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Bush Tries to Whitewash History; Portrays Himself as a Victim
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It's tiresome to need to point this out at this late date but, yes, George W. Bush and his administration misled the country while making the case for war with Iraq and, remarkably, are still trying to mislead people about it. In a Dec. 1 interview with ABC News' Charlie Gibson, Bush said that "the biggest regret" of his presidency was "the intelligence failure in Iraq."
In other words, his biggest regret wasn't regret over anything he did but rather regret over something that was done to him, a vague "intelligence failure" rather than a misguided decision to invade another country. Bush explained that "a lot of people put their reputations on the line and said the weapons of mass destruction is a reason to remove Saddam Hussein. It wasn't just people in my administration; a lot of members in Congress, prior to my arrival in Washington, D.C., during the debate on Iraq, a lot of leaders of nations around the world were all looking at the same intelligence."
This is, even by Bush standards, a pretty breathtaking revision of history. In fact, very few members of Congress looked at the intelligence -- Thomas Ricks reports in his book Fiasco that just five read the classified version of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction capabilities. But had more members taken the time, they would have found what Spencer Ackerman and John Judis reported back in June of 2003 -- that the Bush administration removed a number of caveats and contrary pieces of evidence from the classified version of the estimate when producing a shorter, unclassified version for public consumption. More curious investigators might have been further interested in the fact, reported in the same piece, that even the more accurate classified version represented a dramatic change in the intelligence community's assessment of the Iraq situation. As Judis and Ackerman observe, when George Tenet offered his January 2002 review of nuclear proliferation issues "he did not even mention a nuclear threat from Iraq."
The main thing that changed over the course of 2002 wasn't anything about the intelligence, it was the fact that the Bush administration wanted to invade Iraq. Consequently, a new, more alarmist intelligence estimate was written up. Then a more alarmist redacted version was released to the public. And the administration's public statements were more alarming still. There were real intelligence failures here, but they were and are dwarfed by the policy failure. This failure was driven by administration hawks such as Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, and Doug Feith who appear to have embraced the deluded conspiracy theories of American Enterprise Institute adjunct fellow Laurie Mylroie (who thanks Wolfowitz in the introduction to her conspiracy-mongering book) and Weekly Standard writer Stephen Hayes (who followed up his entry into the genre with an authorized biography of Dick Cheney) who placed Saddam Hussein at the center of anti-American terrorism around the globe.
This policy failure persisted, of course, up until the very moment at which the decision to go to war was made. By that moment, though few in the United States ever seem inclined to remember it, whatever intelligence failures may or may not have occurred were irrelevant. Inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency and the U.N. were on the ground in Iraq, chasing down leads and searching for illicit weapons of mass destruction programs. They found some missiles whose ranges slightly exceeded what Iraq was permitted to have, and the missiles were duly dismantled. And before the invasion began, Mohammed El Barradei of the IAEA and Hans Blix, then a chief weapons inspector for the U.N., were both telling the world that they'd found no evidence of active weapons of mass destruction programs. Both told the administration that if it had additional intelligence about weapons of mass destruction, it ought to hand that information over to the inspectors so they could check it out.
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Posted by: masthead on Dec 17, 2008 1:22 AM
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this shows that we elect representatives either too occupied with personal ambitions or not smart enough to do the job.
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» it's a characteristic of a sociopath to play victim and shirk responsiblity for failures
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Posted by: weathered on Dec 17, 2008 1:38 AM
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Its not clever to play the victim, it breeds contempt in perpetuity.
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Posted by: corey on Dec 17, 2008 2:08 AM
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Posted by: Nightstallion on Dec 17, 2008 2:31 AM
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You are a goon Georgy Porgy, an unrepentant recalcitrant goon at that! You have raped your own people in your own Country didn't you think we would get pissed about that?
What the fcuk is wrong witchew man? You got no conscience at all? Where is all this arrogance coming from anyway, yo mama?
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Posted by: sherman on Dec 17, 2008 2:32 AM
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Posted by: AlexLawyer on Dec 17, 2008 2:56 AM
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He and his small circle of elite, religious conservatives are the only people who count for anything in his Weltanschauung.
Obama's neocon leanings and center-right politics are disturbing, but he's still several orders of magnitude preferable to Bush and his ilk.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Dec 17, 2008 3:31 AM
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Dec 17, 2008 3:39 AM
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Bush: The name will forever more be synonymous with failure, incompetence and corruption.
Poor old Poppy Bush! For the very first time in my life, I am actually starting to feel sorry for the hideous old bastard. What a troubled night's sleep he must have. Can you imagine what he's going through? I suspect he wishes he talked Barb into having an abortion in the early winter of 1945.
He'll be remembered as the worst president in American history, no question about it. Name the lousiest chiefs executive you can think of:
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Ulysses S Grant
Chester A. Arthur
Benjamen Harrison
Warren G. Harding
Herbert Hoover
They all take a back seat to George Walker Bush.
Senator Caroline Kennedy?
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
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» eh?
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Posted by: LOVELYT. on Dec 17, 2008 4:01 AM
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Justice would be, handing him over to the Iraqis and put grenades and bombs, in every size 10 shoe. Then, not send their remains back to dirty up our soil, anymore. 9-11 was enough! lol
Let's start a petition for war crimes, treason,domestic and world terrorism and flat out lying, against both of them.
