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Twitter Nation Has Arrived: How Scared Should We Be?
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Welcome to Twitter Nation. What was once an easily avoided subculture of needy and annoying online souls is now a growing part of the social and media landscapes, with Twittering tentacles reaching into the operations of major newspapers, networks, corporations and political campaigns.
Suddenly, our skies are dark with brightly colored cartoon birds. As in a nightmare, they are everywhere.
This has all happened very fast. It was less than three years ago that Twitter hatched as a harmless Web 2.0 curio modeled on Facebook's status-update feature. Twitter offered people a forum devoted exclusively to short blog entries known as "tweets," most of which answer the company's tagline question, "What are you doing now?"
By mid-2008, the San Francisco-based site was garnering feature coverage in national magazines and batting away $500 million buyout offers. With nearly six million users and counting, it is now on a Plaguelike pace to obliterate last year's growth clip of 900 percent. Twitter is growing so fast that 2009 may come to be known not as the year America swore in its first black president or nationalized the banks, but the year America learned to think and communicate in 140 characters or fewer.
Over the last several months, the bird has flown the coop and begun flitting madly through the wider culture. For some, the breakout came with the site's role during the Mumbai terror attacks in November. For others, it was the Dalai Lama's decision to start Twittering. Some might point to Twitter feeds featured on cable news, or the dozens of Fortune 500 companies now Twittering their way to better sales and mitigated PR disasters. But there's no debating that a tipping point has been reached. Use of the site is now mainstream standard practice for everyone from national politicians to editors at highbrow publications like Harper's. Sites are popping up that discuss music and economics using the Twitter formula and size. Not a week passes without another creepily overeager New York Times trends piece about the site. Earlier this month, a Twitter style guide was released, and the first national Twitter awards ceremony, known as the Shorties, was convened in New York. Hosted by Twitter's own Walter Cronkite, CNN's Rick Sanchez, the awards ceremony featured acceptance speeches limited to 140 characters.
Can it be long before the entire country is tweeting away in the din of a giant turd-covered silicon aviary? And how scared should we be?
There is evolutionary logic to the building Twitter surge. The progression has been steady from blogs to RSS feeds to Facebook. But Twitter brings us within sight of an apotheosis of those aspects of American culture that have become all too familiar in recent years: look-at-me adolescent neediness, constant-contact media addiction, birdlike attention-span compression and vapidity to the point of depravity. When 140 characters is the ascendant standard size for communication and debate, what comes next? Seventy characters? Twenty? The disappearance of words altogether, replaced by smiley-face and cranky-crab emoticons?
I am a veteran Twitter hater—a "twater" in the cutesy Twitter mode. People like me have shadowed the site since it was still crying blind in the nest. As early as 2007, tech blogger Robert Scoble called Twitter hate "the new black." The first wave of Twitter hatred tended to be visceral and knee-jerk, a reaction to the site's unique ability to make everyone using it sound annoying and pathetic.
How can you not hate a site that encourages people to post, "At the park -- I love squirrels!" and "F@*K! I forgot to tivo Lost last night." How can you not want to slap these people with a mackerel? It's no coincidence that the second-most Twitter-happy people on Earth are the Japanese, the undisputed champions of self-infantilization. Twitter provides the closest thing most people will ever get to their very own paparazzi or reality show, a trail of imagined eyes on their every move, thought and taste.
The old Twitter hatred now feels quaint. Before, the site and its users were simply annoying. Now there is serious talk about "Twitter Journalism" and "Twitter Criticism." What was once just a colorful special-needs classroom on the Internet is starting to look like a steel spike aimed at the heart of what remains of our ability to construct and process grammatical sentences and complete thoughts.
Twitter's defenders roll their eyes at such criticisms. People have been saying this about the Internet for years, they say. You're just a grumpy old snob, they say. (It's true that at 34 I am old by social-networking standards, three years older than the average Twitter user. But nothing reveals age more than being terrified of being thought old, a fear that is obviously driving so much uncritical Twitter coverage.)
What's more, say Twitter's defenders, haters like me focus on the banality and chirpiness of tweets because we are ignorant of the wonderful personal and social benefits of regular Twitter use. The company's founders go so far as to call it the ultimate civilizational feel-good experience. "It is about the triumph of the human spirit," Twitter CEO Biz Stone recently told New York magazine.
Chief among the Twampions of the Human Spirit is the tech journalist and blogger Clive Thompson, who has been on self-appointed Twitter guard duty since 2007. In the first conceptual defense of microblogging ever penned, Thompson concedes in Wired that tweets are often grating and vapid. But, he argues, over the course of hundreds and thousands of individually insufferable tweets, eventually an "ambient awareness" is achieved that creates greater empathy toward, and understanding between, groups of people. Within the patterns of minutia about office life and television habits, argues Thompson, dwells an online cosmic consciousness.
Twitter and other constant-contact media give a group of people a sense of itself, making possible weird, fascinating feats of coordination.Twitter is almost the inverse of narcissism. It's practically collectivist—you're creating a shared understanding larger than yourself.
And what do these "weird, fascinating feats" of Twitter-enabled coordination look like? In awe of the power of the "practically collectivist" Twitter, Thompson relays the story of the time he met a friend for lunch. Even before sitting down, he already knew from reading her Twitter feed that this friend "was nervous about last week's big presentation, got stuck in a rare spring snowstorm, and [was] addicted to salt bagels."
But salt bagels are just the beginning for the mighty Twitter Overmind, ever a work in progress. Just last week, Thompson contributed to Twitter's national epic psychosocial genome project by tweeting: "I'm extremely sad that I can't find Liz Phair's 'Rocket Boy' to blip on blip.fm." Frowny faces all around, Clive.
Thompson builds upon his edifice of bullshit in a September 2008 cover story for the New York Times magazine. With the need to fill up several magazine pages, Thompson gushes that Twitter not only melds a group of individuals into a near "telepathic" unit of kinship, it is the ultimate Socratic app.
