Home
Archive
Columnists
Video
Blogs
Discuss
About
Search
Donate
Advertise
Advertisement
Advertisement
Advertisement
Advertisement
Register to Vote: Rock the Vote, powered by Working Assets Wireless
  • AlterNetYour turn

Support AlterNet
Do you value the information you're getting from AlterNet? Please show your support with a tax-deductible donation.


Feedback
Tell us how we're doing.

Health & Wellness

The Dark Side of Soy

By Mary Vance, Terrain. Posted July 5, 2007.


Is a staple of healthy diets in America making us sick?
Advertisement

This article from Terrain magazine was first reprinted by the Utne Reader in its July/August 2007 issue -- thanks to Utne for resurfacing it.

As someone who is conscious of her health, I spent 13 years cultivating a vegetarian diet. I took time to plan and balance meals that included products such as soy milk, soy yogurt, tofu, and Chick'n patties. I pored over labels looking for words I couldn't pronounce -- occasionally one or two would pop up. Soy protein isolate? Great! They've isolated the protein from the soybean to make it more concentrated. Hydrolyzed soy protein? I never successfully rationalized that one, but I wasn't too worried. After all, in 1999 the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved labeling I found on nearly every soy product I purchased: "Diets low in saturated fat and cholesterol that include 25 grams of soy protein a day may reduce the risk of heart disease." Soy ingredients weren't only safe -- they were beneficial.

After years of consuming various forms of soy nearly every day, I felt reasonably fit, but somewhere along the line I'd stopped menstruating. I couldn't figure out why my stomach became so upset after I ate edamame or why I was often moody and bloated. It didn't occur to me at the time to question soy, heart protector and miracle food.

When I began studying holistic health and nutrition, I kept running across risks associated with eating soy. Endocrine disruption? Check. Digestive problems? Check. I researched soy's deleterious effects on thyroid, fertility, hormones, sex drive, digestion, and even its potential to contribute to certain cancers. For every study that proved a connection between soy and reduced disease risk another cropped up to challenge the claims. What was going on?

"Studies showing the dark side of soy date back 100 years," says clinical nutritionist Kaayla Daniel, author of The Whole Soy Story (New Trends, 2005). "The 1999 FDA-approved health claim pleased big business, despite massive evidence showing risks associated with soy, and against the protest of the FDA's own top scientists. Soy is a $4 billion [U.S.] industry that's taken these health claims to the bank." Besides promoting heart health, the industry says, soy can alleviate symptoms associated with menopause, reduce the risk of certain cancers, and lower levels of LDL, the "bad" cholesterol.

Epidemiological studies have shown that Asians, particularly in Japan and China, have a lower incidence of breast and prostate cancer than people in the United States, and many of these studies credit a traditional diet that includes soy. But Asian diets include small amounts -- about nine grams a day -- of primarily fermented soy products, such as miso, natto, and tempeh, and some tofu. Fermenting soy creates health-promoting probiotics, the good bacteria our bodies need to maintain digestive and overall wellness. By contrast, in the United States, processed soy food snacks or shakes can contain over 20 grams of nonfermented soy protein in one serving.

"There is important information on the cancer-protective values of soy," says clinical nutritionist Ed Bauman, head of Bauman Clinic in Sebastopol, California, and director of Bauman College. Bauman cautions against painting the bean with a broad brush. "As with any food, it can have benefits in one system and detriments in another. [An individual who is sensitive to it] may have an adverse response to soy. And not all soy is alike," he adds, referring to processing methods and quality.

"Soy is not a food that is native to North America or Europe, and you have issues when you move food from one part of the world to another," Bauman says. "We fare better when we eat according to our ethnicity. Soy is a viable food, but we need to look at how it's used."

Once considered a small-scale poverty food, soy exploded onto the American market. Studies -- some funded by the industry -- promoted soy's ability to lower disease risk while absolving guilt associated with eating meat. "The soy industry has come a long way from when hippies were boiling up the beans," says Daniel.

These days the industry has discovered ways to use every part of the bean for profit. Soy oil has become the base for most vegetable oils; soy lecithin, the waste product left over after the soybean is processed, is used as an emulsifier; soy flour appears in baked and packaged goods; different forms of processed soy protein are added to everything from animal feed to muscle-building protein powders. "Soy protein isolate was invented for use in cardboard," Daniel says. "It hasn't actually been approved as a food ingredient."

