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The Corporate Media Is Shamelessly Pretending Racism Died When Obama Got Elected
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There were early indications that corporate media coverage of Barack Obama’s candidacy would be squirm-inducing, putting on display the elite (mainly white) press corps’ murky ideas about race much more than any straightforward reckoning of black Americans’ situation or what an Obama presidency might mean for their concerns.
Journalists were sometimes embarrassingly frank about how they interpreted Obama’s blackness and what they hoped his success might mean. “No history of Jim Crow, no history of anger, no history of slavery,” declared NBC’s Chris Matthews (1/21/07). “All the bad stuff in our history ain’t there with this guy.” “For many white Americans, it’s a twofer,” opined the New Republic (2/5/07). “Elect Obama, and you not only dethrone George W. Bush, you dethrone [Al] Sharpton, too.” (See Extra!, 3–4/07.)
Looking to find parallels for the “stuff” they did like, journalists turned to fiction, as when Jonathan Alter (Newsweek, 10/27/08) alleged that voters “decided they liked Obama when he reminded them more of Will Smith than Jesse Jackson,” or when CNN (6/22/08) told viewers that Michelle Obama “wants to appear to be Claire Huxtable and not Angela Davis.”
The fondest hope seemed to be that an Obama victory (if not his strong candidacy alone) would absolve us of any need to talk about racism any more. Newsweek’s Howard Fineman (5/14/08) wrote that, in announcing his run for office, Obama was making a statement: that his candidacy would be the exclamation point at the end of our four-century-long argument over the role of African-Americans in our society. By electing a mixed-race man of evident brilliance, moderate mien and welcoming smile, we would finally cease seeing each other through color-coded eyes.
It’s not clear if Fineman meant Obama said that exactly, or if it was just implied by the way he “radiat[ed] uplift and glorious possibility.” Alas, he continued: “Well, that argument did not end. He and we were naive to think it would.”
Of course, “we” didn’t all imagine that a nonwhite man running for president would mean an end to racism; that belief seems endemic only in a press corps with a myopic understanding of how racial inequality works.
Thus Fineman lamented, “far from eliminating racial thinking from politics,” Obama’s campaign actually drew attention to the subject—in part because Obama let the Finemans of the world down by having a “message” that was “race-aware, if not race-based.”
Fineman, like many pundits, seemed to think that acknowledging the distinct experiences faced by people of color is tantamount to claiming these differences trump all other factors in life. Talking about race equals harping about race, and, well, that’s being racist, isn’t it? The goal is to be “post- racial,” which seems to mean maintaining that racial differences have no impact, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
For some, last November 4 saw the disappearance of racial inequity in America (“Promised Land: Obama’s Rise Fulfills King’s Dream”—Oklahoman headline, 1/19/09), and with it the need for any countervailing measures.
Conservative columnist Jonah Goldberg (Chicago Tribune, 1/22/09) suggested that “opponents of racial quotas and other champions of colorblindness on the right should be popping champagne,” not to mention “rubbing Barack Obama in [the] faces” of all those foreign “finger-waggers eager to lecture . . . America about race and tolerance.”
For those who don’t see racial inequity playing out every day in disparate joblessness, incarceration or mortality rates, the presence of a brown-skinned man in the White House means there’s no more structural work to be done; those struggling from now on have no excuse.
At the very least, the black guy winning proved that there are no more voting rights concerns. USA Today (1/9/09) wondered whether the whole Voting Rights Act should be junked “now that a black man has won the presidency.” And for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Jim Wooten (1/20/09), the Obama victory “plainly” meant that “the political system that discriminated and the people who designed it are dead and gone.”
The Obama victory was credited with the existence of a demographic of “successful” blacks, as illustrated by a magazine (Uptown) that launched in 2004 (“Magazine for Age of Obama,” New York Daily News, 1/19/09). And the hiring of an African-American to coach the Yale football team was “particularly significant in light of both the election of Obama as the nation’s first black president and in the consistently meager numbers of black head coaches at the top level of college football,” according to the New York Times (1/8/09)—though the particular relevance of the former is kind of hard to figure.
