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Health & Wellness

How to Address Obesity in a Fat-Phobic Society

By Courtney E. Martin, AlterNet. Posted October 17, 2007.


It's time to stop treating obesity as the problem of a lazy individual.
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A friend of mine -- I'll call her Ellen -- recently went to her regular medical clinic after realizing that she was newly suffering from an old family problem: acid reflux. Her doctor was out on maternity leave, so she met with a replacement. Without asking Ellen any questions about her relationship to her weight (she is overweight and well aware of it), he launched into a robotic exposition about dieting.

Ellen explained to him that she worked out regularly and also did her best to eat healthy, but had a philosophical problem with turning food into the enemy. He simply retorted: "The only way you're going to lose weight is to cut the carbs. So ... cut the carbs."

"When he brought up my weight I wanted to have a real conversation with him, but instead he gave me his version of my 'problem'," Ellen said. "It made me really angry."

My friend's experience is not an anomaly. In fact, it is representative of a still unchanged attitude among too many medical doctors and nutritionists that fat people are problems to be solved; if they can just come up with the perfect equation, they figure, BMIs can be lowered and the supposed obesity epidemic eradicated.

This attitude shows up in doctor's offices where overweight and obese patients are often subjected to inquisition-like questioning. Yet they are rarely asked other, arguably more important questions: What's your experience of your body? How is your quality of life? How do you feel about your weight?

It also shows up in obesity intervention programs throughout the country, where a person's culture, class, education, or even genetics, are overlooked in the dogged pursuit to motivate what too many clinicians see as "lazy Americans" to lose pounds.

It's not as if we don't have the evidence that these factors -- culture, class, education, genetics -- matter. Yet another study just came out by University of Washington researchers who found gaping disparities in obesity rates among ZIP codes in the Seattle area. Every $100,000 in median home value for a ZIP code corresponded with a 2 percent drop in obesity.

Adam Drewnowski, director of the UW Center for Obesity Research, told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer,"If you have this mind-set that obesity has to do with the individual alone, then ZIP codes or areas really should not come into this. But they do, big-time."

This is not to say that individual behavior doesn't play a vital role in our country's obesity rate, but we too often neglect to think about the cultural and institutional influences on a person's behavior when it comes to eating and exercise.

You would never look at a working class, single mother driving a jalopy with three kids crawling around in the back and say, "Gees, what's her problem? Why can't she drive the Lexus hybrid like me?" You understand that she doesn't have the means, and furthermore, probably doesn't have the peer influence that would make it seem like a viable option.

Our judgmental, fat-phobic society seems even more ridiculous when you consider that there is a strong genetic component to weight. We now have ample scientific evidence suggesting that we are each born with a set point within which our metabolism will automatically adjust no matter how many calories we consume. It's like our working class mom could be dedicatedly saving up for that hybrid, but the money just keeps disappearing from her bank account.


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Courtney E. Martin is the author of Perfect Girls, Starving Daughters: The Frightening New Normalcy of Hating Your Body. You can read more about her work at www.courtneyemartin.com.

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I completely agree
Posted by: Camilla Cracchiolo on Oct 17, 2007 12:13 AM   
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A fine article.

However, I predict an onslaught of self-righteous comments calling fat people 'pigs' and overstating the health risks of obesity, demanding that fat people not be allowed to get health insurance and the wishful thinking that what you eat will almost always prevent devastating illness from hitting YOU.

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» I almost completely agree Posted by: truebelledotcom
How About Taking Personal Responsibility
Posted by: Jeff Hoffman on Oct 17, 2007 12:28 AM   
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This column typifies one of the worst aspects of the left, which is the ideology that only the big bad corporations or government is to blame for everything and that individuals have no responsibility for their actions. The fact is that only a tiny minority of obese or fat people are that way due to genetics. The vast majority are obese or fat because they eat too much, don't exercise enough or at all, or both. I do agree that people living in slums where no good food is available are being poisoned by the crap that's sold at the corner liquor stores as food, but those people are a small minority of Americans who are obese. The vast majority of obese people have ample access to decent food.

My European friends often comment on how fat Americans are. These friends are generally working class and very left leaning, so this isn't some elitist crap they're laying on us. Most fat Americans have no one but themselves to blame for being fat, because they don't take the time or effort to exercise or eat properly. It's time the left began to realize that people ARE responsible for their actions and everything can't be blamed on the rich; let's save blaming them for what they're really responsible for, there's plenty of it.

