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The Autoimmune Epidemic: Bodies Gone Haywire in a World Out of Balance
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Reprinted with permission. An interview with the author follows.
Most of us, at some juncture in our lives, have played out in our minds how devastating it would be to have our doctor hand down a cancer diagnosis or to warn us that we are at risk for a heart attack or stroke. Magazine articles, television dramas, and news headlines all bring such images home.
But consider an equally devastating health crisis scenario, one that you rarely hear spoken about openly, one that receives almost no media attention.
Imagine the slow, creeping escalation of seemingly amorphous symptoms: a tingling in the arms and fingers, the sudden appearance of a speckled rash across the face, the strange muscle weakness in the legs when climbing stairs, the fiery joints that emerge out of nowhere -- any and all of which can signal the onset of a wide range of life-altering and often debilitating autoimmune diseases.
Imagine, if you can: the tingling foot and ankle that turns out to be the beginning of the slow paralysis of multiple sclerosis. Four hundred thousand patients. Excruciating joint pain and inflammation, skin rashes, and never-ending flu-like symptoms that lead to the diagnosis of lupus. One and a half million more. Relentless bouts of vertigo -- the hallmark of Ménière's. Seven out of every one thousand Americans. Severe abdominal pain, bleeding rectal fissures, uncontrollable diarrhea, and chronic intestinal inflammation that define Crohn's disease and inflammatory bowel disease. More than 1 million Americans.More than 2 million patients. Dry mouth so persistent eight glasses of water a day won't soothe the parched throat and tongue and the mysterious swallowing difficulties that are the first signs of Sjögren's. Four million Americans. And, with almost every autoimmune disease, intolerable, life-altering bouts of exhaustion. If fatigue were a sound made manifest by the 23.5 million people with autoimmune disease in America, the roar across this country would be more deafening than that of the return of the seventeen-year locusts.
And yet, despite the prevalence of autoimmune disease, surveys show that more than 90 percent of people cannot summon the name of a single autoimmune disease when asked to name one specifically.
Think of it -- other than walkathons for multiple sclerosis, how many fundraising walks or lapel ribbons have you seen for autoimmune disease in general? Nearly 24 million Americans are suffering from an autoimmune illness, yet nine out of ten Americans cannot name a single one of these diseases. It boggles the mind.
Each of these nearly 100 autoimmune diseases derails lives. Taken collectively, these diseases, which also include type 1 diabetes, Graves' disease, vasculitis, myasthenia gravis, connective tissue diseases, autoimmune Addison's disease, vitiligo, rheumatoid arthritis, hemolytic anemia, celiac disease, and scleroderma are now the Number Two cause of chronic illness in America and the third leading cause of Social Security disability behind heart disease and cancer. (Acquired immune deficiency syndrome, or AIDS, by contrast, is not an autoimmune disease; in fact, it is entirely different. In AIDS a virus attacks the immune system and destroys it, whereas in autoimmune disease, the immune system leads the attack, mistaking the body's tissue for an invader and turning on the body itself.)
Autoimmune diseases are the eighth leading cause of death among women, shortening the average patient's lifespan by fifteen years. Not surprisingly, the economic burden is staggering: autoimmune diseases represent a yearly health-care burden of more than $120 billion, compared to the yearly health-care burden of $70 billion for direct medical costs for cancer.
To underscore these numbers, consider: while 2.2 million women are living with breast cancer and 7.2 million women have coronary disease, an estimated 9.8 million women are afflicted with one of the seven more common autoimmune diseases: lupus, scleroderma, rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, inflammatory bowel disease, Sjögren's, and type 1 diabetes. All of these can lead to potentially fatal complications.
Or slice these statistics another way: while one in 69 women below the age of fifty will be diagnosed with breast cancer, according to estimates, as many as one in nine women of childbearing years will be diagnosed with an autoimmune illness, which strike three times as many women as men -- and most often strike patients in their prime. According to the National Institutes of Health, autoimmune disease affects far more patients than the 9 million Americans who have cancer and the 16 million with coronary disease.
"The Western Disease": A Rising Epidemic Underrecognized and Underaddressed
Even as autoimmune diseases remain underrecognized and underaddressed, the number of patients afflicted with these illnesses has been steadily growing. Yet few of today's practicing physicians are aware of the escalating tsunami of epidemiological evidence that now concerns top scientists at every major research institute around the world: evidence that autoimmune diseases such as lupus, MS, scleroderma, and many others are on the rise and have been for the past four decades in industrialized countries around the world.
Mayo Clinic researchers report that the incidence of lupus has nearly tripled in the United States over the past four decades. Their findings are all the more alarming when you consider that their research has been conducted among a primarily white population at a time when many researchers believe lupus rates are rising most significantly among African Americans.
Over the past fifty years multiple sclerosis rates have tripled in Finland. Rates have likewise been rising in Scotland, England, the Netherlands, Denmark, and Sweden, where the number of people with MS has been rising at nearly 3 percent a year. Multiple sclerosis rates in Norway have risen 30 percent since 1963, echoing trends in Germany, Italy, and Greece, where MS rates have doubled over the past thirty to forty years.
Rates of type 1 diabetes are perhaps the most telling. Data over the past forty years show that type 1 diabetes, a disease in which immune cells attack the insulin-producing beta cells in the pancreas, has increased fivefold. The story regarding childhood-onset type 1 diabetes is more disturbing. Studies show that the number of children with type 1 diabetes is skyrocketing, with rates increasing 6 percent a year in children four and under and 4 percent in children aged 10 to 14.
Rates of numerous other autoimmune diseases -- scleroderma, Crohn's disease, autoimmune Addison's disease, and polymyositis -- show the same alarming pattern.
As with all epidemiological research, it can be more art than science to tease out what percentage of these rising rates is the result of more people being diagnosed with a disease because physicians are more aware of it, versus the increase from a genuine rise in the number of people falling ill. Yet the researchers behind these epidemiological studies hold that something more than an improved ability among doctors to diagnose autoimmune diseases is driving these numbers upward.
Norwegian epidemiologists, for instance, argue that rising rates are "due to a real biological change of the disease" rather than being caused solely by better diagnostics and are concerned by the higher occurrence of autoimmunity in urban than in rural areas. Swedish and German researchers concur that enhanced diagnostics alone cannot explain today's significant increases in MS.
Type 1 diabetes researchers insist that today's rapid rise in this disease cannot be explained by either better diagnostics or by more people suddenly becoming genetically susceptible to type 1 diabetes; rather, a change in environmental factors is the "more plausible explanation." At the Mayo Clinic researchers are beginning to ask if rising rates of lupus are the result of an increased exposure to environmental triggers of some unknown origin. Because autoimmune disease is spreading in almost every industrialized nation, scientists the world over have dubbed it "the Western disease."
A Growing Autoimmune Patient Load, An Autoimmune-Disease Crisis in the Making
While epidemiological studies provide a global portrait of an autoimmune-disease crisis in the making, it is through patients' eyes that it takes on more personal meaning. And nowhere is this more evident than at the offices of Dr. Michelle Petri, clinical director of the Johns Hopkins Lupus Center, at the Johns Hopkins Outpatient Center in downtown Baltimore, Maryland. Dr. Petri is a heavy hitter in the field of rheumatology and a nationally known speaker on lupus. Many of the people she treats have waited months for an appointment in order to confirm a diagnosis or gain better treatment for such rheumatic autoimmune diseases as lupus and antiphospholipid syndrome. Some of them are local residents who live merely a few blocks away from her office, while other patients fly thousands of miles to see her.
Over the course of her thirty-year career, Petri has witnessed a dramatic rise in patients with lupus. In the 1960s there were only 150 to 200 lupus patients registered in the Hopkins Rheumatology Clinics. Today, there are 1,700 lupus patients registered from the immediate neighborhood alone. "The population in Baltimore is going down, and yet the number of people coming to our clinic from Baltimore with autoimmune disease is going up," she says.
In an administrative building nearby sits the lupus clinic records room. In the twenty-by-twenty-foot space loom four walls of filing cabinets -- enough to easily fill up the four walls in your local 7-Eleven -- packed with patient files that, twenty years ago, would have fit neatly into a few metal drawers. Although Petri has no way of conducting formal epidemiologic research through her clinic, the continued rise in the percent of patients afflicted in her own small urban area is, she says, a "very disturbing" sign.
Certainly, some of the increase that Petri and other clinicians are seeing in lupus is due to the improved treatment many patients receive through kidney dialysis and transplants, which help them live longer (the longer patients survive, the larger the overall patient number). And the skill with which physicians diagnose lupus has improved somewhat in many large metropolitan hospital centers. However, this increase in lupus "is so enormous," says Petri, part of it can only be explained by an increase in the incidence of lupus itself.
Petri's emphatic tone reveals her concern for her patients' well-being as well as her frustration over how little physicians understand about why so many people's immune systems are attacking their own healthy tissue. The fact that so many front-line practitioners are ill trained in how to diagnose these diseases can result in patients facing costly delays -- both physically and emotionally -- in getting the help they need.
