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Can Exercise Come in a Pill?
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Salk Institute molecular biologist Ronald Evans debuted the results of a metabolic wonder drug that could mimic exercise, increase endurance and double fat-burning muscle just in time for the Olympics.
Exercisers could lose their treadmills, predicted health reporters, couch potatoes could lose their guilt -- and Olympic athletes could, well, cheat.
In an article in the journal Cell titled AMPK and PPAR Agonists Are Exercise Mimetics, Evans, a professor at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute, and 12 colleagues write that they have identified the "muscle endurance gene signature" and "molecular crosstalk" of two drugs that can actually reprogram muscle, in some cases, without exercise.
One drug, GW1516, developed but abandoned by GlaxoSmithKline because of toxic side effects, improved the endurance of mice that exercised by 77 percent and increased fat-burning "slow twitch" muscle fibers by 38 percent.
The other drug, AICAR, similar to the body's food energy nucleotide, adenosine monophosphate (AMP), and licensed by Schering-Plough Corp. for prevention of a surgical complication (at least until this month's stock bounce anticipating new "uses"), improved endurance in mice that did not exercise by 44 percent.
The changes seen in the lab were not "cosmetic," like the muscle building of steroids.
Rather, both drugs alter metabolism at the genetic level by acting upon PPAR-delta, a gene-controlling protein that produces the slow-twitch, fat-burning muscle fibers associated with endurance athletes, versus fast-twitch, sugar-burning fibers.
"This is not just a free lunch," Evans told the New York Times. "It's pushing your genome toward a more enhanced genetic tone that impacts metabolism and muscle function. So instead of inheriting a great set-point, you are using a drug to move your own genetics to a more activated metabolic state."
Happy Abs Forever?
While the promise of an Ectomorph Nation filled with lean, muscular bodies always opens Wall Street ears and wallets, the 46-year-old La Jolla, Calif.-based Salk Institute for Biological Sciences is not as enamored with lab-to-commercialization "technology transfer" as many pharma-supported institutions are.
Two-thirds of its approximately $90 million annual budget comes from federal funds -- the study published in Cell was supported by the Howard Hughes Medical Institute, the Hillblom Foundation and the National Institutes of Health -- and it penned its first partnership with a for-profit company, Paris-based Ipsen, only this year.
Nor is Evans likely a pharma favorite after publishing the results of a Salk mice study in Nature Medicine last year that found that long-term use of GlaxoSmithKline's Avandia in the treatment of type 2 diabetes "may cause osteoporosis due to both increased bone resorption and decreased bone formation." Oops.
And questions remain about the mice breakthroughs -- like what, exactly, the definition of exercise is.
Evans and the study's other authors report that sedentary mice treated with AICAR had a decreased ratio of fat mass to body weight and increased oxygen consumption. But, asks Frank Booth, a professor at the University of Missouri School of Medicine, did they have a slower resting heart rate and greater cardiac output (the amount of blood the heart pumps per minute) following exercise? Lower blood pressure and decreased arterial stiffness?
Besides increasing endurance in the mice trials, did the drugs show other exercise benefits? For example, were new blood vessels created to carry oxygen to new muscle cells, asks David L. Katz in the New Haven Register? Was red blood cell production increased in bone marrow? Were mood and hormone levels altered favorably?
Was the "exercise" even of the kind that builds strength needed by bedridden people and the elderly, or did it just mimic aerobic exercise, asks Eric Hoffman of the Children's National Medical Center in Washington, D.C., in an Associated Press article.
Humans would have to take AICAR and GW1516 for a long time to see results, other skeptics say. And by altering the expression of genes, the drugs could increase cancer risk or pose a threat of injury to the heart, like other colossal laboratory failures have.
Then there's the slippery slope of animal research.
Are results from genetically engineered animal "models" -- possibly electric-shocked or faced with drowning to "run" -- even applicable to humans?
