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There Is a Way to Help Avoid Heart Disease and Diabetes: You Are What You Eat!

By Kathy Freston, AlterNet. Posted October 31, 2009.


A plant-based diet is both preventative and healing, whereas a diet high in animal protein is destructive to our health.
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"If the truth be known coronary artery disease is a toothless paper tiger that need never, ever exist and if it does exist it need never, ever progress."

So says Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn, who was a researcher and clinician at the Cleveland Clinic for over 35 years. In 1991, Dr. Esselstyn served as the president of the American Association of Endocrine Surgeons, and organized the 1st National Conference on the Elimination and Prevention of Heart Disease. In 2005, he became the 1st recipient of the Benjamin Spock Award for Compassion in Medicine. Dr. Esselstyn is also an Olympic gold medalist in rowing, and he was awarded the Bronze Star as an army surgeon in Vietnam.

In this series of interviews I've conducted with extraordinary nutritional researchers and medical doctors, I've sought to understand the link between diet and the most common and dreaded diseases that are prevalent in our culture. What I'm hearing over and over is that a plant-based diet is both preventative and healing, whereas a diet high in animal protein is destructive to our health - this is the case with cancer, type 2 diabetes, and heart disease.

The great news is that there is very real hope in shifting the course of our health. What is becoming very apparent through various peer reviewed studies is that by changing our diet - eliminating that which causes havoc in the body (animal protein) and adding in plant based proteins and eating lots of vegetables, legumes, beans, and whole grains, we can not only prevent disease, but also heal from it once it is already in motion. Following is a fascinating conversation I had on diet and heart health.

KF: What exactly is coronary heart disease?

CE: Coronary heart disease is the leading killer of women and men in western civilization. It is predicted to become the #1 global disease burden by 2020.

It consists of an inflammatory buildup of blockages in arteries to the heart muscle. These blockages are made of fat, cholesterol, calcium, and inflammatory cells. Blockages can become severe enough to cause symptoms such as shortness of breath or chest pain (angina). When blockages suddenly become complete, the portion of heart muscle fed by that blocked artery is now deprived of oxygen and nutrients, thus it is injured or now dies. This is a heart attack. The patient may survive or succumb if the event is accompanied by a fatal heart rhythm.

KF: Who develops heart disease?

CE: Everyone eating the typical western diet. In autopsy studies of our GI's who died in the Vietnam and Korean wars almost 80% at an average age of 20 years, had disease that could be seen without a microscope. Forty years later in 1999, a study of young persons between the ages of 16-34 years who have died of accidents, homicides and suicides, finds the disease is now ubiquitous.

KF: What is the cause of the disease?

CE: It is the typical western diet of processed oils, dairy, and meat which destroys the lifejacket of our blood vessels known as our endothelial cells. This cell layer is a one cell thick lining of all of our blood vessels. Endothelial cells manufacture a magical protective molecule of gas called nitric oxide, which protects our blood vessels. It keeps our blood flowing smoothly, it is the strongest dilator (widener), of our blood vessels, it inhibits the formation of blockages (plaques), and it inhibits inflammation.

KF: With such natural protection, why do we ever develop heart disease?

CE: Every western meal of processed vegetable oils, dairy products, and meat (including chicken and fish) injures these endothelial cells. As individuals consume theses damaging products throughout their lives, they have fewer functioning endothelial cells remaining and thus less of the protective nitric oxide. Without enough nitric oxide the plaque blockages build up and grow creating eventually heart disease and strokes.


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Kathy Freston is a health and wellness expert and a New York Times best-selling author. Her latest book is The Quantum Wellness Cleanse: A 21 Day Essential Guide to Healing Your Body, Mind and Spirit. Freston promotes a body/mind/spirit approach to health and happiness that includes a concentration on healthy diet, emotional introspection, spiritual practice, and loving relationships. Kathy’s recent television appearances include The Oprah Winfrey Show, Ellen, The View and Good Morning America.

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Hey, it's better than Vasumurti's constant spamming
Posted by: Biflspud on Oct 31, 2009 7:03 AM   
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I mean, both of them just copy and paste the same garbage to post after post, but this way I get to learn about fashionable boots! And Air Jordans!