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Posted by: jakobci on Dec 17, 2008 4:19 AM
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Posted by: US Citizen 07 on Dec 17, 2008 4:20 AM
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I would have paid to see it hit him smack in the face.
I almost cheered for the man.
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Posted by: exvagabond on Dec 17, 2008 5:17 AM
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"One more surge and costly battle,
then Iraq won't be a Waterloo.
Sure, I f**ked it up before,
but gimme 20,000 more,
'cuz otherwise I don't know what to do!"
Where those 20,000 come from,
that's another Bush conundrum:
can't call up the Draft or use The Bomb.
He has never been in warfare,
must think soldiers come from Nowhere,
where he went instead of Viet Nam.
Frikken war is costing Billions,
Bushie even thinks Brazilians,
but his Budget doesn't factor this.
So when he sees some cash to snare-
retirement funds or Medicare-
we may not have a pot in which to piss.
How did this one get elected?
Failure must have been suspected,
but the folks were mad at Mister Bill.
He had played too much at Cupid,
now the Blind have led the Stupid
down the ditch wherever Bushie will.
Bruce Williams
Jan 15, 2007
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Posted by: jbpazz on Dec 17, 2008 5:24 AM
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Only Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich opposed Bush's every measure.
The self-styled Progressives who make laundry lists of his sins failed to prosecute him for eight years.
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Posted by: johnorford on Dec 17, 2008 6:09 AM
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Really? What legal and moral right does the USA have for its strategic objectives to have killed some many Afghanis - including women, children and old people - and to what class of person were these objectives important?
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» RE: what strategic objectives? These.
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» RE: what strategic objectives? These.
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Posted by: ellie on Dec 17, 2008 6:17 AM
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gee, now where did he buy that house??? where is the fake ranch??? where does bro run the no child left behind program from that has destroyed our educational system???
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Posted by: Crazy H on Dec 17, 2008 3:00 PM
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That's your funniest line yet, spammer. Talk about a FRAUD. You're fraudulently passing yourself off as a legitimate poster.
What, do you just copy and paste the same comment over and over?
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Posted by: SlyGuy on Dec 17, 2008 7:42 AM
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Shrub wakes to find himself in what appears to be the afterlife. A sonorous voice welcomes him to his new world, the one where he will dwell forever.
What is this place, he asks, looks kinda like a place I once tried to destroy?
And who's that shaggy looking guy in my cell?
And what's a guy to do around here for fun?
Answers the voice: Iraq. Saddam. Contrition, atonement, and by day, you will personally work to near death to rebuild. By night, you will experience a nightmarish world sharing and living the suffering, mutilation, death, fear, and loss of each and every victim of the world of war you inflicted on this nation.
Now that's kharma. Anyone wonder why he refuses to acknowledge responsibility?
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Posted by: mythmorph on Dec 17, 2008 8:04 AM
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PLEASE POST THE LINK HERE.
All we are doing in posts like this, is bitching. We need to do much more -- like getting up a petition and collecting MILLIONS of American citizens' signatures toward this end.
Let's DO IT.
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Posted by: steven w on Dec 17, 2008 8:10 AM
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Posted by: Artkansas on Dec 17, 2008 8:12 AM
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This is so much BU**SH**! The most powerful man on the planet is not a victim. He is a murderer and a war criminal. Let justice prevail.
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Posted by: rickiey on Dec 17, 2008 8:17 AM
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I do, and that is why it sickens me that she is going to be our new SOS. The rest of the Senate and Congress can claim to have been misled by the Bush Administration, but she openly claimed to have received her knowledge elsewhere.
When the people who instigated this mess are called into account, lets get all of them, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Hillary....
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Posted by: willymack on Dec 17, 2008 8:47 AM
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Posted by: JefffromCA on Dec 17, 2008 8:52 AM
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Please, let us elect leaders who are the smartest people in the room. No more retards. Mr. Obama is a good start.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Dec 17, 2008 9:01 AM
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"... there's no vigorous opposition to Bush's efforts to rewrite history. And that, in turn, is something we may have occasion to regret someday."
Uh, huh.
Just like Bush felt entitled to repeat – and build upon – Richard Nixon's criminality, thanks to President Ford's preemptive pardon of Tricky Dick, and, years later, the media's attempt to shore up Nixon's rotted persona. In Bush's case, I am especially referring to Nixon's most infamous quote: "If the President does it, then it's not illegal."
Apparently, we're going to let yet another criminal president "get away with it" AGAIN, which will virtually guarantee that a dictator will occupy the White House at some point in the future. (Sieg Heil to Der Furher Palin?!)
. . . . .
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
–George Santayana
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Posted by: Bayardtom on Dec 17, 2008 9:49 AM
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This whole fiasco of Bush trying to obsolve himself of his crimes is sickening. If anybody else saw his statment about it on TV with Laura sitting beside him, you must have seen her glassy-eyed expression when he was lying his ass off. How can anybody live with that kind of deceit?
It's a good thing that there are so many of out here who do know the truth and are writing it. But that will not be enough! We must make sure that those responsible for this hideous war and the deaths and the maiming of so many of our young people and those of Iraq pay for it with their freedom. Bush and his buddies who perpetrated this event must be held accountable.
The members of the Bush crime family deliberately lied so they could invade Iraq and steal their oil. Lest we forget, these people are oil people and they do know that business. It's just the business of honestly running the country they swore to protect that they didn't care to observe.
