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How Clean Is "Clean Coal"? (Video)

By Davin Hutchins, American News Project. Posted May 30, 2008.


Presidential candidates are pushing "clean coal" but many suspect it is causing a rare form of blood cancer.
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In a single year, less than one in 100,000 Americans contract a rare form of blood cancer. In Pennsylvania coal country, the rate is nearly five times higher. Many suspect "clean" coal is the cause. As the 2008 presidential candidates promote the potential of clean coal as an alternative fuel source, and as Congress prepares to debate energy legislation, ANP takes a look at the controversial practice of coal-ash dumping. This investigation brought to you in partnership with The Washington Independent. Check out the video to your right.


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Clean coal
Posted by: catmandoo on May 31, 2008 6:44 AM   
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is an oxymoron.

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Heavy metal poisons in coal: A possible cause for cancer
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on May 31, 2008 8:00 AM   
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Let's start with a list of the heavy and light elements in coal.
They are: URANIUM, ARSENIC, LEAD, MERCURY,
Antimony, Cobalt, Nickel, Copper, Selenium, Barium, Fluorine,
Silver, Beryllium, Iron, Sulfur, Boron, Titanium, Cadmium,
Magnesium, Thorium, Calcium, Manganese, Vanadium, Chlorine,
Aluminum, Chromium, Molybdenum and Zinc. There is so much
of these elements in coal that cinders and coal smoke are actually
valuable ores. We should be able to get all the uranium and
thorium we need to fuel nuclear power plants for centuries by
using cinders and smoke as ore. Remember that, to get a given
amount of energy, you need on the order of 100 MILLION
TIMES as much coal as uranium. That means the coal mine has
to be 100 million times larger than the uranium mine, not counting
the recycling of nuclear fuel. We can keep our mountains and
forests and our health by switching from coal to nuclear power.

Chinese industrial grade coal is sometimes stolen by
peasants for cooking. The result is that the whole family
dies of arsenic poisoning because Chinese industrial grade
coal contains large amounts of arsenic.

I have zero financial interest in nuclear power, and I never have
had a financial interest in nuclear power. My sole motivation in
writing this is to avoid death by H2S gas.

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» RE: How About Fusion Posted by: edgar_michel
» RE: Correct Link to Fusion Future Posted by: edgar_michel
Killer coal
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on May 31, 2008 8:07 AM   
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COAL companies have DUPED most Americans into thinking
that Nuclear power is dangerous. Nuclear is the safest.
Nuclear has killed ZERO Americans.
Meanwhile, COAL kills 24000 Americans every year.
Coal kills more like a Million Chinese every year.

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How you get enough uranium from coal for a nuclear power plant
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on May 31, 2008 8:15 AM   
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Reference:
OUR NUCLEAR FUTURE:
THE PATH OF SELECTIVE IGNORANCE
by Alex Gabbard
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Oak Ridge, TN
Selections from the 19th Annual Conference
SOUTHERN FUTURE SOCIETY
March 14,15,16, 1996
Nashville, Tennessee

Published by the
SOUTHERN FUTURE SOCIETY
1996
Edited by Jack D. Arters, Ed.D.
Conference Director
The truth is, all natural rocks contain most natural elements. Coal is a rock.
The average concentration of uranium in coal is 1 or 2 parts per million. Illinois
coal contains up to 103 parts per million uranium. A 1000 million watt coal
fired power plant burns 4 million tons of coal each year. If you multiply 4
million tons by 1 part per million, you get 4 tons of uranium. Most of that is
U238. About .7% is U235. 4 tons = 8000 pounds. 8000 pounds times .7% =
56 pounds of U235. An average 1000 million watt coal fired power plant puts
out 56 to 112 pounds of U235 every year. There are only 2 places the uranium
can go: Up the stack or into the cinders.
Since a reactor full fuel load is around 11 tons of 2% U235 and 98% U238, and
one load lasts about 10 years, and what one coal fired power plant puts into the
air and cinders fully fuels a nuclear power plant.
Compare 4 Million tons per year with 1.1 tons per year. 1.1 divided by 4 Million
= 2.75 E -7 = .000000275 =.0000275%. Remember that only 2% of that is
U235. The nuclear power plant needs ~44 pounds of U235 per year. The coal
fired power plant burns coal by the trainload. The nuclear power plant consumes
U235 in such small quantities yearly that you could carry that much weight in a
briefcase. The full fuel load and the years between fueling varies from reactor to
reactor, but one truck can carry the weight of a full nuclear fuel load.
See also: http://www.ornl.gov/ORNLReview/rev26-34/text/coalmain.html

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» RE: Fusion for the second time Posted by: edgar_michel
CO2 Scam
Posted by: uncleeddie on May 31, 2008 9:05 AM   
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As long as people fall for the BULL about CO2 being a deadly gas heating up the earth the real poisons can get a free pass. While all us morons are paying for a carbon tax corporations will be spitting out every carcinogenic and earth poisoning chemical imaginable on a group of fools chasing the CO2 wild goose.

