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Health & Wellness

Leading Dems Miss the Boat on Health Care

By John P. Geyman, Tikkun. Posted January 22, 2008.


No amount of tax credits, health savings accounts or market solutions will fix this problem.
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As we face the 2008 presidential campaigns, the stakes have never been higher for health care reform. Health care is pricing itself beyond the reach of lower-income and middle-class Americans with no cost containment yet on the horizon. Seniors with Medicare are paying much more out-of-pocket for their medical care now than when Medicare was enacted in 1965.

We already have a perfect storm as the U.S. health care "system" falls apart, and many public polls put access to affordable health care at the top of our domestic agenda.

Although we spend far more than any other country in the world on health care, we have little to show for it except high prices, decreasing access, variable quality, underuse of essential care by vulnerable populations, and a significant amount of unnecessary and inappropriate care for those who can pay for it. Our enormous private health insurance industry of 1,300 insurers competes to cover healthier and lower-risk enrollees with more limited policies each year, while denying coverage of sicker individuals or raising premiums to unaffordable levels. That shifts the burden of the more costly care of sicker people to the public sector, defeating the whole principle of insurance: to spread risk broadly. Meanwhile, as the private insurance industry no longer finds growth in the employer-sponsored and individual markets, it has been shifting its sights to privatized public programs, including Medicare and Medicaid. Here it has found generous subsidies and little oversight from friendly conservatives in government.

Now would be the ideal time for leading Democrats to advance a progressive agenda for health care, such as Teddy Roosevelt did as a Progressive, with his call for national health insurance in 1912. The Republicans have been weakened by scandals, cronyism and incompetence, and have no new or credible ideas for health care reform. They still offer up only warmed-over ideas such as tax credits, health savings accounts, and how the competitive market can fix our problems, while limiting government's responsibility for care of the poor -- blatant social Darwinism. As William Greider recently observed in the Nation, "Democrats have a splendid opening to be substantive and political and righteous for working folks,all at once."

But so far, with only one exception, the Democratic presidential candidates have been disappointing, if not derelict, in reforming the system. In their misguided efforts to avoid too much controversy and to build a "centrist consensus," they are completely missing the target even before starting. Although Democrats in Congress united behind reauthorization of an expanded State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), that effort has diverted them from the real challenge -- how to reform the system to make accessible and comprehensive health care affordable for all Americans. That would require taking on powerful stakeholders, especially the insurance and drug industries, in the medical-industrial complex, now one-sixth of our economy. All but one of the Democratic presidential contenders shy away from that battle, usually with the limp excuse that real reform is not politically feasible.

What Are the Leading Democrats Proposing?

In their rush to build consensus for universal coverage, all three leading Democratic presidential candidates avoid taking on the real culprit -- a failing private health insurance industry. There is abundant evidence of the industry's failures, such as premiums increasing by three and four times the rates of cost-of- living and median family income. Projections show that, at this rate, premiums alone will consume all of household incomes by 2025. Administrative overhead will become five to nine times higher than Original Medicare."Denial management" is a vigorous growth area within the industry, while proliferation of near worthless limited benefit policies under the guise of insurance (e.g. deductibles up to $5,000 or annual caps as low as $1,000), and successful avoidance of regulation by state and federal regulators for many years is standard. Even as employer-sponsored insurance declines, the insurance bureaucracy keeps expanding as it seeks to exclude higher risk enrollees and keep its "medical loss ratio" attractive to investors (the industry's often-stated goal is to keep at least 20 percent of premium revenue for overhead and profits).

Despite these mounting problems, the proposals for"reform"of each of the leading Democratic candidates would build upon the private insurance industry. Both Senators Hillary Clinton and John Edwards call for an individual mandate whereby everyone is required to buy health insurance. Senator Barack Obama stops short of universal coverage, except for children.


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John P. Geyman, MD is professor emeritus of family medicine at the University of Washington. He is past president of Physicians for a National Health Program and author of The Corporate Transformation of Health Care: Can the Public Interest Still Be Served?

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thank you john,
Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Jan 22, 2008 1:04 AM   
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for an accurate and timely piece on healthcare...
hr 676 is one of many reasons why, despite his alleged "un-electablity" i, along with many other alterneters, will be voting for Kucinich.