Soy is everywhere in our food supply, as the star in cereals and health-promoting foods and hidden in processed foods. Even if you read every label and avoid cardboard boxes, you are likely to find soy in your supplements and vitamins (look out for vitamin E derived from soy oil), in foods such as canned tuna, soups, sauces, breads, meats (injected under poultry skin), and chocolate, and in pet food and body-care products. It hides in tofu dogs under aliases such as textured vegetable protein, hydrolyzed vegetable protein, and lecithin -- which is troubling, since the processing required to hydrolyze soy protein into vegetable protein produces excitotoxins such as glutamate (think MSG) and aspartate (a component of aspartame), which cause brain-cell death.


Digg!

See more stories tagged with: soy

Mary Vance is the associate editor of Terrain.

Reprinted from Terrain (Spring 2007), published by Berkeley's Ecology Center. Dedicated to fine feature writing about environmental issues, Terrain is distributed free throughout Northern California. Subscriptions: $15/yr. (3 issues) from 2530 San Pablo Ave., Berkeley, CA 94702.

Liked this story? Get top stories in your inbox each week from Health and Wellness! Sign up now »


Advertisement

 

Comments Turn comments off sitewide Give us feedback »
Comments closed.
The comments for this story have been closed. Thank you to everyone who participated.
View:
Remembering nutrition basics
Posted by: jparsons on Jul 9, 2007 12:45 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Processing any food usually makes it less healthy, and adding several portions a day of an unbalanced processed food does not lead to a balanced diet.

Having said that, the foods that processed soy replaces have a much scarier list of diseases associated - heart disease, cancer, strokes, etc. Enjoy soy!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: emembering nutrition basics Posted by: Annarisse
» Soy is an adjective, bean is a noun Posted by: Bic Pentameter
Soy Is Toxic
Posted by: bcgirl125 on Jul 9, 2007 1:16 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
see http://www.westonaprice.org/ for more detailed information. And don't forget the 2000 research by Lon White that linked even moderate soy consumption to brain shrinkage in men.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» How moderate? Posted by: ateo
» I am allergic... Posted by: Bbear41
» RE: I am allergic... Posted by: sasquuatch55
» RE: Soy Is Toxic Posted by: zenzen
» RE: Soy Is Toxic Posted by: Lady X
» RE: weston a price Posted by: hymalaia
» RE: Soy Is Toxic Posted by: Lady X
Is ANYTHING healthy?
Posted by: ateo on Jul 9, 2007 2:26 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I appreciate the information about these matters that I get on Alternet but, seriously, what's next? You're going to tell me my Quaker oatmeal is toxic? One poster told me that peanuts and peanut butter are highly poisoned with carcinogens so I'm switching to an organic peanut butter brand made from peanuts grown in the South West (drier climate, avoids the moisture where the toxin producing fungus thrives - in theory).

I actually decided to add a bit of soy in the form of soy burgers to my diet recently. I probably only eat one every 2 or 3 days. Other than soy sauce that's the only soy in my diet so I'm probably fine with that amount.

This really makes soy sound like a bad deal for men though. "Reduces brain size", "lowers testosterone levels", "reduced sex drive." Horrible.

I don't eat a varied diet because it is simply too difficult to stock that many foods in the home in small quantities.

