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Health & Wellness

Friends Don't Make You Fat

By Viji Sundaram, New America Media. Posted August 6, 2007.


An expert on childrens' health attacks a recent study in the New England Journal of Medicine which suggests that obesity is socially contagious.
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A recent study published in The New England Journal of Medicine suggests that it's not what you know but who you know that makes you obese; if your friend becomes obese, you have a nearly 60 percent higher chance of gaining weight. In other words, the study suggested that obesity is socially contagious. When an article about this study was published in The New York Times, pediatrician Dr. Neil Izenberg, editor-in-chief and founder of KidsHealth.org, wrote a letter to the editor condemning the study. He spoke with New America Media's health editor Viji Sundaram.

Viji Sunderam: In school, kids are often teased and bullied simply for being fat. Do you think this new study could further cause students to want to disassociate themselves from overweight kids?

Dr. Izenberg: Kids, particularly as they approach the tween and teen years, can be very body conscious as they compare themselves to their friends and to the idealized images in the media. For some girls, an overemphasis on perfection and being thin leads to the unhealthy eating disorders of anorexia and bulimia - though why this happens with some young women and not others is not fully understood.

For those kids who are already hypersensitive to issues concerning their weight, the idea that they might be better off avoiding overweight friends could lead to a lot of hurt feelings. We have to remember, though, that the increasing prevalence of obesity among children is a very worrisome trend with some very serious health implications.

Sunderam: Some U.S. schools have policies that encourage thinness. For instance, one California school weighs children during gym class and tells those who are overweight to shape up. Some others write to parents telling them they should do something to get their kids to lose weight. What do you think?

Dr. Izenberg: Publicly embarrassing kids who are overweight is unforgivable. It's understandable that schools want their students to be healthy - and want to do something about the increasing amount of obesity they're seeing. Many parents, however, have told us at KidsHealth.org that they have very mixed feelings about receiving notes from schools that their children are overweight or obese. They don't feel the school has any business telling them what they feel is a matter between them, their child, and their doctor.

We know, though, that many parents with overweight children tend to see their child's weight as more "normal" than it actually is. And that's the problem. Parents need to talk with their doctor or nurse about what a healthy weight range for their child should be - and then deal with it rather than ignore the issue.

Sunderam: In your letter in The New York Times, you cite studies that have shown how average-weight kids who associate with overweight kids lose their status in the eyes of their peers. Could you explain?

Dr. Izenberg: Some kids can be thoughtless about the feelings of others. Not only do obese and overweight kids get called names, picked on, and excluded, but studies have shown that even children who are not overweight themselves but have overweight friends lose "status" in the eyes of some of their peers.

Some of that, no doubt, is imitating how they see other kids, adults, and media react to the overweight.

Sunderam: Children in less affluent neighborhoods have less access to fresh produce. Many of these children are obese -- most likely from eating the readily available food that is full of empty calories.

Dr. Izenberg: Less expensive foods tend to be calorie-rich, full of simple carbohydrates and fat. And they are often easier to store at home. For some families, being overweight is more acceptable (and even considered cute or desirable), and parents who have grown up with poor eating habits themselves may feel less motivated to search out fresh fruits and vegetables and get their kids used to eating them. It's a complex, vicious cycle, but one that can have dramatic impact on the health and life expectancy of their children.

Parents, here as in the rest of life, need to set good personal examples: eating fresh fruit and vegetables, limiting fat and carbohydrates, not overeating, and being active. Kids pay close attention and imitate their parents and their friends.

Sunderam: What do you feel will be the negative impact of this research on children?

Dr. Izenberg: The positive impact of this research might be that more people will see eating and activity patterns as being strongly influenced by friends and family. It's a good thing to pay more attention to how you make your choices about what you consume and how active you are. It could be negative though, if you limit your friends based on how they look. If you do that, you'll miss a lot of the richness of life.

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Viji Sundaram is New America Media's health editor.

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Former Fatty Weighs In
Posted by: Mawkin on Aug 6, 2007 3:48 AM   
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I was an obese kid, teen and twenty-something. Eighty pounds lighter (1/3 my top body weight), and years of effort later, I'm merely average. Having now spent years on both sides of the scale gives needed perspective to this issue.

The study? Well duh, of course if your friend becomes obese you're more likely to gain as well. You can probably pick out a friend that had a certain saying that you picked up after you got to know them. I'll bet you even ate with that person often. They're both habits and friends tend to imitate each other's habits unconsciously. Been out for football and wings with the boys recently? Bet you didn't have a salad. Bet if you tried, the guys would probably razz you about eating it in lieu of wings. Met the gals for Starbuck's the other day? Did you drink unsweetened, black or splurge on the 400 cal. latté? I thought so. If you do this as an adult, how much worse was it before you had that strong sense of self and accumulated mass of habit that made you an adult?