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I don't want mandatory healthcare insurance...
Posted by: Cooltruth on Jan 22, 2008 5:05 AM   
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Buying 'healthcare insurance' isn't going to make me or anybody else any healthier so don't want to be required by the government to have to buy any mandatory healthcare insurance from the greedy insurance companies. Let's ALL vote for anybody except Clinton, Edwards or Romney! Maybe we can dodge this 'healthcare insurance' bullet being made mandatory. Take care of your health & leave me free to take care of mine. I don't see the health of sick people improving from my economic health getting sicker through having to pay for stupid healthcare insurance.

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» Except that... Posted by: mjabele
» RE: xcept that... Posted by: Joe
» "Yep" what? Posted by: mjabele
» /signed: No mandatory health care Posted by: ABetterFuture
» Come on, ABetterFuture... Posted by: mjabele
» P'raps certain European countries... Posted by: ABetterFuture
» No doubt you realize..... Posted by: mjabele
Edwards our last best hope, here's why
Posted by: bthespoon on Jan 22, 2008 5:13 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Obama represents the "Audacity of False Hope" on health care. As small business owners whose very lives depend upon real (not fake) health care reform, we have done our research on this topic. Please trust us on this. Lives (ours and possibly yours) are at stake. Specifically, Obama's plan says health insurers would have to "JUSTIFY" charging large premium differences...as if financial discrimination against people when they are sick and at their most vulnerable is justifiable at all. That's all the insurers need to keep us at their mercy, and THEY HAVE NONE. With friends
like this who needs enemies? Other legislation he supports says we will have access to the same health care plan as he and other members of Congress have "except for the way (we) are rated" (sigh). He leaves that part out, but I'm
pretty sure he knows it's in there, and neglects to mention that federal employee plans cost more than the $12,100/year national average in a country where the median household income is $48,200. He gutted real health care
reform legislation offered here in Illinois (by changing one word: "shall" to "may"). Had he supported the "Health Care Justice" bill as written, it would have passed.

Hillary's plan says insurance companies will be prohibited from charging "large" premium differences based on "modified" community rating (whatever that means). Again, that is the only loophole health insurance companies
need. SHAME on both Obama and Clinton for caring more about health insurers than people, when health insurers are killing at least 101,000 innocent Americans every year (new study in Health Affairs) and wasting $600 Billions (with a "B") of our health care dollars. Physicians for a National Health
Program (www.pnhp.org ) concludes we could cover everyone far more reliably and comprehensively, and still save $350 Billion (with a "B") each year by cutting out one very unnecessary, greedy and heartless middleman.
California Nurses Association (the largest nurses' group) is right on real with this topic too (unlike Clinton, Obama and every Republican running). Massachusetts is a great example of "Universal Care Done WRONG" (an unaffordable, unsustainable, mandate feeding the beast that is the main part of the problem will not solve the problem).

HERE IS THE IMPORTANT PART: Edwards is the only one of the top three (and all Republicans running) who even wants to create a level playing field with REAL (not fake) community rating and guaranteed issue. The difference is
Edwards "gets" what needs to be done while Obama and Clinton don't. Both (and all the Republicans running) want us to believe that the problem is the solution when it isn't. American lives and the future of our economy depend upon voters not being too busy to notice or care about the devil in their details. Edwards is the only viable candidate who would even try to point us in the right direction on health care, not to mention a few other issues
as well (Invasion and Occupation of Iraq).

Bless Kucinich for what he is trying to do, but he is not electable (and I never thought he was crazy or ill informed until he gave his support to Obama, then I wondered).

Please help me spread the word about Obama, Clinton, and their selling outof "We the People" to the "Welfare of the Few" powerful moneyed interests on health care.

I think Republicans think they can beat Hillary or Obama, and that Edwards bothers and worries them more because he would do the most to counter the damage they have done. Plus, polls show him the most likely to defeat any
Republican running. Pay attention to what the media is doing and where the money is going. We really should not allow who gets the best media coverage or most campaign dollars to determine who our candidates are.

Please do not allow yourselves to be fooled if you care about health care.

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HR 676 has 88 sponsors
Posted by: bthespoon on Jan 22, 2008 6:03 AM   
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including Conyers. Supposedly 100 supporters is the magic number after which other representatives will more readily join. Please call your member of Congress to say you support this bill (or at least that you support universal health care done right, not wrong). Here are three tested toll free numbers you can use to make your phone calls, 800 828-0498, 800 614-2803 and 866 340-9281. Sometimes their answering machines fill up, so AFTER you make your call to your House member, please also call them at their local district office, which is readily available at www.house.gov Then we need a companion bill in the Senate. Ted Kennedy, Pete Stark, Sherrod Brown would be good senators to try.