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Rigged studies prove nothing
Posted by: CathyP on Oct 31, 2009 3:26 AM   
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Dr. Esselstyn compares a carefully managed healthy vegetarian diet to an unmanaged crap food diet. Which only proves that eating a crappy diet is bad for us. Duh!

When carefully managed vegetarian diets are compared to carefully managed diets which include animal and fish products the animal/fish diets are healthier. For example, meat and fish supply taurine, DHA, carnosine, CoEnzyme Q10 and vitamin B12 which are difficult to obtain in a vegetarian diet.

For more see http://tinyurl.com/yaernqv

On a side note is AlterNet pushing a vegetarian diet for health or for political purposes as in feeding the millions of starving poor? If it is to feed the poor I'd enjoy seeing a strong push for population control. The important message such populations around the world need to hear is not that others need to become vegetarian in order to feed them. Rather these populations need to stop reproducing to the point of starvation.

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» RE: vitamin B-12 Posted by: vasumurti
Really?
Posted by: jrgjniew on Oct 31, 2009 3:31 AM   
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Kathy, Kathy, Kathy, More BS. The reason more Doctors don't follow and promote this, is that most Doctors don't believe it either. If we are dieing from meat, then why do we continue to live longer and longer? I would like to ask how the Eskimos survived all these years on whale meat and pure blubber. Had few of these diseases until the white man showed up and gave them tooth and gum disease, which may be the true cause of some of these malodys? You should try to promote your veganism in vegan publications. More power to you to be vegan if you wish--but please stop ruining the farmers who raise livestock, by trying to force veganism down everyone's throats. GEE, if you believe in all the "green" crap articles in here, and bunk like in this article, you should be promoting meat, so it can quickly wipe out half our population, so Earth can be greener. Isn't population, and population increase our biggest threat?????????????? You vegans will be all tht is left after a few generations. You will breed out the genetic desire for meat.

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» Our Daily Meds Posted by: clresu
I'm T II Diabetic.
Posted by: girlperson1 on Oct 31, 2009 4:10 AM   
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As a Type II diabetic who was eating a mostly veggy diet, I weighted 271 lbs and was getting sicker by the day. After switching to a very low carb diet eating mostly lean meats, little or no veggies and no more bread, pasta or potatoes, I lost 77 lbs, my diabetes is gone, my blood pressure is back to normal and my cholesterol and triglyceride levels are all perfect. One size does not fit all when it comes to human physiology.

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» The food cure for diabetes Posted by: souffrantfleur
» RE: The food cure for diabetes Posted by: girlperson1
» It's in your mtDNA, really. Posted by: girlperson1
» RE: It's in your mtDNA, really. Posted by: calichepit
nutritional data
Posted by: vasumurti on Oct 31, 2009 6:32 AM   
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The following quotes, facts, figures, and statistics are excerpted from Please Don't Eat the Animals (2007) by Jennifer Horsman and Jaime Flowers:

"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."

---Albert Einstein

"Each year, the meat industrial complex abuses and butchers nearly 9 billion cows, pigs, sheep, turkeys, chickens, and other innocent, feeling animals just for the enjoyment of consumers. Each year, nearly 1.5 million of these consumers are crippled and killed prematurely by heart failure, cancer, stroke, and other chronic diseases that have been linked conclusively with the consumption of these animals. Each year, millions of other animals are abused and sacrificed in a vain search for a 'magic pill' that would vanquish these largely self-inflicted diseases."

---Alex Hershaft, PhD, president, Farm Animal Reform Movement

When analyzing 8,300 deaths in the United States, United Kingdom, and Germany among 76,000 men and women in five different, large studies, researchers concluded that vegetarians have a 24 percent reduction in death from heart disease.

Similarly, in the famous Oxford Vegetarian Study, where 6,000 vegetarians were compared with 5,000 meat-eaters over nearly two decades, scientists found that the rate of death from heart disease was 28 percent lower in vegetarians than in meat-eaters.

One study analyzed eighty scientific studies in leading medical journals. The analysis found that vegetarians had lower blood pressure, and were less likely to suffer from stroke, heart attack, and kidney failure.

