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Bush Tries to Whitewash History; Portrays Himself as a Victim

By Matthew Yglesias, The American Prospect. Posted December 17, 2008.


Even after all this time, Bush views the Iraq War with regret not over anything he did, but rather, over something that was done to him.
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It's tiresome to need to point this out at this late date but, yes, George W. Bush and his administration misled the country while making the case for war with Iraq and, remarkably, are still trying to mislead people about it. In a Dec. 1 interview with ABC News' Charlie Gibson, Bush said that "the biggest regret" of his presidency was "the intelligence failure in Iraq."

In other words, his biggest regret wasn't regret over anything he did but rather regret over something that was done to him, a vague "intelligence failure" rather than a misguided decision to invade another country. Bush explained that "a lot of people put their reputations on the line and said the weapons of mass destruction is a reason to remove Saddam Hussein. It wasn't just people in my administration; a lot of members in Congress, prior to my arrival in Washington, D.C., during the debate on Iraq, a lot of leaders of nations around the world were all looking at the same intelligence."

This is, even by Bush standards, a pretty breathtaking revision of history. In fact, very few members of Congress looked at the intelligence -- Thomas Ricks reports in his book Fiasco that just five read the classified version of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction capabilities. But had more members taken the time, they would have found what Spencer Ackerman and John Judis reported back in June of 2003 -- that the Bush administration removed a number of caveats and contrary pieces of evidence from the classified version of the estimate when producing a shorter, unclassified version for public consumption. More curious investigators might have been further interested in the fact, reported in the same piece, that even the more accurate classified version represented a dramatic change in the intelligence community's assessment of the Iraq situation. As Judis and Ackerman observe, when George Tenet offered his January 2002 review of nuclear proliferation issues "he did not even mention a nuclear threat from Iraq."

The main thing that changed over the course of 2002 wasn't anything about the intelligence, it was the fact that the Bush administration wanted to invade Iraq. Consequently, a new, more alarmist intelligence estimate was written up. Then a more alarmist redacted version was released to the public. And the administration's public statements were more alarming still. There were real intelligence failures here, but they were and are dwarfed by the policy failure. This failure was driven by administration hawks such as Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, and Doug Feith who appear to have embraced the deluded conspiracy theories of American Enterprise Institute adjunct fellow Laurie Mylroie (who thanks Wolfowitz in the introduction to her conspiracy-mongering book) and Weekly Standard writer Stephen Hayes (who followed up his entry into the genre with an authorized biography of Dick Cheney) who placed Saddam Hussein at the center of anti-American terrorism around the globe.

This policy failure persisted, of course, up until the very moment at which the decision to go to war was made. By that moment, though few in the United States ever seem inclined to remember it, whatever intelligence failures may or may not have occurred were irrelevant. Inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency and the U.N. were on the ground in Iraq, chasing down leads and searching for illicit weapons of mass destruction programs. They found some missiles whose ranges slightly exceeded what Iraq was permitted to have, and the missiles were duly dismantled. And before the invasion began, Mohammed El Barradei of the IAEA and Hans Blix, then a chief weapons inspector for the U.N., were both telling the world that they'd found no evidence of active weapons of mass destruction programs. Both told the administration that if it had additional intelligence about weapons of mass destruction, it ought to hand that information over to the inspectors so they could check it out.


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Matthew Yglesias is a staff writer at The American Prospect.

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americans did it to themselves
Posted by: masthead on Dec 17, 2008 1:22 AM   
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"...just five read the classified version of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction capabilities."

this shows that we elect representatives either too occupied with personal ambitions or not smart enough to do the job.

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» RE: americans did it to themselves Posted by: orwellturns
» RE: I protest Posted by: Lauren
Victimhood, an exhausting and pathetic
Posted by: weathered on Dec 17, 2008 1:38 AM   
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ploy, a device that shifts responsibilty and deflects the cause.

Its not clever to play the victim, it breeds contempt in perpetuity.

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How can you NOT...
Posted by: corey on Dec 17, 2008 2:08 AM   
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hate Bush?!?!?!

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» it's easy Posted by: EinMD
» RE: it's easy if you are a GOP troll Posted by: texasrodeoqueen
It is pathetic, the machinations of this man.
Posted by: Nightstallion on Dec 17, 2008 2:31 AM   
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There is no fault to be found about giving Veterans raises to their benifits, no bad feeling about giving seniors or the extream poor raises in their benifits. But George, why didn't you do it before it was way too little and so late we still want to lynch you for effect?

You are a goon Georgy Porgy, an unrepentant recalcitrant goon at that! You have raped your own people in your own Country didn't you think we would get pissed about that?

What the fcuk is wrong witchew man? You got no conscience at all? Where is all this arrogance coming from anyway, yo mama?

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delusion
Posted by: sherman on Dec 17, 2008 2:32 AM   
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delusion is denial overcome only by bush taking a real trip to war-torn iraq. let him live among the ppl whose lives he has destroyed, made a living nightmare. let him share, let him feel, then like all that is evil, sadam hussein, let him suffer a humiliating "awakening."

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» RE: delusion Posted by: Iaela
» RE: delusion Posted by: luzmejor
Psychopathology in Politics
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Dec 17, 2008 2:56 AM   
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George W. Bush has narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders, so introspection and remorse aren't in his repertoire. His family consists almost entirely of personality-disordered alcoholics with a knack for accumulating money and power, often referred to as a "prominent" family.

He and his small circle of elite, religious conservatives are the only people who count for anything in his Weltanschauung.

Obama's neocon leanings and center-right politics are disturbing, but he's still several orders of magnitude preferable to Bush and his ilk.

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» RE: Psychopathology in Politics AMEN! Posted by: texasrodeoqueen
Worst President in American History - Bush
Posted by: gwazdos1 on Dec 17, 2008 3:05 AM   
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We the American people will only have Justice for all the wrongs done by Bush, Cheney, Hadley, Tenant, Rice, Rumsfield, Feith, Wolfitz have done. Till War Crimes charges are brought against these people, found gulty and send them to Jail. Don't forget to bring Treason Charges to Karl Rove and Robert Novak for their role in the Outing of Valerie Plame, they also must be found guilty and sent to spend the rest of their lives in Jail. No excuses for this terrible group of people, We the American people the 76% that are intelligent want Justice, not just sending these guys off to a huge financial retirement package while the rest of us struggle each and every day. Remember - 4209 Soldiers killed in Iraq to date, 65,168 Soldiers wounded and have to fight every day for their rightful benefits, while Bobble Head Bush bask in the Sun of Dallas living among the Rich where every day for them is a party!