If being “post-racial” involves pretending race/ethnicity doesn’t affect opportunity, acting “post-racial” means renouncing any measure aimed at ensuring that. Post-election, Obama was called upon to follow through on his “promise” in this regard in early decisions on appointments and policy.
The New York Times (1/15/09) gave the New Republic’s Jeffrey Rosen space to put some questions to new attorney general Eric Holder, including: “Do you agree with Mr. Obama’s implication that the Supreme Court needs someone who will side with the powerless rather than the powerful? What if the best nominee happens to be a white male?”
The L.A. Times editorial page (12/28/08) lauded Obama’s cabinet picks, in so doing matter-of-factly contrasting the hiring goals of “quality” and “identity politics”—in this context meaning the hiring of anyone who is not a white man; Obama, it declared, “has succeeded on both levels.”
Obama could also prove himself to be the right sort of black leader—the kind who places responsibility for black people’s problems largely with black people themselves—with an embrace of the Bush administration’s No Child Left Behind law. USA Today (1/6/09) draped the case in appropriately patronizing tones with the cringe-worthy “How to Turn Obama’s Success Into Gains for Black Boys”:
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Feb 28, 2009 12:48 AM
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I live in the sunbelt- a.k.a. the south and can tell you that racism is alive and well. My state, despite having a (nominally) Democratic Governor and 2 (nominally) Democratic Senators actually voted MORE Republican in 2008 than in 2004 or 2000. My Congressman also a nominal Democrat along with the Governor and our Senators are 'Blue Ticks', also known as D.I.N.O.s (Democrats in name only).
I would love to live in a colorblind America just as I would like to live in a country with Universal Healthcare. I just don't see it in my daily interactions with the public here at home and when I travel around. Maybe in the highly multicultural areas of the country things are more colorblind, but not in the bulk of our nation. Sad, but true.
McCain's train-wreck campaign, NeoCon shift in the primaries and the financial implosion during the fall all but handed the election to whatever Democrat got the nomination. Considering all this, his margin of victory isn't that impressive. Beauregard the Wonder Dog or Triumph the Comic Insult Dog could have beaten McSame.
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Posted by: Dboy on Feb 28, 2009 1:27 AM
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Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Feb 28, 2009 2:42 AM
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At the very least, they will lose their jobs. We can start making bets about which of them will go to jail.
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Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Feb 28, 2009 5:23 AM
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Can a humiliating smackdown be far behind?
FREE AMERICA
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Posted by: ellie on Feb 28, 2009 5:50 AM
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but what we are seeing around here is more acceptance of black americans and less tolerance of other ethnic groups overall...
outright racism is just changing to other melanin hues... sadly...
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Posted by: donya_f on Feb 28, 2009 6:01 AM
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Posted by: Tim V on Feb 28, 2009 6:16 AM
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I often overhear racist comments when talking among a significant number of fellow white people.
Also, there is still the issue of a wealth gap due to past racism: BECAUSE their parents/ grandparents/ancestors were subjected to open/legal discrimination, most afro-americans in the US have inherited less wealth than they otherwise would have.
Obama's election, however, is at least a symbolic victory over racism.
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Posted by: QQOblivion on Feb 28, 2009 7:18 AM
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The Obama administration will likely BOYCOTT a major racism conference at the UN.
Why? Because a draft outcome document for the conference dares to criticize Israel's very real racism against the Palestinians! (The draft specifically mentions Zionism as being racist, and it IS racist.)
Israel, I remind you, has only since moved MUCH FURTHER to the right than where it was when it recently committed massive war-crimes against the Palestinians.
As I said before, NO MATTER WHAT Israel does that is right-wing Fascist evil, the US government will give the Israeli government 100% of our support.
And, oh yeah, the US also will boycott the conference because we oppose paying ANY reparations for the slavery of African-Americans. But the big issue for the Obama administration seems to be the conference's "anti-Israel bias".