A large German study of nearly 2,000 vegetarians found that deaths from heart disease were reduced by over one-third, and that heart disease itself was far less than that of the general population.

Another large study examined the coronary artery disease risk of young adults ages 18 to 30 and vegetarians were found to have much higher levels of cardiovascular fitness and a greatly reduced risk of heart disease.

"The process of gradual blocking of the coronary arteries begins not in adulthood but in childhood...and the main cause of this arteriosclerosis is the steadily increasing amount of fat in the American diet, particularly saturated animal fats such as those found in meat, chicken, milk and cheeses. If there was another disease that caused half a million deaths a year, you can be sure that the public would be acutely aware of the danger, and that the cure or prevention would be universally practiced."

---Dr. Benjamin Spock, author, child expert

"I don't understand why asking people to eat a well-balanced vegetarian diet is considered drastic, while it is medically conservative to cut people open and put them on powerful cholesterol-lowering drugs for the rest of their lives."

---Dr. Dean Ornish, author, Reversing Heart Disease

Stroke is the third leading cause of death behind heart disease and cancer. Vegetarians have a 20 to 30 percent reduced risk of having a stroke. Stroke, like heart disease, is associated with diets high in saturated fats, and the vegetarian diet is naturally low in these fats.

The Oxford Vegetarian Study found cancer mortality to be 39 percent lower among vegetarians when compared with meat-eaters. The European Prospective Investigation of Cancer found vegetarians suffer 40 percent fewer cancers than the general population.

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» RE: nutritional data Posted by: jrgjniew
» RE: nutritional data Posted by: jrgjniew
nutritional data (cont'd)
Posted by: vasumurti on Oct 31, 2009 6:33 AM   
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Studies have shown that decreasing a woman's animal fat intake can reduce the chances that she will die from breast cancer. A large-scale, long-term study in the Netherlands found a powerful connection between the amount of animal fat consumed and the rate of prostate cancer. A review of a dozen studies found dietary fat strongly correlated with prostate cancer.

Ovarian, uterine, and endometrial cancers have all been shown to be strongly correlated to the amount of animal fat in one's diet, and vegetarian women have significantly lower rates of these cancers.

"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all the natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined."

---Dr. Neal Barnard, Executive Director, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

"Vegetarians have the best diet. They have the lowest rate of coronary disease of any group in the country. They have a fraction of our heart attack rate and they have only 40 percent of our cancer rate."

---William Castelli, MD, Director, Framingham Heart Study

"Human beings are not natural carnivores. When we kill animals to eat them, they end up killing us because their flesh, which contains cholesterol and saturated fat, was never intended for human beings, who are natural herbivores."

---Dr. William Roberts, editor-in-chief, American Journal of Cardiology

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I will soon be starting a new Offset business, but need help to begin it
Posted by: Beck on Oct 31, 2009 7:00 AM   
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In the manner of Carbon Offsets for those who want to fly guilt-free (of course, it's still not carbon-free), I would like to employ a group of Non-omnivores for my Meat Offset website. It will work just like carbon offsets: meat eaters who want to avoid the constant judgement upon our characters can buy offsets from vegetarians or vegans. However, this means NO MEAT, people! I will have a very small pool to work with, so you will make good money. Each of you will end up with at least 100 omnivores. Omnivores, you will receive a badge to make it clear your meat is offset: No Judging!

I have a hybrid and will sell personal offsets to anyone with a really big SUV. And there is a British website that sells cheating offsets: if you cheat on your spouse, you can buy offsets from a faithful spouse, and sleep easily.

I will have the website up and running soon, but then it's all up to you. You have to admit it makes as much sense as Meatless Mondays.

Speaking of which, a reminder:

Tuesdays are Too-Much Tuesdays. No buying excess. Get rid of excess. The world can't live as we do.

Wednesdays are Why Fly Wednesdays. If the whole world starts flying as much as Americans do, we're toast.

Saturdays and Sundays are Stay-Home, well, you know. Americans love to get away and go out on the weekends. The world can't accomodate everyone adopting our love of this. In a similar vein, Fridays are now Friendless Fridays. You can have friends if they are very nearby, otherwise, join the movement and save the planet.

