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Fox News' Unhinged, Irrational Obama Attacks Stir up Violent Right-Wing Militants

Paranoid anti-government radicals used to have to rely on crude, inefficient methods of communication. Now they have Fox News.
April 22, 2009  |  
 
 
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Imagine if Fox News had been on the air back on February 28, 1993, just months into the new Democratic president's first term, when agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms attempted to serve warrants on David Koresh's Branch Davidian compound, located on the outskirts of Waco, Texas. Agents arrived because federal authorities got a tip that Koresh and the followers of the misguided messiah were stockpiling weapons.

The authorities were right. Outgunned, ATF agents quickly met resistance from the Davidians, who had a .50-caliber rifle, machine guns, and more than a million rounds of ammunition at their disposal. The shootout lasted hours and became the longest in American law-enforcement history. In the end, four ATF agents were killed, and 16 were wounded. Inside the compound, five Davidians were killed and scores more injured, including Koresh, who was shot in the hip and the wrist. The gunbattle signaled the start of a 51-day standoff between Koresh and federal authorities.

Rupert Murdoch's all-news channel didn't debut in America until October 1996, but it's chilling to consider the what-ifs of how today's Fox News lineup of doomsday, anti-government prophets would have reacted to controversial and defining news events in the early 1990s -- like Waco.

As news of the failed Waco raid broke, would Fox News' notoriously weepy and apocalyptic host Glenn Beck have broken down on the air and wept for the tyranny that he saw unfolding in the government's raid? While FBI negotiators tried to win the release of Koresh's followers, would Beck have warned viewers that the president would "take your gun away one way or another"?

Amidst the 51-day siege, would Beck have warned against the creeping "totalitarian state" inside America? Would the host have gravely announced that we'd "come to a very dangerous point in our country's long, storied history"?

Would Beck have routinely vilified President Clinton as a fascist? Would he have told viewers that he wanted to debunk the militia-movement conspiracy theory that the federal government was building prison camps, but that he just couldn't knock the story down -- and that, at first glance, it appeared to be "half true"?

And can you even imagine Beck's on-air reaction when the FBI's final, failed assault on the Waco compound unfolded on live TV on April 19, 1993? As the horrific images of the compound going up in flames and the grim realization spread that Koresh's followers were not coming out -- that they had staged a mass suicide (and in some cases, executions), rather than surrendering to federal officers -- would Beck have claimed that the scene of destruction reminded him of the "early days of Adolf Hitler"?

Would he have invited self-styled militiamen onto his show to game out how the pending civil war against the Clinton-led tyranny was likely to play out and to ponder whether members of the U.S. military would fire on American citizens when the blood began to flow in the streets? And setting aside all decency, would Beck -- post-Waco -- have pretended to douse a Fox News colleague in gasoline and, lamenting how the government was disenfranchising its citizens, then urged Clinton to just "set us on fire," or pleaded that it would be better if Clinton had just shot Beck "in the head"? (That's how Koresh died inside the Waco compound: from a bullet to the head.)

Based on the paranoid, anti-government rhetoric that Fox News has embraced since President Obama's inauguration, it's no leap to suspect that if Murdoch's outlet were broadcasting in the early 1990s -- and if it were broadcasting the same fringe message it's echoing today -- that the militia movement would have found a friend in Fox News during the Waco era and throughout Clinton's first term, when the conspiratorial patriot movements flourished.


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Too funny..
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Posted by: 2thepoint on Apr 22, 2009 2:32 AM   
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the left wing media vilified Bush and his government for 8 years. Facists who were going to take over the country and must be stopped.

now opposition of government wanting to control every aspect of our lives, control the census to ensure they stay in power, bring us socialism and incur more debt than all prior president combined is a problem?

At least Fox brings a diverse view unlike the drone like msm.

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syed salamah ali mahdi
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Posted by: salamah on Apr 22, 2009 2:32 AM   
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A legitimate and well argued WARNING. The problem is not Fox News/ Faux News. It is Rupert Murdoch. When would President Obama and those who elected him to office feel sufficiently threatened by Rupert and his likes in the filthy rich and pugnaciously vocal Christian-Jewish Zionist communities, to make Abe Lincoln type actions against them, legally of course! Nothing but this can put a stop to their 'nation breaking' activities!

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I remember Waco w/o Goggleing It
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Posted by: SeattlePackedSnowandCollidedCars on Apr 22, 2009 3:02 AM   
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Nice try however this diatribe is getting old fast. Fox News ratings are taking all the top spots from 5 pm EST to 10 while CNN and MSDNC is a distant 2nd and 3rd. I know you guys are ripping your hair out asking the question "where did this Beck dude come from" then just don't bother to watch the show and do more lazy blogging (this is not journalism).

To bring up mere blips on the political radar screen of people I never herd of and tie them do domestic terrorist then wrap it up all in a little bow and say "this is Fox News" is silly.

CNN is irrelevant however MSDNC is just that, the new mouthpiece for the current administration however in the America I grew up in we still had a freedom of choice. the 8 o'clock dude can be a hypocrite intern banging insecure freak of nature and the 9 o'clock chick can be factually incorrect 4 out of the 5 days she is on the air and just echo the sediment of "Dems = good, GOP = bad" for a full 22 minutes however in the United States you have the freedom to do just that however you also have the freedom to change the freaking station.

We have to be the dumbest generation when we have all the information at our fingertips but refuse to do the due diligence of looking up the facts beyond wikipedia

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loony tunes
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Posted by: Bushmaster on Apr 22, 2009 3:14 AM   
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The word 'hysterical' comes to mind. I have no idea what the 'right' is frightened of with regard to Obama.

I have noticed the speech that was intended to inflame passions and make the divide greater rather than smaller between political factions and community members itself coming from FOX News for a long time. One is led to wonder if this kind of programing falls within the area known as 'the public good'.

How does this kind of programing benefit the people as a whole. Does making enemies count as a benefit?

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Smear City
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Apr 22, 2009 3:30 AM   
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"The left wing media vilified Bush and his government for 8 years."

On the contrary--the left-wing media spent the last eight years vilifying Hillary Clinton. :(

Here's the story, for those whio may have missed it:

The progressives were scared sh*tless Hillary Clinton would win the primary. Since no one hates Democrats more than progressives, they dusted off and repeated all the anti-Clinton smears from the 90s. This is when they weren't calling their fellow Democrats racists and c*nts, or cheating outright.

God help a woman who gets in a progressive's way.

Thanks to all that dirty fighting by the progressive communty, we now have a neocon in the White House, and it's a virtual certainty we will have Republicans back in power in 2012. My money is on Jeb Bush.

Hey--thanks, progs!

Also, since they were willing to repeat right-wing smears against one of their own, none of the progressive blogs have any credibility whatsoever.

They are, after all, known liars.

Who knows if what HuffPo, DailyKos and the rest are saying today is legitimate...or some more crap they lifted from the right-wing smear machine? With Fox, at least you know the bias.


Right Will Eat Itself

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All I know is....
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Posted by: scooter74 on Apr 22, 2009 4:26 AM   
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That after watching only a few minutes of Fox, I feel anxious and angry. F*** that. Mainstream media is a joke, but Fox isn't. This station is not good for much except promoting hate. I'm so ashamed Rupert Murdoch was born in Australia :-(

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The Great GOP Implosion of 2009
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Apr 22, 2009 4:28 AM   
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It really is kind of funny when you think about it. This is dark comedy at it's finest. If it were a screenplay it would have been written by Paddy Chayefsky. Like a hunted felon who knows damned well that he is within minutes of having his cover blown, the Right Wing extremists who have dominated America's political dialogue for almost three decades, are resorting to desperation tactics of the most deplorable (and entertaining) kind. And I'm lovin' every minute of it.

Here's their problem: They know that the insane, "trickle down", voodoo economics of the "Reagan Revolution" has been exposed for all time and eternity to be nothing better than a two-bit scam - the economic equivalent of Three Card Monty. In order for them to survive politically, it is essential that they do everything humanly possible to ensure that President Obama's effort to save the American economy - and, thus, the American people - is a complete, disastrous failure. So, what to do? That's easy! Divide, distort and distract! It's the good old, tried and true, Karl Rove theory of statecraft.

Isn't this fun to watch?

THE RANT

Tom Degan, Goshen, New York

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pull the plug...
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Posted by: ellie on Apr 22, 2009 5:15 AM   
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why do we 'need' this alphabet soup of 'news' channels... pull the plug on satellite and cable... read on line papers (including international ones) and balance one paper against another... far more reliable!!!

if you are addicted to one channel, get it as streaming video on the 'trusty ole puter'... Democracy Now! is a good start...

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Faux News...
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Posted by: Cybershaman on Apr 22, 2009 5:29 AM   
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...is the Grand Wizard of television stations. Using shows that are irreverant enough to attract a more progressive audience and then packing those shows with a regressive ideological viewpoint in order to 're-educate' our population to accept the new Klan culture.

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NEWS FLASH
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Posted by: jstuv on Apr 22, 2009 5:59 AM   
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News Flash:

a) Half of all humanity has a below average IQ.

b) Predominantly Republican (Red) states have below average IQs.

c) By definition, the average Republican Party voter has a below average intelligence.

d) In American History, the contemporary Republican philosophy is a failed concept.

e) History has shown that implemented Republican philosophy leads to failure (Absolutely).

REPUBLICANISM: In order to maximize profit, all labor would be so minimally compensated that workers would practically be slaves. Wealth could only be inherited, as it would not be taxed. Elections would be perfunctory, as the outcome was already determined.

(The last country that tried that, collapsed.)

