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Why Do Conservatives Like Stephen Colbert?
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So ... Stephen Colbert doesn't really mean all those wacky liberal-bashing things he says, does he? Comedy Central's The Colbert Report is obviously a parody of a wing-nut right-wing talk show. Right?
Or ... is it? (Cut to devilishly quizzical chin-grabbing stare.)
He can't be serious.
Or ... can he sort of be? (Cut to screeching bald eagle.)
Well, apparently Colbert is just that good. His character is so pitch-perfectly ambiguous that, according to a new study, what it is you see in him is whatever it is you want to see in him. If you are liberal, he is a liberal, too. If you are a conservative, he is a conservative, just like you.
And if you are a bear, well, good luck.
Colbert is, it would appear, a fun-house mirror to the deepest recesses of your political soul.
In order to test this scientifically, Heather L. LaMarre, along with Kristen D. Landreville and Michael A. Beam (all communications doctoral students at The Ohio State University), subjected 322 participants with a mix of political ideologies to a three-minute 2006 video clip of Stephen Colbert discussing media coverage of the Iraq war with "super liberal lefty" radio host Amy Goodman.
They then asked participants to evaluate Colbert's ideology and his attitude towards liberalism. What they found was that the more liberal participants reported their own ideology to be, the more liberal they thought Colbert was. And the more conservative they reported their own ideology to be, the more conservative they thought Colbert was. Both, however, found him equally funny. The results are published in the April edition of the International Journal of Press/Politics.
"Liberals will see him as an over-the-top satire of Bill O'Reilly-type pundit and think that he is making fun of a conservative pundit," LaMarre explained. "But conservatives will say, yes, he is an over-the-top satire of Bill O'Reilly, but by being funny he gets to make really good points and make fun of liberals. So they think the joke is on liberals."
How can this be? Are they really both watching the same Stephen Colbert? Actually, the reason is pretty simple. It is a phenomenon that has been familiar to social psychologists for a long time: confirmation bias. "When you look at social psychology and you see how people process information, people see what they want to see," said study co-author Landreville. "They take whatever they want out of that message. So if I'm a liberal, I'll have my liberal goggles on when I'm watching The Colbert Report and I'll think he's a liberal."
Confirmation bias is likely to be especially pronounced in satire because one of the things about satire — especially the deadpan, bald-eagle satire of Colbert — is that it is chock-full of ambiguity and uncertainty. This leaves lots of opportunities for a viewer to fill in the blanks — a kind of choose-your-own-truthiness, if you will.
"The nature of satire, when you boil it down, is that messages are to varying degrees implied messages," explained Lance Holbert, a professor of communications at The Ohio State University who studies the intersection of entertainment and politics. "It requires the audience to fill in the gap, to get the joke. And it requires a certain bit of knowledge to fill in the gap. ... Certain types of humor are much more explicit. In satire the humor is very complex."
LaMarre got interested in the question of how audiences interpret Colbert back in 2007, when she started puzzling over how several appearances by Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee had seemingly helped to jump-start Huckabee's campaign from out of nowhere. Was it a joke? Or what?
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Posted by: Whittey on Apr 23, 2009 1:15 AM
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Incidentally, it was the pinnacle of political humor I can remember viewing in my lifetime!
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Posted by: Kate_24 on Apr 23, 2009 1:36 AM
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I find that often people with a conservative view of the world are less able to laugh about themselves. (And that, for me, is a prerequisite for irony and satire. At least I can't think of a comedian who's not able to make fun of him- or herself. Nor can I think of an actually Conservative comedian. Not voluntarily at least. ;-) )
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Posted by: Aureantes on Apr 23, 2009 1:39 AM
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It ain't just a general psychological effect -- the conservatives really are seeing less, and seeing only what they're capable and desirous of seeing in so convincing a charade.
As for Colbert...I can read his real political sympathies between the lines, but he's a satirist first and foremost -- and whoever has hypocrisies to highlight and mock is always fair game, regardless of their political affiliation.
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Posted by: orwellturns on Apr 23, 2009 1:58 AM
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As someone mentioned above, the Correspondent's dinner bit he did should have given them a clue. BRILLIANT!!