Try to eat healthy and then they tell you peanut butter causes cancer. What's the world coming to?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Is ANYTHING healthy? Posted by: avacyn
» RE: Is ANYTHING healthy? Posted by: marzipan
» RE: Is ANYTHING healthy? Posted by: sasquuatch55
It tends to make me ill
Posted by: dustinblythe on Jul 9, 2007 4:53 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As a vegetarian I, too, began to consume more and more soy as part of what I considered a "healthy" diet. I would have oatmeal with soy milk in the morning, a soy protein bar in the afternoon and maybe a meat substitute with soy protein in the evening. After some time I began to get what felt like acid reflux symptoms, something I had never experienced before. I cut back on soy and now I only feel vaguely nauseas when I eat something with a lot of soy in it. Was it the soy? I don't know. Maybe I was eating too much of it or maybe I had, or developed, a sensitivity to it. Now I use hemp (hemp nut butter, hemp bread, etc...) for my protein and I am doing fine.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: It tends to make me ill Posted by: Lady X
» RE: It tends to make me ill Posted by: redceres
Soy a NoNo
Posted by: Candleinheart on Jul 9, 2007 5:15 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Like a few on this comment page I was a person , who for years, practiced sound nutrition. Improved so by eating more rsponsibily as a young woman, (learned about nutrition from brother-in-law who was a chiropractor) that I developed a course after years of reading and research, I taught at the Adult Ed program of a local community college. As I moved into menopause and senior years I began reading on Soy, a product I had not experienced. Began drinking soy milk. Within a month I was having massive sleep problems, weird digestive problems, intense pains in middle of night. So extreme were these sensations I called an ambulance four times in 6 months to get me to emergency room. In one session my legs went totally rigid and I had to crawl to phone! Tests all showed nothing wrong! I contacted a woman in Massachussetts I knew who was a Chinese Herbalist. Seems Soy increases Estrogen (at 65 I didn't need more estrogen) and I was experiencing reactions to the hormonal imbalance the soy produced. Stopped soy and anything that has it. Been fine ever since. Very scarry the whole scenario.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Soy a NoNo Posted by: Phenix
Natto
Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Jul 9, 2007 5:59 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Japanese often delight in having western visitors taste natto to see how they react.

Usually, the western visitor finds it quite disgusting.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Natto Posted by: maxfactor
» RE: Natto Posted by: culprit
» RE: Natto Posted by: sekitadel
FDA approved?
Posted by: Elfwyn on Jul 9, 2007 6:22 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Good article, thank you. I never cease to be amazed that people who distrust and even despise the government would take the word of the FDA about what is and is not good for them. How many recalls of and deaths from "FDA-approved" medicines, etc., does it take before everyone wakes up to the fact that the FDA is just another government agency and starts thinking for themselves?!?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: FDA approved? Posted by: Lady X
Allergic to Soy
Posted by: DrSuess on Jul 9, 2007 6:54 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The only food allergy I have is to soy- and it is a duzzy. Half of all processed food contains soy. Whenever there is a non dairy substutite- it is soy. Half of the cans of soup on the shelf, and half of the processed food contains soy. I am simply stopping my consumption of processed foods. This is easy in the summer when my garden is in full force, but harder in the winter.
Soy is the most processed and modified food that exists. We don't have Asian soy in this country - it is all hybrid or genetically modified. Because of my soy alllergy, I have become aware of how food is modified, and made artificial. This is probably a good thing- because it makes me much more aware of the food that I eat.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Allergic to Soy Posted by: vision
Is more better?
Posted by: willymack on Jul 9, 2007 7:06 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
We seem to be hung up on the thought that, if a little of this or that is good, then more is surely better. The good ingredients in soybeans, for instance, are synergised and hugely concentrated with no thought as to the possible bad side effects which may ensue. Agribusinesses pick up on the newest discoveries and act in typical fashion by producing vast amounts of chemically augmented and protected crops, then go to work at producing a NEED for their product, and ,as usual, without any thought aboud possible bad consequences. It's up to us to look at any "miracle" foodstuff with a critical eye and to use common sense (which appears to be more rare than ever) when making nutritional decisions.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Truth?
Posted by: magistre on Jul 9, 2007 7:10 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This is a symptom of the largest problem that humanity is facing, that is to say: We've never been told the truth about MOST things. Either the research thats hidden or not done at all to the real history that never gets taught. When are we going to learn to take NOTHING at face value?!?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Soy: One Factor in America's Epidemic of Thyroid Problems
Posted by: MaryShomon on Jul 9, 2007 7:00 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As a thyroid patient advocate, I hear from hundreds of people every week who are suffering from thyroid problems, and there's a common theme to some of the emails. The thyroid sufferers -- often women -- have started eating high amounts of soy -- soy powders, protein shakes, soy milk, soy shakes, soy burgers, soy smoothies, and then on top of it, soy foods like miso, tofu, edamame, and so on.

