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Why Rush Limbaugh Is the Icon of Right-Wing Outrage

By Deepak Chopra, AlterNet. Posted March 9, 2009.


Limbaugh lurks in the shadow of the human psyche, expressing the dark anger, jealousy, and vindictiveness that society can never escape.
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When Michael Steele, the hapless chairman of the Republican Party, lost his bearings and called Rush Limbaugh's style ugly and incendiary, everyone knew it was the truth. But it was a perfect example of an inconvenient truth. The right wing has long used ugly, incendiary speech the way baseball players use steroids: to artificially pump themselves up. Limbaugh has taken to saying that he wants Obama's policies to fail because they spell the end of an America based on personal freedom. This isn't just a grotesque exaggeration; it disguises the very thing the right wing has been doing when it curtailed civil liberties in the name of national security.

Yet I know people who listen to Limbaugh every morning. They don't believe a word he says. They deplore his rhetorical sins. They detect the whiff of hypocrisy. Basically, they tune in out of sheer incredulity.

Limbaugh has been plowing the field of moral outrage for decades, but unlike Billy Sunday and the other hot-headed radio preachers who cashed in on social resentment in the Great Depression, Limbaugh threw out God. With no religious tradition to anchor himself, he can swing wider. Anything Limbaugh judges against is condemned, not by scripture, but simply by him being pissed off. Whatever Limbaugh hates -- however petty, personal, and arbitrary his animus -- is ipso facto wrong.

This represents a huge social shift in American values. Before the '80s there were a handful of right-wing outlets on the air; now there are well over a thousand. They exist purely as steam vents. The common citizen gets to be pissed off by the millions, unrelentingly, without cease or solution, and in return, he is praised. To be outraged is to be morally superior.

The Limbaugh effect fueled the anti-morality of the Bush years. Under ordinary morality, the wretched plight of illegal immigrants, for example, must be considered along with the fact that they are breaking the law. Being poor, illiterate, and desperate, their human condition makes them more sympathetic than ruthless lawbreakers would be. But under anti-morality, if you hate immigrants because they are foreigners who don't look American enough, the argument is over. Your anger strips away tolerance, sympathy, and regard for "the other." Hence the almost imperial bearing of Limbaugh, the bland certainty that because he never stops being angry, he never stops being right.

The same goes for a wide range of "others" who mightily tick off Limbaugh's listeners: Muslims, feminists, people of color, gays, and environmentalists. There's no need to understand them or try and accommodate their views. Just put them through the wringer of Limbaugh's perpetual judgment and, poof, there's no problem anymore. Of course, the whole scheme is delusional. Problems aren't solved by remaining perpetually ticked off. Accords can't be reached when you demonize the other side.

By any sane account, Rush Limbaugh is dead weight when it comes to finding a solution to anything. Like Sarah Palin, his spiritual bride, he lurks in the shadow of the human psyche, expressing the dark anger, resentment, jealousy, and vindictiveness that society can never escape. And yet, the next time you tune into Limbaugh's censorious circus of insensitive scurrility, give him a kind thought. As far back as Mark Twain, the American character has been ornery. We secretly love rascals, bank robbers, tricksters, swindlers, hell raisers, and outlaws. And when we feel so inclined, we laugh at them. Rush Limbaugh may represent a toxic form of entertainment -- and the bile he spews bears no resemblance to true morality -- but the fact that America makes room for him is something to be proud of. I don't pray that he goes away. I pray that we can keep laughing, even if our grin is crooked, at the pranks of the eternal shadow who is our companion for life, whether we want him or not.


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Deepak Chopra is the author of Jesus: A Story of Enlightenment and more than fifty books translated into over thirty-five languages, including other numerous New York Times bestsellers in both the fiction and nonfiction categories.

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Hair club for men...
Posted by: Crazy H on Mar 9, 2009 4:30 PM   
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If Rush loses any more hair, you'll be able to see his circumcision scar.

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No, no, no
Posted by: kcdrew on Mar 9, 2009 6:17 PM   
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No, you can't merely be "entertained" by Rush "Porkulus" Limbaugh. You could, if he weren't any harm to people but hs is and that's the problem. Whet he does to those same illegal immigrants, women, gays and all the rest of us he doesn't like is real damage.

If it were only a joke, it would only be funny and entertainment. He does damage.

And that's not funny.

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Rush Limbaugh on Chocolate News
Posted by: Defenestrator on Mar 9, 2009 6:21 PM   
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Drug addict and former welfare recipient Rush Limbaugh had a Chocolate News segment about him. Frikkin hilarious.

