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Should the Government Protect People's Health or Insurance Companies' Profits?

By Dean Baker, AlterNet. Posted March 10, 2009.


It's time for the government to prioritize the wellbeing of people over the wellbeing of insurance companies.
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We all know that people have different ideologies about the proper role of government. Some people, who tend to be left of center, think that the government's role is to try to promote the general good, by providing basic services, protecting the poor and the sick, and ensuring a well-working economy. On the other hand, there are others, who usually place themselves right of center, who believe that the proper role of government is to redistribute as much income as possible to the wealthy.

These competing views of government are coming to a head in the debate over national health care reform. Those who think that the role of government is to serve the public good are likely to favor some form of universal Medicare. Such a system would almost certainly save a huge amount in administrative costs at the level of insurers, providers and government oversight.

Private insurers spend more than 15 percent of the money they collect in premiums on administrative costs. By contrast, Medicare spends about 2 percent. Part of the insurers' administrative expenses go toward marketing -- an expense that would be unnecessary in a universal Medicare system.

The other major factor driving administrative costs with private insurers is associated with their efforts to game the system. Gaming is the best way to make profits in the current system. If insurers can find effective mechanisms for either keeping sick people from being insured, or finding ways to deny coverage for expensive care, then they stand to make large profits. Naturally, profit-maximizing insurers will therefore devote substantial resources to trying to avoid ways to provide health care to people who need it.

At the level of providers, the wide range of divergent forms and policies employs hundreds of thousands of people in administrative positions in hospitals, doctors' offices, nursing homes and other providers. These people are often quite adept at dealing with various insurers, which is an important skill in our current system, but a task that would disappear if we had a universal Medicare system.

Finally, the state and federal governments must devote substantial resources for oversight to police the practice of insurers. Oversight agencies are essential for limiting abuse. This task would be much simpler if there were not corporations that stood to profit by keeping people from getting needed care.

While we could in principle shift to a universal Medicare system immediately, this would be an extremely difficult task politically and would present some serious practical problems as well. During his campaign, President Obama proposed something far more modest: give employers and individuals the choice to buy into a public Medicare-type program. Under this system, if people are happy with their current health care insurance, they would have the option to keep it. However, if they decided that the plan offered by the government was better, they could buy into it.

In this situation, insurers would compete with the government plan in the market. If private insurers could offer health insurance that provided better coverage or charged less, then people would have the option to buy into a private plan. Of course, the government would also regulate the market so that private insurers could not cherry-pick their way to profitability by insuring only healthy people and dumping them when they became sick.

The insurance industry already recognizes that it will lose out in this sort of competition. A government-run plan will be more efficient. We already know this based on the experience with Medicare. When private insurers have competed side by side with the traditional government Medicare plan, in the absence of government subsidies, the overwhelming majority of beneficiaries opted to go with the traditional Medicare plan.

This is why the insurers are yelling that they don't want to face "unfair" competition from a government plan. But, their complaint should be all the endorsement that the public needs to support a public Medicare-type plan. The public plan will be cheaper and better than what the private insurers have to offer. Why shouldn't the public then have this option?

We all know that the insurance industry executives and the company shareholders want to make lots of money, but maybe they should try to find an industry where they can compete. If the government can provide health insurance better and cheaper, then why do we need private insurers?


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Dean Baker is co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research.

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america is still in the stone age on health insurance
Posted by: masthead on Mar 10, 2009 9:31 AM   
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"If the government can provide health insurance better and cheaper, then why do we need private insurers?"

exactly. the only problem is that you'd still have a lot of law-makers, of both parties, and shoot-themselves-in-the-foot citizens bellowing, as they always do, "socialism" and "and we don't want no stinkin' welfare society like them thar europeans" whose society, by strange coincidence, isn't falling apart or lost its moral compass because of it. the european economy is the better for it too since it cost the state less in the long run. yet with all these imaginary troubles we create, we still have a welfare society regardless. black holes called homelessness and poverty where sometimes getting sick puts many people there in the first place who couldn't afford the high premiums which support the health care ceos to take vacations in their private vacation homes all over the world.