In the typical American tradition, they believe that if a little soy is good, well, huge amounts must be that much better.

And then they develop a thyroid condition. Or their thyroid condition, once manageable, worsens.

It's a matter of balance, and degree. Ultimately, unless you have a soy allergy, a small amount of soy -- using fermented forms as a food condiment in small amounts like the Asians do -- is usually not a problem.

But when you go soy-crazy, like some Americans do, thinking soy will cure everything from obesity to high cholesterol to menopausal hot flashes, then you move from eating soy as a food, to medicating yourself with high-quantities of soy as a hormone-like drug.

Right now, an estimated 59 million Americans have a thyroid condition. And that number is on the rise. Some experts believe that the growing use of soy, as a filler ingredient, and that soy-crazy overconsumption (as well as a generation of soy formula babies coming to adulthood), may be a key factor helping drive this increase in thyroid conditions.

My recommendation: stay away from all the soy powders, pills, and potions...stick with fermented soy foods, in small quantities. BUT, be on the lookout for signs that you're sensitive or allergic to soy in general. AND, if you're a soy consumer and you notice any potential thyroid symptoms, reconsider your use of soy (and see your doctor for evaluation.)

(Keep in mind that the Asians also have a fair amount of iodine in their diet, and there is some evidence that iodine may help modulate some negative effects that soy may have on the thyroid. So, toss a little bit of seaweed into that miso soup! )

Mary Shomon
Thyroid-Info.com / Thyroid.About.com
Author: The Thyroid Diet, Thyroid Hormone Breakthrough., Living Well With Hypothyroidism and others...

P.S. An excellent source of information on soy is the Soy Online Service

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Ditto - I have Mary's book Posted by: catfish
» 20 % Posted by: gellero
Hmmm
Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Jul 9, 2007 7:29 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I know a woman in her fifties who has always talked about how much soy milk she drinks, regularly, as a conscious health measure. A true believer in soy over animal foods. She went through complete menopause in her thirties.

I'm suspicious of any "miracle food" (soy, broccoli, wheatgrass) that promises increased health benefits in relation to how much you consume. Oat bran is not arterial Drano, but that's how we approach health maintenance: pour a lot of it down the hatch, see how it does.

Next thing you know, it'll be pomegranate juice that will be exposed as having detriments, as it seems to be the current miracle substance on which one can purportedly, practically, subsist indefinitely and have Total Health.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Hmmm Posted by: Lady X
I want real nuance
Posted by: vision on Jul 9, 2007 7:44 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
First, I'm all for a seasonal, whole foods diet . . . who needs debate on that? And I am worried about soy - about estrogen-mimetics, about digestive-blocking "antinutrients", about potential for allergy. As such, I'd love to read a nuanced analysis.

However, when I read stuff like "glutamate . . . which cause(s) brain-cell death," I wonder if I can trust anything in the article. Glutamate is the brain's primary excitatory neurotransmitter. I wouldn't doubt that too much of it could cause neurotoxicity, but then drinking too much water can kill you via hyponatremia.

When I find lines like this in an article, I come to the conclusion that either, A) the author is pulling every string to try to prove a point, even if dishonestly, or B) the background research was spotty, and certain facts were taken way out of context.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Is whey-protein a good alternative to soy protein?
Posted by: skepticgod on Jul 9, 2007 8:10 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Hello all, i would like to know if whey protein powders are a good alternative or better than soy protein? because i bought a whey protein powder at wal-mart and i got some side effects from that whey protein powder, like water-retention, etc. and I thought soy protein was a lot better.

skepticgod

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: I switched to whey Posted by: Ripcord
HEMP vs SOY
Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 9, 2007 8:22 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
» RE: HEMP vs SOY Posted by: garry minor
The soil Soy grows in
Posted by: PeterW on Jul 9, 2007 8:28 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
People seem to forget, or don't know that soy is the favorite rotation crop to use when you grow corn. Soy is part of the huge corn industry.