Shame on you, Obama. -- If you are not part of the solution against racism, then YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 28, 2009 7:31 AM
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Posted by: sailor50 on Feb 28, 2009 7:32 AM
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I am a white person who has been outraged for years that my fellow whites think it's OK to treat blacks as sub-human, while never ever acknowledging or appreciating their military service to this country.
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Posted by: Bob Graham Las Vegas on Feb 28, 2009 8:59 AM
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Posted by: Sushi on Feb 28, 2009 9:21 AM
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I have to wonder how much of the Dittoheads 'call for Obama's failure' revolves around the threat that their philosophies will be ultimately shown for what they are...a hate-group of losers with big mouths.
Despite all their rantings and projections of the doom of mankind and life as we know it, that race, sex, height, looks, income does not define who we are as humans. We do that with how we conduct ourselves, our intellect, our dignity, our motives, our respect and empathy for others.
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"People in the wrong talk louder than everyone else."
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Feb 28, 2009 10:22 AM
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Posted by: Zeugitai on Feb 28, 2009 12:03 PM
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Not only do "The elite white press corps ha[ve] a myopic understanding of how racial inequality works," but everyone does. It is another one of those phenomena that emerge from brain functioning while simultaneously being rationalized in higher order consciousness. That is to say, virtually everyone is a racist by virtue of having a human brain while virtually everyone denies that they are racist for the sake of political correctness. It is structural hypocrisy. Conscious rationalizations cannot alter structural functioning. People are racist in their fiber. Of course, there are ideologies that cope with and deny racsim, but they only work when no "perturbations" occur. When the chips are down, the values and conceptualizations that were built in the mind by a structural racist bias will determine behavior. There is no pill to take for it.
It seems all or most of "our" problems come from reading and listening to the so-called pundits. Boycott them all. Let them rot. The Internet embodies the potential to render them all obsolete. Put them out on the street where they belong. Bring down all ivory towers. The paradigm of masses of ignorant people craning their necks to look up to these mouthpieces needs badly to be trashed.
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Posted by: yellow on Feb 28, 2009 12:14 PM
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In 1964, despite nearly 5% average annual GDP growth rates, the poverty rate in the US was about 20%. Black poverty accounted for most of it despite the fact that at the time Blacks were only about 10% of the US population. This situation has changed. According to a 2002 US Census Report the US Black Community accounted for about $800 billion in purchasing power making them the world's 16th largest economy. Black businesses, numbering 1.2 million earned nearly $88 billion in revenues. Blacks began to reach their population proportion in many professions as well such as law, medicine and business. The civil rights era had accomplished much.
Still there were racial gaps in wealth, income, net worth, unemployment and other social indices. The point is that the rate of progress was rapid and took place at a time when the challenges posed by a stagnant economy that was quickly losing high paying manufacturing jobs and cutting government budgets made it less likely. The reason, however, is no mystery. Institutionalized racism, the likes of which existed before 1964, can no longer be tolerated. Not only is it not acceptable to civilized people, it is an obsticle to progress. Late capitalism cannot function as a stable and sustainable system under such circumstances. Racism becomes an impediment to the ongoing functioning of capitalism itself.
It must be recalled that multicultural societies was not a liberal idea that emerged willy nilly from the academy; it was a historic trend driven by the process of capital accumulation itself. Beginning 200 hundred years ago, with the onset of industrial capitalism, massive waves of rural to urban migration were followed by long periods of cross border labor migration which crowded together in large cities, all over the capitalist world, diverse racial, cultural and ethnic groups. This process was driven by capitalism's historic drive to concentrate capital investment and production. It was, in essence, a product of capital's historic laws of motion. By the same token, racism in US society is destabilizing and unsustainable. It creates chaos and disruption and thus finds no support among the majority of people.
I would like to conclude by saying that the most salient divide in US society is class and not race. The current crisis will probably not change this fact. Surely, racial animosities still exist. But there is a vast difference in saying that there are still vestiges of racism contained in US society and saying that US society is itself racist. We must all learn the difference.
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Posted by: 2thepoint on Feb 28, 2009 2:01 PM
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Racism = $$$$$$$
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Posted by: Kati on Feb 28, 2009 3:35 PM
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Oh where to begin responding to Yellow's post (above)? How about the classic definition of racism: “racism is the attribution of intellectual and moral characteristics to real or imagined physical traits.”