Thursday is a day to make up for all the other days. Wait, every day can be a day to make up for all the other days. Dang.

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Uggs are evil
Posted by: leafsong1 on Oct 31, 2009 8:08 AM   
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These shoes are designed to eat your soul and send you straight to Hell. Both the Nortenos and Surenos have a tradition wherein gang soldiers are initiated by hunting down and brutally murdering people they find wearing Uggs. Uggs are made from the still beating hearts of freshly slaughtered baby harp seals by enslaved and malnourished children from Chad forced to work in sub-zero freezing factories where they are tied to their workplaces with tetanus-laced rusty barbed wire while being whipped by fat Republican transvestite pederasts. Please buy no Uggs.

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So why did hominoids evolve as omnivores?
Posted by: ETSpoon on Oct 31, 2009 8:26 AM   
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I think the paleoanthropological record to date is abundantly clear, the order hominidae evolved as omnivores, eating seeds, leaves, fruits and some animal protein. Even foodie maven Michael Pollan's oft quoted axiom-- "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."--is not a call for veganism but moderation.

The thing that I find most unappealing about veganism is its cultishness. Vegans on this forum, and elsewhere, will impart their revealed wisdom with the fervor of an evangelical, twice-born Christian or whatever passes for the same among Muslims.

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» Typical carnivore two-step Posted by: Tricia
» What do you know? Posted by: Tricia
Kathy Freston, you are SO RIGHT!
Posted by: ClaudineMe on Oct 31, 2009 8:39 AM   
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I saved my husband's life w/ a vegan diet. He was a very diabetic senior citizen who is now so much better. It's just amazing what a veggie diet can do! Ha! It's not just for animals' health and well-being but great benefits for human animals!

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How the MOONPUNK SPAMMER actually got into the shoe business
Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Oct 31, 2009 8:45 AM   
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THE REAL MOONPUNK

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health habit of eating
Posted by: donotworry on Oct 31, 2009 8:51 AM   
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To avoid heart disease and diabetes is very easy but sometimes very difficult for some peopel.
Just one point to keep health habit of eating.
But one simple thing is difficult for some of us.MTS Video Converter

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» RE: health habit of eating Posted by: sounddy
Vegetable oil?
Posted by: troy on Oct 31, 2009 10:47 AM   
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I wish the author would have clarified what he ment by "processed vegetable oils". Would cold pressed olive oil, for example qualify?

TRC

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» RE: Vegetable oil? Posted by: pg
NO NEED FOR THE FOOD POLICE
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Oct 31, 2009 2:24 PM   
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Most of us should just avoid the obvious junk and excessive amounts of animal fats. But mostly it's about balance. A diet can't be ALL fruits, veggies, beans, etc. For one thing it does not agree with many people's digestion and we do need carbohydrates. It's much easier to control diet by eating at home. But eating out and special occasions and holidays are supposed to be a treat. That's good for the soul. We need that too. ANNA

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» No vegetarians??? Posted by: Tricia
We are what we eat?
Posted by: Beck on Oct 31, 2009 4:08 PM   
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What does a plate of judgement and superiority look like? It must be the recipes. Plants alone don't cause it.

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Sherrill
Posted by: Snuggles on Oct 31, 2009 5:20 PM   
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"Circulation: Journal of the American Heart Association" reported last year that a study of dietary patterns in 52 countries proved that a Western diet (meat, fried foods, salty snacks) accounts for an estimated 30% increase in heart attack risk. In other words, we could actually wage a war on a country by simply introducing our Western diet to them!