The act of stopping several times a day to observe what you're feeling or thinking can become, after weeks and weeks, a sort of philosophical act. It's like the Greek dictum to 'know thyself,' or the therapeutic concept of mindfulness. Having an audience can make the self-reflection even more acute.
Again, Thompson instructs us to put up with thousands of idiotic and maddening tweets in order to "get" the full beauty and bounty of the site. Only after we burn swaths of our lives reading mindless tweets will the Twitter oracle reveal the wisdom it reserves for dedicated supplicants. Thompson doesn't explain why having an audience makes self-reflection "even more acute," whatever that means. Nor does he betray any concern that 140 characters might be enough space to state a tiny fact about a Liz Phair song, but not enough to reflect or meditate on it by any meaningful definition of the words.
But taking people like Thompson seriously isn't necessary when the proof is right there on Twitter.com. What does the praxis of "acute self-reflection" look like in the Twitter Age?
It looks like this: "someone has coffee and it smells gooood. must resist." (Twitter name: dorisnight), and "hey, i still have the # for twitter on my cell phone. whatever. im bored" (Twitter name: DomGatto). "Bladder has been treated. Best part of that appointment? I've lost 12 pounds total since I started dieting." (Twitter name: Blueinsideout)
The most maddening defense of Twitter is that it constitutes some form of art. Boosters like to claim that compressing communication into 140 characters results in a kind of computer-age poetry. "[Twitter users are] trying to describe their activities in a way that is interesting to others: the status update as a literary form," writes Thompson in his NYT piece. Howard Lindzon, founder of StockTwits, recently told the Financial Times that the format "is an art form."
So is speaking through burps. Again, any attempt to defend Tweets as some kind of new American haiku runs up against the reality of site. Here's that great 21st century New York Twitter version of the haiku poet Basho, known as "aliglia": "OMG, I want brownies! When are we having dinner again? :)"
It may not be true that only morons are drawn to Twitter, but everyone on Twitter sounds like a moron.
It could be that the best Twitter has to offer -- delicious prose, supernovas of self- and communal knowledge -- are visible only near the top of the Twitter hierarchy (defined in Twitterville as those with the most followers). Let's check out the Twitter feed of CNN's Rick Sanchez, a legend in the Twitter community for incorporating the site into his cable news program.
Here's Sanchez Twittering to his viewers last week: "anybody got anything real good out there, btw.. thanks for tip on dentist kid.. wow that funny!"
Some say the glorious potential of Twitter will be fully realized in bite-sized Twitter citizen journalism. My AlterNet colleague Rory O'Conner has studied the evolving impact of social-network media on the news business and concluded that sites like Twitter are "not only supplementing but supplanting" traditional news. As others have done, O'Conner notes that that the first photo of U.S. Airways flight 1549 in the Hudson was posted not on the New York Times site, but on TwitPic.
"When it comes to breaking news -- from heroism on the Hudson to terror in Mumbai to calamity in California -- Twitter leads the pack these days," writes O'Conner. "Twitter has become a go-to source of news you can use when and where you want and need it -- often when and where the legacy media cannot yet or no longer supplies it."
It's true that Twitter has been used to get information out during crises. But so what? Does that make it journalism? When people started calling in stories to their editors by phone, did we start talking about "AT&T journalism?" And imagine if telephones only allowed you to speak for 8 seconds before cutting you off. Whatever events Twitter may allow us to report a few minutes faster, it is still limiting that reportage to a space that can't even hold an Associated Press wire blurb about a minor bomb blast in Sri Lanka.
When the Los Angeles Times ran a Twitter feed about local wildfires on its home page, it was an informational service to its readers that was distinct from and complementary to its coverage. It was not, let us hope, "the future of journalism." Efforts to use Twitter as a vehicle for first-person reportage with voice -- Slate tried to cover the Olympics this way, Talking Points Memo lamely tweeted the inaugural parties -- have been laughably bad and quickly aborted.
The problem with Twitter Journalism is the same as with communication. Twitter can provide stick-figure snapshots, nothing more. Worse, the constant posting and following of these snapshots takes up lots of precious time, sucking up and fracturing the dwindling number of solid blocks of minutes that remain after checking e-mail, Facebook, Myspace, and other now-routine diversions.
But Twitter is unique and more dangerous because of the rolling, inherently content-less and bite-sized nature of the tweets. It reflects and feeds an autistic culture unable to focus on anything but the tiny feed box in front of it, and even that only when medicated. Programs like Tweetdeck (currently in public beta) are working to perfect a permanent desktop scroll and filter -- an intravenous Twitter drip.
It takes a feat of dark imagination to look at Twitter and see art, the future of journalism or a gigantic shared-consciousness project. The thing Twitter reminds me of most is Mike Judge's under-appreciated 2006 satiric masterpiece, Idiocracy. The story revolves around an Army private, played by Luke Wilson, who wakes up in the year 2506. This future America is defined by its stupidity: nobody can read, write or think for more than a few seconds at a time. There is a prolonged national drought because a popular power-drink called Brawndo ("It's got electrolytes!") is being used to water the crops.
On his first day exploring this idiotic future, Wilson wanders into a movie theater, where a new film is playing, titled Ass. The movie consists entirely of a stationary shot of a man's ass, which farts at irregular intervals. The audience is laughing hysterically. In Judge's dystopia, Ass wins eight Oscars, including Best Screenplay. Idiocracy ends with Wilson as president giving a rousing State of the Union speech:
There was once a time in this country a long time ago, when people wrote books and movies in which you cared whose ass it was—and why it was farting. And I believe that day can come again.
When future generations are watching movies in which it's not clear whose ass is farting, or why, we'll look back at Twitter as a milestone. But we won't be using the word "fart." We'll call them "tweets."
And then we'll giggle like the Japanese schoolgirls we've become.
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Posted by: gazooks on Feb 21, 2009 1:16 AM
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Is it startling that so many lives are dominated in a schoolgirl continuum of the trivial and mundane, and hasn't that always been the case?