The soil that industrial corn and soy grow on has been devastated. The nutrients have long since disappeared. Fertilizing only adds potassium, nitrogen and phosphorus. This does not come close to replace the nutrients in healthy soil. And guess what? If the plant doesn't get the proper nutrition, either does the person eating the plant.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: The soil Soy grows in Posted by: Jarmadi
For Those Interested in Getting Beyond The Propoganda
Posted by: Lady X on Jul 9, 2007 8:47 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Articles:

The Joy of Soy and The Disinformation Campaign
www.soytoy.com/soyvey

www.youngagain.org
Soy Isoflavones Are Very Beneficial

www.animalliberationfront.com
What About Soy? John Robbins

www.puresoy.com

The industries/corporations that have the most to lose while in competition with soy are:

The Dairy industry
The Meat industry
The Pharmaceutical Industry: Premarin (syntheic hormones
cancer causing) Thyroid medications, any thing related to
hormones that can be prescribed as drugs.
This is a well orchestratd spin campaign against soy that has been going on since the late 90's or earlier.
Bogus science is not proof of anything other than corruption within huge corporations with agendas.
Follow thte money. We are woth more to them sick than healthy.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Soy Makes You Gay
Posted by: fanny666 on Jul 9, 2007 8:50 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Soy Makes You Gay, just ask the religious right's science experts...

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Soy Makes You Gay Posted by: Xynyx
» RE: Soy Makes You Gay Posted by: tomkara
The great soy scare
Posted by: epskionline on Jul 9, 2007 9:48 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I will start off by agreeing that we should not consume too much of any one thing, but I've seen allegations about soy formula, on which I was raised. 35 years later, I'm 6'2", healthy, high IQ... I don't think soy formula in the early 1970s ruined my life.

I do think it's sensible to keep soy protein consumption down to about 9g a day, but Americans eat too much protein anyway, and they forget how much protein is in common foods, like other beans and, of course, grains.

The running theme through most of the scientific literature I've been examining over the past few years is that we should be eating predominantly plant-based foods in their most whole, most bio-available form for optimal health. We should be eating less at each meal, more often.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

blah blahblah diets blah blah blah soy
Posted by: schokoprinz on Jul 9, 2007 10:22 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
DO SOMETHING, EXERCISE, GO FOR A WALK. you know why Europeans (and im specifically referring to germans because of the time ive spent here) are so damn tall and thin, not cause their eatin soy as supplements but because they move their bodies and eat breakfast. I see 90 year old grandma's out at stores still buyin broetchen and then they bustle off on their 1960's bicycle to the next quatsch (gossip) fest. As for soy, i dont eat it. i think it tastes nasty and i dont like its consistency.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Use your common sense. It is not food, it is the culture.
Posted by: Brucewxx on Jul 9, 2007 11:25 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The key for a healthy diet is to balance the variety of food and be moderate. Too much of anything is always bad, not matter how "healthy" a food is considered or promoted. Also each individual may need different balance of food as we all build somehow differently.
I found most of the diet problem lays in our culture of "black or white" which means to search for all of extremes in order to get a QUICK fix on a complicated problem. No single food or diet can solve your health problem and everyone will die someday. Even excersize is bad if you do it too much as it will worn prematurely. Just enjoy all of the good food and be moderate about the amound you copnsume. Eat less processed food and have some excercise. Be happy and enjoy your life.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Soy is almost completely GM
Posted by: kellysgarden on Jul 9, 2007 12:50 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Almost all the soy crop of USA is GM. Even if farmers try to obtain seed that is not GM, the genetic contamination of non-GM seed is a given. Farmers have merely become employees of the Monsantos and ADMs of multinational corporations. We need to stay away from processed soy merely to send a message to those huge multinationals. They are only concerned for their own profits, not for our health.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Soy and breast cancer
Posted by: Gisele on Jul 9, 2007 12:56 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
My family has been plagued by breast cancer to an unsettling degree. My Great Grandmother and her sister, my Granny and her sister, my Mom's sister has already died of it...and Mom has fought a 9 year battle with it (losing it as it's gone to her bones now)...all had one thing in common - their breast cancers were estrogen related.

I've been to a number of specialists for work-ups and advice, and I'm currently taking part in a genetic study of breast cancer. The one thing in common with all specialists and my guru at the local health food store has been - NO soy products if estrogen related cancers are part of your family history.