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Never knew him
Posted by: Perry Logan on Dec 17, 2008 3:31 AM   
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It's hard to believe that, just a few yeats ago, Republicans were questioning the patriotism of anyone who disagreed with this shmuck. Now they act like they never knew him.

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» RE: Never knew him Posted by: texasrodeoqueen
» RE: Never knew him Posted by: AlexLawyer
Bushian Revisionism
Posted by: Tom Degan on Dec 17, 2008 3:39 AM   
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The funniest thing I think I have ever witnessed in my life, is the spectacle of this murderous asshole trying to put a good "Spin" on his tenure in office. Seriously, it really doesn't get any better than that, does it?

Bush: The name will forever more be synonymous with failure, incompetence and corruption.

Poor old Poppy Bush! For the very first time in my life, I am actually starting to feel sorry for the hideous old bastard. What a troubled night's sleep he must have. Can you imagine what he's going through? I suspect he wishes he talked Barb into having an abortion in the early winter of 1945.

He'll be remembered as the worst president in American history, no question about it. Name the lousiest chiefs executive you can think of:

Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Ulysses S Grant
Chester A. Arthur
Benjamen Harrison
Warren G. Harding
Herbert Hoover

They all take a back seat to George Walker Bush.

Senator Caroline Kennedy?

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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» oh, please Posted by: aislinnluv
» RE: Bushian Revisionism Posted by: popeurbanxxiii
» eh? Posted by: aislinnluv
» RE: eh? Posted by: popeurbanxxiii
» RE: Bushian Revisionism Posted by: exvagabond
» Good point Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: Barbara Bush Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Barbara Bush Posted by: Pop
» History Will Vindicate and were is Jimmy Carter... Posted by: theVRWCwhodatesLiberals
» you bitch and moan Posted by: theVRWCwhodatesLiberals
» RE: you bitch and moan Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: Poor old Poppy Bush! Posted by: Sushi
» RE: Bushian Revisionism Posted by: babs
» RE: Bushian Revisionism Posted by: Quannah
WHAT AN AY HOLE!
Posted by: LOVELYT. on Dec 17, 2008 4:01 AM   
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So what now, Georgy? Are you ready to admit that Cheney actually ran it all? "DICK" & "BUSH" What fitting names! Add in an Ay Hole and America will have a complete and nasty, "^uck!"
Justice would be, handing him over to the Iraqis and put grenades and bombs, in every size 10 shoe. Then, not send their remains back to dirty up our soil, anymore. 9-11 was enough! lol
Let's start a petition for war crimes, treason,domestic and world terrorism and flat out lying, against both of them.

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» RE: WHAT AN AY HOLE! Posted by: sangria
the artist in bush
Posted by: jakobci on Dec 17, 2008 4:19 AM   
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The "intelligence failure in Iraq" as bush calls it started with the intelligence failure in the White House...his. It was aided by the lack of intelligence in the media and by congress, both who badly failed the American People..this was deliberate. Both congress and the mainstream medai, for many reasons lack the courage to do the right thing, to represent the people, but then the American People do not pay their wages, special interests do. I know this has all been said before but it needs repeating...maybe the ultimate intelligence failure is with the American Public who fail to understand this and are indifferent to the death and destruction wrought by this administration, be it collateral damage or that of its military. Americans,at times, and at times aided by lies, deception and pr, rush to judgment and action promoted by the government... this has been our history and those who differ are riled and condemned, later to be proven right. Such an arrogance foolish nation the American public seems to be, so easily mislead. Thinking things through does not seem to be something Americans like to do.

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» RE: the artist in bush Posted by: larazzafilms
» RE: Yeah! Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: the artist in bush Posted by: orwellturns
Too Bad.......
Posted by: US Citizen 07 on Dec 17, 2008 4:20 AM   
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Millions of American's, including myself are just sorry the tossed shoe missed it's mark.

I would have paid to see it hit him smack in the face.

I almost cheered for the man.

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» RE: Too Bad....... Posted by: MBFLA
» RE: Too Bad....... Posted by: bobdown
» RE: Too Bad....... Posted by: bobdown
» RE: Too Bad....... Posted by: Lauren
Let's do something about this America, complianing only is not productive in making a change.
Posted by: larazzafilms on Dec 17, 2008 4:53 AM   
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Thank you for being honest and to the point. I as "we the people" could not agree with you more and I encourage you to start a website and petition of "we the people" to bring justice and make a change in politics to bring the power of "we the people" back into politics and force our selected politicians that responsibility definitely comes with the job and not a secure finical and ego package should not be the covert purpose of becoming an elected community official. "You -We The People" start "it" and I will be the proud first to endorse it as "we the people", time to make a real change in politics.

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The Consummate Liar
Posted by: Last Chance on Dec 17, 2008 5:16 AM   
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To become a perfect mountebank, first you must sincerely believe your own fantasies, then reshape the World to make yourself into the hero you want everyone to see. Bush has accomplished that with remarkable talent and skill. He can tell his lies with total conviction and self-assurance. Thus, he lives in his own fantasy World complete.

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» RE: The Consummate Liar Posted by: Lauren
» America Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: America Posted by: Lauren
» RE: The Consummate Liar Posted by: Sushi
Little Bushie Told the Cattle
Posted by: exvagabond on Dec 17, 2008 5:17 AM   
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Little Bushie told the cattle
"One more surge and costly battle,
then Iraq won't be a Waterloo.
Sure, I f**ked it up before,
but gimme 20,000 more,
'cuz otherwise I don't know what to do!"

Where those 20,000 come from,
that's another Bush conundrum:
can't call up the Draft or use The Bomb.
He has never been in warfare,
must think soldiers come from Nowhere,
where he went instead of Viet Nam.

Frikken war is costing Billions,
Bushie even thinks Brazilians,
but his Budget doesn't factor this.
So when he sees some cash to snare-
retirement funds or Medicare-
we may not have a pot in which to piss.