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Love Him or Hate Him
Posted by: limlover on Mar 9, 2009 6:44 PM   
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Love him or hate him, the countdown for Rush Limbaugh as President has begun! www.limbaughclock.com

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Don't even almost care.
Posted by: -matti on Mar 10, 2009 2:43 AM   
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And neither should you.

You all do understand that ANY publicity is good publicity right?

Aren't you tired of having all of your anger stemming from the sytem's built-in flaws and systematic corruption by the wealthy and the militarists focused on one man?

Was eight years of talking about how much you hated Bush -while utterly failing to do anything to stop "him"- really not enough for you?

You really don't see the scam here?

-matti.

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» It's about branding Posted by: Biflspud
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» The Democrats were never themselves ever since 1968. Posted by: LaughingModerateIndependent
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If not Palin, then Limbecile
Posted by: weathered on Mar 10, 2009 3:02 AM   
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they're both empty suits, media gimmicks that keep the audience distracted, don't play into it.
Rome's burning and we're concerned Jennifer might get back w/Brad and what will happen w/Jolie & the kids?

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The pain that lies at the heart of conservatism
Posted by: Perry Logan on Mar 10, 2009 3:17 AM   
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For me, the big guy is an icon of the pain that lies at the heart of conservatism. Ditto Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly and the rest of the gang.

In weighing (so to speak) the cultural importance of people like Rush, we should remember that the public discourse in America is unbelievably tilted to the Right:

The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio

Any progressive knows that our media is lightyears to the right of the populace. We are flooded with right-wing sewage by the second.

Even as the Democrats struggle to repair the staggering damage done by the people behind Rush, he and his ilk continue to lower morale, spread seditious disinformation, and smear the people who are trying to save the republic.

I understand the author's point, but it pains me to hear Rush compared to Mark Twain. Rush is not the healthy vein of curmudgeonry represented by Mark Twain, much less one of our greatest authors. The difference between Twain and Rush is the difference between a national treasure and a pus-filled wound.

In truth, the nation that fought to keep Social Security is not hungry for Rush's style of incontinent slander. Less than half of hate-radio listeners even identify themselves as conservatives. As Deepak says, "they tune in out of sheer incredulity."


The Great Republican Depression

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Does Anybody Else Out There Remember "A Hall of Mirrors?"
Posted by: Jayzer on Mar 10, 2009 3:40 AM   
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Just wondering if anybody else out there remembers the Robert Stone novel "A Hall of Mirrors" or the film version "WUSA?"

My memory on this is a bit foggy, but as I recall it, an itinerant radio personality (portrayed by Paul Newman in the film) who has no real political convictions, per se, becomes a major booster for a right-wing radio station based in New Orleans. Since Stone probably wrote the novel in the 1960s and the film was shot in the early '70s, he obviously predates Limbaugh (though there were certainly other fascistic radio personalities that predate both the film and the book----Paul Harvey and Father Coughlin, just to name two.) and because of this, I simply can't help wonder how much Limbaugh really believes in the manure that he shovels out on a daily basis.

In other words, is it all show biz for him or is he a genuine wannabe demagogue (see also the Andy Griffith character, Lonesome Rhodes, in "A Face in the Crowd" for another cinematic example.) who is set to explode?

Of course, I realize that the "set to explode" part is wishful thinking on my part. Limbaugh has been around for quite a while and my guess is that he's not going away anytime soon, unless he OD's on Oxycontin or pork rinds.

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» The Vic Morrow Scenario Posted by: kegbot1
Scripture can justify anything
Posted by: Lilykins on Mar 10, 2009 5:16 AM   
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"Limbaugh threw out God. With no religious tradition to anchor himself, he can swing wider. Anything Limbaugh judges against is condemned, not by scripture, but simply by him being pissed off."

I grew up in a fundamentalist Christian church...believe me they can condemn ANYTHING based on scriptures. Books like the Bible have been twisted and interpreted in thousands of different ways based on people’s personal opinions. Unlike others who use scripture to condemn whatever angers them, Rush Limbaugh saves himself the effort of having to find specific scriptures to twist around to suit his fancy and just spouts off his opinions. I am sure, if he tried hard enough he could find a way to back up everything he says on scripture. Most likely Rush’s ego is just big enough that he doesn’t believe he needs God to back him up.

