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Patients v. Big Pharma: Supreme Court to Decide Landmark Case

By Niko Karvounis, Health Beat. Posted October 30, 2008.


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On November 3rd the Supreme Court will hear the case of Wyeth v. Levine, which has been called the "business case of the century" -- and with good reason. In essence, Monday's ruling will decide if patients have the right to sue pharmaceutical companies for personal injuries stemming from prescription drugs approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). This is the big one, folks.



First, the details of the case: In the spring of 2000, Diana Levine of Vermont received treatment for migraines which consisted of the painkiller Demerol and Phenergan, an antihistamine manufactured by Wyeth Pharmaceuticals. Phenergan is typically injected directly into the muscle or dripped into the vein through steady doses (a procedure called an "IV drip"). When administering the drug, clinicians must be careful not to expose it to blood in the arteries; doing so causes "swift and irreversible gangrene," to use an evocative phrase from a September New York Times article on Levine's case.



Unfortunately, the physician assistant who attended to Levine administered Phenergan neither through muscular injection nor IV drip, but through a process called "IV push" -- a direct intravenous shot in the arm. The assistant missed and hit an artery. Over the next few weeks, Levine, who was an avid guitarist, saw her right hand and forearm turn purple and then black -- until both were finally amputated.



The court battle is over whether or not Wyeth Pharmaceuticals sufficiently warned against the dangers of IV push on its packaging for Phenergan -- packaging that had been approved by the FDA. The drug's labeling did warn that it was preferable to give Phenergan through IV drip, and warned that "inadvertent intra-arterial injection" -- accidentally injecting the drug into an artery -- could cause "gangrene requiring amputation." But nowhere on the Phenergan label was there an express warning that the method of IV push is extremely risky for this very reason.   



In 2006, the Vermont Supreme Court upheld a jury decision in state court to grant Levine $6.7 million from Wyeth on grounds that the company should have more expressly prohibited IV pushing on the drug's labeling. Wyeth appealed, arguing that, because the packaging was FDA approved, patients had no right to question it through state laws. In effect, Wyeth claims that federal approval preempts state-based challenges to regulatory standards.

The Preemption Wars




This principle of preemption makes for one of the most heated and important Court cases in a very long time. Levine is really about more than just drug labeling: it's about whether or not the FDA can be second-guessed, even after a patient has been harmed by a product that the agency has approved.




Earlier this year, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld this principle in deciding that preemption applied to medical devices in the case of Riegel v. Medtronic. New Yorker Charles Riegel and his wife, Donna, brought suit against Medtronic Inc. after a catheter it had manufactured burst inside Riegel's coronary artery during heart surgery. In February, the High Court ruled against Riegel in an 8-1 decision.




When the Court announced its decision, I lamented Medtronic's victory as a "blank check" for medical device makers in that it effectively shields them from law suits once they manage to get FDA approval for their products. But the stakes around Levine are even higher -- in the words of the Times, Monday's case is the "next frontier" in preemption.




That's because, at its heart, Riegel was a question of statutory interpretation. In 1976, Congress passed a Medical Device Amendment to the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FDCA), the law that effectively created the FDA. This amendment expressly calls for preemption in the regulation of medical devices. As such, the Court's decision was relatively simple, albeit ultimately dangerous. In that case, the Justices pretty much just read the letter of the law.




But Levine isn't so cut-and-dried. There's nothing in the broader Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act that constitutes an express intent to preemption. There is no preemption clause. Thus, as NYU law professor Catherine Sharkey put it to the Times, Levine "challenges the court to define the parameters of preemption outside the safe confines of the legislators' text."




In other words, Monday's decision will decide if preemption is valid even when legislation doesn't explicitly call for it -- if, in effect, the way we regulate drugs in the United States of America prevents injured patients from bringing suits against drug companies that have FDA approval for their products.

Taking Sides




This case will make law. If the Court rules in favor of Wyeth, patients effectively lose their right to sue a drug company, even if its product harms them in an unexpected way. An FDA stamp of approval would essentially function as a shield from law suits. 