How did this one get elected?
Failure must have been suspected,
but the folks were mad at Mister Bill.
He had played too much at Cupid,
now the Blind have led the Stupid
down the ditch wherever Bushie will.

Bruce Williams
Jan 15, 2007

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Everybody Was in the Luftwaffe
Posted by: jbpazz on Dec 17, 2008 5:24 AM   
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Nobody served in the Storm Troopers. What happened to the 60 millions who voted Bush/Cheney?
Only Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich opposed Bush's every measure.
The self-styled Progressives who make laundry lists of his sins failed to prosecute him for eight years.

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» Still some True Believers Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
» Poor Education Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
» RE: verybody Was in the Luftwaffe Posted by: Tim Chadron
If the Iraq war was right, there is no lesson to be learned, we are robbed even of that
Posted by: mdwoade on Dec 17, 2008 5:28 AM   
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I protested the war before it started, and I never really believed there were WMDs. I have been against this since way before it started. I figured that a disaster in Iraq would at least be a lesson for the future. Now, it seems that even that bright spot has been obliterated. IF Iraq was never a mistake, THEN there is no lesson to be learned; the next time some idiot decides to take the country on a pointless war, no one will look back and say: "Hey wait, remember Iraq". By declaring the war was really a good idea and that things have turned out just fine, Bush and company have been "proved right" and deprived the country the object lesson we deserve. There is a cost to re-writing history. Americans and Iraqis dying in Iraq to prove that war is generally a bad idea would be one thing, Americans and Iraqis dying in Iraq to prove that Bush was right is just obscene.

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» RE: Kerry Posted by: Lauren
Saddam Was Nukeless And Bush Knew It!!
Posted by: PARRYISLE on Dec 17, 2008 5:44 AM   
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It surely would be helpful if our mainstream news media finally put to rest this lie that the Bush/Neocon gang successfully sold "we had faulty intelligience." In fact, they knew the inspectors had successfully disarmed Saddam and his embryonic nuclear programs. But by knowing this it guaranteed they would attack Iraq believing it would be "a slam dunk cakewalk." We should have realized they would never have dared to attack Iraq if they truly believed they possessed a WMD arsenal. This was proven by the policies Washington and London used to deal with North Korea, a nation that had such weaponry and was ready and willing to use them. steve, world war2

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» RE: I Knew It!! Posted by: Lauren
» RE: I Knew It too!! Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: I Knew It too!! Posted by: Lauren
» RE: STAGNATED MAINSTREAM Posted by: americansheep
» RE: STAGNATED MAINSTREAM Posted by: Lauren
What if Bush really believes this?
Posted by: taxidriver on Dec 17, 2008 5:47 AM   
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If Bush truly believes his own explanations, it suggests a man either completely ignorant of events in his own administration, or a man who's delusional and in denial. Or perhaps both.

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» RE: he doesn't CARE! Posted by: Lauren
strategic objectives my foot
Posted by: johnorford on Dec 17, 2008 6:09 AM   
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"Important American strategic objectives were left unfulfilled in Afghanistan,"
Really? What legal and moral right does the USA have for its strategic objectives to have killed some many Afghanis - including women, children and old people - and to what class of person were these objectives important?

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Advisory Team Leader, Republic of Vietnam
Posted by: wolfgangpmay on Dec 17, 2008 6:10 AM   
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The commander is responsible for everything his unit does, or fails to do!

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Caramba
Posted by: Willy on Dec 17, 2008 6:12 AM   
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Unfortunately the Iraq war has been extremely profitable for the war profiteers; I'm afraid it won't stop until it ceases to be profitable.

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» RE: Caramba Posted by: Sushi
the saddest part of all of this is that...
Posted by: ellie on Dec 17, 2008 6:17 AM   
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we know that all the history and civics books from 1st grade on up will be re-written to show wombat as a victim, not the murderous, hideous, psychotic bastard he really is... remember, the vast majority of textbooks are screened first by the texas dept of education...

gee, now where did he buy that house??? where is the fake ranch??? where does bro run the no child left behind program from that has destroyed our educational system???

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Appropriate response to revisionist lies
Posted by: Scarabus on Dec 17, 2008 7:03 AM   
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Let's remember that the Iraqi journalist who tossed the shoes (which Bush dodged by leaning to the left) did so in response to just such revisionist lies. Every time Bush or Rove or Cheney is interviewed during the current campaign to propagate these lies the interviewer should have his or her shoes sitting prominently on the desk, ready for action.

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It's not too late for this numbskull to resign!
Posted by: CovertRage on Dec 17, 2008 7:12 AM   
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It would be the only demonstration of any modicum of decency present in this idiot primate. After all, being the moron who ineptly fell into the pile of his own hot, steaming load he's dangerously lit ablaze inside the White House, and pretending that his ruthless ignorance is somehow anyone's fault but his own does not play well with the American people. We've been watching this play out every moment since the SCOTUS appointed this rascal the first time he lost the election. And, frankly, we've chosen to believe our eyes rather than Dumya. Truman put it best: the buck stops at the desk of the Decider, a position to which Dumya laid notorious claim on several occasions. The pinhead may as well get used to wearing that dunce cap well into infamy for the duration of American history. After all, over the last eight years, Dumya invested so much of himself into becoming the eternal internationally renowned ass for whom he is to be forever known to be. Somewhere, Saddam Hussein is laughing his butt off.

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» RE: And if Bush resigned... Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Actually... Posted by: Cybershaman
BAD INTELLIGENCE?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Dec 17, 2008 7:38 AM   
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Sorry George that's not the way it happened. The facts were manufactured according to your instructions by people who knew better. But they all served their leader. Dissentors were fired. The problem arose when YOUR idea doomed to failure from the beginning went bad, at about week three of the invasion. Over five years and four thousand + Americans lives were spent trying to make you look like something other than the traitor you are. If you ever come out of your stupor and realize what you really did you'll find a way out of your misery all by yourself. As for those who supported you, they are already paying their dues. Writing a "forgive me" book is not enough. The Iraq invasion is the high point of your shameful life. Who's fault are the first 55 years? Had you been born poor you would have been in jail by the time you were 17 years old. You are and always were a 'threat to society'. Your life IS your legacy. Nothing changes just because you write it down. Regrets, if you have any, mean nothing. Just go away. Thanks, ANNA

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» RE: Thank you, ANNA Posted by: Sushi
GWAZDOS1 IS RIGHT
Posted by: bperk on Dec 17, 2008 7:39 AM   
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You said it before I could. I agree with you 100%. The American People should not rest until all these Traitors are put away.

