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Are Mind-Enhancing Drugs a Dangerous Fad or a Great Way to Get Ahead?

By Jeremy Laurance, Independent UK. Posted June 23, 2009.


Advocates say they are an irresistible way of improving students' performance. Critics argue they are a dangerous fad.
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In the middle of the exam season, the offer of a drug that could improve results might excite students but would be likely to terrify their parents. Now, a distinguished professor of bioethics says it is time to embrace the possibilities of "brain boosters" -- chemical cognitive enhancement. The provocative suggestion comes from John Harris, director of the Institute for Science, Ethics and Innovation at the University of Manchester, and editor-in-chief of the Journal of Medical Ethics.

Ritalin is a stimulant drug, best known as a treatment for hyperactive children. But it has also found a ready black market among students, especially in the US, who are desperate to succeed and are turning to it in preference to the traditional stimulants of coffee and cigarettes. Users say it helps them to focus and concentrate, and this has been confirmed in research studies on adults.

David Green, a student at the University of Harvard, told The Washington Post: "In all honesty, I haven't written a paper without Ritalin since my junior year in high school."

Matt, a business finance student at the University of Florida, claimed a similar drug, Adderall, had helped him improve his grades. "It's a miracle drug," he told The Boston Globe. "It is unbelievable how my concentration boosts when I use it."

Some experts have condemned the trend and accused students of gaining an "unfair advantage" by doping, without explaining why it is any more unfair than hiring a private tutor or paying for exam coaching.

Professor Harris says that the arguments against the drugs "have not been persuasive" and that society ought to want enhancement.

"It is not rational to be against human enhancement," he writes. "Humans are creatures that result from an enhancement process called evolution and moreover are inveterate self improvers in every conceivable way."

Although no drug can be guaranteed safe and free of all side-effects, Ritalin has been judged safe enough for children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), and has been widely used to treat them over many years, he says.

The drug is a stimulant which was introduced in 1956 and appears to influence the way the brain filters and responds to stimuli. It increases energy as well as confidence and has been compared to cocaine. Possible side-effects are typical of stimulants and include insomnia, loss of appetite, dizziness and depression on withdrawal.

Other drugs investigated for their mind-enhancing properties include donepezil, a treatment for dementia and modafinil, used in narcolepsy, the condition in which sufferers repeatedly fall asleep.

Both drugs are thought to boost highly skilled performance, where concentration and alertness are prerequisites. One study found commercial pilots who took donepezil for one month performed better than pilots on a placebo when dealing with emergencies on a flight simulator. A study of modafinil found that it boosted the performance of helicopter pilots flying on simulators who had been deprived of sleep.

Writing in the online British Medical Journal, Professor Harris says the use of cognitive enhancing drugs should be seen as a natural extension of the process of education. Drug regulatory agencies should assess the benefits and risks in the same way as they would for any other medical intervention.


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RE: Why not?
Posted by: abbadon2007 on Jun 23, 2009 1:21 AM   
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I think about 4/5 of students in my major, senior year, were using. But that's just a top tier engineering school for you.

I was no different. I put away about two pots of coffee a day for a year. Finished college with chronic heartburn, E.D., high blood pressure and a BSME. I only kept the BSME, but then it's the same shit in grad school.

I guess the point here is that these enhancers give you an advantage if you're the only one using them. Right now, you're at a stark disadvantage if you don't. Either you're a genius or you need to stim to keep up.

Never mind that. Half of us were technically geniuses anyway, and the majority still loaded up with the pills. I abstain, then and now, out of some kind of misplaced sense of pride and honor, but there's no payout in it.

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» Super-enhance, risk, fake... Posted by: chaztmac
» RE: Why not? Posted by: blitzmesser
RE: Why not?
Posted by: jingles on Jun 23, 2009 1:33 AM   
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Sotomayor cheated because her parents forced her to be born Latino, not African American. Are you thinking of Justice Thomas?

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Brains in a bottle
Posted by: progressive-life on Jun 23, 2009 5:03 AM   
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Coping skills have almost totally disappeared.

Not everyone is mean to go through college... if you need a drug, pick a different field!