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» Noone but themselves to blame? Posted by: jparsons
» RE: Noone but themselves to blame? Posted by: lepidopteryx
» RE: Point taken... Posted by: EagleMB
» Very Sad... Posted by: bcgirl125
Obesity IS a Class Issue
Posted by: Lily H. on Oct 17, 2007 12:47 AM   
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Most interesting, this article. I am a working-class single mother
who, until very recently, worked two jobs, six days a week, and
could only squeeze in one weekend afternoon (after work) a
swim at my local "Y". I worked out for three years, and made
much progress on my physique, but also note that without a
car, I was not able to work out more often.
Two years ago, I was suddenly diagnosed with Stage IV breast cancer, had to move to a smaller residence (where I now live
alone, my kids are now grown), and cope with my new illness
as best as I could living on S.S.I.
What I've discovered that compared to my previous working life, I now had time to focus on physical health, learn to be
able to pamper myself, and eat healthier than I used to.
What I've also discovered is it takes a lot of work to eat
healthier, as I've noted, you can't keep a head of lettuce
(or any produce, for that matter) for a week in your fridge.
In order to be able to just keep up a regimen of healthy eating, you have to shop several times a week to keep
fresh fruits and vegetables available for most every meal.
There is no way on God's earth with the kind of grueling
schedule I used to keep that I could have the luxury of
sashaying off to my local health food produce store to
keep fresh food on hand as I can now that I no longer am
working.
I also note the plethora of obesity-oriented reality shows;
that of "Big Medicine" and "The Biggest Loser". My daughter
and I were just discussing these shows earlier this evening,
and I hypothesized that shows like this are being made to
create a sense of revulsion for viewers who are warned
either to not get fat, or this is where you will wind up.
My daughter pointedly noticed many of the "Biggest Loser"
contestants were paraded in front of the viewing audiences
with extremely noticeable flaws about their bodies, as well
as "just fat", so to speak, and wondered if they felt self-
conscious about being on TV.
I can't help but wonder if this is truly the intent of the
minds behind these shows, and simply trotting out the "lose
weight, get healthy" is just a smoke-screen for fat hatred?

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» RE: Obesity IS a Class Issue Posted by: Urstrly
» RE: Obesity IS a Class Issue Posted by: hagwind
» RE: Obesity IS a Class Issue Posted by: angryyoungwoman
» RE: Obesity IS a Class Issue Posted by: Babushka
Sponsorship of Professional Sports
Posted by: Cruella on Oct 17, 2007 1:41 AM   
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2.9
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Oct 17, 2007 2:43 AM   
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1. In addition to genetic explanations, I would add that some people can't exercise due to physical limitations.

2. If being poor makes you fat, then how do you explain all the poor people in 3rd world countries who aren't fat?

3. Exercise is a key component of weight control, yet so few people do it. Taking a walk around the block doesn't cost anything.

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» RE: 2.9 Posted by: ankhet
» RE: 2.9 Posted by: hagwind
» RE: 2.9 Posted by: ankhet
» Somr third worlders ARE fat Posted by: Democratic Socialist
» RE: 2.9 Posted by: JERSEYDAN
» The third world Posted by: YogiBear
The "Macrcoscope" is Finally Being Used
Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 17, 2007 4:28 AM   
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Finally organized bio-medicine is using the "macroscope" as well as the microscope to solve some of our nation's most serious health problems. By that I mean variables such as SES=Socio-Economic Status correlates to all sorts of health issues like Obesity.

Also increased stress, also associated with low SES ,definitely increases especially abdomenal obesity. The biology of this is well defined.

Great article!

Dr. Rick Lippin
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com

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do you read labels?
Posted by: aislinnluv on Oct 17, 2007 4:43 AM   
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i do! check out the labels on some common foods and condiments (ketchup, worcestershire sauce, etc.). these days it is difficult to find a prepared food that does not include the ingredient "high fructose corn syrup". this is not a naturally occurring additive - it is highly processed and has no nutritional value. in fact, it is very likely a health hazard. even bread products now have this as one of the main ingredients. i challenge you to look at the list of ingredients next time you go to buy bread. asking people to give up carbohydrates entirely is absurd, but even food that is not considered "carb" contains this ingredient. it is entirely for the profit of the manufacturers that this is in our diet, and its inclusion probably contributes to the problem of weight with which many of us struggle. obesity in america has many underlying causes. let's not forget that seemingly innocent foods can be as much a part of that as the trend over the past several years to make servings at restaurants and take-away food merchants enormous. some responsibility has to be laid at the feet of the purveyors.