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» "conservative values at the individual level may be health promoting" Posted by: Illuminatus- Enlightend Classic Liberal
"a lot of"
Posted by: Gregsdiary on Mar 10, 2009 3:49 PM   
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"the only problem is that you'd still have a lot of law-makers, of both parties, and shoot-themselves-in-the-foot citizens bellowing, as they always do, "socialism" and "and we don't want no stinkin' welfare society like them thar europeans"

That's not the problem at all. That "a lot of" bullshit.

The "extremely difficult task politically" is another way of saying that the insurance industry and their allies that give politicians all that money said "no" to single-payer.

So the "serious practical problems" would be our duly elected Democrats having to refuse the people that pay them. The "practical" chances of that are nil.

As for the idea of "choice" Baker mentions--this is actually how Obama and the Democrats avoid making choices--by leaving them up to the "market" to decide.

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» not "a lot of" bullshit Posted by: masthead
Exactly Right !
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 11, 2009 12:37 AM   
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"If the government can provide health insurance better and cheaper, then why do we need private insurers?"

But alas, poor Dean Baker cannot be seen to mention John Conyers House Bill HR 676 or Medicare for All ... nor the hundred millions of people that are under and uninsured ....

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Insurance Companies and Big PhRMA are Both On the Ropes
Posted by: drricklippin on Mar 11, 2009 4:33 AM   
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Both Big Insurance Companies and Big PhRMA have lost significant credibility with the American Public. Do you know anyone who trusts either sector? Do you know anyone who doesn't fight with their health insurance company?

However,respectfully,Dean Baker doesn't undertand the following-

We need much more emphsasis on more-

- primary care
- home care
- chronic disease management
- prevention
- public health
- ethical and compassionate rationing especially at the end of life

Dr. Rick Lipin
Southampton,Pa

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Instead of this phoney "stimulus" package, priority should have been given to healthcare but
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Mar 11, 2009 4:41 AM   
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the trick here is that by the time they even give single payer a chance, they'll leave it dry of even the small funding. Besides, with the current White House and Congress giving more priorities to expanding wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan and getting ready for more Wall $treet bailouts and phoney "stimulus" packages that really dole out welfare checks to millionaries but screw the poor and middle class folks, don't expect the gubbmint to side with the people on this issue.

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About Dean Baker and THE MILLIONS
Posted by: SinglePayerActivist on Mar 11, 2009 4:52 AM   
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"poor Dean Baker"?? Dean Baker is the person who did and perhaps still does the economic calculations for John Conyers' office and related to H.R. 676.

About the millions that you wanted to see:

42% of Americans under age 65 are either uninsured or underinsured. That's 47 million uninsured + 81 Million underinsured, which is incredibly a little over 40% the country!

So about 60% of people in the U.S. have health insurance coverage to help them get medical care that could easily result in horrible outcomes as seen in Real Life Stories of Americans in the U.S.

Compare that to other industrialized countries (over 25 of them are also "free-market" countries like the U.S.) that provide a non-profit way to pay for health care the gives everyone health insurance with no fear of ever receiving any large medical bills. As indicated in Americans' experiences in those other countries.

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MASSIVE ACTION BY CITIZENS
Posted by: SinglePayerActivist on Mar 11, 2009 5:18 AM   
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Oops, I reacted to a comment, and now I see why folks are reacting to Dean Baker.

Holy cow, Dean Baker! Don't you know what's coming down in 2009? We as the people and we as the country need Medicare for All NOW

There are simply too many people dying unnecessarily every day: over 200 per day. For those who think that our health care is as good as Australia, France and Japan, then it's 277 per day as seen here. Many Americans reporting their experiences: very negative in the U.S. and very positive in other countries.

Let's change a key statement of yours: we can and will shift to a universal Medicare system immediately. We, the people, are about to launch a massive campaign that will make this action an extremely easy task politically and will solve serious practical problems as well. By April 1 you can read about the massive campaign and participate in it. It will take some more hours during March (with help from persons all over the USA) to make the activity as easy and simple as possible. More coming by April! Put it on your calendar to take a look at Medicare for All on April 1. THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE MOST MASSIVE AND MOST SUCCESSFUL GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGNS THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER SEEN. We are sick and tired of the decades of inaction from a world view.

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Insurance companies are twice as bad as the author thinks.
Posted by: wolfgangmo on Mar 11, 2009 5:19 AM   
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Hi. I own a medical clinic that no longer takes insurance for various reasons that I have posted about before. I have been tracking private medical insurance facts for about a decade.

