are just confused about who those people are.
They listen to the voices of the master (Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Beck) who's job is to divide the great beast, oi polloi or whatever they are calling the "people" these days. On behalf of the corporations these voices redirect the anger towards minorities, immigrants, gays, Liberals, Communists etc. The old divide and rule. Never gets old.
The corporations would like to see things stay in the middle so they can continue to rule with little effort. The problem is if the "Left" gains ground and begin to fight against embedded corporate power and actually succeed with serious reforms such as health care, Employees Free Choice Act etc. I would think these modest reforms would not set things off. But larger more serious reforms such as revoking corporate person hood to name one could provoke corporations to wield the power of the extreme right. This is of course last resort because they know they can not control these groups 100%. Just like they used the Christian right in the elections. Corporatist Republicans lost large chunks of the country to radical Christian candidates. They lost control of their monster.
Nothing new here. We will see if these groups are all talk or if they are serious. They should be taken seriously because in the right hands things could get ugly. Tim McVeigh enough said.
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 6, 2009 8:35 AM
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» RE: A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION
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Posted by: willymack on May 6, 2009 9:14 AM
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» They're trying to steal the next election in Tennessee
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» Link please... thanks Guitar Bill, it helps to have documentation...
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» Typical lying neo-Nazi. Always accuse others of the crimes that you've committed.
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» Sheez, make up my mind, Is it Harpy or Guitar Bill???? What? no company today to come up behind ya.
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Posted by: greatdanes on May 6, 2009 9:18 AM
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The Republicans or any voters for Bush last time around have Opened their Eyes to the GAME being played on the Citizens. We have No Loyality to a Party anymore and we SEE they are both "One & the Same" ! EVIL and Not to be Followed any more !!! We are ahead of you because of Bush . You have Obama and are following Blindly , just as we did with Bush. I understand and it's Okay .
In a matter of Months when you see where this Country is Headed ......You'll be on the Same side as us & on the List of Terrorists . Both Parties PASS out the "cool aid" and tell voters to drink and believe......Until the Cup runs Dry.
PUT Down the CUP and Let Your Eyes OPEN to SEE what is Right in Front of your face.
WHY do you think the Republican Party is disintegrating and have No Members left....the people are Awake and .....
The Game they have been Playing is coming to an END.
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Posted by: PaulK on May 6, 2009 9:24 AM
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I would pay to see 1000 millionaires run down to a housing project, break a few windows, flip over a car and throw rocks at a line of police. However, it's far more likely that they will all rent funny, high quality costumes, indulge in hyperbole that they'll never try themselves, and stand around for media photogs.
The Christians, even the worst Fundie cults, need to convince themselves to throw vitriol in a child's face, and somehow Jesus Himself approves of attacks on a bunch of innocent little kids. If Jesus has happened to say the exact opposite, then the cults have a moral issue. The next Tim McVeigh and friends need to think about the day care center in the building they're bombing.
I do worry about an assassination attempt on President Obama for racism reasons.
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Posted by: Lilly on May 6, 2009 10:37 AM
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It's interesting that the tone of craziness has shifted since the election---before, the rhetoric was often religion-based; we heard that he was going to deliver us up to the Muslims or call in an air strike right after being sworn in, or else that he would operationalize Black Liberation Theology and have his black thugs invade our homes and brutalize us. Now, it's more often a kind of psychotic distortion of his policies.
Perhaps the most frightening is the lesson being taught by some Rightist media personalities that violent reaction to Obama = patriotism eg Glenn Beck rants about the need to save America from Obama while in the background he rolls footage of the Nazi army marching in Germany under the swastika. The issue of gun rights is never far away, and townhall posters speaking of being "locked & loaded", of stockpiling hundreds of rounds of ammunition, and of being "ready for them when they come".
I will say one thing: townhall.com (a site developed by The Heritage Foundation though it's now run by others) is a well-run site where the administrators have graciously allowed me to post my dissenting liberal rants. They are not quick to ban liberals, as some rightist sites are. Do not fear to post there. And it's a very, very interesting place to go and play, assuming you don't mind playing in traffic.
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» You just made my point, the heritage foundation is not funded by the grassroots right.
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Posted by: DaBear on May 6, 2009 11:02 AM
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Posted by: Juven on May 6, 2009 1:48 PM
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Bush made things worse-- now you can be called a terrorist and stripped of all rights-- is that what the "left" wants? Fellow Americans who are not happy to be labeled terrorists? (remember the Patriot Act?)
If this is the case, we are in for some hard times and eventually the left may find itself alone facing an enemy it had not realized was in its midst: a state that will not put up with any dissent. The left runs on dissent--
What happens when you too can no longer protest under the threat of being a terrorist?
Or is this the agenda? Everyone linking arms happily into the future with our thoughts and opinions regulated by a government agency?
This can not be America.
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Posted by: timenotonmyside on May 6, 2009 1:58 PM
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Sara's right about the extreme right - they are getting ready - but for what I'm not sure.
Our Congress has their collective heads up their asses because they are beholding to corporate america not Americans.
We have a really big disconnect in this country.