This certainly still goes on in our society (as a poster in this thread noted, if Obama wasn’t president but just a black guy in a nice suit, he’d still have problems getting a cab) and it sets a blueprint for the discrimination and oppression of any “real or imagined” group. Classism too exists in that framework. Just watch tv or read other media and count the ways classism is conflated with some imaginary physical difference. Since I live in a mobile home I am particularly sensitive to all the talk about “trailer trash” coming out of the mouths of people who think of themselves as liberal. Calling a person "trash" has extreme embodied/physical connotations. Classism takes its cue from racism but it is even more invisible in our society. Class and imaginary racial identity (for African Americans it’s still the “one drop rule” from the days of slavery) become embodied in the image we make of ourselves and others.
Racism is not rational and people are not basing their racist actions or inactions on what might be good for capitalism. I would suggest you do a bit of empirical research to validate your theories, but this would require giving up on the image you seem to have of capitalism as a sort of disembodied engine functioning on its own steam (are you a Hegelian per chance?). Capitalism is one among the ways human beings have organized (at times coercively) their economic activities. But no matter how many layers of illusion our economic ideologues have created, the fact remains that ultimately we derive our living from nature and not from an abstracted system.
Well it would be easy to rebut your argument that racism is not rational and thus most people are not racist. Since when have most human beings behaved rationally? But the rational does have a place when it comes to the fostering of racism and classism: a society such as ours where the gaps between the haves and the have not, between the lionized and the stigmatized, keep on growing, pitting underdogs against each others rather than against the people at the top is indeed a rational practice. Look at the blaming of Hispanics (who are now all viewed as "illegals" by a sizeable portion of Americans) for the economic troubles our financiers class has put us in. It is well known that poor whites in the South (“white trash”) were the most strident in violently enforcing a racist code of behavior. As long as they looked downwards or sideways they didn’t present a danger to the upper class. Isn’t it striking that it is mostly the poorest states that voted against Obama even though a large portion of their people are most in need of the reforms promised by a Democratic administration....
So yes, we still live in a racist/classist society, but there's hope....
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Posted by: stellabloo on Feb 28, 2009 4:04 PM
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White House Watermelon Email From California Mayor Inspires Outrage
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Mar 1, 2009 3:11 AM
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As you know, the Repubs do everything they can suppress the black vote and undermine black voters, using every dirty trick in the book. They do this because they wouldn't last five minutes if they didn't.
And now they lose anyway.
In any case, since racism is integral to the structure of the Republican Party, it is also integral to our political system and our government. A country just doesn't get any more racist than that.
The silver lining are the American voters, who managed to overwhelm all the vote suppression, vote caging, vote intimidation, and vote-flipping, to win a massive victory against racism.
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Posted by: Sinibaldi on Mar 1, 2009 6:49 AM
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my heart, there's
a delicate
sorrow; outside
a melancholy tries
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sound of a
manner that
now disappears,
while a young
bird escapes.....
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Posted by: westomoon on Mar 1, 2009 12:23 PM
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I'd also like to point out that Obama's famous Philadelphia speech on race during the Democratic primary happened in response to the Clinton campaign unleashing the dogs of racism as part of their "kitchen sink strategy". When Bill Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro are comfortable encouraging racism in the Democratic electorate for political gain -- no, we are definitely not in the "post-racial America" the pundits have been trying to hail. But I do enjoy the new smooth, grammatical Al Sharpton.2...
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Posted by: Quannah on Mar 1, 2009 12:25 PM
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In Los Angeles, Tavis Smiley held his State of the Black Union 2009. Among the speakers were Danny Glover, Nikki Giovanni, Na′im Akbar, Michael Eric Dyson, Lani Guinier, Jesse L. Jackson, Sr., Danny Bakewell, Sr., Jawanza Kunjufu, Les Brown, Charles Ogletree, Randall Robinson, Iyanla Vanzant, Julianne Malveaux, Maxine Waters, Earvin “Magic” Johnson, and Cornel West, Arlene Holt Baker, Karen Bass, Peter Harvey, Van Jones, Erica Williams, Emilie Townes, and Marc Morial.