At least Colin Powell has come forward and said that the Bush administration was lying all the time about the situation in Iraq but it's a little late.
So, once again, write, email, call or visit your representatives and make sure that they know how you feel about impeachment. Forget traitor Pelosi and whatever deal she made with that devil but she will pay for it somehow. These people must be prosecuted and as soon as possible.
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Dec 17, 2008 10:40 AM
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Of course you just KNOW what's gonna happen once Bush is out of office after Jan 20. He'll have a whole line-up of speaking engagements at $100,000 a pop. And there will be all those contributors who will donate $millions$ to the "Bush Presidency Library and Archive". To which all those people will go who still believe in Bush--you know the idiotic 20% who still think he's doing a great job.
I think the Justice Department should sieze all those donations and speaking fees and use it for restitution for some of Bush's victims. Maybe restitution for Guantanamo prisoners or Iraq rebuilding.
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Posted by: biwee on Dec 17, 2008 10:53 AM
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St memo", knew that the intelligence was being falsified to support a war on Iraq. Zionist NeoCons like Feith, Wolfowitz, Perle, Miller, Krauthammer and Kristol, and the AIPAC and AEI crowd all pushed for this war of choice to knock off an enemy of Israel. Now that it has backfired hugely, watch the vermin liars squirm. But, these UNAMERICAN worms will continue to push for an American war on Iran. Of course, these vermin did not serve a day in the US military, nor will their kids. But, they have no problems with YOUR kids dying in unnecessary wars.
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Posted by: common intelligence on Dec 17, 2008 11:16 AM
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This self servient "A" is doing just what the authors says.
If domestic criminals played his cover up wordsmithing games, They'd be locked up just the same.
This knee-jerk reactionary Bush master can not hide from his crimes against humanity.
The numbers of those that have suffered and growing as his policies continue their dismal effects are staggering. But The American people have been too preoccupied with loosing their materialistic ways they don't give this illqualified, over zealous, errogant, bastard any attention in so far as seeing that he is made accountable.
Bush said," ..I take full responsibility".
Well Jack, DO it!
He must pay for his crimes and utter and complete disruption of life for millions of people around the world.
He can't blame terrorist for the part for he played in escalating a world wide economic break down because he wasn't attending to Homeland Security right here in our country. From Katrina to covering up truth of 911 to the economic collapse. The Cat must be let out of the bag.
The lies and distractions by media continue to ignor the elephantS in the room. Perpetuating the denial within the US population it's self is a crime. It can not be denied calling this all a cover-up, by propaganda.
• Domestic Spying is still going on.
• Habeus Corpus is still not a right,
• Military Commisions act is still in motion.
• The bastard is still sending missles, drones, bombing attacks and the people here are still paying bounty hunters (Black Water), and the US continues $300/month serverance pay to each Iraqi not to fight against our colonialism.
• Americans have no health care, Retirement and Social security has been raided and obsconded with the $.
• The bastards that have been allowed to destroy the nations economy (if it really ever had one) are still in power.
• No one have ever faced charges for security failures becuase of 911
• Hey, Rummy, where's the over 2 trillion dollars that was lost
Man, the criminals are all free as jay birds.
What is it the congress and the vast American people not realize?
Lastly Push for Impeachment, & Accountability
Then the nation and the world can begin to heal.
Never let your children not realize that without accountability the government can never ever be trusted.
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Posted by: DaBear on Dec 17, 2008 11:41 AM
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Pathetic for him to get all boo-booey. If he comes in my town, I'm holding up my shoes, soles facing him. If he dares to stop for a drink, I'm fucking punching the bastard. The man couldn't be put in jail fast enough.
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Posted by: bobtr900 on Dec 17, 2008 12:01 PM
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This is what John Dean and Barry Goldwater were trying to say in their last book, written just before Goldwater died. They put forth the idea that the Republican party has degenerated into a bunch of people who always feel they are being victimized by everybody else. This is what the authoritarian personality is all about, people who are always playing the victim game instead of taking responsibility for ones own life they always want some authority figure to tell them what they must do to keep everything the same ( same = conservativism) and running 'as-is'. They live in some kind of mortal fear that doing anything even a bit different will make the 'sky fall' and lead to some kind of disaster, for them. They don't care about anyone else, it's just all about them, and their fears. We liberals know life is not guaranteed. They live in great fear of any instability. They are fearful people. For them it IS very real.
This is also why Repubs align so well with religion, it too always thinks it is being attacked by the "other", some "other". The "other" is the people who think differently, that is we liberals. So to maintain their power they are always attacking the "other", us liberals or anyone who deigns to think differently, like we liberals, or gays, or Islamofascists, or all of those evil Iraqis who have all those WMDs, or legal Hispanics, or African Americans, or, or, or, or ... For the authoritarians there is ALWAYS another "or" group, the other who threaten them, like Obama, who is another other.
Authoritaerians are very formulaic people. They think that by following certain formulas or proscriptions for living the sky will not fall, Chicken Little will survive and life will be oh so very safe and secure. Republicans have the victimology mindset down pat, and are always playing that game. Because of that mindset they truly are always living in fear.