People need connection and this seems to enable an expression of what moves them on a basic level.
Maybe schoolgirls twit farting is bringing us down because we're not trying hard enough to find something of real importance to write about.
This could have made decent parody, in the right hands.
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Posted by: shellius on Feb 21, 2009 1:26 AM
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Still, Twitter is probably the most useful of the annoying things jumping up and down for my attention. I'm also quite positive I'm not using the way I'm "supposed" to. It also feels like a giant black hole I'm about to fall in and I really don't want to do that.
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Posted by: cyr3n on Feb 21, 2009 1:31 AM
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I use twitter as a quick way to scan news blogs and post important news (ie: mmorpg events, contests, in-person gatherings). No problems here. Twitter is a very useful tool and shouldnt be overlooked by anyone trying to leverage the social networking phenomenon.
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Posted by: cordas on Feb 21, 2009 2:25 AM
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Twitting is about as closely related to narcissism as the far left is to the far right... The differences are so small but all important to those who want to believe, to everyone else they are for all intents and purposes identical.
The US and Japan aren't the only countries that are being overtaken by this craptastic site, we here in the UK seem to be drowning in a sea of twits and their pointless droppings. It is also rapidly starting to take over our media as well, in the last few days I have seen 3 items on BBC News 24, and half a dozen articles on the BBC homepage all spouting how great twitter is, and how its going to change the face of news and society forever.
Having had limited experience of twitter myself I find it hard to understand the draw. I signed up for about 3 weeks at the insistance of my gf, but then the site had to go as I felt I could feel my braincells dying from the overload of irrelevant, banal and sometimes sickening twits it was being fed. I can understand the attraction of keeping tabs on some people who post well, but its like trying to find needles in a sewer.
Must check my bible to see if twitting is one of the signs of the appocolypse, because I am sure it must be.
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» Didn't Clint Eastwood say the far left & far right end up meeting on the far side of the spectrum?
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Posted by: Teller on Feb 21, 2009 3:49 AM
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Posted by: jmilles on Feb 21, 2009 4:31 AM
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Get over it. Twitter is conversation, nothing more. Take a hand-picked sentence out of your own daily conversation, post it in a three-page rant on AlterNet, and see how intelligent or insightful YOU sound.
Shall we also point out the racism and sexism in this article? Zaitchik's most withering critique is that Twitter users sound like "Japanese schoolgirls"? AlterNet, you can do better than this.
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Posted by: jnelson4765 on Feb 21, 2009 4:34 AM
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Are some people taking it way too far? Yes. Does it require this kind of concentrated vitriol? Is it really a sign of the Idiocracy apocalypse, or is it just IRC done with text messages? IRC can be just as stupid, banal, and far more offensive than anything Twitter puts out, but it's still used by a lot of computer people to coordinate projects and get tech support.
Finally, if you don't like someone's idiotic tweets, WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING THEM?
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Posted by: andrianmarketing on Feb 21, 2009 4:49 AM
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Search your favorite topic on Twitter and if you can't find at least 100 people talking about it and linking to more information about it then you can complain, but if you don't use it don't bash it as it has absolutely nothing to do with you. People who bemoan the lack of substance in the world, look at your TV, I've seen more substance linked to on Twitter than in every major Emmy winning Situation Comedy in the last 5 years.
And to the guy who says that SEO doesn't work. Buy a book, SEO works, your methods don't.
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Posted by: eruditeogre on Feb 21, 2009 4:54 AM
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Short attention span and "look-at-me" culture far predate Twitter; why don't you comment on the soullessness of our society and the need for the power elites to create distractions for us? Twitter could be seen in that light, but to do so requires actual critique, not just snark.
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Posted by: bornxeyed on Feb 21, 2009 5:14 AM
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Twitters invited to respond can do what?
You don't say.
Or does the editor not believe in apostrophes?
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» actually, the grammar is correct...
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Posted by: Beck on Feb 21, 2009 6:25 AM
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By the way, I haven't seen Idiocracy, but doesn't it sound like Kurt Vonnegut's short story Harrison Bergeron?
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Posted by: curiousdwk on Feb 21, 2009 6:33 AM
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I like myself. I like time to myself to entertain my own thoughts and feelings. I prefer reflection to reaction. When I see benefits of being in a connect mode rather than an introspect mode, I might consider it.
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Posted by: Celtic Tiger on Feb 21, 2009 7:06 AM
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I've sent it to my email lists and will certainly recommend it on my Twitter page so my "followers" will understand when I disconnect.
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Posted by: GuitarBill on Feb 21, 2009 8:34 AM
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Who do you think you're fooling, Honky?
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Posted by: jgrossnas on Feb 21, 2009 8:02 AM
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And as Alternet knows since they have a Twitter account themselves, it's also good for sharing info about articles (i.e. "here's an interesting article on Alternet about tweetiing: (link)").
Also, you'd be surprised at what someone people can say in 140 characters or less. There's a guy who writes short stories there, another one who shares great quotes, an NYU prof who's a media expert, Sonic Youth giving updates about their upcoming album, Tom Waits, a smart pithy album review site, BBC News updates, tech maven Tim O'Reilly and lots more to discover.
And yes, there is a lot of waste and silly crap there but there's also hilarious stuff, like a cat who calls his owner 'the tormentor,' Darth Vader, Notorious BIG from beyond the grave, Rainn Wilson from The Office. Every now and then, you need that kind of thing...
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Feb 21, 2009 8:14 AM
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Repugs haven't quite wrapped their minds around the 'Internets' and all those 'Cables'
is there something about the 'Bird' icon which draws them into complacency? Or is it an unconscious desire to sing like Birds...When will 'SongBird' himself venture on, revealing far more about himself than anything else. Come On Mac Recount those days in Vietnam when you had chocolates laid upon your pillow everynight. Or about the last times you had Drinks with your old Protege Binny, what great diggs he's got on Palm Island.Or perhaps an account recalling how you nearly escaped another crash landing while delivery that Anthrax to Saddam in the '80's?Tell US more about what you "know".Sing Birdy Sing!