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Posted by: vision on Apr 23, 2009 2:53 AM
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That said, a friend's father who is hard core conservative loves the show, or at least did a couple years ago. I think there's probably something to what folks have been saying about conservatives having less of a sense of humor around satire and hyperbole. At some point -- particularly in the whole universities-are-liberally-biased discussion -- we have raise the question: are conservatives just dumber, less informed and/or more brainwashed?
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Apr 23, 2009 2:58 AM
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Some of the best satire tends to be morally and politically ambiguous. As soon as it takes itself too seriously, it loses its edge. The Python gang and Seinfeld seemed to understand this. Hopefully Colbert does too.
Although...a play on the "very special episode" might be a funny sketch for him...Or has he done that already?
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Posted by: parrotuya on Apr 23, 2009 4:06 AM
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So laugh with Colbert. He is on our side! The joke's on them!
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Posted by: ScoobyDoobyDoo on Apr 23, 2009 4:19 AM
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On the other hand, I do find that it is mostly people with limited understanding, imagination, intelligence and perception that are the most rabid conservatives who cannot even entertain an opposing view point. Very likely that most of these probably don't even get satire.
And if they weren't so dull and managed to 'get it'... most likely then they just wouldn't be conservatives. :^)
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Posted by: peacelf on Apr 23, 2009 4:22 AM
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The right wingers are literalists, but that is not to say that Colbert and his producers don't understand the mirror phenomenon and milk the ratings for ad dollars. Ultimately, the joke may be on all of us.
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—Unknown
We have to remember that what we observe is not nature in itself but nature exposed to our method of questioning.
—Werner Heisenberg
All great truths begin as blasphemies.
— George Bernard Shaw
The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.
— Archibald MacLeish
It is proof of a base and low mind for one to wish to think with the masses or majority, merely because the majority is the majority. Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people.
— Giordano Bruno
Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion.
— Democritus of Abdera
Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assaults of thoughts on the unthinking.
— John Maynard Keynes
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity...and I'm not sure about the universe.
— Albert Einstein
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Posted by: compaq151fs on Apr 23, 2009 7:04 AM
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I am typing this slowly so you can understand.
I know Colbert is a satirist.
I know he's not conservative.
I like him BECAUSE HE'S FUNNY.
And I have an open mind.
Do you?
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Posted by: BlueRooster on Apr 23, 2009 7:06 AM
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Colbert also talks about the first time he met O'Reilly and Bush's reaction to the correspondence dinner speech.
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Posted by: Higher Reptile on Apr 23, 2009 7:09 AM
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Posted by: linderc on Apr 23, 2009 7:13 AM
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In closing, ask yourself whether or not Steven Colbert wouldn’t have been awesome to hang out with in high school. That should answer the question as to his political ideology.
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Posted by: misterstuf on Apr 23, 2009 7:18 AM
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A shame. He was good. Jon Stewart is getting better and Stephen is getting turned off.
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Posted by: madmac10 on Apr 23, 2009 7:41 AM
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I wonder how I could've survived the usurpation of democracy if it hadn't been for this genius. Thanks to this man's brilliant mind (not to mention extraordinary cadre of writers and graphic artists,) I have managed to keep my sanity somewhat, and to get a little news in the bargain.
Thank you Sir Dr. Stephen Colbert! May God bless you with immortality!
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Apr 23, 2009 7:47 AM
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It's the same way with most folks who focus their attention on whatever pet -ism they are most devout about.
If all you're really interested in looking for is _________, then don't be surprised to find it in relative abundance. Dress it up with catch phrases--i.e. "institutionalized -ism", "enculturated -ism", yada, yada--and you've got the makings of a nice propaganda piece and perhaps a dissertation, if you're of the social so-called sciences persuasion.
Additionally, there are entire cottage industries and major operations devoted to advance/oppose pet -isms. Yes indeed--some folks make a living from exploiting theirs and others biases, "confirmed" or not.
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Posted by: revjmike on Apr 23, 2009 7:52 AM
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I know it is a rhetorical question; but my guess would be it is because they don't get the fact they are being mocked.
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Posted by: Jfutures on Apr 23, 2009 7:57 AM
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He was especially annoying, because just before that, the premiere interviewer, Jon Stewart, had a wonderful talk with Anwar Sadat's widow.