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- - - - - - i havent watched tv in years..
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Posted by: Anthhh on Apr 22, 2009 6:19 AM   
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. I see someone elses tv playing occasionally. I am sure that if I watched FAUXNEWS, I would LITERALLY VOMIT...

A sane person would have to be drunk out of my mind to tolerate that.

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vilified
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Posted by: jkfields on Apr 22, 2009 6:31 AM   
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Bush vilified Bush. Bush Broke World. Fox minor pathetic player.

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The Waco Tragedy was an Act of State Tyranny
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Posted by: wwsword on Apr 22, 2009 6:37 AM   
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The real question is not how FOX News would have covered Waco, but how the corporate news did in fact cover Waco, which was a whitewash of state tyranny and mass murder.

Alternet has some good articles, but oftentimes its editors publish pieces that suffer from superficiality and ideological confusion.

Alternet editors must develop a realist critique of state capitalism, learn to distinguish between state and government, and stop reflexively assuming the Democratic Party represents working people.

The people need media services that are critical of the state, political economy, and the two-party corporate political system.

Your article sometimes function to raise consciousness. But other times they serve the interests of those who strive to entrench false consciousness among the people.

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Too many total wingnuts getting their jollies on Alternet?
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Posted by: peterjkraus on Apr 22, 2009 7:00 AM   
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Want to know the intellectual makeup of your typical Fox viewer? Check out a lot of Alternet posts these days. Amazing, how the paranoids latch onto not only Alternet, but a number of other center-left web outlets and then spew their Dark-Ages-style bullshit. A shame, but often with a surely unintended humor. Which, again, makes it bearable.

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Ever notice how a piece exposing the Right-Wing Nut-o-sphere brings out the RWA trolls?
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Posted by: DaBear on Apr 22, 2009 7:04 AM   
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Holy crap, I had to scroll like forever to get past the whole lot of the RWA morons who've infested Alternet since November. Hilarious. I wonder if I can make RWAs appear in my kitchen if I just invoke the magic password, "Fox News"....

(Why my kitchen? Because then I can beat them to death with my coffee pot)

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I pray that Obama is not another shill...
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Apr 22, 2009 7:49 AM   
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who are trying to usher in a one-world dictatorship!

How the hell can Obama initiate "change" by recycling proven Zionists, Bilderbergers, CFRs, Trilaterals, NeoCons, and other treasonous filth into his "new" administration???

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The Republican/Democrat, left/right paradigm has been infiltrated & neutralized...
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Apr 22, 2009 7:51 AM   
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—they are two sides of the very same coin.

Obama may well be a tool of the Elites, as were all our other presidents for decades before, with the exception of JFK, perhaps.

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right wing truth
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Posted by: psychologist on Apr 22, 2009 7:52 AM   
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your headline should have said obama's extreemist actions stirs right wing media truth reporting to balence left wing lies!

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Glenn Beck
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Posted by: ClassAct on Apr 22, 2009 7:53 AM   
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We should remember that it is not to great a step to go from FEMA concentration camps to the greatest conspiracy of all: Alien abductions for an incipient colonization of Earth when the UN and its troops in the black helicopters come to take away the weapons of freedom-loving patriots. All us liberals and radicals will be brainwashed by TV frequencies that can read and program our minds, but fortunately tin foil hats will protect the true sons of liberty.
Sigh – I'm sharing my country with these people.

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Another re write of history
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Posted by: gihopkins on Apr 22, 2009 8:03 AM   
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Another re write of history ?
Koresh could have been arrested any week as he shopped in town every week. The event was stagged as 25 children were BURNED alive using illegal gas according to the Geneva convention.
The Koresh group made their income as a fire arms dealer at sports shows, they never broke any laws.
Oklahoma, another pearl harbor! When I broadcast on local cable TV footage from local stations of the 2nd, 3rd, 4th , 5th bomb located I was audited by the IRS for 9 years. As an engineer with a blasting license and owned a fertilizer manufacturing business the explosion of the fertilizer bomb only had 25 foot pounds of pressure on the building, please get your facts right or switch to comic book editorials. It is individuals like you spreading miss truths and lies and deception that undermine the foundation of which America was founded. The truth will set us free, even if Hitler's group operated on the principle of if you tell a lie enough, people will start to think it is the truth. Just support your statements or stop writing fiction as truth.

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Obama's already caving in to the rightwing. Wake the FUCK UP Obama !!
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Posted by: WYGunston on Apr 22, 2009 8:54 AM   
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The rightwing motherfucking loaders still HATE YOU no matter how far you go to appease those god damn motherfuckers !! Nader would at least have the balls and brains to shoot the god damn motherfucking rightwingers down but instead we the people are stuck with a fucking coward and his fucked up supporters ! Besides, why does Alternet even give a flying fuck about Foxnews when everyone on this site already knows that it's nothing more than a rightwing Republican site ? I guess it's better to redefine "moderate Democrat" as one who sucks up to the GOP huh ? I hate political opportunists like that and man do I love to use them as target practices out in Cody !

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What's this?
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Posted by: bettyn on Apr 22, 2009 9:00 AM   
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A wingnut infestation? Ignore the trolls!

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defending gov't slaughter at waco
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Posted by: hooka on Apr 22, 2009 9:00 AM   
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wow, if liberals persist in defending the waco slaughter because it was done by a democrat, they deserve the inevitable backlash of right wing populism. as disturbing as beck, hannity and the fox news clan are, they are marginal figures who are far less dangerous than the liberal capitalist msm defenders of state terror who malign its victims as "fundamentalists" "extremists" "terrorists" etc. liberals need rightist demagogues like beck in order to depict the opposition to their imperialist policies of "interventionist" slaughter as backwards redneck fascists and rally the support of good enlightened liberals. the success of right wing populism among the working class is due to the failures liberal capitalism. only the radical left can resolve this impasse.

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To the Victor
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Posted by: Gentle Axeman on Apr 22, 2009 9:31 AM   
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Having been through a number of administrations in my lifetime, it occurs to me that "To the Victor go the Spoils" explains the current turmoil in the media.....The new outs yelling about the new ins, and vice versa...
The only "Change" we're going to see is in the words...because talk is cheap....
Seen it all before.....

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Responsibility
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Posted by: Archie1954 on Apr 22, 2009 9:47 AM   
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Even Faux News must be held to account. It is required to act responsibly in its use of the public airwaves. If it does not then there is the FCC to deal with it. Any complaints about seditious activity by a major network should be made to the FCC for investigation and to the FBI for a review of threats made to the president. In the meantime the president must be protected at all costs. He is the hope of the future.

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I am fed up with
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Posted by: NamVeT on Apr 22, 2009 10:11 AM   
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this 2thepoint idiot. Obviously, the IQ of this individual is in the 60 to 80 range. To say that fox news is the most balanced shows my point above. Fox news is nothing but a mouthpiece for rush limbarf and others like him. How anyone, ANYONE with a brain can even sit down for five minutes and watch the bullshit that comes out of their mouths is remarkable to me. They don't report news...they edit everything to make their point and the idiots watching drink it up. It saddens me that people can actually be that fucking ignorant. My advice for 2thepoint is take off your blinders and get a second opinion for most likely the first time in your pitiful life!

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Democratic President
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Posted by: Tom Tele on Apr 22, 2009 10:31 AM   
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The election of a Democratic President brings out the unhinged hatred in the Right because it exposes one of their deepest held tenets to be a lie; that the U.S is a Right-wing country and the "people" are all right wing. Only the coastal "elites" are Left. This view is upset by the election of a Democrat. This is why the right gets a little crazy when we have a Democratic president.

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Who should take responsibility for Fox News
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Posted by: needlefoot on Apr 22, 2009 1:11 PM   
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I am 66 years-old. I remember the days when one would watch a news program that covered the news in depth and neutrally. Facts, wonderful facts! There was commentary, too, but it was labelled "commentary" and we viewers understood that it involved a discussion of the "facts" from a particular point of view.

Nowadays, I believe, there is no distinction between the presentation of "facts" and "commentary". Nor do we seem to recognize that the purpose of melding the two is to "entertain" and "manipulate" the viewer.

The responsibility for Fox News is mine and yours. Because we are so willing to accept that "fact" and "commentary" are the same, that "entertainment" and "manipulation" go hand-in-hand, we get Fox New's version of reality. Fox News has the right to exist and to spew the way it does. But I have the right not to watch or listen. And I don't. I have too much self-respect for myself and my intellect.

Therein, I think, lies the responsibility for each of us: to be well-educated enough to understand the difference between "fact" and "commentary", to recognize when we are being "entertained" and "manipulated", so that we can make more judicious choices about which news sources we will attend to.

