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Sanjay Gupta: What the Next Surgeon General Doesn't Know About Pot

By Russ Belville, NORML. Posted January 8, 2009.


The next surgeon general needs to stop putting politics before science. Gupta may not be ready for that.
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If Dr. Sanjay Gupta is picked for the post of surgeon general, he would become the nation's leading medical advocate. His experience in the media would be beneficial in bringing the Surgeon General's office back to the prominence it held when C. Everett Koop was successfully battling tobacco smoking.

But is Gupta ready to deliver the Obama administration's promised end to the politicization of science and medicine? More specifically, will Gupta toe the federal line that cannabis is lacking in any medical value, or will he recognize what 13 states and the past 12 years of research prove -- that cannabis is a beneficial medicine for some people and an intoxicant far less harmful than alcohol for others?

In 2002, Gupta was more than willing to echo the outrageous claims that smoking pot would lead to psychosis, depression and schizophrenia:

But the three studies you are talking about talk specifically about schizophrenia and depression, and the fact that marijuana use earlier in life actually may lead to an increased -- 30 percent increase -- in schizophrenia later in life.

Depression, also a very big diagnosis -- roughly 18.8 million in this country have it. Again, they looked this time at 1,600 high school students and followed them over about seven years. This is in Australia, not in the United States. But they actually found that all of these boys and girls, particularly girls, were more vulnerable to the symptoms of depression later on in life, again if they were frequent or even daily marijuana users.

I hope that the next surgeon general has been following the research on cannabis and mental health since 2002. This year, Dr. Mikkel Arendt of Aarhus University in Risskov, Denmark, said that people treated for a so-called cannabis-induced psychosis "…would have developed schizophrenia whether or not they used cannabis."

I hope that Gupta has kept up with the journal Schizophrenia Research and the research published there last year by the London's Institute of Psychiatry, which found no statistically significant "differences in symptomatology between schizophrenic patients who were or were not cannabis users," found no "evidence that cannabis users with schizophrenia were more likely to have a family member with the disorder" and that these findings "argue against a distinct schizophrenic-like psychosis caused by cannabis," authors concluded.

Regarding depression, in 2006, researchers at Johns Hopkins University's Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore found "that the associations observed between marijuana use and subsequent depression status may be attributable not to continued marijuana use, per se, but to third (common) factors associated with both the decision to use marijuana and to depression."  In fact, the year prior, researchers at USC had found among cannabis smokers, "those who used once per week or less had less depressed mood, more positive affect and fewer somatic (physical) complaints than non-users," and that "[d]aily users [also] reported less depressed mood and more positive affect than non-users."

Or we could just ask the incoming surgeon general to apply some common sense.  If smoking cannabis is a strong predictor of future depression or schizophrenia, then shouldn't there be a spike in the reporting of those conditions around 1978, when 37 percent of high school seniors reported past-month cannabis use, and a decline in depression and schizophrenia around 1992, when the modern low of 12 percent was reported? Instead, what we find is that about 1 percent of the population develops schizophrenia, and that figure stays relatively steady even as cannabis use rises and falls.

In 2006, Gupta was penning the article "Why I Would Vote No on Pot" for Time magazine as Colorado and Nevada had non-medical-cannabis-regulation ballot measures pending. It doesn't seem like he's been following the past two decades of research:

I'm constantly amazed that after all these years -- and all the wars on drugs and all the public-service announcements -- nearly 15 million Americans still use marijuana at least once a month.


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Do we need another spokesman for Big Pharma in the White House?
Posted by: georgekat on Jan 8, 2009 2:11 AM   
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Gupta is an apologist and spokesperson for pills and vaccines of dubious quality:
http://www.naturalnews.com/025267.html

As this article points out, Marcia Angell would make a wonderful Surgeon General. She is former Editor-in-Chief of the New England Journal of Medicine and author of several books, in which she delineates the corruption of the pharmaceutical industry.

Of course, Obama feels he has to offer "pay-back" for all that money he received from the industry.

But really why pick a celebrity?
Someone entirely lacking gravitas.