One of these patients was Kathleen Arntsen, a 44-year-old sales professional from Verona, New York. After five years of searching for a diagnosis for what would turn out later to be myasthenia gravis, a disease in which sufferers develop severe muscle fatigue and disabling weakness, Kathleen was told by a doctor she'd been to eight times, "We've given you every test known to man except for an autopsy. Would you like one of those too?" For half a decade, she says, "I was treated like an absolute fruitcake. No one could tell me what was wrong with me, much less treat me."
Arntsen's story is not unusual. The average patient with autoimmune disease sees six doctors before attaining a correct diagnosis. Recent surveys conducted by the American Autoimmune Related Diseases Association reveal that 45 percent of patients with autoimmune diseases have been labeled hypochondriacs in the earliest stages of their illnesses. Some of this, no doubt, has to do with the fact that 75 percent to 80 percent of autoimmune disease sufferers are women, who are more easily dismissed by the medical establishment when hard-to-diagnose symptoms arise. In half of all cases, women with autoimmune disease are told there is nothing wrong with them for an average of five years before receiving diagnosis and treatment. Patients -- most especially women -- are often left feeling both confused and marginalized, or worse, labeled as psychosomatic malingerers.
Arntsen was fortunate to find her way eventually to Johns Hopkins University's neuromuscular clinic and later to Michelle Petri for confirmation, consultation, and validation regarding her polyautoimmune disorders, which include lupus, Sjögrens, Graves' thyroid disease, APS, psoriasis, Raynaud's disease, and myasthenia gravis. Yet despite having an accurate set of diagnoses, Arntsen's autoimmune illnesses have forced her to give up almost everything she once equated with normal life in order to preserve the stamina to get through each day. Once a healthy young woman on a full scholarship to Colgate University, where she was captain of the women's rugby team, Arntsen now has to stop and pick up each knee as she goes up the stairs. "I coexist," she says, "with bone-gnawing pain." For years, her long flame of red hair, which once reached her tailbone, turned scarce and thin, the fallout of her autoimmune thyroiditis, coupled with drug side effects. In the past decade she has spent almost a year and a half in the hospital during her most severe lupus flares. Although she is carefully monitored, there is little the medical establishment can offer Kathleen for her lupus and myasthenia gravis other than steroids, a healthy diet, and boatloads of rest -- especially since no new U.S. Food and Drug Administration-approved drugs have been developed for lupus in more than forty years.
Kathleen's debility and exhaustion, which have taken a permanent toll on her life and career, will never go away. A top-performing sales rep for an insurance company while in her thirties, Arntsen, who used to run three miles a day, now lives on Social Security disability -- which, she says ruefully, allows time for "my new full-time job -- seeing specialists." She gets going each day by around noon and spends what stamina she has left volunteering at the Lupus Foundation of Mid and Northern New York, which has become her "baby," although it can hardly begin to make up for the fact that "the chance to be a mother has been stolen from me." The best Kathleen and her husband of fifteen years can hope for is that with the careful monitoring of diet, stress, and sleep, she will have more good days than bad.
To look at Kathleen, however, you would never guess what she has been through or what she faces each morning at the start of her day. Like many people who suffer from autoimmune diseases, Kathleen's symptoms remain largely invisible. "Because we go through ups and downs, you might see us on a good day, between severe flares, when we seem to be perfectly fine," she says. "You don't know that we've just spent six weeks in hell." Few can imagine, she adds, that behind her bedroom door even on one of these good days, Kathleen has to take twenty-two medications about an hour before she tries to get up, just so she can handle the pain when her feet hit the floor. "By the time you run into me at the grocery store at two o'clock in the afternoon and say hello to me, I'm ready to nod and say, 'Oh, I'm fine, how are you?'"
© 2008 Donna Jackson Nakazawa.
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Q&A with Donna Jackson Nakazawa, author of The Autoimmune Epidemic: Bodies Gone Haywire in a World out of Balance -- and the Cutting Edge Science that Promises Hope (Touchstone/Simon & Schuster, February 2008).
Q. In your book you say that the number of people suffering from autoimmune diseases such as lupus, multiple sclerosis and type 1 diabetes has skyrocketed -- more than doubling in the last three decades. Yet we hear very little about this epidemic. Why?
Nakazawa: Lupus, multiple sclerosis, type 1 diabetes and rheumatoid arthritis are just a few of the more common types of autoimmune disease, but in fact there are nearly a hundred other known autoimmune diseases. One in 12 people -- and one in 9 women -- has an autoimmune disease. That's nearly 24 million Americans. Yet even though autoimmune diseases afflict more than double the number of people who have cancer, and a woman is 8 times more likely to have an autoimmune disease than breast cancer, 90 percent of Americans say they can't name a single autoimmune disease. That's because people just don't know that many painful and life-altering disorders that increasingly afflict so many of their friends and family members today are autoimmune in nature; the body's immune system, which is meant to protect us, is mistakenly attacking the body's own organs and systems.
We also don't hear much about these diseases because the exact process by which our immune system turns from friend to foe was, for many decades, the black box of modern science. Until the late 1970s scientists didn't even agree that the body could turn on itself, much less why. It's only in the last ten years that scientists have been able to show in the lab exactly how the immune system, when it's overwhelmed by foreign invaders such as chemicals and viruses, can go haywire and destroy our own tissue and organs in acts we might think of as "friendly fire." The fact that these diseases have been difficult for the medical community to understand means that even today getting a correct diagnosis can be very difficult. Most people who have an autoimmune disease see six doctors over four years before they get a diagnosis. One patient suffering from severe muscle fatigue and disabling weakness was told by a doctor she'd seen eight times: "We've given you every test known to man except for an autopsy. Would you like one of those too?" It was five years before she got a diagnosis of myasthenia gravis. The medical establishment often lacks a full understanding as to how to diagnose these diseases, dismisses women who complain of symptoms, and often has little to offer in the way of effective treatment. So one reason autoimmune diseases are not on our radar screens is that these diseases were, for many decades, mysterious and not well understood.
Another reason, I suspect, is that on some level we don't want to face the facts. Rates of these diseases have doubled and tripled in industrialized countries around the world over the past three decades. The top scientists I interviewed for my book agree that something in our environment -- something far beyond a better ability to diagnose these diseases -- is causing this health crisis. They are convinced that the cause of this epidemic -- which is world-wide, by the way -- lies primarily in our environment and in all the toxins, pesticides, heavy metals and chemicals that have become a part of our everyday living. We all carry a "body burden" of toxins in our bloodstream, even babies. Several studies show that chemicals commonly used in household cleaners, cosmetics and furniture are present in infant fetal cord blood. This doesn't sound healthy, does it? But even if we agree that this soup of chemicals within us is harmful, what do we do about it? Talking about the autoimmune epidemic is a bit like talking about global warming before the movie An Inconvenient Truth was released. For the longest time, we couldn't see, or didn't want to see, that the smallest rise in temperature would melt the polar ice caps. Likewise, we don't want to know that the ways we're polluting our environment are also harming our bodies and our immune cells. In the international medical world, the scientists who study autoimmune disease call this epidemic "the global warming of women's health." Yet the reality that the environment plays a major role in triggering these diseases hasn't yet trickled down to the rest of the population.
Q. You coin the term "autogen" to describe the agents that trigger autoimmune disease. What are some examples of autogens?
Nakazawa: There are thousands of probable autogens we have not yet studied. Eighty thousand chemicals have been approved for use in our environment. Every year 1700 new chemicals are approved -- that's an average of five a day. Have scientists studied the effects on our bodies of all these chemicals? No. However, those chemicals that have been researched -- in occupational studies and in studies of lab animals -- have been shown to play a role in triggering autoimmune reactions. For example, mice exposed to pesticides -- at levels four-fold lower than the level set as acceptable for humans by the EPA -- are more susceptible to getting lupus than control mice. Mice that absorb low doses of trichloroethylene (TCE) -- a chemical used in industrial degreasers, dry-cleaning, household paint thinners, glues and adhesives -- at levels deemed safe by the EPA, and equal to what a factory worker today might encounter, quickly develop autoimmune hepatitis. And low doses of perfluorooctanoic acid, a breakdown chemical of Teflon that can be found in 96 percent of humans tested for it, impair the development of a proper immune system in rats.
We know from occupational studies in humans that these chemicals impair our immune systems in dangerous ways. In 2007, scientists from the National Institutes of Health announced -- after studying 300,000 death certificates in 26 states over a 14-year period -- that those who worked with pesticides, textiles, hand painting, solvents (such as TCE), benzene, asbestos, and other compounds were significantly more likely to die from an autoimmune disease than people who were not exposed. Other recent studies show links between working with solvents, silica dust, asbestos, PCBs and vinyl chloride and a greater likelihood of developing autoimmune disease.
Q. But not everyone who is exposed to these autogens comes down with a disease. So, why do some people get an autoimmune disease and not others?
