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Health & Wellness

Should Tobacco Companies Be Required to Reduce Their Number of Customers?

By Stephen D. Sugarman, UC Berkeley School of Law. Posted January 18, 2008.


It may be time to step outside of traditional public health strategy.
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If tobacco companies were required by law to sharply reduce their number of U.S. customers, we might finally rid our country of the scourge of smoking. It's a bold idea that merits a closer look.

The traditional public health strategy is to order tobacco companies to do things like put warnings on their packages or stop advertising on billboards in the hope that this would reduce smoking rates.

But U.S. Senator Mike Enzi, R-Wyo., has proposed a tobacco-control plan that cuts to the chase and simply orders companies to get fewer people to smoke. With roots in the regulation of power plant emissions and the educational reform act known as No Child Left Behind, Enzi's idea is that government would set performance goals for tobacco companies to meet. Instead of conventional "command and control" regulation -- in which government regulators tell people what to do -- under "outcome-based regulation," government tells them what to achieve.

How would tobacco firms comply? They could raise prices, promote cessation aids, sell nontobacco competitive products or innovate in ways we can't imagine. What to do and how to do it is their decision to make.

Under the senator's plan, tobacco companies would be required to reduce their U.S. customer base by approximately 90 percent over two decades. At the end of that period, our country could be down to an incredibly low smoking rate of about 2 percent, an ambitious target. Companies that failed to meet performance goals would face whopping financial penalties, making it fiscally more attractive for them to lose smokers than to gain new ones.

As bold as it sounds, Enzi's idea of imposing outcome-based regulation on cigarette companies is not entirely new. It surfaced as part of the never-enacted "Global Settlement" of tobacco litigation to prevent teen smoking in the late 1990s. It re-emerged in testimony presented by the Department of Justice in its racketeering case against the tobacco industry. But once the Bush administration took control of the case, the idea of outcome-based regulation was dropped.

Certain tobacco-control measures have proven to be effective -- increased cigarette taxes, bans on indoor smoking and harsh "counter-ads" that disparage the tobacco industry -- all of which have been adopted in California. Yet even here the impact of such tactics may have peaked.

Social norms may continue to evolve against smoking without further governmental intervention. But leading anti-smoking advocates are not content to wait. Most support a bill that would give the Food and Drug Administration regulatory authority over tobacco products. But there has been grumbling within the tobacco-control community about this bipartisan effort lead by democrats -- Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., and Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif. Dissenters consider the proposed bill flawed and inherently suspect, given its support by tobacco giant Philip Morris.

Other anti-smoking advocates call for increasing the federal tobacco tax, a strategy included in the congressional plan to expand the federal health insurance program for children in low- and middle-income families. But this law ran afoul of a presidential veto that supporters seem unable to override. And in California, voters recently nixed a sharp increase in cigarette taxes proposed in a ballot initiative.

Enzi's idea deserves bipartisan support. It establishes a laudable public health goal and forces business to take responsibility for achieving it. It does not impose anything that can be called taxes (at least not if tobacco firms do their jobs right). If Congress does not move on the Enzi proposal, the idea could be adopted by California. Gov. Schwarzenegger and the legislature could team up to commit the tobacco industry to reduce the smoking rate in our state below 10 percent by 2012, a reduction of one percentage point per year.

Dramatically reducing smoking rates is one of the greatest public health steps we can take to prevent the more than 400,000 annual deaths caused by smoking.

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Stephen D. Sugarman is the Roger J. Traynor Professor of Law at the University of California, Berkeley, Law School and author of books on smoking policy and tobacco regulation.

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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jan 18, 2008 1:38 AM   
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Smoking doesn't bother me, as long as they keep it outside.

As for the health of smokers, that's their business, just like people who drink, do drugs, eat junk food, etc. I suppose their bad health could raise the collective cost of health care, but so does the health of people who are genetically pre-disposed to bad health, go to tanning salons, or who choose to live in LA. Who are we to judge?

Big Brother monitors and controls so many other aspects of our lives. Does the Left not see the contradiction in this?

I don't really see the need to beat up the tobacco companies either. They may be greedy, and not care about our health, but what company does? Even Ben and Jerry are in on it. So what? I like ice cream that tastes like ice cream.