That is also and used to be their business philosophy, that if they did not follow exact formulas thier businesses would fail. IOW, take away their African slaves and their businesses will fail. Well of course that is true because their business model was predicated on using slave labor for their economic survival. Take away their slaves and strike economic terror in their evil flinty hearts. Their business model is based on the degradation of others, the other, the different ones, those dark people.
Religion is the same way, the "other" is a threat, it is someone to be feared and controlled. Religion now fears women and gays, of whom neither fit into their male model of religion. So they threaten because they think everyone else is threatening them.
My best guess is that someone important will die in the next few years. So far it has been Afghanis and Iraqis and our troops. It was also some of us liberals, for example those members of that Unitarian Church in Tennessee and that Democratic party official in Arkansas. In the past the other who had to die has been Jews, women, Gays and Blacks. Should the Secret Service fail, Obama or Biden will die. Some religious leader somewhere may die, which will cause a massive disaster, probably including lots of deaths of very ordinary everyday people who will take the blame for the death of that religious leader. Though it will be done by a single person or a small group of people many people will take the blame and suffer for it.
A perfect example is the fact that a very few Jews (probably 6-8) called for the death of Jesus. Yet ever since then the entire Jewish diaspora has been paying the price for that single event, done by a very few. That is a perfect example of religious hatred, the hatred of one religious group for another.
Oh welll...
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Posted by: Garvagh on Dec 17, 2008 4:55 PM
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Posted by: global_commoner on Dec 17, 2008 6:21 PM
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We need a leader who is incapable of corruption...who looks out for ALL humanity, especially the poor and underprivileged. We need a teacher who can show us the way forward, into a brighter future of peace based on justice and freedom.
Some think such a GREAT ONE is already here, and about to step forward into the public.
Look for an unusually bright star to appear in the sky soon. This will signal the start of a whole new chapter for mankind.
www.WakeUpMankind.org
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Posted by: reallyfedup on Dec 17, 2008 7:46 PM
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We could all pay tribute to his new other world order fantasy by stopping by the White House, while he is still there and dropping off a present of our appreciation. We could drop a shoe off or two. Of course, I wouldn't recommend throwing it, but we could drop them off. I can see it now, 60 million or so pairs of shoes in his tribute.
Another idea would be to start a collection of shoes to give to him as a house warming present for his new house. Can you see it? Truck loads full of shoes packing the gated streets leading to his house.
Also, we could keep the legend going by dropping off a shoe or two at his new Presidential Library for at least a century or so to keep the fitting shoe donated from every person until he is known as "The Shoe President deserving of every insult". Just think of the legacy he would have. At least it would be full of sole.
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Posted by: PaulK on Dec 17, 2008 7:46 PM
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Otherwise W. Bush will go home. He will have an open bottle of bourbon, a bowl of pretzels and a football game on the TV. He won't do anything. Maybe his prayer circle will do something for him, but maybe not. We'll find out if Laura intended to leave him after the Presidency ended.
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Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Dec 17, 2008 9:01 PM
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bush exhibits typical alcoholic/cocaine addicted behavior...alcohol in particular changes the brain permanently so even if he isn't using he's still an alcoholic and still has alcoholic thinking.
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Posted by: Vicario on Dec 18, 2008 2:47 PM
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VICARIO : EX OPUS DEI SUPERNUMERARY
VICARIO : EX ELITIST EDUCATOR FOR OPUS DEI.
VICARIO : EX MEMBER AND EDUCATOR FOR 32 YEARS.
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Posted by: Madame Riverotter on Dec 19, 2008 5:07 AM
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In the eight years they have stood as the figure and power bases (respectively) the have utterly and miserably immersed America in a War She cannot win and has no right being in (very sorry Veterans, I respect and love you dearly but this is my opinion). While using the Country as a cover these two and their cronies have bled money out of not only the Armed Forces by placing personal contracts and companies in Iraq; but also in Lousiana and the Gulf States to profit by Hurricane Katrina when that great disaster hit.
These men and women should be brought up on Federal crimes of Warmongering, Racketeering, Profiteering, Torturing (before Found Guilty), and Gods know What Else.
Thank you for Reading This. Please Throw Small Rocks, I'm An Elderly Otter.
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Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson on Dec 20, 2008 7:13 AM
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Have you seen the Afro-American writer who claims Thomas Jefferson was abusive to her ancestor the slave Sally Hemmings on the History Channel? She claims they had an affair and there is a DNA gene traced to a male ancestor of Jefferson's brother. Jefferson's brother may have had the affair with Sally the slave. Who knows since Jefferson had no male heirs. Thomas Jefferson only had a daughter. Jefferson's brother ran the Jefferson estate when Thomas was in DC, etc. Thomas Jefferson is not here to defend himself.
Even if Jefferson knew his brother had the affair or children with a black slave he wouldn't say anything. It was against the law to marry a slave in Virginia. The family would have been shamed and even jailed. Thomas Jefferson or the brother may have loved her but couldn't marry. Why is the author so angry about her ancestor except she is trying to prove her ancestor was abused by "democratic loving" President Thomas Jefferson? It may have been consentual. She's determined to ruin him today.
All Progressive Democrats, reformers, and freedom loving Founding Fathers are being attacked and history re-written (but Adams whose history gets better all the time).
I read a book about Alexander Hamilton and the author kept trying to make out he was gay...over and over. It ruined the whole story and the author's credibility. It was apparent that the author disliked Hamilton. The author tried to prove himself over and over but had no real proof. Again Hamilton is not hear to defend himself. Hamilton was married and loved his wife and children. He almost died defending us from the British. No politician today would do that for their country.