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Posted by: Violetw on Feb 21, 2009 8:26 AM
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You are not a 'freelance journalist', you are just another blogger. Try living in the real world for a change and get your head out of your dank, smelly ass.
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Posted by: Sojourner on Feb 21, 2009 8:30 AM
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Posted by: DrXyzzy on Feb 21, 2009 9:11 AM
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Generalization: Most people over 25 don't understand Twitter. Their first reaction on hearing about it is, "why would I ever want that"? People under 25 with a cell phone find it a fun way to stay in touch.
You see the same sort of age barriers going back a decade or two for blogging or email or personal computers. It's like geological strata.
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Posted by: phatkhat on Feb 21, 2009 9:15 AM
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Like one poster above, I suppose I can see some utility in the sites for advertising purposes, but that is about it. I feel no need for shallow social networks, where people indeed post banalities.
I finally did activate instant messaging when I became a forum moderator, but that is as far down that road as I wish to go. Chatting can be fun, but I can see how your whole life could be sucked up by it, too. Kudos to the poster who talked about being so self-absorbed that we are made into road pizza by reality!
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Posted by: willymack on Feb 21, 2009 9:38 AM
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1. The phony "war on terror" is STILL in full swing, and with no end in sight. That's ten BILLION per month of OUR money, EVERY month, being pissed away for a ficticious cause.
2. Criminals in banks and on Wall Street are being rewarded with OUR money for their criminal behavior. Twitter can't touch these or other equally important topics with the comprehensive description and discussion they require. On the other hand, if you enjoy speaking in texting language or teenybopperese, Twitter may just be your cup of tea.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Feb 21, 2009 10:23 AM
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And now blather on Twitter
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Posted by: archives@uwyo.edu on Feb 21, 2009 10:25 AM
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Posted by: MRae on Feb 21, 2009 10:34 AM
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I was struck by the differences in interaction between students at a local university campus. In 2000, you would have seen students and faculty interacting with each other in real life. In 2009, one notices an overwhelming number of individuals in headphones with their iPod or on the phone talking or texting; each is in their own world oblivious to life around them. They are surrounded by flesh and blood, but they touch only plastic.
Is that a bad thing? Not if the plastic of the keyboard is balanced by meaningful interaction and relationships with people and society.
We have ever increasing numbers of young people with depression, suicidal attempts and suicides. Many claim to feel isolated. Perhaps we should think more deeply about how our technology may be contributing to the feeling of isolation.
Remember to take a break, get off the machines, get out and meet with people. Have fun in the "real" world.
Gotta go skiing now!
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Posted by: Laughinggrrrrrl on Feb 21, 2009 10:56 AM
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Posted by: axon on Feb 21, 2009 10:59 AM
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I was researching a business idea, and interviewed one of the pioneers in the industry. I thanked my contact, and told her I'd like to keep up with what she's doing. She said "Oh just follow me on Twitter." Uh, okay, I guess.
And it was just what I expected. "OMG I can't believe my hair looks like this!!!" "Saw the cutest shoes at Macy's!! " "Having lunch with @bozo." And so forth. I was just about to give up.
And then she posted "Registering for this conference ". I followed the link. It was an important conference in my business, and one I knew nothing about. And it was in two days.
I registered, and went to the conference. In truth, I didn't learn anything about the subject that I didn't already know, but I also saw about 400 people who I never see at the conferences I produce. And that's because I wasn't communicating with them. They're millennials, and they don't respond to the communication channels I was using. For most of these people "email" is just a synonym for "spam".
Since then I've found a lot of value in Twitter. I follow thought leaders in the technologies and industries I'm interested in. I use Twhirl (AIM-based desktop client) to manage and skim the feed. I've learned to pass over the personal asides and trivial updates (except for actual friends or family), and hunt for links. It's been enormously useful to expand my information horizon and keep my finger on the pulse of a rapidly transforming society.
Things I've been alerted to on Twitter include live webcasts from BIL, a barcamp for Marriage Equality, hard-to-find tickets to performances, running commentaries from attendees at Davos, TED, and CES. Following logorrheac correspondents like Guy Kawasaki, Robert Scoble, Jason Calacanis, and others keeps me as up-to-the-minute informed as I've ever been. It's been very useful, and not nearly as annoying as I thought it would be. It's all about where I choose to invest my attention, and I find it very easy to skip the shallow stuff and still pick up on a lot of high-value content.
Twitter is not the harbinger of the apocalypse. That would be Seesmic. :-) Seriously, if you hated Twitter, you'll absolutely melt down over Seesmic.
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Posted by: nen on Feb 21, 2009 11:17 AM
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Also, I found the comments about the Japanese to be racist.
You know what? Sometimes I just want to read a little blurb about my friends to see that they're still alive and not in the throes of some kind of crisis. Sometimes, I'd rather have that brief connection as opposed to reading a great long Live Journal post containing large paragraphs of information about stuff they did with people I've never met.
I don't think it's any Zen haiku stuff, or collective mind. If you don't understand a Tweet, you can just ignore it. It's short so there's nothing to sift through for relevant information.
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Posted by: pfm on Feb 21, 2009 11:42 AM
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Posted by: beffie on Feb 21, 2009 12:50 PM
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Posted by: coachsappho on Feb 21, 2009 1:54 PM
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Earlier this year I start saying 'enough'! I've joined many social networking systems including Facebook (which, btw, I tried some free ads there without noticeable success). I never dug Myspace (I admit I'm too old for getting it I suppose).
I decided to NOT add on texting to my tech repertoire. Now, I'm pretty tech savvy for a relationship coach/social worker, but I am tired and burnt out from all these email accounts, passwords, websites, blogs to upkeep, phones, phone numbers, login codes, etc. etc.
I drew the line at texting, sexting, etc. i don't need to fall off a curb and break my hip reading a text, i don't need a sexter stalking me and i don't need to crash my car trying to text my friends while driving...no thank u.