To the pro-business crowd, this sounds just peachy. In June, the Bush Administration, a long-time proponent of preemption, filed an amicus brief with the Court on behalf of Wyeth. The administration argued that the FDA's "thorough evaluation" of new drugs should not be questioned. The Bushies specifically note that, in approving a drug, the FDA strikes a particular balance between risks and benefits.  "[S]tate laws that strike a different balance" necessarily "conflict with the FDA's determination," they say, and in such a conflict the federal government's assessment should come out on top. Hence there's an "implied preemption" to all of the FDA's decisions.




The Chamber of Commerce also filed a brief urging the Court to rule against Levine, as did PhRMA, the pharmaceutical manufacturers association. PhRMA insists that the state tort laws that allow patients to sue drug companies pose "significant risks to public health and to FDA's ability to accomplish its mission." In PhRMA's view, a win for Levine would force "pharmaceutical companies to inundate the FDA with requests for labeling changes to ensure that federal regulators have been presented with every potential labeling permutation." In turn, this will supposedly "distract agency scientists from their core mission of reviewing the safety and effectiveness of prescription medications."




When the Bush Administration, the largest business lobby in the country and the drug industry are all arguing that we should respect the authority and integrity of federal regulators, you know something's up. And indeed it is: conservative forces know that the FDA is one of the most impotent federal regulatory agencies we have.




Earlier this year, a former legal counsel to the FDA estimated that the agency needed to double its budget and expand its staff by 50 percent in order to effectively regulate the $1.5 trillion worth of goods that falls under its purview. Strapped for resources, in recent years the FDA has instituted a "user fees" program through which drug companies pay extra to speed up approval of their products. Every year the agency hauls in close to $400 million -- or almost 20 percent of its total budget -- from this program. That's right: about one-fifth of the FDA is directly bankrolled by the prescription drug industry.




Most drug companies pay the fees for expedited approval, which means that the under-staffed, under-funded FDA is often scrambling to get approvals out the door. Last year an FDA insider told Health Beat that the mad rush for approval compromises the quality of the agency's oversight. According to the source, drug companies are "betting that, because [the FDA wants] to make the [expedited] deadline [for reviewing and approving new drugs], we won't send the application [for approval] back. If you find a problem or there is something missing [from the application] and it doesn't seem terribly material, there is a tendency to overlook it. Because if you don't it will just delay the whole process." Time pressures mean that FDA regulators "send [a drug submission] back [only] if it's really crappy."




It's no wonder that the drug industry is so eager to give the FDA the final word in drug safety: the agency is gradually becoming a rubber stamp factory that survives on corporate pharmaceutical money to operate. There's no easier regulatory process to navigate than the one you control. As Dr. Marcia Angell, a former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), recently told the Wall Street Journal: "the FDA has been given over to the industry it regulates."

An Inexact Science




Even if the FDA were operating efficiently and effectively, it would still be unreasonable to insist that its decisions preclude any future legal challenges to drug safety. In a commentary published earlier this month in support of Levine, the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) noted that "the drug and device regulation process is at best an inexact and incomplete science."




Indeed, no matter how honest FDA regulators may be, "the current approach of basing drug approval decisions on clinical trials of efficacy that include relatively small numbers of patients virtually guarantees that the full risks and complete safety profile of these drugs will not be identified at the time of approval." You can't really know what will happen when millions of people take a drug for years if you've only tested it on dozens of people over a few months. The FDA is a regulatory body, but it's not omniscient.




Moreover, because the Agency has been pushed to approve drugs as quickly as possible, many are "fast-tracked" through the agency. This means that they are rushed to market before there is time to know how patients who take it will fare over the long-term. In theory, manufacturers are supposed to continue long-term trials, and report the results to the Agency. But in practice many ignore this regulation, and the FDA doesn't have the funding to enforce post-market surveillance. So much for what the Bush administration calls the FDA's "thorough evaluation" of new drugs.