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» The high art of label reading Posted by: jparsons
Isn't It Ironic
Posted by: diof09 on Oct 17, 2007 4:53 AM   
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That corporate America in their obsession to sell us on the idea that everything should be "easy, simple, convenient, no effort" if we'd just buy their product, are the same ones screaming their heads off now that so many Americans are reflecting this mindset with their overfed, underexercised bodies and taxing the health care system. Hey, I've been working out for 14 years and watching my portions. It's ALL about calories consumed versus calories burned. I am an almost 48 year old female and weigh 115 lbs at 5'4", and I live in the cornfed-midwest where 2/3rds of the people my age are overweight or obese! If you can't always control the quality of the food, you can always control the quantity. It all begins with taking control of yourself, parenting yourself if necessary and not copping out with excuses.

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» RE: Isn't It Ironic Posted by: phatkhat
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» RE: Isn't It Ironic Posted by: sunspot
» You Nailed It Sunspot! Posted by: diof09
» RE: Isn't It Ironic Posted by: ankhet
Way too common
Posted by: El Hombre Malo on Oct 17, 2007 4:54 AM   
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The experience of the author's friend is similar to mine. Some years ago I needed a minor, ambulatory surgical intervention, but because I have a history of beign too tolerant to local anestesic procedures (that meaning I may need almost double the dosage recomended for my weight), the surgeon prefered to use general anestesy and so I had to do all the clinical tests usually equired for serious interventions. Blood samples, pressure, cardio, ecocardio,urine... Instead of going to a different place for each tests, I went to a certain hospital because they would do them all in one morning. I woke up early and didnt have breakfast, spent three hours doing tests and reading in waiting rooms and when all was done, I was said that a doctor would give me the results in an hour. Since it was already late in the morning, I decided to have an early lunch rather than a late breakfast and went to a nearby bar to have a tapa and a caƱa (for those not familiar with Spain, that meant a small piece of potato omelette with bread and a short glass of beer, 20cl usually).

The hour passed and I went to get my test results (remember, these tests were just a procedure prior to a surgery I was going to have at a diferent clinic with a diferent doctor). The first thing the doctor said when I entered his office, and I mean before saying "hello" or "please sit down" was:

You are too fat, have to lose weight. And quit smoking.

...I dont smoke

He looked briefly at me over his glasses and continued; I had to exercise, lose weight, eat better, stop drinking and stop smoking (obviously he didnt believe me). I was worried, of course. I asked what was the problem with my tests and he didnt awnser, he just rambled for like 5 minutes about healthy lifestyles and the dangers of alcohol and (again) smoking. I went from worried to angry and then he admited there wasnt anything in a dangerous area in my tests, but that he perceived a "trend".

I was beign lectured. He didnt really looked at my tests, he simply smelt beer in my breath because I had just had lunch and decided I was a heavy drinker. He called me fat (not overweight) because he compared my height to my weight but didnt really stop to contemplate my shoulder width or muscular development. He told me to exercise but didnt ask me if I did (and I did, and I do). He just tried to make me fit into a template, because thats easier than talking to each patient.

And the funniest thing is that he was smoking in his office and shaped like a big ball.

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Doctors with feelings?
Posted by: rocketman on Oct 17, 2007 5:13 AM   
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The main stream approach in most health oriented environments (Personal Training etc) is a "total approach". The clients job, medical history, hobbies, activities etc are all factored in to design a fitness and wellness program for the individual client. No reputable organization would ever degrade an overweight person.

As far as doctors, they see an overweight person walk in and they see health risks. Most are not about coddling their patients - and many over weight people are the way they are due to self control issues. You go to a doctor to address the medical problems resulting from excess weight, go to a fitness professional to help rid you of the weight!

You wont find many docs willing to hold your hand and say it's alright, have another pie!

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Points of Order
Posted by: NoPCZone on Oct 17, 2007 5:14 AM   
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Many, if not most, obese people are the authors of their own predicament. One cannot lose weight eating junk food watching BS on the TV.