"Extrapolation from rodent research to outcomes in people is notoriously uncertain and fraught with danger," writes Katz. "Basic science studies and animal experiments have resulted over the years in headlines about cures for cancer, a definitive obesity gene and effective AIDS vaccines, to name a few. None of these has yet to materialize, and early hyperbole in each case gave way to disappointment."
Even if these drugs do, in fact, work for humans, there is a question of prioritizing users.
Sure, the effortless exercise is intended for people with muscle-wasting diseases like diabetes and obesity. But if a feeder frenzy of Lance Armstrong and Angelina Jolie wannabes starts, and money and glamour kick in, those with the greatest need will not likely be at the front of the line.
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Posted by: pdxjoe on Aug 14, 2008 12:33 AM
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Posted by: 6399 on Aug 14, 2008 5:26 AM
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This will get fast tracked over at the FDA because, like the article mentions, Wall Street is clamoring for it. A few years will elapse before the actual side-effects become apparent, but by that time, millions of overworked, lazy and superficially socialized Americans will have been ensnared by Big Pharma's warm, psychotropic embrace.
Various forms of cancer, metabolic disorders like adrenal insufficiency and heart problems will begin manifesting themselves in young and old guinea pigs, er, patients alike with older patients in particular experiencing increased incidence of aortic dissection, valvular disease, etc.
There will be commercials featuring seniors flying kites among gently rustling waves of grain and a sexy young couple picnicking along the banks of a babbling brook, their cute little Labrador puppy playfully ambling amid a forest of sunflowers. It will be perfect.
It has already been foretold. The die is cast and all that is left is for millions of gullible people to be sent to an early grave by yet another assemblage of greedy, hand-rubbing big pharma cronies trying to pass themselves off as humanitarians who just want to "see Americans thrive" and "get back out there". I can almost hear the tag line now: "Attaining an ideal body weight is tough, but Plaxissus can help".
Remember our last go round with, admittedly, dissimilar drugs that touted the same results? Fen-phen, Ephedra? How about Olestra? I can't wait to see what the long-term side effect of the OTC product Alli are.
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Posted by: grumble-bum on Aug 14, 2008 5:39 AM
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As we are becoming aware, this can cause serious problems, whether we are talking about our out of control drug industry that pushes magic pills to an eager market without fully exploring side effects, or food science. In the latter case, we are seeing that our focus on defining & highlighting the nutritional aspects of originally whole foods has led to a dangerous myopia.
Sure, humans can stay alive by eating certain broken-down & recombinant food products, but key, sometimes mysterious physically & mentally beneficial interactions are lost or distorted, causing health problems that need to be further "targeted".
As human animals, it seems that the best approach to health is consuming whole foods & engaging in "whole" activities. Exercise can be temporarily painful & sometimes monotonous, but even in moderate doses it has lasting, pronounced effect on our physical & mental health. I avoided routine exercise for most of my life since childhood, other than the strains of jobs that required constant standing & lifting, only to begin a regimen in my early 30's. In two years, the positive aspects have been huge; regaining a natural weight for my body type, improved mental clarity & attitude, & increased self-esteem. Perhaps the biggest benefit is that my body is happy because it is doing what it is built to do, & there is a real feeling of accomplishment in the discipline of making & sticking to a routine.
I doubt that any super-pill would provide this combination. Rather, I suspect it would simply draw us further into a cycle of narcissistic chasing of the "ideal", with potential negative health effects, to boot.
Why can't we learn to keep it simple?
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Posted by: reelectnoone on Aug 14, 2008 7:30 AM
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Something like this could go a long way to helping someone in my situation reduce weight, taking more pressure off the joint.
I don't think it is a good idea to avoid exercise if you are fully capable but where there is some physical barrier to good exercise, this could be a good thing.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 14, 2008 7:30 AM
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Now there will be pills, yet no one has said what are the side effects! Because there will certainly be some. Yes let us continue to stuff ourselves as we sit on that couch, because all we need do is pop a pill and voila no weight gain! No, people we need to get off of our collective a--es and start moving! This is just another symptom of how sick a society that we are in. No, everyone doesn't have thyroid issues, slow metabolisms, or any of the hundreds of other excuses that we use to delude ourselves.