Nakazawa: That's because of a phenomenon I call the "barrel effect." Each person, with his or her unique genetic composition, is exposed to a myriad combination and level of autogens depending on what they encounter in their day-to-day lives through the air they breathe and what they come into contact with through their skin. This toxic stew consists not only of chemicals and heavy metals, but additives in our highly processed diet and viruses and bacterial agents to which we're exposed -- all of which combine to impact our immune system. Chronic stress, which releases cortisol into our body, also plays a role in triggering these diseases as do women's reproductive hormones -- which is why women are three times more likely than men to come down with an autoimmune disease. As long as your barrel is less than full, however, your immune system is still able to deal with what it confronts every day. But once the immune system becomes overburdened it can begin to send misread signals, causing the immune system to make costly mistakes and attack the body itself. Unfortunately in modern life we've created a perfect storm of factors -- a plethora of chemicals, heavy metals, processed food additives, viral hits and stressors -- for today's autoimmune epidemic to take hold. So much of what we encounter in twenty-first century life is causing our barrel to fill to the brim -- and spill over. At that point, disease strikes.
Q. Is it only people with a genetic predisposition who are vulnerable to this "barrel effect"?
Nakazawa: No. Researchers have found that anyone can be susceptible. Whether or not you get an autoimmune disease depends on how many of these triggers you've been exposed to over your lifetime -- or how full your barrel is. People with a genetic predisposition -for example, if you have a close relative who has an autoimmune disease, you may be genetically inclined that way -- may be more vulnerable, but anyone whose immune system is overtaxed or over-stimulated can get sick.
Q. You talk about "clusters" of autoimmune diseases in your book. For example, in Buffalo, NY, in a small neighborhood surrounding known toxic waste sites, an unusually high number of people have developed lupus. And yet, the U.S. Department of Environmental Conservation is doubtful that there's a link. Why is that?
Nakazawa: Clusters are hugely controversial in part because our scientific criteria for proving that exposure A caused disease B in a community are extremely difficult to meet. Autoimmune diseases take years to appear after exposure, and communities are often constantly changing. People move, or die, or their disease is never properly diagnosed. How can we prove, with all these variables, that a toxic exposure in an area caused a group of people to fall ill with a specific set of diseases? Moreover, so much toxic waste exists everywhere, how can we definitively compare what autoimmune disease rates might be in a non-chemically laden area with those in a highly contaminated area when such clear-cut lines rarely exist in the cities and suburbs where we live? So it's very difficult.
Nevertheless, autoimmune clusters have been shown to exist near toxic waste sites in Buffalo, New York; El Paso, Texas; and Morrison, Illinois and its environs. Many more are being investigated, including in Anniston, Alabama, where investigators funded by the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry are conducting studies to determine whether high rates of autoimmune disease in the area are linked to an industrial manufacturing site where most of the PCBs in the United States were once manufactured and dumped. From Anniston to Buffalo we live in an increasingly complex sea of autogenic agents.
Still, we say we can't "prove" that chemicals are impairing the human immune system. Meanwhile, European environmental policy uses the precautionary principle -- an approach to public health that underscores preventing harm to human health before it happens. In June 2007, the European Union implemented legislation known as REACH (the Registration, Evaluation, Authorization and Restriction of Chemical Substances), which requires companies to develop safety data on 30,000 chemicals over the next decade, and places responsibility on the chemical industry to demonstrate the safety of their products. America lags far behind, without any precautionary guidelines regarding chemical use.
Obviously, political and economic considerations come into play here. There are over 1200 "superfund" sites around the U.S. -areas where deadly toxins are known to be seeping into the environment -- and these have yet to be cleaned up. At about 10 percent of these sites, people are freely entering the area and being exposed directly to the hazardous waste. Unfortunately, the Environmental Protection Agency does not release information about how much it plans to spend to remediate these sites, when the area will be cleaned up or how long it will take.
Q. You were twice paralyzed with the autoimmune disease Guillan Barre Syndrome during the writing of this book. How did you recover?
Nakazawa: Most patients with an autoimmune disease go through terribly difficult times -- or flare-ups -- which can be quite serious. Getting through a downturn involves a combination of factors. If you know what can contribute to disease it's easier to know how you can help yourself. Months of grueling physical therapy, coupled with IVIG treatments, helped me recover each time I was paralyzed. I also have had to be vigilant about what goes into my body and avoid coming into contact with things that might overstimulate my immune system. Dietary factors, use of household cleaners, emotional stress -- these all have to be watched and managed. Also, we do a lot of hand washing in my home, especially when there are colds and flu going around, to minimize any viral hits to my immune system. Studies show that patients with an autoimmune disease also do better if they build a wellness plan that involves reducing stress hormones through a daily habit of meditation and whatever form of exercise they can tolerate. Studies show that autoimmune patients also do much better if they follow "the autoimmune diet," which means consuming foods that are anti-inflammatory. For example, most autoimmune specialists agree that patients should avoid wheat and gluten products and highly processed foods, which can be inflammatory or provoke the immune system to overreact. So one needs to work with a doctor who is open to treating you not just with drugs but also with dietary changes, including making sure you're receiving adequate amounts of the main supplements that have been shown in clinical studies to help autoimmune disease patients, such as omega fatty acids, Vitamin D, antioxidants, probiotics, and glucosamine.
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Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Mar 19, 2008 3:15 AM
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we're also doing a fine job of destroying our immune systems with our chemical-laden environment. just helping nature along.
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Posted by: PaulK on Mar 19, 2008 4:52 AM
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Instant autoimmune diseases mean that the offender gets nailed in court, because it's obvious who poisoned the victim. (er, the victim dies sometimes, sorry about that).
We need these victims to save us all from cancer (and 1 of 2 kids will see cancer in this lifetime). The same toxins that cause cancer will set off these illnesses.
Save the humans!
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Posted by: opmoc on Mar 19, 2008 4:56 AM
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50 years ago children only received vaccinations agains the most life threatening diseases - and tended to catch and naturally recover from a whole host of other illnesses. I suspect that this had a far better life-long effect at protecting the immune system.
There is also the obsession with cleanliness. Over-clean houses and children not playing outside so much amongst all the natural environmental dangers that they build up resistance to.
The end product is that children appear to be very much healthier when children - but have they exchanged good health as children for a loss of natural immunity - which takes its toll when they are older?
This is merely an idea, and I could of course be completely wrong and the real cause is poisoning by processed foods, over prescribed drugs and junk like aspartame.
In my view its probably wise to keep your children away from the health profession as much as possible, except when seriously ill (which doesn't mean a cold). Also bring them up such that when they get home from school they ask for a raw carrot - rather than a mars bar and a bag of crisps (but wash the chemicals off it first)
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Posted by: drricklippin on Mar 19, 2008 5:24 AM
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Kathleen has to take twenty-two medications about an hour before she tries to get up, just so she can handle the pain when her feet hit the floor.
I cannot conceive that this is good for the patient?
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Posted by: bbb on Mar 19, 2008 6:00 AM
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The Book is so right..the media are not aware of the sheer cost in both resources and human quality of life and of life itself due to Autoimmune Disease.
Also no one yet seems to understand the need to cure the root cause of All Autoimmune Diseases...Pharma's are not interested in cures..only costly treatments...this is a national and worldwide disgrace..governments should demand the pharmas direct their funding into finding a common cure for all these diseases...
Otherwise us and then our children and then our children's children will suffer and die..
The need is great the health system cannot cope now...we need a revolution in thinking by government ..forget Bird Flu the real epidemic is already here !
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Posted by: Constitutional_Patriot on Mar 19, 2008 6:14 AM
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Let's take a look at a few facts relevent to the following question:
Why do the ultra-rich pretend to "donate" to what is euphemistically called "cancer research"?
1. Way back in the 1860's, "Old Bill" Rockefeller, the itinerant pappy of John D. Sr. and a patent medicine showman, used to sell bottled raw petroleum as a cure for cancer.
2. The DuPont's experiments in fluorine chemistry led to vast amounts of the toxic, cancer-causing stuff being dumped in our water supply -- This is now known as "fluoridation".
These very same Merchants of Death (primarily the members of the old "trust" families") not only commit treason for profit during time of war, but have also created the vast system of "cancer treatment" which has no desire to seek a real, permanent cure for cancer.
Your body is chattel for their profit - when are you going to vote like you understand what they have done to you?
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» Really???
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» REALLY!
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» How many TONNES of NUCLEAR FALLOUT from Weapons Testing? or PLASTICS contamination?
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Posted by: Constitutional_Patriot on Mar 19, 2008 6:17 AM
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Their corporate preference is for the profits generated from "treatment" - a new koind of rent all patients must now pay on their own bodies.
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Posted by: lm on Mar 19, 2008 6:29 AM
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here are common denominators seen in most cases..in some combination.....