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» RE: Sherrill Posted by: VZEQICVA
www.DrMcDougall.com excellent scientific vegan site
Posted by: rmforall on Oct 31, 2009 9:10 PM   
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www.DrMcDougall.com excellent scientific vegan site

Also be aware:

methanol content of wine or aspartame becomes formaldehyde and then formic acid in humans -- co-factors for "morning after" hangovers -- folic acid protects most people: Rich Murray 2009.10.31

There is the same level of methanol from the 11% methanol part of the aspartame molecule in 2 L [ 6 cans ] aspartame beverages, as in 1 L dark wine or liquors.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/579335

Dermatitis. 2008; 19(3): E10-E11.
© 2008 American Contact Dermatitis Society
Formaldehyde, Aspartame, and Migraines: A Possible Connection
Sharon E. Jacob; Sarah Stechschulte
Published: 09/17/2008

Abstract

Aspartame is a widely used artificial sweetener
that has been linked to pediatric and adolescent migraines.
Upon ingestion, aspartame is broken, converted, and oxidized into formaldehyde in various tissues.
We present the first case series of aspartame-associated migraines related to clinically relevant positive reactions to formaldehyde on patch testing.

formaldehyde, aspartame, and migraines, the first case series, Sharon E Jacob-Soo, Sarah A Stechschulte, UCSD, Dermatitis 2008 May: Rich Murray 2008.07.18
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_archive.htm
Friday, July 18, 2008
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1553

consider co-factors (methanol, formaldehyde, and protective folic acid), re UK FSA test of aspartame in candy bars on 50 reactors, Stephen L Atkin, Hull York Medical School: Rich Murray 2009.09.29
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2009_09_01_archive.htm
Tuesday, September 29, 2009
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1587

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages


four Murray AspartameNM reviews in SE Jacob & SA Stechschulte debate with EG Abegaz & RG Bursey of Ajinomoto re migraines from formaldehyde from aspartame, Dermatitis 2009 May: TE Hugli -- folic acid with V-C protects: Rich Murray 2009.08.12
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2009_08_01_archive.htm
Wednesday, August 12, 2009
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1582

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animal products are the real culprit
Posted by: vasumurti on Oct 31, 2009 11:37 PM   
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The health advantages of a vegetarian diet are well-known in the American medical community, but are just beginning to gain acceptance in the popular culture. The ethical, nutritional and environmental arguments in favor of vegetarianism have been well documented by author John Robbins in his 1987 Pulitzer Prize nominated book, Diet for a New America, which makes ethical vegetarianism seem as mainstream as recycling.

It’s healthier to be a vegetarian. During the period of October 1917 to October 1918, war rationing forced the Danish government to put its citizens on a vegetarian diet. This was a “mass experiment in vegetarianism,” with over three million subjects. The results were astonishing. The mortality rate dropped by 34 percent. The very same phenomenon was observed in occupied Norway during the Second World War. After the war, heavy consumption of meat resumed, and the mortality rate shot up again.

Studies done at Yale University by Professor Irving Fisher demonstrated that flesh-eaters have less endurance than vegetarians. A similar study done by Dr. J. Ioteyko of the Academie de Medicine in Paris found that vegetarians have two to three times more stamina than flesh-eaters and they take only one-fifth the time to recover from exhaustion.

In recent years, there has been widespread concern about osteoporosis, which is epidemic in America, especially among older women. The popular myth has been to solve the problem by consuming more calcium. Yet this doesn’t attack the root of the problem.

Osteoporosis is caused by excess consumption of protein. Americans overdose on protein, getting 1.5 to 2 times more protein than their bodies can handle. The body can’t store excess protein, so the kidneys are forced to excrete it. In doing so, they must draw upon calcium from the bloodstream. This negative calcium balance in the blood is compensated for by calcium loss from the bones: osteoporosis. The calcium lost in the bones of flesh-eaters is 5 to 6 times greater than that lost in the bones of vegetarians.

Excessive protein intake also taxes the kidneys; in America, it is not uncommon to find many over 45 with kidney problems. A strong correlation between excessive protein intake and cancer of the breast, prostate, pancreas and colon has even been observed.

It must be pointed out that meat, fish, and eggs are the most acidic forming foods; heavy consumption of these foods will cause the body to draw upon calcium to restore its pH balance. The calcium lost from the bones gets into one’s urine and often crystallizes into kidney stones, which are found in far greater frequency among flesh-eaters than among vegetarians. Studies have found that vegetarians in the United States have less than half the kidney stones of the general population.