Twitter almost reminds me too of the old chat rooms years ago when dozens would go in a room and all hell would break loose. That stuff bored me within minutes.
I like real relationships with real people. I'm sorry to be a 'wet blanket' but things like twitter, second life and even myspace have their limits, as far as i'm concerned. i've seen too many people get addicted to them and mess up their jobs, lives, marriages, etc.
Like everything else, you gotta find a balance AND I fear some of these techy things could lead us right down that path to becoming ROBOTS...do you think robots would laugh at an ass???? ;-)
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Posted by: BigElectricCat on Feb 21, 2009 2:16 PM
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"What was once just a colorful special-needs classroom on the Internet is starting to look like a steel spike aimed at the heart of what remains of our ability to construct and process complete grammatical sentences and thoughts."
A grammatical sentence by definition is correctly formed and therefore complete. You are using a redundancy by including "complete". Ah... Let the self-fulfilling prophecy begin!
I don't really care, just thought that was funny. As far as the article I probably agree, Twitter sounds pretty F-ing stupid. And no, this is not me being a grumpy old man that would have said the same thing about the hula hoop. If people want to twitter or facebook or hula hoop, why the hell would I care? I wouldn't feel any need to comment or criticize. Unless of course MSM clowns were on TV all the time saying that hula hoops were a big part of the future of journalism and bragging about their use of it. In which case some criticism would be justified. As well as an occasional rant by a twitter hater on why it's just a silly fad.
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Posted by: GUY FOX on Feb 21, 2009 3:55 PM
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We suspect there are too many sheep out there who haven't enough to do.
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Posted by: Cathyc on Feb 21, 2009 4:00 PM
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Posted by: tstitt on Feb 21, 2009 5:47 PM
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Twitter, as with most of the recently arrived social media services, generates very high noise levels in non-linear patterns. The same could be said about traditional broadcast media if you tried to watch or listen to all of the channels in a linear or omni-casted format. The key to getting useful signals out of Twitter (and traditional media) is applying filters (or tuning to the right channel) for your interests.
Sounds like you could use some advice on social media clients or filters that would extract meaningful signals and hide all the noise.
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Posted by: tsdiva on Feb 21, 2009 6:55 PM
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What I've found from those who do whine about Twitter, is two things: 1)they don't use it so how would they know, and, 2)they use it but are very ignorant about social networking and how to use it to enhance your life, online and off.
I could cherry pick several tweets that would show the exact opposite over what this article saw in twitter. It's always easier to complain about things though then focus on the positive.
I hope anyone who was curious about Twitter doesn't take this article seriously. The uses for it are endless. If you use it smartly.
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Posted by: Tombo on Feb 21, 2009 7:25 PM
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Posted by: chrisdtime on Feb 22, 2009 3:53 AM
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Without even this basic level of investigation, what you've effectively written is this: "I hate books! Why, I saw this book the other day that was all about poop and pooping! People who read books must be idiots!"
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Posted by: bobtr900 on Feb 22, 2009 4:01 AM
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Twitter seems nonsensical and without any merit, especially as my nephews use it to communicate with their friends wherein they say nothing of any value to each other. BUT, this is a new mode of communication, and to me it may well prove to be yet undeveloped.
I was an early adopter of the Internet, such as it was back in 1987-88. Wow, it was really crude by today's standards. More than likely Twitter's development will be similar. The 140 words would seem to be a limiting factor. But maybe Twitter has not yet found it's niche. With Twitter, it may be a case of the technology comes first then the really productive apps follow.
I would love to know every time jackass George Bush and his relatives do another stupid and unthinking thing, another self revealing act of stupidity, greed or whatever. If we had this knowledge back in 2000 when he was running for the presidency we might have been able to see the impending dangers, and stopped his presidential train wreck. A lot of human beings would be alive today were Twitter in full use then. Look how far we, "we the people", have come in our ever more sophisticated use of the Internet.
Knowledge and now communication are power. "We the people", the ordinary, everyday, little and powerless people have ever greater amounts of power with our increasingly sophisticated uses of the Internet to share our individual knowledge with each other. As we become even more sophisticated in our use of the Internet we become even more powerful, that is because the behind the scenes powerful owner/operators of our society can no longer hide behind the scenes and manipulate our lives as they used to do.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Feb 22, 2009 8:37 AM
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seriously:
...a quiet walk in the park...
...a quiet book with some soft music...
...a dinner made for a Loved One...
...a morning doing art, canoeing or gardening...
anything that doesn't have a *constant eportage* of the minutiae of other people's moment-to-moment commentaries?
seriously: when is the last time people just spent time alone & enjoyed it?
if you're not enjoying being alone in your headspace for any significant period of time... are you ever doing your own thinking & personal development? are you ever in the moment?
who are you if you can't spend any time without a constant chatter from talk radio? ...tv? ...Twitter? ...FaceBook? ...TXTMSG? hell, some people can't even walk down a hallway without jabbering on a cellphone... don't even get me started about 'quality time' with a BlackBerry or iPhone junkie...
Is our technology stealing our opportunities for experiencing the goal of Zen practitioners: being in the moments of our existence?
perspective, people.
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Posted by: BradKennedy on Feb 22, 2009 10:11 AM
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Posted by: alterejo on Feb 22, 2009 1:50 PM
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It still is. But by all means, twit away.
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Posted by: YogiBear on Feb 22, 2009 2:04 PM
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You can remove the is, but you're still speaking in third person. So if you Twitter, it appears on your Facebook page like this: YogiBear is I'm in the park feeding the squirrels.
or
YogiBear Isn't life swell?
I just don't care for the poor grammar.
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Posted by: gazooks on Feb 21, 2009 1:16 AM
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Is it startling that so many lives are dominated in a schoolgirl continuum of the trivial and mundane, and hasn't that always been the case?
People need connection and this seems to enable an expression of what moves them on a basic level.