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Posted by: BulldogRedeemer on Apr 22, 2009 1:12 PM   
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The only paranoia here is the sentiments expressed by Eric Boehlert. Glenn Beck has specifically stressed against violence and stated that the Tea Party spending and tax protests to not make it an anti-Obama protest. Boehlert is being totally dishonest. Hello!! The protests were not anti-government; they were anti-BIG FEDERAL GOVERNMENT intruding on state, local and individual rights. Whatever happened to our Republic and state's rights? The protests were not against government spending and taxes that are within the Constitutional role of the federal government. Boehlert is the unhinged one when he calls this as being radical! Look up the definition of fascism. It is government control of production and its output. It is not citizens protesting this unconstitutional control. Does Boehlert approve DHS classifying protesting citizens and war vets as potential terrorist? Now that is being unhinged. Where are all the protests from the left about government tyranny that they levied against the Bush administration? The Bush administration never proclaimed the DHS, designed to protect us against foreign terrorists, to redefine its role to target political opponents to big federal government and the current presidential administration. I guess tyranny now is okay now as long it agrees and enforces Boehlert's left-wing ideology. By the way. The federal government's handling of the Branch Davidian incident was not its finest hour.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH? HA!
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Posted by: kathrinka on Apr 22, 2009 1:51 PM   
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THE MEDIA IS OWNED BY THE POWERFUL ELITIST AKA ILLUMINATI.... SO MOST NETWORK NEWS IS SENSORED AKA FASCISM... LISTEN TO BBC... CAN'T TRUST MOST OR ANY USA MEDIA ANYMORE. I FEEL FOR OBAMA. STARTS OUT DECENT WELL INTENDED HUMANITARIAN. WAIT TILL THE BIG DOGS FINISH WITH HIM... ANOTHER CARTER... ANOTHER REAGAN? HOPE NOT. MORE LIKE LINCOLN OR KENNEDY BUT WE KNOW HOW THAT STORY ENDED. GOD HELP US... DON'T BE SHEEP. THINK FOR YOURSELVES.

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The Right Wingers are a dingy bunch to begin with, they are spinning
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Posted by: avidAmerican on Apr 22, 2009 1:55 PM   
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out of control so much that they might end up spinning themselves right off the planet. They always have this faked outrage going on. There really is nothing for them to worry about and everything to be grateful for, but their brains just are not wired right. Look at all the damage they did to this country for the past 8 years, that is something to be worried about. Now the Dems have to clean up again after another one of the loony Rs. They can't govern, they can't run this country (except into the ground) and they are worried about President Obama, geez you righty tighties, take some tranquilizers and smartenin' pills so you can come back to reality. Those dummies on TV get paid to carry on rants, you are doing all the rants for nothing. Normal people are not lining up with your lunacy, so just get over it and move on. Stop listening to the Paranoid Ranters and you will feel much better.

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pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...
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Posted by: earthpainter on Apr 22, 2009 2:02 PM   
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Interesting that FOX beat the drums for the Busheviks during the biggest erosion of our civil liberties. Now they play protectors of our god-given rights. Stoking violence like the OK bombing will inevitably lead to a FURTHER loss of those rights, then FOX will stoke more violence by using the loss of those liberties to prove its own point, leading to more violence and a greater loss of liberties, ad nauseam...

The inevitable end result is the creation of EXACTLY the thing they claim to hate: a fascist police state.

So what do they REALLY want????

(More money for the military-industrial complex and the private prison industry?)

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The World denounces Fox News and the Republican Voters
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Posted by: canadagirl on Apr 22, 2009 4:03 PM   
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Most of my family born in America. Been there since the Mayflower. I blog around the World, don't live in America but involved in it's politics because of personal interests. How caan anyone think of 'hate', 'bigotry', self-righteousness, blasphemy, orgies of 'inciting' paranoia against a President etc., as ethical, wise, stable or credible from the Republican Party and still be a credible mouthpiece in America and around the World? I dislike the way they have turned the Presidency into a dictatorship when they are in power, the 'war crimes', the stupid rough talk, the party of nothing good to say about anything. They do show a dumbed down reality within this Party they defend so much. And Obama is finally cleaning America's politicians up, their corruption and their dishonesty.

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seriously?
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Posted by: tean on Apr 22, 2009 4:41 PM   
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Why is it that every time i read an article on alternet, the author seeks to marginalize radicals or those who do not trust their government. I think alternet just got booted from my favs.

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OK, So
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Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Apr 22, 2009 5:10 PM   
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Why do you watch the shit?


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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Nice History: So What?
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Posted by: johnwinthrop on Apr 22, 2009 5:58 PM   
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Who are the violent right wingers like McVeigh who are stocking guns against Obama? Article doesn't say. And Fox put many anti Obama voices on, as well as letting Obama and his defenders have their airtime too. But what neonazis are getting their codes, their message, their "line" as the Commies used to say, from Fox?

Curious Alternet readers want to know. After all a headline designed to link fascists with Fox and with McVeigh types was stuck right on the main page.

Irresponsible journalism, Alternet?

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Why is progressive culture spawning tens of thousands of murders in urban America??
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Posted by: EagleX on Apr 22, 2009 6:20 PM   
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THe most violent region and demographic in the nation is the liberal controlled progressive influenced urban centers.

Why?

anti-judeo-christian anti-capitalist, and anti-constitutionalist Leftwing pop culture, media, academia, and the democratic party breed poverty, instability, blame, helplessness, despair, dependency, and hate.

BOOM

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"It's Just Television"
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Posted by: Lilly on Apr 22, 2009 7:03 PM   
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When Sean Hannity was asked why he has people on his show who say things like "Obama is a piece of shit and he can suck my machine gun" and "Hillary Clinton is a worthless bitch" (Sean Hannity Show, FOX, Ted Nugent, 8-28-07, quoted today on Media Matters), Hannity's response was "It's just television". This fits right in with the defense "I'm not a journalist---I'm just an entertainer" (Bill O'Reilly; Rush Limbaugh) and "I'm actually a comedian" (Glenn Beck). And it sounds a lot like the standard defense of bullies and racists, "We were just joking! What's the matter, don't you have a sense of humor?". Then we have the Free Speech people who say, "I'm not using hate speech when I preach from my pulpit that gays are pulling us all down to sin and must be stopped at any cost---I'm just exercising my Constitutional right to free speech."

We can continue this way of thinking. "I'm not encouraging armed insurrection against an elected government---I'm just outlining an exercise in patriotism." "I am not a racist because I drag black guys down the road chained to the bumper of my pickup truck. You are the racist if you want a special law saying I can't drag black people down the road chained to the bumper of my pickup truck."

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Drive by Media
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Posted by: psychologist on Apr 23, 2009 12:07 AM   
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It is fair to say that you are afraid, very afraid. especially with fox ratings through the roof and yours in the basement. Fox gives a fair and balenced report. You slant what the boss wants said at that moment!

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FOX NEWS IDIOTS
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Posted by: mindtrvlr on Apr 23, 2009 12:35 AM   
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ANYONE THAT LISTENS TO FAUX IS AN IMBECILE. RE:a person of the second order in a former classification of mental retardation, above the level of idiocy, having a mental age of seven or eight years and an intelligence quotient of 25 to 50.

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Posted by: RobNLA on Apr 23, 2009 7:18 AM   
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Remember how the recession and the financial mess started before we voted between Obama and McCain?

The bigger the mess, the more expensive it is to clean up. And Bush left a huge mess.

So if you want to start pointing fingers, start with Bush for the mess in the first place.

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Would Glenn Beck
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Posted by: jaguarxjs on Apr 23, 2009 7:24 AM   
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Would Glenn Beck ever had become a 'pundit' if he owned a gold coin-shitting unicorn?

Who knows. What if I hadn't read this article? I don't see the point of it, I want my five minutes back that it took to read this 'article'.

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RUPERT MURDOCH
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Posted by: shd1230 on Apr 23, 2009 7:43 AM   
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I REMEMBER THAT YEARS AGO I PREDICTED THAT RUPERT MURDOCK WOULD TRY TO TAKE OVER ALL OF THE NEWS MEDIA IN THIS COUNTRY AND BY DOING SO CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT. HE, WITH THE HELP OF THE BUSH-CHENEY ADMINISTRATION, ALMOST SUCCEEDED.HE IS A POWER-MAD TYRANNICAL MAN WHO HAS ALMOST SUCCEEDED IN WHAT HE SET OUT TO DO. THE TIDE IS TURNING AGAINST HIM AT LAST, AND HE'S GETTING OLD, BUT HE HASN'T GIVEN UP ON HIS GOAL. FOX NEWS IS A SICKENING DISPLAY OF UN-AMERICANISM MASQUERADING AS PATRIOTISM AND FOAMING AT THE MOUTH ABOUT GUNS, GUNS, GUNS (WHILE INCREASINGLY MANIACS WITH GUNS SLAUGHTER INNOCENT PEOPLE.)

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The Taliban & AQ Love 'Guns & God' too
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Apr 23, 2009 8:03 AM   
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They too love their Semi Automatics , and proclaim God's blessing to defeat the 'Godless'.
Truely the only way to tell The Islamic Extremeist from the Evangelicals is by the book they carrying and the symbols they worship.
In fact they basically promise similar pay offs in the afterlife. 72 virgins, how Rapturous!
What group terrorized Clinic and murdered MD's? Pipe bombed the Atlanta Olympics? And more recently opened fire at a church kids recital. Come on we have our own 'Christian' terrorist sleeper cells to contend with, Hell Bent on proving their 'worthiness' for 'salvation'.
You expound 'Guns and God' to me- you might as well wrap a towel around your head and take up residence in a Cave!Same Shit different Camoflague.

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THEY'RE NOT FUNNY (anymore)
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Apr 23, 2009 1:37 PM   
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I've heard these people in action and in person. They are convinced that Obama is selling the country down the tubes. They're dead serious. They appear to have had an eight year black out. I don't laugh at them anymore mostly because no attempt is made to shut them up. Megah McCain said today about Rove & Cheney, "you had your eight years,no go away". I personally don't recall any former administration staying around to trash the new people in office. This is new. Dick was in his undisclosed location for most of the eight years. Now he's all over the place. This is one angry mob of people. What happened to their patriotism and have they stopped supporting the troops? They've gone way beyond free speech and I think it's time to deal with them. They have openly talked of overthrowing the government. That's not idle chit chat. They mean it. ANNA

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Violent enforcement of "correct thinking"
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Posted by: patriot_vt on Apr 23, 2009 6:06 PM   
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News to the author of this divisive diatribe. "stockpiling weapons" is NOT a crime in The United States. Any firearms dealer or collector "stockpiles weapons".