Low thyroid....missed by 80% of physicians....Rt3 and free t3 never measured..
adrenal stress
estrogen stress
Leaky gut syndrome
dental mercury
history of birth control pills and female follicular and luteal cycle problems
blood sugar disorders from too high ingestion of carbs
type 2 diabetes or pre-diabetes
ingestion of high amounts of free radical causing omega 6 and yes omega 3 oils (learn your biochemistry (qualitative) ingestion of omega 3 and (quantitative of Omega 6)will also increase your free radical production beyond your body's ability to quench them, this is the antithises to todays wisdom or Mantra of TAKE FISH OIL!
glycated end products-look it up!I ain't explainin it.....
poor nutrition (lacking micro- nutrients)
aspartame masking cases of MS and Parkinsons
Poor water quality
and last but not least...mycoplasmas and undetected parasites and small bugs...
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Posted by: chrysalis124812 on Mar 19, 2008 6:32 AM
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May the two-legged ones stop poisoning our planet.
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Mar 19, 2008 6:40 AM
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Now it's "auto-immune syndrome". Blamed for everything from your kid misbehaving in school to your grandmother's hernia.
Folks--I am not purposely trying to get a rise out of readers of this article on Alternet, but at 53 I have seen so many fearmongering scams maybe I have a right to be cynical. Usually, if you look deeply enough there is someone trying to make money or gain prestige or has an agenda. I tend to be very skeptical of such drastic claims as this article pushes.
I know I'm going to get clobbered for saying all of this. Please treat me gently.
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» Anxiety -- or Lupus or whatever...
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» AI - sounds to me like you are too scared....
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Mar 19, 2008 6:43 AM
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...our Lives are soaked in engineered chemicals...
...our Lives & immune systems are raised in incrementally less & less contact with Nature...
...& irresponsible US military engineers successfully blasted the planet into a virtual microwave of radiation fallout... (ignoring the effects of *deliberately* released depleted uranium... )
...& we're surprised we're sick?
One day, cockroach archeologists will wonder how plastics were created & realize humans did it...
Radiation From Bomb Tests Could Cause Thyroid Cancer,
But Screening Program Not Advisable - National Academy of Science
...& *gasp* who will pay the price?
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Posted by: snowhound on Mar 19, 2008 6:44 AM
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» don't forget the MERCURY inoculation preservatives...
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Posted by: silverside on Mar 19, 2008 7:57 AM
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Posted by: steven w on Mar 19, 2008 8:09 AM
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» RE: What we really should do.
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» That is true too.
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Posted by: WyrdSister on Mar 19, 2008 8:17 AM
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Our food supply is poisoning us; between factory farming and genetic alterations. I was almost diagnosed with Lupus, but after two years my blood work went back to normal. Stumped the rheumatologist, but a holistic doc hit it right on the head. Toxicity.
The only way we are going to survive is to change the way we think about and how we do things. First, we have to stop thinking that there is no connection between Mind-Body-Spirit. Then, we have to stop thinking that there is no connection between us. THEN, we have to stop thinking that there is no connection between what we eat and how we feel.
The only way we are going to be able to change this is with the only thing that makes sense to Corporation and that's the Almighty Dollar. Buy local, buy organic, make sure you know where all of your food comes from and that you can pronounce every thing in it. Don't let the USDA fool you either. USDA Organic means NOTHING! The government has no interest in keeping us healthy, in fact, its just the opposite in order to keep Big Pharma going, and all those meds for all these immune diseases is doing THAT nicely, dont cha think?
Sometimes I feel as though we are back in the Dark Ages when self-appointed authorities kept the masses stupid and fearful. It amazes me that in the Age of Information, that there are still so many who are so easily led and controlled.
Wake up and smell the chemicals and bullshit.
Peace
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» Our general food supply is indeed poisoning us...
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» "been Brown so long, we just THINK its Green..."
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Posted by: grn1 on Mar 19, 2008 8:32 AM
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Posted by: wildswan on Mar 19, 2008 8:39 AM
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There is no doubt for us what the cause of our problem is and we work hard to promote understanding of the effects of environmental toxins and harmful chemicals. We are the "canaries in the coal mine" which is the planet that all of us share.
Here are some websites to check out for more information about chemical sensitivities:
The Chemical Injury Information Network and the Human Ecology Action League
Also a couple of articles I have written about what it's like to have chemical sensitivities: How Can I Tell You and Me and My Ozone
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Posted by: The Big Raven on Mar 19, 2008 8:40 AM
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Cemtrails are real.
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Posted by: quiltartist on Mar 19, 2008 8:56 AM
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I have had dealt with poly autoimmune syndrome triggered by dental work for many years and am radically sensitive to chemicals, drugs, etc. I started this raw regimen to support my young daughter in law who has stage four cancer, a type previously seen only in women over 65, now appearing in women two decades younger! Two people in my community have cured (yes, cured), late stage cancer by going 90-100% vegan raw. They've been followed at our local clinic and an area hospital. One is 7 years out from aggressive breast cancer and had no surgery, chemo or radiation; she continues primarily raw. The other is 26 years out from stage 4 colon cancer for which he'd had the conventional 'works' after which his ca rebounded viciously invading abdomen, spine and brain. He only did the raw regimen for four years. I began this regimen strictly four months ago and am astonished by the dramatic and continuing changes in my condition for the better. My cells love this food. My hair is thickening. Dark age spots on my hands are fading and clearing. I'm beginning to have days when I feel normal, and it's been years and years. There is lots of peer reviewed science worldwide on the effects of this kind of regimen, some of it out of Harvard. Cherie Soria, of Living Light Institute, has just written a book on same with two Canadian scientists, due out soon. My MD at the environmental med clinic I go to since retox-ing myself two years ago by putting CFLs throughout my house (yeah, the gasified mercury inside is absorbed by the bulb glass and does get into the atmosphere...Philips Lighting acknowledges this in a press release in 2006 touting a new 'green' bulb with "glass that absorbs less mercury"), is a picture of radiant health, lean, strong, fit with glowing skin and hair. He has done the vegan raw 80-10-10 diet for three years. Not right for anyone with blood sugar problems because it's so high in fruit. I do one with the emphasis on green. He says his diet and other balances of vegan raw "stop autoimmune processes in their tracks," and urges patients who are willing to go through a sometimes bumpy transition to try it and see the amazing results. My raw with an emphasis on green, also includes wonderful sweets and desserts using stevia, and at this point I eat two to three oz grass-fed, free-range organic meats and organic free-range poultry once a day and a little raw organic goat cheese from a friend's dairy. Hope this helps someone.
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Posted by: RegK on Mar 19, 2008 9:04 AM
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Think about what you are exposed to with a purportedly 'clean' cat: the open-toilet of the litter box; the heavy chemicals used to treat the cat litter so it doesn't stink and doesn't have to be changed every day; bacteria-laden cat saliva on the cat's coat and whenever it licks you (a cat bite will land you in emergency with cellulitis, by the way)....
If you have an autoimmune disorder, try getting rid of your cat and see if your symptoms improve. The 4 of 12 MS sufferers I know who 'had' to get rid of their cats saw an near-immediate improvement in their symptoms! Coincidence? Maybe, but intuition is also important in science so don't disregard 'anecdotal evidence' out of hand.
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Posted by: lavendula13 on Mar 19, 2008 9:20 AM
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Some of my sources say the disease is not CIDP. Whatever it is, it is likely the result of hog feeding processes, which incorporate both animal protein (possibly from diseased animals) and growth hormones. Clearly, current factory farming policies are going to be the death of us eventually.
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Posted by: benzene on Mar 19, 2008 9:31 AM
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I am going to try to lay out the basics of the immune system very simply and without a lot of jargon so that we can all be on the same page. However, if I slip in any jargon that I have not previously clarified, please call me out on it in responses.
IMMUNOLOGY PRIMER:
The immune system is composed of 2 inter-related arms: the innate immune system and the adaptive immune system.
The innate immune system is composed of several types of cells, including macrophages, neutrophils, eosinophils, basophils, mast cells, and NK (natural killer) cells. The innate immune system is usually enough to kill and clear most invading pathogens by itself. It responds very rapidly to pathogens, within minutes and hours. The innate immune system also has the complement system, which is a protein chain reaction that results in invading pathogens being ripped open and made easier for other innate immune system cells to see and kill.
The adaptive immune system is a slower system with fewer basic cell types, the T cell and B cell. The adaptive immune system takes a couple of days to become fully activated. Its function is to mount a highly specific response against an invading pathogen. It does this by ultimately producing antibodies, which are made by B cells. The antibody made by any one clonal lineage of B cell is highly specific for only one epitope (which is like a shape of the part of a protein). T cells activate B cells and also produce specific kinds of inflammation and instructions to the innate immune system, which then focuses its effector actions (killing) to the adaptive immune system's instructions. There are several subsets of T cells, including but not limited to Th1, Th2, Th3, Th17, and Treg.