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Single payor won't work
Posted by: robchapman on Jan 22, 2008 6:03 AM   
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It is unrealistic to think that the Single Payor system will embrace all of the virtues of the current system without any of its flaws.

Fifteen percent of Americans are not covered by health insurance. Bringing them into coverage without expanding the number of providers and facilities to treat them will swamp the system.

It is unrealistic and, frankly, immoral to deprive the 85% of Americans who pay their premiums, take care of their health and who value choice and flexibility of the current system.

The issues are more wide ranging than insurance coverage: the issue is whether the government will address the needs of the people or not.

Canada has comprehensive of social, economic and health services that make its system work.

America is in retreat from providing such services.

It is unrealistic to think that a government controlled health care system would not limit its financial exposure by eliminating medical services.

The Single Payor approach is to place our health care coverage in the hands of politicians who see no problem with spending $ $2 billion per plane on bombers that have no military utility.

The more pressing problem in America is underinvestment in health care providers and facilities. A strong secondary problem is the retreat from social services.

Obama, Edwards and Clinton have advanced a reform of the current system becaue the current system works for 5 out of 6 of us. The comprehensive plans they propose will address the issue of insurance coverage for the uninsured.

Any one of the three of them will advocate for and implement measures to redirect American public investment from the war sector to the health sector.

The left should be devising strategies on mobilizing to public opinion to increase investment in human services, not lobbying for a flawed program.

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» RE: Single payor won't work Posted by: mjabele
» You got it... Posted by: CatDad
» I would add... Posted by: mjabele
HR 676 MUST BE MODIFIED TO INCLUDE PREVENTION
Posted by: drricklippin on Jan 22, 2008 6:04 AM   
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While I agree with Dr.John Geymen that we must ultimately get to single payor(ala John Edwards'like plan)there is a bigger story here that Dr. Geyman is missing.

WE,OR ANY OTHER NATION FOR THAT MATTER, CANNOT AFFORD A HIGH TECH-HIGH COST TREATMENT BASED DISEASE CARE SYSTEM. SUCH A SYSTEM IS ECONOMICALLY UNSUSTAINABLE.

Therefore I am in support of HR 676 with much more emphasis on individual(health behaviors) and institutional(public health) prevention.

In 1995 I proposed an eight point health care plan based on prevention.Here it is-

GROW UP AMERICA-A HEALTH CARE PLAN FOR ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS-

-Stop prolonging death. It’s both expensive and dehumanizing at best, greedy and cruel at worst.

-Empower US citizens to assume increased individual responsibility for health and convince medical consumers that it is in their best interests not to assume the role of helpless, dependent victims/patients.

-Yet also recognize that we have medicalized America’s social problems. So we must provide healthy and safe jobs for all able citizens thereby reducing poverty and all its subsequent health impacts (possibly 1/3rd of Health Care Costs)

-Provide healthy environments including healthy air, water, soil and food.

-Rebuild America’s public health infrastructure to ensure we provide appropriate macro and individual interventions to especially low income citizens such as childhood and adult immunizations and response to man-made and natural catastrophes.

-Face the reality that a very large percentage of illnesses, injuries and hospitalizations are entirely preventable. Subsequently, the elimination of tobacco, alcohol, drug, medication and dietary abuse alone could immediately reduce medical costs by a factor of at least fifty percent.

-Incent and train physicians to maintain the health of patients and populations. Radical changes in provider re-imbursement and medical education strategies are necessary

-Recognize that early childhood preventive medical education can profoundly affect lifelong health behaviors.

A corollary of my plan is that much of what we do in current treatment based medicine both diagnotically and therapeutically has never been proven to be effective. In short we have all been duped!- not necesarily denied?

How health care is financed is less important that how we use limited dollars. Many of my dear friends from the far left has not yet realized this.