The Branch Davidians may have had unusual and unconventional beliefs, but they didn't deserve to be attacked and burned alive by renegade Federal agents with a John Wayne complex. Anyone with an open mind and a willingness to question the government's use of violence should see "Waco: Rules of Engagement"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120472/

Interviews with local law enforcement reveal that the Davidians were minding their own business, harming nobody, and that child protective services had visited their home and found no evidence of the "abuse" that the Feds tried to allege (a crime that isn't even under BATF jurisdiction)

I love Alternet, but this article is total BS.

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Fox sucks, but you got Waco wrong.
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Although the mass media in the 90s reported what Janet Reno and Bill Clinton told them happened, eye witnesses and video tape show that bradley tanks firebombed the compound. The story is similar to one told after the torturous deaths of members of MOVE in Philadelphia... Corporate and government historians say it was a mass suicide, everyone else knows it was the state execution and persecution of John Africa's peaceful movement. Koresh is a very different story, of course, but is nonetheless a victim of government persecution, and only tried to defend his property from excessive force, and all reports of child abuse that were used to justify the action, as well as the stock-piling of weapons, were most likely fabricated when one examines the evidence.

It is interesting, however, how Fox is trying to jump on Ron Paul's back after denouncing him and laughing him off during the election. The point is that every president that a majority of voters thought would be different, was not different, Obama is bought and sold on Wall Street, the way every president is owned by the elites. Drinking his Kool-Aid doesn't change things, but hey, your job will be easier when a Republican gets back in there and FOX is the propanganda pulpit once more.

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Fox sucks, but you got Waco wrong.
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Although the mass media in the 90s reported what Janet Reno and Bill Clinton told them happened, eye witnesses and video tape show that bradley tanks firebombed the compound. The story is similar to one told after the torturous deaths of members of MOVE in Philadelphia... Corporate and government historians say it was a mass suicide, everyone else knows it was the state execution and persecution of John Africa's peaceful movement. Koresh is a very different story, of course, but is nonetheless a victim of government persecution, and only tried to defend his property from excessive force, and all reports of child abuse that were used to justify the action, as well as the stock-piling of weapons, were most likely fabricated when one examines the evidence.

It is interesting, however, how Fox is trying to jump on Ron Paul's back after denouncing him and laughing him off during the election. The point is that every president that a majority of voters thought would be different, was not different, Obama is bought and sold on Wall Street, the way every president is owned by the elites. Drinking his Kool-Aid doesn't change things, but hey, your job will be easier when a Republican gets back in there and FOX is the propanganda pulpit once more.

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Posted by: rev-rinehart on Apr 24, 2009 10:15 PM   
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Although the mass media in the 90s reported what Janet Reno and Bill Clinton told them happened, eye witnesses and video tape show that bradley tanks firebombed the compound. The story is similar to one told after the torturous deaths of members of MOVE in Philadelphia... Corporate and government historians say it was a mass suicide, everyone else knows it was the state execution and persecution of John Africa's peaceful movement. Koresh is a very different story, of course, but is nonetheless a victim of government persecution, and only tried to defend his property from excessive force, and all reports of child abuse that were used to justify the action, as well as the stock-piling of weapons, were most likely fabricated when one examines the evidence.

It is interesting, however, how Fox is trying to jump on Ron Paul's back after denouncing him and laughing him off during the election. The point is that every president that a majority of voters thought would be different, was not different, Obama is bought and sold on Wall Street, the way every president is owned by the elites. Drinking his Kool-Aid doesn't change things, but hey, your job will be easier when a Republican gets back in there and FOX is the propanganda pulpit once more.

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Fox sucks, but you got Waco wrong.
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Posted by: rev-rinehart on Apr 24, 2009 10:15 PM   
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Although the mass media in the 90s reported what Janet Reno and Bill Clinton told them happened, eye witnesses and video tape show that bradley tanks firebombed the compound. The story is similar to one told after the torturous deaths of members of MOVE in Philadelphia... Corporate and government historians say it was a mass suicide, everyone else knows it was the state execution and persecution of John Africa's peaceful movement. Koresh is a very different story, of course, but is nonetheless a victim of government persecution, and only tried to defend his property from excessive force, and all reports of child abuse that were used to justify the action, as well as the stock-piling of weapons, were most likely fabricated when one examines the evidence.

It is interesting, however, how Fox is trying to jump on Ron Paul's back after denouncing him and laughing him off during the election. The point is that every president that a majority of voters thought would be different, was not different, Obama is bought and sold on Wall Street, the way every president is owned by the elites. Drinking his Kool-Aid doesn't change things, but hey, your job will be easier when a Republican gets back in there and FOX is the propanganda pulpit once more.

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Although the mass media in the 90s reported what Janet Reno and Bill Clinton told them happened, eye witnesses and video tape show that bradley tanks firebombed the compound. The story is similar to one told after the torturous deaths of members of MOVE in Philadelphia... Corporate and government historians say it was a mass suicide, everyone else knows it was the state execution and persecution of John Africa's peaceful movement. Koresh is a very different story, of course, but is nonetheless a victim of government persecution, and only tried to defend his property from excessive force, and all reports of child abuse that were used to justify the action, as well as the stock-piling of weapons, were most likely fabricated when one examines the evidence.

It is interesting, however, how Fox is trying to jump on Ron Paul's back after denouncing him and laughing him off during the election. The point is that every president that a majority of voters thought would be different, was not different, Obama is bought and sold on Wall Street, the way every president is owned by the elites. Drinking his Kool-Aid doesn't change things, but hey, your job will be easier when a Republican gets back in there and FOX is the propanganda pulpit once more.

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This is such crap - even for Alternet...
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Posted by: Meadowhawk on Apr 25, 2009 12:04 PM   
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I was getting to the point where I was beginning to imagine that Alternet was being fair. But this is such crap - written by a drone for Obama - who is blind to the fact that it is in the best interest for an administration hellbent on turning the Republic into a socialist state modeled on the Soviet Union at its worst; where freedom of speech is no longer a right; where thoughts are controlled, where your life will be absolutely controlled by government - where you live, what you eat, what you think, what you say, how you live, where you work, and finally, live in fear of the government.

Whoever wrote this is a victim of garbage-brained, leftwing puppets.

You deserve what you will get.

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objective fox hater
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Posted by: romac on Apr 28, 2009 1:24 PM   
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"Paranoid anti-government radicals"

well that sound a hell of a lot like what fox was calling us libs for the past 8 years.

personally, i've got fox news completely blocked as a news source on my google news home page, and (using adblocker plus in firefox) have fox news completely blocked so they get absolutely no ad revenue if i stumble across one of their articles.

i really do hate fox's guts, but fox is just catering to a market - and maybe getting a few fence sitters over to their side, but mainly just catering to a preexisting demographic.

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You cute little Goggler! :)
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Posted by: kroltan on Apr 28, 2009 9:32 PM   
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Enjoy your big red enema!

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IT'S A BIRD, IT'S A PLANE! NO! IT'S SUUUUPER OBAMA!!!!
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Posted by: kanekoa64 on Apr 30, 2009 5:11 AM   
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Can you actually semi-grasp that the fragility of the whole ball of wax (AKA, our current government and all it entails,) requires playing ball, at least temporarily, with all sorts of minor level devils just to keep the boat floating?
And only deep delusion can be the reasoning behind believing Obama can undo two decades of GOP criminal activities.
Anyone notice he hasn't endorsed any questionable people's policies, but he still works with some of them? He can't magically make all the evil little trolls the Bush's brought in go away without risking multi level collapse and the dominoes falling in a less than predictable manner. The trolls know he needs their cooperation and most of them have done their best to be uncooperative, but time is showing Obama's slow hand approach works pretty well as they start to fall in step for fear of being left out of an obviously viable plan to pull our collective asses out of the fire. Politicians are all about looking good, in the end. I love watching this Right Wing BS as it falls apart like moldy cheese.
Patience and hard work. Very rewarding indeed.

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Despite The Mishandling By The ATF...
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Posted by: kanekoa64 on Apr 30, 2009 5:43 AM   
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Anyone remember the a--hole had to go because he was a DELUSIONAL, CHILD MOLESTING, INCESTUOUS, CULT LEADING, DEMAGOGUE, FREAK?!
One way or another, he was going to self-destruct and take as many people as he could anyway, so in a sad attempt to expedite matters, our government screwed the pooch in a hard, bad way. This does NOT make the sick creep some sort of cultural hero and the attempt to make him appear that way just to scrape up another conspiracy theory is pretty sick. He got his own daughters pregnant, folks. Get a grip. If you don't believe that's so, find a book written by survivors other than the ones paid to give quotes to conspiracy authors.