Ignoring the off-topic drift in this interview (anorexia and bulemia have NOTHING to do with obesity), notice how Dr. Izenberg hedges his statements. In his Times letter, found here, he makes no remarks about positive aspects, stating "...such a suggestion [obesity being contagious], even if light-hearted, will cause more problems than it solves." Here, he goes almost into a retraction. He just doesn't go far enough.

California schools are telling kids to lose weight, great. They're sending letters to parents, great. Are they humiliating them? Is it "unforgivable?" Let's not be silly. At worst, they're guilding the lily. When you're 10 and your nickname is "Asia" because it's the largest landmass (yeah, that was me), you know you're fat. When you're a fat kid, you're humiliated every single day by some wit (they always think they've got a new one, they're wrong), even if you're popular too.

In his letter, Dr. Izenberg seems to be worried that by making it "official," social ostracism will get worse. More likely, it won't matter. It's certain kids won't be reading studies in the New England Journal of Medicine. Might parents start to tell their kids to stay away from Johnny "Fatso" Smith? Maybe. Most of their kids don't like "Fatso" anyway. Even if they do like him, kids obey their parents so well these days.

What about poor Johnny? Beyond his feelings, will he be hurt by having to suffer a little more? If we can keep him from being suicidal, he'll pull through. We're sure he needs to lose those pounds. Once he grows up, he's more likely to get heart disease, diabetes, be depressed more often and worse, and even be less likely to be hired for a given job.

Psych 101, people are motivated in two ways; pleasure-seeking and pain-receding. Nearly always, pain-receding is the stronger motivation. Since I was Johnny, I know he's gonna need all the motivation he can get. A little more pain is going to make him far more able to get him in shape. If he's not miserable, totally desperate enough to make the tough decisions he'll need to make every day until he forms the new habit, odds are he'll end up another yo-yo dieter, dreaming of the fat pill that's perpetually just around the corner. This is particularily true because he has no idea what a world change it is to be skinny; people smile at you more often, you have more energy any day and every day, you're treated better by everyone everywhere, the simple heartrending joy when you realize you can't remember the last time you were the target of a fat joke. Those pleasures aren't real to him, he's never seen them. He's gonna need that pain, it's all the motivation he has.

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» RE: Former Fatty Weighs In Posted by: ericksonml@sbcglobal.net
» If Stigma Worked Posted by: Gravitas
» Gravitas, you rock! Posted by: hagwind
» Wrong, wrong, wrong Posted by: FDPN
Former Fatty Weighs In
Posted by: Mawkin on Aug 6, 2007 3:51 AM   
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The truly worst part of this discourse is that it ignores the most positive, truly useful information to be gleaned from this study. The inverse is also true, should one of your friends start to get skinnier, you're a little more likely to lose your spare tire, just make sure you learn their new good habits. Make it a conscious learning though, it's too imprortant to hope you learn automatically. Weight loss like weight gain is easier when it's a group activity. If you have to find skinny friends to do it, just make sure you join the activities that got/keep them that way.

Finally, you know Johnny, we all do. If he's ready to make those changes, help him. Workout with him. Challenge him. If he slips one night and has the huge dessert, ignore it. If he's binging the week away, call him on it! Give him $%it. Don't call him names, he's got the pain he needs. Remind him how important this is to him.

Hell, tell him about me and that I'm 2/3 the man I used to be. He needs to know it can be done.

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» Meh, don't be so proud Posted by: FDPN
This Article in Sum:
Posted by: pdxstudent on Aug 6, 2007 4:50 AM   
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"It could be negative though, if you limit your friends based on how they look. If you do that, you'll miss a lot of the richness of life."

Or, in otherwords, it could be negative if people act like idiots.

What's more is that what this doctor is not at all concerned with the social condition(s) that make this bigotry possible, but rather the surface effect of hurt feelings. Way to go for another round of bullshit from the medical gaze.

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brer
Posted by: brer on Aug 6, 2007 5:00 AM   
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That's what I like about this site. The readers are often smarter than the "columnists."

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It's not all about diet.
Posted by: tommy_slothrop on Aug 6, 2007 6:12 AM   
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Everybody seems to assume that obesity is all about diet. The increase in the numbers of obese people seems to correlate pretty well with the increase of number of miles driven per capita.

When I've travelled in 3rd-world countries, it was easy to spot the people who could afford to buy cars. They were almost always overweight. Unless they were rich. Then they didn't have to work so they had plenty of time to exercise.

When I was a kid, at least when we watched TV we had to get up and walk across the room to change the channel or adjust the volume. It's hard to imagine a better way to get fat and ruin your cardiovascular system than sitting around for hours watching TV without doing anything more strenuous than pushing buttons on the remote.