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Rush Limbaugh is a Big, Fat, Bloviating Gas Bag
Posted by: Tom Degan on Mar 10, 2009 5:56 AM   
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In a healthy country populated with an intelligent, enlightened citizenry, Rush Limbaugh would today be standing on the bread line - right behind (or perhaps in front of) Sean Hannity, Michael "Savage" Wiener and Ann Coulter. He probably would have ended up as a used car salesman or a clerk in a liquor store. His opinion would not have been taken seriously by anyone except maybe a sympathetic bartender. Some bartenders are pretty good psychologists not to mention being fairly adept at feigning interest in the most boring of topics. There is a gentleman named Bill Vaughan who used to tend bar at the old Orange Inn Tap Room here in Goshen, New York. Heaven knows how many hours the poor guy spent listening to me waxing inebriate on all matter of subjects from the deplorable state of American politics to the age-old question as to who was the funniest of the two: Stan Laurel or Oliver Hardy? I would imagine that in a perfect society, no one other than a patient, world-weary and kindly mixologist would ever have bothered paying any attention to the opinions expressed by the likes of Rush Limbaugh.

His fawning audience of giddy, sycophantic little robots (who cheerfully refer to themselves as "ditto-heads") are spoon-fed a daily diet of ignorance, fear and propaganda under the guise of "excellence in broadcasting". One of the most annoying things about the man is his positively inflated opinion of himself. At the beginning of every broadcast he even compares himself to God, implying that his talent is "on loan" from the Almighty Himself. And he never gets tired of telling his clueless listeners how much power he has. That he has a lot of power and influence cannot be denied, but he never tires of reminding us of this unfortunate fact.

"We need to stop giving them coupons where they can go buy all kinds of junk. We just don't have the money. They're taking out, they put nothing in. And I'm sick and tired of playing the one phony game I've had to play and that is this so-called compassion for the poor. I don't have compassion for the poor."

Rush Limbaugh

"Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth"

Jesus of Nazareth

From all that I have read and watched and listened to, the one common denominator that is shFar Right is that they appeal to the very worst angels of our nature. And quite often, the recipients of their hateful ire are the most helpless among us. For the last thirty years, thanks to the abolition of the Fairness Doctrine, these people have dominated America's national political dialogue. It's high time we take it back, don'cha think?

Rush Limbaugh is not unique to American history. Three quarters of a century ago the opinion media was polluted by the minds of people like Westbrook Pegler, George Sokolsky and Walter Winchell. While they were all able to enjoy great fame and treasure while they were alive, death would find the three of them consigned history's garbage heap, forgotten and disgraced. Indeed, during the thirties and forties Winchell was arguably the most famous man in America. And yet when he died in 1972, the only person who bothered to show up at his funeral was his daughter. Do you remember the name Walter Winchell? Don't feel bad if you don't; not many people do.

Rush Limbaugh, too, will suffer posterity's indifference. Of that you may be completely certain.

Weekend at Franklin's

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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Great Article---But There's More
Posted by: Lilly on Mar 10, 2009 6:09 AM   
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This is the best article I have seen on the subject of what talk radio and Palin are all about because it focuses on rage/outrage. All who listen to Limbaugh et al aren't laughing---millions call him "a great American"---and those who think that Palin should be President aren't joking. There is a vast river of rage running through sunny America, and bathing in that river are a fair number of sadists. Go any day at all to a right-wing website (I keep pushing townhall.com because it's such a great example and, with its Comments thread following every article, offers ample opportunity for discussion and rejoinder). Rightist opinion there is to the point; two days ago townhall carried a post suggesting that all Democrats should be gassed and cremated, and Obama is daily described in racist language that would shock David Duke.

HOWEVER. In recent weeks I am seeing on townhall a new theme in that instead of abstract suggestions about what we SHOULD do (we should collect all immigrants in big trucks and dump them at the border) people are posting reports of what they HAVE DONE, and what they have done is buy more guns. They talk about long lines and empty shelves at gun stores, about burying extra guns in the back yard, about stockpiling hundreds of rounds of ammunition. Their purpose in doing this is stated in terms vague enough that I like to think that they are using guns the way some people took a drink when hearing about the latest doings of Bush II---to calm the anxiety they feel when a government not of their choosing is in power.

It may be that just having guns will be enough, bringing a feeling of "I can stand this as long as I know I have an alternative". But there are enough references to armed resistance to unwanted change, that the possibility of actual killing can't be discounted. Rage is one thing when all it does is give us ulcers or make us write nasty comments on the Internet. It is quite another when it shoots up a church for being "liberal", as happened recently to Tennessee Unitarians who had welcomed gay congregants. The moonshiner who confronts the tax officer with a shotgun is, sort of, an American hero.