Too many people think that they can ''blog all the country's problems away''.
I just don't think that's the case this time around.
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Posted by: GuitarBill on May 6, 2009 2:30 PM
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After all, the Department of Homeland Security issued three reports on Left-wing extremism concerning broad-based cyber attacks, disruption of the Republican National Convention and environmental and animal rights activists, which I've included below:
[1] Department of Homeland Security: Left-wing Extremists Likely to Increase Use of Cyber Attacks Over the Coming Decade, dated 26 January 2009;
[2] DHS: Plans to Target Transportation Infrastructure Surrounding Republican National Convention, dated 27 March 2008;
[3] DHS: Ecoterrorism: Environmental and Animal-Rights Militants in the United States, dated 7 May 2008.
So, why all the whining, howling and crying from the nattering nabob's of the far right?
%^)
Conspiranoid Theories and Far-Right Disinformation.
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Posted by: Quist on May 6, 2009 3:30 PM
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BTW, to just blame a politician or political party is being very shortsighted and myopic. To paraphrase George Carlin, "Maybe it is not just most of the politicians that suck, but most of the public. Garbage in...Garbage out."
Seeing all the greedy idiots, apathetic drones, ignorant ideologues, and indoctrinated zombies in this country makes me realize that I do not want to be part of a government controlled by the people...at least a fair amount of the people in America presently. It really is tough to be a free-minded, aware, realistic, empathetic, rational, logical, responsible, and reasonable independent in this land of idiocracy and foolishness.
We do not just need a better government, but we need a better society. Only PEOPLE can change our government, economy, culture, and society. The thing is, people in the U.S. cannot agree on the most reasonable, logical, sensible, rational and empathetic solutions to help make our society a better society. I have but a hope...and have not totally given up yet...but PEOPLE really need to get their shit together.
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» C'mon, have a beer and a couple of sausage burritos or stuff a pie in your face ! OOOOOOOO ! LOL !!
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Posted by: Ranjit Kumar on May 6, 2009 4:43 PM
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Posted by: rojelio271 on May 6, 2009 5:25 PM
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I might ask does the "Campaign for America" subscribe to the same realm of philosphy as the above mentioned dictators who were horrible brutal murders, they answer is YES Campaign for America is collectivist. Furthermore what possibly could "Cognitive Policy Works" be doing ? If we look at their website we see the below.
"Cognitive Policy Works is an educational center and consulting service that provides strategic guidance to the progressive world. Our cognitive approach offers sound methodologies, informed by cutting-edge science, to help you understand the ways people think and feel about the issues and how those perspectives influence their behavior."
So this is yet another wash to demonize anyone who holds to anything individualistic falsely calling it a "selfish" and "greedy" ideology, only worse now labeling individuals as terrorist or extremists.
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Posted by: Myboygage on May 7, 2009 6:55 AM
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Posted by: rafaeltoral on May 7, 2009 7:35 AM
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there are one and the same.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on May 7, 2009 9:18 AM
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We on the left can not be as hardline and incompromising as the Right has been for the last few decades.
Let's talk about the Right to responsible Gun ownership. Let's talk about wanting to end the use of Abortions (education& birth control) and Personal responsiblity. Let's Talk about the undefinable realm of God. Let's Talk about our own fears about 'End of days'....
The more we remain staunch immoveable in our philosophy the more they Right digs it's heels in and the further they stick their heads in the sand.
We too have allowed the devisiviness of politics to obscure our image and theirs. When Politics creates this facade of US & Them, they win and we all lose.
this is the reason Obama Won- he spoke to all of US discussing the numerous areas of common ground. We have let the fanatism of both fringe Left & Right Define US. Far left Screams and the Far right Screams Back, and the rest of US get caught in the cross fire- ENOUGH!!!
I'm not against guns,but for Respsonsible ownership.Nor am I an abortion advocate- but a supporter of both choice and reproductive responsibility. I have faith,but I'm not associated with any particular religion. I'm all for Going Green, but am not willing to go back to living in the pre industrial times. I'm all for equal rights but I'm not interested in splitting hairs on Marriage vs Unions. I am a huge animal lover- but I still eat meat.
I think the majority of Americans are just as 'Grey' as me, so until we prove this to both Fringes, they will be the ones who continue to control the conversation and innaccurately define US.
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Posted by: Hitchhicker101 on May 7, 2009 9:37 AM
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When the political process fails to represent the interests and wishes of the working class it is at this point a percentage will seek extreme alternatives. At what point during the campaign did Obama address the concerns of this sizable constituency. Many times he talked of middle class interests but never once did he mention working class problems or solutions. While at the same time the Right pandered to their fears using typically fascist language and metaphor.
If the political system in the U.S is going to combat this scum then it needs to start representing the interests of the working class. To pay lip service without concrete policy is to fall foul like the govt. in Germany pre 1929. Here in Britain, the rise of the BNP can be attributed to the failure of The Labour Party to address the needs of it's core voters. For too long it has taken these votes for granted as no other party in the political sphere represented their interests. Isn't it time the Democratic Party started to address the issues and seek policy solutions for the working class? Failure to do so will only drive them further into the margins.