My diet is terrible but I walk or bike everywhere I go. It's cheap and easy. I do almost nothing for exercise. But I'm not obese.

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» RE: It's not all about diet. Posted by: lynned2002
» RE: It's not all about diet. Posted by: tommy_slothrop
Huh?
Posted by: heecheeboy on Aug 6, 2007 8:22 AM   
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Friends Don't Make You Fat

Where in this article is the claim of the study refuted?

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» RE: Huh? Posted by: gree1920
Don't Punt Plump Pals Too Promptly
Posted by: Gravitas on Aug 6, 2007 2:32 PM   
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I have a background in sociology and did my master's project on weight stigma. I did my own critique of this study, but it is too long. Here is a link if anyone is interested:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/28/84516/3178

Important things to realize about this study: (The boring version, the link is much more tongue and cheek)

It used data from a study designed for an entirely different purpose. For friends, it only looked at people the study participants gave as a backup contact in case researchers lost touch with them. No attempt was made to look at how many friends a person had, who they were closest to, how much time they spent with each person etc.

The study is not claiming eating habits of a person's friends influence weight. In fact, it found friends hundreds of miles away had the same effect as friends nearby. (And obesity is not now, and never will be exclusively about diet and exercise!)

The study was based largely on computer models. They can prove anything one wants. They made assumptions about natural weight gain that comes with aging and genetics in their complex statistical formulas.

One of the researchers has ties to the Robert Woods Johnson Foundation, which as ties to pharmaceutical giant Johnson and Johnson.

p.s. Putting weights on childrens report cards IS emotionally barbaric and will cause extreme psychological damage. It tells the child that their weight eclipses every other aspect of themselves. A plump child who is experiencing social stigma may get satisfaction from academic success. With weights on report cards that is taken away from them. Report cards will be something to fear! We already tell girls they can't be healthy and won't be loved unless they are thin! Now we are saying it really doesn't matter if you are smart, you are still a failure. It is a fine solution for simpletons like Mike Huckabee, but has no place in a civilized society.

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Totally misleading title...
Posted by: superdan on Aug 6, 2007 6:33 PM   
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.. the conclusions made in the study are not refuted anywhere in the article.

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Sorry, obese people should be shown the error of their ways..
Posted by: superdan on Aug 6, 2007 6:42 PM   
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.. and yes, it is for their own good. Lame attempts to equate fat-ism with homophobia don't cut it with me. There are public health and medical consequences to having an obese population and who pays the medical bills? Mostly the person concerned, which they often cannot afford, and then the rest of society (at least outside America).
What's wrong with preaching about fruit and vegetables and exercise? Nobody seems to have a problem with blanket ads preaching the virtues of McD's and twinkies! With 2/3 of the population overweight, isn't it time to think about trying something different? Unlike trying to "convert" gays, losing weight does have real, positive effects for individuals and society.

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Hmm, my fat friends...
Posted by: FDPN on Aug 6, 2007 10:18 PM   
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...all work in the IT industry and make twice as much money as the average person their age. 'Far as I can tell, none of them do drugs, none of them have a criminal record, and they are basically the kind of people that keep America running.

As for the "skinny" people I see? They work shit jobs for shit wages, do drugs, end up on cops the TV show, and are generally the scum of American society. Crack heads, immigrants from El Salvador, Mexican day laborers, trailer trash, etc.

I think we need to do something about the blight of crime committed by thin people in America.

After all, if body type is connected to self-esteem then perhaps that's the reason these people go down the path of: sex/drugs/crime.

I think we need to look at the connection between thinness and:
poor academic performance
criminal record
drug use
STD prevalence (how many fat people have AIDS?)
low income
etc.

Just a thought.

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» RE: Hmm, my fat friends... Posted by: Sissi_phus
» RE: Hmm, my fat friends... Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: Hmm, my fat friends... Posted by: Iconoclast421
So do we agree something needs to be done?
Posted by: Sissi_phus on Aug 7, 2007 8:26 AM   
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Cause if we do then we could call in the top ad execs from Maccas and Coke to whip up a new campaign.

They know the value of friends and status. Just check out the ads they put out every summer. Plenty of gorgeous, young fit bods prancing around enjoying themselves, consuming the relevant product and prospering socially because of it.

This sort of psychology has been working for decades, just for the wrong cause. It has motivated millions, if not billions of people around the world to do things they KNOW are no good for them.

But would we do the same to promote an apple and public transport? No way!!

We'd rather squabble for another few years about what "fat" is, and what hurts an obese person more - being fat or other people noticing?