Millions of Americans are chronically full of rage. It's a short step to justifying that rage by turning it into a feeling of persecution (I am angry at being denied what I deserve because I am white, Christian, male, etc). And persecution, in turn, justifies aggression (what's being done to me is unfair and I'm not going to take it any more). This puts the aggressor on moral high ground. It is exactly there, on the moral high ground, that such as Limbaugh and Palin do their evil dance, assuring the already rageful that not only is their rage is justified, but that a conduit exists between their rage and something that's happening in reality. Limbaugh is a propagandist, and Palin is a rabble-rouser. Does anyone remember the 1930's in Europe?

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» Well let's be honest Posted by: kegbot1
not only a "steam valve", but an affirming role model for many
Posted by: zooeyhall on Mar 10, 2009 6:22 AM   
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Excellent article! Unlike a similar article a few days earlier on Alternet, this one in a few paragraphs fully exposes the dark things behind Limbaugh.

I live in Nebraska, and this horrible man's voice is blaring from almost every radio you hear. A sad commentary on the people in my state.

I would just like to add one other observation. This thoroughly unpleasant man is not just a "steam valve" for so many other's frustration. He is also a role model for many others out there--reaffirming their own ruthlessness and harshness. I see it in so many managers, CEOs, and others. This is the worst legacy of the guy.

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"Entertainer" Was being Kind and Generous
Posted by: Purple Girl on Mar 10, 2009 6:37 AM   
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Rush is no different than Howard Sterne.Except Howard has a real sense of Humor and recognizes the obsurity of much of what he says..He's a 'Shock Jock', Nothing more.
Rush is so delusional he thinks his 'ratings' indicate the number of people who agree with him- nope just Rubbernecking, like any horrendous accident which peeks our morbid curiosity. Of course the Repugs are Sooo easily misled (or Desperate), they are willing to accept Rush's unfounded claims.Repugs, esp their own 'leadership' are like baby birds- waiting for some pre chewed and regurgitated morsel to be spit out for their consumption.
Reason Dems are calling out Obama nearly every step of the way, is that we have no intentions of being blind followers again. the Clintons smacked off those rose colored Glasses long ago.But apparently the Repugs are literally insane,Nixon was clinically paranoid, Ronny had Alzheimers, HW is a spineless pussy, W has alcohol/Drug induced brain damage, McCain is a passive aggressive schizophrenic... So why should we be surprised they are now following a man with Mad Cow Disease.

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the morning Hate
Posted by: social democract on Mar 10, 2009 6:43 AM   
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Listening to Limbaugh is the equivalent of George Orwell's Daily Group Hate. It accomplishes nothing except to keep the "base" too agitated to notice how they're being screwed, but not agitated enough to do anything constructive.

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Progressives need to offer an alternative to Rush
Posted by: frantic1971 on Mar 10, 2009 7:07 AM   
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We need to offer a viable alternative to Mr. Limbaugh. Rather then just sputtering--as many posters here--that his listeners are "idiots", "racists", "hicks", "right-wingers", etc.

I know many people who listen to him,and these people are not evil. They are just ordinary folks who are concerned about their jobs and their precarious economic situation. So when when Rush rants against illegal aliens, they are going to agree with him. Because the Progressives merely scold him on how he needs to be more tolerant and willing to share (or give up) his job to someone who broke the law to enter this country.

Like it or not, the stark fact is that Limbaugh has definitely had success, and that millions of people listen to him faithfully. And I submit that this is due almost as much to a failure of the Left as it is to whatever dubious "gifts" that Rush has. We (Progressives) cannot just fallback on condemning all these people with smears and our own prejudices. Somehow we need to recognize WHY it is that the right-wing radio and websites are attracting so many. We need to offer an alternative.

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» EXACTLY ! THANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! :) Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
» I tried Posted by: kegbot1
Hate is Poison
Posted by: WyrdSister on Mar 10, 2009 7:11 AM   
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how someone can live with that much hate is beyond me. how can people listen to it and not be physically sick?

we have a morning radio personality here in minneapolis who's show is filled with him whining, complaining and spewing negativity. I couldnt listen anymore as it would fill the rest of my day with negativity. WHO would want to feel that way all day?!

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Rush is another victim of the drug war
Posted by: kettleblack on Mar 10, 2009 7:11 AM   
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He got addicted to Oxycontin, an opium-based pharmaceutical drug.
A lot of other people have, too.
Maybe we should take Tommy Chong's advice, and offer the poor rich guy a doobie.
Maybe it might help his anger and rage.
Nothing else seems to work!