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» *** TROLL ALERT! *** Posted by: Quannah
» CENSOR ALERT!!!! Posted by: countingdaisies
» RE: CENSOR ALERT!!!! Posted by: blitzmesser
» RE: *** TROLL ALERT! *** Posted by: blitzmesser
» RE: Brains in a bottle Posted by: blitzmesser
Just what we need, a new generation of overachieving, narcissistic bankers hyped up on Ritalin.
Posted by: cvstoner on Jun 23, 2009 6:41 AM   
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Given the destruction recently inflicted by the so-called “best and brightest”, maybe we need a little less “brightest” and a little more “wisest”. There’s no pill for wisdom.

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Sotomayor cheated?
Posted by: Defenestrator on Jun 23, 2009 1:56 PM   
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AA meaning "affirmative action?"

She graduated Summa cum laude from Princeton.

Affirmative action has zero to do with grades.

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» RE: She graduated top of her class Posted by: Defenestrator
» Well, DUHfenestrator . . . Posted by: countingdaisies
Don Quixote
Posted by: Don Quixot on Jun 23, 2009 1:11 AM   
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“Side” effects? Is that the pharma-industry pronunciation of harmful effects like “collateral damage” is the military pronunciation of civilian deaths? If they are good or bad? Ask the manufactureres and those connected with it.

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» side effects Posted by: inverse_agonist
Sounds like the help some of us may need
Posted by: debocracy on Jun 23, 2009 1:33 AM   
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I just read an article about modafinil that intrigues me. As a recently-diagnosed ADD person, it kind of sounds like the agent that I have been missing all of my life. I was 56 when diagnosed, AFTER having a successful professional life, then returning to college and graduating from a top-tier law school at the age of 54. How would life have been for me had I been treated for this disorder as a child? My academic achievements pale next to the suffering they have caused me.

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smart not wise
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jun 23, 2009 3:10 AM   
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One of the experts quoted in the article stated that these performance enhancing attention/focus drugs may allow greater study skills, but they do not create "wisdom". Wisdom comes from complex sources; practical experiencne, observation of others, what we learn from teachers and from books.

Wisdom is not a quantifiable amount of facts or data. It is a form of analysis and even a path to wise behavior. I see little discussion of wisdom on the net, and it seems not to be a major concern of today's students.

Ironic that Buddhism and its offshoots uses meditation, a study method of the world that relies on focus, slowing the senses and acceptance of what one cannot do as well as what one can do. Adderall and its speed-up cousins accomodates a different world, a different perspective.

How much can we absorb in the shortest time possible to meet artificial deadlines? And after we absorb what is needed to pass a "test", how much do we retain and how wiser are we?

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» amphetamine, meditation, and attention Posted by: inverse_agonist
» RE: No... Posted by: njguy73
» RE: smart not wise Posted by: blitzmesser
Ritalin worked for me
Posted by: solrev on Jun 23, 2009 4:53 AM   
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Forty years ago we used Ritalin to cram for finals, it helps having a premed buddy whose dad is a doctor. I remember cramming for a calculus final; Ritalin kept me up for two days. I worked every problem in the book multiple times; cramming is like weight lifting reps build up long term memory. I remember getting annoyed that my hand writing could not keep up with my brain. There was nothing enhanced about it, I could have accomplished the same goal in five normal days. In a labor law course I memorized the case, the decision, the decent, and the precedent for a five-inch thick casebook, and easily aced the final without Ritalin. University success is about how easy one can transfer info into long term memory. I guess that is learning, but in the computer age it is a waste of time because that info is easily recalled on screen. Maybe there is a better way to teach what to do with the info rather than wasting so much time memorizing the info.

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» RE: italin worked for me Posted by: harryf200
» RE: italin worked for me Posted by: blitzmesser
» Phonics worked for me! Posted by: countingdaisies
» RE: Phonics worked for me! Posted by: blitzmesser
KeLeMi
Posted by: KeLe on Jun 23, 2009 5:46 AM   
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Are these steroids for the brain? Use at your own risk.

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....but the children!!
Posted by: Cory.Goodman on Jun 23, 2009 6:49 AM   
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Wow! I never thought that I, of all people, would be making a "but the children" argument about drug policy, but I think forcing speed down our children's throats to make them "smarter" is beyond ridiculous. I hope that this article is just a farce, to spark debate.