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» RE: CO2 Scam Posted by: toppun
» be the solution, not a putz Posted by: nahikurain@mac.com
Campaign Tworrelspeak!!!!!
Posted by: jeffrey7 on May 31, 2008 10:31 AM   
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Clean coal is like a scent free turd...it ain't gonna happen. We are being stumpped by the candidates because there's a big batch of delegates,not voters, that live in coal states.
The candidates see coal miners as 'dumb rednecks that could'nt find a more inspired destiny than digging a hole.' Sorry but that's true. The gov't handing out grants to help create clean coal is more gov't waste. The amount of funding given away in such a foolhearty venture would pay for healthcare,good healthcare,better than medicaid.
As we learned with the opium poppy,you can't make a safer product from using the same base
materials. Heroin,and methadone we're better or safer than opium the same will be true of clean coal. Remember clean nuclear energy? Three Mile Island? We need to di-vest ourselves from coal,stop mining,stop burning it and making propane from it. The trade off will be healthy air and we won't create any more coaltar blobs that fill the bay in Ashland Wisconsin. We might even be able eat the Great Lakes fish again.
Draft Jeffrey7 for Prez '08

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More double talk
Posted by: Last Chance on May 31, 2008 12:47 PM   
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The only reason so many coal fired power plants are built is because more and more people need more and more electricity. The "clean coal" maneuver is intended to accomodate that growing population to make rich corporations even richer and save the most toxic industry existing today.

The only real solution is to peacefully reduce the human populaion and convert to alternative enrgy technology, which would be plenty for a smaller number of people. But if the human population keeps growing to 7, 8, 9, 10 billion people all needing electricity and producing tons of garbage, there will be a die-off as society strangles in its own poisonous waste. How To Save The Earth

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» RE: More double talk Posted by: richholland
mining contaminates water..
Posted by: luzmejor on May 31, 2008 1:09 PM   
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...and soil. These and related illness in miners and others in communities should be factored into the cost of such dirty fuels.

The disposal of contaminants from nuclear energy operations needs to be factored into the cost of that kind of energy supplies.

It is obvious that clean-up is the greatest cost for most fuels. Americans want to know!

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gasoline from coal
Posted by: richholland on Jun 1, 2008 4:00 AM   
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The airplane gasoline of the infamous NAZIs was made for 95% from coal.
As labor force they abused the Jews, gypsies, homosexuals and people not supporting the nazi ideology.
Who will be working in this industry in USA?
Compared to many countries their are many people in jail..... So...

The Dutch have experience with windmills for 400 years.
The electricity plant of Amsterdam i.e.
is fueled by ; garbage,
usted oil and fat from fast food restaurants.
shit from men and beast.
So you see the Dutch are mean and stinking, but in spite of this we are convinced we cannot replace OIL for 100%.
But the European union is convinced that we can REDUCE with 30% and as I read in Alternet.org in the USA coming years people will need 30% MORE oil

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Toxic Coal Ash
Posted by: Dan Peper on Jun 1, 2008 7:57 AM   
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This can appear very abstract to people but when it threatens you personally it all changes. Here in the Driftless area of SW Wisconsin our power supplier Dairyland Power Co-Op is going to update their plant to meet emmision standards. What was going into the air will now be concentrated into a landfill. All the nasties, mercury, cadmium,etc, buried for eternity... In an area of fractured bedrock known as Karst. A recipe for ground water contamination. They plan to steal up to 600 acres of productive farmland and woods (200 is certified organic) for the landfill. What a choice...breath it in and diseminate it over a wide area or concentrate it in big hole. Other ways of dealing with the mess are available but of course cost more. Clean coal is a joke.

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A few points
Posted by: willymack on Jun 1, 2008 11:11 AM   
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1. There is NO safe way to burn coal
2. There is No safe way to burn oil
3. There is NO safe way to burn gas, natural or otherwise
4. There is NO safe way to burn ANY COMBUSTIBLE
Anyone who tells you otherwise is either an ignoramus or a LIAR. We have simply got to get beyond the idea of burning stuff for propulsion and energy. If this means nationalizing the "energy" companies and impounding their vast wealth to finance a REAL program of scientific research, so be it. We should be as concerned with the welfare of BIg oil, Big Coal, and Big Gas as they are for OUR welfare.

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Nuclear power releases LESS radiation...
Posted by: Livemike on Jun 4, 2008 12:18 AM   
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than coal. I heard that and wondered why. Turns out it's the uranium. Personally I wouldn't worry about the cancers. It's the mercury that's getting in the fish that will kill you.

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