Soy and Aspartame have about the same rank with me - the only thing that's really healthy about either one of them is the bank accounts of their respective corporations.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Moderation is key
Posted by: lilcheese71 on Jul 9, 2007 1:25 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
My grandfather's motto was "moderation in everything, and everything in moderation." I eat some soy, but it is not my staple.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Moderation is key Posted by: wheresarah
So we get nutritional racism now?!?!
Posted by: BazookaTooth on Jul 9, 2007 1:50 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
What *is* this nonsense about "eating according to our ethnicity"?

I'm a mix of Hungarian, Russian, Scottish, English, Irish, Timucuan (Native Floridian, a tribe that was wiped out shortly after Florida was colonized), Seminole (another Floridian tribe), and perhaps West African. Guess that means I can eat anything, except perhaps the panak paneer and samosas I was anticipating tonight.

Seriously, can't it be said that soy is just one healthy food among many and should be eaten in moderation without resorting to scare tactics? Sheesh!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Soy Is Much Healthier Than Meat And Dairy Products!
Posted by: ElaineS on Jul 9, 2007 3:00 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Compared to meat, eggs, and dairy products, which are known to cause heart disease, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, obesity, diabetes, cancer, and other health problems, soy is a very healthy food. It’s cholesterol-free and high in fiber and complex carbohydrates. Studies show that soy may help prevent osteoporosis, prostate and colon cancer, diabetes, obesity and Alzheimer’s disease. A healthy diet should include plenty of vegetables, fruits, nuts, beans, and whole grains, as well as some tasty and versatile soy foods.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

this is Cartesian reductionism at work
Posted by: DeAnander on Jul 9, 2007 3:22 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
the idea that food consists merely of chemicals -- that nutrients, minerals, vitamins and the like can be isolated as single factors and assigned to single outcomes -- dates from C19 scientific thinking -- a century devoted to taxonomical mania and the cult of the machine. everything could be understood by slicing and dicing it into discrete parts (gears and cogs) after which one could understand exactly what each individual gear and cog does, and thence unravel the meaning and function of the whole from its parts in isolation.

this led us to the idea that food could be understood by chemical analysis and that if it contained a certain quota of measurable discrete components -- protein, vitamins, minerals -- that were "the same as" another food, then the two foods were equivalent. so white flour that was artificially "enriched" with synthesised vitamins, etc. should be functionally equivalent to whole grain flour or sprouted grains, and just as good for you. we should note that a big driver for this attitude to food was the military requirement for soldier's rations; the military wanted to quantify the discrete nutrition components necessary to keep a soldier functional in the field, and prove to its own satisfaction that these requirements could be met by meals packaged for long term storage and transport. the MDR chart grew out of this wartime effort to standardise and quantify food needs.

this same attitude led us to the "soil sciences" of C19 and C20 which modelled soil as a sterile growing medium enriched with specific chemicals and minerals, each of which would benefit plant growtth in a particular, isolated, measurable way. and that led us to chemical agriculture.

what this reductionist approach ignores, in its effort to analyse by isolation, is (1) interaction -- the complex interplay of compounds of minerals, chemicals, etc., (2) nonlinear effcts -- i.e. more is not linearly better or worse than less, there are large effects from small changes and vice versa, knee functions all over the place, living systems are in fragile equilibrium and constantly adjusting and reacting, and perhaps most importantly (3) the difference between living and non-living foods, soils. etc.

the reductionist approach insists that an irradiated food is the same as (can be reduced to the same chemical analysis with our current granularity of analytical tools) the same food raw or fresh. the problem is that the tools of reductionist chemical analysis that we thought were so sophisticated and kewl in C19 are actually incredibly crude compared to the complexity of life processes. the phusics of *life* -- the difference between alive and dead -- is occupying some of the finest brains in quantum physics working at subatomic levels of granularity.

if we applied the current mindset of "food science" and industrial agriculture to human bodies, we would say that I am exactly the same dead as alive because my freshly-dead body contains the same chemical and mineral compounds in the same proportions as my recently-alove body. what the C19 reductionists have been unable to grapple with -- due to their domination/dissection oriented ideologies and the crudeness of their mental and physival toolkits -- is the complexity of living systems.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

continued...
Posted by: DeAnander on Jul 9, 2007 3:22 PM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
we are living systems and we are part of living systems; most of the traditional ways of preparing potentially hazardous foodstuffs rely on living systems (fermentation processes of various kinds). we did not evolve to eat reductionist food, food simplified to its base elements or created from the recombination of unrelated base elements. we evolved to eat complex foods -- though they may seem deceptively "simple" because they are not industrially processed, they are far more complex than any packaged factory food, just as an acre of rainforest is more complex by far than an acre of corporate monocrop ag.