Ok, legalizing marijuana clearly would not turn our children into potheads, but forcing them to take speed clearly WILL turn them into speed addicts, no question. These are some of the most addictive drugs on the planet. Not only will they learn to strive for some unattainable notion of "success", but they will require these drugs for the rest of their lives, or else major rehabilitation to kick the habit. Ridallin and Aderall don't just make you concentrate harder, they make you get more agressive, frustrated, drive faster (I quit taking aderall in college because I found that I was completely unable to drive a "mere" 80 on the interstate, I would be going a comfortable speed and someone would mention "dude you are going almost 100mph!"). Many times they also can lead to sexual dysfunction.

If refusing to give my children speed, at some point, turns them into a "loser" by societal standards, then that is what they will be and I will make sure they understand why. But when they look at their friends and see emaciated wraithish speed-addicted robots, I don't think I will have to explain much more.

I am sure this is just some total bs idea cooked up by big pharma and published by alternet to spark controversy, but I do think that it is a good idea to reaffirm why a society growing more and more dependent on pharmaceuticals to "get ahead" is never a good thing.

I am not saying, though, that use of these drugs by college students requires some kind of crackdown, far from it, I think they can be a decent study aid for responsible adults. I might even agree to legalizing them for people 18+ as otc meds, and ofcourse kids with legitimate conditions should not be denied. But there must be an education campaign, and we should all understand the risks associated with them, and REQUIRING anyone without a medical condition to take them should, ofcourse, be strictly prohibited.

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It's not the drug but the rationalizations that seem dangerous
Posted by: james108 on Jun 23, 2009 6:56 AM   
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When people convince themselves they are genetically impaired and need a drug, because a doctor prescribed it, that is extremely dangerous. Some people can fall into this delusion that friends have no common sense advice value because a doctor has reduced their issues to his pharmacopoeia. It can create a chemical based helplessness, where some try to rationalize everything in terms of their neurons. It can get pretty silly, if it wasn't so sad.
Aside from that, many of us take a cup of coffee or jack daniels, and it is little different, except stronger and prescribed by a doctor.

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We wish to improve ourselves...
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Jun 23, 2009 7:43 AM   
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I frankly don't see anything wrong with an adult choosing to take performance enhancing mental drugs. It is their body, it should be their choice.

I don't think adults should be forced to take these drugs nor should children (real conditions like ADHA aside).

But I have to say, use of performance enhancing drugs, mental and physical, reminds me of the Borg.

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» RE: We wish to improve ourselves... Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
Nootropics
Posted by: jejer on Jun 23, 2009 7:46 AM   
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The stimulants discussed in this article no only destroy neural pathways, but blunt the pleasure respones. The real smart drugs of today called nootropics ie. piracetam, aniracetam, picamilon, alpha gpc, lecithin, pyritinol have no side effects and seem to even boost healthy individuals brainpower.....these are the ones that should be discussed.
some addictive, narcotic stimulant that are being discussed in this article have no place in the future of brain drugs becasue of the damage they cause, and discussing them in this light seems pretty irresponsible to me when there are more powerful, nonaddictive, less side effect profiled alternatives

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Dangers of "getting high" on this stuff
Posted by: nandtbearden on Jun 23, 2009 8:37 AM   
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http://tinyurl.com/cm4b75

From The New Yorker

Brain Gain
The underground world of “neuroenhancing” drugs.
by Margaret Talbot

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Why are synthetic drugs better than natural herbs?
Posted by: kettleblack on Jun 23, 2009 9:20 AM   
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The effects that people are looking for, can be found in nature's garden.
Coca leaves, not cocaine, give you the same boost as amphetamines.
Remember, coca was in the original Coca Cola recipe.
Khat is another indigenous herb of choice in North Africa, locals use to endure the tough environment.
But, these herbs are already outlawed in America.
They're just pushing a new wave of amphetamines. Freud endorsed cocaine.
Beware the long-term side effects.
I recommend that you adjust your lifestyle - the brain and body need some rest, too. When will you make the time to get off the gerbil wheel of life, to see where you are running?

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Where is the article on the Tobacco Bill???
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Jun 23, 2009 9:22 AM   
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Is Alternet ashamed that Democrats would push a bill banning flavored tobacco products? Showing once again Democrats are just as authoritarian in the drug war as Republicans?