Maybe schoolgirls twit farting is bringing us down because we're not trying hard enough to find something of real importance to write about.
This could have made decent parody, in the right hands.
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Posted by: shellius on Feb 21, 2009 1:26 AM
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Still, Twitter is probably the most useful of the annoying things jumping up and down for my attention. I'm also quite positive I'm not using the way I'm "supposed" to. It also feels like a giant black hole I'm about to fall in and I really don't want to do that.
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Posted by: cyr3n on Feb 21, 2009 1:31 AM
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I use twitter as a quick way to scan news blogs and post important news (ie: mmorpg events, contests, in-person gatherings). No problems here. Twitter is a very useful tool and shouldnt be overlooked by anyone trying to leverage the social networking phenomenon.
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Posted by: cordas on Feb 21, 2009 2:25 AM
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Twitting is about as closely related to narcissism as the far left is to the far right... The differences are so small but all important to those who want to believe, to everyone else they are for all intents and purposes identical.
The US and Japan aren't the only countries that are being overtaken by this craptastic site, we here in the UK seem to be drowning in a sea of twits and their pointless droppings. It is also rapidly starting to take over our media as well, in the last few days I have seen 3 items on BBC News 24, and half a dozen articles on the BBC homepage all spouting how great twitter is, and how its going to change the face of news and society forever.
Having had limited experience of twitter myself I find it hard to understand the draw. I signed up for about 3 weeks at the insistance of my gf, but then the site had to go as I felt I could feel my braincells dying from the overload of irrelevant, banal and sometimes sickening twits it was being fed. I can understand the attraction of keeping tabs on some people who post well, but its like trying to find needles in a sewer.
Must check my bible to see if twitting is one of the signs of the appocolypse, because I am sure it must be.
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Posted by: Teller on Feb 21, 2009 3:49 AM
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Posted by: jmilles on Feb 21, 2009 4:31 AM
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Get over it. Twitter is conversation, nothing more. Take a hand-picked sentence out of your own daily conversation, post it in a three-page rant on AlterNet, and see how intelligent or insightful YOU sound.
Shall we also point out the racism and sexism in this article? Zaitchik's most withering critique is that Twitter users sound like "Japanese schoolgirls"? AlterNet, you can do better than this.
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Posted by: jnelson4765 on Feb 21, 2009 4:34 AM
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Are some people taking it way too far? Yes. Does it require this kind of concentrated vitriol? Is it really a sign of the Idiocracy apocalypse, or is it just IRC done with text messages? IRC can be just as stupid, banal, and far more offensive than anything Twitter puts out, but it's still used by a lot of computer people to coordinate projects and get tech support.
Finally, if you don't like someone's idiotic tweets, WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING THEM?
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Posted by: andrianmarketing on Feb 21, 2009 4:49 AM
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Search your favorite topic on Twitter and if you can't find at least 100 people talking about it and linking to more information about it then you can complain, but if you don't use it don't bash it as it has absolutely nothing to do with you. People who bemoan the lack of substance in the world, look at your TV, I've seen more substance linked to on Twitter than in every major Emmy winning Situation Comedy in the last 5 years.
And to the guy who says that SEO doesn't work. Buy a book, SEO works, your methods don't.
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Posted by: eruditeogre on Feb 21, 2009 4:54 AM
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Short attention span and "look-at-me" culture far predate Twitter; why don't you comment on the soullessness of our society and the need for the power elites to create distractions for us? Twitter could be seen in that light, but to do so requires actual critique, not just snark.
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Posted by: bornxeyed on Feb 21, 2009 5:14 AM
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Twitters invited to respond can do what?
You don't say.
Or does the editor not believe in apostrophes?
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Posted by: Beck on Feb 21, 2009 6:25 AM
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By the way, I haven't seen Idiocracy, but doesn't it sound like Kurt Vonnegut's short story Harrison Bergeron?
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Posted by: curiousdwk on Feb 21, 2009 6:33 AM
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I like myself. I like time to myself to entertain my own thoughts and feelings. I prefer reflection to reaction. When I see benefits of being in a connect mode rather than an introspect mode, I might consider it.
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Posted by: Celtic Tiger on Feb 21, 2009 7:06 AM
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I've sent it to my email lists and will certainly recommend it on my Twitter page so my "followers" will understand when I disconnect.
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Posted by: GuitarBill on Feb 21, 2009 8:34 AM
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Who do you think you're fooling, Honky?
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Posted by: wrinklemomma on Feb 21, 2009 7:51 AM
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Posted by: jgrossnas on Feb 21, 2009 8:02 AM
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And as Alternet knows since they have a Twitter account themselves, it's also good for sharing info about articles (i.e. "here's an interesting article on Alternet about tweetiing: (link)").
Also, you'd be surprised at what someone people can say in 140 characters or less. There's a guy who writes short stories there, another one who shares great quotes, an NYU prof who's a media expert, Sonic Youth giving updates about their upcoming album, Tom Waits, a smart pithy album review site, BBC News updates, tech maven Tim O'Reilly and lots more to discover.
And yes, there is a lot of waste and silly crap there but there's also hilarious stuff, like a cat who calls his owner 'the tormentor,' Darth Vader, Notorious BIG from beyond the grave, Rainn Wilson from The Office. Every now and then, you need that kind of thing...
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Feb 21, 2009 8:14 AM
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Repugs haven't quite wrapped their minds around the 'Internets' and all those 'Cables'
is there something about the 'Bird' icon which draws them into complacency? Or is it an unconscious desire to sing like Birds...When will 'SongBird' himself venture on, revealing far more about himself than anything else. Come On Mac Recount those days in Vietnam when you had chocolates laid upon your pillow everynight. Or about the last times you had Drinks with your old Protege Binny, what great diggs he's got on Palm Island.Or perhaps an account recalling how you nearly escaped another crash landing while delivery that Anthrax to Saddam in the '80's?Tell US more about what you "know".Sing Birdy Sing!