In between the innate and adaptive immune system are dendritic cells (DCs) and cytotoxic T cells (Tc cells). Tc cells are made along with helper T cells in the thymus, but kill virally infected cells instead of sending out instructions. DCs are more complex in that they circulate in the blood and crawl into various tissues to sample the environment and chew it up. After chewing stuff up, the DC loads it onto specialized molecules on its surface (MHCII) that T cells can recognize, so that, in effect, T cells can read what the DCs have chewed up in the context of the special molecules into which it was loaded. But when a pathogen activates a pathogen-asociated-molecular-pattern-recognizing receptor on the DC, the DC is activated and migrates to the lymph nodes and thymus to activate T cells. The T cells then produce specific kinds of inflammatory molecules and then help to active B cells to produce specific antibodies.
What goes wrong in autoimmune disease always lies with the adaptive immune system, at least as far as I know. In the case of asthma and allergy, a DC may be incorrectly activated by something that shouldn't activate it (hence an allergen) and then go on to activate T, and thus B, cells against it. It should be noted here that in allergy and asthma, a Th2 cell response is preferentially generated, which then leads to B cells producing IgE, a specific class of antibodies that can cue the release of histamines (hence antihistamine medications, such as Benadryl and Claritin) and prostaglandins from mast cells and eosinophils.
It was mentioned before that T and B cells each have specificity for one protein shape. This specificity is generated somewhat randomly and therefore will sometimes result in specificities that are found in the body naturally, these are termed self-reactive T and B cells. Normally, these would be selected against and changed or killed to prevent autoimmunity. However, this mechanism or one of the other protective mechanisms that usually protect against a self-reactive immune response may go wrong and lead to autoimmune disease.
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Mar 19, 2008 10:00 AM
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There isn't much research into this, or reporting on this, for the same reason that there isn't much coverage of the ill effects of many pharmaceutical drugs - the same people who control the chemical and pharmaceutical corporations also control the media corporations. Thanks to the Republicans, these same elites now also get to pick their regulators at the FDA, the DEA, and the EPA - all ex-employees of the chemical, pharmaceutical and fossil fuel industries.
There's a long, long list of blackouts on environmental pollution, in both academics and the media. PCBs (polycholorinated biphenyls), Monsanto's Roundup herbicide, the link between Parkinson's disease and agricultural pesticides - we can go on and on. The fact of the matter is that American elites like Warren Buffet want to make money, and they don't care how many people get killed, poisoned or maimed along the way, as long as they do so. If they can get the FDA to keep a dangerous drug on the market for an extra two years, so they can pull down an extra billion in sales (Vioxx, anyone? Celebrex?), they will. They've done it many times already.
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Posted by: manatthewindow on Mar 19, 2008 11:12 AM
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Half a century later, the entire continents of North America, Europe and much of Africa is being literally clouded over on a daily basis with various cocktails of biological agents that have been specifically designed to wear down the immune system. Much of this activity is connected to the HAARP weather-manipulation programme and so there are poisonous mineral components such as barium particulates which are mixed in with the laboratory-developed organic material. All of it is bad for the general health of the population and the politicians are sitting on their hands while the public is being poisoned and infected.
I have written to my political representative here in Scotland to ask him why I am being poisoned and infected with pathogens every day without my consent and without having been informed in advance that this was going to be done to me. I urge all Alternet subscribers to ask the same question of their representatives.
The medical establishment is also part of the cover-up, hence their resistance to accepting the very existence of various fatigue syndromes. Naturally, the corporate media have next-to-nothing to report on this issue. It would be a surprise if it were otherwise.
The one piece of good news is that some German scientists have started a legal action against their government this week and I hope that many more will follow their lead in other countries.
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Posted by: fanny666 on Mar 19, 2008 11:48 AM
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The Hygiene Hypothesis
Essentially, we did not evolve in sterile environments. The artificial sterility of Lysol everywhere is throwing our immune systems for a loop.
It doesn't explain certain things- for example, why is multiple sclerosis SO much more prevalent north of the 47th parallel?
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Posted by: sirial on Mar 19, 2008 8:14 PM
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What we did conclude, albeit anecdotally, was EMF exposure.....correlated to length of that exposure. We had coaxial cable under our floors, a high-power radio transmitter on the roof of the building, fluorescent lights overhead, and were plugged in to consoles with multiple computer screens.
Todays electronics are less hazardous, but many if not most of us are surrounded by what is characterized as electromagnetic smog. Not good for humans.
Of the 45 of us "elegible" to be included in the "study", 23 died of cancer, and most of the rest had autoimmune compromises, from arthritis to two cases of lupus.... The lupus cases alone are statistically improbable in such a small group.
This does not negate in the least effects of GMO crops and ludicrous use of pharmaceuticals, not to mention air and water quality.
The PTB have no interest in mitigating any of the above. It's up each of us to share information, to vote with our $ (or what's left of them).
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Posted by: Sinner4DiseaseControl on Mar 19, 2008 10:23 PM
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I am in very good health these days, though when I lived in Tokyo I was quite sick. One factor I discovered affecting me was the increased level of microwaves and other non-ionizing radiation due to proliferation of IT (cell phones, wi-fi, etc.). I suspect this is having quite an impact on others as well.
It bears mentioning. The immune system has been shown to be adversely affected by this radiation. For more information, see http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/
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personal observation...
it might be diet and environment...
but personally I think the main cause of disease is due to nutrition!
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Posted by: acers on Mar 21, 2008 12:21 PM
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Vitamin D is CRUCIAL in a healthy immune system and has been implicated in all the major cancers. There is more Multiple Sclerosis in northern latitudes. Every day more and more evidence is coming to light in the role it plays in osteoporosis, heart disease, cancer, asthma in children, the list could be almost endless.
And we wear sunscreen religiously, which BLOCKS Vitamin D formation in the skin, we cover up in the sun, because dermatologists have succeded in their campaigh against skin cancer. Admirable, but there must be balance.
400 iu, the government RDA, is a drop compared to what our skin makes: thousands of units in less than half an hour. Plus if you live north of San Francisco's latitude THERE IS NO WAY TO GET ENOUGH VITAMIN D FROM YOUR SKIN IN THE WINTER. Tanning beds, maybe. Food sources are tough. Supplementation is the only answer. The more pigment(melatonin) in your skin, the harder it is to make adequate levels. (Evolutionary adaptations). Eskimos got it from fish livers, darker skin people tend to live (evolved)closer to the equator. But with the current population movements, many people are seriously at risk.
Canada is starting to recommend 5000iu's a day to get a blood level above 50ng/l. Oh, and its cholecalciferol, Vitamin D3 that needs to be used. Just google vitamin d and see what you get.
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Well the monitor won't accept the link, too long. Just search Martin Pall, Phd.
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From colds to AIDS, there's a plentiful supply of externally provided prosthetics in the form of pills, therapies, tests and treatments (a large and lucrative sector of our economy). Why on earth would an individual body kept 'healthy' by all these external means from birth until death develop any of its own protections? Got a sniffle? take a pill.
It seems no real mystery at all. Just "ask your Doctor". It's a long and deep-seated aversion to anything having to do with Nature, it's even a Denial of Nature, a deeply ingrained and acquired wish to be Pure and Clean and Perfect.
Meanwhile, all evidence so far points to the very System that proclaims to all of us its concern with our Health: Capitalism.
There's the Dirt and the Grime of it all: we ourselves are auto-producing the very determinants of our auto-immunity deficiency and "outsourcing" our existence to external means. Now we just gotta wash of that Dirt with some Purell and get rid of that grime with some Pine-sol and continue living purely, cleanly, perfectly. Our Ideal? Bubble-boy.
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Iraqi doctor says
Sherwood Ross
http://www.uruknet.de/pic.php?f=duimage024.jpg
Full Article:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m42361&hd=&size=1&l=e
March 24, 2008 - 8:41am
The U.S., Great Britain and Israel are turning portions of the Middle East into a slice of radioactive hell. They are achieving this by firing what they call "depleted uranium" (DU) ammunition but which is, in fact, radioactive ammunition and it is perhaps the deadliest kind of tactical ammo ever devised in the warped mind of man.
There's a ton of data about this on the Internet for the skeptics: from sources such as the 1999 report of the International Atomic Energy Commission to oncologist members of England's Royal Society of Physicians to U.S. Veterans Administration hospital nuclear medicine doctors to officials at the Basra maternity and pediatric hospital to reporter Scott Peterson of the Christian Science Monitor. Peterson used a Geiger counter in August, 2003 to find radiation readings between 1,000 and 1,900 times normal where bunker buster bombs and munitions had exploded near Baghdad. After all, a typical bunker bomb is said to contain more than a ton of depleted uranium.
For a concise overview on radioactive warfare, read "DU And The Liberation of Iraq" by Christian Scherrer, a researcher at the Hiroshima Peace Institute, published on Znet on April 13, 2003. Scherrer states: "Based on the report of the 48th meeting issued by the UN Committee dealing with effects of Atomic radiation on 20th April 1999, noting the rapid increase in mortality caused by DU between 1991 and 1997, the IAEA document predicted the death of half a million Iraqis, noting that...'some 700-800 tons of depleted uranium was used in bombing the military zones south of Iraq. Such a quantity has a radiation effect, sufficient to cause 500,000 cases which may lead to death."