For all of the nonsense regarding weight loss the plain and simple fact that if one consumes more calories than one needs they will gain weight. That leaves 3 options:
1- decrease intake
2- increase caloric burn
3- some combination of 1 & 2

The only other option is to remain obese. There are no magic pills, diets or shortcuts.

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» RE: Points of Order--FROM AN IDIOT? Posted by: carcinoid112
Sugar
Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Oct 17, 2007 5:27 AM   
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I'm sure I do not have a final answer to obesity, but I have an opinion, based on personal experience, about where much of the problem lies. I'll start with my own story and let that lead to my conclusions.

All of my life I have been heavier than I thought healthy. Like most Americans I have enough heavy relatives that it was easy to blame my genes. Nonetheless, I tried many diets, most of which worked briefly, but I always regained my previous weight and then some.

However, in 2002 I tried one more diet, lost 30 pounds and it has stayed off. I'm still a bit heavier than I would like, but now at 62 I'm back to what I weighed in high school.

I'm not promoting the particular diet so much as I suggesting that the large amount of sugar in the typical American diet is the cause of much of the obesity in America. The diet I went on is the South Beach diet, but I don't think the particular diet is what is so important. I do not follow the diet any more but I do follow its main rule which is to avoid sugar. Secondary to that is to reduce the amount of highly refined carbohydrates.

Seriously, the main thing I do is avoid sugars. Not that this is easy - you have to read labels at the store. Almost every product in the store has lots of sugar in it (often in the form of high fructose corn syrup), but there are some exceptions. Find those exceptions and eat them instead.

Although you will miss sugar at first, your taste buds will adapt in a few weeks and you will find much of the food on the market excessively sweet. You won't even want to eat it.

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» RE: Sugar Posted by: indradawn
» RE: Sugar Posted by: rocketman
» Amen: cut the sugar Posted by: sunspot
Sorry, but being fat is wrong
Posted by: Jasonix on Oct 17, 2007 5:40 AM   
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People come in all shape and sizes, and no one should be ridiculed because their genetic disposition doesn't match that of Hollywood actors. But that said, people don't naturally come in 400-pound sizes unless they're 6'10" and have 11-inch wrists.

Being fat is unhealthy. You not only hurt yourself, but you hurt your family when you die young and when you become crippled and require your loved ones to care for you. You hurt society when our medical resources are absorbed by your care. You place a burden on public transportation, movie theaters, taxi cabs, and just about every single public accommodation. The rest of us have a very real interest in encouraging you to be healthy. Once upon a time, churches preached this as a moral truth - gluttony was a deadly sin.

If you have a medical issue that prevents you from losing weight, you have my profound sympathy. If you are addicted to food, I recognize that you have a serious problem that will require a long, hard struggle. But that struggle is worth it.

Please, if any overweight people are reading this article, don't fall for the "fat's rights" nonsense. It's not like you're black, the wrong gender, or even gay. You have a medical problem. Get help - for the sake of your family as much as yourself.

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» Hmmmm.... Posted by: kepstein7777
» RE: In context, all is clear Posted by: Jasonix
» There you go again! Posted by: hagwind
» RE: In context, all is clear Posted by: JERSEYDAN
» RE: Sorry, but being fat is wrong Posted by: carcinoid112
People should be fat phobic
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Oct 17, 2007 6:31 AM   
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In Atlanta there are, what, 3 million people? That basically means the city is supporting about.. oh 50 million pounds of excess body fat. At least... Now tell me that's not disgusting? And people should be disgusted, because if you'll let that happen to yourself, then it really shows a deep disconnect with reality. And that is dangerous for me. You may think its your body your temple, nobody's business but your own, bla bla bla. But it's also a symbolic representation gross irresponsibility. It's like walking around wearing a sign that says "I dont care about my own health, so WTF makes u think I give a damn about yours?!" Such attitudes are infectious and highly destructive. Especially to kids. Kids now are growing up thinking its totally normal... and we know how impressionable they are. If you're walking around "carrying that sign" then I don't see how it is any different from a sign that says "Bush/Cheney 2000". It is the same thing: a poor personal choice that affects us all. If you have no love for Bush supporters I dont see how you could tolerate obesity. It's the same thing... the same threat level.