Quite a startling contrast.
John
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Posted by: helenwheels on Apr 23, 2009 8:35 AM
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That tells me all I need to know.
I've noticed that the rightwingers in general (I'm sure there are exceptions) don't seem to understand parody, satire, pun, and many other types of humor.
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Posted by: Sketch3600 on Apr 23, 2009 9:02 AM
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Posted by: harlan8 on Apr 23, 2009 9:31 AM
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His self-agrandizement and attacks on the left, even tho slightly satirical, totally turns me off. This is a shame, as I think he could be brilliant. I do not think he makes it clear enough that he is poking fun at the right when he pokes fun at the left.
I think this study quantifies the obvious.
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Posted by: Thaddeus Horne on Apr 23, 2009 9:41 AM
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It's true. Intelligent people tend to have a more sophisticated sense of humor; a broader spectrum of what tickles your funny bone, if you will.
This doesn't mean conservatives don't have a sense of humor- it's that their funny bone goes off more towards slapstick and prat falls. They don't get the humor of say- Jonathon Swift. Hell, they probably wouldn't even crack the book.
Bottom line-it isn't about the funny in your bone,it's about the depth of your perception. The wider your perceptions, the funnier you will find the world to be.
Conservatives?- The Three Stooges.
Liberals?-Lenny Bruce
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Posted by: willymack on Apr 23, 2009 10:16 AM
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Consider the preacher, respledent in his clerical garb, standing at an elevated podium, the better to look down his nose at his "flock". Same psychological process as those snotty mansions on hills. Now, look at the "conservative" politician, resplendent in his three thousand dollar suit (compliments of his neocon backers) on an elevated soapbox, the better to look down his nose at his flock.
They're both NEVER wrong, but ALWAYS right.
They're both above any scrutiny or criticism.
They would have their followers believe they're somehow superbeings with godlike status.
Their blathers are aimed at emotional responses, rather than reasoned opinions or arguments. The more noise, the better.
They're BOTH drunk on power and self-aggrandisment.
They BOTH receive payment, one from his followers, and the other from his puppet-masters.
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Posted by: ATH on Apr 23, 2009 10:46 AM
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Colbert is too subtle for them. They are generally loud, rude, hard-headed, heavily opinionated people, and they just aren't smart enough to figure it out. Of course, not all of them are so blind, but they all share a rigid philosophy.
Unfortunately, the Democrats aren't much better, and Obama is totally owned by the FED and Wall Street private bankers, the ultimate villians, who are destroying our dollar and looting the wealth of this nation, and undermining its sovereignty with laws like NAFTA, which has a section called Chapter 11 in which private, international arbiters can, as part of a suit against the U.S. government (and they can sue without permission, which is another attack on our sovereignty..anyone else has to get the government's permission to sue!) can overturn Supreme Court decisions! Look it up! If you can find it. I saw it discussed on Bill Moyer's Journal, I believe it was. If the FED doesn't stop creating trillions of dollars outof thin air, the dollar will be destroyed, if it's not alreay too late. We won't know until that money enters circulation.
It's very, very sad, whatwe have become.
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Posted by: Dmactds on Apr 23, 2009 11:06 AM
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Regards,
Cyrano
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Posted by: halrivers on Apr 23, 2009 11:08 AM
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On reviewing the clip, I see that he did let her speak more than folks he treats gentler.
A couple nights ago, Colbert seemed to be a little hard on Eduard Galeono, author of Open Veins of Latin America, but then did a puff piece on Swedish socialism.
Perhaps he just does not like to be pinned down, but I do think is quite shy of being a revolutionary.
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Posted by: canary131 on Apr 23, 2009 11:32 AM
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I understand that conservatives might believe that torture is justified (cause they're evil) but Colbert does not.
Colbert is brilliant (not evil) and NOT stupid enough to go on TV promoting torture. Either you get that he's JOKING or you believe it's OK to torture.
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Posted by: mozartsister on Apr 23, 2009 11:40 AM
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Even without that, it's clear which side he's really on.
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Posted by: Reality Chick on Apr 23, 2009 12:09 PM
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Tools. Don't even know when they are being laughed at.