Drug companies are betting on the FDA's limited knowledge -- and are eager to limit it further. As the NEJM noted in a brief filed in support of Levine -- the first such document to have the full support of the publication's full roster of past and present editors -- "pharmaceutical companies...[often] learn about dangers caused by their drugs long before the FDA does...[and do not] disclose this information to the FDA."




Consider the case of Trasylol, a clotting drug used during heart surgery to prevent bleeding that was linked to increased probability of kidney damage and death. Bayer pharmaceuticals, the drug's manufacturer, knew that it was associated with severe kidney damage since the 1980s, but the company ignored this evidence and a steady stream of similar studies over the next decade. In 1993, the drug was brought to market and wasn't pulled from the shelves until November of last year, after the Canadian government had to stop large clinical trials of the drug because too many patients in the study group were dying.  Researchers estimate that 22,000 lives could have been saved had the drug been recalled sooner.




There's also Vioxx, Merck's blockbuster $2.5 billion painkiller. In 2001, company scientists discovered that patients who took their drug were at a threefold risk of death due to heart problems relative to placebo patients. They withheld this information from the FDA for two years before law suits began popping up around the nation and the drug was pulled from shelves in 2004.




Other examples: internal documents show that drug maker Eli Lilly consciously played down the risks of Zyprexa, a drug for schizophrenia that causes major weight gain in many patients, for years. In the late 1990s, court investigators found that Wyeth had known that its weight-loss drug cocktail of Pondimin and Redux was causing a rare heart valve disease on a much wider scale than had been reported to federal regulators.




These are just a few examples of how the drug industry conceal risks. As the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission noted in its June 2008 report to Congress, "researchers have shown that bias in industry-sponsored trials is common."




The problem is that the manufacturers control the trials of their own products. Big Pharma is virtually the only industry that is not subject to third-party evaluation of the safety of its products. Imagine if we let automakers oversee crash tests on new models, allowing the industry report results, as it sees fits, to the government and consumers. This would  never happen: we have the U.S. the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (funded by taxpayers) and  the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (funded by insurers) to run safety trials.




But in the case of drugs that have the power to kill or maim patients, drug makers themselves monitor the trials. Thus, when it comes to protecting patients, law suits and court orders have played a unique role in bringing the true dealings of drug companies into the light. Often, transparency and accountability must be forced on these companies through legal proceedings. As the JAMA commentary puts it, "tort law serves in effect as a way to close regulatory gaps in the FDA premarketing approval process and to provide a mechanism for postmarketing surveillance." But if the Supreme Court decides in favor of Wyeth, we're less likely to ever see internal documents that show what drug companies know and don't know at any given moment, because we'd see fewer court orders and fewer law suits.




It's hard to pinpoint how many personal injury law suits would be thrown out should the Court decide that FDA approval preempts any other claims that drugs are unsafe. The L.A. Times puts the number in the "tens of thousands" and JAMA says that such a "decision would likely result in thousands of lawyers defending drug manufacturers to file motions in state courts to dismiss plaintiffs' claims under preemption." Thousands of people like Diana Levine would lose their only recourse for redress.




This, of course, would be great news for Big Pharma, which spends billions on law suits every year. In 2005, Eli Lilly spent $700 million to settle 8,000 lawsuits over Zyprexa, Between 1998 and 2006, Wyeth spent $15 billion to resolve lawsuits over Pondimin/Redux. In November, Merck offered a $4.85 billion settlement to cover some 27,000 lawsuits over Vioxx, but only after spending $1.2 billion in order to get to the settlement stage. Some analysts expect the Vioxx debacle will ultimately cost the drug giant somewhere around $30 billion. This year Bayer announced that it faced 78 law suits in the U.S. over Trasylol. 




Do we really need all of these law suits to keep the prescription drug industry in check? Surely, even if the Supreme Court were to uphold preemption, medical research into prescription drugs would continue, and we'd find out what's safe and what isn't, right?