It was aired on CSPAN. No other takers.
(And, by the way AlterNet -- where is YOUR coverage of that event?)
On CNN and Faux? The hate-mongering Rush Limbaugh gets an hour and a half -- LIVE -- to spew his special message of hate and vitriol from the CPAC Convention. He's touting it as his "First Prime-Time National Address."
Absolutely disgusting.
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Posted by: watching-n-waiting on Mar 1, 2009 7:48 PM
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WHITE POLICE SHOOT UNARMED BLACK MAN IN THE BACK WHILE FACE DOWN ON FLOOR
"Without so much as flinching the Officer Mehserle stood over Grant and mercilessly fired his weapon, mortally wounding Mr. Grant with a single gunshot wound to the back," the claim alleges.
Witness videos show Grant and two other men sitting against a wall in the Fruitvale station after being pulled off the train.
Police are seen putting Grant face-down on the ground. Grant appears to struggle. One of the officers kneels on Grant as another officer stands, tugs at his gun, unholsters it and fires a shot into Grant's back.
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Pssst: 12% of black men (aged 20-34) in a PRIVATIZED prison system...and what'you'bet if Rove were black he would have been found in contempt after failing to comply with the first subpoena. What's he on now his third or fourth?
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Posted by: clvngodess on Mar 2, 2009 8:55 AM
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http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/02272009/transcript1.html
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Posted by: Daer Mi on Mar 2, 2009 12:50 PM
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In fact, it appears that being from a minority has given people from those cultural groups a certain advantage: by coming together and citing historical and current discrimination, they have been able to claim a political voice that has given them some leverage to improve their economic situations, like scholarships, grants, and equal opportunity employment. Hence over the past 40 years we have seen the number of minority families living in poverty decrease, while the number of caucasian families has remained the same. This increasing disparity seems to suggest that the true discrimination is at its root economic, not racist (though it definitely creates racism as a byproduct).
Classism gives birth to and reinforces racism. Racism is only one snake on the head of a much larger Medusa. So long as we have a system where someone has to lose for someone else to win, we will always have poverty, and the class struggles will always manifest in a variety of ways. If we want to get rid of racism and foster tolerance between subcultures, we need to get rid of the economic vampirism first.
...Also, it could definitely help if we stop misusing the word "race". After all there is only one race - human. Any biologist will tell you that. What this article is actually talking about is ethnicity, cultural self-identification. Our ideas of race and what race is are entirely cultural. I am of mixed heritage, and I am so sick of all the questions about my race, and all the conflicting laws saying I'm one race while another law says I'm not, as if which I was would determine my opportunities in life. How horrible would it be if we had to look past skin color and actually get to know a person's life before we concluded what their opportunities or lack thereof really were? Stop trying to classify me and figure out whether I'm the same or different than you. I'm human, goddammit. We both are. See me as human.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Feb 28, 2009 12:48 AM
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I live in the sunbelt- a.k.a. the south and can tell you that racism is alive and well. My state, despite having a (nominally) Democratic Governor and 2 (nominally) Democratic Senators actually voted MORE Republican in 2008 than in 2004 or 2000. My Congressman also a nominal Democrat along with the Governor and our Senators are 'Blue Ticks', also known as D.I.N.O.s (Democrats in name only).
I would love to live in a colorblind America just as I would like to live in a country with Universal Healthcare. I just don't see it in my daily interactions with the public here at home and when I travel around. Maybe in the highly multicultural areas of the country things are more colorblind, but not in the bulk of our nation. Sad, but true.
McCain's train-wreck campaign, NeoCon shift in the primaries and the financial implosion during the fall all but handed the election to whatever Democrat got the nomination. Considering all this, his margin of victory isn't that impressive. Beauregard the Wonder Dog or Triumph the Comic Insult Dog could have beaten McSame.