I have one main correction to make. The ONLY source that says that private insurance administrative costs are as low as 15% is the insurance industry itself.

More credible sources like the New England Journal of Medicine, the GAO, Wall Street [say what you will about them but they recognize greed and kickbacks when they see them] and even the CATO institute peg that figure at closer to an average of 27%.

An average means that some of them are lower and some of them are higher, but if taken as a whole they use up 27% in overhead costs such as marketing and hiring lots of people to figure out how to say NO to you, me, your aunt Mertle, and your buddies down at the bar.

They are twice the crooks the author gives them credit for.

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» Thrice and more, even Posted by: bthespoon
Worth Your While to See the WORLD VIEW
Posted by: SinglePayerActivist on Mar 11, 2009 5:27 AM   
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If you click on any of the links in my posts this morning (and I hope you select all of them), then at least be sure to see at least that web page with the chronological world view of activity.

People tell me that there's lots of good info at www.medicareforall.org, but that web page has information that all of us should know.

The timeline of around-the-world activities has impacted our businesses, our jobs, our health, our lives, and our overall economy.

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Let Them Prove It
Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Mar 11, 2009 5:57 AM   
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The insurance industry already recognizes that it will lose out in this sort of competition. A government-run plan will be more efficient.

We have been hearing for decades now that the private sector is so much more efficient than the government can ever be. It is great that the Obama health plan will give the private insurers a chance to prove it. Let the private insurance companies compete in a head-to-head competition with a plan like medicare and let them show how much more efficient they are.

If they are so much more efficient, the insurance industry should have no problem offering better service at lower cost and they will win the public's business. How can they not be anxious to show the government plan up for the inefficient, costly plan that they say it will have to be.

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Beware of the so-called "public plan"
Posted by: SinglePayerActivist on Mar 11, 2009 6:20 AM   
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The politicians' reference to a so-called "public plan" could be a huge deception being thrust at us. A twisting of the truth, just like "universal health care" is now a set of meaningless words.

For example, I could hardly believe my ears when I heard Tom Daschle make a reference to "what Congress gets" at the very public (televised) hearing recently (for him being considered for H.H.S. Secretary). He equated the planned public plan to what the members of Congress get.

If his words in that regard are the accurate definition of the "public plan" then you can start choosing one of the possible negative words about what is occurring: lies or deception or misleading the public or whatever word(s) you feel is appropriate. Read on ...

What Congress gets is the FEHBP, which is a selection of plans from health insurance companies! This is FOR-profit, not NON-profit! This is PRIVATE, not PUBLIC!

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» RE: Beware of the so-called "public plan" Posted by: LaughingModerateIndependent
Madame Riverotter
Posted by: Madame Riverotter on Mar 11, 2009 6:57 AM   
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This article isn't telling us anything that we haven't already known for at least the last 20 years. Insurance companies have been running the medical fields and our so-called "managed-care" until people who are ill can't get the care they truly need without having to jump through hoops -- that is unless one is in the top 20% of the income bracket and can afford the top rate insurance.

Case in point Wisconsin Blue Cross/Blue Sheild. We cannot get certain ulcer drugs even though our doctors specifically order them; it takes weeks for cortisone shots to be authorisized for my spouse's knees; and blood pressure pills without insurance cost over 300$.

We're caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place, between Insurance Companies who want only profits and Drug Companies who want the Same. Doctors aren't being taught to have a bedside manner and Nurses are run off their feet. Something has to change. Will the government make it better? Considering all the corruption there...probably not.

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» RE: Madame Riverotter Posted by: SinglePayerActivist
People need to raise their voices.
Posted by: Laura H. on Mar 11, 2009 10:11 AM   
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The insurance industry is dumping a ton of money into this reform so that they don't get left out. They employ a swarm of lobbyists, make huge political contributions, and fund a ton of anti-government propaganda. The propaganda is a serious influence that we need to confront. Read this quote for the 1928 book Propaganda, and think about how this effects our Democracy.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our government." ~ Edward Bernays

This is a for-profit service available to anyone who can afford it. It was very powerful back when TV was high tech and people had to go to the library to research anything, but the world has changed.