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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» RE: HR 676 DOES INCLUDE PREVENTION Posted by: drricklippin
» Removing small benign tumors... Posted by: bthespoon
» RE: emoving small benign tumors... Posted by: drricklippin
» Prevention semantics aside Posted by: bthespoon
» OLD FOLKS Posted by: lifeaholic
» RE: OLD FOLKS Posted by: CJC
» RE: OLD FOLKS Posted by: JSquercia
High Cost of Medicine on YouTube
Posted by: Cathyc on Jan 22, 2008 7:46 AM   
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Instead of saying "with only one exception" in paragraph 5
Posted by: weslen1 on Jan 22, 2008 8:48 AM   
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You should have said "With the exception of Dennis Kucinich" so that those who haven't been paying attention for the last year, would know right away who you were referring to.
This is the REASON Dennis Kucinich has been systematically frozen out of the last 3 or 4 debates and will continue to be. ALL republicans, or MOST of them would rather poor elderly or disabled and some children would die and get out of the way. I get sick to my stomach every time I hear John McCain spout off about "out of control spending" on social programs like social security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps etc. even as he proudly announces he'd keep spending millions a day on the wars for 100 years or more after he's dead and buried. I guess all those trillions don't count if they're not in the budget. But none of the republican candidates ever equates "out of control spending" with Halliburton, Blackwater, Boeing or GE etc. Do they even REALIZE that sooner or later there will be no other country left to BORROW FROM?
These people are CRAZY. And only psychopaths think torture is GOOD.
I'm going to send Dennis Kucinich a check every month til the election and I hope everyone who can will do the same.

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Let those who can hear hear
Posted by: solrev on Jan 22, 2008 9:07 AM   
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As usual the people rambling about universal healthcare are speaking in tongues. Kucinich has little impact on the public because he just does not know how to make us an offer that we the people can not refuse. It makes you wonder if Kucinich is just a shill. It says in the Declaration of Independence. That everybody is entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The first obligation of the government in using your tax money is for your life. What better way than using your tax money for that purpose than healthcare? What are we really talking about? In 2006 the healthcare industry employed 14 million people. Let’s assume a medium income of $40000. The labor budget alone for healthcare is 560 billion. In 2006 the medicare tax collected was 194.8 billion. If I raise the tax from 1.45 to 3 for employers and employees I would have 403 billion. If I use another six percent of income taxes you already pay, I have 806 billion. That buys a lot of doctors, nurses, technicians, secretaries and janitors. That leaves a 246 billion surplus for management. Your total out of pocket healthcare expense is the 3% payroll deduction. Your employer’s total out of pocket expense is 3%. Your state cost is zero. Talk about a stimulus package. Taxation without representation leads to the final solution revolution. Welcome to the revolution of 2012.

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» RE: Let those who can hear hear Posted by: mainekucinich
Spread Dr. Geyman's Message Far and Wide
Posted by: larryracies on Jan 22, 2008 9:43 AM   
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Dr. Geyman's piece is spot on and should be re-printed in every paper in the USA (fat chance).

His points about every Dem candidate except Kucinich are so well taken, especially those about Hillary.

Hillary Clinton owes the American people because she delayed real health care reform for years with her putative plan in '93. Her recent comments on healthcare show that she hasn't learned a thing.

The Democratic Party will regret it if they nominate her.

Single payer is the only real healthcare reform.

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Responsibilites of the president etc
Posted by: CJC on Jan 22, 2008 9:44 AM   
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The presidential candidates and President Bush repeat like a mantra that the most profound obligation of the president is "To keep Americans safe." By this they usually mean that we need a strong military and should be ready to go to war.

What if we reminded them that more Americans suffer and die every year from lack of proper health care because they can't afford it? Would the president not be "keeping America safe" if (s)he made universal health coverage possible?

And how has it happened that "right to life" only extends to embryos and fetuses? What if the well organized "right to life" movement put its energy and political muscle to work to protect all human life and stopped focusing just on trying to control women's reproduction?
Any takers out there?

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Class Act
Posted by: ClassAct on Jan 22, 2008 10:19 AM   
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The doctor has made the correct diagnosis, single payer health care is the only way to go!
Everyone in this nation should watch Michael Moore’s “Sicko” to see how truly civilized nations deal with health care.
It makes me sick to realize that I live in a barbaric country whose leaders float evasive compromises that court inhuman consequences.

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Plus Clinton and Obama believe
Posted by: bthespoon on Jan 22, 2008 11:10 AM   
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....that the health insurers must be part of any solution (so provide loopholes big and deep enough for health insurers to bury more dead Americans). I think that's like saying the KKK must help us solve Civil Rights, or inviting Al Qaeda to help us with our National Security, etc. The health insurance industry's goals are perverse and contrary to our ability to create a transparent, sustainable, high quality, affordable, moral health care delivery system. Edwards is the only one of the top three that "gets" what needs to happen. He just doesn't think the voting public gets it yet, and from many posts I read (not all here), I'm afraid he might be right. But at least his plan WOULD get us there by forcing them onto a level playing field (unlike the rest). Obama's, Clinton's, and every Republicans' plan will only prove that their solutions are unaffordable, which coincides with what the health insurance industry wants everyone to believe. Unfortunately every plan but Single Payer (Single Pool) is unaffordable, opague, unsustainable and immoral.