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Posted by: Dboy on Feb 28, 2009 1:27 AM
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Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Feb 28, 2009 2:42 AM
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At the very least, they will lose their jobs. We can start making bets about which of them will go to jail.
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Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Feb 28, 2009 5:23 AM
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Can a humiliating smackdown be far behind?
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Posted by: ellie on Feb 28, 2009 5:50 AM
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but what we are seeing around here is more acceptance of black americans and less tolerance of other ethnic groups overall...
outright racism is just changing to other melanin hues... sadly...
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Posted by: donya_f on Feb 28, 2009 6:01 AM
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Posted by: Tim V on Feb 28, 2009 6:16 AM
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I often overhear racist comments when talking among a significant number of fellow white people.
Also, there is still the issue of a wealth gap due to past racism: BECAUSE their parents/ grandparents/ancestors were subjected to open/legal discrimination, most afro-americans in the US have inherited less wealth than they otherwise would have.
Obama's election, however, is at least a symbolic victory over racism.
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Posted by: QQOblivion on Feb 28, 2009 7:18 AM
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The Obama administration will likely BOYCOTT a major racism conference at the UN.
Why? Because a draft outcome document for the conference dares to criticize Israel's very real racism against the Palestinians! (The draft specifically mentions Zionism as being racist, and it IS racist.)
Israel, I remind you, has only since moved MUCH FURTHER to the right than where it was when it recently committed massive war-crimes against the Palestinians.
As I said before, NO MATTER WHAT Israel does that is right-wing Fascist evil, the US government will give the Israeli government 100% of our support.
And, oh yeah, the US also will boycott the conference because we oppose paying ANY reparations for the slavery of African-Americans. But the big issue for the Obama administration seems to be the conference's "anti-Israel bias".
Shame on you, Obama. -- If you are not part of the solution against racism, then YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 28, 2009 7:31 AM
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Posted by: sailor50 on Feb 28, 2009 7:32 AM
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I am a white person who has been outraged for years that my fellow whites think it's OK to treat blacks as sub-human, while never ever acknowledging or appreciating their military service to this country.
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Posted by: Bob Graham Las Vegas on Feb 28, 2009 8:59 AM
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Posted by: Sushi on Feb 28, 2009 9:21 AM
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I have to wonder how much of the Dittoheads 'call for Obama's failure' revolves around the threat that their philosophies will be ultimately shown for what they are...a hate-group of losers with big mouths.
Despite all their rantings and projections of the doom of mankind and life as we know it, that race, sex, height, looks, income does not define who we are as humans. We do that with how we conduct ourselves, our intellect, our dignity, our motives, our respect and empathy for others.
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Feb 28, 2009 10:22 AM
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Posted by: Zeugitai on Feb 28, 2009 12:03 PM
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Not only do "The elite white press corps ha[ve] a myopic understanding of how racial inequality works," but everyone does. It is another one of those phenomena that emerge from brain functioning while simultaneously being rationalized in higher order consciousness. That is to say, virtually everyone is a racist by virtue of having a human brain while virtually everyone denies that they are racist for the sake of political correctness. It is structural hypocrisy. Conscious rationalizations cannot alter structural functioning. People are racist in their fiber. Of course, there are ideologies that cope with and deny racsim, but they only work when no "perturbations" occur. When the chips are down, the values and conceptualizations that were built in the mind by a structural racist bias will determine behavior. There is no pill to take for it.
It seems all or most of "our" problems come from reading and listening to the so-called pundits. Boycott them all. Let them rot. The Internet embodies the potential to render them all obsolete. Put them out on the street where they belong. Bring down all ivory towers. The paradigm of masses of ignorant people craning their necks to look up to these mouthpieces needs badly to be trashed.
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Posted by: yellow on Feb 28, 2009 12:14 PM
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In 1964, despite nearly 5% average annual GDP growth rates, the poverty rate in the US was about 20%. Black poverty accounted for most of it despite the fact that at the time Blacks were only about 10% of the US population. This situation has changed. According to a 2002 US Census Report the US Black Community accounted for about $800 billion in purchasing power making them the world's 16th largest economy. Black businesses, numbering 1.2 million earned nearly $88 billion in revenues. Blacks began to reach their population proportion in many professions as well such as law, medicine and business. The civil rights era had accomplished much.