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Posted by: Violetw on Feb 21, 2009 8:26 AM
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You are not a 'freelance journalist', you are just another blogger. Try living in the real world for a change and get your head out of your dank, smelly ass.
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Posted by: Sojourner on Feb 21, 2009 8:30 AM
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Posted by: Phil Free on Feb 21, 2009 8:42 AM
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Posted by: DrXyzzy on Feb 21, 2009 9:11 AM
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Generalization: Most people over 25 don't understand Twitter. Their first reaction on hearing about it is, "why would I ever want that"? People under 25 with a cell phone find it a fun way to stay in touch.
You see the same sort of age barriers going back a decade or two for blogging or email or personal computers. It's like geological strata.
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Posted by: SkeeterVT1 on Feb 21, 2009 9:11 AM
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Posted by: phatkhat on Feb 21, 2009 9:15 AM
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Like one poster above, I suppose I can see some utility in the sites for advertising purposes, but that is about it. I feel no need for shallow social networks, where people indeed post banalities.
I finally did activate instant messaging when I became a forum moderator, but that is as far down that road as I wish to go. Chatting can be fun, but I can see how your whole life could be sucked up by it, too. Kudos to the poster who talked about being so self-absorbed that we are made into road pizza by reality!
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Posted by: willymack on Feb 21, 2009 9:38 AM
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1. The phony "war on terror" is STILL in full swing, and with no end in sight. That's ten BILLION per month of OUR money, EVERY month, being pissed away for a ficticious cause.
2. Criminals in banks and on Wall Street are being rewarded with OUR money for their criminal behavior. Twitter can't touch these or other equally important topics with the comprehensive description and discussion they require. On the other hand, if you enjoy speaking in texting language or teenybopperese, Twitter may just be your cup of tea.
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Posted by: dragonlady620 on Feb 21, 2009 10:06 AM
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Posted by: iamtribalgecko on Feb 21, 2009 10:23 AM
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Feb 21, 2009 10:23 AM
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And now blather on Twitter
Our progress reversed
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Posted by: archives@uwyo.edu on Feb 21, 2009 10:25 AM
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Posted by: MRae on Feb 21, 2009 10:34 AM
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I was struck by the differences in interaction between students at a local university campus. In 2000, you would have seen students and faculty interacting with each other in real life. In 2009, one notices an overwhelming number of individuals in headphones with their iPod or on the phone talking or texting; each is in their own world oblivious to life around them. They are surrounded by flesh and blood, but they touch only plastic.
Is that a bad thing? Not if the plastic of the keyboard is balanced by meaningful interaction and relationships with people and society.
We have ever increasing numbers of young people with depression, suicidal attempts and suicides. Many claim to feel isolated. Perhaps we should think more deeply about how our technology may be contributing to the feeling of isolation.
Remember to take a break, get off the machines, get out and meet with people. Have fun in the "real" world.
Gotta go skiing now!
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Posted by: Laughinggrrrrrl on Feb 21, 2009 10:56 AM
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Posted by: axon on Feb 21, 2009 10:59 AM
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I was researching a business idea, and interviewed one of the pioneers in the industry. I thanked my contact, and told her I'd like to keep up with what she's doing. She said "Oh just follow me on Twitter." Uh, okay, I guess.
And it was just what I expected. "OMG I can't believe my hair looks like this!!!" "Saw the cutest shoes at Macy's!! " "Having lunch with @bozo." And so forth. I was just about to give up.
And then she posted "Registering for this conference ". I followed the link. It was an important conference in my business, and one I knew nothing about. And it was in two days.
I registered, and went to the conference. In truth, I didn't learn anything about the subject that I didn't already know, but I also saw about 400 people who I never see at the conferences I produce. And that's because I wasn't communicating with them. They're millennials, and they don't respond to the communication channels I was using. For most of these people "email" is just a synonym for "spam".
Since then I've found a lot of value in Twitter. I follow thought leaders in the technologies and industries I'm interested in. I use Twhirl (AIM-based desktop client) to manage and skim the feed. I've learned to pass over the personal asides and trivial updates (except for actual friends or family), and hunt for links. It's been enormously useful to expand my information horizon and keep my finger on the pulse of a rapidly transforming society.
Things I've been alerted to on Twitter include live webcasts from BIL, a barcamp for Marriage Equality, hard-to-find tickets to performances, running commentaries from attendees at Davos, TED, and CES. Following logorrheac correspondents like Guy Kawasaki, Robert Scoble, Jason Calacanis, and others keeps me as up-to-the-minute informed as I've ever been. It's been very useful, and not nearly as annoying as I thought it would be. It's all about where I choose to invest my attention, and I find it very easy to skip the shallow stuff and still pick up on a lot of high-value content.
Twitter is not the harbinger of the apocalypse. That would be Seesmic. :-) Seriously, if you hated Twitter, you'll absolutely melt down over Seesmic.
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Posted by: nen on Feb 21, 2009 11:17 AM
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Also, I found the comments about the Japanese to be racist.
You know what? Sometimes I just want to read a little blurb about my friends to see that they're still alive and not in the throes of some kind of crisis. Sometimes, I'd rather have that brief connection as opposed to reading a great long Live Journal post containing large paragraphs of information about stuff they did with people I've never met.
I don't think it's any Zen haiku stuff, or collective mind. If you don't understand a Tweet, you can just ignore it. It's short so there's nothing to sift through for relevant information.
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Posted by: pfm on Feb 21, 2009 11:42 AM
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Respectfully,
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... everyone has the right to clean & accessible water, adequate for the health & well being of the individual & family, and no one shall be deprived of such acess or quality of water due to individual economic circumstances ... Article # 31 - United Nations
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Posted by: beffie on Feb 21, 2009 12:50 PM
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*yawn*
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Posted by: coachsappho on Feb 21, 2009 1:54 PM
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Earlier this year I start saying 'enough'! I've joined many social networking systems including Facebook (which, btw, I tried some free ads there without noticeable success). I never dug Myspace (I admit I'm too old for getting it I suppose).