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RE: What a FRAUD!
Posted by: Crazy H on Dec 17, 2008 3:00 PM   
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BWAHAHAHAHahahahaha

That's your funniest line yet, spammer. Talk about a FRAUD. You're fraudulently passing yourself off as a legitimate poster.

What, do you just copy and paste the same comment over and over?

Jerk
Nigerian Needs Help Getting $20,000,000,000 out of the country

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History will be the judge
Posted by: davecollins on Dec 17, 2008 7:41 AM   
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If (and this may be a big if) Iraq is a prosperous and peaceful country in 20 years or so, historians will say Bush did the right thing and will call him a visionary. History has a history of these kind of things happening.

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Twilight Zone
Posted by: SlyGuy on Dec 17, 2008 7:42 AM   
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Rod Serling could not have dreamed a better script.

Shrub wakes to find himself in what appears to be the afterlife. A sonorous voice welcomes him to his new world, the one where he will dwell forever.

What is this place, he asks, looks kinda like a place I once tried to destroy?

And who's that shaggy looking guy in my cell?

And what's a guy to do around here for fun?

Answers the voice: Iraq. Saddam. Contrition, atonement, and by day, you will personally work to near death to rebuild. By night, you will experience a nightmarish world sharing and living the suffering, mutilation, death, fear, and loss of each and every victim of the world of war you inflicted on this nation.

Now that's kharma. Anyone wonder why he refuses to acknowledge responsibility?

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» RE: Twilight Zone Posted by: orwellturns
IS THERE A PETITION???
Posted by: mythmorph on Dec 17, 2008 8:04 AM   
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If anyone knows of a bona fide petition calling for the detainment, arrest, and trial of Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, et. al.,

PLEASE POST THE LINK HERE.

All we are doing in posts like this, is bitching. We need to do much more -- like getting up a petition and collecting MILLIONS of American citizens' signatures toward this end.

Let's DO IT.

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» RE: IS THERE A PETITION??? Posted by: steven w
» Does no good Posted by: Karina
» RE: IS THERE A PETITION??? Posted by: orwellturns
DELUSION?
Posted by: steven w on Dec 17, 2008 8:10 AM   
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or denial?

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As I recall
Posted by: Artkansas on Dec 17, 2008 8:12 AM   
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The fact finders on Bush's team were under much pressure to cherry pick the facts they found. Guess who was applying the pressure? He seems to have conveniently forgotten his role in that. The whole White House seems to have a blank slate there.

This is so much BU**SH**! The most powerful man on the planet is not a victim. He is a murderer and a war criminal. Let justice prevail.

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» RE: As I recall... Posted by: Artkansas
Don't forget Hillary
Posted by: rickiey on Dec 17, 2008 8:17 AM   
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Anyone else remember her "I've been following this problem for the last 17 years, during my time in the white house, and this invasion is necessary" speech?

I do, and that is why it sickens me that she is going to be our new SOS. The rest of the Senate and Congress can claim to have been misled by the Bush Administration, but she openly claimed to have received her knowledge elsewhere.

When the people who instigated this mess are called into account, lets get all of them, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Hillary....

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» RE: Don't forget Hillary Posted by: andrushka
Some observations
Posted by: willymack on Dec 17, 2008 8:47 AM   
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Our "decider" is nothing of the kind: he's along for the ride while the REAL powers that be have damn near ruined this country. Some say they already have, and they may well be right. Back to our prezdint. By now anyone who has a nodding acquaintence with psychology has probably surmized that georgiepoo ain't quite right in the head. Whether it's a personality disorder called sociopathy, a psychosis, or something else, is best evaluated by those with PHDs or MDs behind their names. As a former drug abuse counselor it's my considered opinion that bush is suffering from organic brain syndrome, a catchall phrase used to describe aberrant behavior caused by damage to the brain from toxic substance(s) such as alcohol, for instance. We all know about opinions; everybody's got one. This is mine for what it's worth. Be that as it may there is absoultely NO EXCUSE for bush's criminality, or his associations with other crooks. I can't pretend to know what is going on in bush's nasty mind, nor would I want to get inside it to see what's there. I'd rather wade through a cesspool. One sure way to compound the disasterous effects of the bush crime family's manifold crimes is to let them slither out of any accounting in the way of legal action against them. That would be the ultimate crime in my opinion.

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Worst?
Posted by: JefffromCA on Dec 17, 2008 8:52 AM   
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No, no, no. He is the 43rd best.

Please, let us elect leaders who are the smartest people in the room. No more retards. Mr. Obama is a good start.

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Those who cannot remember the past ...
Posted by: monkeywrench on Dec 17, 2008 9:01 AM   
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From the article:
"... there's no vigorous opposition to Bush's efforts to rewrite history. And that, in turn, is something we may have occasion to regret someday."

Uh, huh.

Just like Bush felt entitled to repeat – and build upon – Richard Nixon's criminality, thanks to President Ford's preemptive pardon of Tricky Dick, and, years later, the media's attempt to shore up Nixon's rotted persona. In Bush's case, I am especially referring to Nixon's most infamous quote: "If the President does it, then it's not illegal."

Apparently, we're going to let yet another criminal president "get away with it" AGAIN, which will virtually guarantee that a dictator will occupy the White House at some point in the future. (Sieg Heil to Der Furher Palin?!)
. . . . .

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
–George Santayana

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caronome
Posted by: Bayardtom on Dec 17, 2008 9:49 AM   
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It was annoying to read this article about the how Bush lied us into the Iraqi war. Who didn't know that? But what was annoying was that there was somebody who knew the truth all the time and nobody listened to him, namely Dennis Kucinich. He warned us all of the truth. Of course after the war was in full swing, we all got the Downing Street report that did tell the truth-that Bush and Blair cooked the whole story up so that they could invade Iraq.

This whole fiasco of Bush trying to obsolve himself of his crimes is sickening. If anybody else saw his statment about it on TV with Laura sitting beside him, you must have seen her glassy-eyed expression when he was lying his ass off. How can anybody live with that kind of deceit?