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» Labels Posted by: Leman
» RE: No Posted by: Chickensh*tEagle
» RE: No Posted by: NoPCZone
» Cool name Posted by: kepstein7777
» RE: No Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» RE: No Posted by: NoPCZone
» RE: No Posted by: Chickensh*tEagle
» RE: No Posted by: SavageDissension
More Bright Ideas
Posted by: tristanfarnon on Jan 18, 2008 3:12 AM   
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It is simply terrifying that a scheme such as this would even be considered. The zealotry of the anti-smoking crowd knows no bounds and stalks our country, indeed the entire Western world, unchecked. Wait until this sort of vicious maternalism comes to your favorite vice (e.g, liquor companies, snack food manufacturers ordered to put themselves out of business for the public good): then you'll see.

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» RE: More Bright Ideas Posted by: bobson
» RE: More Bright Ideas Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» RE: More Bright Ideas Posted by: Knot_Rich
The Happy way out!
Posted by: carbon-based on Jan 18, 2008 3:59 AM   
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Interesting, but if we can't seem to come to grips with drug use in this country and we think it's ok for everyone to smoke pot, why go after tobbaco?

They'll just replace tobbaco with pot in. At least we'll all be happier as we kill ourselves!

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all these bright ideas will do is....
Posted by: ellie on Jan 18, 2008 3:59 AM   
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push tobacco use underground, and create a black market...

how people spend their money is their business.... please convince me that a big mac is healthier then a cigarette, there is scientific evidence that the big mac is the greater risk to public health between the two...

back to early coffee... hmmmmm.....

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Another Point
Posted by: Sissy on Jan 18, 2008 4:51 AM   
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When I started smoking the cost of a pack of cigarettes was $.25 and today in Wisconsin a pack costs nearly $5.00. I look at teenagers and wonder where in the dickens do they get the money to buy this terribly expensive habit? Any job they might have would take a huge chunk of their salary if they smoked steadily and I'm sure not too many parents "encourage" their kids.

Its very uncommon to go into a restaurant anymore or sit at a bar and see an awfully lot of people lighting up. Besides the health issues, the cost has got to be an effect. When I started smoking it was supposed to be "cool". Everyone did it and there was never a word about the risks. This habit took me thru most of my early life including pregnacies with nary a concern for anything. We showed no concern for the non-smoker either, giving little thought to asking for an ashtray in a non-smoker's house or lighting up in a car. Today that would be the ultimate in bad taste (pardon the pun), to not show consideration. I hate it when sitting at a bar having a drink before being called into dinner, to have smoke blown in my face, but yet I did it all the time and never, ever thought of that non-smoking companion on the next seat over. I like to think "I've come a long way baby"!

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» RE: Another Point Posted by: Knot_Rich
» RE: Another Point Posted by: Sissy
Horrible Health Problem- Bad Solution
Posted by: drricklippin on Jan 18, 2008 5:17 AM   
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This won't work as other writers have suggested.

What will work in my opinion is reducing demand for tobacco by providing healthy families,schools,workplaces and communities that do not stress people into the need for tobacco to cope.

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton, Pa
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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NO They Shouldn't
Posted by: MainStreetMentor on Jan 18, 2008 5:36 AM   
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Reducing their customer base would be like asking GM or FORD to reduce their customer base because 400,000 accidents occured using their vehicles.

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» RE: NO They Shouldn't Posted by: kroenung58
» RE: NO They Shouldn't Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» RE: NO They Shouldn't Posted by: henderson
relative risks
Posted by: Forrest on Jan 18, 2008 5:40 AM   
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Libertarians notwithstanding, cigarette smoking is clearly a social problem.
Passive smoking endangers the lives of non-smokers, especially women and children.
There are innocent victims.

And there is a monetary cost for our society as well. My father, a veteran of World War II, had frequent medical bills for his open heart surgery, the stroke, and finally the cancer, all paid for by the VA and the federal government.

According to the CDC, cigarette smoking is the number one preventable cause of death in the United States today.

How ironic is it that the federal government spends billions of dollars each and every year to make us safe from an enemy that killed a few thousand back in 2001 and at the very same time subsidizes the Tobacco Industry which kills over 400,000 Americans each and every year?

How ironic is it that the federal government spends millions of dollars each and every year fighting the "Drug War" when the legal Tobacco Industry kills over 400,000 Americans each and every year?