Scherrer writes, "In 1991 the DU ammunition was mainly used against Iraqi tanks in the desert near Basra, while in the present war DU is being used all over Iraq, even in densely populated areas including the heart of Baghdad, Mosul, Tikrit and other cities." He adds that, based on IAEA estimates and his previous research, "the death toll may surpass a million deaths over the next few years, with more to follow!"
Scherrer notes, incidentally, the UN's Human Rights Commission back in 1996 declared DU a weapon of mass destruction(WMD) and that those who use it are guilty of a crime against humanity. Among its users: the first President Bush, President Bill Clinton, who irradiated the Balkans, and the current occupant of the White House.
Now let's hear it from Iraqi doctors: Oncologist Dr. Jawad Al-Ali of Basra Hospital and Professor Husam al-Jarmokly of Baghdad University "showed a rapidly increasing death toll in Iraq since 1991 due to cancer and leukemia caused by U.S. radiological warfare," Scherrer writes, based on their presentation of December 1, 2002 at the Peace Memorial Hall in Hiroshima. Al-Ali, who is also a member of England's Royal Society of Physicians, is quoted in Feb. 5, 2001, "CounterPunch" as stating, "The desert dust carries death. Our studies indicate that more than 40% of the population around Basra will get cancer. We are living through another Hiroshima." (Basra is a city of 1.7 million. Does that mean 680,000 people will be stricken? That toll alone would be more than Hiroshima and Nagasaki's casualties.)
The same article also reported since 1990, the incident rate of leukemia in Iraq has grown by more than 600 percent and, similarly, "The leukemia rate in Sarajevo, pummeled by American bombs in 1996, has tripled in the last five years" and "NATO and UN peacekeepers in the region are also coming down with cancer."
The answer is clear: DU is the root cause of these maladies
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Posted by: colleenwhalen on Mar 24, 2008 4:19 PM
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85% of supermarket food has genetically engineered ingredients. Conventionally grown soy, canola and corn are 100% genetically engineered. High Fructose Corn syrup is made from monocropped, GMO corn - ALL supermarket brand canola oil is from monocropped, GMO and hydrogenated. Supermarket brand soy is also 100% GMO and toxic. Nearly EVERYTHING in the supermarket has high fructose corn syurp, canola and hydrozlyzed soy protien, soy additives.
This stuff is total crap! Supermarket beef, eggs, dairy and fish is GMO genetically engineered. 100% of supermarket cattle is "Factory Farmed" feedlot cattle raised by transnational corporate agribusiness cartels.
Watch the indie documenatary "King Corn" it will blow your mind.
The vast majority of Americans get little exercise, watch 50+ hours of TV a week, trashify their minds with tabloid trash, drink too much alcohol, smoke, credit card addiction and wandering aimlessly around shopping malls is considered "recreation".
No wonder we are dying off in record numbers from degenerative disease which are lifestyle based.
No problem with me if huge numbers of Americans die. Cleans up the DNA gene pool and Americans are "energy gluttons". USA has a mere 5% of global population - yet consumers 80% of the worlds petroleum. A nations of energy gluttons!
By lowering the population of the USA, it would drastically lower our "carbon footprint" and help global warming. Plus there would be less American citizens to fight imperialistic wars for global hegemony of international resources.
I am NOT a "Social Darwinist" but I have zero sympathy for folks who dig their grave with their knife and fork - then whine their HMO won't pay for highly invasive medical treatment...since 90% of their illensses are LIFESTYLE BASED!
Eat organic, join a natural food coop, grow your own food in a community garden, container planting on your apt balcony. Get some EXERCISE, quit smoking, drinking, bed hopping with multiple partners. Best way to avoid this alleged "mysterious" autoimmune disorder.
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Here's one more: http://rense.com/general81/emfs.htm
The rise of auto immune diseases and the proliferation of radiation from cell and other WIRELESS communication works well, as ONE cause, and so does it's connection to what seems to be an auto immune problem with the bees.
it explains
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http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm
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She was diagnosed in 1962 and died in 1987. The only thing we could track back to was the fact that as a young child she lived above an auto repair shop and as an adult she worked for a brake manufacturer and then in a number of automobile dealerships. Throughout this entire time she was exposed to petrochemical exhaust. I, too, while not developing any auto-immune disease (I'm now 56), have a profound sensitivity to petrochemicals, they can induce an asthma attack on hot days where I have to use an inhaler, and I get really horrible sinus infections/headaches if exposed to too much of them (this includes any cleaners, etc., that include petrochemicals - most do. We now use all natural cleaners some of which we make ourselves. To say this is not related to chemicals in our environment is both wrong-headed and evil.
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No more step areobics and kick boxing for me- I wasn't even able to get out of bed for months at a time.I often couldn't remember who I was. I couldn't eat without passing out, fainting was a regular occurance, as was extreme pain throughout my body, I could barely breathe, I had problems speaking (still do at times), and the list went on. Yet doctors told me over and over again that I "looked fine", and one even told me I was faking it. They regularly offered me anti-depressants and birth control pills (I couldn't breathe and they think I'm going to be wanting SEX???)
It took two years and over 20 doctors to find someone who knew how to treat mold and the illnesses that it can cause. I've been with my naturopath for five years and it's amazing that I can even sit here and write this. I still have some problems writing, but this post won't take four days to do, like it used to. I also see a wonderful chiropractor and between the two, I may someday have a real life again. It would help greatly to take some stress off of my situation by having disablity finally accept my claim, but being sick in bed for seven years doesn't count when it starts from toxic mold, and since I don't see a "real" doctor, even though in Oregon our ND's are licensed and often have more schooling than the average MD, I have even been turned down by disability lawyers. Everyone would be much happier if I took loads of drugs, even though one of my symptoms from the mold was severe liver damage (I was turning YELLOW). Luckily, as sick as I was, my common sense was still functioning. Some drugs have their place, but healing the immune system requires much more work than a little purple pill.
It's still legal in Oregon (and most states) to have dangerous amounts of mold in our public buildings- including schools. Mold in schools is one reason why we have so many kids with asthma these days. I know of teachers who have become completly disabled due to mold in the schools where they were teaching. Poor building maintenance and shoddy construction are the main reasons for mold, and there's no excuse for either one. Behavioral problems are also a symptom of mold in kids (ADD anyone?)I meet someone almost every day who has or knows someone who has mold, either in their home, school or place of work and guess what? They're really sick. Hmmm...
I fully agree with the posts about radiation. We sold our beloved home to save money and while house hunting came across many with a "greenspace" behind them, which in real estate terms means "huge cancer-causing tranformer towers". We don't have wi-fi, not only because of money (my insurance doesn't cover my doctors, so that coupled with not being able to work equals "dial-up for 8.95"), but even when the tide turns, and it will,wi-fi is not the way for me to go. We also saw houses with serious visual mold and water damage, even though I prewarned agents about my needing a safe well-built and well-maintained house. I don't give a shit about "granite counters and stainless steel appliances"- I just want a healthy house! (It took two years, but we finally got one.)
Excellent article and excellent posts. Thank you all, and thank you AlterNet!
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It's getting worse with more and more vaccines added to the schedule. For example, look at the timing of the huge increase in peanut allergies. I knew no one growing up in the 1960's with a peanut allergy. Today, the schools are filled with them, ever since the Hep. B vaccine was recommended in 1991. Coincidence?
Sure, there are many other environmental causes of disease, but what closer to you than what's in your own blood?
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we're also doing a fine job of destroying our immune systems with our chemical-laden environment. just helping nature along.
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Posted by: PaulK on Mar 19, 2008 4:52 AM
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Instant autoimmune diseases mean that the offender gets nailed in court, because it's obvious who poisoned the victim. (er, the victim dies sometimes, sorry about that).
We need these victims to save us all from cancer (and 1 of 2 kids will see cancer in this lifetime). The same toxins that cause cancer will set off these illnesses.
Save the humans!
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Posted by: opmoc on Mar 19, 2008 4:56 AM
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50 years ago children only received vaccinations agains the most life threatening diseases - and tended to catch and naturally recover from a whole host of other illnesses. I suspect that this had a far better life-long effect at protecting the immune system.
There is also the obsession with cleanliness. Over-clean houses and children not playing outside so much amongst all the natural environmental dangers that they build up resistance to.
The end product is that children appear to be very much healthier when children - but have they exchanged good health as children for a loss of natural immunity - which takes its toll when they are older?
This is merely an idea, and I could of course be completely wrong and the real cause is poisoning by processed foods, over prescribed drugs and junk like aspartame.
In my view its probably wise to keep your children away from the health profession as much as possible, except when seriously ill (which doesn't mean a cold). Also bring them up such that when they get home from school they ask for a raw carrot - rather than a mars bar and a bag of crisps (but wash the chemicals off it first)
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» add fluoride, and (as you allude to) BIG PHARMA!!!