It's a good thing that there are so many of out here who do know the truth and are writing it. But that will not be enough! We must make sure that those responsible for this hideous war and the deaths and the maiming of so many of our young people and those of Iraq pay for it with their freedom. Bush and his buddies who perpetrated this event must be held accountable.


The members of the Bush crime family deliberately lied so they could invade Iraq and steal their oil. Lest we forget, these people are oil people and they do know that business. It's just the business of honestly running the country they swore to protect that they didn't care to observe.

At least Colin Powell has come forward and said that the Bush administration was lying all the time about the situation in Iraq but it's a little late.

So, once again, write, email, call or visit your representatives and make sure that they know how you feel about impeachment. Forget traitor Pelosi and whatever deal she made with that devil but she will pay for it somehow. These people must be prosecuted and as soon as possible.

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» RE: caronome Posted by: andrushka
Puddle of Humanity
Posted by: Dixie Dawg on Dec 17, 2008 9:54 AM   
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His decayed power is gone. All he is left with is a puddle of humanity. Predictably, he doesn't even know what to do with that.

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» RE: Puddle of Humanity Posted by: VZEQICVA
There should be a "Presidential Restitution" law
Posted by: zooeyhall on Dec 17, 2008 10:40 AM   
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You know how they have these laws that keep criminals from profiting from their crimes? So that they can't make money from selling TV movie rights or stuff like that? I think there should be something like that with ex-presidents.

Of course you just KNOW what's gonna happen once Bush is out of office after Jan 20. He'll have a whole line-up of speaking engagements at $100,000 a pop. And there will be all those contributors who will donate $millions$ to the "Bush Presidency Library and Archive". To which all those people will go who still believe in Bush--you know the idiotic 20% who still think he's doing a great job.

I think the Justice Department should sieze all those donations and speaking fees and use it for restitution for some of Bush's victims. Maybe restitution for Guantanamo prisoners or Iraq rebuilding.

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Change??????
Posted by: biwee on Dec 17, 2008 10:53 AM   
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This lunacy of unnecessary wars of choice will not CHANGE until America stops operating for the benefit of Israel, and starts operating for the benefit of Americans. The current NeoCon effort to place the blame for the war in Iraq on "bad" intelligence is a scam. If one reads the writing of Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neil, it is clear that a war against Iraq was at the top of the Bush list of things to do from 20 Jan 2001. The Brits, in the infamous "Downing
St memo", knew that the intelligence was being falsified to support a war on Iraq. Zionist NeoCons like Feith, Wolfowitz, Perle, Miller, Krauthammer and Kristol, and the AIPAC and AEI crowd all pushed for this war of choice to knock off an enemy of Israel. Now that it has backfired hugely, watch the vermin liars squirm. But, these UNAMERICAN worms will continue to push for an American war on Iran. Of course, these vermin did not serve a day in the US military, nor will their kids. But, they have no problems with YOUR kids dying in unnecessary wars.

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"For once the rich, white man is in charge"
Posted by: sonofloud on Dec 17, 2008 11:02 AM   
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- Monty Burns

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» Doh! Posted by: Cathyc
Oxy-Moron! .....Bad Intelligence is not Intelligence at all.
Posted by: common intelligence on Dec 17, 2008 11:16 AM   
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No Pity I say!

This self servient "A" is doing just what the authors says.

If domestic criminals played his cover up wordsmithing games, They'd be locked up just the same.
This knee-jerk reactionary Bush master can not hide from his crimes against humanity.

The numbers of those that have suffered and growing as his policies continue their dismal effects are staggering. But The American people have been too preoccupied with loosing their materialistic ways they don't give this illqualified, over zealous, errogant, bastard any attention in so far as seeing that he is made accountable.

Bush said," ..I take full responsibility".

Well Jack, DO it!

He must pay for his crimes and utter and complete disruption of life for millions of people around the world.

He can't blame terrorist for the part for he played in escalating a world wide economic break down because he wasn't attending to Homeland Security right here in our country. From Katrina to covering up truth of 911 to the economic collapse. The Cat must be let out of the bag.
The lies and distractions by media continue to ignor the elephantS in the room. Perpetuating the denial within the US population it's self is a crime. It can not be denied calling this all a cover-up, by propaganda.

• Domestic Spying is still going on.
• Habeus Corpus is still not a right,
• Military Commisions act is still in motion.
• The bastard is still sending missles, drones, bombing attacks and the people here are still paying bounty hunters (Black Water), and the US continues $300/month serverance pay to each Iraqi not to fight against our colonialism.

• Americans have no health care, Retirement and Social security has been raided and obsconded with the $.

• The bastards that have been allowed to destroy the nations economy (if it really ever had one) are still in power.
• No one have ever faced charges for security failures becuase of 911
• Hey, Rummy, where's the over 2 trillion dollars that was lost

Man, the criminals are all free as jay birds.
What is it the congress and the vast American people not realize?

Lastly Push for Impeachment, & Accountability

Then the nation and the world can begin to heal.

Never let your children not realize that without accountability the government can never ever be trusted.

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Matt's deluded conspiracy theories
Posted by: leafsong1 on Dec 17, 2008 11:23 AM   
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Please, we've gotten through the first couple layers of deception, can we just cut to the truth? Nobody with any brains gave Mylorie and her ilk any credulity. Clearly, Mylorie et al were a part of the intellignce manufacturing/propaganda campaign to win public support for the criminal invasion. Cheney didn't believe it, Cheney is just a lying criminal. Get Real, Matt.

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It should not be forgotten
Posted by: leafsong1 on Dec 17, 2008 11:29 AM   
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in all the controversy over the intelligence that, even if every fabrication used to justify the war were factual and true, it still would not amount to a legitimate causus belli and everyone involved, Democrat and Republican, neo-liberal and neo-con, president, senator and soldier, would still be a war criminal. The contents of the intelligence dossiers, their factual accuracy, how they were produced, whether legislators read them, whether legislators believed them---all of this is entirely irrelevant. The invasion was aggressive war.

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My archives are up to 32158
Posted by: DaBear on Dec 17, 2008 11:41 AM   
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32158 articles in 8 years of the junta. Seems kinda small to me but that's how many separate articles documenting the corruption of GWB (my archives with articles for members of his junta exceeds the half million mark) are in my archives.