I know no one wants to think about it, but when you ride past those chain eateries(Macaroni Grill, Red Lobster, Outback, etc.) just look at the lines of people, then really look at the line, do you see yourself. This isn't hate, this is about your health or lack thereof. This is about letting your kids sit in front of the t.v. all day snacking. This is about children that are contracting type 2 diabetes at rates that haven't been seen before! This is about the choices that we make.
No, this pill shouldn't be fast-tracked. Let the obese walk!
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Posted by: drmflorida on Aug 14, 2008 7:32 AM
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I look at my parents as an excellent example of this. My father and mother both exercise the exact same amount, and eat mostly the same foods. My father goes for seconds and desert, my mother does not. My father hasn't gained a pound since college, my mother is constantly battling her weight.
My brothers both took after my father, and just my luck, I took after my mother.
People like me are not looking for "exercise in a bottle". I am not an athlete, but I also do not live an entirely sedentary life. I ride my bike, take walks, do yoga and tai chi. My diet is very good, rich in green vegetables. Overall, I feel very healthy, but unless I am leading some sort of regimental lifestyle, my weight keeps pushing upwards. I don't want to be a couch potato. I just want life to be "normal".
The current solution is for me to ramp up the exercise to excessive levels. But does anyone wonder if spending an hour a day on the treadmill or on the tennis court causes long term physical damage? Has anyone ever done a study on how healthy former professional football players are into their geriatric years?
The idea that I should be content to be overweight while my brothers are skinny just because that is how the genetic cards were dealt strikes me as regressive, and something I would expect from religious fanatics more than enlightened liberals.
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Posted by: Godfather89 on Aug 14, 2008 8:01 AM
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- Morbidly Obese
- Paralyzed from Waist Down
- Type A Personality where you are busy with other things
This "pill" is a real temptation on this already fat consumer society.
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Posted by: elidude420 on Aug 14, 2008 8:06 AM
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Before long, people will be crushing these pills and snorting them for the euphoric "runner's high." The original formulation will be banned. Its replacement will a small amount of the original drug mixed with 325 mg of soot and gravel to prevent abuse.
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Posted by: PaulK on Aug 14, 2008 11:08 AM
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The human body is genetically crafted for work. Work improves muscle tone and cardiovascular strength. Work improves balance and keeps the mind active. Work also puts food on the table and keeps people under roofs. Does this new pill put food on the table too?
Without work, the body and mind gets sick and malformed in many, many ways.
With certain kinds of work, certain muscles are strengthened and certain bones are stressed. For example, typing strengthens the fingers and can cause carpal tunnel syndrome.
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Posted by: pdxjoe on Aug 14, 2008 1:11 PM
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If it encourages the growth of slow-twitch muscles, then low-intensity/high-frequency exercise is still needed to maintain it. What's more is that, since muscles normally develop in response to their use, which is a question of how the muscle is used and not simply how much, without using this kind of muscle in the way that naturally encourages it to grow or persist, using these sorts of drugs may not encourage muscles to grow how they should.
In other words, this drug doesn't sound like it could be anything more than an enhancement to actual exercise and not anything like a substitute for it. This still means it can help those for whom exercise alone isn't enough, but not those who cannot or otherwise do not exercise at all.
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Posted by: fanny666 on Aug 14, 2008 2:02 PM
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The purpose of this research is not to make "exercise come in a pill". Those are the words of sensationalist headlines. The purpose of the research is to figure out what goes wrong in metabolic disorders, and how exactly exercise helps.
As much as everybody likes to point out how fat and lazy our fellow Americans are, there are reasons that some people cannot move their muscles. How about advanced muscular dystrophy? Are those people just being lazy? It is a bad thing to figure out a way to mimic exercise, and try to bring their limbs back to life?
I can bet that not a single one of the authors on the original scientific paper are even hoping that their research is used in a way that makes people think exercise can be stopped, and replaced with a pill. Without ever having met a single one of these scientists, I will confidently say that they are trying to help sick people, not trying to help fat people to be lazy. That's just "mad scientist" bullshit.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Aug 14, 2008 4:17 PM
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Yet a significant percentage the American public still believes this hype.