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Isn't it sad
Posted by: JSquercia on Jan 22, 2008 11:11 AM   
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Isn't it sad that the Best Solution was offered by Jimmy Smits on the West Wing . Why
can't they say the Truth that the Emperor has no clothes . For Profit Insurance has as its goal PROFIT and they make that profit by turning down those applicants who they believe will COST them money . If perchance they make a mistake and inusre someone who happens to defy the odds and get sick they employ people whose sole job is to find a reason to deny care . A perfect illustration of this is that teen who recently was allowed to DIE because her treatment was deemed experimental despite its having a long history of application .

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Dr. S.R.Keister
Posted by: S.R.Keister on Jan 22, 2008 1:39 PM   
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There is only one reasonable answer and that is HR 676. As a retired physician I watched the health insurance industry abscound with the medical care system in the United States some 20 years ago while the physicians stood by and put up no resistance. There was a small group, now grown to 15,000, which stood firm. This is Physicians For A National Health Plan . The public must unite behind this effort and return our health care system to the citizens and the doctors. Our health care rates #26 worldwide (France is #1) and the USA is the only nation where health care is run for the profit of the insurance industry. Tough fight ahead as most members of the House and Senate are prostitutes if the insurance and pharmaceutical industries. We need a single payer, universal health care system overseen by a public insurance carrier. Please review the PNHP website and join the movement.

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» It's not the U.S.A. Posted by: bthespoon
All three candidates actually DO take on the insurance industry
Posted by: Jon Greenbaum on Jan 22, 2008 3:28 PM   
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1) It would be great if we could drive a dagger through the heart of the health insurance industry. Let me know when you figure out how to take them on successfully. However, if you don't have a strategy to defeat the insurance companies then you have to ask yourself if the perfect isn't the enemy of the good. If we say "singly payer or bust" we need to be aware that we could get stuck with "bust". That's fine for those of you who can afford that scenario.

If we can't win single payer then we need to critically assess what is ACTUALLY being proposed by the 3 leading Dems.

These proposals are serious transformations of the current system. Just because they aren't the best system, doesn't mean they won't deliver qualitative changes in people's lives.

2) Your article does not mention the most salient feature of the Clinton/Obama/Edwards plans- they all call for a public option. And Clinton and Edwards call for automatic enrollment into that plan (you use the conservative frame and call it a government "mandate"). As Paul Krugman points out, Obama's plan is missing this critical component. Without automatic enrollment you can't seed your public pool which then becomes more likely to fail.

The other components of the plans call for regulation and consistency so that the insurance companies can't cherry pick and the public option can compete with the private sector.

3) Uninsured citizens don't vote. Close to 100% of the voting public already has insurance and they poll that they are more nervous of an unknown government run program than they are of the existing devil. But they do support regulation. They want the government to step in partially.

The three leading Dems plans get everybody in, leave nobody out, and create, if not a single payer, then an expanded medicare for all who choose system.

Can we get Congress to pass serious legislation with serious regulation that levels the playing field? That will be depend on how much power we can galvanize. If we spend all our energy fighting for an option we will never get and sniping at substantial transformations of the system then we lose.

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» BOYCOTT! Posted by: Cathyc
This is Not Just About Money - It is A Human Rights Issue
Posted by: Liberty G on Jan 22, 2008 3:30 PM   
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AFFORDABLE, QUALITY HEALTH CARE - A HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE

PROBLEM: Our medical care system is a disaster in terms of cost - and evidence shows that we are definitely not getting our money’s worth. Moreover, not only is treatment unavailable at all to many Americans, that which is offered can be ineffective and even dangerous. “Proven” remedies may have been successful with as little as half of those in a study. Results for chronic conditions are particularly poor - causing people to seek alternative solutions. Hundreds of thousands of people are injured or dying from prescribed drugs and surgery every year. “Side effects” are not an anomaly - they are expected to commonly occur - and do.