Pathetic for him to get all boo-booey. If he comes in my town, I'm holding up my shoes, soles facing him. If he dares to stop for a drink, I'm fucking punching the bastard. The man couldn't be put in jail fast enough.

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» RE: My archives are up to 32158 Posted by: TheProphet
Republican Party Victim Myth
Posted by: bobtr900 on Dec 17, 2008 12:01 PM   
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Republicans always think they are victims, they suffer at the hands of us meanie liberals or some other minority group.

This is what John Dean and Barry Goldwater were trying to say in their last book, written just before Goldwater died. They put forth the idea that the Republican party has degenerated into a bunch of people who always feel they are being victimized by everybody else. This is what the authoritarian personality is all about, people who are always playing the victim game instead of taking responsibility for ones own life they always want some authority figure to tell them what they must do to keep everything the same ( same = conservativism) and running 'as-is'. They live in some kind of mortal fear that doing anything even a bit different will make the 'sky fall' and lead to some kind of disaster, for them. They don't care about anyone else, it's just all about them, and their fears. We liberals know life is not guaranteed. They live in great fear of any instability. They are fearful people. For them it IS very real.

This is also why Repubs align so well with religion, it too always thinks it is being attacked by the "other", some "other". The "other" is the people who think differently, that is we liberals. So to maintain their power they are always attacking the "other", us liberals or anyone who deigns to think differently, like we liberals, or gays, or Islamofascists, or all of those evil Iraqis who have all those WMDs, or legal Hispanics, or African Americans, or, or, or, or ... For the authoritarians there is ALWAYS another "or" group, the other who threaten them, like Obama, who is another other.

Authoritaerians are very formulaic people. They think that by following certain formulas or proscriptions for living the sky will not fall, Chicken Little will survive and life will be oh so very safe and secure. Republicans have the victimology mindset down pat, and are always playing that game. Because of that mindset they truly are always living in fear.

That is also and used to be their business philosophy, that if they did not follow exact formulas thier businesses would fail. IOW, take away their African slaves and their businesses will fail. Well of course that is true because their business model was predicated on using slave labor for their economic survival. Take away their slaves and strike economic terror in their evil flinty hearts. Their business model is based on the degradation of others, the other, the different ones, those dark people.

Religion is the same way, the "other" is a threat, it is someone to be feared and controlled. Religion now fears women and gays, of whom neither fit into their male model of religion. So they threaten because they think everyone else is threatening them.

My best guess is that someone important will die in the next few years. So far it has been Afghanis and Iraqis and our troops. It was also some of us liberals, for example those members of that Unitarian Church in Tennessee and that Democratic party official in Arkansas. In the past the other who had to die has been Jews, women, Gays and Blacks. Should the Secret Service fail, Obama or Biden will die. Some religious leader somewhere may die, which will cause a massive disaster, probably including lots of deaths of very ordinary everyday people who will take the blame for the death of that religious leader. Though it will be done by a single person or a small group of people many people will take the blame and suffer for it.

A perfect example is the fact that a very few Jews (probably 6-8) called for the death of Jesus. Yet ever since then the entire Jewish diaspora has been paying the price for that single event, done by a very few. That is a perfect example of religious hatred, the hatred of one religious group for another.

Oh welll...

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» RE: epublican Party Victim Myth Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson
Put Bush in jail.
Posted by: myersqi on Dec 17, 2008 2:04 PM   
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Americans come from many countries. We should respect each other and work together and make this country better. But criminal Bush abuse power and racialst and seperate American people and make more enemies. He only care how much money his family make. He is the worst president in all history. Put Bush in jail for his against constitution!

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There's something even worse
Posted by: helenwheels on Dec 17, 2008 2:13 PM   
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In my opinion, even more shocking than the unbelievable disconnect and historical revisionism of the shrub is Dead-Eye Dick's admission on national television that he committed a war crime. Jonathan Turley is 100% correct when he says the failure of our citizenry to act against this evil cabal is incredibly dangerous to the country's future.

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Some Peoples' Brains Just Work Differently
Posted by: gradioc on Dec 17, 2008 4:08 PM   
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Some people passionately and fully believe that what they wish to be true IS true. Cutting taxes raises revenue. Telling teenagers the truth about sex is what makes them want to do it. All poor people are just lazy. All these people losing their houses are theives who were trying to rip off the poor banks. The people who think that way were just waiting for somebody like Ahmed Chalabi (and his pet intelligence source, Screwball) to walk in and tell them they were right all along. They could not be wrong. Everybody who disagreed were just fools. dupes, or traitors. Had they (the Neocons) been lying intentionally, it would have been simple for just one barrel of Sarin to show up, and, viola, he had WMD. No, these idiots actually believed every bit of crap they spouted. More's the pity, especially for the US electorate who trusted them.

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» The US electorate Posted by: Cathyc
Bush was a stooge of the neocon warmongers
Posted by: Garvagh on Dec 17, 2008 4:55 PM   
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Bravo! What a pathetic effort by G W Bush to tell enough lies at this point in an obvious effort to cover up his own astounding incompetence and rank stupidity in invading Iraq against the strongest warnings from Syria, Turkey, Russia, Iran - - not to mention Germany and France - - that the invasion would trigger a vicious civil war. Truly a "serial bungler" as the Financial Times called him yesterday.

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An INCORRUPTIBLE leader. Is this ever possible? Some say, "YES!"
Posted by: global_commoner on Dec 17, 2008 6:21 PM   
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The end of corruption and greed is near.

We need a leader who is incapable of corruption...who looks out for ALL humanity, especially the poor and underprivileged. We need a teacher who can show us the way forward, into a brighter future of peace based on justice and freedom.

Some think such a GREAT ONE is already here, and about to step forward into the public.

Look for an unusually bright star to appear in the sky soon. This will signal the start of a whole new chapter for mankind.

www.WakeUpMankind.org

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fedupalready
Posted by: reallyfedup on Dec 17, 2008 7:46 PM   
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Bush is living out his fantasy of his new other world order. Just think about it - creating a Presidential Library complete with his new other world order legacy.

We could all pay tribute to his new other world order fantasy by stopping by the White House, while he is still there and dropping off a present of our appreciation. We could drop a shoe off or two. Of course, I wouldn't recommend throwing it, but we could drop them off. I can see it now, 60 million or so pairs of shoes in his tribute.