In Atlanta, Lake Lanier is at dangerously low levels. I am assuming that with the right amount of rationing they wont reach the point where people start dying. But you just never know... because people can be so damn dumb. If people cant even care about their own bodies, what guarantee is there that people will do anything to stop even an imminent disaster or crisis? There is none. On a primal level, I think that's why people hate fat. Think about it this way. Let's say something were to happen where you were forced to run a fairly long distance. Take an approaching tornado for example. Or if you're a Fox News viewer, take an Iranian guerilla terrorist incident as an example. ;) Or even just someone going postal. God knows that happens enough times to consider the possibility you might be involved in something like that sooner or later.

In any of those situations, if someone close to you is carrying around a lot of dead weight, then there's the chance that they wont make it very far and are likely to be sucked up, or mowed down by gun fire or whatever. Who would want to risk their life helping someone who is carrying around an extra 40 lb backpack in a crisis situation? That would be stupid. It's like when people are evacuating a burning building and there's that one stupid idiot who is trying to grab all his material possessions and he ends up being swallowed by the flames. To someone like that, I'd be saying "get rid of that stupid crap you're carrying, what kind of fool are you?" But of course when it is body fat you cant do that. And people need to start thinking about that because we've been so lazy and have made so many irresponsible economic choices that there is no guarantee there will be ample food supplies 5 years from now. The lardasses will, ironically, be the first ones to starve to death.

We may wake up and find ourselves in a world where there is not enough of the basic necessities of life. It could be anything from a power outtage to an oil crisis. In such a scenario, the fat people will not be treated too well. When there's 1000 people and only enough food to feed one hundred, you can bet there will be some injustices. So you have a couple very simple choices. Either say "C'est La Vie, that will never happen in my lifetime"... or get healthy. Or at least look healthy anyway. But if c'est la vie is your attitude, then dont expect to be treated very well if "what will be will be" ends up becoming the reality!

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» RE: People should be fat phobic Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: People should be fat phobic Posted by: Iconoclast421
Obesity and smoking
Posted by: dwatkins9 on Oct 17, 2007 6:50 AM   
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If we can use coercion and humiliation to make people stop smoking, why can't we use them to make people lose weight? We've got all the smokers huddled outside in the cold like pariahs, shamefacedly indulging in their vice, scorned by the virtuous. Fewer and fewer people smoke, and those who still do are harshly judged.

Why won't similar tactics work with the obese?

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Not sure I buy the class bit
Posted by: lepidopteryx on Oct 17, 2007 7:31 AM   
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While more nutritious food does tend to cost more than less nutritious food, that's not a reason to throw up your hands, buy crappy food because it's cheap, and call a bag of potato chips a serving of vegetables.
We have a three-person household (actually four at the moment because a friend of my daughter's is living with us temporarily), and a combined household income of under 25K. With that, we pay rent, insurance and maintenance on 12-year-old cars with combined mileage over 400K, utilities, my daughter's school expenses (public school, not private - but even public school isn't free, especially for graduating seniors), and groceries. We're not destitute, but we're definitely below middle class, living paycheck to paycheck. I manage to feed my family healthy food without spending a fortune. I read labels - if it contains HFCS, it generally doesn't go in my cart. Sodas and junk food are rare indulgences at our house, not staples. And I wouldn't eat anything with Nutrasweet, Splenda, or any other artificial sweetener if you put a gun to my head. In fact, I very seldom sweeten anything I eat or drink. On the rare occasions that I use sweetener, it's either raw sugar or honey.
I buy fresh vegetables as much as possible, and I find that many last up to two weeks in my fridge. It depends on the vegetable - some have longer shelf lives than others. If I can't get fresh, I buy frozen. Frozen vegetables tend to have less additives than canned. And if I buy canned, I check the labels to make sure there's no sugar added.
If I can find whole-grain sandwich bread without HFCS on the day-old rack, I'll buy it. Otherwise, it stays on the shelf as well. It's not a necessity.
Another way I cut our grocery bill is by limiting the amount of meat I buy. Meat is the most expensive item in the supermarket, and people tend to eat WAY more of it than is good for them. You don't need meat at every meal. You don't even need meat every day. Meat should not be the centerpiece of the meal. A pound of ground beef should last more than one meal. For example, last night I browned a pound of lean ground beef (yes, lean costs a little more, but regular hamburger is 30% fat, so you actually get MORE meat from a pound of lean than from a pound of regular and you don't have to worry about draining off the grease). I threw in a couple of onions, a couple of cloves of garlic, a couple of tomatoes, and a few herbs and spices, and let all that simmer together until the onions were soft and clear. I cooked 2 cups of rice, and steamed a head and a half of broccoli. When the rice was done, I stirred the meat mixture into it. All four of us ate, and there was enough left over for tonight's dinner as well. Total cost to feed four people a nutritious dinner for two nights - about $6. That averages out to less than a dollar per meal. And none of the added sugar, MSG, artificial flavors, food dyes, etc. that you find in garbage like Hamburger Helper.
We eat meat about three times a week, and the rest of the time, we get our protein from other sources - beans, nuts, and dairy.
I used to live in a neighborhood where walking was not a safe option, and a gym membership was out of the question. I put on some lively music and skipped rope and did situps and calisthenics in my living room.