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Posted by: jrmart on Apr 23, 2009 1:13 PM
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That is soooo scary.
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Posted by: AlwaysAskWhy on Apr 23, 2009 1:57 PM
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All ANY human being needs to have heard, watched or read was Colbert humiliating George Bush to his face at the Correspondents Dinner, and have seen the LOOK ON BUSH'S FACE, to know where Colbert stands: against EVERY STUPID THING the right wing stands for.
GOOD FOR COLBERT! MAKING MONEY FROM RIGHT WING DUMMIES! (oh, don't tell them, though)
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Posted by: hedgewytch on Apr 23, 2009 4:01 PM
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I don't think there's anything ambiguous about Colbert's political comedy. The correspondents dinner at the White House was proof enough of that. If the wing-nuts are blind enough to think Colbert shares their ideology, its proof that they deserve to be ridiculed to their faces.
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Posted by: anok on Apr 23, 2009 4:54 PM
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If anyone is fooled into believing he isn't making fun of you (and everyone else) a little bit, then you're a well.. fool.
That doesn't make him any less funny, and it doesn't mean his observations are incorrect - in fact, like Stewart as well - the fact that no party is spared means they probably see things a bit clearer than everyone else.
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Posted by: cplot on Apr 23, 2009 5:44 PM
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A more troubling issue is how much this excellent comedy can be used to deflect genuine activism. In the bleak times of Bush/Cheney and now Obama/Biden, it is too easy to rely on the satire as a catharsis – inhibiting public action. That's not anything against Colbert nor Stewart either, but it is a concern that we can't let this hour or so of TV stop us from public action: instead harnessing it to fuel public action.
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Posted by: Blacktiger1 on Apr 23, 2009 6:31 PM
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Posted by: BCcovers on Apr 24, 2009 10:07 AM
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On the one hand you claim that conservatives are bigots, racists, idiots, and barbarians. You name call, pigeon-hole and discriminate against an entire group of people who you simply don't agree with on a few issues. So you call them idiots, and not just a few, named individuals, but all conservatives collectively.
It seems to me that there might be a few more bigoted, prejudiced people in your midst than you'd like to think. What's the difference between saying that Blacks are all idtiots from making the statement that conservatives are all idiots. They are both blanket statements reinforced by an individual's prejudices and ignorance.
Why can't some of you accept that his comedy trandscends poltical lines and celebrate that we can all enjoy his show as Americans, no matter what side of the poltical fence we lie on. In the end, let's just ignore the bigots (some of the posters above) and laugh at the guy, that's why he's on TV.
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Posted by: yesman on Apr 24, 2009 5:09 PM
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Posted by: Hans B on Apr 24, 2009 6:35 PM
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Could that be it? I mean, could there for once be a positive explanation for human behavior?
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Posted by: Koondog on Apr 24, 2009 9:17 PM
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Posted by: dkm on Apr 24, 2009 10:21 PM
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As one person has mentioned, ideologues often lack the mental agility to recognize the twistedness that is necessary for humor and satire. Since the rightwing tends more toward ideology (reality has a liberal bias after all), they are less likely to catch the point.
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Posted by: YogiBear on Apr 24, 2009 11:48 PM
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He could tell you that his Dilbert was enormously popular with bad bosses the world 'round. They're all so egocentric they beleive he's making fun of all those other guys. Even dittoheads want to think they're indiviudals, rising above the herd.
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Posted by: TruthBeTold on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM
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See?
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Posted by: thealou on May 12, 2009 8:10 AM
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Maybe it's a good thing that conservatives watch the show. Some of them might just get their minds opened a bit.
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Posted by: Whittey on Apr 23, 2009 1:15 AM
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Incidentally, it was the pinnacle of political humor I can remember viewing in my lifetime!
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Posted by: Kate_24 on Apr 23, 2009 1:36 AM
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I find that often people with a conservative view of the world are less able to laugh about themselves. (And that, for me, is a prerequisite for irony and satire. At least I can't think of a comedian who's not able to make fun of him- or herself. Nor can I think of an actually Conservative comedian. Not voluntarily at least. ;-) )
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Posted by: Aureantes on Apr 23, 2009 1:39 AM
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It ain't just a general psychological effect -- the conservatives really are seeing less, and seeing only what they're capable and desirous of seeing in so convincing a charade.