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» RE: relative risks Posted by: dsh2va
Outcome-based strategy? Hmm...
Posted by: Chickensh*tEagle on Jan 18, 2008 5:42 AM   
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Maybe we should require all tobacco company executives to smoke six packs a day, whether or not they'd smoke otherwise. Give them a chance to use that top-tier health insurance. That might produce a very salutary outcome.

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Some people will never quit
Posted by: andabottleof_rum on Jan 18, 2008 5:42 AM   
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Under the senator's plan, tobacco companies would be required to reduce their U.S. customer base by approximately 90 percent over two decades. At the end of that period, our country could be down to an incredibly low smoking rate of about 2 percent, an ambitious target.

Yeah, companies could be required by law to decrease the number of smokers buying their products, but that doesn't mean it would ever be down to 2%. There is a core of smokers who will probably never quit, and they include many depressives, bipolars, and schizophrenics who use nicotine to keep their minds together. There are such people in my family.

My mother for example, who has been variously diagnosed as bipolar and paranoid schizophrenic, once chased my father with a shovel and threatened to kill him if he didn't go to the store to buy her cigarettes. She's broke, but cigarettes come before all other expenses for her (now she rolls her own), and honestly I think they do more for her mind than any medication she's taken over the years (lithobid, depakote, lamictal, celexa, zyprexa, clonazepam, tegretol, inderol, seroquel). If she had to buy cigarettes underground like crack and rob people to afford them, I'm sure she'd do it. Frankly, she's so out of her mind it wouldn't even be her fault if she had to rob a person for the money.

I agree the anti-smoking crowd has to be careful how far they push their cause, since there is real potential for underground markets and the violent crime and social decay that come with them. It's good to get as many people as possible to quit, which would probably require better access to mental health services and less stress in life, but some people never will. They're generally miserable anyway and don't care that it may take years off their lives.

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» RE: Some people will never quit Posted by: setterwoman
Did any catch the not-so-subtle thumbing of the electorate's choice?
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jan 18, 2008 6:09 AM   
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And in California, voters recently nixed a sharp increase in cigarette taxes proposed in a ballot initiative.

So, it appears the anti-smoking crowd has a problem: voters declined to support any further mandates on smokers in CA.

Gov. Schwarzenegger and the legislature could team up to commit the tobacco industry to reduce the smoking rate in our state below 10 percent by 2012, a reduction of one percentage point per year.

So, confronted with this problem of backing an unpopular mandate, what do you do? Why, you go over the peoples' heads and talk to the real handlers (*cough, cough*) of the CA electorate: Guv Arny and the Legislative circus. Wow, that paternalistic instinct really is on display this morning--if the people won't do what we know is best for them, well, we'll do it for them. Never mind that "big daddy" in this case has a long history of harassing females, and a recent history of politically attacking school teachers.

Very progressive way of doing things, if getting your way at all costs, in defiance of the will of the people is progress.

Meh. If the notice printed on cigarettes, indicating they have a high probability of killing you early, slowly, and with much associated pain isn't enough to deter someone, do you think Arny, despite all his bulging paternalistic political muscles that are being fawned over by the Smoking Prohibition League, really is?

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» Caught the religion, have ya? Posted by: ABetterFuture
CUT THE SH*T
Posted by: NoPCZone on Jan 18, 2008 7:31 AM   
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Liberals are supposed to be progressive, but not when it comes to smoking. Not only are we taxed to death to subsidize everything from anti-smoking ads to meals on wheels, we are expected to pay for your kid's SCHIP and elder transport vans. Why don't you stop shifting your health care costs and elder transport on just one group of people?They seem to be on a Jihad against smokers and it is time to let it go- ENOUGH.

I smoke- outside, even at my own house. I do not smoke at work, as a Repugnican governor signed an executive order forbidding it even outside, campuswide at any healthcare facility. I buy my own insurance, so what is the problem?

I don't care if you drink, tan or have unprotected sex- it's none of my businesss. Likewise, If I smoke and it isn't around you, leave me alone.

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» RE: CUT THE SH*T Posted by: henderson
While we're at it...
Posted by: VickyinSD on Jan 18, 2008 8:00 AM   
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let's put the same pressure on the manufacturers of liquor, since the number of alcohol related deaths, either directly or indirectly, have to be at a higher rate than tobacco. Or let's put a quota on how many bags of potato chips or candy bars that obese people are allowed to purchase in one grocery transaction, since healthcare costs related to obesity are also extremely high.