I won't be happy until some of these CEOs do jail time.Fines and lawsuit financial settlements are not enough.
Dr. Rick Lippin
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Posted by: 6399 on Aug 14, 2008 5:26 AM
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This will get fast tracked over at the FDA because, like the article mentions, Wall Street is clamoring for it. A few years will elapse before the actual side-effects become apparent, but by that time, millions of overworked, lazy and superficially socialized Americans will have been ensnared by Big Pharma's warm, psychotropic embrace.
Various forms of cancer, metabolic disorders like adrenal insufficiency and heart problems will begin manifesting themselves in young and old guinea pigs, er, patients alike with older patients in particular experiencing increased incidence of aortic dissection, valvular disease, etc.
There will be commercials featuring seniors flying kites among gently rustling waves of grain and a sexy young couple picnicking along the banks of a babbling brook, their cute little Labrador puppy playfully ambling amid a forest of sunflowers. It will be perfect.
It has already been foretold. The die is cast and all that is left is for millions of gullible people to be sent to an early grave by yet another assemblage of greedy, hand-rubbing big pharma cronies trying to pass themselves off as humanitarians who just want to "see Americans thrive" and "get back out there". I can almost hear the tag line now: "Attaining an ideal body weight is tough, but Plaxissus can help".
Remember our last go round with, admittedly, dissimilar drugs that touted the same results? Fen-phen, Ephedra? How about Olestra? I can't wait to see what the long-term side effect of the OTC product Alli are.
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Posted by: grumble-bum on Aug 14, 2008 5:39 AM
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As we are becoming aware, this can cause serious problems, whether we are talking about our out of control drug industry that pushes magic pills to an eager market without fully exploring side effects, or food science. In the latter case, we are seeing that our focus on defining & highlighting the nutritional aspects of originally whole foods has led to a dangerous myopia.
Sure, humans can stay alive by eating certain broken-down & recombinant food products, but key, sometimes mysterious physically & mentally beneficial interactions are lost or distorted, causing health problems that need to be further "targeted".
As human animals, it seems that the best approach to health is consuming whole foods & engaging in "whole" activities. Exercise can be temporarily painful & sometimes monotonous, but even in moderate doses it has lasting, pronounced effect on our physical & mental health. I avoided routine exercise for most of my life since childhood, other than the strains of jobs that required constant standing & lifting, only to begin a regimen in my early 30's. In two years, the positive aspects have been huge; regaining a natural weight for my body type, improved mental clarity & attitude, & increased self-esteem. Perhaps the biggest benefit is that my body is happy because it is doing what it is built to do, & there is a real feeling of accomplishment in the discipline of making & sticking to a routine.
I doubt that any super-pill would provide this combination. Rather, I suspect it would simply draw us further into a cycle of narcissistic chasing of the "ideal", with potential negative health effects, to boot.
Why can't we learn to keep it simple?
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Posted by: reelectnoone on Aug 14, 2008 7:30 AM
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Something like this could go a long way to helping someone in my situation reduce weight, taking more pressure off the joint.
I don't think it is a good idea to avoid exercise if you are fully capable but where there is some physical barrier to good exercise, this could be a good thing.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 14, 2008 7:30 AM
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Now there will be pills, yet no one has said what are the side effects! Because there will certainly be some. Yes let us continue to stuff ourselves as we sit on that couch, because all we need do is pop a pill and voila no weight gain! No, people we need to get off of our collective a--es and start moving! This is just another symptom of how sick a society that we are in. No, everyone doesn't have thyroid issues, slow metabolisms, or any of the hundreds of other excuses that we use to delude ourselves.
I know no one wants to think about it, but when you ride past those chain eateries(Macaroni Grill, Red Lobster, Outback, etc.) just look at the lines of people, then really look at the line, do you see yourself. This isn't hate, this is about your health or lack thereof. This is about letting your kids sit in front of the t.v. all day snacking. This is about children that are contracting type 2 diabetes at rates that haven't been seen before! This is about the choices that we make.