As for Colbert...I can read his real political sympathies between the lines, but he's a satirist first and foremost -- and whoever has hypocrisies to highlight and mock is always fair game, regardless of their political affiliation.
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Posted by: orwellturns on Apr 23, 2009 1:58 AM
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As someone mentioned above, the Correspondent's dinner bit he did should have given them a clue. BRILLIANT!!
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Posted by: vision on Apr 23, 2009 2:53 AM
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That said, a friend's father who is hard core conservative loves the show, or at least did a couple years ago. I think there's probably something to what folks have been saying about conservatives having less of a sense of humor around satire and hyperbole. At some point -- particularly in the whole universities-are-liberally-biased discussion -- we have raise the question: are conservatives just dumber, less informed and/or more brainwashed?
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Apr 23, 2009 2:58 AM
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Some of the best satire tends to be morally and politically ambiguous. As soon as it takes itself too seriously, it loses its edge. The Python gang and Seinfeld seemed to understand this. Hopefully Colbert does too.
Although...a play on the "very special episode" might be a funny sketch for him...Or has he done that already?
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Posted by: parrotuya on Apr 23, 2009 4:06 AM
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So laugh with Colbert. He is on our side! The joke's on them!
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Posted by: ScoobyDoobyDoo on Apr 23, 2009 4:19 AM
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On the other hand, I do find that it is mostly people with limited understanding, imagination, intelligence and perception that are the most rabid conservatives who cannot even entertain an opposing view point. Very likely that most of these probably don't even get satire.
And if they weren't so dull and managed to 'get it'... most likely then they just wouldn't be conservatives. :^)
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Posted by: peacelf on Apr 23, 2009 4:22 AM
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The right wingers are literalists, but that is not to say that Colbert and his producers don't understand the mirror phenomenon and milk the ratings for ad dollars. Ultimately, the joke may be on all of us.
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—Unknown
We have to remember that what we observe is not nature in itself but nature exposed to our method of questioning.
—Werner Heisenberg
All great truths begin as blasphemies.
— George Bernard Shaw
The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.
— Archibald MacLeish
It is proof of a base and low mind for one to wish to think with the masses or majority, merely because the majority is the majority. Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people.
— Giordano Bruno
Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion.
— Democritus of Abdera
Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assaults of thoughts on the unthinking.
— John Maynard Keynes
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity...and I'm not sure about the universe.
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Posted by: compaq151fs on Apr 23, 2009 7:04 AM
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I am typing this slowly so you can understand.
I know Colbert is a satirist.
I know he's not conservative.
I like him BECAUSE HE'S FUNNY.
And I have an open mind.
Do you?
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Posted by: BlueRooster on Apr 23, 2009 7:06 AM
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Colbert also talks about the first time he met O'Reilly and Bush's reaction to the correspondence dinner speech.
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Posted by: Higher Reptile on Apr 23, 2009 7:09 AM
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Posted by: linderc on Apr 23, 2009 7:13 AM
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In closing, ask yourself whether or not Steven Colbert wouldn’t have been awesome to hang out with in high school. That should answer the question as to his political ideology.
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Posted by: misterstuf on Apr 23, 2009 7:18 AM
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A shame. He was good. Jon Stewart is getting better and Stephen is getting turned off.
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Posted by: madmac10 on Apr 23, 2009 7:41 AM
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I wonder how I could've survived the usurpation of democracy if it hadn't been for this genius. Thanks to this man's brilliant mind (not to mention extraordinary cadre of writers and graphic artists,) I have managed to keep my sanity somewhat, and to get a little news in the bargain.
Thank you Sir Dr. Stephen Colbert! May God bless you with immortality!
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Apr 23, 2009 7:47 AM
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It's the same way with most folks who focus their attention on whatever pet -ism they are most devout about.
If all you're really interested in looking for is _________, then don't be surprised to find it in relative abundance. Dress it up with catch phrases--i.e. "institutionalized -ism", "enculturated -ism", yada, yada--and you've got the makings of a nice propaganda piece and perhaps a dissertation, if you're of the social so-called sciences persuasion.