both the cry that "soy is good for you" and the cry that "soy is bad for you" in this article come from the reductionist tradition that pretends a food (soy beans) can be understood by isolating its chemical components and assessing their effects in concentrated doses, i.e. regarding the food as merely an inefficiently-packaged form of vitamin pills. this is a fundamentally wrong way to look at life and at food, and it's literally killing us and the biotic infrastructure on which our livesj depend.

---------------------

recommended reading: Mae Wan Ho, The Rainbow and the Worm; K Barad, Meeting the Universe Half Way

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Let's bring back common sense
Posted by: ld7440 on Jul 9, 2007 7:23 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I wasn't aware that people were basing their dietary practices on "scientific opinion." How about a little common sense and a basic knowledge of nutrition? Rule#1 - the importance of a balanced diet consisting of unprocessed, whole foods eaten in moderation. I myself enjoy soy in moderation and without side effects. Also great for me are olive oil, butter, wheat, and chocolate - again, in moderation. Rule#2 - common sense would dictate that if one develops a sensitivity, that one remove the offending food, and try re-introducing it in small quantities, if possible. Rule#3 - Just because something is nutritious doesn't mean that everyone in the population, from the elderly to infants, should be consuming it with abandon. Everyone has different needs. One final rule - read labels religiously, eat organic where possible, or make your own!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

soy and eco-eating
Posted by: CyberBrook on Jul 9, 2007 7:43 PM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]

Here's the soy section from my Eco-Eating web site at http:www.brook.com/veg :

• 17. Soy:

Soy is a great substitution for meat and other animal products. Consuming soy—e.g., miso, soy beans (edamame), soy flour, soy “meat substitutes”, soy milk, soy nuts, soy yogurt, tempeh, tofu, TVP, etc.—provides all 9 essential amino acids as well as ample isoflavones, which have special protective properties against various forms of cancer, high cholesterol, and heart disease, and can help with kidney and bone health, the symptoms of menopause, and cognitive ability.

Soy also takes a lot less land (6-17 times), water (4.4-26 times), oil and other fossil fuels (6-20 times), biocides (6 times), and other resources to produce nutritious soy than it does to produce an equivalent amount of unhealthy and eco-destructive meat. Unfortunately, much of the soy crop is fed to animals raised for meat. Meat loses to soy in every category.

“Many soy products should be beneficial to cardiovascular and overall health because of their high content of polyunsaturated fats, fiber, vitamins, and minerals—and low content of saturated fat.”

F.M. Sacks et al., “Soy Protein, Isoflavones, and Cardiovascular Health”, Circulation, 1/17/06

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Get A GOAT (sigh)
Posted by: WitchyNy on Jul 9, 2007 8:14 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
-goat milk and cheese.
Grow a garden. Free organic veggies, free exercise.
Get some chickens. Organic eggs, free bug control.
Grind your own wheat and make your own bread.
Grow an apple tree. (or two or three-)

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Soy vey!
Posted by: jontan88 on Jul 10, 2007 9:33 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As an Chinese dude, I've eaten soy all my life in various forms and degrees. I've never had any problems with it. But I guess it's like milk and being lactose intolerant. I take a swig and off to the john I go.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Soy is a no go.
Posted by: Phenix on Jul 10, 2007 9:39 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I used to be on a soy diet but one day decided I wanted a real hamburger. Since then I only consume soy if I get in the mood to make a smoothie fortified with soy protein. That would happen once every couple months. After I started to work out again I decided I needed some protein shake so I turned to 100% whey for my smoothies.

I was starting to go towards a vegetarian diet again but this time I was going to eat beans and nuts as my regular source of protein and whey as my after work out drink mixed with 3 servings of various fruit. For awhile it all worked out but I do like my chicken and I really do not like kidney beans. I'll try again soon but I'll never go overboard with soy. I don't know why people are not aware of soy's hormonal properties but I was also amazed that people thought that Hussein was responsible for 9-11. America is truly home of the most ignorant people on Earth.

