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L.A. Judge OKs Cops' not Asking Crime Victims, Witnesses About Immigration Status

By Kenneth Kim, New America Media. Posted June 29, 2008.


Pragmatism prevails amid anti-immigrant fervor.
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A Los Angeles judge yesterday dismissed a lawsuit seeking to overturn a 30-year-old policy that prohibits Los Angeles Police Department officers from asking people about their immigration status.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Rolf M. Treu threw out the lawsuit filed by an L.A. resident by granting a motion from the city of Los Angeles and the American Civil Liberty Union. He ruled that the Los Angeles Police Department's current policy is constitutional and doesn't hinder the local police's ability to exchange information with federal immigration officials.

"Every police chief since Chief (Daryl) Gates has supported Special Order 40," Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said in response to the judge's ruling. "They do because it makes sense. We want people to come forward, to be able when they're witnesses or victims of crimes to cooperate with the police department."

Los Angeles resident Harold Sturgeon had filed suit against police Chief William J. Bratton and members of the Police Commission in 2006 in an effort to overturn Special Order 40.

In court papers, Sturgeon's lawyers called Special Order 40 "essentially a 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' policy regarding illegal aliens," asking the court to order a permanent injunction against the police department to prevent taxpayer's money from being used to enforce the policy.

They argued that the current LAPD policy restricts officers from sharing information with federal immigration officials, a claim the city attorney's office denies.

Judge Treu acknowledged the heated debate over illegal immigration issues, but ruled against the plaintiff's assertion that labeled the policy as a waste of tax payers' money.

ACLU attorney Hector O. Villagra praised the judge's ruling, saying that it would encourage people to continue to come forward and report crimes regardless of their immigration status.

"For 30 years the police department has struck a proper balance between public safety and federal immigration law,'" Villagra said.

Treu had granted the ACLU permission to intervene as a defendant in the case, allowing the organization to work together with the city attorney's office to defend the legality of Special Order 40.

Sturgeon's lawyer, Paul J. Orfanedes of Judicial Watch Inc., expressed disappointment with the verdict and said an appeal would likely follow, depending on Sturgeon's wishes.

"Special Order puts a gag on police officers on duty to ask information and to share information," Orfanedes said.

Special Order 40, voluntarily instituted in 1979, was a practical decision by then-Chief Daryl F. Gates, one of the toughest-on-crime chiefs in the department's history.

Facing a surge of violent crimes in Los Angeles' immigrant communities that often went unreported, the department began to implement the policy to assist police investigations by encouraging undocumented immigrants who were leading productive lives to report the crimes to the police and approach them as witnesses.

To ensure that undocumented immigrants would not have to fear deportation when they came forward as witnesses, the LAPD decided that it no longer would investigate people solely to establish their immigration status and would not arrest anyone simply for being in the country illegally. But this didn't stop officers from arresting a violent suspect or calling in federal agents to investigate a person they believed had illegally reentered the United States after deportation.


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California! A sanctuary City'
Posted by: Brittanicus on Jun 29, 2008 5:09 PM   
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So LA county taxpayers like my family are sucked almost dry of their income, as they are forced to support the 1.5 million illegal aliens squatting there. So California is on the verge of bankruptcy, because the capitol assembly pander to the illegal foreign nationals.

Governor Arnold is already thinking of ways to gut services. That he might be able to do, but he will still be dealing with Overpopulation, congestion, urban sprawl, pollution, environmental damage, crime, diminishing resources, Diseases, lack of affordable housing, depressed wages, underground economic, fraudulent documents, identity theft, tax evasion, soaring crime rate, increased tax burdens, overcrowded schools, uneducated children, overcrowded prisons, inadequate health care, the balkanization of our communities and a large and growing population with loyalty to other Nations.

Just read this disturbing revelation of costs, that our government skims from our paycheck to pay an illegal immigrant. (www.eagleforum.org/sources)

So the LA county Sanctuary law called, Special order 40 will keep killing people. The liberal mindset of the 9th district court and the a selection of judges, always are subservient to anti-sovereignty entities, like the ACLU, Southern Poverty league.

The pariah business that protect this police ordinance, are the instigators of the criminal filth that wanders the streets and highways. The ever increasing budget deficits that have condemned taxpaying Californians, so the corporate companies can live the good life.

Your payroll check, your security and even your job is in dire peril. We must swamp the Democrats with this demand now or suffer consequence of proportions never imagined by us or our children. Toll-free at (202-224-3121 ).

Ice has a ICE Tipline: 1-866-DHS-2ICE for intelligence to locate illegal aliens, or predatory businesses that employ them.

We must erase this blemish on the whole of American society forever, by making the Democrats sponsor the pending SAVE ACT (4088) Either president will bring us a paramount AMNESTY, that will condemn taxpayers to even more free rides for illegal foreign nationals. Read unsuppressed facts at NUMBERSUSA.

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» you can complain Posted by: Mexitli
» RE: you can complain Posted by: L.A.Lynn
» i'm not wiped out Posted by: Mexitli
» RE: i'm not wiped out Posted by: L.A.Lynn
Your Point Is???
Posted by: Turiye on Jun 29, 2008 5:15 PM   
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N/F/E

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Britannius, stop litering the internet with your spam
Posted by: paintchips on Jun 30, 2008 2:18 PM   
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I remember you from about a year ago on the USAtoday site and being disgusted at your attack on Obama and how you thought he was a muslim.

There's so much more to life than hatred.

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These comments make me question humanity
Posted by: paintchips on Jun 30, 2008 2:24 PM   
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Other than tcheek's comment, I'm disgusted. Immigrants (both legal and illegal) have a small positive affect on our economy. The vast majority of economists agree on this.
http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/pr-imopi.html

Immigrants (especially undocumented immigrants) are far LESS likely to commit crimes than citizen.
http://www.ailf.org/ipc/special_report/sr_022107.pdf

Let's just work off the facts and try to find solutions and stop bickering and littering the internet with hate.

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» euros were the cannibals Posted by: Mexitli
» RE: euros were the cannibals Posted by: L.A.Lynn
» RE: euros were the cannibals Posted by: Mexitli
Whoa!
Posted by: L.A.Lynn on Jul 1, 2008 10:37 AM   
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Trust me, if there is an atrocity that can be imagined some group of human beings have tried it, white, brown, black etc...

Is that what this discussion should be about?

I think it is more about the last sentence of JoshuaR's post. Illegal immigration is bad for this country. (or good depending on your view). And this country is made up of many, many ethnicities. So the "our" that Joshua references is shared with people from all races and cultures.

For me, it is merely a question of overpopulating an area that is not prepared to accommodate the influx, and further, losing true diversity.

This article is about Special Order 40. It's a slippery subject, because you can put any spin on it you choose. It helps fight crime, or it is accelerates crime.

Those that feel it fights crime believe that victims and witnesses to crimes, who may fear being deported are assured that won't be the case if they step forward and help the police. (Of course, they now only have to worry about being harassed or murdered by the criminal element they are ratting out.)

The side that says it accelerates crime insists that it deters the police from investigating the legal status of known or suspected criminals. The case presented is Jamiel Shaw, who would be alive today had his alleged murderer's legal status been investigated, and deportation taken place before he was able to walk free (after an assault arrest), and slaughter the high-schooler, Jamiel Shaw.

Anyway, I think that's what the discussion should be. I doubt it would be, because it's so much more fun to argue about who's ancestors were the best.

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