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Drive By Media? Heres Your Ratings, Chief...
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Posted by: kanekoa64 on Apr 30, 2009 6:39 AM   
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Psychologist, heal thyself...
Time slot is set for the demographic the show is aimed at, right?
Fox News is aimed to be on when "Joe" gets up or gets home from plumbing, driving combines, fixing Chevy's and attending Klan meetings.
Being as this demographic watches ONLY Fox News and no other stations, the number is boosted, because normal people watch a variety of news sources, not only when they have an opportunity to watch TV, but also on the web, making it a nearly impossible number of people to tally who DON'T watch Fox in droves, because they don't watch at the same time or the same show. Who knows, maybe even tuning into PBS or "Raymond" reruns.
So sorry to burst your little Fox bubble, but the numbers you suggest only mean the most readily available opportunity and timeslot available to the demographic that actually watches Fox is being used well by the loyal demographic who watches while assumedly polishing their guns and talking in hushed tones about what they'd like to do to that "Nigger President".
Oh, don't think we haven't heard that shit. We know what all this crap really boils down to. RACISM. You forget some of you are our relatives, much to ur chagrin. Check your numbers again and see if Fox's viewer-ship isn't 99.9% caucasian or people who think they are.
And Rupert and crew know it.
They love how greedily you folks lap up every hate filled sentence and carry it like the wind does the reek of an open sewer. They count on your addiction to that slow cooked, down home flavor of race hatred and fear, steeped for generations in the heart of our country, carefully hidden until it can be served up in a new, talky-box format with a big ol' American flag, so you can pretend talking about violent overthrow of a duly elected government and hinted rumors of Presidential assassination is somehow patriotic instead of sick, unpatriotic and un-American. And Disgustingly disloyal to the country you claim to love so much and the other Americans who live in it with you.
You may as well join the Taliban.
May I suggest if Fox and you want to overthrow the government, then put down the flag and GIT OUT, fuckers! You LOSE the right to call yourself an American when you talk treason for no good reason other than heresy, manufactured, bias propaganda and racist conjecture. "Y'all" seem to think we're afraid of your violent tendencies. Your wrong. Personally speaking, I'll fight you tooth and nail before I let my children live in a country you want to turn into a Right Wing, fascist, racist, Nazi-esque nightmare, day-camp wannabe doomed Roman Empire for caucasians only and the people who serve them.
Tooth and nail, to the last man.
HAVE A NICE DAY!

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Too funny..
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Posted by: 2thepoint on Apr 22, 2009 2:32 AM   
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the left wing media vilified Bush and his government for 8 years. Facists who were going to take over the country and must be stopped.

now opposition of government wanting to control every aspect of our lives, control the census to ensure they stay in power, bring us socialism and incur more debt than all prior president combined is a problem?

At least Fox brings a diverse view unlike the drone like msm.

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syed salamah ali mahdi
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Posted by: salamah on Apr 22, 2009 2:32 AM   
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A legitimate and well argued WARNING. The problem is not Fox News/ Faux News. It is Rupert Murdoch. When would President Obama and those who elected him to office feel sufficiently threatened by Rupert and his likes in the filthy rich and pugnaciously vocal Christian-Jewish Zionist communities, to make Abe Lincoln type actions against them, legally of course! Nothing but this can put a stop to their 'nation breaking' activities!

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I remember Waco w/o Goggleing It
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Posted by: SeattlePackedSnowandCollidedCars on Apr 22, 2009 3:02 AM   
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Nice try however this diatribe is getting old fast. Fox News ratings are taking all the top spots from 5 pm EST to 10 while CNN and MSDNC is a distant 2nd and 3rd. I know you guys are ripping your hair out asking the question "where did this Beck dude come from" then just don't bother to watch the show and do more lazy blogging (this is not journalism).

To bring up mere blips on the political radar screen of people I never herd of and tie them do domestic terrorist then wrap it up all in a little bow and say "this is Fox News" is silly.

CNN is irrelevant however MSDNC is just that, the new mouthpiece for the current administration however in the America I grew up in we still had a freedom of choice. the 8 o'clock dude can be a hypocrite intern banging insecure freak of nature and the 9 o'clock chick can be factually incorrect 4 out of the 5 days she is on the air and just echo the sediment of "Dems = good, GOP = bad" for a full 22 minutes however in the United States you have the freedom to do just that however you also have the freedom to change the freaking station.

We have to be the dumbest generation when we have all the information at our fingertips but refuse to do the due diligence of looking up the facts beyond wikipedia

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Posted by: Bushmaster on Apr 22, 2009 3:14 AM   
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The word 'hysterical' comes to mind. I have no idea what the 'right' is frightened of with regard to Obama.

I have noticed the speech that was intended to inflame passions and make the divide greater rather than smaller between political factions and community members itself coming from FOX News for a long time. One is led to wonder if this kind of programing falls within the area known as 'the public good'.

How does this kind of programing benefit the people as a whole. Does making enemies count as a benefit?

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Smear City
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Apr 22, 2009 3:30 AM   
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"The left wing media vilified Bush and his government for 8 years."

On the contrary--the left-wing media spent the last eight years vilifying Hillary Clinton. :(

Here's the story, for those whio may have missed it:

The progressives were scared sh*tless Hillary Clinton would win the primary. Since no one hates Democrats more than progressives, they dusted off and repeated all the anti-Clinton smears from the 90s. This is when they weren't calling their fellow Democrats racists and c*nts, or cheating outright.

God help a woman who gets in a progressive's way.

Thanks to all that dirty fighting by the progressive communty, we now have a neocon in the White House, and it's a virtual certainty we will have Republicans back in power in 2012. My money is on Jeb Bush.

Hey--thanks, progs!

Also, since they were willing to repeat right-wing smears against one of their own, none of the progressive blogs have any credibility whatsoever.

They are, after all, known liars.

Who knows if what HuffPo, DailyKos and the rest are saying today is legitimate...or some more crap they lifted from the right-wing smear machine? With Fox, at least you know the bias.


Right Will Eat Itself

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Posted by: scooter74 on Apr 22, 2009 4:26 AM   
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That after watching only a few minutes of Fox, I feel anxious and angry. F*** that. Mainstream media is a joke, but Fox isn't. This station is not good for much except promoting hate. I'm so ashamed Rupert Murdoch was born in Australia :-(

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The Great GOP Implosion of 2009
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Apr 22, 2009 4:28 AM   
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It really is kind of funny when you think about it. This is dark comedy at it's finest. If it were a screenplay it would have been written by Paddy Chayefsky. Like a hunted felon who knows damned well that he is within minutes of having his cover blown, the Right Wing extremists who have dominated America's political dialogue for almost three decades, are resorting to desperation tactics of the most deplorable (and entertaining) kind. And I'm lovin' every minute of it.

Here's their problem: They know that the insane, "trickle down", voodoo economics of the "Reagan Revolution" has been exposed for all time and eternity to be nothing better than a two-bit scam - the economic equivalent of Three Card Monty. In order for them to survive politically, it is essential that they do everything humanly possible to ensure that President Obama's effort to save the American economy - and, thus, the American people - is a complete, disastrous failure. So, what to do? That's easy! Divide, distort and distract! It's the good old, tried and true, Karl Rove theory of statecraft.

Isn't this fun to watch?

THE RANT

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pull the plug...
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Posted by: ellie on Apr 22, 2009 5:15 AM   
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why do we 'need' this alphabet soup of 'news' channels... pull the plug on satellite and cable... read on line papers (including international ones) and balance one paper against another... far more reliable!!!

if you are addicted to one channel, get it as streaming video on the 'trusty ole puter'... Democracy Now! is a good start...

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Faux News...
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Posted by: Cybershaman on Apr 22, 2009 5:29 AM   
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...is the Grand Wizard of television stations. Using shows that are irreverant enough to attract a more progressive audience and then packing those shows with a regressive ideological viewpoint in order to 're-educate' our population to accept the new Klan culture.

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NEWS FLASH
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Posted by: jstuv on Apr 22, 2009 5:59 AM   
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News Flash:

a) Half of all humanity has a below average IQ.

b) Predominantly Republican (Red) states have below average IQs.

c) By definition, the average Republican Party voter has a below average intelligence.

d) In American History, the contemporary Republican philosophy is a failed concept.

e) History has shown that implemented Republican philosophy leads to failure (Absolutely).

REPUBLICANISM: In order to maximize profit, all labor would be so minimally compensated that workers would practically be slaves. Wealth could only be inherited, as it would not be taxed. Elections would be perfunctory, as the outcome was already determined.

(The last country that tried that, collapsed.)

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- - - - - - i havent watched tv in years..
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Posted by: Anthhh on Apr 22, 2009 6:19 AM   
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. I see someone elses tv playing occasionally. I am sure that if I watched FAUXNEWS, I would LITERALLY VOMIT...

A sane person would have to be drunk out of my mind to tolerate that.

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Posted by: jkfields on Apr 22, 2009 6:31 AM   
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Bush vilified Bush. Bush Broke World. Fox minor pathetic player.

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The Waco Tragedy was an Act of State Tyranny
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Posted by: wwsword on Apr 22, 2009 6:37 AM   
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The real question is not how FOX News would have covered Waco, but how the corporate news did in fact cover Waco, which was a whitewash of state tyranny and mass murder.

Alternet has some good articles, but oftentimes its editors publish pieces that suffer from superficiality and ideological confusion.

Alternet editors must develop a realist critique of state capitalism, learn to distinguish between state and government, and stop reflexively assuming the Democratic Party represents working people.

The people need media services that are critical of the state, political economy, and the two-party corporate political system.

Your article sometimes function to raise consciousness. But other times they serve the interests of those who strive to entrench false consciousness among the people.

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Too many total wingnuts getting their jollies on Alternet?
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Posted by: peterjkraus on Apr 22, 2009 7:00 AM   
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Want to know the intellectual makeup of your typical Fox viewer? Check out a lot of Alternet posts these days. Amazing, how the paranoids latch onto not only Alternet, but a number of other center-left web outlets and then spew their Dark-Ages-style bullshit. A shame, but often with a surely unintended humor. Which, again, makes it bearable.

