to leave 100 million Americans un or underinsured, 1 illness away from financial ruin. And it's wrong to burden small business with the outrageous insurance costs also -- found a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth

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between the conduct of herself and her husband. Something from those is probably about to hit the fan.

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To counter the wing-nuts within his own party that continue propagating the lies, half truths, and out-right distortions in their misguided efforts to kill health-care for all. Maybe if he repeats it enough times, some of the nuts might actually be quiet enough to hear him.....

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It is called social Darwinism if the poor (who are basically scaliwags anyway) are left to die then the overal cost of healthcare will go down and there will be more for those blessed by "Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" i.e. Rich People. How do you think rich people get rich? it is through "Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" and HIS blessings, that's how. If "Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" liked poor people he would make them rich at least that is what I learned from Rick Warren and other pastors blessed by "Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" to bring the TRUTH to America.

Amen let's keep our wonderful system that is the very best in the whole world and if there are "Death Panels" then I say good!!! another way to thin the ranks of poor old people.

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Medicare for everybody will take the stress off the young and the old. The average person will save over five thousand dollars a year. The only ones that will get hurt will be the health care insurers and their employees. But don't expect them to go down without a fight. They will invest billions to stay alive.

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What a ticket!!! Freedom will be restored and all this healthcare nonsense will be dead (just like thousands of poor people)

All we need the poor for is soldiering and when they can no longer do that we can send them to the "Death Panels" and that way we can own it all as "Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" meant it to be.

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"[end of life directives protect] physicians from being put into a position where they have to practice defensive medicine because of the trial lawyers"

Oh right, the old tort reform thing. The reason we pay twice per capita what all the other "developed" nations pay for health care is simply because people, whiny weak wimpy lazy people, sue the doctors and drug companies that make little tiny understandable medical faux pas like... killing them, leaving a scalpel inside them, selling "medicine" that does more harm than good, et cetera.

We MUST protect big business from the little guy!

I'm glad he didn't jump on that right-wing misinformation band wagon a la Palin, but I'm still ashamed that this corpwhore is one of "my" "representatives" in DC.

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Here's the quote: “How did this become a question of euthanasia?” Klein asked.

“I have no idea,” the senator replied.

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Yes you do, buddy. You and I both know precisely where it comes from. It comes from your friends and colleagues on the Hill and On The Air. Yes, YOUR friends. You're complicit in this happening in the US. YOU are not countering it by pre-empting it. You are not going on the air to dispute it. You're reacting to it ONLY because you've been asked.

You, sir are part of the problem.

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Soylent green is people!

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..at least my congress person (whom I have nvr voted for, and who gets about a letter per month explaining why I think he is wrong) is not as vile as Palin.

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despite
1. A 70-seat majority in the House
2. A 20-seat, filibuster-proof majority in the Senate
3. An eager-to-please President
If this thing won't fly under those circumstances, it must be fatally flawed.
Time to re-group and re-consider.

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Don't get overly serious about Palin, folks. She's a lightweight and a comedienne, something like Rush Limbaugh in skirts. Instead of trying to parse whatever she says or getting worked up over anything she has to say, the best thing is to regard her as the Dilberta of the day, a good (or bad)laugh.

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...and they have names like Blue Cross, Cigna, and Health Net. Bureaucrats making life or death decisions. Seems the Obama camp can turn this around pretty easily.

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It is what a few people do and what more people ought to do. Create trusts, write wills, plan the funerals, put an advanced directive in place, sign a living will, draw up a power of attorney in case of contingency, and in general put your affairs in order. That is what would be funded for medicare recipients if they had not already prepared for and thought through these technicalities.

It's a way of putting one's mind at rest, knowing that you are not leaving a mess behind which those you love will have to figure out. It's a way of telling them how you want your remains disposed of, how you want your assets (if you have any) divided, and, possibly avoiding the costs and delays of probate; do you want to be kept alive on life support? or, do you want the plug pulled if there is no expectation of hope of recovery? Who do you want to make that decision for you if you are not able to?

This is end of life planning. Too many people fail to do it.

It is not a "death panel." Sarah Palin got that wrong, too.

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Please get this fucking crap out of here. Do any of you assholes ever sell *ANYTHING* this way?