Wrong. As we've seen, if you leave truth-seeking only to company researchers, the drug companies will do all they can to ignore or suppress unpleasant results. And without the threat of legal action to serve as a deterrent to misconduct, poor clinical trials becomes little more than bad press. Drug companies are well-equipped to deal with the press: they spend about $57 billion a year on marketing -- almost twice what they spend on R & D.

The Blank Check




When the Supreme Court decides Wyeth v. Levine on Monday, it will effectively be deciding whether or not prescription drug companies get a blank check from the government. A victory for preemption will mean that, so long as a company can manipulate the FDA -- or cover-up the risks of its product -- it will never be held accountable for the harm its products and decisions cause patients around the country. An industry forecasted to hit $842 billion in sales in 2010 would be told that its only public safety hurdle is the FDA -- an toothless agency that operates on industry dollars.




Diana Levine's case is about much more than the wording of a drug label. It's about transparency and accountability, about industry's hold on the federal government, and about patients' right to protect themselves. Let's hope the Supreme Court makes the right decision.

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Niko Karvounis is a Program Officer with The Century Foundation in New York City, where he works on issues of socioeconomic inequality and health care. He is a regular contributor to Health Beat, the Foundation’s health care blog.

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The Sackler's/Purdue Pharma
Posted by: weathered on Oct 30, 2008 2:06 AM   
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the oxycotin family of fine addictions & dysfunctions have known for 14 yrs. the profound abuse of their drug, but they bought little Joey LIEberman lock, stock and barrel.

The Sackler's contribute to the arts and some took the Hippocratic Oath, so are they somehow above the consequence of tortious outcomes? No they're not.

This is a dark crime that conducts itself in broad daylight.

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Follow the money!
Posted by: jlohman on Oct 30, 2008 3:18 AM   
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Big Pharma has their own physicians sitting on the FDA review boards, and once they give a biased pass to the product they want a second pass in the courts. That they also spend $100 million per year on lobbying and campaign contributions that helps grease the wheels.

It does not matter what your issue. Follow the money and you'll find a politician on the other end with his hand out.

Jack Lohman
MoneyedPoliticians.net

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» Purge incumbents, they're dirty Posted by: weathered
» Indeed! Posted by: jlohman
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» RE: Indeed! Posted by: jlohman
Why don't people understand
Posted by: Shey on Oct 30, 2008 4:05 AM   
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.... that the FDA has for the last two decades or so, been no more than a rubber stamp for Big Pharma?
One of the major reforms that needs to take place in order to reign in the monster that the pharmaceutical industry has become, is to outlaw the advertising of prescription drugs on TV. The U.S. is one of only two countries that allows it (I think the other is New Zealand but I could be wrong).

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It's called "dollars"
Posted by: jlohman on Oct 30, 2008 4:25 AM   
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One problem is that the taxpayers only fund 1/3 of R&D costs. It should be 100%. Pharma (and device manufacturers) will not develop for rare diseases because they are not "profitable." But they will indeed spend money on "me too" drugs, i.e., those popular drugs going off patent. They change a molecule and then re-submit for a "new and improved" patent. This represents 80% of all drug revenues, but it's a public rip-off that is driving health care and Medicare costs through the roof.

Jack Lohman
MoneyedPoliticians.net

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Gee, I wonder.....
Posted by: Tom Degan on Oct 30, 2008 5:35 AM   
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....on which side of the argument Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia are going to decide?

This is slightly off topic but I must share it with you: It was just announced on Morning Joe that Exxon had the largest profits this year in its history. Do you think that they're going to get around to paying off the fine for the Exxon Valdeez disastor that took place thenty years ago?

Don't hold your breath.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"SHOCKING REVELATION: I LOVE AMERICA! Film at eleven

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Uh, there's another side to the case
Posted by: True2Blue on Oct 30, 2008 5:50 AM   
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Am I the only one who noticed that, in this case, the drug labelling supplied by the manufacturer and approved by the FDA was totally correct? The label clearly stated that gangrene was a potential complication of IV push administration. I have no doubt many others were already sued, like the doctor, the nurse, the hospital, and no doubt either they settled or lost the case, so the unfortunate woman already has recouped a boatload of money, and will not lose her "last recourse" to future income.