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Posted by: Parazel on May 8, 2009 2:33 PM
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The APA, which publishes the DSM, defines sexual orientation as:
"...an enduring emotional, romantic, sexual, or affectional attraction toward others ... Sexual orientation exists along a continuum that ranges from exclusive heterosexuality to exclusive homosexuality and includes various forms of bisexuality. ... Sexual orientation is different from sexual behavior because it refers to feelings and self-concept."
What Liberty Counsel and other organizations appear to not understand is that sexual orientation and paraphilias are not the same. So what is a paraphilia, anyway?
The DSM-IV-TR defines the "essential features" of paraphilias as:
"recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors generally involving 1) nonhuman objects, 2) the suffering or humiliation of oneself or one's partner, or 3) children or other nonconsenting persons that occur over a period of at least 6 months."
Sounds a tad bit different from the definition of "sexual orientation", doesn't it?
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Posted by: troy on May 9, 2009 7:14 AM
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Fixation on far-right boogey-men distracts from mainstream, largescale corruption of our polical process and constitutional laws perpetrated by Democrats as well as Republicans.
Come on AlterNet editors, lets keep our eye on the ball!
TRC
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Posted by: luzmejor on May 9, 2009 10:28 PM
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Like the writer said, they are generating their own nightmares and forcing us to live within them too.
It's long past time to give them a reality check along with plenty of anti-psychotics. Just tell them their ideas are crazy and they need professional help.
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Posted by: konawriter on May 9, 2009 10:40 PM
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Posted by: mnstra on May 10, 2009 7:36 AM
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Except for some up county compounds. The banks have taken all their wealth anyway with the help of the govt.
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Posted by: lanerdion on May 10, 2009 9:11 AM
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Posted by: dr. Lou on May 10, 2009 1:11 PM
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thanks for your blog or whatever it is called.
Just a short reminder. Any mention by the
Home Security bunch or whatever they're called about crazies running around is just baloney.
Please remember, the 911 horror was not a terrorist attack it was a decision to build a
powerful consensus for Dumbya Bush to be able
to tear our rights away from us pronto. And it
worked. He and his brother Melvin, and countless others in whatever groups whether the skull and bones or the Federal Reserve simply
staged the horror of 911. Melvin had bombs planted on the towers and radio controlledl planes ran into them. No aircraft were hijacked and none crashed at Shanksville and none crashed at the Pentagon. So there is nothing to
worry about. The terrorists have all they can do to keep the Taliban and Iranians happy at
screwing around with the world. So the whole idea of being afraid of "another" terrorist attack is silly since the first one DID NOT EVEN HAPPEN. If you recall, even Osama Bin Laden immediately stated after 911 tha HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. However, the CIA or whoever it was immediately went over and told him to shut his big mouth and they created a phony video of him admitting he did it! Duh!!
So PLEASE, let's forget all about a new shocking terrorist attack!!
sincerely Dr. Nathan Louis
for a copy of "911 TRUTHFUL LIES" Write Dr. Louis at po box 124 bloomington ca 92316.
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Posted by: lindalee on May 13, 2009 10:14 AM
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Posted by: Ligeia on May 19, 2009 9:55 PM
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"Job Title:
Fellow, Campaign for America's Future
Website:
Orcinus
Favorite Quote:
All the free men are dead or still fighting.
-- Geronimo
Sara Robinson is one of the few trained social futurists in North America, and will complete her MS in Futures Studies from the University of Houston in 2009. Her skill set includes trend analysis, scenario development, futures research, social change theories, systems thinking, and strategic planning. She holds a BA in Journalism from the USC Annenberg School of Communication, and has worked as a columnist or editor for several national magazines."
System Thinking is right.
This piece is a classic example of what I like to call an Academic Puff. Robinson has taken one simple sentence "Right-wingers might react" and skillfully puffed it into a composition of literally hundreds of words without adding one concrete fact or interesting idea.
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Posted by: Ligeia on May 19, 2009 10:02 PM
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Some people think that the CIA did the OK City Bombing, but even if you believe that Timothy McVeigh was at fault, there was no significant wave of domestic terrorism during the 90s. One crime does not a wave make.
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Posted by: Ligeia on May 19, 2009 10:29 PM
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Fox News, Limbaugh, Beck? How are these System Politicos going to upset the Zionist New World Order? They, and those like them (ex. Palin) are in fact Trotsky-ite: They believe that Israel should rule the entire world, and that the American tax payer should bankroll Israel, even funding unnecessary wars that cost more than $1 Billion per day during a major economic crisis; they believe that "diversity is our greatest strength," and oppose any American political movement which would limit the extravagant entitlement packages doled out even to illegal aliens; they believe that Affirmative Action is a successful government program, and that it should be continued indefinitely; they believe that abortion on demand and gay marriage should be forced on every state, even though the people don't agree; they claim also to believe in the Holocaust, and that Jews should be allowed stipends as victims' comp (never mind that we Americans actually fought against Germany in WW2; the more senseless the argument, the more governmental).
The "GOP" and the Democrats are the exact same.
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