Soy is only good in moderation and should never be used as a meal substitute. If you need to eat beans try pinto or black beans. Both are versatile and healthy. Another great bean is the Chick Pea. I love all three but you need to include other nuts if you want to be healthy.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

it's lucky that meat & dairy have no hormones!!!
Posted by: theo on Jul 11, 2007 7:29 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This article is so ridiculous. Soy has high levels of hormones...the soy industry is an evil genius that has found a way to insert their products into everything...soy is dangerously genetically modified!!!
Those are all true! I cannot dispute that.
What I find funny is that you could take those same statements and apply them to the meat & dairy industry.
Cows are given hormones so they producemore milk.
Meat and/or dairy products are (hidden) in so many processed foods it's ridiculous. Gelatin, whey, Vitamin D3...the list goes on. A vegan cannot buy a loaf of bread or a box of cereal without reading all the ingredients first (which I would recommend everyone do anyway).
Meat, chicken, dairy, none of this is natural. There are tons of antibiotics and hormones and whatever else, "science" to which these animals have been subjected.
A vegetarian who eats soy sausage for breakfast, tofu dogs at lunch, soy burger for dinner, is not eating well. Just like an omnivore who eats bacon for breakfast, baloney for lunch, and ham for dinner is not eating well.
As others have said, use some common sense! Don't claim vegetarianism made you sick when you didn't eat a healthy diet. "Chips and soda are vegetarian, why do I feel sick?"

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

eat more soya
Posted by: richholland on Jul 11, 2007 8:21 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
step 1 burn down the rain forest
2 make a soya plantation
3. find greenos who eat the stuff, sell to McDonalds to feed their crazy cows

My late granmother died 95 years old, she was never sick,
eating peasoup, rye bread with butter and bacon.
Overweighted but moving, cleaning the house raising children and taking care of the grandchildren.
Her moment of Glory wasnt to be president of he USA but to be on the party was the children and the grandchildren and the grandgrandchildren

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

impeachment
Posted by: gsaephanh on Jul 13, 2007 1:02 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Call in your vote TODAY for impeaching Bush and Cheney at this number: 202-225-0100

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office is taking calls voting for Impeachment of Bush/Cheney at 202-225-0100. PLEASE CALL TODAY. At the toll free capitol switchboard #s below, you can also call your particular district’s congressional representative to insist that they support impeachment for Cheney. E.g., for Rep. Dennis Kucinich’s H Res 333 for Cheney; please say:

“In addition to supporting Kucinich’s bill H Res 333, I would also support a similar Impeachment Resolution against Bush, especially after the disgraceful Scooter Libby sentence “commuting” and the following issues: wiretapping, torture, numerous 9/11 intelligence misrepresentations, the continued occupation of Iraq, gross negligence during Hurrican Katrina, the Valerie Plame CIA leak, […list your other grounds…] ..”[see resolutions on tab #2 for other grounds for impeachment]).

LANIC requests that Americans call today…Not tomorrow or next week. Every call adds to the extraordinary grasswoots and nationwide movement’s pressures on House Speaker Pelosi to act now .before further innocent lives are lost in Iraq and elsewhere. Last week 28 Americans lost their lives. Over the July 4, 2007 weekend over 400 Iraqis lost their lives…

SEND MAIL TO HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI: Attn: Nancy Pelosi, House Representative/Speaker of the House, 235 Cannon H.O.B., Washington, DC 20515 ; Pelosi’s Fax # 202 225-8259

Pelosi’s e-mail address :

Americanvoices@mail.house.gov

CC her at: sf.nancy@mail.house.gov

Please send her a pro-impeachment email and a specific call to endorse H Res 333. Note: On Saturdays/Sundays, Pelosi’s office has a comment line at which you can leave a voicemail. Your message will be transcribed and relayed to her. Please do encourage your family/friends to contact the same number. Refer them to www.bcimpeach.com for the actual telephone #s & contact info.

Find out who your Congressional representative is and call that person. For toll free numbers to your Congress rep: (8