The high consumption of saturated fats and cholesterol leads to artherosclerosis—more popularly known as “hardening of the arteries.” Plant foods contain zero cholesterol and only palm oil, coconuts and chocolate contain saturated fats. Lowering the cholesterol and fat intake in one’s diet lowers the risk of heart disease—America’s biggest killer.

As far back as 1961, the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that “A vegetarian diet can prevent 97% of our coronary occlusions.” Much has been said about the advantage of polyunsaturated fats as a means of lowering cholesterol in the blood. Unfortunately, this also has the adverse side effect of driving the cholesterol out of the blood and into the colon; contributing to colon cancer. The best way to prevent heart disease is to avoid foods high in fat and cholesterol.

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animal products are the real culprit (cont'd)
Posted by: vasumurti on Oct 31, 2009 11:37 PM   
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Up to 50 percent of all cancers are caused by diet. Meat and fat intake are primarily responsible. The incidence of colon cancer is high in regions where meat consumption is high and low where meat consumption is minimal. A lack of fiber in the diet also contributes significantly to colon cancer.

It’s important to note that unprocessed plant foods are high in fiber and carbohydrates, while animal flesh has none. The highest incidence of breast cancer occurs among flesh-eating populations; meat eating women have a four times greater risk of developing breast cancer than do vegetarian women. There is also a greater risk of cervical, uterine, and ovarian cancer—all linked to diets high in fat. Men who consume large quantities of animal fat also have a 3.6 times greater risk of getting prostate cancer.

Diabetes is known to be treatable on a low fat, high fiber diet. Incidence of diabetes balloons among populations eating a rich, meat-based diet. Hypoglycemia is caused by the excessive consumption of meats, sugar and fat. Multiple Sclerosis is also treatable on a low-fat diet. MS is prevalent among populations where consumption of animal fats is high and is least common where such consumption is low. A brain tissue analysis of people with MS found a high saturated fat content.

Ulcers occur most frequently in diets which are acid forming, low in fiber and high in fats. Meat, fish, and eggs are the most acid forming of all foods, and animal flesh has no fiber and excess fat. Low fiber, high-fat diets are the principle cause of hemorrhoids and also diverticulosis—which affects 75 percent of Americans over the age of 75. Similarly, 35 percent of Americans are afflicted with some form of arthritis by the age of 35. Over 85 percent of all Americans over age 70 have arthritis, yet it is treatable on a fat free diet.

Excess cholesterol forms gallstones. Gallstones, as well as gallbladder disease and gallbladder cancer are usually found in people with low-fiber, high cholesterol, high fat diets. Hypertension is virtually unknown in countries where the intake of salt, fat and cholesterol is low. At the University Hospital in Linkoping, Sweden, even severe asthma patients were found to be treatable on a vegetarian diet. Flesh foods in America are also contaminated with coliform bacteria and salmonella. Much healthier alternatives exist.

William S. Collens and Gerald B. Dobkens conclude: “Examination of the dental structure of modern man reveals that he possesses all the features of a strictly herbivorous animal. While designed to subsist on vegetarian foods, he has perverted his dietary habits to accept food of the carnivore. It is postulated that man cannot handle carnivorous foods like the carnivore. Herein may lie the basis for the high incidence of arteriosclerotic disease.”

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daily shit meat
Posted by: richholland on Nov 1, 2009 2:17 AM   
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well known to all europeans and asian people;
daily meat has no good influence.

in hunters cultures you eat meat a several time a week.
The hill tribes in northern thailand eat red meat(Pigs) at chinese newyear

But americans have to eat meat and chemics everyday.

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HUMAN FLESH, ANYONE????
Posted by: smf1403 on Nov 1, 2009 6:03 AM   
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Eating flesh is being complicit in brutal confinement and torture of animals, period.

Would any of you flesh-eaters eat a human, I wonder. There is no difference.

The greed and complete lack of critical-thinking and empathy in eating animals whose life is not yours to take confounds reason.