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» You can thank Purdue Pharma Posted by: weathered
Richard Viguerie has the answer
Posted by: sausage on Mar 10, 2009 7:20 AM   
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Email newsletter from Richard "funding father of modern conservatism" Viguerie:
Viguerie: "Rushification" is inevitable result of GOP leaders' incompetence


Manassas, VA – Broadcasters and commentators such as Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin, Glenn Beck and Michael Savage are seen as the de facto leaders of the Republican Party for a simple reason, Richard A. Viguerie said today: "It's because no one else is acting like a Republican leader."

"The 'Rushification' of the GOP is the natural and inevitable result of the fact that those who are supposed to provide leadership – Republican elected officials and party officers – are doing little to bring the party back," said Viguerie, chairman of ConservativeHQ.com.

"Nature abhors a vacuum, and there is no vacuum in nature as empty as the leadership of the Republican Party today."

Said Viguerie: "The GOP absolutely refuses to replace the Congressional leaders who helped get the party and the country into this mess. There are many Republican governors campaigning for the Obama 'stimulus' plan that is wrecking the economy and will push America deeper into socialism. Governor Jindal's speech was technocratic, without passion and toothless, and Michael Steele's foolish attack on Rush Limbaugh will, I'm sure, cost the party many millions in contributions."

The anger of grassroots conservatives continues unabated at the weak-kneed, spineless, earmark –loving Republicans.

In contrast to GOP officials, "Limbaugh and Hannity and most all of their conservative colleagues have something to say. They actually believe in something. They have the confidence of their convictions. They don't cower in fear of the President's popularity. They know that his popularity is built on the sand of false promises and false premises. Like Ronald Reagan facing the Soviet Union, they know how this story ends."

Even Jim Cramer of CNBC, who isn't a conservative, is providing more honest and outspoken leadership than the 'loyal opposition' about how Obama's policies are destroying the life savings of Americans.

"Americans are already beginning to realize that the new president is every bit as reckless and extreme as conservatives said he was," Viguerie said. "But the Republican Party can't get any traction, because the party leadership is as confused and clueless as the Obama administration."


Well, there you have it. An alpha-dog wing nut telling it as he sees it. Boehner's flaccid, McConnell's in his shell, Schwarzenegger's a girly-man and Charlie Crist's a closet Obama sycophant! So who could be lurking in the wings to lead the GOP back to political dominance?

Could it be Newt Gingrich?

Newtie's got a Web site up Newt.org with a "real" catchy slogan, Real Change Requires Real Change". Oh, that Newt's a clever one.

But wait! All's not well in Wingnutland.

Read the comments at Newtie's Web site http://newt.org following a March 9, '09 Washington Times news story, headlined "Gingrich: Rush Flap Contrived," in which the former House Speaker says ...Rush Limbaugh is not the Republican Party's leader[.] It's good for a laugh.

The GOP's f*cked.

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Forget about Rush Limbaugh. Fix your DYSFUNCTIONAL Democratic Party or else you can
Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield on Mar 10, 2009 7:25 AM   
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forget seeing your party in control by 2010 or even relevance by 2012 !

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» RE: Well it's not going to be the GOP... Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
» Who is Rush Limbaugh? Posted by: mdarlinggg
A segment of our society craves him
Posted by: j9guy on Mar 10, 2009 7:30 AM   
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What we need to face is that there is a segment of our society that craves to be abused and see others abused. We love to see human indignity, violence and abuse. If not why would shows like Jerry Springer still be on the air? And now we have humans going into the ring and trying to kill each other with their bare hands, almost no rules. This is not like wrestling, which is well scripted, and so stupid its amazing they can attract the crowds they do. But this is his audience. Why? These are the same people that loved Sarah Palen and Joe the Plumber. The Republicans via Rush and Carl Rove are exploiting the ignorance of our society and unfortunately there are a lot of them.

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Not Again...UGH!
Posted by: Nodarse on Mar 10, 2009 8:11 AM   
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Why do we keep taking the “Limbaugh” bait?

Nothing winds us tighter than spewing clever Rush put-downs. This nonsense over a radio show only serves to distract us from more important issues. Don’t you think our time would better served discussing:

1. WHY WE’RE STILL IN IRAQ!
2. How it’s possible for Jet Fuel to melt 3 skyscrapers in a matter of hours?
3. Why am I still freezing my ass off every winter if the Earth is getting hotter?

I’m sure many of you can come up with a few more suggestions. So let’s cut the crap and get back to real issues. Unless Limbaugh is elected to some office, he can’t take away our freedoms, or deport a single migrant worker.