Another idea would be to start a collection of shoes to give to him as a house warming present for his new house. Can you see it? Truck loads full of shoes packing the gated streets leading to his house.

Also, we could keep the legend going by dropping off a shoe or two at his new Presidential Library for at least a century or so to keep the fitting shoe donated from every person until he is known as "The Shoe President deserving of every insult". Just think of the legacy he would have. At least it would be full of sole.

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Bush is OVER
Posted by: PaulK on Dec 17, 2008 7:46 PM   
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W. Bush has 30 days left to abuse the American legal system and the constitution, and then he is politically over. No Republican wants to touch him. The man will live his public life with a shoe flying across the screen. His rich friends will throw a few quiet parties in his honor.

Otherwise W. Bush will go home. He will have an open bottle of bourbon, a bowl of pretzels and a football game on the TV. He won't do anything. Maybe his prayer circle will do something for him, but maybe not. We'll find out if Laura intended to leave him after the Presidency ended.

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» RE: Bush is OVER Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson
stinkin' thinkin'...
Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Dec 17, 2008 9:01 PM   
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as my late husband used to say...

bush exhibits typical alcoholic/cocaine addicted behavior...alcohol in particular changes the brain permanently so even if he isn't using he's still an alcoholic and still has alcoholic thinking.

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FACT: Bush and Cheney Are Criminals
Posted by: left_libertarian on Dec 17, 2008 9:11 PM   
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And by not impeaching them for their many crimes, the Democratic Party is complicit.

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DAMN BUSH/CHENY TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: nesstoria on Dec 17, 2008 10:27 PM   
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Bush/Cheney should be in jail.They are MORE DANGEROUS than any terrorist,I've ever heard of.They are the terrorists and by the way,no different from Hussein or Bin Lauden!!!What the fuck is wrong w/us?We should organize a mass protest and demand JUSTICE!!!!

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Bush has no idea what he's done to this country. No clue!
Posted by: WilliamF on Dec 18, 2008 6:02 AM   
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This is a man who has escaped impeachment but who should not escape prosecution. The Constitution was torn asunder in his administration with insults to the sacred ideals of democracy by removing Habeus Corpus, authorizing torture (what a Christian he is), scooping people off the street at night and rendering them to foreign countries who did his dirty work. This is not to forget what his administration did to Plame. He has been secretive, threatening and started a war that need not have been started. The blood of our warrioors is on his hands. Noble though they were their president (using the term loosely) gave them an ignoble cause. Secrecy, torture, kidnapping, the raping of the constitution, and a Bush beauracracy gone wild...chronyism to the extreme...the result of which we are seeing in the finacial Hiroshima of our time. Bad Bush, Worst Bush, where is his courage and his mea culpa? The answer to which is that this draft dodger and all his draft dodging friends had bluster but absolutely no courage. George Bush, no. 1 in the hall of shame.

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There are 4 government branches
Posted by: javajoe on Dec 18, 2008 7:10 AM   
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The 4 Government branches are The Legislative The Executive The Judicial and THE PEOPLE! The People have too often neglected their Duties as Citizens. If The People don't become more politically active, the next generation likely will have to deal with a mess like the one we have now! "Eternal Vigilance is the Price of Liberty!"

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» RE: There are 4 government branches Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson
THE HOLY EARTHLY GENOCIDE TRINITY OF THE BLOODTHIRSTY ORGIES AT LAS AZORES
Posted by: Vicario on Dec 18, 2008 2:47 PM   
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The EARTHLY TRINITY composed in PRESENCE of GOD by BUSHITLER, BLAIRAT and ASSNAROPUSDEI have PROSTITUTED with the ESSENCE of HUMAN RIGHTS, STEPPED on CHRIST DOCTRINE, HUMAN RIGHTS, LEGALITY, MORALITY and PISSED on his HOLY CROSS. They have given the synonym SATANITY to CHRISTIANITY and DAMNATION to the BEATITUDES that SAVIOUR CHRIST preached among RATIONAL INDIVIDUALS. BEATITUDES were applied on the RATS OF DRAINGES and later on, they appeared on the STAGE of LIFE in INVISIBLE CASSOCKS to speak the WORD of GOD, based on LIES, ASSAULT on REASON, FAITH on TORTURES, CANNIBALISM CONCEPTS, UNFOUNDED PRECEPTS, UNPRECEDENTED IMMORALITIES, DAMN DOCTRINES, WAR ON ERRORISM, TERRORISM IDEOLOGIES, DEVILISH APOSTLESHIP and THEOLOGIES from POLITICS. They gave BIRTH to the NEW IMPROVED and PERFECTED MEDIEVALIZED CRUSADES. The INNOVATORS of CRUSADES and HOLOCAUSTS have no SHAME or MERCIFUL before WORLDWIDE NATIONS. WORLD LEADERS seemed to have PULL AND WEAR BALLS, as they have had their MOUTHS SEALED. There are no PLACE for COWARDS and the only PLACE is BOOKED for JUSTICE and HUMAN RIGHT which can never be DEFEATED by the most SOPHISTIC ARMAMENTS, INCOHERENT EMPIRES, SHAMELESS OPUS DEI or OPUS DEI and the GERMAN PASTOR WITHOUT DEGREE AT THE VATICAN PLANET or PENTAGON.

VICARIO : EX OPUS DEI SUPERNUMERARY
VICARIO : EX ELITIST EDUCATOR FOR OPUS DEI.
VICARIO : EX MEMBER AND EDUCATOR FOR 32 YEARS.

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Madame Riverotter
Posted by: Madame Riverotter on Dec 19, 2008 5:07 AM   
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This man and his administration need to be brought up on war crimes charges; and before any of you get on your high horses I did not vote for him or the Cheney-Monster in either of their terms of power.
In the eight years they have stood as the figure and power bases (respectively) the have utterly and miserably immersed America in a War She cannot win and has no right being in (very sorry Veterans, I respect and love you dearly but this is my opinion). While using the Country as a cover these two and their cronies have bled money out of not only the Armed Forces by placing personal contracts and companies in Iraq; but also in Lousiana and the Gulf States to profit by Hurricane Katrina when that great disaster hit.
These men and women should be brought up on Federal crimes of Warmongering, Racketeering, Profiteering, Torturing (before Found Guilty), and Gods know What Else.
Thank you for Reading This. Please Throw Small Rocks, I'm An Elderly Otter.