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» RE: HUMAN FLESH, ANYONE???? Posted by: jrgjniew
» RE: HUMAN FLESH, ANYONE???? Posted by: richholland
Omnivores have genetic mutations
Posted by: GPFrank on Nov 1, 2009 6:21 AM   
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I settled down to an occasional pot roast. Otherwise bean salad along with pickled beets every day when I can find it. That pale green lettuce is a waste.
Being without gall bladder eating too much meat is immediately noticeable. Becomes much harder to keep clean.

A factor in spiking of morbidity associated with meat is hereditary cholestemia and triglyceride disease. Statins without changes in exercise, stress and diet do not help.

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Doctor Recommendation
Posted by: Southern Gal on Nov 1, 2009 7:30 AM   
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I recently had blood work done which showed high cholesterol and triglyceride levels. My family physician recommended a vegetarian diet limiting dairy and fat, with yoga for stress and walking and hiking for cardio vascular exercise. I don't understand why people get so worked up about articles promoting vegan or vegetarian diets. It's up to each person to find the diet that works for him or her.

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no one do not want a health body
Posted by: donotworry on Nov 1, 2009 7:53 AM   
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Yes.It' rihgt for you to have a vegetarian diet limiting dairy and fat, with yoga for stress and walking and hiking for cardio vascular exercise except you do not want the health body. Convert MTS Files
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WHY SHOULD EMOTION BE LEFT OUT OF IT? ARE YOU INHUMAN WITHOUT EMOTIONS?
Posted by: smf1403 on Nov 1, 2009 12:30 PM   
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jrgjneiw,

Emotion is a human trait. You have no right to tell me NOT to be human.

Of course, emotion is involved. I would not confine and torture and kill a human for food any more than I would confine, torture and kill an animal. There is no difference.

It is simple, mindless, greed that people like you use to justify your behavior and actions.

You are profiting off the forced-breeding, confinement and torture of animals.

This is the worst kind of way I can imagine to make money.

Do you have no skills other than torturing and killing animals?

You DO NOT have any more moral right to take the life of an animal than you do the life of a human being.

Sorry, but I do not need to defend my emotion.

This is exactly what is lacking in this "society" today and the root cause of the decline of our civilization - mindless greed and lack of empathy.

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Your version of Nancy Reagan's 'Just Say No' bullcrap...
Posted by: franklyspanking on Nov 1, 2009 7:14 PM   
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...sucks equally.

Welcome to equality.

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WHY IS IT?
Posted by: wwittman on Nov 1, 2009 8:05 PM   
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that meat eaters feel so THREATENED by vegetarianism that they feel compelled to attack it as anti-American (see Glen Beck...) and go through here 'rating' comments unfavourably?


why can't YOU just eat what you like and not worry about it?

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MC.Greenburgers
Posted by: richholland on Nov 1, 2009 9:43 PM   
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eating fast food meat is not so good. OK

But eating veggieburgers, fastfoodsalads etc. isnt any better.

James Oliver a fams english chef recommends no eat daily meat, and if you do quality meat.

Once a year red meat is enough to obtain B12.

I think the problem is the chemics in fast food.

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yes
Posted by: sounddy on Nov 1, 2009 11:52 PM   
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Yes.I agree with you about what you said.
Because I am vkery health in eep my body health.

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moderation, humility, acceptance, respect
Posted by: PillarKY on Nov 3, 2009 12:06 PM   
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i strive to consume few animal products, too many cause complications. we need more veggies and grains in our diets and farms.

still, you have to respect everyone's right to raise and sell animal products.

local animal products can be much more sustainable, and less cruel, than globalized, packaged veg. based products. i'd eat a grass fed burger from my neighbor, who feeds no outside grains to his cows and treats his land with complete on-farm fertility and seed stocks, before i'd eat a tofu burger from soy grown somewhere far away, on bare lands, where carbon is released thru intensive tillage and "natural" chemicals and animal factory waste "organic fertilizers" are used by factory "organic" farms, and where fuels ship the stuff across the country, package it in plastic, and advertise in magazines printed on paper made from redwoods.

point is: there's no recipe for sustainability or cruelty-free diets. you just have to know your farmer, understand the land and your food system, and be aware, ok, and intimately involved with of the source of your nutrition.

