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Reid and Pelosi Have Delivered on the Public Option -- Now Let's Get This Done

By Mike Lux, Open Left. Posted October 27, 2009.


In the coming weeks we will have an all-out public war with the insurance industry. It will decide whether we pass comprehensive reform or once again fall short at the bitter end.
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Okay, folks, we progressives got what we wanted. A comprehensive health care reform bill with a reasonably strong public option will be going to the floor as part of leadership bills in both the House and the Senate. We don't yet know whether we will get the best version of the public option in the House bill, and the Senate version is not as strong as progressives have been pushing for. But strengthening the form of the public option can be negotiated over in conference committee, once we get there.

For now, we can thank Harry Reid (HCAN has a page here) and Nancy Pelosi for their gutsy leadership, and fight like hungry dogs to win the floor fight and deliver on this hope. In the coming weeks we will have an all-hands-on-deck, all out public war with the insurance industry over whether we finally pass comprehensive health care reform or once again fall short at the bitter end after coming so far.

Here's where things are as we head into the floor fight:

1. White House staffers confirmed for me this afternoon that they are backing Harry Reid's decision "100 percent." Now that's not to say they aren't a little nervous about it. I suspect that there are still some feelings by some people working in that building that progressives should have given up and rolled over, and let them cut a deal with Olympia Snowe on her trigger-written-never-to-trigger. That would have been easier than sweating what will undoubtedly be a very tough battle to get all 60 Democrats to go along with the rest of the party. But us irritating progressive folk got in the way of doing that, and now Obama knows it's time to stand and deliver. I believe my friends at the White House when they say they will do an all-out fight for this bill. They know that starting down this path, and not being able to pull it off, would be a huge embarrassment and destroy all the momentum we've built by making it this far. They are all-in, and know how much is at stake. Rahm Emanuel and Jim Messina are famous for twisting arms and doing everything in their power to get the votes that are needed, and now is their time to deliver.

2. The entire progressive movement has to go all-in supporting an up or down vote on health care reform. We should try to strengthen this bill with an amendment strategy on the floor, and we should be prepared to fight for a strong, tough negotiation strategy in conference committee. But first, we should be putting every ounce of work, dollars, and muscle we can to convince all the Democrats in the Senate to support Reid on the cloture vote in the Senate. The White House and Reid are on the line to deliver, but so are we. This is a history- making fight, one of those huge moments in American history, and if we win, this progressive movement will be written about in the history books the way the big change movements of the 1960s, 1930s, 1900s, and 1860s are. This is our time to deliver, too.


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Great Pep Talk ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 27, 2009 1:16 AM   
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Where are the details of how to get involved?

How about a list of Senators to call to break the filibuster ...

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» RE: Great Pep Talk ... Posted by: ADNK
» RE: Great Pep Talk ... Posted by: The_Lazy_Left
We can do this
Posted by: Concernaboutnow on Oct 27, 2009 1:56 AM   
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The public option should be stronger. But for now this will do. In my state, Virginia, Senator Mark Warner writes that he doesn't care for the public option but he is an elected representative who was sent to Congress by the Virginians and not the health insurance companies. To vote against the PO means that he will become a one term senator. To vote for it means that he may be in Congress for decades or as long as he would like. The loss of his one vote for the public option would mean the loss of one vote that has voted for a democratic candidate since the 1970s. As a liberal I believe we can do this.

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Public option is a watered down...
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Oct 27, 2009 2:30 AM   
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...version of single payer.

Single payer is the only way to go.

In any event, whatever is passed MUST be the same health care plan that CONGRESS has.

Then and only then, will you see health care that is the same for the aristocracy and the common man.

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Reid hasn't delivered anything
Posted by: weightman on Oct 27, 2009 4:02 AM   
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Reid hasn't delivered anything to anybody but the CBO. He sent multiple versions of a bill containing something he calls a "public option" to the CBO for scoring. He'll make final decisions on the details of the bill once he determines which version guarantees the biggest profit for the insurance industry.
And Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House of Representatives. This is a Senate proposal. The only thing Pelosi has delivered is a commitment to Anthony Weiner and Bernie Sanders that the last chance for true comprehensive reform will be debated on the House floor.
Reid's presser was nothing more than an attempt to score polling points back home, and get Rahm and Obama off his back.