With this new Tobacco bill (that one wouldn't know existed if they only read Alternet) clove cigarettes and other flavored cigarettes will be banned in 3 months.

We have Henry Waxman (D-CA), Edward Kennedy (D-MA), and Barack Obama to think for this stinking pile of dung legislation.

Way to go Democrats for widening the drug war.

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» RE: Where is the article on the Tobacco Bill??? Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
» RE: Tobacco is bad... Posted by: njguy73
What about "meta" drugs?
Posted by: Jaffe on Jun 23, 2009 9:57 AM   
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Asked by a forward-looking professor to write about Beckett, say, or Whitman or Emily Dickinson or Virginia Woolf, you don't want a "smart" drug but a soulful agent like peyote, psilocybin, maybe MDMA, if you wish to inhabit the text and possibly hold hands with Whitman (he would welcome that).

Caution: Use responsibly, don't drive. But if you do drive keep an eye out for the Man.

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» RE: What about "meta" drugs? Posted by: harryf200
leftbank
Posted by: markw4786 on Jun 23, 2009 10:15 AM   
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...but I can't buy a joint legally.

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Bad analogy
Posted by: Cybershaman on Jun 23, 2009 10:29 AM   
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Some experts have condemned the trend and accused students of gaining an "unfair advantage" by doping, without explaining why it is any more unfair than hiring a private tutor or paying for exam coaching.

Because it is the equivalent of using steroids or Human Growth Hormone, not hiring a tutor!

We can chemically force ourselves through the next phase of our evolution. There is evidence that the accidental ingestation of psychotropics were instrumental in humanities evolution.

But with stem cells we would inevitably begin manipulating our genetic makeup in order to produce enhanced offspring. Then we would start breeding specialized 'humans' that were genetically modified to be used like animals for specific job catagories. Possibly including 'sub-human' species to be used as our labor force.

Personally I would rather we not go into THAT dark night.

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ritalin?
Posted by: tazdelaney on Jun 23, 2009 10:33 AM   
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ritalin is a caffeine-based speed given to kids who've been diagnosed with the pseudo-illness add/adhd. considering a hyper-accelerated society in which the average adult consumes 18 teaspons of sugar or fructose daily and kids do up to 24 such teaspoons... a 16oz bottle of snapple is 10tsp fructose... maybe the way to get some focus from the sugar heebie-jeebies is just to stop with the OD on sugar and caffeine and videogames?

however, on serious mind-enhanement... in order to learn anything really new, at the physiological brain level, requires the ability to grow dendrites. in-depth studies have shown that nothing grows dendrites as readily as psychedelics. a distant second is music, then images, then way down the list is language.

furthermore, as mckenna, campbell and others note, the widespread native use worldwide, shamanism/animism, etcetera... that humans grew these massive cerebrums so rapidly over the past tens of thousands of years was likely just that – use of psychedelics.

truth is that the powers that be find well-educated, truthfully-informed public (jefferson's prerequisites for democracy), to be anathema and antithetical to their rule. america now ranks 49th in education, following bulgaria 48th...

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» RE: ritalin? Posted by: Defenestrator
» Deeper meaning Posted by: james108
» Check me Posted by: linecrosser
» RE: Check me Posted by: jumpr
Drugs aren't bad
Posted by: xmvince on Jun 23, 2009 12:58 PM   
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But becoming dependent on them to do good work is.

If that same student who took Ritalin every time he wrote a paper tried to write a paper without it, he would probably go crazy or do a terrible job.


So these people may be able to produce great work on their own time, but I doubt they will be able to continue taking these drugs throughout their careers producing that same quality of work.

Unless these chemical engineers can find a 100% safe drug (which I don't think really exists) then I don't think that mind enhancing drugs are a good idea.

On the other hand, mushrooms and LCD are very mind enhancing in my opinion and I have learned much and become a more mature adult after taking these psychedelics. So drugs that can improve yourself with a one or two time experience are great, but drugs you have to keep taking to produce the desired effects are dangerous roads to addiction and misery.