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Ever notice how a piece exposing the Right-Wing Nut-o-sphere brings out the RWA trolls?
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Posted by: DaBear on Apr 22, 2009 7:04 AM   
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Holy crap, I had to scroll like forever to get past the whole lot of the RWA morons who've infested Alternet since November. Hilarious. I wonder if I can make RWAs appear in my kitchen if I just invoke the magic password, "Fox News"....

(Why my kitchen? Because then I can beat them to death with my coffee pot)

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I pray that Obama is not another shill...
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Apr 22, 2009 7:49 AM   
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who are trying to usher in a one-world dictatorship!

How the hell can Obama initiate "change" by recycling proven Zionists, Bilderbergers, CFRs, Trilaterals, NeoCons, and other treasonous filth into his "new" administration???

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The Republican/Democrat, left/right paradigm has been infiltrated & neutralized...
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Apr 22, 2009 7:51 AM   
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—they are two sides of the very same coin.

Obama may well be a tool of the Elites, as were all our other presidents for decades before, with the exception of JFK, perhaps.

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right wing truth
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Posted by: psychologist on Apr 22, 2009 7:52 AM   
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your headline should have said obama's extreemist actions stirs right wing media truth reporting to balence left wing lies!

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Glenn Beck
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Posted by: ClassAct on Apr 22, 2009 7:53 AM   
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We should remember that it is not to great a step to go from FEMA concentration camps to the greatest conspiracy of all: Alien abductions for an incipient colonization of Earth when the UN and its troops in the black helicopters come to take away the weapons of freedom-loving patriots. All us liberals and radicals will be brainwashed by TV frequencies that can read and program our minds, but fortunately tin foil hats will protect the true sons of liberty.
Sigh – I'm sharing my country with these people.

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Another re write of history
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Posted by: gihopkins on Apr 22, 2009 8:03 AM   
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Another re write of history ?
Koresh could have been arrested any week as he shopped in town every week. The event was stagged as 25 children were BURNED alive using illegal gas according to the Geneva convention.
The Koresh group made their income as a fire arms dealer at sports shows, they never broke any laws.
Oklahoma, another pearl harbor! When I broadcast on local cable TV footage from local stations of the 2nd, 3rd, 4th , 5th bomb located I was audited by the IRS for 9 years. As an engineer with a blasting license and owned a fertilizer manufacturing business the explosion of the fertilizer bomb only had 25 foot pounds of pressure on the building, please get your facts right or switch to comic book editorials. It is individuals like you spreading miss truths and lies and deception that undermine the foundation of which America was founded. The truth will set us free, even if Hitler's group operated on the principle of if you tell a lie enough, people will start to think it is the truth. Just support your statements or stop writing fiction as truth.

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Obama's already caving in to the rightwing. Wake the FUCK UP Obama !!
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Posted by: WYGunston on Apr 22, 2009 8:54 AM   
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The rightwing motherfucking loaders still HATE YOU no matter how far you go to appease those god damn motherfuckers !! Nader would at least have the balls and brains to shoot the god damn motherfucking rightwingers down but instead we the people are stuck with a fucking coward and his fucked up supporters ! Besides, why does Alternet even give a flying fuck about Foxnews when everyone on this site already knows that it's nothing more than a rightwing Republican site ? I guess it's better to redefine "moderate Democrat" as one who sucks up to the GOP huh ? I hate political opportunists like that and man do I love to use them as target practices out in Cody !

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What's this?
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Posted by: bettyn on Apr 22, 2009 9:00 AM   
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A wingnut infestation? Ignore the trolls!

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defending gov't slaughter at waco
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Posted by: hooka on Apr 22, 2009 9:00 AM   
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wow, if liberals persist in defending the waco slaughter because it was done by a democrat, they deserve the inevitable backlash of right wing populism. as disturbing as beck, hannity and the fox news clan are, they are marginal figures who are far less dangerous than the liberal capitalist msm defenders of state terror who malign its victims as "fundamentalists" "extremists" "terrorists" etc. liberals need rightist demagogues like beck in order to depict the opposition to their imperialist policies of "interventionist" slaughter as backwards redneck fascists and rally the support of good enlightened liberals. the success of right wing populism among the working class is due to the failures liberal capitalism. only the radical left can resolve this impasse.

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To the Victor
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Posted by: Gentle Axeman on Apr 22, 2009 9:31 AM   
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Having been through a number of administrations in my lifetime, it occurs to me that "To the Victor go the Spoils" explains the current turmoil in the media.....The new outs yelling about the new ins, and vice versa...
The only "Change" we're going to see is in the words...because talk is cheap....
Seen it all before.....

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Responsibility
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Posted by: Archie1954 on Apr 22, 2009 9:47 AM   
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Even Faux News must be held to account. It is required to act responsibly in its use of the public airwaves. If it does not then there is the FCC to deal with it. Any complaints about seditious activity by a major network should be made to the FCC for investigation and to the FBI for a review of threats made to the president. In the meantime the president must be protected at all costs. He is the hope of the future.

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Posted by: NamVeT on Apr 22, 2009 10:11 AM   
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this 2thepoint idiot. Obviously, the IQ of this individual is in the 60 to 80 range. To say that fox news is the most balanced shows my point above. Fox news is nothing but a mouthpiece for rush limbarf and others like him. How anyone, ANYONE with a brain can even sit down for five minutes and watch the bullshit that comes out of their mouths is remarkable to me. They don't report news...they edit everything to make their point and the idiots watching drink it up. It saddens me that people can actually be that fucking ignorant. My advice for 2thepoint is take off your blinders and get a second opinion for most likely the first time in your pitiful life!

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Democratic President
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Posted by: Tom Tele on Apr 22, 2009 10:31 AM   
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The election of a Democratic President brings out the unhinged hatred in the Right because it exposes one of their deepest held tenets to be a lie; that the U.S is a Right-wing country and the "people" are all right wing. Only the coastal "elites" are Left. This view is upset by the election of a Democrat. This is why the right gets a little crazy when we have a Democratic president.

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Who should take responsibility for Fox News
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Posted by: needlefoot on Apr 22, 2009 1:11 PM   
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I am 66 years-old. I remember the days when one would watch a news program that covered the news in depth and neutrally. Facts, wonderful facts! There was commentary, too, but it was labelled "commentary" and we viewers understood that it involved a discussion of the "facts" from a particular point of view.

Nowadays, I believe, there is no distinction between the presentation of "facts" and "commentary". Nor do we seem to recognize that the purpose of melding the two is to "entertain" and "manipulate" the viewer.

The responsibility for Fox News is mine and yours. Because we are so willing to accept that "fact" and "commentary" are the same, that "entertainment" and "manipulation" go hand-in-hand, we get Fox New's version of reality. Fox News has the right to exist and to spew the way it does. But I have the right not to watch or listen. And I don't. I have too much self-respect for myself and my intellect.

Therein, I think, lies the responsibility for each of us: to be well-educated enough to understand the difference between "fact" and "commentary", to recognize when we are being "entertained" and "manipulated", so that we can make more judicious choices about which news sources we will attend to.

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Posted by: BulldogRedeemer on Apr 22, 2009 1:12 PM   
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The only paranoia here is the sentiments expressed by Eric Boehlert. Glenn Beck has specifically stressed against violence and stated that the Tea Party spending and tax protests to not make it an anti-Obama protest. Boehlert is being totally dishonest. Hello!! The protests were not anti-government; they were anti-BIG FEDERAL GOVERNMENT intruding on state, local and individual rights. Whatever happened to our Republic and state's rights? The protests were not against government spending and taxes that are within the Constitutional role of the federal government. Boehlert is the unhinged one when he calls this as being radical! Look up the definition of fascism. It is government control of production and its output. It is not citizens protesting this unconstitutional control. Does Boehlert approve DHS classifying protesting citizens and war vets as potential terrorist? Now that is being unhinged. Where are all the protests from the left about government tyranny that they levied against the Bush administration? The Bush administration never proclaimed the DHS, designed to protect us against foreign terrorists, to redefine its role to target political opponents to big federal government and the current presidential administration. I guess tyranny now is okay now as long it agrees and enforces Boehlert's left-wing ideology. By the way. The federal government's handling of the Branch Davidian incident was not its finest hour.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH? HA!
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Posted by: kathrinka on Apr 22, 2009 1:51 PM   
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THE MEDIA IS OWNED BY THE POWERFUL ELITIST AKA ILLUMINATI.... SO MOST NETWORK NEWS IS SENSORED AKA FASCISM... LISTEN TO BBC... CAN'T TRUST MOST OR ANY USA MEDIA ANYMORE. I FEEL FOR OBAMA. STARTS OUT DECENT WELL INTENDED HUMANITARIAN. WAIT TILL THE BIG DOGS FINISH WITH HIM... ANOTHER CARTER... ANOTHER REAGAN? HOPE NOT. MORE LIKE LINCOLN OR KENNEDY BUT WE KNOW HOW THAT STORY ENDED. GOD HELP US... DON'T BE SHEEP. THINK FOR YOURSELVES.

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The Right Wingers are a dingy bunch to begin with, they are spinning
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Posted by: avidAmerican on Apr 22, 2009 1:55 PM   
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out of control so much that they might end up spinning themselves right off the planet. They always have this faked outrage going on. There really is nothing for them to worry about and everything to be grateful for, but their brains just are not wired right. Look at all the damage they did to this country for the past 8 years, that is something to be worried about. Now the Dems have to clean up again after another one of the loony Rs. They can't govern, they can't run this country (except into the ground) and they are worried about President Obama, geez you righty tighties, take some tranquilizers and smartenin' pills so you can come back to reality. Those dummies on TV get paid to carry on rants, you are doing all the rants for nothing. Normal people are not lining up with your lunacy, so just get over it and move on. Stop listening to the Paranoid Ranters and you will feel much better.