Still there were racial gaps in wealth, income, net worth, unemployment and other social indices. The point is that the rate of progress was rapid and took place at a time when the challenges posed by a stagnant economy that was quickly losing high paying manufacturing jobs and cutting government budgets made it less likely. The reason, however, is no mystery. Institutionalized racism, the likes of which existed before 1964, can no longer be tolerated. Not only is it not acceptable to civilized people, it is an obsticle to progress. Late capitalism cannot function as a stable and sustainable system under such circumstances. Racism becomes an impediment to the ongoing functioning of capitalism itself.
It must be recalled that multicultural societies was not a liberal idea that emerged willy nilly from the academy; it was a historic trend driven by the process of capital accumulation itself. Beginning 200 hundred years ago, with the onset of industrial capitalism, massive waves of rural to urban migration were followed by long periods of cross border labor migration which crowded together in large cities, all over the capitalist world, diverse racial, cultural and ethnic groups. This process was driven by capitalism's historic drive to concentrate capital investment and production. It was, in essence, a product of capital's historic laws of motion. By the same token, racism in US society is destabilizing and unsustainable. It creates chaos and disruption and thus finds no support among the majority of people.
I would like to conclude by saying that the most salient divide in US society is class and not race. The current crisis will probably not change this fact. Surely, racial animosities still exist. But there is a vast difference in saying that there are still vestiges of racism contained in US society and saying that US society is itself racist. We must all learn the difference.
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Posted by: Kati on Feb 28, 2009 3:35 PM
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Oh where to begin responding to Yellow's post (above)? How about the classic definition of racism: “racism is the attribution of intellectual and moral characteristics to real or imagined physical traits.”
This certainly still goes on in our society (as a poster in this thread noted, if Obama wasn’t president but just a black guy in a nice suit, he’d still have problems getting a cab) and it sets a blueprint for the discrimination and oppression of any “real or imagined” group. Classism too exists in that framework. Just watch tv or read other media and count the ways classism is conflated with some imaginary physical difference. Since I live in a mobile home I am particularly sensitive to all the talk about “trailer trash” coming out of the mouths of people who think of themselves as liberal. Calling a person "trash" has extreme embodied/physical connotations. Classism takes its cue from racism but it is even more invisible in our society. Class and imaginary racial identity (for African Americans it’s still the “one drop rule” from the days of slavery) become embodied in the image we make of ourselves and others.
Racism is not rational and people are not basing their racist actions or inactions on what might be good for capitalism. I would suggest you do a bit of empirical research to validate your theories, but this would require giving up on the image you seem to have of capitalism as a sort of disembodied engine functioning on its own steam (are you a Hegelian per chance?). Capitalism is one among the ways human beings have organized (at times coercively) their economic activities. But no matter how many layers of illusion our economic ideologues have created, the fact remains that ultimately we derive our living from nature and not from an abstracted system.
Well it would be easy to rebut your argument that racism is not rational and thus most people are not racist. Since when have most human beings behaved rationally? But the rational does have a place when it comes to the fostering of racism and classism: a society such as ours where the gaps between the haves and the have not, between the lionized and the stigmatized, keep on growing, pitting underdogs against each others rather than against the people at the top is indeed a rational practice. Look at the blaming of Hispanics (who are now all viewed as "illegals" by a sizeable portion of Americans) for the economic troubles our financiers class has put us in. It is well known that poor whites in the South (“white trash”) were the most strident in violently enforcing a racist code of behavior. As long as they looked downwards or sideways they didn’t present a danger to the upper class. Isn’t it striking that it is mostly the poorest states that voted against Obama even though a large portion of their people are most in need of the reforms promised by a Democratic administration....
So yes, we still live in a racist/classist society, but there's hope....
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Mar 1, 2009 3:11 AM
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As you know, the Repubs do everything they can suppress the black vote and undermine black voters, using every dirty trick in the book. They do this because they wouldn't last five minutes if they didn't.