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» RE: Not sure I buy the class bit Posted by: PhantomOfLiberty
» Oh, let's not get smug. Posted by: jparsons
» RE: Oh, let's not get smug. Posted by: lepidopteryx
Fat and fatphobia are (still) political issues
Posted by: hagwind on Oct 17, 2007 8:12 AM   
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My friend's experience is not an anomaly. In fact, it is representative of a still unchanged attitude among too many medical doctors and nutritionists that fat people are problems to be solved; if they can just come up with the perfect equation, they figure, BMIs can be lowered and the supposed obesity epidemic eradicated.

The author is so right that her friend's experience is not an anomaly. It's not new either. Starting in the late 1970s, enough of my friends and acquaintances had similar experiences that I decided I wasn't going to a doctor unless I was really sick.

There's a broader context to this, however. At the time, quite a few of my friends were lesbian or gay. When they went to doctors, and especially when they went to psychotherapists of any kind, it was often an uphill battle to persuade the practitioner that being lesbian/gay was not the source of whatever problem they were having. Indeed, homophobia, lesbophobia, and/or sexism often had something to do with the problem, but the practitioners of the time tended to see the problem as strictly an individual thing.

Plenty of women, including heterosexual women, have encountered the same kind of reductionism: whatever problem we've got is related to sexual activity or lack of (hetero)sexual activity or lack of a marriage license. It's goddamn laziness on the practitioner's part. Let's have more studies about how many health problems are caused or exacerbated by goddamn practitioner laziness -- which is in turn exacerbated by this country's goddamn feeble excuse for a health-care system.

I am so glad to see this article on AlterNet. One quibble, though: it contributes to the conflation that I referred to in an upstream post by failing to distinguish between "overweight" and "fat" and "obese." If you want to talk about the health risks of being "overweight," you better talk about how overweight, and then you better correct for other factors, like nutrition, physical activity, and mental health. I believe that "overweight" by itself is taking the rap for these and other factors, and that many of the admonitions that seem to be about health are really about morality or aesthetics.

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» Fatphobes are missing out Posted by: BlueTigress
I have watched fast food, supermarkets and cars (plus stress) cause obesity in the UK
Posted by: Suzon on Oct 17, 2007 8:14 AM   
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When I first came to the UK in 1976, there were *no* obese people to be seen. None. Today obesity was identifed on the BBC News as the no. 1 health problem.

1976: no high fat fast foods
2007: McDonald's, Pizza Hut, Kentucky Fried Chicken, etc.
1976: most people in urban and many in rural areas used public transport or walked to local shops for groceries
2007: people drive in their cars to supermarkets and take away a huge haul, something much easier with a car

Yes, no one forces us to buy what we buy and eat what we eat, but given our stressed and insecure lives it's not surprising that we "comfort" eat.

There is a great deal of money being made out of human misery.

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Another cause of obesity...
Posted by: Ms. DuFontagne on Oct 17, 2007 9:10 AM   
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In my case, I swear it was pharmacological. When I was in my early 30's I got Norplant. Within a matter of months I bloated from a size 6 (I'm short) to a size 12. I didn't even give it a year before I had the Norplant removed. I put on a few more pounds before having it removed and finally stopped at a size 14. At this point I'd be thrilled to get back down to a size 12, but I have not been able to shed that excess weight at all, even 15 years later. I eat a very healthy, very low calorie and low fat diet and I walk to work and home every day. I think it just messed up my metabolism. We have so damned many pharmacological solutions to every perceived problem and who knows what they're all doing to our bodies.