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Gupta's Reckless Reporting
Posted by: americansheep on Jan 8, 2009 3:10 AM   
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I would say that Gupta is a piece of the puzzle that does not fit into Obama's new "outside the box" administration... but I won't because maybe he DOES fit in just perfectly considering the other appointees. He is not for pot, it seems, and he picked apart Michael Moore's "Sicko" in his report on CNN, recklessly charging Moore's statistics were wrong as he defended the present inadequate U.S. health system (as if he sees no need to make a change there). His libelous lies that CNN (the one-time long ago now faded shining star) allowed on the air have been shown to be just that: lies. (These are refuted on the michaelmoore.com website). So it looks like Gupta will be a perfect fit in the puzzle that is the Obama team.

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» RE: Gupta's Reckless Reporting Posted by: sunnywater
unfreeinus
Posted by: losingmyliberties on Jan 8, 2009 4:42 AM   
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Just look at most Americans, picture of health.

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» RE: unfreeinus Posted by: thesbrian
» RE: unfreeinus Posted by: losingmyliberties
Prof Bob
Posted by: ProfBob on Jan 8, 2009 5:05 AM   
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1. With the half life of Delta 9-THC at 7 to 10 days, driving might be contraindicated for at least a week. Alcohol's half life is hours--but its negative effects on driving seem to last a day or two. So driving is certainly a factor to consider.
2. Being fat soluble the negative effects are duration linked, not dose linked as in many drugs. This might also affect driving for a long period after the last use.
3. Wherever marijuana is the best medicine for the illness, it is a strong reason for its use, but other palliatives seem equally effective without the intoxicating effects.
4. The THC dosage in 1978 that the high schoolers were smoking was usually in the 0.5 to 1.0%. The doses now are far higher, often in the 5 to 12% range. This might have different effects on the user.
5. Much more research is needed. Just as aspirin can reduce a headache or prevent a heart attack, it can also cause serious gastric bleeding. Few medicines are all good or all bad.

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» Driving with pot Posted by: thesbrian
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» RE: Prof Bob Posted by: WillieD
GUPTA IS NOT THE CHANGE WE NEED
Posted by: drricklippin on Jan 8, 2009 5:31 AM   
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Gupta's adovates are saying that his excellent well-honed professional communication skills renders him eminently qualified for US Surgeon General

I agree that Gupta is an excellent communicator. But big questions are-


-What does he really stand for?
-What are his core values?
-What are his priorities?


It seems that he reports on anything and everything? And seems very tied to much of what is wrong with US Organized Medicine and those who profiteer from it by daily headline?"

The fundamental criteria for Surgeon General is have the moral fiber and backbone to fight for science and values based public health for all American's (That IS the job!)

Gupta is not the change we need?

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
ralippin@aol.com

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Famous, well-known household names
Posted by: newsound on Jan 8, 2009 6:01 AM   
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While we're at it, let's make Larry King director of the FCC. Or, how about Wolf Blitzer to head the INS?

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Not just a marijuana problem
Posted by: Erin on Jan 8, 2009 6:27 AM   
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Sanjay Gupta is also against a single payer health plan, and is for pharmacutical comapanys making lots of money on the sick and dying.

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Sanjay Gupta is a DISGRACE to America and India in one !!
Posted by: maxpayne on Jan 8, 2009 7:09 AM   
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My wife cannot stand his silliness on the tellie but if I show her this article, she'll hate him even more. Hemp can be used to make better clothing, food, medicine, and plenty of other stuff and it replaces petroleum 100% ! If China and India were replacing petroleum with hemp, they wouldn't be drowning in environmental and economic damages these two countries are sinking into. And the more India relies on fossil fuels and shuts off the idea of INDUSTRIAL HEMP, the more terrorist attacks she will endure !! Mr. Gupta, my wife's parents and my parents may praise you but you have earned our contempts !!

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Gupta's a "FAST TALKER".......
Posted by: picket on Jan 8, 2009 7:11 AM   
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I watched the Larry King SICKO discussion on You Tube, Gupta vs Michael Moore and it reminded me of the Seinfeld's episode... Krammer's fast talking lawyer.
A++++ qualification for Gupta.... he is more a politician than most the "fast talker"..."to influence or persuade by fluent,and usually deceptive or tricky talk."

Shame on Obama OR the team, WHATEVER. Gupta is not for us !!!!!