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Take with food if upset stomach occurs
Posted by: sirios on Jun 23, 2009 3:03 PM   
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The most shocking thing surrounding this article is Alternet accepting $ from drug companies hawking their latest version of ritalin [concerta] so that young boys can excel at little league. The fall of the Roman empire is as close as our next prescription.

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If these drugs made you smarter permanently without dependence and all the side effects fine
Posted by: RR#1 on Jun 23, 2009 7:38 PM   
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that would be enhancement, this doctor is using the term in a rather irresponsible fashion and his argument regarding evolution is false as it produces a dependency not a higher stage of evolution or freedom if freedom is to include independence which I think is a core goal/value for human beings professionals and nation states as well.

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By the way
Posted by: james108 on Jun 23, 2009 9:32 PM   
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The Obama admin is currently trying to set up a system where we can't have these conversations for some reason.
This is worse than not being able to say Oats are good for your heart.
They want the excuse to investigate and stop people from saying things they have not approved. They will use conflicts of interests as the excuse. I think we'd rather let everyone say their piece and leave it to common sense and investigation to find what's true. If the government is so concerned of people being told incorrect information, maybe they could set up their own faq site or something. They have no place to investigate anyone who makes a claim to determine if there's conflicts of interest, unless they're going to do the same with Bush & Cheney's oil interests, or the wall street and health care money Obama takes.
Even so, I trust the people and common sense before I trust the government to control what people can say.
I know it sounds innocent, but please trust me. This doorway is way worse than any gateway drug.

yahoo news

ftc to monitor blogs, with as little as an add link giving them jurisdiction

Only federally approved liars will be allowed. In traditional Obama fashion, I'm sure his people will get waivers to say whatever they want.

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Numbers sense and literacy
Posted by: ender on Jun 24, 2009 12:43 AM   
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Way back in the 1970s when the Earth first cooled to the tunes of Led Zep, electronic calculators had become cheap enough for some of my fellow elementary school students to have.

An argument at that time was made by the children: when you can just push a few buttons to multiply, why memorize multiplication tables?

The answer is to develop a "numbers sense" (or "math wisdom", if you will). A numbers sense tells you in an instant whether or not the answer you got from pushing buttons is correct or wrong. People without this numbers sense have no idea at all - not a clue - whether or not the answer should be closer to 10 or 10 million.

Our economy is in the toilet at least partly because too many people didn't have the numbers sense to understand their own mortgages. Some people are against universal health care because they can't follow the numbers the insurance companies are distorting. The federal reserve is spending massive amounts of money, but it's still only a tiny fraction of what we spend annually on defense. People with no numbers sense don't understand that. Still not a big deal?

The effect of not memorizing the fundamentals extends to language and to writing skills too.

Twenty years ago, people first asked, "What is the point of memorizing how to spell words when I just push a spellcheck button?" and, regarding penmanship, "Why memorize how to write letters legibly when I just push buttons on a keyboard?"

It's ironic that it doesn't take two long surfing the internet too find even hose whom make there living by writing whose works contain mis-spellings, use commoner misunderstood words incorrectly, bad grammar/punctuation/Capitols...

...and it's only been 20 years. That's a long way for the intelligence of the common folk to fall in such a short period of time.

Language is the universal currency of thought. So what does it mean for us when the fundamentals of expressing yourself are not made second nature? This recession is what happens when an entire society can't do math without a calculator.

BTW, the Chinese are drilling their kids on abacus use so they have a numbers sense AND they DON'T NEED the calculator.

It's only been 30 years and we've gone from every child in America possessing the critical thinking skills necessary to understand that "The Flintstones" was just a cartoon, to having an actual, honest-to-God "Science" museum with dioramas depicting human/dinosaur cohabitation and (I swear this is true!) one of the dinosaurs is WEARING A SADDLE.

That's not possible without a major dumbing down. But hey, let's say Fuck the fundamentals that have made western thought great for 3,000,000 years. I want to watch, "Ow! My balls!"

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if BigPharma can push a PROFIT, better keep WEED ILLEGAL!
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Jun 24, 2009 10:50 AM   
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wow,
pot -with millennia of mutual adaptation & its own psychoactive effects- grows WILD in the ditches, if we stop eradicating it.
&
its completely FREE.