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» RE: Another cause of obesity... Posted by: angryyoungwoman
At least the doctor didn't advise surgery
Posted by: 2dogarage on Oct 17, 2007 9:16 AM   
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Acid reflux is another name for GERD or gastro-esophagal reflux disorder which in many cases is caused by excess stomach fat enervating the esophagal sphincter muscle causing it to fail to do it's job properly. The only real cure is to reduce the fat but many doctors are only too happy to prescribe drugs that the person will take for the rest of their lives, or if that fails, surgery. Fat people are a little too sensitive to supposed prejudice against their condition. When it is quality-of-life-threatening they would do well to move away from the table, take a walk, and get serious about eating real food without all the HCFS, MSG, etc. that are a staple of restaurant and processed food.

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The Medical Community Has A Responsibility, Too
Posted by: ritadona69 on Oct 17, 2007 9:31 AM   
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My father is obese and got blood clots. My sister is obese and got diabetes. Neither one of their doctors referred them to a registered dietician or nutritionist. Both doctors put them on medication and basically said that this was the only way to make them better.

The health care profession, from what I can tell, by and large is not interested in preventive medicine. They see a problem, they prescribe a pill. I know sometimes that this is to get the condition under control, but after that? When the underlying issues for disease are not addressed, the condition resurfaces or other conditions manifest themselves.

Most doctors don't know about nutrition. They are taught to diagnose based on symptoms, then prescribe medicine--or surgery. Physicians need to get on board with helping people understand how to keep themselves healthy, otherwise they shouldn't call it "health care" but "disease care" or "medical services"--because that's what they're really providing.

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Sick of this attitude
Posted by: Ambrose Pare on Oct 17, 2007 9:47 AM   
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This attitude that everyone is a victim makes me sick.

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» RE: Sick of this attitude Posted by: ankhet
Obesity is a...
Posted by: vangogh69 on Oct 17, 2007 10:17 AM   
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Personal failing/problem and a societal problem. People make autonomous decisions to consume the products they do, including fast food, and in this context people are choosing to be fat. When you see (the majority) people around you who are also obese, you're less likely to think there's something wrong with you. It's easier to sit in front of the tv and eat the ice cream than go for a walk outdoors...that is, if where you live has sidewalks.

Obesity is part of a bigger societal problem of overconsumption of toxic materials (from plastics to McDonald's burgers) brought about by an encouraged degradation of the mind, body, and spirit. Society encourages us not to think about the connection between our lack of public spaces, expanding wastelines, junk entertainment, war, crumbling infrastructure, and why sugar is put in bread. If we're serious about tackling this obesity problem, we mustn't view it in a vacuum.

My 2 cents.

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» RE: Obesity is a... Posted by: phatkhat
» RE: Obesity is a... Posted by: vangogh69
» RE: Obesity is a... Posted by: carcinoid112
To be crude...
Posted by: TheNamelessCity on Oct 17, 2007 11:07 AM   
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...one can truthfully say to the pretty skinny people who are in fashion that they look the way they look because DADDY JUICED MOMMY WHEN HE SCREWED HER!! Or else when mommy got inseminated. Sure, many are obese or overweight due to their poor eating and sedentary living, but most of those skinny no-fat prettyboys and girls we see on TV or elsewhere look the way they look because their metabolism is fast and they have toothpicks for bones, naturally low body fat and firm musculature. Just because they "won the gene pool" does not give them the right to act like assholes.

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» RE: To be crude... Posted by: JERSEYDAN
» Gene Pool Winners Posted by: BlueTigress
The Right to Be who you are!
Posted by: militaryhater on Oct 17, 2007 11:31 AM   
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If insurance companies think they can attack obese people by charging extra high co-pays and premiums because of their weight, we SHALL see a lawsuit so BIG that it will head to the Supreme Court. YES! health maintenance companies are pushing to do this with their plans. Penalize people for being obese...like skinny healthy people shouldn't have to pay for obese. Charge higher premiums and co-pays if their BMI isn't under a certain number. Enforce doctors to disclose PHI on patients so they can get more money out of the people they 'claim to care about'. We are moving in a 'SICKO' direction because of these so called 'NON-Profit' HMOs out to pad their banks and keep all the state tax money they are funded.