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Are you kidding?
Posted by: Erin on Oct 27, 2009 5:13 AM   
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This isn't "a comprehensive health care plan". Single payer is the only plan that will provide "comprehensive" health care to ALL!!! A public option only means that those that are poor and have no money still won't have healthcare because they can't afford to pay for the option just like they can't pay for insurance now.
Why do you all want to "settle" for this....demand single payer or nothing.

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» RE: Are you kidding? Posted by: WeimMom
» RE: Are you kidding? Posted by: oroot
Public Option
Posted by: WeimMom on Oct 27, 2009 5:19 AM   
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Claire McCaskill: "I'm not sure that everyone understands that a public option will only be available to those who don't have insurance coverage, not everyone"
http://tweetcongress.org/people/claire-mccaskill

I have "no" insurance, yet I am not in favor, why should American Taxpayers have to pay for those of us who do not carry insurance coverage.
The end result is only going to cost us more money in other areas, products we purchase, higher taxes on our "non-essential" purchases, such as soda pop, etc.
I look for it to "not" pass, when the Dems through Snowe in the front of the bus, it ended any support she would have given.

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» RE: Public Option Posted by: weightman
What's to get excited about?
Posted by: DJC11 on Oct 27, 2009 5:57 AM   
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You are not eligible for the public option if you have insurance through your employer, even if the public option is cheaper.

States can opt out.

This isn't CHANGE, this is a joke!

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» RE: What's to get excited about? Posted by: The_Lazy_Left
Our New Young President is Key.....
Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 27, 2009 6:04 AM   
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.... to pushing yhis health care reform issue over the goaline. Will he step up to his moral moment in history or play the usual Washington politics?

Progressives are carefully watching

LEAD MR.PRESIDENT - LEAD

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa

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Healthacare mt arse!
Posted by: Lucidity on Oct 27, 2009 7:21 AM   
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Don't think for one minute anything these parasites pass will benefit you and I. The contrary, this healthcare bill will only benefit the insurance companies, the pharmaceuticals and big businesses.

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» Echos of the Bailout Posted by: james108
Why won't he say those four little words?
Posted by: redbridge on Oct 27, 2009 7:24 AM   
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Make me do it.

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Where the non-mandated option?
Posted by: lclark on Oct 27, 2009 8:03 AM   
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Where is the option where I am not mandated to spend the money I have left after paying Federal, State, sales, property, and various other hidden taxes?

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The Public Option is no triumph, this is a crappy compromise.
Posted by: rancespergl on Oct 27, 2009 8:35 AM   
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This isn't the art of politics this is the result of bullying by people who were unwilling to compromise on anything. The Democrats softened their stance, not because they had to but reflexively, as timid yet venal types do.

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My Comment to the Democratic Party HQ today.
Posted by: reelectnoone on Oct 27, 2009 8:34 AM   
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I sent this to the DNC on their web site today...
We need to put pressure on the whole party to do something the Republicans are famous for...working as a unit with a single focus and goal.

It was said that the Democratic Party is famous for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

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Democrats,

The ball is in your court. If you guys botch health care reform you will have played right into the hands of the right-wing and, after decades of failures, will finally be responsible for killing reform once and for all.

If you guys blow it...again...I will leave the Democratic Party and never again make a contribution or campaign for another Democrat.

We want meaningful reform...we want it now and won't accept hidden "gotchas" like triggers or opt-out or any number of tricks to undermine reform or to provide welfare to the big insurance companies.

This fight is where you lock your doors to lobbies. This is where you concentrate on only one promise...the one made to the American people to bring health care to everyone regardless of their financial status or medical condition.

You need to make this clear to every Democrat in Congress that they need to take a page from the Republicans and beat them at their own game by uniting FOR the PEOPLE instead of AGAINST the people as the right is doing.