Beside Adams Lincoln is a favorite on CSPAN and the History Channel. Lincoln was the first Republican (a "War President" like Bush). Lincoln would not have approved of RW Republicans today. He wanted evangelicals out of the government. He gave them no funding or power. He wanted to keep the union and stop the fighting. He was no globalist seeking to attack other nations for their resources and wealth. No torture was encouraged. He treated the enemy soldiers with respect since he knew it would heal the union in the end. Lincoln wanted to reward the Afro-Americans who fought in the war with voting rights and freedom.
Republicans today have lost their way by removing everyone's rights and freedoms. Instead they are about fear and tyranny.
The History Channel (Disney owned) has been trying to ruin Jefferson's legacy and prop up President Adams. They didn't agree on the people having rule (the few elite should decide) and are using propaganda to destroy democracy. Jefferson was very liberal and loved by all. He believed in rule by "We the people". He believed democracy is a natural state for man. Adams was an Anglophile. Adams tried to start a war against France after they helped us defeat the British. The French went into debt trying to help us. He hated their free ways of love, etc. (he forgot the Brits weren't saints).
Adams passed the Sedition Act which was similar to the Patriot Act so he could do war against France. Adams was not liked because of the Sedition Act, his stiff manner, and judgmental temperment. Not a good looking man either. I feel he was jealous of Jefferson. Adams read his Bible everyday and wrote his in his diary so history would not forget his accomplishments, etc. He was a very religious man who believed in killing the French. Jefferson defeated Adams in the election for President. Jefferson's first act was to repeal the hated Sedition Act.
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Posted by: SEDGFLD on Dec 20, 2008 9:32 AM
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I wonder what "God said" to him about this in their "conversations"
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this shows that we elect representatives either too occupied with personal ambitions or not smart enough to do the job.
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Posted by: weathered on Dec 17, 2008 1:38 AM
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Its not clever to play the victim, it breeds contempt in perpetuity.
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Posted by: Nightstallion on Dec 17, 2008 2:31 AM
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You are a goon Georgy Porgy, an unrepentant recalcitrant goon at that! You have raped your own people in your own Country didn't you think we would get pissed about that?
What the fcuk is wrong witchew man? You got no conscience at all? Where is all this arrogance coming from anyway, yo mama?
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Posted by: AlexLawyer on Dec 17, 2008 2:56 AM
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He and his small circle of elite, religious conservatives are the only people who count for anything in his Weltanschauung.
Obama's neocon leanings and center-right politics are disturbing, but he's still several orders of magnitude preferable to Bush and his ilk.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Dec 17, 2008 3:39 AM
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Bush: The name will forever more be synonymous with failure, incompetence and corruption.
Poor old Poppy Bush! For the very first time in my life, I am actually starting to feel sorry for the hideous old bastard. What a troubled night's sleep he must have. Can you imagine what he's going through? I suspect he wishes he talked Barb into having an abortion in the early winter of 1945.
He'll be remembered as the worst president in American history, no question about it. Name the lousiest chiefs executive you can think of:
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Ulysses S Grant
Chester A. Arthur
Benjamen Harrison
Warren G. Harding
Herbert Hoover
They all take a back seat to George Walker Bush.
Senator Caroline Kennedy?
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
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Posted by: LOVELYT. on Dec 17, 2008 4:01 AM
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Justice would be, handing him over to the Iraqis and put grenades and bombs, in every size 10 shoe. Then, not send their remains back to dirty up our soil, anymore. 9-11 was enough! lol
Let's start a petition for war crimes, treason,domestic and world terrorism and flat out lying, against both of them.
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Posted by: US Citizen 07 on Dec 17, 2008 4:20 AM
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I would have paid to see it hit him smack in the face.
I almost cheered for the man.
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Posted by: exvagabond on Dec 17, 2008 5:17 AM
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"One more surge and costly battle,
then Iraq won't be a Waterloo.
Sure, I f**ked it up before,
but gimme 20,000 more,
'cuz otherwise I don't know what to do!"
Where those 20,000 come from,
that's another Bush conundrum:
can't call up the Draft or use The Bomb.
He has never been in warfare,
must think soldiers come from Nowhere,
where he went instead of Viet Nam.
Frikken war is costing Billions,
Bushie even thinks Brazilians,
but his Budget doesn't factor this.
So when he sees some cash to snare-
retirement funds or Medicare-
we may not have a pot in which to piss.
How did this one get elected?
Failure must have been suspected,
but the folks were mad at Mister Bill.
He had played too much at Cupid,
now the Blind have led the Stupid
down the ditch wherever Bushie will.
Bruce Williams
Jan 15, 2007
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Posted by: jbpazz on Dec 17, 2008 5:24 AM
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Only Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich opposed Bush's every measure.
The self-styled Progressives who make laundry lists of his sins failed to prosecute him for eight years.
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Posted by: johnorford on Dec 17, 2008 6:09 AM
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Really? What legal and moral right does the USA have for its strategic objectives to have killed some many Afghanis - including women, children and old people - and to what class of person were these objectives important?
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Posted by: ellie on Dec 17, 2008 6:17 AM
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gee, now where did he buy that house??? where is the fake ranch??? where does bro run the no child left behind program from that has destroyed our educational system???