And now they lose anyway.
In any case, since racism is integral to the structure of the Republican Party, it is also integral to our political system and our government. A country just doesn't get any more racist than that.
The silver lining are the American voters, who managed to overwhelm all the vote suppression, vote caging, vote intimidation, and vote-flipping, to win a massive victory against racism.
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I'd also like to point out that Obama's famous Philadelphia speech on race during the Democratic primary happened in response to the Clinton campaign unleashing the dogs of racism as part of their "kitchen sink strategy". When Bill Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro are comfortable encouraging racism in the Democratic electorate for political gain -- no, we are definitely not in the "post-racial America" the pundits have been trying to hail. But I do enjoy the new smooth, grammatical Al Sharpton.2...
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Posted by: Quannah on Mar 1, 2009 12:25 PM
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In Los Angeles, Tavis Smiley held his State of the Black Union 2009. Among the speakers were Danny Glover, Nikki Giovanni, Na′im Akbar, Michael Eric Dyson, Lani Guinier, Jesse L. Jackson, Sr., Danny Bakewell, Sr., Jawanza Kunjufu, Les Brown, Charles Ogletree, Randall Robinson, Iyanla Vanzant, Julianne Malveaux, Maxine Waters, Earvin “Magic” Johnson, and Cornel West, Arlene Holt Baker, Karen Bass, Peter Harvey, Van Jones, Erica Williams, Emilie Townes, and Marc Morial.
It was aired on CSPAN. No other takers.
(And, by the way AlterNet -- where is YOUR coverage of that event?)
On CNN and Faux? The hate-mongering Rush Limbaugh gets an hour and a half -- LIVE -- to spew his special message of hate and vitriol from the CPAC Convention. He's touting it as his "First Prime-Time National Address."
Absolutely disgusting.
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WHITE POLICE SHOOT UNARMED BLACK MAN IN THE BACK WHILE FACE DOWN ON FLOOR
"Without so much as flinching the Officer Mehserle stood over Grant and mercilessly fired his weapon, mortally wounding Mr. Grant with a single gunshot wound to the back," the claim alleges.
Witness videos show Grant and two other men sitting against a wall in the Fruitvale station after being pulled off the train.
Police are seen putting Grant face-down on the ground. Grant appears to struggle. One of the officers kneels on Grant as another officer stands, tugs at his gun, unholsters it and fires a shot into Grant's back.
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Pssst: 12% of black men (aged 20-34) in a PRIVATIZED prison system...and what'you'bet if Rove were black he would have been found in contempt after failing to comply with the first subpoena. What's he on now his third or fourth?
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Posted by: Daer Mi on Mar 2, 2009 12:50 PM
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In fact, it appears that being from a minority has given people from those cultural groups a certain advantage: by coming together and citing historical and current discrimination, they have been able to claim a political voice that has given them some leverage to improve their economic situations, like scholarships, grants, and equal opportunity employment. Hence over the past 40 years we have seen the number of minority families living in poverty decrease, while the number of caucasian families has remained the same. This increasing disparity seems to suggest that the true discrimination is at its root economic, not racist (though it definitely creates racism as a byproduct).
Classism gives birth to and reinforces racism. Racism is only one snake on the head of a much larger Medusa. So long as we have a system where someone has to lose for someone else to win, we will always have poverty, and the class struggles will always manifest in a variety of ways. If we want to get rid of racism and foster tolerance between subcultures, we need to get rid of the economic vampirism first.
...Also, it could definitely help if we stop misusing the word "race". After all there is only one race - human. Any biologist will tell you that. What this article is actually talking about is ethnicity, cultural self-identification. Our ideas of race and what race is are entirely cultural. I am of mixed heritage, and I am so sick of all the questions about my race, and all the conflicting laws saying I'm one race while another law says I'm not, as if which I was would determine my opportunities in life. How horrible would it be if we had to look past skin color and actually get to know a person's life before we concluded what their opportunities or lack thereof really were? Stop trying to classify me and figure out whether I'm the same or different than you. I'm human, goddammit. We both are. See me as human.
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