Can you do it? Do you have the stones to drag your people into line for once or will the Democrats go down in history as having been the party that had the chance then blew it while playing footsie with one or two Republicans for votes you don't really need?

I am watching you...if you blow it, you may blow the next election along with it...failure is not an option.

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I suggest anyone who want's reform should post their own letter to the DNC by clicking here

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Copy of E-mail sent to Mike Lux/ Now Open Letter
Posted by: Newstime on Oct 27, 2009 8:43 AM   
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Mr. Lux, it's actually a better "progressive strategy" to play one's trump cards and not continually lose ground and accept setbacks. And it is no progressive strategy at all to fail to take the time to explore what trump cards one has available.

"Now Let's Get This Done" sounds familiar. But the phrase works better in another context, this E-mail sent to the White House through Press Secretary Robert Gibbs' E-mail address, reminding President Obama of the trump card dedicated progressives would have him play:

"President Obama will rarely enjoy greater advantage or exercise as much control over a public-policy outcome as he can on health-coverage reform right now. He needs to take matters by their smooth handle, as President Thomas Jefferson advised, and suggest to Democratic judicial appointee Ann Aiken in the Oregon District that she made a mistake and that she should concede, by way of corrective action on the judicial-misconduct complaint filed against her, that equal health protection is, indeed, a Constitutional right for uninsured taxpayers required to pay for the government health benefits of others, and complete strangers no less, while they are forced to do without. He needs to exercise leadership and be done with health-care reform.

"There are a whole slate of public-policy matters coming up for consideration ... , and he cannot afford to have health-coverage reform monopolize his time...."

The reference is to Rule 11 (d) of Judicial-Conduct Proceedings prescribed by the U.S. Judicial Conference.

Under Rule 11 (d), the judge under examination can take corrective action to satisfy the reason for the complaint and, in the specific case at hand, concede that equal health protection certainly is a Constitutional right for uninsured taxpayers and their family members compelled to pay for the health protection of complete strangers, out of their family budgets. Also, the chief judge can suggest to that judge that the previous ruling was not Constitutionally sound! And President Obama, as a constitutional lawyer, can legitimately and privately convey to that Democratic judicial appointee that she made a mistake that she needs to correct. All three have been Democrats. The matter is entirely in the hands of Democrats!

Why do you want to tangle with Blue Dog Democrats and Republicans when there is no need to do so. True progressives are entitled to work smart, too. Besides, you undoubtedly sense where Democratic supporters, family members and friends stand on universal health care. When a course is right, simple and easy, they expect that course to be taken.

Your resume is impressive. You should put your influence to good use. This solution holds the line at an effective date for health-coverage reform of February 20,2008. So far, you've endorsed hand-to-hand combat with Blue Dogs, Republicans and private insurance industry, with the effective date sliding further and further into the future and with uninsured taxpayers--such as those whose gross wages are reduced by Medicare payroll-tax withholding--losing additional days, weeks and months of potential health-care coverage.

In January, 2007, Mr. Obama said he was an enthusiastic health-reform supporter. Later, he recommended health care equal to what members of Congress receive. Since he was ready to support health-care reform in January, 2007, fixing on an effective date of February 20,2008, based on the Constitutional claim made for equal health protection, (for those that needed it and could benefit from it now) would not be an unreasonable compromise for him. Therefore, you are urged to use your influence and work your contacts toward adoption of this sensible approach.

Thank you.

Charles H. Savage/Editorial Columnist
Continental Features/
Continental News Service, Inc.

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» Accept brunowe's BS in the matter Posted by: bonapartist
We got what we wanted?
Posted by: holypigeon on Oct 27, 2009 10:21 AM   
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Really? I don't see single payer on the horizon. Even if there is a public option, those of us in the middle of the middle class will not have the option of selecting it. Insurance companies will continue to exist and continue to screw us. The only difference is that we will be forced to choose our poison. Congress will pat itself on the back for a historical win and call it a day. It's sad. As much as I care about the issue of healthcare, I stopped paying attention to the maneuverings of our elected officials long ago. They don't work for us and it's hopeless. Sorry to be such a pessimist about it all.