Other developed countries provide health care to all their citizens, at far lower cost than ours, and their results are far better. They do this partly by researching and utilizing complementary & alternative medicine as part of their health care and national health insurance systems. Maybe we should at least look at what they are doing and why it works better, cheaper. For example, Britain’s cost per capita is $2,000, with all citizens covered - including at its 5 homeopathic hospitals. The U.S. spends $6,000 per person, despite the many uninsured. Germany's Commission E investigated traditional and herbal remedies for safety and effectiveness, resulting in a large body of monographs. Then, the national health system was authorized to cover prescriptions for natural remedies that were Commission-approved. Such treatments are inevitably far cheaper than prescription medications, and carry less risk.

See: www.healthy.net/scr/Article.asp?Id=510

SUGGESTION: We could enable the current office of Complementary & Alternative Medicine to establish a similar database of acceptable treatments and remedies for coverage by government programs like Medicare & Medicaid - and encourage private insurance companies to follow suit, to cut their own costs. (Some are already doing this, especially in the State of Washington, which is requiring some such coverage.) The Commission E research could be used as a beginning for such determinations.

Further links below provide more information about the cost savings and effectiveness of this approach. However, there is another issue:

My right to control my own body and the kind of health care or treatment I choose. This concept is usually associated with abortion - it is actually more valid in relation to medical practices. Why should I not be able to refuse to use - or pay for - treatments which I consider to be deleterious to my health and not effective? This is one of the problems with the mandatory insurance coverage approach in Massachusetts, espoused also by some candidates. I am particularly disappointed with John Edwards, who has just said he would require MANDATORY “preventive” care, including mammograms. How dare he tell me what to do with my own breasts? Please consider seriously the following problems with Massachusetts-style programs:

1. "Affordable" care is not affordable for me or my husband.
2. We wouldn't qualify for any assistance because we rely on income from investments in a small nest egg to survive.
3. We would be forced to pay for "coverage" for medical care that we would not use.
4. The cheaper, safer, more effective care we want would be excluded.
See some info at:
http://naturalhealthline.com/newsletter/15jun03/hillary.htm

And don't even get me started on REAL prevention by understanding environmental connections to health conditions!

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healthcare
Posted by: estherme on Jan 22, 2008 4:10 PM   
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All you selfish people that are against health care for American citizens, where were you when Bush printed money for this war and his administrations other dirty deeds. It is okay to spend billions on an illegal war, but not on American people. There must be a way to get people health care without touching your selfish greedy money. One day you will need healthcare and hopefully you won't be in a personal situation where you can't afford it. I bet then you'd accept help with you medical bills or even accept national healthcare. We always have money for foreign aid and other BS, but nothing for Americans. You should be ashamed of yourselves, you greedy sobbbbbbs!

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» Fear-ridden America... Posted by: Cathyc
Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Jan 22, 2008 5:35 PM   
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What Obama didn't say is HOW Reagan changed the trajectory of American politics. The GOP dragged the whole spectrum to the right. The "Democrats" of today are the "Moderate Republicans" of 1975.

A Vote of Confidence Amendment will enable the American voting public to dismiss and hold over for criminal prosecution any elected official who fails in their obligation to serve the people of the United States.

VOCA, now

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Dennis Kucinich
Posted by: armorypk on Jan 22, 2008 9:24 PM   
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Thank you for exposing the deficiencies in the half-assed health care plans proposed by the "leading" candidates. If you were to write similarly comprehensive columns about the Iraq War, Impeachment, Global Warming or the Economy, this one sentence - this One Simple Truth, would apply in every case: "Only one of the six Democratic presidential candidates gets it right on (fill in the blank). Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)"
A friend of mine - a charming gentleman in his late 70s - was expressing his frustration with the Democratic candidates and their inability (or unwillingness) to take courageous, uncompromising positions on any serious issue.
He asked me who I was supporting. I told him Dennis Kucinich, and I told him why. It was an easy sell. He looked at me in utter disbelief and said, "I've never heard of him! How come I've never heard of him?! "How come?" indeed.

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IF WE CAN ACHIEVE A NATIONAL INITIATIVE PETITION AMENDMENT
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jan 23, 2008 11:22 PM   
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we can begin to take politics away from big money. What do you want to bet they are smart enough to never let it pass. Both Ralph Nader and Ross Perot supported a national petition law.

We could have had Iraq on the ballot. We could have had single payer health on the ballot. Ask your self what you would have signed a petition for.

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