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In response to Prof. Bob and more
Posted by: Naty on Jan 8, 2009 7:41 AM   
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1.) No, the chemical stays in your system for a long time, but it is no longer significantly active on the brain (I wish!). Only after heavy, prolonged use does one still feel the effects for more than one day. Heavy, prolonged use of strong marijuana will cause me to feel "cloudy" in my mind for 24 hours, but I am not impaired. I may have an altered consciousness but am in no way mentally impaired, no more than when sleep deprived. I suffer every few months from severe sleep deprivation, and if I have no marijuana (I refuse to use pills) then I will literally go 3 days with 12 hours sleep. This is a greater threat to society (flicking off other cars... driving recklessly out of anger and sleep deprivation) than smoking pot to sleep. It is truly a medicine.

2.)There's truth to the fat solubility premise in my experience (in addition there is objective research to support this). I am extremely skinny so my tolerance does not build up quickly, yay! I do not believe marijuana impairs driving ability. True, if you are say, IQ 80 (borderline) and smoke a joint before driving then you are probably being really dumb. But if you're decently intelligent then pot will not impair your driving ability. I have never received a ticket for anything (once a received a ticket for the parking meter) and can't tell you how many times I've driven stoned and even right after smoking. I am 22 and drive a lot.

3.) The intoxicating effects is part of the medicine! Many homo sapiens have an innate desire to alter their consciousness.

4.) Actually the stronger the weed the better because:
-one needs to inhale less (less damage to the lungs)
-one needs less energy to produce the THC (it is more concentrated)
-it is easier to control the dose when each hit is strong and definitive

5.) I think marijuana has received more research then some pharmaceuticals. But that is only conjecture!

I am a philosophy major who smoked 1/8oz of marijuana per week last semester. I received an A in logic and wrote many assignments while high (I wrote a film analysis paper and got an A+ less than 24 hours after smoking). It was my best semester at school yet and I believe it was because I had the money and accesability to finally smoke regularly. It helps me to concentrate and stay happy! I am prone to massive depression and refuse all psychiatric medications, I have been recommended lithium for bipolar disorder by a psychiatrist I saw, I have racing thoughts. Marijuana helps me deal with my brain... helps slow the thoughts down.

Marijuana helps with my creativity... I have learned so much about music while high. It's like the music is suddenly stretched and I can visualize how the component parts fit together. It is almost painful at times how the music flows not just through my mind but through my body and reverberates through each cell while high (no, I'm not writing this while high... haha, haven't smoked in a while).

I love reading while high. In fact my favorite activities are reading, listening to music, watching intelligent movies, and taking nature walks while high. Lately I read politics while high because marijuana helps suspend disbelief and denial. So much of what is happening today is so unbelievable that it's difficult to believe and accept, marijuana helps me to overcome this barrier of denial. Highly productive activities!! Productive in the sense that I develop as a person both intellectually and emotionally.

continued....

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.....continued
Posted by: Naty on Jan 8, 2009 7:41 AM   
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And no I do not get the munchies. I have a low appetite as is, and marijuana helps increase it which is a good thing (for my skinny body) but I do not get the munchies. Also sometimes marijuana suppresses my appetite. It also wakes me up... if I smoke in the evening I will sometimes stay up till 1:00am since I forget that I'm tired and I get this sense of URGENCY to learn about the world and all its magical splendor and horrifying spectacle.



I even go jogging outside while high. I learn a lot about the movements in my body and find that HOW one runs is just as important as HOW MUCH one runs. My posture improves and I have this urgency to run smoothly and gracefully. I also get these urges while high to stretch out and get rid of tension. I have done total yoga workouts while high and the transformation in my soul after these sessions is phenomenal. I LOOK relaxed and FEEL compassion afterwards.



SO NOT POT DOES NOT MAKE ME INTO A LAZY, APATHETIC MEMBER OF SOCIETY. In fact quite the opposite is true.



When I read something difficult (especially philosophical stuff) I oftentimes smoke a little bit and walla! I understand it. And no it's not some metacognitive trick of thinking I understand the text, I truly do! When I return to the text later while not high I still understand it. By helping me appreciate from where the writer is coming from it allows me to "unlock" the author's approach and intention. The same with both music and film.