Then we can go full-speed ahead with the government's plans to protect us from ourselves, whatever the cost.

When the government gets it's nose out of the private lives and preferences of it's citizens, then we will truly be a "free" country. Until then, just eat, drink and be happy! (Yeah... right.)

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Iddy-boo!
Posted by: ankhet on Jan 18, 2008 8:05 AM   
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Oh those poor tobacco companies! They've had only 35 years to adjust to the new reality. Poor poor rich poisoners! Tobacco and guns - two products that when used as directed, will kill you. Or somebody else. That's a good reason to reduce the presence of both.

Now with biofuels being all the rage (idiotic as it is), it ought to be attractive enough for the tobacco pushers to grow fuel crops. Or - gasp - grow food for a world where food is starting to run out!

Not only have they had 35+ years to turn around, but they've been subsidized every step of the way (while raising cigarette prices), and YOU the hapless taxpayer, will AGAIN be forced to reach into your pocket to pay for whatever costs and "hardships" the tobacco pushers will encounter, or invent.

It's just more corporate extortion combined with corporate lying and whining.

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Dangerous idea
Posted by: Gravitas on Jan 18, 2008 8:18 AM   
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I hate smoking. I am allergic to it. I have gotten into many a verbal altercation with smokers. BUT, this is just too much government interference. Besides, when they count the cost of tobacco use, they don't subtract from social security and medicare what it saves from smokers dying early. Sorry, but fair is fair. If you are going to use numbers, use accurate ones.

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» Fair is NOT fair! Posted by: charlief
» Is Too!! Posted by: Tom Tele
Beautiful!
Posted by: ankhet on Jan 18, 2008 8:34 AM   
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Almost perfect phrasing!

"Should Tobacco Companies Be Required to Reduce Their Number of Customers?"
The only improvement I would suggest is "should tobacco companies be FORCED to reduce...?"

Full of hot-button terminology, guaranteed to make most responders completely miss the point. Suddenly everyone is writing about freedoms and choice - and whether something is left or right in the Land of Unbridled Individualism.

And cancelling each other out completely, polarizing, paralyzing any possible action.

Do you agree, lefty or righty, that tobacco use is a serious health hazard? Does evidence exist to support that view?

Do you agree, lefty or righty, that a preventable health hazard can or ought to be removed from the scene? Much as lead-based paint on children's toys - or is it your "choice" to buy them because the colours are so pretty?

Do you believe, lefty or righty, that the tobacco companies can busy themselves with more sensible money-making propositions and that they've had plenty of time (and of your money) to make the switch by now? And don't need even more time (and your money)?

Because, count on it, the strategy of getting huge bailouts from government (you) is now an integral part of every business plan.

Focus on where you're really getting f***ed over, not whether Auntie Ida has a "right" to her daily nic-fix.

What about your right not to be eviscerated by the corporate vultures all the time?

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» RE: Beautiful! Posted by: dsh2va
» RE: Beautiful! Posted by: ankhet
ridiculous question!
Posted by: Doubtom on Jan 18, 2008 9:08 AM   
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Tobacco companies should be put out of business period! For someone to be a to peddle such a proven dangerous substance is criminal in itself.

We have all the statistics we need to close down the tobacco traffic yet it continues because of money and bribery. This nation is rotten to the core and we're not brave enough to admit it. Meanwhile let's fill our jails and prisons for those using the relatively harmless marijuana.

If i were supreme leader for a day, I know whose heads I'd be going after and I wouldn't waste prison space either.

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» RE: ridiculous question! Posted by: Knot_Rich
ridiculous question!
Posted by: Doubtom on Jan 18, 2008 9:08 AM   
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Tobacco companies should be put out of business period! For someone to be a to peddle such a proven dangerous substance is criminal in itself.

We have all the statistics we need to close down the tobacco traffic yet it continues because of money and bribery. This nation is rotten to the core and we're not brave enough to admit it. Meanwhile let's fill our jails and prisons for those using the relatively harmless marijuana.

If i were supreme leader for a day, I know whose heads I'd be going after and I wouldn't waste prison space either.