The insurance industry would like to pass mandates that employ our government to extract their profit from the people, and tax the rich to pay for the profit that they couldn't extract from the poor. These are not typical Republican values, and I don't think they would support it if they knew what they were supporting. It's not true support though, it's irrational opposition to single payer, created by fear and disinformation. And it makes them very difficult to talk to. The 'Right' is not the source of the propaganda

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» cont... Posted by: Laura H.
Conservatives Help Insurance Companies Have More Profits
Posted by: nobyjingo on Mar 11, 2009 7:09 PM   
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Liberals help people have health care.

In Oklahoma, so many people who need health care buy the conservative trope that they are all conservative, then insurance companies CEOs, etc. get the profits with the peoples blessing, and the people get no health care; and even complain that they don't have health care, but while desperately needing health care still vote in Republicans apparently thinking they are conservatives who have lots of capital to protect, while they are nothing but a part of the common population that the real conservatives think are mean, vile and vulgar.

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Why I belive Obama is against HR 676
Posted by: allenhip on Mar 13, 2009 8:05 AM   
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From Allen Robbins
My evaluation of HR 676

Actually H.R. 676 has been around since the 1940’s. Back then it was called the Prepaid Group Practice System. Subscribers (NYC workers about 750,000) had their health covered with no-co pays and no-deductibles and no claim forms, FULL COVERAGE and free drugs were added in the late 1960’s. The 750,000 members generated about 2.5 million office visits annually. This means that the new 47 million people will generate 155 million office visits annually to an already overburdened (112,000 GP physicians and 588,000 specialists) health care system. Physicians could see 10 to 12 patients an hour as compared to 5 to 8 patients now seen at some very busy offices.

H.R. 676 has already been tried in New York for NYC Employees and shown to be documented failure.

HIP of New Jersey-Failed, HIP of Florida-Failed and now HIP was forced to merge with GHI.

Example: HIP of NY started in 1947 and by the early 1960’s so many complaints from the rank and file union people that were complaining and requested the City of New York to offer more choice. The Group Health Insurance plan was included as a choice for all city workers. The biggest complaint about HIP (HR676) was too many people had to wait three months for an annual checkup. This is one of many reasons why we cannot repeat the same errors again.

NOTE: Medicare now is a comprehensive health system and most members do not want to be forced to change there insurance plan or doctor. They represent one of the largest voting blocks, which you do not want to anger. A great many Labor Union jobs that would also be lost, estimated in the ten’s of thousands and in today’s economy that is unacceptable. No co-pays and no deductibles always lead to abuses and over utilization of services and longer wait times. A limit of say $15.00 co-pay or deductible should be enough to lower some abuses.

I believe we can move forward in small steps. Because of the condition of the economy we must find ways that won’t cost the taxpayer any additional tax burden and save jobs. We also need Universal Health Care Single Payer system without having massive layoffs (est. 500,000+), which is covered on Page 20 of HR 676.

Our current economic concerns include the national debt, Social Security, corporate debt, mortgage debt and falling house prices. We cannot afford HR 676 to add to our current massive unemployment.

There is currently only one group of physicians with 14,000 members supporting HR 676. What about all the other doctors? What about 700,000 physicians nation wide? A recent study showed that 59% of Doctors support a single payer system not necessarily supporting HR 676.

What if large numbers of Physicians don’t join and we start seeing $150 dollar per office visit? That could be a real possibility; I hope I’m wrong. We can’t force doctors to join.

To my fellow Democrats:

Please do not embarrass President Obama with the first possible VETO of his presidency. In an interview Obama said HR 676 is the following, “I’m not saying everything about HR 676 is bad, but the FUNDING MECHANISM IS FATALLY FLAWED” In this same interview Obama says “no one should be forced to sign up for insurance”. This is why we all should support Barack Obama’s Plan for a Healthy America even if it means letting go of HR 676.

I’m for a single payer health care system that resembles the Federal Employee Health Benefit Program (FEHBP).

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Incremental Approach
Posted by: Jo1028 on Mar 16, 2009 2:30 PM   
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I firmly believe that a single payer system for health care is the most effective reform, but the unintended consequences of moving too fast in reform must be considered. Insurance companies employ hundreds of thousands of people and imagine the unemployment if they all get dumped on the breadlines in one fell swoop. That's why an incremental approach in these times is the only way to go.

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