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pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...
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Posted by: earthpainter on Apr 22, 2009 2:02 PM   
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Interesting that FOX beat the drums for the Busheviks during the biggest erosion of our civil liberties. Now they play protectors of our god-given rights. Stoking violence like the OK bombing will inevitably lead to a FURTHER loss of those rights, then FOX will stoke more violence by using the loss of those liberties to prove its own point, leading to more violence and a greater loss of liberties, ad nauseam...

The inevitable end result is the creation of EXACTLY the thing they claim to hate: a fascist police state.

So what do they REALLY want????

(More money for the military-industrial complex and the private prison industry?)

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The World denounces Fox News and the Republican Voters
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Posted by: canadagirl on Apr 22, 2009 4:03 PM   
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Most of my family born in America. Been there since the Mayflower. I blog around the World, don't live in America but involved in it's politics because of personal interests. How caan anyone think of 'hate', 'bigotry', self-righteousness, blasphemy, orgies of 'inciting' paranoia against a President etc., as ethical, wise, stable or credible from the Republican Party and still be a credible mouthpiece in America and around the World? I dislike the way they have turned the Presidency into a dictatorship when they are in power, the 'war crimes', the stupid rough talk, the party of nothing good to say about anything. They do show a dumbed down reality within this Party they defend so much. And Obama is finally cleaning America's politicians up, their corruption and their dishonesty.

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seriously?
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Posted by: tean on Apr 22, 2009 4:41 PM   
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Why is it that every time i read an article on alternet, the author seeks to marginalize radicals or those who do not trust their government. I think alternet just got booted from my favs.

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OK, So
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Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Apr 22, 2009 5:10 PM   
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Why do you watch the shit?


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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Nice History: So What?
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Posted by: johnwinthrop on Apr 22, 2009 5:58 PM   
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Who are the violent right wingers like McVeigh who are stocking guns against Obama? Article doesn't say. And Fox put many anti Obama voices on, as well as letting Obama and his defenders have their airtime too. But what neonazis are getting their codes, their message, their "line" as the Commies used to say, from Fox?

Curious Alternet readers want to know. After all a headline designed to link fascists with Fox and with McVeigh types was stuck right on the main page.

Irresponsible journalism, Alternet?

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Why is progressive culture spawning tens of thousands of murders in urban America??
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Posted by: EagleX on Apr 22, 2009 6:20 PM   
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THe most violent region and demographic in the nation is the liberal controlled progressive influenced urban centers.

Why?

anti-judeo-christian anti-capitalist, and anti-constitutionalist Leftwing pop culture, media, academia, and the democratic party breed poverty, instability, blame, helplessness, despair, dependency, and hate.

BOOM

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"It's Just Television"
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Posted by: Lilly on Apr 22, 2009 7:03 PM   
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When Sean Hannity was asked why he has people on his show who say things like "Obama is a piece of shit and he can suck my machine gun" and "Hillary Clinton is a worthless bitch" (Sean Hannity Show, FOX, Ted Nugent, 8-28-07, quoted today on Media Matters), Hannity's response was "It's just television". This fits right in with the defense "I'm not a journalist---I'm just an entertainer" (Bill O'Reilly; Rush Limbaugh) and "I'm actually a comedian" (Glenn Beck). And it sounds a lot like the standard defense of bullies and racists, "We were just joking! What's the matter, don't you have a sense of humor?". Then we have the Free Speech people who say, "I'm not using hate speech when I preach from my pulpit that gays are pulling us all down to sin and must be stopped at any cost---I'm just exercising my Constitutional right to free speech."

We can continue this way of thinking. "I'm not encouraging armed insurrection against an elected government---I'm just outlining an exercise in patriotism." "I am not a racist because I drag black guys down the road chained to the bumper of my pickup truck. You are the racist if you want a special law saying I can't drag black people down the road chained to the bumper of my pickup truck."

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Drive by Media
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Posted by: psychologist on Apr 23, 2009 12:07 AM   
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It is fair to say that you are afraid, very afraid. especially with fox ratings through the roof and yours in the basement. Fox gives a fair and balenced report. You slant what the boss wants said at that moment!

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FOX NEWS IDIOTS
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Posted by: mindtrvlr on Apr 23, 2009 12:35 AM   
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ANYONE THAT LISTENS TO FAUX IS AN IMBECILE. RE:a person of the second order in a former classification of mental retardation, above the level of idiocy, having a mental age of seven or eight years and an intelligence quotient of 25 to 50.

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Wow
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Posted by: RobNLA on Apr 23, 2009 7:18 AM   
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Remember how the recession and the financial mess started before we voted between Obama and McCain?

The bigger the mess, the more expensive it is to clean up. And Bush left a huge mess.

So if you want to start pointing fingers, start with Bush for the mess in the first place.

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Would Glenn Beck
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Posted by: jaguarxjs on Apr 23, 2009 7:24 AM   
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Would Glenn Beck ever had become a 'pundit' if he owned a gold coin-shitting unicorn?

Who knows. What if I hadn't read this article? I don't see the point of it, I want my five minutes back that it took to read this 'article'.

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RUPERT MURDOCH
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Posted by: shd1230 on Apr 23, 2009 7:43 AM   
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I REMEMBER THAT YEARS AGO I PREDICTED THAT RUPERT MURDOCK WOULD TRY TO TAKE OVER ALL OF THE NEWS MEDIA IN THIS COUNTRY AND BY DOING SO CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT. HE, WITH THE HELP OF THE BUSH-CHENEY ADMINISTRATION, ALMOST SUCCEEDED.HE IS A POWER-MAD TYRANNICAL MAN WHO HAS ALMOST SUCCEEDED IN WHAT HE SET OUT TO DO. THE TIDE IS TURNING AGAINST HIM AT LAST, AND HE'S GETTING OLD, BUT HE HASN'T GIVEN UP ON HIS GOAL. FOX NEWS IS A SICKENING DISPLAY OF UN-AMERICANISM MASQUERADING AS PATRIOTISM AND FOAMING AT THE MOUTH ABOUT GUNS, GUNS, GUNS (WHILE INCREASINGLY MANIACS WITH GUNS SLAUGHTER INNOCENT PEOPLE.)

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The Taliban & AQ Love 'Guns & God' too
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Apr 23, 2009 8:03 AM   
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They too love their Semi Automatics , and proclaim God's blessing to defeat the 'Godless'.
Truely the only way to tell The Islamic Extremeist from the Evangelicals is by the book they carrying and the symbols they worship.
In fact they basically promise similar pay offs in the afterlife. 72 virgins, how Rapturous!
What group terrorized Clinic and murdered MD's? Pipe bombed the Atlanta Olympics? And more recently opened fire at a church kids recital. Come on we have our own 'Christian' terrorist sleeper cells to contend with, Hell Bent on proving their 'worthiness' for 'salvation'.
You expound 'Guns and God' to me- you might as well wrap a towel around your head and take up residence in a Cave!Same Shit different Camoflague.

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THEY'RE NOT FUNNY (anymore)
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Apr 23, 2009 1:37 PM   
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I've heard these people in action and in person. They are convinced that Obama is selling the country down the tubes. They're dead serious. They appear to have had an eight year black out. I don't laugh at them anymore mostly because no attempt is made to shut them up. Megah McCain said today about Rove & Cheney, "you had your eight years,no go away". I personally don't recall any former administration staying around to trash the new people in office. This is new. Dick was in his undisclosed location for most of the eight years. Now he's all over the place. This is one angry mob of people. What happened to their patriotism and have they stopped supporting the troops? They've gone way beyond free speech and I think it's time to deal with them. They have openly talked of overthrowing the government. That's not idle chit chat. They mean it. ANNA

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Violent enforcement of "correct thinking"
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Posted by: patriot_vt on Apr 23, 2009 6:06 PM   
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News to the author of this divisive diatribe. "stockpiling weapons" is NOT a crime in The United States. Any firearms dealer or collector "stockpiles weapons".

The Branch Davidians may have had unusual and unconventional beliefs, but they didn't deserve to be attacked and burned alive by renegade Federal agents with a John Wayne complex. Anyone with an open mind and a willingness to question the government's use of violence should see "Waco: Rules of Engagement"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120472/

Interviews with local law enforcement reveal that the Davidians were minding their own business, harming nobody, and that child protective services had visited their home and found no evidence of the "abuse" that the Feds tried to allege (a crime that isn't even under BATF jurisdiction)

I love Alternet, but this article is total BS.

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Fox sucks, but you got Waco wrong.
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Although the mass media in the 90s reported what Janet Reno and Bill Clinton told them happened, eye witnesses and video tape show that bradley tanks firebombed the compound. The story is similar to one told after the torturous deaths of members of MOVE in Philadelphia... Corporate and government historians say it was a mass suicide, everyone else knows it was the state execution and persecution of John Africa's peaceful movement. Koresh is a very different story, of course, but is nonetheless a victim of government persecution, and only tried to defend his property from excessive force, and all reports of child abuse that were used to justify the action, as well as the stock-piling of weapons, were most likely fabricated when one examines the evidence.

It is interesting, however, how Fox is trying to jump on Ron Paul's back after denouncing him and laughing him off during the election. The point is that every president that a majority of voters thought would be different, was not different, Obama is bought and sold on Wall Street, the way every president is owned by the elites. Drinking his Kool-Aid doesn't change things, but hey, your job will be easier when a Republican gets back in there and FOX is the propanganda pulpit once more.