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» RE: ridiculous question! Posted by: jwpa13
They already are through natural attrition
Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on Jan 18, 2008 9:13 AM   
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as the product kills off its customers.

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no more help for big brother
Posted by: jwpa13 on Jan 18, 2008 11:52 AM   
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we need to understand that BIG BROTHER is working to encourage those on the left and the right to join "him" in the plan to control us all. we need to say NO, to introducing new laws that control our daily lives. smoking might be bad for us as humans, but allowing, or worse yet promoting, laws to control our behavior is a lot worse.

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OK Alternet
Posted by: Joe on Jan 18, 2008 12:43 PM   
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Is there any part of my life i'm allowed to have control over? Please let me know now if we're going down this socialist route so I can stop wasting my time busting my ass and sacrificing to get somewhere in life. i hate to think the many hours i put in every day on the job is going to be turned over to someone else so please give me a head's up.

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» RE: OK Alternet Posted by: xbj
» RE: OK Alternet Posted by: charlief
Tobbaco is the only product, when used as directed, destroys the health of the user
Posted by: xbj on Jan 18, 2008 1:44 PM   
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And in most cases, fatally. And many times, people that don't use the product but merely live or work indoors with someone who does.

No company should be allowed to sell poison unless it is clearly marked as such and only used to kill.

One day the human race will evolve to a point where it will figure this out; that day is not yet here.

Most unfortunately. The hardest thing to legislate is common sense and intelligence.

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IT IS A MOOT POINT BECAUSE THEY ALREADY DO THAT BY
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jan 18, 2008 11:49 PM   
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killing off their customers. Sadly, it is often a slow and painful death. Most of our smart alec anti smoking measures strike the poor unfairly. A tobacco tax is a regressive tax. The mentally handicapped live on the street and smoke snipes. There are two things that don't fit together. Quitting smoking and being mentally handicapped are mutually exclusive catagories. You cannot take 615 dollars a month, house yourself, feed yourself, and buy 4 or 5 dollar packs of cigarettes. That is the size of a social security check for the mentally handicapped (known by the reciepients as a crazy check). They walk the streets, go to the library to get warm, dumpster dive, and smoke snipes. Doesn't it make you proud to be an American?

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run4bear
Posted by: run4bear on Jan 19, 2008 8:36 AM   
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How stupid! The nanny state is winning. Well, of course it is: "No Child Left Behind" means "none left with the ability to think".

HELP smokers stop! As a 40 year smoker, I finally got sick of being sick and quit cold turkey. It wasn't the taxes or the ostracization.

Smokers are drug addicts. I was one (still am, I still want a cigarette). It is a disease.

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When the other shoe drops...
Posted by: chugach3Dguy on Jan 19, 2008 9:34 AM   
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I agree with many of the people who are against this type of idea. My point I'd like to add is very simple:

How will the government replace the money it loses when everyone finally quits smoking? Cigarettes cost so much these days because they're taxed to the stratosphere! Just last year alone, my home state of Alaska took in a little over 53 MILLION dollars from the tobacco tax. Only a small percentage of that money goes into anti-smoking propaganda/PSAs. A lot of people aren't thinking this one through. We NEED those smokers to keep smoking, because if they don't, Uncle Sam will start taxing something you feel shouldn't be taxed.

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Fuck You, Nanny State Fascists
Posted by: Uriahz on Jan 20, 2008 3:23 PM   
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I am so fucking sick of anti-smoking activists.

Fuck you. Seriously. Please take your high horse and shove it up your pretentious holier-than-thou ass. I don't care if you quit smoking 4 packs a day.

I mostly smoke outside. How exactly is this a health risk for anyone but me? I don't know if you noticed, you dumb shits, but there's MILLIONS OF FUCKING CARS ON THE ROAD SPEWING SMOKE. You're a fucking retard if you think you're more likely to get sick from walking by a smoker than an idling truck.

We are seeing social shifts in our culture away from smoking. That means that you now have non-smoking nightlife and restaurant options even in places without fascist anti-smoking laws. See, it's called CHOICE. If you want to go to a place and drink noxious crap that makes you do dumb shit and kill your liver and breathe poison air that gives you cancer, then you should damn well be allowed to do so.

I smoke two or three cigarettes a day. Christ almighty, I'm such a fucking health risk for you. I'm such an ADDICT. It's ruining my life. It's always the people who have no sense of self-moderation who are the most vocal opponents of others' freedom.