Phenergan is given in thousands or hundreds of thousands of doses each day, and a good number of those doses are also given IV push, with no complication. The FDA knows that. This article though claims that IV push should be disallowed. This brings up a point that people in health care understand, but the general public does not, namely, how rare does a complication need to be before it is okay to do? Tylenol ruins people's livers, and Motrin ruins their kidneys everyday, even when the label directions are followed, through a host of unusual or allergic-type reactions, yet does the author of this article say he'd like to see those two OTC drugs banned? Nope. He just wants to make sure you can sue the drug makers, in addition to the doctors and the nurse who gave it to you, for ungodly amounts of money.

People need to learn that very little in health care is a sure thing. People react differently to the same drugs, and to the same procedures, and there's no "crystal ball" to look through. The only way to avoid all chance of a complication such as this one is to do nothing. Administer no meds, perform no procedures. Just sit by and watch nature take it's course. How's that sound?

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LEGAL VERSES ETHICAL
Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 30, 2008 6:05 AM   
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Thanks Niko

There are complex legal questions posed by the case and others like it.

But it is high time that we start to rigorously apply self or externally imposed ethical standards to both Big PhRMA and the FDA. A good start would be "primum non nocerum"= "first do no harm"

I will not rest until especially Big PhRMA executives do jail time. Fines and lawsuits have not been enough to stop the greed driven corruption and excess.

The understaffed and underfunded FDA,like many other federal agencies,cannot properly regulate in a political environment where "regulation" is a dirty word

Dr. Rick Lippin
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JT Barrie
Posted by: rimchamp77 on Oct 30, 2008 6:33 AM   
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What's not mentioned are the total lack of measurable standards used by both the DEA and FDA. That's why many drugs that are available elsewhere are not in this country and why drugs that are banned elsewhere are widely used here. We may not have the most corrupt regulatory agencies - but we are competitive with anyone.
Because of drug policies we have the world's most dangerous drugs - on the streets and on the shelves. But good luck getting the media to actually acknowledge these shortcomings and give consumers a fighting chance. We need less litigation and more free flow of useful information [information that could hamper sales]. Consumers who are informed should take responsibility for risky behavior [using drugs approved by FDA - which is so corrupt]. Problems with drugs should be readily available to counter the "have problem, use drug, problem gone" style of drug ads. Sometimes the problem is worth the risk. If only those risks would be acknowledged and catalogued - despite the risk to profit margins.

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Tell me what the drug manufacturer did wrong here
Posted by: 2sides2this on Oct 30, 2008 6:36 AM   
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I agree that there have been instances where some pharma manufacturers have conducted themselves unethically and that there should be dire consequences in those instances. Historical lack of transparency with drug companies covering up adverse events or bad clinical trial results is appalling. This is why the manufacturers are now vowing to increase transparency and to make public all results - good, bad, and ugly.

In this case, though, a very commonly used drug, for which the risks were disclosed by the manufacturer to the FDA, was administered contrary to labeling by a clinician. Tell me what the manufacturer did wrong. Why should they be sued because a PA made a mistake? And if the FDA chose not to include a warning on IV push in the product's labeling after the manufacturer disclosed this risk to FDA, then perhaps FDA should be held responsible as well as the PA. But again, what did the manufacturer do wrong here?

Healthcare in this country is a mess that is contributing to our economic crises as healthcare costs skyrocket. One of the biggest factors in the escalation of healthcare costs is the cost of liability insurance. This country is lawsuit happy.

I agree that drugmakers who cover up information about the risks of their products should be held responsible - in fact, those making the decision to hide reports of adverse events absolutely should be put in jail. But when the drugmakers are upfront and disclose all risks, then prescribers should be obligated to learn about those risks and discuss with their patients the risks vs. benefits of the treatments they prescribe.