No, this pill shouldn't be fast-tracked. Let the obese walk!
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Posted by: drmflorida on Aug 14, 2008 7:32 AM
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I look at my parents as an excellent example of this. My father and mother both exercise the exact same amount, and eat mostly the same foods. My father goes for seconds and desert, my mother does not. My father hasn't gained a pound since college, my mother is constantly battling her weight.
My brothers both took after my father, and just my luck, I took after my mother.
People like me are not looking for "exercise in a bottle". I am not an athlete, but I also do not live an entirely sedentary life. I ride my bike, take walks, do yoga and tai chi. My diet is very good, rich in green vegetables. Overall, I feel very healthy, but unless I am leading some sort of regimental lifestyle, my weight keeps pushing upwards. I don't want to be a couch potato. I just want life to be "normal".
The current solution is for me to ramp up the exercise to excessive levels. But does anyone wonder if spending an hour a day on the treadmill or on the tennis court causes long term physical damage? Has anyone ever done a study on how healthy former professional football players are into their geriatric years?
The idea that I should be content to be overweight while my brothers are skinny just because that is how the genetic cards were dealt strikes me as regressive, and something I would expect from religious fanatics more than enlightened liberals.
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Posted by: Godfather89 on Aug 14, 2008 8:01 AM
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- Morbidly Obese
- Paralyzed from Waist Down
- Type A Personality where you are busy with other things
This "pill" is a real temptation on this already fat consumer society.
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Posted by: elidude420 on Aug 14, 2008 8:06 AM
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Before long, people will be crushing these pills and snorting them for the euphoric "runner's high." The original formulation will be banned. Its replacement will a small amount of the original drug mixed with 325 mg of soot and gravel to prevent abuse.
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Posted by: PaulK on Aug 14, 2008 11:08 AM
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The human body is genetically crafted for work. Work improves muscle tone and cardiovascular strength. Work improves balance and keeps the mind active. Work also puts food on the table and keeps people under roofs. Does this new pill put food on the table too?
Without work, the body and mind gets sick and malformed in many, many ways.
With certain kinds of work, certain muscles are strengthened and certain bones are stressed. For example, typing strengthens the fingers and can cause carpal tunnel syndrome.
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Posted by: pdxjoe on Aug 14, 2008 1:11 PM
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If it encourages the growth of slow-twitch muscles, then low-intensity/high-frequency exercise is still needed to maintain it. What's more is that, since muscles normally develop in response to their use, which is a question of how the muscle is used and not simply how much, without using this kind of muscle in the way that naturally encourages it to grow or persist, using these sorts of drugs may not encourage muscles to grow how they should.
In other words, this drug doesn't sound like it could be anything more than an enhancement to actual exercise and not anything like a substitute for it. This still means it can help those for whom exercise alone isn't enough, but not those who cannot or otherwise do not exercise at all.
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Posted by: fanny666 on Aug 14, 2008 2:02 PM
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The purpose of this research is not to make "exercise come in a pill". Those are the words of sensationalist headlines. The purpose of the research is to figure out what goes wrong in metabolic disorders, and how exactly exercise helps.
As much as everybody likes to point out how fat and lazy our fellow Americans are, there are reasons that some people cannot move their muscles. How about advanced muscular dystrophy? Are those people just being lazy? It is a bad thing to figure out a way to mimic exercise, and try to bring their limbs back to life?
I can bet that not a single one of the authors on the original scientific paper are even hoping that their research is used in a way that makes people think exercise can be stopped, and replaced with a pill. Without ever having met a single one of these scientists, I will confidently say that they are trying to help sick people, not trying to help fat people to be lazy. That's just "mad scientist" bullshit.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Aug 14, 2008 4:17 PM
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Yet a significant percentage the American public still believes this hype.
I won't be happy until some of these CEOs do jail time.Fines and lawsuit financial settlements are not enough.
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
ralippin@aol.com
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