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Posted by: drricklippin on Mar 19, 2008 5:24 AM
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Kathleen has to take twenty-two medications about an hour before she tries to get up, just so she can handle the pain when her feet hit the floor.
I cannot conceive that this is good for the patient?
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The Book is so right..the media are not aware of the sheer cost in both resources and human quality of life and of life itself due to Autoimmune Disease.
Also no one yet seems to understand the need to cure the root cause of All Autoimmune Diseases...Pharma's are not interested in cures..only costly treatments...this is a national and worldwide disgrace..governments should demand the pharmas direct their funding into finding a common cure for all these diseases...
Otherwise us and then our children and then our children's children will suffer and die..
The need is great the health system cannot cope now...we need a revolution in thinking by government ..forget Bird Flu the real epidemic is already here !
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Posted by: Constitutional_Patriot on Mar 19, 2008 6:14 AM
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Let's take a look at a few facts relevent to the following question:
Why do the ultra-rich pretend to "donate" to what is euphemistically called "cancer research"?
1. Way back in the 1860's, "Old Bill" Rockefeller, the itinerant pappy of John D. Sr. and a patent medicine showman, used to sell bottled raw petroleum as a cure for cancer.
2. The DuPont's experiments in fluorine chemistry led to vast amounts of the toxic, cancer-causing stuff being dumped in our water supply -- This is now known as "fluoridation".
These very same Merchants of Death (primarily the members of the old "trust" families") not only commit treason for profit during time of war, but have also created the vast system of "cancer treatment" which has no desire to seek a real, permanent cure for cancer.
Your body is chattel for their profit - when are you going to vote like you understand what they have done to you?
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» Really???
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» REALLY!
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» How many TONNES of NUCLEAR FALLOUT from Weapons Testing? or PLASTICS contamination?
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Their corporate preference is for the profits generated from "treatment" - a new koind of rent all patients must now pay on their own bodies.
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here are common denominators seen in most cases..in some combination.....
Low thyroid....missed by 80% of physicians....Rt3 and free t3 never measured..
adrenal stress
estrogen stress
Leaky gut syndrome
dental mercury
history of birth control pills and female follicular and luteal cycle problems
blood sugar disorders from too high ingestion of carbs
type 2 diabetes or pre-diabetes
ingestion of high amounts of free radical causing omega 6 and yes omega 3 oils (learn your biochemistry (qualitative) ingestion of omega 3 and (quantitative of Omega 6)will also increase your free radical production beyond your body's ability to quench them, this is the antithises to todays wisdom or Mantra of TAKE FISH OIL!
glycated end products-look it up!I ain't explainin it.....
poor nutrition (lacking micro- nutrients)
aspartame masking cases of MS and Parkinsons
Poor water quality
and last but not least...mycoplasmas and undetected parasites and small bugs...
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Posted by: chrysalis124812 on Mar 19, 2008 6:32 AM
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May the two-legged ones stop poisoning our planet.
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Now it's "auto-immune syndrome". Blamed for everything from your kid misbehaving in school to your grandmother's hernia.
Folks--I am not purposely trying to get a rise out of readers of this article on Alternet, but at 53 I have seen so many fearmongering scams maybe I have a right to be cynical. Usually, if you look deeply enough there is someone trying to make money or gain prestige or has an agenda. I tend to be very skeptical of such drastic claims as this article pushes.
I know I'm going to get clobbered for saying all of this. Please treat me gently.
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» Clobber - you need to change your basic attitude to Life!
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» Anxiety -- or Lupus or whatever...
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» AI - sounds to me like you are too scared....
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...our Lives are soaked in engineered chemicals...
...our Lives & immune systems are raised in incrementally less & less contact with Nature...
...& irresponsible US military engineers successfully blasted the planet into a virtual microwave of radiation fallout... (ignoring the effects of *deliberately* released depleted uranium... )
...& we're surprised we're sick?
One day, cockroach archeologists will wonder how plastics were created & realize humans did it...
Radiation From Bomb Tests Could Cause Thyroid Cancer,
But Screening Program Not Advisable - National Academy of Science
...& *gasp* who will pay the price?
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» don't forget the MERCURY inoculation preservatives...
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» Wrong
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» Snowhound, you're absolutely right!
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» RE: What we really should do.
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Our food supply is poisoning us; between factory farming and genetic alterations. I was almost diagnosed with Lupus, but after two years my blood work went back to normal. Stumped the rheumatologist, but a holistic doc hit it right on the head. Toxicity.
The only way we are going to survive is to change the way we think about and how we do things. First, we have to stop thinking that there is no connection between Mind-Body-Spirit. Then, we have to stop thinking that there is no connection between us. THEN, we have to stop thinking that there is no connection between what we eat and how we feel.
The only way we are going to be able to change this is with the only thing that makes sense to Corporation and that's the Almighty Dollar. Buy local, buy organic, make sure you know where all of your food comes from and that you can pronounce every thing in it. Don't let the USDA fool you either. USDA Organic means NOTHING! The government has no interest in keeping us healthy, in fact, its just the opposite in order to keep Big Pharma going, and all those meds for all these immune diseases is doing THAT nicely, dont cha think?
Sometimes I feel as though we are back in the Dark Ages when self-appointed authorities kept the masses stupid and fearful. It amazes me that in the Age of Information, that there are still so many who are so easily led and controlled.
Wake up and smell the chemicals and bullshit.
Peace
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Posted by: wildswan on Mar 19, 2008 8:39 AM
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There is no doubt for us what the cause of our problem is and we work hard to promote understanding of the effects of environmental toxins and harmful chemicals. We are the "canaries in the coal mine" which is the planet that all of us share.
Here are some websites to check out for more information about chemical sensitivities:
The Chemical Injury Information Network and the Human Ecology Action League
Also a couple of articles I have written about what it's like to have chemical sensitivities: How Can I Tell You and Me and My Ozone
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Posted by: The Big Raven on Mar 19, 2008 8:40 AM
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Cemtrails are real.
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Posted by: quiltartist on Mar 19, 2008 8:56 AM
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I have had dealt with poly autoimmune syndrome triggered by dental work for many years and am radically sensitive to chemicals, drugs, etc. I started this raw regimen to support my young daughter in law who has stage four cancer, a type previously seen only in women over 65, now appearing in women two decades younger! Two people in my community have cured (yes, cured), late stage cancer by going 90-100% vegan raw. They've been followed at our local clinic and an area hospital. One is 7 years out from aggressive breast cancer and had no surgery, chemo or radiation; she continues primarily raw. The other is 26 years out from stage 4 colon cancer for which he'd had the conventional 'works' after which his ca rebounded viciously invading abdomen, spine and brain. He only did the raw regimen for four years. I began this regimen strictly four months ago and am astonished by the dramatic and continuing changes in my condition for the better. My cells love this food. My hair is thickening. Dark age spots on my hands are fading and clearing. I'm beginning to have days when I feel normal, and it's been years and years. There is lots of peer reviewed science worldwide on the effects of this kind of regimen, some of it out of Harvard. Cherie Soria, of Living Light Institute, has just written a book on same with two Canadian scientists, due out soon. My MD at the environmental med clinic I go to since retox-ing myself two years ago by putting CFLs throughout my house (yeah, the gasified mercury inside is absorbed by the bulb glass and does get into the atmosphere...Philips Lighting acknowledges this in a press release in 2006 touting a new 'green' bulb with "glass that absorbs less mercury"), is a picture of radiant health, lean, strong, fit with glowing skin and hair. He has done the vegan raw 80-10-10 diet for three years. Not right for anyone with blood sugar problems because it's so high in fruit. I do one with the emphasis on green. He says his diet and other balances of vegan raw "stop autoimmune processes in their tracks," and urges patients who are willing to go through a sometimes bumpy transition to try it and see the amazing results. My raw with an emphasis on green, also includes wonderful sweets and desserts using stevia, and at this point I eat two to three oz grass-fed, free-range organic meats and organic free-range poultry once a day and a little raw organic goat cheese from a friend's dairy. Hope this helps someone.
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Posted by: RegK on Mar 19, 2008 9:04 AM
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Think about what you are exposed to with a purportedly 'clean' cat: the open-toilet of the litter box; the heavy chemicals used to treat the cat litter so it doesn't stink and doesn't have to be changed every day; bacteria-laden cat saliva on the cat's coat and whenever it licks you (a cat bite will land you in emergency with cellulitis, by the way)....
If you have an autoimmune disorder, try getting rid of your cat and see if your symptoms improve. The 4 of 12 MS sufferers I know who 'had' to get rid of their cats saw an near-immediate improvement in their symptoms! Coincidence? Maybe, but intuition is also important in science so don't disregard 'anecdotal evidence' out of hand.
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Posted by: lavendula13 on Mar 19, 2008 9:20 AM
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Some of my sources say the disease is not CIDP. Whatever it is, it is likely the result of hog feeding processes, which incorporate both animal protein (possibly from diseased animals) and growth hormones. Clearly, current factory farming policies are going to be the death of us eventually.