Like one of the earlier commentators mentioned, people react differently to medications. There is nothing that is 100% safe. In my opinion, as long as drugmakers have been completely upfront and disclosed all risks and all clinical trial results, negative as well as positive, and have taken action to warn prescribers and consumers if new and previously unknown risks appear, then they shouldn't be allowed to be sued. Innovations in medicine save and improve millions of lives every day. In this current vogue of demonizing the pharma industry, I think people tend to forget that.

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» When the industry pays.... Posted by: jlohman
» And that's another good point... Posted by: 2sides2this
» Try looking at it this way.... Posted by: bornxeyed
YES....'100,000,000 Million Guinea Pigs'
Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 30, 2008 6:43 AM   
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WAAAAY back was written a book called 100 Million Guinea Pigs- can't remeber the Author, Which went throw various prodcuts that mamed or killed peole due to the lack of real oversight or testing. And it has only gotten worse since NOW these producers are not required to have any independent cooberation totheir findings.
Granted meds & tx's for the terminally ill,should be more readily accessible. but are often barred due to Pharms refusal to even test- probably because they make more money off extending the illness instead of curing it or Preventing It to begin with.
Hell have you noticed the number of side effects which not only can kill you, but cause other problems...But Hey they got a Med for that Too!
why can't medical Marijuana get passed, because the Pahrms can't make a profit off something you can Grow yourself!These Cold hearted Bastards who Run these corps don't give a shit if it makes you feel better, they want you stuck with their side effect laden Poison!
Socialism....After nearly 40 yrs of corps running and Destroying our Lives, I'm in to a Little socialism.
Fuck it Seize the Banks, the Energy industries, Healthcare and Pharms,,return the Family farms to their rightful Owners.
If Brick and mortar does not work for US then it must be Reorganized or elimiated...these are Mere Tools, Not masters of Humanity. I owe them nothing, they owe US for their very existence!!

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» That's some good shit !!! Posted by: gellero1
littlemissmuffet
Posted by: widdydupree on Oct 30, 2008 6:43 AM   
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Big Pharma's whole system of self-regulation needs to be overhauled.

Until we can make that happen, folks, please do what I am doing: tell your doctor not to give you ANY drug that hasn't been around for at least 20 years! I learned my lesson after a year of taking Bextra; this drug is great for pain relief, but now I have uncontrollable hypertension.

What Big Pharma fails to mention in its TV ads is that today's "miracle drug" is tomorrow's class-action lawsuit - and with good reason!

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Will we lose??
Posted by: warrior woman on Oct 30, 2008 7:02 AM   
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Will we lose?? I suspect so. THis is why a veto proof Democratic Congress needs to step up to the plate and reverse so much of the damage that the Bush administration has perpetrated on the country (and the world).

Now, do I believe that they will? Not really. That's where we all come in. Pressure these people.

It's so dumb, these types of rulings though. Don't the people that ensure we have such horrendous law realize that they or their families will be affected too? No, they're blinded by greed.

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Mccain or Obama, I don't see SCOTUS being changed in terms of their relationship to Big Pharma.
Posted by: maxpayne on Oct 30, 2008 7:05 AM   
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Then again, when it comes to nominating judicial appointees, it's never about economic issues but instead about silly issues such as "abortion", same sex marriage, affirmative action, guns, school praying, patriotism, and the rest of these shitty culture war issues the government has no business interfering with in the first place.

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» Damn !!! Posted by: gellero1
Dispensing With the Truth
Posted by: Gravitas on Oct 30, 2008 7:34 AM   
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Anyone who wants a great account of the fen-phen crisis and just how low and dirty Pharma can get should read Dispensing With the Truth by Alicia Mundy.

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So let's sue the FDA for its negligence!
Posted by: jlohman on Oct 30, 2008 9:45 AM   
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If Pharma can't be sued because it followed FDA's advice, then the FDA can be sued for providing wrong (or conflicted) advice!

Jack Lohman
MoneyedPoliticians.net

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» Intruiging, but... Posted by: 2sides2this
» In the future... Posted by: bornxeyed
So Simply Wrong, there's no real question!!!
Posted by: Obwon on Oct 30, 2008 6:22 PM   
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The real question here, before the court is one of whether Congress created and gave
the FDA the power to grant or deny immunity!