Oh, I know! Next we should ban martial arts, because they teach you how to fight, and fighting is bad. We're too fucking dumb to understand why anyone would want to engage in something destructive like that, so it should be illegal. That way it'll be easier for us to pretend that our lives are as safe and pure as we think they ought to be.

It's as dumb as the anti-gun activists. Ask them if they want the military to have guns, and they'll either say no (because they're idiots who believe no other country would use violence against an unarmed nation) or yes (because they're idiots who believe our government would never use violence against an unarmed populace). It's not about doing what's best for the people-- it's about feeling safe and fuzzy in your imaginary little world where nobody ever wants to hurt themselves or others. After all-- YOU have the answers to the world's problems, and those who don't see the world the same as you are mentally ill. You are not better than the balls-ass crazy christian right because you pay LIP SERVICE to tolerance and diversity. It's the same fascist mentality, and you're too self-absorbed to see it.

And no, I'm not a conservative. I'm a liberal. You know, as in Liberty? Does that concept mean ANYTHING to you?

Dumb fucks. You play right into the hands of the right-wing with your fascist bullshit rhetoric. Please give up politics forever. By which I do mean that YOU'RE HURTING AMERICA.

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smoke screen
Posted by: Dianka on Jan 20, 2008 6:28 PM   
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The discussion of cigarette smoking has, indeed, deteriorated to the point of fanatical ramblings.

Smoking is not healthy. It also smells bad. It is also not a crisis. Some people do believe that government should have more power to make our personal choices for us, and they can list their justifications for that. I think gov does that enough already. How does government rate on taking measures for the sake of our health? We have a set of social policies that has resulted in the US now having one of the highest infant mortality rates among all modern nations, and the life expectancy of the poor has been on a downhill slide. Preventive medicine is beyond the reach of many/most, and we have our annual outbreaks of death by food poisoning. Government isn't very concerned about those things, so it would be hard to comprehend their obsession with smokers if not for that little word, TAXES. Although under 18% of American adults smoke, they pay a wildly disproportionate amount of taxes.

What is really disturbing is that the cigarette issue is used to evade the real crisis. Global warming isn't being caused by cigarette smoke. Due to very stringent restrictions, most of us have no exposure to cigarette smoke whatsoever. The greater danger is the smoke spewed into the air every time you turn the ignition on your car. Smoke produced by burning fossil fuels contains oil particles, making it the most carcinogenic type of smoke to which the average person is exposed. Far more people drive than smoke.

Gov targets cigarettes precisely because so few smoke, and because it is one product that can be excessively taxed. Best of all, it has done an excellent job at distracting people from the real dangers. Tackling those issues would require Americans to significantly reduce non-essential driving, and would put some burden of responsibility on major corporations.
Gas rationing, etc., would upset too many voters, and corporations are the ones who finance political careers, so both are off the table.

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nonney
Posted by: nonney on Jan 21, 2008 8:01 AM   
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This is just one more step towards a government that sticks its nose into private decisions. We are already controlled to a nonsensical degree, and how this can even be considered is a question for Lewis Carroll. (Alice in Wonderland) People die from all sorts of things, and if the government wants so badly to keep us alive, let them introduce a health system we all have access to; not only emergency rooms with insane prices, but preventative health care to stop a crisis. This bill is not in that realm, as if we continued in this vein we have to outlaw liquor, butter, cream, food additives, cell phones, and a myriad of other things. I do not know where the mind-set of 'keeping people alive' became dogma . There is no way to keep people from doing harmful things, or from dying. We are all leaving, one way or the other. Live and let die.....may be a good by-word for these life fanatics. This whole premise is absurd, scary, and dangerous to the freedoms we still are luck y enough to have; such as controlling what we put into lives, or take out of them. We are not children, and the government is not our parent. I hope.

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Tom Tele
Posted by: Tom Tele on Jan 23, 2008 11:27 AM   
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I do not understand why the choice I am given ideologically is either "freedom" for corporations to loot, pollute and pillage with impunity or a nanny state that ,theoretically will regulate industry but also regulate our choices in life. Why not regulate industry/business with an eye toward public/environmental health coupled with personal libertarianism and freedom? Nanny state versus total freedom for corporations? Don't I get a third choice?

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