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» RE: Madame Riverotter Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson
Bush is not the first revisionist in history
Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson on Dec 20, 2008 7:13 AM   
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In the beginning of the Bush administration media was comparing the Bush and Adams family. The fathers and sons were both Presidents. This is not the first President who tried to re-write history and remove his political enemies from power with sex scandals, etc. by the media.

Have you seen the Afro-American writer who claims Thomas Jefferson was abusive to her ancestor the slave Sally Hemmings on the History Channel? She claims they had an affair and there is a DNA gene traced to a male ancestor of Jefferson's brother. Jefferson's brother may have had the affair with Sally the slave. Who knows since Jefferson had no male heirs. Thomas Jefferson only had a daughter. Jefferson's brother ran the Jefferson estate when Thomas was in DC, etc. Thomas Jefferson is not here to defend himself.

Even if Jefferson knew his brother had the affair or children with a black slave he wouldn't say anything. It was against the law to marry a slave in Virginia. The family would have been shamed and even jailed. Thomas Jefferson or the brother may have loved her but couldn't marry. Why is the author so angry about her ancestor except she is trying to prove her ancestor was abused by "democratic loving" President Thomas Jefferson? It may have been consentual. She's determined to ruin him today.

All Progressive Democrats, reformers, and freedom loving Founding Fathers are being attacked and history re-written (but Adams whose history gets better all the time).

I read a book about Alexander Hamilton and the author kept trying to make out he was gay...over and over. It ruined the whole story and the author's credibility. It was apparent that the author disliked Hamilton. The author tried to prove himself over and over but had no real proof. Again Hamilton is not hear to defend himself. Hamilton was married and loved his wife and children. He almost died defending us from the British. No politician today would do that for their country.

Beside Adams Lincoln is a favorite on CSPAN and the History Channel. Lincoln was the first Republican (a "War President" like Bush). Lincoln would not have approved of RW Republicans today. He wanted evangelicals out of the government. He gave them no funding or power. He wanted to keep the union and stop the fighting. He was no globalist seeking to attack other nations for their resources and wealth. No torture was encouraged. He treated the enemy soldiers with respect since he knew it would heal the union in the end. Lincoln wanted to reward the Afro-Americans who fought in the war with voting rights and freedom.

Republicans today have lost their way by removing everyone's rights and freedoms. Instead they are about fear and tyranny.

The History Channel (Disney owned) has been trying to ruin Jefferson's legacy and prop up President Adams. They didn't agree on the people having rule (the few elite should decide) and are using propaganda to destroy democracy. Jefferson was very liberal and loved by all. He believed in rule by "We the people". He believed democracy is a natural state for man. Adams was an Anglophile. Adams tried to start a war against France after they helped us defeat the British. The French went into debt trying to help us. He hated their free ways of love, etc. (he forgot the Brits weren't saints).

Adams passed the Sedition Act which was similar to the Patriot Act so he could do war against France. Adams was not liked because of the Sedition Act, his stiff manner, and judgmental temperment. Not a good looking man either. I feel he was jealous of Jefferson. Adams read his Bible everyday and wrote his in his diary so history would not forget his accomplishments, etc. He was a very religious man who believed in killing the French. Jefferson defeated Adams in the election for President. Jefferson's first act was to repeal the hated Sedition Act.

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PHONY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS
Posted by: SEDGFLD on Dec 20, 2008 9:32 AM   
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His actions, once again fly in the face of the alleged religious faith he claims to adhere to and believe. It's blasphemous for a mere human being to never accept responsibility for his or her own bad actions, as if they are perfect.
I wonder what "God said" to him about this in their "conversations"

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syed salamah ali mahdi
Posted by: salamah on Dec 20, 2008 10:42 PM   
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American 'elections' are all about local, regional, social and religious (NOT ETHICAL-NOT HUMANITARIAN) issues. Period! These are the issues Wall Street, Main Street, Churches,Oil/Defense Conglomerates, Main Stream Media and 'Lobbies' want 'elections' to be fought on. Foreign Policy issues? What Foreign Policy? Who cares! Even Barack Obama is moving into the Oval Office shackled with AIPAC chains! Other than cosmetic changes here and there, US Foreign Policy for/in the Middle East, will remain as is!

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Bad ideology rather than bad intelligence.
Posted by: whealeydj on Dec 21, 2008 5:22 AM   
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The intelligence was cherry picked by the pro war ideologues who dominated the Bush regime. Bush was installed by the right wing ideologues on the Supreme Court. The right wing ideologues ignored the warnings that led to 9/11 tragedy and they reacted as knee jerk militarists by attacking Taliban in Afghanistan, but the victory came too quick and went to the Northern Alliance rather than our glorious American military. Rather than rebuilding Afghanistan the militarists did what they do best, organized another invasion that would show American power again. The intelligence was fixed (cherry picked) to attain the objective. We all know the consequences of Iraq Fiasco but we should think about the future. What sort of ideology will rule the Obama administration? I was underwhelmed by Obama's choices to go with the experience Clintonista neoliberal ideologues in foreign policy. When Obama justified the diversity of his selections I thought where is Noam Chomsky because having Chomsky on the team who show a real commitment to ending a militaristic interventionist foreign policy group-think which has dominated DC since 1940. Can we do in 2009 what we should have done in 2002- rebuild Afghanistan? Is Obama surging troop in Afghanistan likely to lead to success and what does success look like? what are American objectives in Afghanistan? Brezhnev was in favor of a Soviet troop surge in Afghanistan too. I certainly hope that 2009 does not see a tragedy like 9/11 due to the arrogance of Obama's ideologues combined with a commitment to the errors of previous administrations

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What's amazing to me
Posted by: PressurePoint on Dec 22, 2008 7:12 PM   
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is that this "two bit" punk was president of our country for 8 years. Like Alfred E. Neuman without self-knowledge of his shortcomings.

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W, this shoe is for you
Posted by: darter22 on Dec 26, 2008 8:56 PM   
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You are not a victim. Your ignorance and arrogance caused you be to a failure. FAIL!

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