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The Problem
Posted by: US Citizen on Mar 10, 2009 8:34 AM   
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The problem is that when all these people listen to Pork Limbaugh spew his nasty and mean stuff, all these pig lovers go around being nasty to their neighbors and the people around them.

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No, I want Rush to go away.
Posted by: MobileSucks on Mar 10, 2009 10:00 AM   
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Actually the goal should be to destroy Rush and just about all he represents. This is the problem with liberals and their "tolerance" bullshit. The rightwing spits in your face, ruins your country...

A pig like Limbaugh we should celebrate because he's just so American, the big ole rascal, lying to millions of ignorant blue collar workers, manipulating the masses, helping to make America even more misguided and crazy? I think not.

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Rush - The Dark Canary?
Posted by: jlowelld on Mar 10, 2009 10:22 AM   
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I very good analysis of Mr. Limbaugh's metaphoric meaning to the American psyche. The hypocrisy, the lack of self-reflection; the raw, undirected anger; the almost child-like frustration--even the mindless following described as 'ditto-heads', is the perfect reflection of the sense of estrangement and disenfranchisement that is felt by a large, often uneducated sector of American culture. This is the voice of powerlessness. The irony is that Mr. Limbaugh is part of the elite class whose economic oppression is the cause of the 'underclass' disenfranchisement. The ability of the conservatives to co opt the working-class is in part a result of the diminished role of unions, which used to educate the worker and also provide a voice in order to express grievances as well as a solidarity that in turn reduced the sense of powerlessness (this is a gross over simplification...Deepak's explanation goes to the real core of the issue). In a sense we as a culture need the dark-side of the psyche exposed--it is the barometer by which we measure our progress: it is our state of enlightenment that will keep us from Rushing to the dark-side.

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» RE: ush - The Dark Canary? Posted by: peacefullaim1
Beware the power
Posted by: willymack on Mar 10, 2009 10:28 AM   
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Of stupid people in large numbers. I can't remember the name of the wit who coined that admonition, but it's certainly appropriate here. Where else in the world are there so many people who are so ignorant, and distainful of those who ARE intelligent and educated? We've done our nation a terrible disservice by allowing our public schools to dissolve into political acrimony and acedemic decay. The results are all around us in the persons of those who STILL think the bush crime family was a good thing for our country, as well as the devotees to fatheads such as Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Palin, and the like.President Obama made the announcment this morning that we can't go on as before with substandard schools, teachers, and administrators. This sounds encouraging, and I hope something good comes from it.

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If it had not been for conservative talk radio
Posted by: progunprogressive on Mar 10, 2009 10:41 AM   
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how many millions of illegal immigrants would have been given citizenship? Both dems and repubs supported it, and it almost was pushed through congress before anyone knew about it. Again both parties prove they are really no different, both willing to screw the citizens they represent. I first heard about it on talk radio: Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck. The outrage of the american people actually accomplished something.

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The observer
Posted by: davy on Mar 10, 2009 10:58 AM   
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A very good point. EXACTLY !

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I hear this argument all the time...
Posted by: maddy on Mar 10, 2009 11:03 AM   
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I hear this argument all the time, also in reference to Bill O'Reilly--that they are "funny" to listen to and that tolerant liberals listen to him just for kicks.

I envy people who feel that way, cuz it tells me that they've never lived with or been raised by men who think like Limbaugh and O'Reilly. These men are driven by an unchecked and all-consuming rage and they are convinced that they are victimized by everyone and everything who isn't like them or doesn't worship them. Up close and personal they are not the funny release valve you've imagined them to be. To be raised by men who think like them is to be imprisoned--just imagine how that abuse gets inflicted on the women and children in the home, for starters...

Every.
Single.
Day.

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If not Sarah Palin or Bill O'LIEly, then Limbaugh. Just leave them alone already.
Posted by: CarlaWaters on Mar 10, 2009 1:11 PM   
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They're only there because of our failure to unite and fix this mess. Back during the Great Depression days, people would unite against this madness. Stop venting and join us in trying to fix the problem. Good gawd !

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Seems many on here are biast
Posted by: progunprogressive on Mar 10, 2009 1:22 PM   
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against conservative talk radio. I disagree with Limbaugh as much as I agree with him. Glenn Beck seems more moderate to me than the other two. But i do hear Limbaugh say things that make sense. As in the free citizenship for illegals. Also, he is totally against the stimulus. Now I read articles on Alternet that condemn the stimulus packages; money going to the very people that got our country in this mess. Yet when Limbaugh says he wants these socialist policies to fail he is condemned. Then his words are twisted and he is quoted as saying he wants Obama to fail. You are free to disagree with the guy. Why all of the hate?