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Posted by: Crazy H on Dec 17, 2008 3:00 PM
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That's your funniest line yet, spammer. Talk about a FRAUD. You're fraudulently passing yourself off as a legitimate poster.
What, do you just copy and paste the same comment over and over?
Jerk
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Posted by: SlyGuy on Dec 17, 2008 7:42 AM
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Shrub wakes to find himself in what appears to be the afterlife. A sonorous voice welcomes him to his new world, the one where he will dwell forever.
What is this place, he asks, looks kinda like a place I once tried to destroy?
And who's that shaggy looking guy in my cell?
And what's a guy to do around here for fun?
Answers the voice: Iraq. Saddam. Contrition, atonement, and by day, you will personally work to near death to rebuild. By night, you will experience a nightmarish world sharing and living the suffering, mutilation, death, fear, and loss of each and every victim of the world of war you inflicted on this nation.
Now that's kharma. Anyone wonder why he refuses to acknowledge responsibility?
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Posted by: mythmorph on Dec 17, 2008 8:04 AM
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PLEASE POST THE LINK HERE.
All we are doing in posts like this, is bitching. We need to do much more -- like getting up a petition and collecting MILLIONS of American citizens' signatures toward this end.
Let's DO IT.
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Posted by: Artkansas on Dec 17, 2008 8:12 AM
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This is so much BU**SH**! The most powerful man on the planet is not a victim. He is a murderer and a war criminal. Let justice prevail.
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Posted by: rickiey on Dec 17, 2008 8:17 AM
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I do, and that is why it sickens me that she is going to be our new SOS. The rest of the Senate and Congress can claim to have been misled by the Bush Administration, but she openly claimed to have received her knowledge elsewhere.
When the people who instigated this mess are called into account, lets get all of them, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Hillary....
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Posted by: willymack on Dec 17, 2008 8:47 AM
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Posted by: JefffromCA on Dec 17, 2008 8:52 AM
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Please, let us elect leaders who are the smartest people in the room. No more retards. Mr. Obama is a good start.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Dec 17, 2008 9:01 AM
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"... there's no vigorous opposition to Bush's efforts to rewrite history. And that, in turn, is something we may have occasion to regret someday."
Uh, huh.
Just like Bush felt entitled to repeat – and build upon – Richard Nixon's criminality, thanks to President Ford's preemptive pardon of Tricky Dick, and, years later, the media's attempt to shore up Nixon's rotted persona. In Bush's case, I am especially referring to Nixon's most infamous quote: "If the President does it, then it's not illegal."
Apparently, we're going to let yet another criminal president "get away with it" AGAIN, which will virtually guarantee that a dictator will occupy the White House at some point in the future. (Sieg Heil to Der Furher Palin?!)
. . . . .
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
–George Santayana
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Posted by: Bayardtom on Dec 17, 2008 9:49 AM
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This whole fiasco of Bush trying to obsolve himself of his crimes is sickening. If anybody else saw his statment about it on TV with Laura sitting beside him, you must have seen her glassy-eyed expression when he was lying his ass off. How can anybody live with that kind of deceit?
It's a good thing that there are so many of out here who do know the truth and are writing it. But that will not be enough! We must make sure that those responsible for this hideous war and the deaths and the maiming of so many of our young people and those of Iraq pay for it with their freedom. Bush and his buddies who perpetrated this event must be held accountable.
The members of the Bush crime family deliberately lied so they could invade Iraq and steal their oil. Lest we forget, these people are oil people and they do know that business. It's just the business of honestly running the country they swore to protect that they didn't care to observe.
At least Colin Powell has come forward and said that the Bush administration was lying all the time about the situation in Iraq but it's a little late.
So, once again, write, email, call or visit your representatives and make sure that they know how you feel about impeachment. Forget traitor Pelosi and whatever deal she made with that devil but she will pay for it somehow. These people must be prosecuted and as soon as possible.
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Dec 17, 2008 10:40 AM
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Of course you just KNOW what's gonna happen once Bush is out of office after Jan 20. He'll have a whole line-up of speaking engagements at $100,000 a pop. And there will be all those contributors who will donate $millions$ to the "Bush Presidency Library and Archive". To which all those people will go who still believe in Bush--you know the idiotic 20% who still think he's doing a great job.
I think the Justice Department should sieze all those donations and speaking fees and use it for restitution for some of Bush's victims. Maybe restitution for Guantanamo prisoners or Iraq rebuilding.
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Posted by: biwee on Dec 17, 2008 10:53 AM
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St memo", knew that the intelligence was being falsified to support a war on Iraq. Zionist NeoCons like Feith, Wolfowitz, Perle, Miller, Krauthammer and Kristol, and the AIPAC and AEI crowd all pushed for this war of choice to knock off an enemy of Israel. Now that it has backfired hugely, watch the vermin liars squirm. But, these UNAMERICAN worms will continue to push for an American war on Iran. Of course, these vermin did not serve a day in the US military, nor will their kids. But, they have no problems with YOUR kids dying in unnecessary wars.
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Posted by: common intelligence on Dec 17, 2008 11:16 AM
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This self servient "A" is doing just what the authors says.
If domestic criminals played his cover up wordsmithing games, They'd be locked up just the same.
This knee-jerk reactionary Bush master can not hide from his crimes against humanity.