But if you can PUT IT IN A PILL its okay... illegal if its growing in your yard or national park...

on the OTHER HAND:
Create an unstable, untested drug that 'makes you faster & smarter' & probably twitchy & freaked out... THAT'S A GOOD THING!!!
gotta LOVE the Ritalin!
PROFIT FOR THE CORPORATION & shareholders!
yahoooooo!

throw them hippies in jail!
they're doing their OWN self-medicating for their own purposes.

can't have THAT!


perspective, people.


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Long-term health issues are by biggest concern with
Posted by: Jdog on Jun 24, 2009 11:07 AM   
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these drugs. Otherwise, taking these drugs is really no different than taking any others.

I spent just over a year working on my master's thesis and spent a good deal of my productive time slightly stoned. Pot helped me think through and consider each aspect of my thesis in ways that complemented my "sober" approach. Did smoking pot give me an unfair advantage? Most would probably argue that it should have slowed me down...So my feeling is "whatever works."

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Need more HOW TO advice
Posted by: Cameo on Jun 24, 2009 2:54 PM   
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It is unclear what is even being discussed here. Are we talking about popping one pill for a particular test or about putting ourselves on these drugs permanently?

It sounds like the industry is studying a daily dose, whereas the high school student seemed to take a pill to write a paper but otherwise went to school without the drug.

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A new pair of glasses
Posted by: woofadoof on Jun 24, 2009 3:22 PM   
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Like others have mentioned, I was not diagnosied with ADD (without hyoer activity) untill my late 30's. I immediately missed my clownishness, spontanatiety or any other word that would point to my lightheartedness (sp). This however was short lived. Granted, my focus and attention to detail is remarkably sharp. My ability to complete a task is now a common occurence.

But the key is the diagnosis and the proper medication. For me, the effect was that of placing a new pair of glasses on. Everything was clear, I could see connections and my level of distraction is almost nonexistant.

I cant speak for others without ADD taking ritilan, adderal or the other medications listed in the article. Yet I have been told of speed like effects, haor raising, skin crawling and other syptoms closely associated with amphetamines, coke, crank etc.

My guess is that people with out ADD or Narcolepsy and take the chemicals mentioned will not have the therapeutic experiance as I have had. Now does that make these non ADD diagnoised individuals smarter, or more intellegent...I dunno, doesnt make sense. Now, would the medication keep the individual awake and focused enuff to spend the last hours before an exam cramming to save thier neck...You betcha!

But that begs the question...why didnt the student prepair all during the semister and ensure their readiness? Beer, XTC, sex and other collegate party favors may have been at fault.

Because the medication works for me, and scores of others I know personally and thru the internet. Why should the medication be scutinized and possibly harm those whom they work for.

And as the addiction claims made. In the 10 years I have be prescribed Ritilan and Adderal, there have been times I have run out and found myself unable to get to the Dr. or otherwise fill my prescription. I NEVER, ever experianced any form of withdrawl syptoms, never any irritability, anxiousness, depression, muscle aches or any other of the symptoms attributed to these medications by privious responders...

just my 2 cents

woofadoof

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why???
Posted by: alexanderosterhagen on Jun 25, 2009 4:53 AM   
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All these stimulators are not giving anything to your body. They just stimulate the production of what you have already stored in your body.
Everyone knows that a human brain is used at maximum 10% of it's surface for learning and cognition. these drugs just promote a more excessive usage of your brain, they don;t make you wiser, they just force you to work harder. if you normally can't sit for longer than 1 hour to study something then on this drugs you just force yourself to do this.
Smart drugs for students and scientists are the same as steroids for athletes.
Once the steroid gets in your body you begin working harder than normally so you enhance your performance.
I accept their usage only for professional athletes the same as the smart drugs should be used optionally for professional purposes and achievements in science.
The question is> "Why the most important scientific inventions and works have been done the last few hundred years with no drugs and no stimulants and in present , when we have plenty of them there are less and less grandious things discovered? I'm sure there are still plenty unknown things to discover"

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Thanks.
Posted by: blitzmesser on Jun 29, 2009 8:52 PM   
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Now I know what to get in addition to what I am already using and have been using for years.
I am all for enhancing my consciousness or ability to concentrate.
After all: some people like plain vitamins.
What is the difference?

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