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Remember people, Rush has a ready audience
Posted by: Kym525 on Mar 10, 2009 2:42 PM   
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There's no way a corpulent gas-bag like Rush Limbaugh could have become so powerful unless there were people out there willing to listen and believe everything that comes out of that foul cavern called his mouth. He didn't create this audience--they were already out there.

I've said for years that Limbaugh tapped into that very conservative and racist constituency with their irrational fears of change. And that's the key--FEAR.

These people grew up on tales when being white--especially a white male meant unchecked power and privilege. Even a lower-class, uneducated white man was still considered better than the most educated black, asian, latino or woman. They grew up knowing what their place was in this country and were comfortable with simplistic answers to complex questions. The world that Limbaugh, Hannity and other so-called "conservatives" want to return this country to only existed on a television show called 'Leave it to Beaver'. For working-class folks and minorities, the past wasn't quite so idyllic.

Limbaugh's audience are the people who've never made peace with civil rights, women's rights and gay rights. Now they live with economic uncertainty--created by the former Bush regime--and yet Rush gives them easy villains to blame their woes on--just pick your hated group du jour and fill in the blank.

Ironically, Limbaugh has obviously studied Adolf Hitler's rise to power and he's using the exact same tactics to hijack the Republican chickenshits who are too frightened of his Brownshirts (oops, I meant "dittoheads") to send Rush packing.

Just like post WWI Germany, we didn't put a stop to Limbaugh when he was still a relatively unknown blowhard because just as Hitler went after Jews (feeding into much of the European anti-semitism that was still fashionable) Limbaugh was just insulting blacks, feminists, gays and other groups we don't give that much of a damn about. It was all about the First Amendment, even though nowhere in the First Amendment does it say that we have to accept hate speech without rebuttal. Sure, some liberals tried to fight Limbaugh with facts and the truth, but Limbaugh could have cared less. For him and his audience, a well-crafted lie with doctored statistics is far more believable. Remember, Limbaugh's audience still thinks that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. We're not talking a bunch of rocket scientists here.

So now, can we put a halt to the Limbaugh juggernaut? Of course, but it's going to take a steady resolve not to engage his ignorance. Hit 'em in the old pocketbook. Any company that sponsors his broadcasts, boycott them. Anytime he says something stupid (that's everyday), blog the hell out of it and make him look even more insane. Challenge Michael Steele to be a man and take back the party leadership. Yes, Limbaugh will bitch and moan and wrap himself up in the flag of free speech, but free speech also means that the public can use their collective buying power to shut him down.

Limbaugh won't go away permanently because he'll always have an audience--but the trick is to take away his power. That will hurt BIG time.

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Rush is becoming the best thing for the Republicans
Posted by: reelectnoone on Mar 10, 2009 3:22 PM   
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Thank you Rush ! I want to see YOU fail along with the bought and paid for Republicans you love so much.

Thankfully you are on the track to helping this come to pass by exposing the truth of republican's erratic, loud, self-centered, racist, uneducated and outright hateful thought process.

Republicans = Lex Luthor
Democrats = Superman
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Rush has been that way for 20 years so what's new and why no moderate or independent talk show?
Posted by: LaughingModerateIndependent on Mar 10, 2009 5:45 PM   
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If we really wanted to make Rush go away, censoring him is not the answer but paying attention to getting the Progressives, Moderates, Liberals, Independents, and even some reasonable Conservatives together would heal the divisions folks like Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc ... are tearing this nation apart with.

I would also like to ask if I may. Why isn't there a moderate or independent talk show out there? Why does it have to be just liberal vs conservative? It's bad enough politicians and the media create this insane Democrats vs Republicans with very little room for others to voice their opinions. Do we have to allow this to spill onto tv, radio, and the internet?

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We can escape this
Posted by: SalB on Mar 10, 2009 8:07 PM   
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that we can't reach perfection shouldn't stop us from trying to make a better society... This will go away, and it has been going away. Take a step back, breathe, and get back to work. We need your assitance.

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Embeds
Posted by: talkville on Mar 11, 2009 2:51 AM   
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It seems that Psyche is becoming over-populated with all kinds of Figures.