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He's an endocrinologist?
Posted by: dseilhan on Nov 4, 2009 9:58 AM   
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He needs to go back and study, then. People don't have the absolute final answers on this but the evidence is good that heart disease has lots and lots of contributing factors, none of which are meat- or dairy-eating.

1. We don't get enough sleep and when we do sleep, it's not dark enough in the room. This causes melatonin production to be shorted which leads to a cascade effect in screwing up the production of several neurotransmitters and hormones, including insulin. Lowered melatonin production also slows or stops the production of leptin which helps with fat-burning, and causes issues with the adrenal glands (thanks to stress) which further knocks things out of whack.

2. We produce too much insulin, which DOES screw with the endothelium in arteries.

3. Why do we produce too much insulin? Because we consume too much of what triggers insulin production: carbohydrate, especially sugars and starches. More so the sugars than the starches, actually, and...

4. ...Especially fructose. We eat such prodigiously high amounts of fructose now, it's scary. If the only sources of fructose we had were fruits and veggies, even with the modern plant foods we've bred to have more sugar in them, we'd get scant amounts of fructose yearly. We don't limit fructose intake to those things. We eat pounds and pounds of the stuff and it's very destructive to our livers, which also screws with insulin production and response. Until recently diabetics had an especially bad problem with this because fructose was recommended for them as a sugar substitute.

5. The other thing is we eat the wrong kinds of fats. Because of the campaign against saturated fat which was NOT based on science but on flawed studies and flawed conclusions to good studies... the composition of the fat we eat has, on average, changed drastically. Saturated fat intake has gone way down; polyunsaturated oil intake has gone way up. The problem is that we need saturated fat to build our cell membranes, and there is also a large amount of saturated fat and cholesterol in both the brain and the cardiac tissue, regardless of how we eat. It's there naturally as an energy source and support for those structures. We also use fat to make hormones so if we're not getting the right kind, our hormones go out of whack. If our bodies don't get saturated fat through diet, we make it from carbohydrate, which causes excess insulin release. So between the wrong fats messing up our hormones which also messes up our insulin, and our excess carb intake messing up our insulin... our artery linings don't stand a chance.

Nobody wants to look at the elephant in the living room. The Standard American Diet is not meat-based, it is grain- and soy-based. Nobody wants to admit this is bad for us. How did our ancestors, even as recently as a hundred years ago, get by without heart attacks from eating tallow and lard? Sugar was a lot more expensive back then, and they were getting the building blocks they needed for healthy bodies. It is not a matter of calories or fat storage. Food is also a source of NUTRIENTS. Eat the wrong ones and your body gets built and renewed with the wrong materials... presto, chronic disease.

Just because this guy has letters after his name and lots of honors doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. A lot of American dietary policy has been a case of the blind leading the blind. We're all intelligent enough here to do our own research outside the auspices of PETA and their ilk. Maybe it's time we started.

P.S. You're darn right I am what I eat. I'm an animal, not a corn stalk. Thanks for playing, though.

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weight gain is also the reson
Posted by: stevie teever on Nov 11, 2009 2:16 AM   
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i think weight gain is the one of the main reason behind some of these diseases..

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reduce the possiblility
Posted by: donotworry on Nov 13, 2009 5:14 AM   
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It is impossible to avoid heart disease and diabetes.What we can do is just to reduce the possiblility. Rip Blu Ray

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reduce the possiblility
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I will have
Posted by: nikefilson on Nov 16, 2009 10:11 PM   
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I will have the website up and running soon, but then it's all up to you. You have to admit it makes as much sense as Meatless Mondays.

Speaking of which, a reminder:

Tuesdays are Too-Much Tuesdays. No buying excess. Get rid of excess. The world can't live as we do.

Wednesdays are Why Fly Wednesdays. If the whole world starts flying as much as Americans do, we're toast.

Saturdays and Sundays are Stay-Home, well, you know. Americans love to get away and go out on the weekends. The world can't accomodate everyone adopting our love of this. In a similar vein, Fridays are now Friendless Fridays. You can have friends ясновидец (psych) обои к сериалу series posters show posters wallpapers tv show desktop wallpapers seropol5 if they are very nearby, otherwise, join the movement and save the planet.

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