Face up to it. If I love nothing better than to ride my bike and go body surfing then why would I chose a friend who loves nothing better than to sit in a darkened room playing playstation and eating deep fried, battered coca cola?? It's not because I'm mean.

Instead of fretting the imagined implications of this research we need to figure out how to best use it for the benefit of our children.

I laugh when I imagine a room of McAd executives debating their next campaign in the same way. Can you imagine what they'd come up with? Dear children. Don't take this the wrong way cause we'll still love you if you eat Krusty Burgers, but please consider our product. After all, your parents would approve

Of course this isn't the only thing that needs to be done. We also have to look at why Johnny prefers to sit in that darkened room getting "unfit" in the first place. But that's a whole other discussion topic.

Enjoy

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Umm, being physically inactive makes you fat.
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Aug 7, 2007 10:02 AM   
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Is there such a thing as the truth anymore?

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» No Posted by: FDPN
FAMILIES make you fat!
Posted by: Sherry M. on Aug 7, 2007 5:10 PM   
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And not just genetically. To lose weight in a family of obese people is sometimes taken as rebellion or criticism -- and losing weight (like quitting alcohol or drugs or tv or any other addiction a family subscribes to) might set a person up for rejection. This is even more threatening if the family is already experiencing rejection from society at large (because the members are poor, or not white, or fat). I think that is why some people regain lost weight -- otherwise, they lose membership in their families. Solutions? Education, education, education. And not just about nutrition and health, but about optimal family functioning -- realistic developmental expectations, respectful and loving communication -- even where there is poverty, these are possible -- with education. We can't really control marketing and advertising without some censorship --(I think it's morally wrong but it's legal to market junk food to children) - but advertising won't work in destructive ways when people can think critically. I'm speaking from personal and professional experience. I've maintained a healthy lean weight for over 40 years -- thanks to not needing the approval of my family anymore, and to a good diet and exercise.

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Friendship Fills a Heart, Mind, Body, and Soul
Posted by: Betsy L. Angert on Aug 9, 2007 11:54 AM   
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Dear Viji Sundaram . . .

This interview was a very frustrating read. The dear Doctor Izenberg seems to contradict his own statements. Izenberg discounts the report. Then he openly states, parents and their perceptions influence the eating habits of their children. I believe that is what the study presented in The New England Journal of Medicine concluded. Having read the report and written on the survey, I feel certain it is.
Obesity: Friendship Fills a Heart, Mind, Body, and Soul.

Dr. Izenberg also presumes to understand as many "experts" do, "an overemphasis on perfection and being thin leads to the unhealthy eating disorders of anorexia and bulimia." Thankfully, although again contrary to his supposed knowledge of the situation, Izenberg, then declares, "[W]hy this happens with some young women and not others is not fully understood." That latter statement is accurate. Might I also remind the doctor men are affected by this malady.

I was anorexia and bulimic for well over two decades. Those that dabbled in these "disorders," tell me I did these with greater depth and detail than most. I do not doubt this, for I have a scientific curious mind.

I pen much on the subject of anorexia and bulimia. I do so with a desire to document what I understand and lived for oh, so very long. The affliction, on the surface may seem to be an obsession with weight, or the outgrowth of a want for perfection. However, those that suffer with anorexia and bulimia, when not prejudiced by the presumed proficiency of a physician, an individual that never experienced the hardship, will tell you that body image is not the cause. Starving, bingeing, and purging are not the effects of a yearning for control or flawlessness.

I invite you and your readers to review a missive or more. Please share your comments.
Bulimia. Anorexia.

In addition, I offer a thought on how a heavier child, or adult may be stigmatized. Oh, if only empathy was more prevalent.
Overweight Children - Adults Face Widespread Stigma and Strain

Betsy L. Angert
BeThink.org

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The politics of FAT
Posted by: grangersmith on Aug 10, 2007 1:07 PM   
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Is nothing sacred????Now fat is in the political control agenda of this country, maybe we should target ugly people, you know the people who just don't fit in socially with out standards of beauty..These ugly people could be forced into plastic surgery, classes in "How to dress" wear makeup or whatever...I think they did a study on how ugly people look is a sign of potential social misfits, crazy school shooters, drug dealers, rapists, hookers, and unpatriotic behavior. Once we get the fat out of our society, and pockets for medical expense, we need to focus on the ugly...Seriously obesity has many many reasons and roots, and this is shown just by the responses of the comments...Eating disorders, I eat for comfort, didn't get the love and attention, got food as love and attention as a child...It was social, and now we have computers, cars, fear of strangers, pedophiles, latch key kids, kids who have both parents working, neglected, abused, and pampered to obesity...Parents work out their long term generational dysfunctions in their children, society does the same thing...We not only benefit from previous generations we also can completely destruct from the instructions of the past...

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