Additionally, there are entire cottage industries and major operations devoted to advance/oppose pet -isms. Yes indeed--some folks make a living from exploiting theirs and others biases, "confirmed" or not.
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Posted by: revjmike on Apr 23, 2009 7:52 AM
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I know it is a rhetorical question; but my guess would be it is because they don't get the fact they are being mocked.
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Posted by: Jfutures on Apr 23, 2009 7:57 AM
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He was especially annoying, because just before that, the premiere interviewer, Jon Stewart, had a wonderful talk with Anwar Sadat's widow.
Quite a startling contrast.
John
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Posted by: helenwheels on Apr 23, 2009 8:35 AM
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That tells me all I need to know.
I've noticed that the rightwingers in general (I'm sure there are exceptions) don't seem to understand parody, satire, pun, and many other types of humor.
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Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Apr 23, 2009 9:13 AM
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Posted by: harlan8 on Apr 23, 2009 9:31 AM
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His self-agrandizement and attacks on the left, even tho slightly satirical, totally turns me off. This is a shame, as I think he could be brilliant. I do not think he makes it clear enough that he is poking fun at the right when he pokes fun at the left.
I think this study quantifies the obvious.
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Posted by: Thaddeus Horne on Apr 23, 2009 9:41 AM
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It's true. Intelligent people tend to have a more sophisticated sense of humor; a broader spectrum of what tickles your funny bone, if you will.
This doesn't mean conservatives don't have a sense of humor- it's that their funny bone goes off more towards slapstick and prat falls. They don't get the humor of say- Jonathon Swift. Hell, they probably wouldn't even crack the book.
Bottom line-it isn't about the funny in your bone,it's about the depth of your perception. The wider your perceptions, the funnier you will find the world to be.
Conservatives?- The Three Stooges.
Liberals?-Lenny Bruce
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Posted by: willymack on Apr 23, 2009 10:16 AM
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Consider the preacher, respledent in his clerical garb, standing at an elevated podium, the better to look down his nose at his "flock". Same psychological process as those snotty mansions on hills. Now, look at the "conservative" politician, resplendent in his three thousand dollar suit (compliments of his neocon backers) on an elevated soapbox, the better to look down his nose at his flock.
They're both NEVER wrong, but ALWAYS right.
They're both above any scrutiny or criticism.
They would have their followers believe they're somehow superbeings with godlike status.
Their blathers are aimed at emotional responses, rather than reasoned opinions or arguments. The more noise, the better.
They're BOTH drunk on power and self-aggrandisment.
They BOTH receive payment, one from his followers, and the other from his puppet-masters.
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Posted by: ATH on Apr 23, 2009 10:46 AM
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Colbert is too subtle for them. They are generally loud, rude, hard-headed, heavily opinionated people, and they just aren't smart enough to figure it out. Of course, not all of them are so blind, but they all share a rigid philosophy.
Unfortunately, the Democrats aren't much better, and Obama is totally owned by the FED and Wall Street private bankers, the ultimate villians, who are destroying our dollar and looting the wealth of this nation, and undermining its sovereignty with laws like NAFTA, which has a section called Chapter 11 in which private, international arbiters can, as part of a suit against the U.S. government (and they can sue without permission, which is another attack on our sovereignty..anyone else has to get the government's permission to sue!) can overturn Supreme Court decisions! Look it up! If you can find it. I saw it discussed on Bill Moyer's Journal, I believe it was. If the FED doesn't stop creating trillions of dollars outof thin air, the dollar will be destroyed, if it's not alreay too late. We won't know until that money enters circulation.
It's very, very sad, whatwe have become.
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Posted by: Dmactds on Apr 23, 2009 11:06 AM
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Regards,
Cyrano
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Posted by: halrivers on Apr 23, 2009 11:08 AM
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On reviewing the clip, I see that he did let her speak more than folks he treats gentler.
A couple nights ago, Colbert seemed to be a little hard on Eduard Galeono, author of Open Veins of Latin America, but then did a puff piece on Swedish socialism.
Perhaps he just does not like to be pinned down, but I do think is quite shy of being a revolutionary.