I think not! Since the FDA cannot determine the ultimate safety of a drug, device or
proceedure it approves, it therefore must
make it's judgements, based on the good/bad
weight within the matters.

Meaning that it's
purpose is not to grant immunity by it's
approvals, but merely to say that the
benefits are equal to, or greater than the costs.

It is their domain, to ensure that needlessly
dangerous therapies do not enter the mainstream! Not to ensure that those that do, are placed beyond judicial review. As the suit is trying to claim. That, in effect, if any harm was done, FDA approval was the blame.

That would be like a national bank pointing to it's charter as a grant of immunity from law suits in states.

Nothing could be further from the
truth. FDA approval merely confers gov't
acceptance of a product into the public market place. Nothing more!

Obwon

Remember:
When you ride alone
You ride with Cheney!

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This is Trial Lawyer Propaganda
Posted by: gellero1 on Oct 30, 2008 7:34 PM   
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Listen, dummies. Doctors go to Medical School to learn about medicines and the potential problems that can happen. Do you think MDs need to read a label to know about adverse events?? Duh ??

Medical knowledge is always a work in progress, and that's what's talked about at meetings and in journals. That's why you trust another human being to saw open your skull, fix an artery, and put you back together. Is there any fool out there that believes there is no chance you will be dead if you do the above??

If you get your 'free' flu shot this year, compliments of the taxpayer, do you not know you have a remote chance of getting a disabling or killing neurological disease....and there's no way of predicting those who will be doomed?? It's on the label. Do you think your Doctor doesn't know this?? How big does the label have to be? Fortunately they havn't dumbed down Medical School students too much....but that's another story.

This is a welfare scam for trial attorneys that will drive up prices.

Remember the so called 'Tobacco Settlement'?? The lawyers got BILLIONS. What did any smoker get?? THE PRICE WAS DOUBLED for cigarettes. The 'Lawyer Tax' on the working man.......the largest demographic that smokes. And where's the money the States got?? Hey...those trial lawyer campaign contributions really worked......they got their EXTORTION Billions.

And folks......please remember....the next time you go to the Dentist....remember that you can DIE from the anesthetic injection. It's in small print on the label. Hope it doesn't happen to you.

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Posted by: sicntired on Oct 31, 2008 3:18 AM   
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There are suits all the time against drug manufacturers that make people worse with their drugs.You can't sue for people's behavior.Pain medication is a life saver for those of us in chronic pain.If someone is depressed or otherwise messed up enough to take pain killers off the books it's not the fault of the manufacturer.People have to take some responsibility for their own actions.Having said that,if doctors were allowed to prescribe what a person needs to get through the day without government interference we'd all be a lot better off.

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Thanks...
Posted by: Niko Karvounis on Oct 31, 2008 6:55 AM   
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...for the comments, everyone. A couple of points:

1. We could keep suing the FDA for its regulatory decisions if drug makers get immunity, but this is far from ideal. Yes, the FDA is responsible if it gives thumbs up to a garbage product, but if law suits can only target the government then: (a) drug makers can still make billions from a faulty product; (b) the government ends up spending billions on these law suits at a time of fiscal austerity; (c) it would be much harder to punish drug companies, EVEN if it's discovered that they have tricked the FDA to get a drug approved, because the precedent will be set that any compromises of the drug safety process is solely the fault of the FDA. Any way you slice it, it just ain't right.

2. Personal responsibility IS important, there's no denying it. This case, however, is about more than a drug label. The Court will be deciding if FDA approval trumps other standards of safety, even when the FDA standards have been shown to be lax enough to cause harm to patients. Yes, the court will probably weigh in on whether or not the initial FDA approval was sufficient or lacking, but more importantly, it will decide on the issue of preemption. Basically, if you think that patients should EVER be able to sue drug makers over FDA-approved medication--which, keep in mind, is pretty much EVERY medication you'll ever take--than you want a win for Levine, even if you're torn on the nitty gritty of the drug labeling issue.

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