Look at the SCHIP bill also supported by non-profit HMOs. Smokers don't have any legal protection so they constantly under attack and a dollar a pack rate will help pay for this! They have no rights under the constitution so lets go after them! Why not make Tobacco illlegal instead of penalizing the people that are addicted? Because corporations control the country.

Obese people do have some protection and it is called a 'Disability discrimination'. It will be interesting to see how far these HMOs and others in the insurance industry can force through penalities against overweight people..even to the point of refusing coverage...we shall see. I say SEE YOU IN COURT!

People have a right to their bodies and I grow sick and tired of the rich corporate America telling us what to do with ourselves and our existance on the planet.

Start looking at added food supplements like 'corn syrup' which is in everything!!! That is FATTENING! Big money for the corn syrup tycoons! Obesity is a Captialistic society issue...Big Brother is not on the side of little people on this one but on rich corporate America using life threatening additives to the food. What happened to just using sugar...good old sugar cane..now it is corn all the way even for Ethanol. Wake up and fight for better managed food offerings at the store! Fight for your rights and don't let government and special interest groups take your rights away. Wake up AMERICA!! Fight Back!

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» Obesity isn't a disability Posted by: brunowe
» RE: Obesity isn't a disability Posted by: angryyoungwoman
» Doubt it..... Posted by: Babushka
Brave Woman Courtney Martin
Posted by: Gravitas on Oct 17, 2007 11:47 AM   
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This article was EXCELLENT! Among the best I have read here at Alternet. She is an intellectual pioneer going up an entrenched medical paradigm, and a humanitarian in a sea of bigots.

Sadly, I don't predict the stigma of obesity will diminish because it is too convenient a tool for the upper class. It is profitable as all heck, and diets are a recession proof industry. So as the middle class has even less money available for consumption with oil going up, and the mortgage crisis, they will put even MORE pressure on the public to diet. It is also convenient scapegoat for some other causes of disease, such as stress, overwork, and pollution. It is no accident doctors lecture about weight routinely even if it has nothing to do with a patients health problems. It shifts the power dynamics from what the doctor does not know to what a "bad" person the patient is. Manipulation through guilt!

On the other hand, the stigma could stop if sheeple got off their duffs and did some research for themselves instead of swalling what the media feeds them. Why do you think they have to repeat the threat of obesity over and over? Because repetition is the best way to get people to believe a lie. The truth doesn't need that much propaganda. We have stigma because fat people cooperate with their stigmatizers.

I have darned near given up trying to change minds and have just started enjoying myself. I say if you don't like my derriere kiss my cellulite! And I have a tall handsome firefighter that is excellent at that. Oh wait! Not supposed to happen to fat women, let alone OLD fat women! HaHaHaHa!!!!

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."
Eleanor Roosevelt

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assulting our bodies with crap
Posted by: unity1 on Oct 17, 2007 12:08 PM   
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The medical profession and the nutritional profession are ignorant and NOT doing their jobs - with all the crap in our foods, a lot of peoples bodies are breaking down under pressure and are unable to break down carbs into energy - rather the body stores it as fat and no matter what diet you go on - little weight is lost - no matter what exercise you do little weight is lost and energy levels drop - this has a lot to do with all the toxins in our food

most often this creates a breakdown in thyroid function many with low thyroid and or sluggish livers, which cannot handle so much toxins bloat and balloon up - many women expereince this especially after menopause because of the change in hormons

Most Doctors are quaks despite their degrees, they have little understanding of how a holistic body functions - people need to start replacing their doctors with a real health care professional who is versed in holistic health knowledge - the health care system (sic) should be rightly re named the sickness industry because doctors simply manage illness they do not - most of them - create health

another thing - our bodies where never designed to be able to handle synthetic anything whether this is food or so called 'medicine'

having said all this however, there are people who comfort eat, or simply plain over eat, there are always psychological reasons either obvious or buried that underpin all this

most reasons for being obese is because the body cannot handle the onslaught of carbs in our diets, nor can it handle wheat which is in just about everything - wheat and gluten are fat forming substances and they interfere with a well functioning body - which is why the atkin diet worked it was protein focused full of fat, but no wheat and no carbs

shows you how much the medical profession and their counterparts the nutritionists know - I know all this because of my own problems with putting on the weight and not being able to take it off....until just recently

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