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Fox sucks, but you got Waco wrong.
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Posted by: rev-rinehart on Apr 24, 2009 10:15 PM   
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Although the mass media in the 90s reported what Janet Reno and Bill Clinton told them happened, eye witnesses and video tape show that bradley tanks firebombed the compound. The story is similar to one told after the torturous deaths of members of MOVE in Philadelphia... Corporate and government historians say it was a mass suicide, everyone else knows it was the state execution and persecution of John Africa's peaceful movement. Koresh is a very different story, of course, but is nonetheless a victim of government persecution, and only tried to defend his property from excessive force, and all reports of child abuse that were used to justify the action, as well as the stock-piling of weapons, were most likely fabricated when one examines the evidence.

It is interesting, however, how Fox is trying to jump on Ron Paul's back after denouncing him and laughing him off during the election. The point is that every president that a majority of voters thought would be different, was not different, Obama is bought and sold on Wall Street, the way every president is owned by the elites. Drinking his Kool-Aid doesn't change things, but hey, your job will be easier when a Republican gets back in there and FOX is the propanganda pulpit once more.

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Posted by: rev-rinehart on Apr 24, 2009 10:15 PM   
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Although the mass media in the 90s reported what Janet Reno and Bill Clinton told them happened, eye witnesses and video tape show that bradley tanks firebombed the compound. The story is similar to one told after the torturous deaths of members of MOVE in Philadelphia... Corporate and government historians say it was a mass suicide, everyone else knows it was the state execution and persecution of John Africa's peaceful movement. Koresh is a very different story, of course, but is nonetheless a victim of government persecution, and only tried to defend his property from excessive force, and all reports of child abuse that were used to justify the action, as well as the stock-piling of weapons, were most likely fabricated when one examines the evidence.

It is interesting, however, how Fox is trying to jump on Ron Paul's back after denouncing him and laughing him off during the election. The point is that every president that a majority of voters thought would be different, was not different, Obama is bought and sold on Wall Street, the way every president is owned by the elites. Drinking his Kool-Aid doesn't change things, but hey, your job will be easier when a Republican gets back in there and FOX is the propanganda pulpit once more.

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Fox sucks, but you got Waco wrong.
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Posted by: rev-rinehart on Apr 24, 2009 10:15 PM   
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Although the mass media in the 90s reported what Janet Reno and Bill Clinton told them happened, eye witnesses and video tape show that bradley tanks firebombed the compound. The story is similar to one told after the torturous deaths of members of MOVE in Philadelphia... Corporate and government historians say it was a mass suicide, everyone else knows it was the state execution and persecution of John Africa's peaceful movement. Koresh is a very different story, of course, but is nonetheless a victim of government persecution, and only tried to defend his property from excessive force, and all reports of child abuse that were used to justify the action, as well as the stock-piling of weapons, were most likely fabricated when one examines the evidence.

It is interesting, however, how Fox is trying to jump on Ron Paul's back after denouncing him and laughing him off during the election. The point is that every president that a majority of voters thought would be different, was not different, Obama is bought and sold on Wall Street, the way every president is owned by the elites. Drinking his Kool-Aid doesn't change things, but hey, your job will be easier when a Republican gets back in there and FOX is the propanganda pulpit once more.

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Posted by: rev-rinehart on Apr 24, 2009 10:15 PM   
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Although the mass media in the 90s reported what Janet Reno and Bill Clinton told them happened, eye witnesses and video tape show that bradley tanks firebombed the compound. The story is similar to one told after the torturous deaths of members of MOVE in Philadelphia... Corporate and government historians say it was a mass suicide, everyone else knows it was the state execution and persecution of John Africa's peaceful movement. Koresh is a very different story, of course, but is nonetheless a victim of government persecution, and only tried to defend his property from excessive force, and all reports of child abuse that were used to justify the action, as well as the stock-piling of weapons, were most likely fabricated when one examines the evidence.

It is interesting, however, how Fox is trying to jump on Ron Paul's back after denouncing him and laughing him off during the election. The point is that every president that a majority of voters thought would be different, was not different, Obama is bought and sold on Wall Street, the way every president is owned by the elites. Drinking his Kool-Aid doesn't change things, but hey, your job will be easier when a Republican gets back in there and FOX is the propanganda pulpit once more.

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This is such crap - even for Alternet...
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Posted by: Meadowhawk on Apr 25, 2009 12:04 PM   
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I was getting to the point where I was beginning to imagine that Alternet was being fair. But this is such crap - written by a drone for Obama - who is blind to the fact that it is in the best interest for an administration hellbent on turning the Republic into a socialist state modeled on the Soviet Union at its worst; where freedom of speech is no longer a right; where thoughts are controlled, where your life will be absolutely controlled by government - where you live, what you eat, what you think, what you say, how you live, where you work, and finally, live in fear of the government.

Whoever wrote this is a victim of garbage-brained, leftwing puppets.

You deserve what you will get.

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objective fox hater
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Posted by: romac on Apr 28, 2009 1:24 PM   
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"Paranoid anti-government radicals"

well that sound a hell of a lot like what fox was calling us libs for the past 8 years.

personally, i've got fox news completely blocked as a news source on my google news home page, and (using adblocker plus in firefox) have fox news completely blocked so they get absolutely no ad revenue if i stumble across one of their articles.

i really do hate fox's guts, but fox is just catering to a market - and maybe getting a few fence sitters over to their side, but mainly just catering to a preexisting demographic.

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You cute little Goggler! :)
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Posted by: kroltan on Apr 28, 2009 9:32 PM   
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Enjoy your big red enema!

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IT'S A BIRD, IT'S A PLANE! NO! IT'S SUUUUPER OBAMA!!!!
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Posted by: kanekoa64 on Apr 30, 2009 5:11 AM   
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Can you actually semi-grasp that the fragility of the whole ball of wax (AKA, our current government and all it entails,) requires playing ball, at least temporarily, with all sorts of minor level devils just to keep the boat floating?
And only deep delusion can be the reasoning behind believing Obama can undo two decades of GOP criminal activities.
Anyone notice he hasn't endorsed any questionable people's policies, but he still works with some of them? He can't magically make all the evil little trolls the Bush's brought in go away without risking multi level collapse and the dominoes falling in a less than predictable manner. The trolls know he needs their cooperation and most of them have done their best to be uncooperative, but time is showing Obama's slow hand approach works pretty well as they start to fall in step for fear of being left out of an obviously viable plan to pull our collective asses out of the fire. Politicians are all about looking good, in the end. I love watching this Right Wing BS as it falls apart like moldy cheese.
Patience and hard work. Very rewarding indeed.

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Despite The Mishandling By The ATF...
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Posted by: kanekoa64 on Apr 30, 2009 5:43 AM   
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Anyone remember the a--hole had to go because he was a DELUSIONAL, CHILD MOLESTING, INCESTUOUS, CULT LEADING, DEMAGOGUE, FREAK?!
One way or another, he was going to self-destruct and take as many people as he could anyway, so in a sad attempt to expedite matters, our government screwed the pooch in a hard, bad way. This does NOT make the sick creep some sort of cultural hero and the attempt to make him appear that way just to scrape up another conspiracy theory is pretty sick. He got his own daughters pregnant, folks. Get a grip. If you don't believe that's so, find a book written by survivors other than the ones paid to give quotes to conspiracy authors.

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Drive By Media? Heres Your Ratings, Chief...
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Posted by: kanekoa64 on Apr 30, 2009 6:39 AM   
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Psychologist, heal thyself...
Time slot is set for the demographic the show is aimed at, right?
Fox News is aimed to be on when "Joe" gets up or gets home from plumbing, driving combines, fixing Chevy's and attending Klan meetings.
Being as this demographic watches ONLY Fox News and no other stations, the number is boosted, because normal people watch a variety of news sources, not only when they have an opportunity to watch TV, but also on the web, making it a nearly impossible number of people to tally who DON'T watch Fox in droves, because they don't watch at the same time or the same show. Who knows, maybe even tuning into PBS or "Raymond" reruns.
So sorry to burst your little Fox bubble, but the numbers you suggest only mean the most readily available opportunity and timeslot available to the demographic that actually watches Fox is being used well by the loyal demographic who watches while assumedly polishing their guns and talking in hushed tones about what they'd like to do to that "Nigger President".
Oh, don't think we haven't heard that shit. We know what all this crap really boils down to. RACISM. You forget some of you are our relatives, much to ur chagrin. Check your numbers again and see if Fox's viewer-ship isn't 99.9% caucasian or people who think they are.
And Rupert and crew know it.
They love how greedily you folks lap up every hate filled sentence and carry it like the wind does the reek of an open sewer. They count on your addiction to that slow cooked, down home flavor of race hatred and fear, steeped for generations in the heart of our country, carefully hidden until it can be served up in a new, talky-box format with a big ol' American flag, so you can pretend talking about violent overthrow of a duly elected government and hinted rumors of Presidential assassination is somehow patriotic instead of sick, unpatriotic and un-American. And Disgustingly disloyal to the country you claim to love so much and the other Americans who live in it with you.
You may as well join the Taliban.
May I suggest if Fox and you want to overthrow the government, then put down the flag and GIT OUT, fuckers! You LOSE the right to call yourself an American when you talk treason for no good reason other than heresy, manufactured, bias propaganda and racist conjecture. "Y'all" seem to think we're afraid of your violent tendencies. Your wrong. Personally speaking, I'll fight you tooth and nail before I let my children live in a country you want to turn into a Right Wing, fascist, racist, Nazi-esque nightmare, day-camp wannabe doomed Roman Empire for caucasians only and the people who serve them.
Tooth and nail, to the last man.
HAVE A NICE DAY!

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