And no I'm not high right now :) I am a 22 year old female that does not look like a pothead at all. I eat extremely well, take care of myself, my family, and friends, and I REALLY REALLY care about life and have incorporated marijuana as a spiritual, intellectual, emotional, and artistic aid. I do not know why I have such a good relationship with this plant, even I am surprised! I am infinitely less nihilistic than most of the other postmodernist hedonists that make up a significant portion of western society.

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Scientist?
Posted by: talkville on Jan 8, 2009 7:42 AM   
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Gupta is no scientist; he is a wannabe Guru, a Maharishi; he is a preacher without vestments; he is, as an earlier comment pointed out, an Apologist, in the strict, religious reference of that term. No, he is no scientist, he is a Moralist who utilizes science and reason in the service of particular moral and authoritarian Powers.

The Corporate-State, as consolidated over the last 40 years, wants to teach us, to in-Doctrinate us in the "right way of being good little boys and girls"-- according to a very particular and self-designated 'divinely ordained' Order and Belief System.

Gupta will serve that System, not the people -- free citizens of a free country.

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» RE: Scientist? Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Scientist? Posted by: willymack
GUPTA
Posted by: sunlakedude on Jan 8, 2009 7:45 AM   
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Pot isn't the only thing Gupta is wrong about. His on-air tiff with Michael Moore concerning Moore's documentary Sicko shows that, in spite of working at a public hospital, he is an apologist for the status quo of U.S. healthcare. As surgeon general we need a reformer, someone who will champion single-payer national health insurance. I'm afraid there will be little if any healthcare reform with Gupta in that post.

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» RE: GUPTA Posted by: Lauren
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It's our own damn fault
Posted by: soulrebeljc on Jan 8, 2009 9:19 AM   
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Our society continues to elect politicians who, by and large, are spineless on this issue, regardless of whether their personal positions on pot tend towards legalization. Politicians still fear the excoriation that they will inevitably suffer at the hands of the religious right and other "do-gooders" who do not believe in personal freedom or science.

So start demanding that those who run for elected office represent what most of the public knows - pot is not harmful, in fact the laws prohibiting pot are far more detrimental in terms of lost productivity (workers in jail), destruction of family, government expenditures, etc ad nauseum. In fact, the laws themselves, in perspective, are criminal.

We are locking up from 400,000 to 700,000 for nonviolent drug offenses. There is undoubtedly racial profiling which compounds the negative effects on minorities, and particularly the poor who cannot afford a lawyer, pay their 'you done wrong' tax. I got busted for pot (1.3 grams!) in 96, paid my $500 for a lawyer, and got a 6month probation and a sealed record - because I was a white upper middle class college kid with no priors. Doubt that wouldhave happened if I was a poor hispanic kid working at Jiffy Lube. It's all bullshit. We should demand better from "the greatest country on earth."

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Sanjay Gupta is a media whore
Posted by: sonofloud on Jan 8, 2009 10:13 AM   
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who cares more about making money than about healing people.
He'll fit in just fine with Obama.

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Nominate Kumar of "Harold and Kumar Goes to White Castle"
Posted by: xvictor on Jan 8, 2009 10:43 AM   
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If you'd seen the flick u know who I'm talking. Yeah, him. best choice.

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The vision of Sanjay Gupta
Posted by: willymack on Jan 8, 2009 11:47 AM   
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Presented here, both by the article's author and letter writers alike, equate him to a televangilist, complete with a huge white pompadour, a white suit, white shoes, white socks, and a brilliant white smile. They're right to a point. Before either the televanglist or the doctor can sell a point of view, they have to sell THEMSELVES first. The Surgeon General is the head of the Public Health Service, a once-great organization which helped eradicate diseases like typhoid and cholera in this country.President Obama seems to be nobody's fool, and in my opinion wants to restore the PHS and the SG's job to their former glory. Sanjay Gupta seems to be just the man for that job.

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Forest through the trees
Posted by: Habaro on Jan 8, 2009 12:05 PM   
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I love how nobody ever questions the safety of cars themselves; just that which may or may not make cars extra dangerous. Hidden in plain sight.