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The hypocrisy of this woman. And the whole Republican party. This is from the Anchorage Daily News.

http://www.adn.com/life/health/story/864670.html



Troubled Alaska health programs face federal restriction
IN-HOME CARE: Lawsuits, huge case backlog prompt moratorium on applications.
By LISA DEMER
ldemer@adn.com
Published: July 14th, 2009 10:11 PM
Last Modified: July 15th, 2009 05:14 PM
State programs intended to help disabled and elderly Alaskans with daily life -- taking a bath, eating dinner, getting to the bathroom -- are so poorly managed, the state cannot assure the health and well-being of the people they are supposed to serve, a new federal review found.


The situation is so bad the federal government has forbidden the state to sign up new people until the state makes necessary improvements.

No other state in the nation is under such a moratorium, according to a spokeswoman for the federal Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services.

In the meantime, frail and vulnerable Alaskans who desperately need the help are struggling. One elderly woman is stuck in a nursing home, for lack of care at home. Another woman, suffering from chronic pain and fatigue, said she's so weak, she often can't even pop dinner into the microwave.

The moratorium is expected to last four or five months. State officials estimate about 1,000 Alaskans will be affected.

A particularly alarming finding concerns deaths of adults in the programs. In one 2 1/2 year stretch, 227 adults already getting services died while waiting for a nurse to reassess their needs. Another 27 died waiting for their initial assessment, to see if they qualified for help.

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For me, the most thunderous by its absence from the discussion of what is being billed as health care reform - in the bewildered minds of the liberal and the young, all change is good - is mention of yet another law and its federal administrators like H.R. 3200 and those who will administer it. The U.S. Tax code and its "administrators," the IRS.

Half way now through the convolute morass of arcane and esoteric language that is the H.R. 3200, I recognize another law through which I once fought my way - the Tax Code. There is a reason for the way laws like this are written, of course. When no one can say what the law means, the "administrator" becomes nothing more nor less than a dictator.

Like IRS. When this verbal and grammatical monstrosity becomes law, the government will have come to control the publics health. Want to talk about how long it will take to get medical attention? Consider how long it will take you to get to court - and, when the "administrator" to the health care system has established its own courts, imagine how often the petitioner will win - no, don't imagine; go to a law library and read it.

Get it through your Operation MOCKINGBIRD media-bewildered head that the corporation who own government are not interestt in the public's health (any more than the American Medical Association is). They are interesting in CONTROLLING the public's health.

And if you don't believe that means deciding who will live or die (say "get medical attention or not" if you can't handle the verbiage) you haven't been paying attention.

That is exactly what the IRS did - and continues to do. The hideous truth about the number of persons who died - not just suicides, but heart attacks, complete emotional collapses and far more - under the cruel administration of IRS has long been concealed by the media, too. Oh, it's in the record - both the law libraries and the newspapers' files - for all to see, but you don't look because there's always a Michael Jackson story or the something even more lewd to keep your behaviorally altered mind busy.

And while the public who might otherwise have come to your aid by being alert and paying attention, and by demanding that the media keep them informed of such matters, drools over the latest Nancy Grace case, you will die waiting to get your health care case through the system and its courts. Just like people who trusted their congress to oversee rather than overlook IRS.

Get some understanding of what history would teach you, were you to ever read it; and get you head straight: government is in the business of deciding who lives and who dies. "The power to tax," Thomas Jefferson said famously, "is the power to destroy.

George Washington said it better. "Government is not reason," he warned, "it is not eloquence (read the damned law before you run off at the mouth about what it says and will do), it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master."

If you don't stop thinking like the brain-paralized ideologues who write here, you will learn the lesson of history - the lesson taught by the IRS for more than a century now -the hard way. And you will have deserved it.

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or her thought (not a mistake) even important? Her voice is like nails on a chalk board, and we know she is not one of the great thinkers of our time. Hell she doesn't even know what she reads. Media deems these people important if you stop covering them who would know they exist? The same goes for the lameos that are now showing up at these meetings getting 15 min. of fame on cable news.

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It's very unlikely we will actually see "death panels" and "euthenasia" but I'm glad that several people have at least brought it up...it's always good to consider all of the possibilities, and at the very least, it will keep those in power in some kind of check...most likely the citizens of countries who have suffered such atrocities didn't see it coming either.

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Johnny now claims he never introduced the bill.

Gotta love the GOP.

Senator Grassley is defending Palin's ''death panel'' claim, and it just keeps going.

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