I decided to NOT add on texting to my tech repertoire. Now, I'm pretty tech savvy for a relationship coach/social worker, but I am tired and burnt out from all these email accounts, passwords, websites, blogs to upkeep, phones, phone numbers, login codes, etc. etc.
I drew the line at texting, sexting, etc. i don't need to fall off a curb and break my hip reading a text, i don't need a sexter stalking me and i don't need to crash my car trying to text my friends while driving...no thank u.
Twitter almost reminds me too of the old chat rooms years ago when dozens would go in a room and all hell would break loose. That stuff bored me within minutes.
I like real relationships with real people. I'm sorry to be a 'wet blanket' but things like twitter, second life and even myspace have their limits, as far as i'm concerned. i've seen too many people get addicted to them and mess up their jobs, lives, marriages, etc.
Like everything else, you gotta find a balance AND I fear some of these techy things could lead us right down that path to becoming ROBOTS...do you think robots would laugh at an ass???? ;-)
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Posted by: BigElectricCat on Feb 21, 2009 2:16 PM
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"What was once just a colorful special-needs classroom on the Internet is starting to look like a steel spike aimed at the heart of what remains of our ability to construct and process complete grammatical sentences and thoughts."
A grammatical sentence by definition is correctly formed and therefore complete. You are using a redundancy by including "complete". Ah... Let the self-fulfilling prophecy begin!
I don't really care, just thought that was funny. As far as the article I probably agree, Twitter sounds pretty F-ing stupid. And no, this is not me being a grumpy old man that would have said the same thing about the hula hoop. If people want to twitter or facebook or hula hoop, why the hell would I care? I wouldn't feel any need to comment or criticize. Unless of course MSM clowns were on TV all the time saying that hula hoops were a big part of the future of journalism and bragging about their use of it. In which case some criticism would be justified. As well as an occasional rant by a twitter hater on why it's just a silly fad.
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Posted by: GUY FOX on Feb 21, 2009 3:55 PM
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We suspect there are too many sheep out there who haven't enough to do.
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Posted by: Cathyc on Feb 21, 2009 4:00 PM
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Posted by: tstitt on Feb 21, 2009 5:47 PM
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Twitter, as with most of the recently arrived social media services, generates very high noise levels in non-linear patterns. The same could be said about traditional broadcast media if you tried to watch or listen to all of the channels in a linear or omni-casted format. The key to getting useful signals out of Twitter (and traditional media) is applying filters (or tuning to the right channel) for your interests.
Sounds like you could use some advice on social media clients or filters that would extract meaningful signals and hide all the noise.
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Posted by: tsdiva on Feb 21, 2009 6:55 PM
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What I've found from those who do whine about Twitter, is two things: 1)they don't use it so how would they know, and, 2)they use it but are very ignorant about social networking and how to use it to enhance your life, online and off.
I could cherry pick several tweets that would show the exact opposite over what this article saw in twitter. It's always easier to complain about things though then focus on the positive.
I hope anyone who was curious about Twitter doesn't take this article seriously. The uses for it are endless. If you use it smartly.
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Posted by: Tombo on Feb 21, 2009 7:25 PM
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Posted by: chrisdtime on Feb 22, 2009 3:53 AM
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Without even this basic level of investigation, what you've effectively written is this: "I hate books! Why, I saw this book the other day that was all about poop and pooping! People who read books must be idiots!"
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Posted by: bobtr900 on Feb 22, 2009 4:01 AM
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Twitter seems nonsensical and without any merit, especially as my nephews use it to communicate with their friends wherein they say nothing of any value to each other. BUT, this is a new mode of communication, and to me it may well prove to be yet undeveloped.
I was an early adopter of the Internet, such as it was back in 1987-88. Wow, it was really crude by today's standards. More than likely Twitter's development will be similar. The 140 words would seem to be a limiting factor. But maybe Twitter has not yet found it's niche. With Twitter, it may be a case of the technology comes first then the really productive apps follow.
I would love to know every time jackass George Bush and his relatives do another stupid and unthinking thing, another self revealing act of stupidity, greed or whatever. If we had this knowledge back in 2000 when he was running for the presidency we might have been able to see the impending dangers, and stopped his presidential train wreck. A lot of human beings would be alive today were Twitter in full use then. Look how far we, "we the people", have come in our ever more sophisticated use of the Internet.
Knowledge and now communication are power. "We the people", the ordinary, everyday, little and powerless people have ever greater amounts of power with our increasingly sophisticated uses of the Internet to share our individual knowledge with each other. As we become even more sophisticated in our use of the Internet we become even more powerful, that is because the behind the scenes powerful owner/operators of our society can no longer hide behind the scenes and manipulate our lives as they used to do.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Feb 22, 2009 8:37 AM
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seriously:
...a quiet walk in the park...
...a quiet book with some soft music...
...a dinner made for a Loved One...
...a morning doing art, canoeing or gardening...
anything that doesn't have a *constant eportage* of the minutiae of other people's moment-to-moment commentaries?
seriously: when is the last time people just spent time alone & enjoyed it?
if you're not enjoying being alone in your headspace for any significant period of time... are you ever doing your own thinking & personal development? are you ever in the moment?
who are you if you can't spend any time without a constant chatter from talk radio? ...tv? ...Twitter? ...FaceBook? ...TXTMSG? hell, some people can't even walk down a hallway without jabbering on a cellphone... don't even get me started about 'quality time' with a BlackBerry or iPhone junkie...
Is our technology stealing our opportunities for experiencing the goal of Zen practitioners: being in the moments of our existence?
perspective, people.
Perspective.
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It still is. But by all means, twit away.
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Posted by: YogiBear on Feb 22, 2009 2:04 PM
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You can remove the is, but you're still speaking in third person. So if you Twitter, it appears on your Facebook page like this: YogiBear is I'm in the park feeding the squirrels.
or
YogiBear Isn't life swell?
I just don't care for the poor grammar.
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