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from the AP site.....Conyers opposes Gupta
Posted by: sonofloud on Jan 8, 2009 12:43 PM   
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- A key Democratic House member is rallying opposition to Dr. Sanjay Gupta becoming the next surgeon general, contending the 39-year-old CNN correspondent lacks experience.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., urged Democrats to sign onto a letter to President-elect Barack Obama urging him not to nominate Gupta, who is CNN's chief medical correspondent.

"It is not in the best interests of the nation to have someone like this who lacks the requisite experience needed to oversee the federal agency that provides crucial health care assistance to some of the poorest and most underserved communities in America," Conyers wrote in a letter released Thursday.

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gu p ta
Posted by: pacto on Jan 8, 2009 2:01 PM   
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this guy is a corporate lackey.

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Stupid Choice
Posted by: Gravitas on Jan 8, 2009 2:32 PM   
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I stretched myself when he chose Emanuel; someone I personally can't stand but gave the BofD nonetheless. But this is just too much. As someone trying to correct stereotypes surrounding fat people, I see Gupta as nothing more than a walking pharma commercial. I guess health care will be addressed like every other cause we have, the first priority will be to sure big business has its cut. We could have solved the Iraq problem in ways other than a war which allowed private contractors to help themselves to billions. We certainly could have tried other approach to the banking crisis than bailing out the greedy SOBs who created the mess. We can certainly improve the health of the nation through healthier organic food, exercise, and and acceptance that health comes in many sizes! But Gupta will make sure the stigma against fat kids will continuein order to swell the pockets of pharma's fat cats. Is it too late to move to Canada?

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» RE: Stupid Choice Posted by: peace'nbeach
Sanjay Gupta is...
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Jan 10, 2009 9:38 AM   
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...one more piece of evidence that points to a "nothing REALLY new, more of the same, politics" in the white house.

For those of you that have been smoking Obama for the past year, you are about to wake up to the worst hang over you ever had.

HOPE I am wrong in the future, but the man has not yet made a REAL progressive move since elected.

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Gupta
Posted by: TimLong on Jan 11, 2009 7:17 AM   
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This selection almost makes me wish I hadn't voted for Same.gov (as some have referred to Obama's "new" policies).

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» RE: Gupta Posted by: markw4786
leftbank
Posted by: markw4786 on Jan 12, 2009 4:48 PM   
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President Obama must decide NOW whether he supports science, and will act accordingly, or not. He also must decide whether he will surround himself with people of truth or not. Dr Gupta is a self serving dishonest politically driven man. From Senator Salazar (Interior Dept) to Gupta to Larry Summers to Bob Gates...and I thought I voted for change.

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peace'nbeach
Posted by: peace'nbeach on Jan 13, 2009 10:54 AM   
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Perhaps in Gupta's new position, he will look outside the box CNN has had him in.

There MUST be severe restrictions as to what an anchor/host may "say" during their employment whilst on-the-air, otherwise we would be hearing things quite differently than what is "reported".

I recall some of the comments made on-the-air during the 9/11 government exercise that were NEVER said or referred to AGAIN. The CEO's evidently did not get the memo out soon enough.
But since then, the past 7+ years of Bushco has had little serious criticism...........
I'm sorry...what was the question??

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SANJAY GUPTA: doesn't know what he is talking abou when he talks about marijuana
Posted by: seattle420lover on Jan 13, 2009 3:37 PM   
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SANJAY GUPTA: doesn't know what he is talking abou when he talks about marijuana

here's an example,



The first is that marijuana isn't really very good for you. True, there are health benefits for some patients. Several recent studies, including a new one from the Scripps Research Institute, show that THC, the chemical in marijuana responsible for the high, can help slow the progress of Alzheimer's disease. ( In fact, it seems to block the formation of disease-causing plaques better than several mainstream drugs. ) Other studies have shown THC to be a very effective antinausea treatment for people--cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, for example--for whom conventional medications aren't working. And medical cannabis has shown promise relieving pain in patients with multiple sclerosis and reducing intraocular pressure in glaucoma patients.

RIGHT THERE HE HAS CONTRADICTED HIM SELF!

(this issue means a whole lot to me because I am dealing with the after affects of a STROKE)


I have the info on two studies that he hasn't been keeping track of:

MARIJUANA IS VERY GOOD AT PREVENTING ALZHEIMERS!

and
it is very good for people who have suffered strokes!


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