The numbers of those that have suffered and growing as his policies continue their dismal effects are staggering. But The American people have been too preoccupied with loosing their materialistic ways they don't give this illqualified, over zealous, errogant, bastard any attention in so far as seeing that he is made accountable.
Bush said," ..I take full responsibility".
Well Jack, DO it!
He must pay for his crimes and utter and complete disruption of life for millions of people around the world.
He can't blame terrorist for the part for he played in escalating a world wide economic break down because he wasn't attending to Homeland Security right here in our country. From Katrina to covering up truth of 911 to the economic collapse. The Cat must be let out of the bag.
The lies and distractions by media continue to ignor the elephantS in the room. Perpetuating the denial within the US population it's self is a crime. It can not be denied calling this all a cover-up, by propaganda.
• Domestic Spying is still going on.
• Habeus Corpus is still not a right,
• Military Commisions act is still in motion.
• The bastard is still sending missles, drones, bombing attacks and the people here are still paying bounty hunters (Black Water), and the US continues $300/month serverance pay to each Iraqi not to fight against our colonialism.
• Americans have no health care, Retirement and Social security has been raided and obsconded with the $.
• The bastards that have been allowed to destroy the nations economy (if it really ever had one) are still in power.
• No one have ever faced charges for security failures becuase of 911
• Hey, Rummy, where's the over 2 trillion dollars that was lost
Man, the criminals are all free as jay birds.
What is it the congress and the vast American people not realize?
Lastly Push for Impeachment, & Accountability
Then the nation and the world can begin to heal.
Never let your children not realize that without accountability the government can never ever be trusted.
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Posted by: DaBear on Dec 17, 2008 11:41 AM
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Pathetic for him to get all boo-booey. If he comes in my town, I'm holding up my shoes, soles facing him. If he dares to stop for a drink, I'm fucking punching the bastard. The man couldn't be put in jail fast enough.
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Posted by: bobtr900 on Dec 17, 2008 12:01 PM
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This is what John Dean and Barry Goldwater were trying to say in their last book, written just before Goldwater died. They put forth the idea that the Republican party has degenerated into a bunch of people who always feel they are being victimized by everybody else. This is what the authoritarian personality is all about, people who are always playing the victim game instead of taking responsibility for ones own life they always want some authority figure to tell them what they must do to keep everything the same ( same = conservativism) and running 'as-is'. They live in some kind of mortal fear that doing anything even a bit different will make the 'sky fall' and lead to some kind of disaster, for them. They don't care about anyone else, it's just all about them, and their fears. We liberals know life is not guaranteed. They live in great fear of any instability. They are fearful people. For them it IS very real.
This is also why Repubs align so well with religion, it too always thinks it is being attacked by the "other", some "other". The "other" is the people who think differently, that is we liberals. So to maintain their power they are always attacking the "other", us liberals or anyone who deigns to think differently, like we liberals, or gays, or Islamofascists, or all of those evil Iraqis who have all those WMDs, or legal Hispanics, or African Americans, or, or, or, or ... For the authoritarians there is ALWAYS another "or" group, the other who threaten them, like Obama, who is another other.
Authoritaerians are very formulaic people. They think that by following certain formulas or proscriptions for living the sky will not fall, Chicken Little will survive and life will be oh so very safe and secure. Republicans have the victimology mindset down pat, and are always playing that game. Because of that mindset they truly are always living in fear.
That is also and used to be their business philosophy, that if they did not follow exact formulas thier businesses would fail. IOW, take away their African slaves and their businesses will fail. Well of course that is true because their business model was predicated on using slave labor for their economic survival. Take away their slaves and strike economic terror in their evil flinty hearts. Their business model is based on the degradation of others, the other, the different ones, those dark people.
Religion is the same way, the "other" is a threat, it is someone to be feared and controlled. Religion now fears women and gays, of whom neither fit into their male model of religion. So they threaten because they think everyone else is threatening them.
My best guess is that someone important will die in the next few years. So far it has been Afghanis and Iraqis and our troops. It was also some of us liberals, for example those members of that Unitarian Church in Tennessee and that Democratic party official in Arkansas. In the past the other who had to die has been Jews, women, Gays and Blacks. Should the Secret Service fail, Obama or Biden will die. Some religious leader somewhere may die, which will cause a massive disaster, probably including lots of deaths of very ordinary everyday people who will take the blame for the death of that religious leader. Though it will be done by a single person or a small group of people many people will take the blame and suffer for it.
A perfect example is the fact that a very few Jews (probably 6-8) called for the death of Jesus. Yet ever since then the entire Jewish diaspora has been paying the price for that single event, done by a very few. That is a perfect example of religious hatred, the hatred of one religious group for another.
Oh welll...
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Posted by: myersqi on Dec 17, 2008 2:04 PM
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Posted by: global_commoner on Dec 17, 2008 6:21 PM
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We need a leader who is incapable of corruption...who looks out for ALL humanity, especially the poor and underprivileged. We need a teacher who can show us the way forward, into a brighter future of peace based on justice and freedom.
Some think such a GREAT ONE is already here, and about to step forward into the public.