Personifying mental and psychological processes in no way leads to any understanding of the profoundly reactionary epoch we've been experiencing in our social relations since the Kulturkampfers launched their War way back in those days of the '70's and '80's. We are by all evidences in a great Epoch of Un-Reason, of Anti-Reason and of sheer lunacy!! My psyche, it seems, is populated by all sorts of people from one side of the spectrum to the other, "lurking in dark and shadowy places" and such. Wow! Now that helps!! Now I know what brings about such social, political and econimic individuals such as Limbaugh, Palin and others and how they affect our social relations in positive or negative ways. It's all so clear now! If I can only get a flash-light from Deepak now and shine a little light on this Rush that's in my psyche, I guess everything will be ok, exploitation will stop and everyone in this society I'm a part of will be ever so happy and content!

It's hard to understand how mystifying psychological and mental and emotional processes and responses is going to help making the profoundly reactionary condition of our society any more advanced.

Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin and Deepak himself are simply individual members of our social order, just like I am.

They're out there, not in here.

When one human, or a group of humans make the claim that they have the right to decide and dispose of you in any way that they choose, there's no telling what kind of responses and expressions and actions might be forthcoming -- or what platforms and amplification means they might have available.

But there aren't any Little People in my psyche, which is an aspect of my bodily functions. Rush is simply a demagogue and has his followers and converts. There are many such individuals in our society and they cover all social, cultural, political and economic tendencies. For myself, when they knock at the door, I seldom if ever invite them in.

But embedding personifications and figures into our responses to conditions is little if any gain at all.

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1 in 4 - Never lose sight of the 21 to 29%
Posted by: Cosmic Surfer on Mar 11, 2009 4:51 AM   
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Much discussion of the disenfranchised fringe but NEVER forget that 1 in 4 people YOU meet on the street is pro-Bush; Never forget that 13-20 million (at least Rush says it's 20 million plus) are Rushian brain trusts. They are bitter, angry and they are an overly vocal lot that have bought the BS spewed by the ultra-wrong bigots and the that will SAY anything, think we are all stupid and when all else fails, blame a Democrat, specifically Clinton and Obama.
It doesn't matter which as long as it fits the argument to make their base base dance and dance they do. They are dancing with more hate and anger than ever.
MORE hate crimes are committed, more rants calling for the death and destruction if anyone or anything outside of their beloved fantasy of the black and white, Flat, safe world of the fantasy spin machine

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» RE: Speaking of talking out of your ass Posted by: progunprogressive
LIBERAL BALONEY
Posted by: reelman on Mar 11, 2009 4:50 PM   
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Self-made man who can't be bought and is not PC...a real crybaby event for the modern liberal...you had Air America and other hateful profane failures...so ha, ha.
Now the nation has a full 90 minute CPAC video without twisted bites by the liberal media that changes democrat diapers...
And the leader of the Democrat Party is??? A man who was abandoned by his black father, raised and spoiled by white liberals...has zip management experience (its been showing), is a serial liar (earmarks, hirign lobbyists for starters)...have you not a moelcule of common sense?
A President and his staff are wasting time on a talk show host. you make me laugh...Did Bush waste a second on Air(HEAD) America?
As usual, democrats have no class and no taste..just the same ols Carter-isms...did I mention YOU are 3 trillion in debt? Ya wanted change, check your IRA, ya got it...suckers.

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Anyone else ever wonder...
Posted by: goodyweaver on Mar 11, 2009 8:00 PM   
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...if Cartman on South Park was based on Rush?

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Rush Limbaugh Drives the GOP Bus
Posted by: jimswanson on Mar 13, 2009 3:24 PM   
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“A black man voting for the Republicans makes about as much sense as a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.”

-- These words of wisdom are from the father of J. C. Watts, the former Republican Representative (1995-2003) from Oklahoma who was then the only black GOP member of Congress.

The GOP picked Michael Steele to chair the RNC because of the color of his skin, not for his counsel.

Mr. Steele, shame on you for speaking up about Limbaugh, and then backing down. You should now quietly move to the back of the GOP bus.

You can sit next to Bobby Jindal.

Rush Limbaugh will drive you both in the “right” direction, right off the cliff.

For serious commentary on deadly serious issues (with generous doses of humor), you can now download for FREE the entire $25.95 book, "The Bush League of Nations: The Coalition of the Unwilling, the Bullied and the Bribed – the GOP’s War on Iraq and America," by James A. Swanson (2008, CreateSpace Publishing, 448 pages). www.bushleagueofnations.com.

I ask for nothing in return, except that you consider using my free book as a resource to help restore and build America. And, if you’re so inclined, please pass along the good word. I’d appreciate that.

James A. Swanson, Los Altos, CA
“The Bush League of Nations” [for FREE download of entire $25.95 book]

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