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Posted by: canary131 on Apr 23, 2009 11:32 AM
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I understand that conservatives might believe that torture is justified (cause they're evil) but Colbert does not.
Colbert is brilliant (not evil) and NOT stupid enough to go on TV promoting torture. Either you get that he's JOKING or you believe it's OK to torture.
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Posted by: mozartsister on Apr 23, 2009 11:40 AM
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Even without that, it's clear which side he's really on.
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Posted by: Reality Chick on Apr 23, 2009 12:09 PM
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Tools. Don't even know when they are being laughed at.
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Posted by: jrmart on Apr 23, 2009 1:13 PM
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That is soooo scary.
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Posted by: AlwaysAskWhy on Apr 23, 2009 1:57 PM
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All ANY human being needs to have heard, watched or read was Colbert humiliating George Bush to his face at the Correspondents Dinner, and have seen the LOOK ON BUSH'S FACE, to know where Colbert stands: against EVERY STUPID THING the right wing stands for.
GOOD FOR COLBERT! MAKING MONEY FROM RIGHT WING DUMMIES! (oh, don't tell them, though)
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Posted by: hedgewytch on Apr 23, 2009 4:01 PM
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I don't think there's anything ambiguous about Colbert's political comedy. The correspondents dinner at the White House was proof enough of that. If the wing-nuts are blind enough to think Colbert shares their ideology, its proof that they deserve to be ridiculed to their faces.
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Posted by: anok on Apr 23, 2009 4:54 PM
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If anyone is fooled into believing he isn't making fun of you (and everyone else) a little bit, then you're a well.. fool.
That doesn't make him any less funny, and it doesn't mean his observations are incorrect - in fact, like Stewart as well - the fact that no party is spared means they probably see things a bit clearer than everyone else.
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Posted by: cplot on Apr 23, 2009 5:44 PM
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A more troubling issue is how much this excellent comedy can be used to deflect genuine activism. In the bleak times of Bush/Cheney and now Obama/Biden, it is too easy to rely on the satire as a catharsis – inhibiting public action. That's not anything against Colbert nor Stewart either, but it is a concern that we can't let this hour or so of TV stop us from public action: instead harnessing it to fuel public action.
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Posted by: Aquinas on Apr 23, 2009 5:53 PM
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Posted by: BCcovers on Apr 24, 2009 10:07 AM
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On the one hand you claim that conservatives are bigots, racists, idiots, and barbarians. You name call, pigeon-hole and discriminate against an entire group of people who you simply don't agree with on a few issues. So you call them idiots, and not just a few, named individuals, but all conservatives collectively.
It seems to me that there might be a few more bigoted, prejudiced people in your midst than you'd like to think. What's the difference between saying that Blacks are all idtiots from making the statement that conservatives are all idiots. They are both blanket statements reinforced by an individual's prejudices and ignorance.
Why can't some of you accept that his comedy trandscends poltical lines and celebrate that we can all enjoy his show as Americans, no matter what side of the poltical fence we lie on. In the end, let's just ignore the bigots (some of the posters above) and laugh at the guy, that's why he's on TV.
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Posted by: yesman on Apr 24, 2009 5:09 PM
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Posted by: Hans B on Apr 24, 2009 6:35 PM
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Could that be it? I mean, could there for once be a positive explanation for human behavior?
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Posted by: Koondog on Apr 24, 2009 9:17 PM
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Posted by: dkm on Apr 24, 2009 10:12 PM
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Posted by: dkm on Apr 24, 2009 10:21 PM
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As one person has mentioned, ideologues often lack the mental agility to recognize the twistedness that is necessary for humor and satire. Since the rightwing tends more toward ideology (reality has a liberal bias after all), they are less likely to catch the point.
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Posted by: YogiBear on Apr 24, 2009 11:48 PM
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He could tell you that his Dilbert was enormously popular with bad bosses the world 'round. They're all so egocentric they beleive he's making fun of all those other guys. Even dittoheads want to think they're indiviudals, rising above the herd.
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Posted by: TruthBeTold on Apr 25, 2009 5:33 PM
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See?
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Posted by: thealou on May 12, 2009 8:10 AM
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Maybe it's a good thing that conservatives watch the show. Some of them might just get their minds opened a bit.
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