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Some war...
Posted by: james108 on Oct 27, 2009 11:49 AM   
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It's a trojan horse to completely sidestep the giveaway of mandated insurance. The public option is recontacted back out to insurance companies and in the end takes more per person than private insurance would.

Best case scenario, some people will get subsidies, most will have to have insurance, those that try to insurance themselves more will get taxed on it, and medicare gets gutted.

Worst case scenario, it gets worse.

Single payer, a universal fee schedule to prevent individual extortion or something that actually addresses the cost of health core or helps most would be worth fighting for.

I am not getting fired up and fighting for a lie that is a neat trick to shut liberals up, and they can pretend this is a fight against the health insurance industry.

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I've said it before
Posted by: willymack on Oct 27, 2009 11:52 AM   
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And I'll say it now; Obama is a gradualist. He likes to do things one baby step at a time.
Maybe this is a good idea with the health care issue, maybe not.
Maybe the insurance and pharma racketeers can be lulled into a false sense of security until a single-payer universal health care system can be slipped by them.
In my opinion, they should've been told in no uncertain terms that universal health care was on the way, their participation was not wanted, and that ANY resistance to a REAL not-for-profit health care plan would be met with swift and sure criminal prosecution.
One thing at a time, I guess.

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» Nothing gradual about it. Posted by: james108
Opt-Out Clause
Posted by: Jdog on Oct 27, 2009 12:37 PM   
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I don't care for the opt-out clause that makes it possible for states to decline participation in the public option, but there is a silver lining...

By making it possible to opt out, the next state-wide and local state elections will probably boil down to a referendum on the Public Option. Some states, such as TX, may opt out only to see a further decline in health care and an increase of health care industry abuses. This will highlight the failure of GOP policies and may eventually turn red states blue.

In fact, GOP senators and state legislatures will feel immediate pressure and may be forced to support the public option before it even comes to an election.

I think that the ability to opt out will highlight the true support a public option has even in red states, and will expose the basic weakness of the GOP's hold on these states. In the end, setting up a referendum on the public option may very well create a strong Democratic majority similar to the one created by the New Deal.

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It's all theatre
Posted by: lclark on Oct 27, 2009 12:40 PM   
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They created this phony battle...the good gummerment against the nasty corps. We gonna get you your public option. A slogan and a con.

They could simply create a public health program out of tax revenue. Instead they'll create theatre and get you thinking they actually did something for citizens by mandating how they spend thier remaining cash they haven't already grabbed via taxes and fees (government) or high interest and arbitrary fees ( financial institutions).

When are people gonna wake up to the fact that the gangs that produce nothing bully and con wealth from us all. They make up all sorts or rules and create all sorts of false choices and produce all sorts of slogans (like a "free speech zone") to hide the truth and keep you down.

We're nothing but landless serfs paying rent to the nobility. Think not? .....try to not pay taxes on your house.

We own nothing and have to hustle to come us with cash for one thing after another for the gangsters.

Land of the free and home of the brave? Don't think so.

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"Reid & Pelosi Have Delivered" BS for the Corporate Police State
Posted by: PointMan on Oct 27, 2009 1:23 PM   
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This is the fight of our lives, and after all the preliminaries, we have made it to the finals. Reid and Pelosi have delivered. The White House is ready to roll. Now let's get this done.

What a crock that is.

"Fight of our lives" ? More like a whimper and cave-in of the sheep. This is a "public option" like AlterNOT is a real challenge to the status quo.

There is no "public option". Full stop. Like what Senator Max Cleland said of the 9/11 event and so-called investigation "IT'S A SCAM" and "NATIONAL SCANDAL". Like our government and media controlled by WALL ST. corporate crime mobsters it's all owned by petty monopolist tyrants that have their boot on a mindless herd too foolish to know they've been had. Again.

And again.

And again.

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What will it cost each American???
Posted by: WeimMom on Oct 27, 2009 4:29 PM   
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmoTtw9794A&feature=player_embedded#

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» Good post Posted by: james108
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