Look for an unusually bright star to appear in the sky soon. This will signal the start of a whole new chapter for mankind.
www.WakeUpMankind.org
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Posted by: reallyfedup on Dec 17, 2008 7:46 PM
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We could all pay tribute to his new other world order fantasy by stopping by the White House, while he is still there and dropping off a present of our appreciation. We could drop a shoe off or two. Of course, I wouldn't recommend throwing it, but we could drop them off. I can see it now, 60 million or so pairs of shoes in his tribute.
Another idea would be to start a collection of shoes to give to him as a house warming present for his new house. Can you see it? Truck loads full of shoes packing the gated streets leading to his house.
Also, we could keep the legend going by dropping off a shoe or two at his new Presidential Library for at least a century or so to keep the fitting shoe donated from every person until he is known as "The Shoe President deserving of every insult". Just think of the legacy he would have. At least it would be full of sole.
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Posted by: PaulK on Dec 17, 2008 7:46 PM
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Otherwise W. Bush will go home. He will have an open bottle of bourbon, a bowl of pretzels and a football game on the TV. He won't do anything. Maybe his prayer circle will do something for him, but maybe not. We'll find out if Laura intended to leave him after the Presidency ended.
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Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Dec 17, 2008 9:01 PM
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bush exhibits typical alcoholic/cocaine addicted behavior...alcohol in particular changes the brain permanently so even if he isn't using he's still an alcoholic and still has alcoholic thinking.
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Posted by: Vicario on Dec 18, 2008 2:47 PM
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VICARIO : EX OPUS DEI SUPERNUMERARY
VICARIO : EX ELITIST EDUCATOR FOR OPUS DEI.
VICARIO : EX MEMBER AND EDUCATOR FOR 32 YEARS.
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Posted by: Madame Riverotter on Dec 19, 2008 5:07 AM
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In the eight years they have stood as the figure and power bases (respectively) the have utterly and miserably immersed America in a War She cannot win and has no right being in (very sorry Veterans, I respect and love you dearly but this is my opinion). While using the Country as a cover these two and their cronies have bled money out of not only the Armed Forces by placing personal contracts and companies in Iraq; but also in Lousiana and the Gulf States to profit by Hurricane Katrina when that great disaster hit.
These men and women should be brought up on Federal crimes of Warmongering, Racketeering, Profiteering, Torturing (before Found Guilty), and Gods know What Else.
Thank you for Reading This. Please Throw Small Rocks, I'm An Elderly Otter.
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Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson on Dec 20, 2008 7:13 AM
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Have you seen the Afro-American writer who claims Thomas Jefferson was abusive to her ancestor the slave Sally Hemmings on the History Channel? She claims they had an affair and there is a DNA gene traced to a male ancestor of Jefferson's brother. Jefferson's brother may have had the affair with Sally the slave. Who knows since Jefferson had no male heirs. Thomas Jefferson only had a daughter. Jefferson's brother ran the Jefferson estate when Thomas was in DC, etc. Thomas Jefferson is not here to defend himself.
Even if Jefferson knew his brother had the affair or children with a black slave he wouldn't say anything. It was against the law to marry a slave in Virginia. The family would have been shamed and even jailed. Thomas Jefferson or the brother may have loved her but couldn't marry. Why is the author so angry about her ancestor except she is trying to prove her ancestor was abused by "democratic loving" President Thomas Jefferson? It may have been consentual. She's determined to ruin him today.
All Progressive Democrats, reformers, and freedom loving Founding Fathers are being attacked and history re-written (but Adams whose history gets better all the time).
I read a book about Alexander Hamilton and the author kept trying to make out he was gay...over and over. It ruined the whole story and the author's credibility. It was apparent that the author disliked Hamilton. The author tried to prove himself over and over but had no real proof. Again Hamilton is not hear to defend himself. Hamilton was married and loved his wife and children. He almost died defending us from the British. No politician today would do that for their country.
Beside Adams Lincoln is a favorite on CSPAN and the History Channel. Lincoln was the first Republican (a "War President" like Bush). Lincoln would not have approved of RW Republicans today. He wanted evangelicals out of the government. He gave them no funding or power. He wanted to keep the union and stop the fighting. He was no globalist seeking to attack other nations for their resources and wealth. No torture was encouraged. He treated the enemy soldiers with respect since he knew it would heal the union in the end. Lincoln wanted to reward the Afro-Americans who fought in the war with voting rights and freedom.
Republicans today have lost their way by removing everyone's rights and freedoms. Instead they are about fear and tyranny.
The History Channel (Disney owned) has been trying to ruin Jefferson's legacy and prop up President Adams. They didn't agree on the people having rule (the few elite should decide) and are using propaganda to destroy democracy. Jefferson was very liberal and loved by all. He believed in rule by "We the people". He believed democracy is a natural state for man. Adams was an Anglophile. Adams tried to start a war against France after they helped us defeat the British. The French went into debt trying to help us. He hated their free ways of love, etc. (he forgot the Brits weren't saints).
Adams passed the Sedition Act which was similar to the Patriot Act so he could do war against France. Adams was not liked because of the Sedition Act, his stiff manner, and judgmental temperment. Not a good looking man either. I feel he was jealous of Jefferson. Adams read his Bible everyday and wrote his in his diary so history would not forget his accomplishments, etc. He was a very religious man who believed in killing the French. Jefferson defeated Adams in the election for President. Jefferson's first act was to repeal the hated Sedition Act.
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Posted by: SEDGFLD on Dec 20, 2008 9:32 AM
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I wonder what "God said" to him about this in their "conversations"
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