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Posted by: benzene on Mar 19, 2008 9:31 AM
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I am going to try to lay out the basics of the immune system very simply and without a lot of jargon so that we can all be on the same page. However, if I slip in any jargon that I have not previously clarified, please call me out on it in responses.
IMMUNOLOGY PRIMER:
The immune system is composed of 2 inter-related arms: the innate immune system and the adaptive immune system.
The innate immune system is composed of several types of cells, including macrophages, neutrophils, eosinophils, basophils, mast cells, and NK (natural killer) cells. The innate immune system is usually enough to kill and clear most invading pathogens by itself. It responds very rapidly to pathogens, within minutes and hours. The innate immune system also has the complement system, which is a protein chain reaction that results in invading pathogens being ripped open and made easier for other innate immune system cells to see and kill.
The adaptive immune system is a slower system with fewer basic cell types, the T cell and B cell. The adaptive immune system takes a couple of days to become fully activated. Its function is to mount a highly specific response against an invading pathogen. It does this by ultimately producing antibodies, which are made by B cells. The antibody made by any one clonal lineage of B cell is highly specific for only one epitope (which is like a shape of the part of a protein). T cells activate B cells and also produce specific kinds of inflammation and instructions to the innate immune system, which then focuses its effector actions (killing) to the adaptive immune system's instructions. There are several subsets of T cells, including but not limited to Th1, Th2, Th3, Th17, and Treg.
In between the innate and adaptive immune system are dendritic cells (DCs) and cytotoxic T cells (Tc cells). Tc cells are made along with helper T cells in the thymus, but kill virally infected cells instead of sending out instructions. DCs are more complex in that they circulate in the blood and crawl into various tissues to sample the environment and chew it up. After chewing stuff up, the DC loads it onto specialized molecules on its surface (MHCII) that T cells can recognize, so that, in effect, T cells can read what the DCs have chewed up in the context of the special molecules into which it was loaded. But when a pathogen activates a pathogen-asociated-molecular-pattern-recognizing receptor on the DC, the DC is activated and migrates to the lymph nodes and thymus to activate T cells. The T cells then produce specific kinds of inflammatory molecules and then help to active B cells to produce specific antibodies.
What goes wrong in autoimmune disease always lies with the adaptive immune system, at least as far as I know. In the case of asthma and allergy, a DC may be incorrectly activated by something that shouldn't activate it (hence an allergen) and then go on to activate T, and thus B, cells against it. It should be noted here that in allergy and asthma, a Th2 cell response is preferentially generated, which then leads to B cells producing IgE, a specific class of antibodies that can cue the release of histamines (hence antihistamine medications, such as Benadryl and Claritin) and prostaglandins from mast cells and eosinophils.
It was mentioned before that T and B cells each have specificity for one protein shape. This specificity is generated somewhat randomly and therefore will sometimes result in specificities that are found in the body naturally, these are termed self-reactive T and B cells. Normally, these would be selected against and changed or killed to prevent autoimmunity. However, this mechanism or one of the other protective mechanisms that usually protect against a self-reactive immune response may go wrong and lead to autoimmune disease.
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Mar 19, 2008 10:00 AM
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There isn't much research into this, or reporting on this, for the same reason that there isn't much coverage of the ill effects of many pharmaceutical drugs - the same people who control the chemical and pharmaceutical corporations also control the media corporations. Thanks to the Republicans, these same elites now also get to pick their regulators at the FDA, the DEA, and the EPA - all ex-employees of the chemical, pharmaceutical and fossil fuel industries.
There's a long, long list of blackouts on environmental pollution, in both academics and the media. PCBs (polycholorinated biphenyls), Monsanto's Roundup herbicide, the link between Parkinson's disease and agricultural pesticides - we can go on and on. The fact of the matter is that American elites like Warren Buffet want to make money, and they don't care how many people get killed, poisoned or maimed along the way, as long as they do so. If they can get the FDA to keep a dangerous drug on the market for an extra two years, so they can pull down an extra billion in sales (Vioxx, anyone? Celebrex?), they will. They've done it many times already.
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Posted by: manatthewindow on Mar 19, 2008 11:12 AM
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Half a century later, the entire continents of North America, Europe and much of Africa is being literally clouded over on a daily basis with various cocktails of biological agents that have been specifically designed to wear down the immune system. Much of this activity is connected to the HAARP weather-manipulation programme and so there are poisonous mineral components such as barium particulates which are mixed in with the laboratory-developed organic material. All of it is bad for the general health of the population and the politicians are sitting on their hands while the public is being poisoned and infected.
I have written to my political representative here in Scotland to ask him why I am being poisoned and infected with pathogens every day without my consent and without having been informed in advance that this was going to be done to me. I urge all Alternet subscribers to ask the same question of their representatives.
The medical establishment is also part of the cover-up, hence their resistance to accepting the very existence of various fatigue syndromes. Naturally, the corporate media have next-to-nothing to report on this issue. It would be a surprise if it were otherwise.
The one piece of good news is that some German scientists have started a legal action against their government this week and I hope that many more will follow their lead in other countries.
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Posted by: fanny666 on Mar 19, 2008 11:48 AM
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The Hygiene Hypothesis
Essentially, we did not evolve in sterile environments. The artificial sterility of Lysol everywhere is throwing our immune systems for a loop.
It doesn't explain certain things- for example, why is multiple sclerosis SO much more prevalent north of the 47th parallel?
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Posted by: sirial on Mar 19, 2008 8:14 PM
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What we did conclude, albeit anecdotally, was EMF exposure.....correlated to length of that exposure. We had coaxial cable under our floors, a high-power radio transmitter on the roof of the building, fluorescent lights overhead, and were plugged in to consoles with multiple computer screens.
Todays electronics are less hazardous, but many if not most of us are surrounded by what is characterized as electromagnetic smog. Not good for humans.
Of the 45 of us "elegible" to be included in the "study", 23 died of cancer, and most of the rest had autoimmune compromises, from arthritis to two cases of lupus.... The lupus cases alone are statistically improbable in such a small group.
This does not negate in the least effects of GMO crops and ludicrous use of pharmaceuticals, not to mention air and water quality.
The PTB have no interest in mitigating any of the above. It's up each of us to share information, to vote with our $ (or what's left of them).
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Posted by: Sinner4DiseaseControl on Mar 19, 2008 10:23 PM
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I am in very good health these days, though when I lived in Tokyo I was quite sick. One factor I discovered affecting me was the increased level of microwaves and other non-ionizing radiation due to proliferation of IT (cell phones, wi-fi, etc.). I suspect this is having quite an impact on others as well.
It bears mentioning. The immune system has been shown to be adversely affected by this radiation. For more information, see http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/
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personal observation...
it might be diet and environment...
but personally I think the main cause of disease is due to nutrition!
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Posted by: acers on Mar 21, 2008 12:21 PM
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Vitamin D is CRUCIAL in a healthy immune system and has been implicated in all the major cancers. There is more Multiple Sclerosis in northern latitudes. Every day more and more evidence is coming to light in the role it plays in osteoporosis, heart disease, cancer, asthma in children, the list could be almost endless.
And we wear sunscreen religiously, which BLOCKS Vitamin D formation in the skin, we cover up in the sun, because dermatologists have succeded in their campaigh against skin cancer. Admirable, but there must be balance.
400 iu, the government RDA, is a drop compared to what our skin makes: thousands of units in less than half an hour. Plus if you live north of San Francisco's latitude THERE IS NO WAY TO GET ENOUGH VITAMIN D FROM YOUR SKIN IN THE WINTER. Tanning beds, maybe. Food sources are tough. Supplementation is the only answer. The more pigment(melatonin) in your skin, the harder it is to make adequate levels. (Evolutionary adaptations). Eskimos got it from fish livers, darker skin people tend to live (evolved)closer to the equator. But with the current population movements, many people are seriously at risk.
Canada is starting to recommend 5000iu's a day to get a blood level above 50ng/l. Oh, and its cholecalciferol, Vitamin D3 that needs to be used. Just google vitamin d and see what you get.
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Well the monitor won't accept the link, too long. Just search Martin Pall, Phd.
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From colds to AIDS, there's a plentiful supply of externally provided prosthetics in the form of pills, therapies, tests and treatments (a large and lucrative sector of our economy). Why on earth would an individual body kept 'healthy' by all these external means from birth until death develop any of its own protections? Got a sniffle? take a pill.
It seems no real mystery at all. Just "ask your Doctor". It's a long and deep-seated aversion to anything having to do with Nature, it's even a Denial of Nature, a deeply ingrained and acquired wish to be Pure and Clean and Perfect.
Meanwhile, all evidence so far points to the very System that proclaims to all of us its concern with our Health: Capitalism.
There's the Dirt and the Grime of it all: we ourselves are auto-producing the very determinants of our auto-immunity deficiency and "outsourcing" our existence to external means. Now we just gotta wash of that Dirt with some Purell and get rid of that grime with some Pine-sol and continue living purely, cleanly, perfectly. Our Ideal? Bubble-boy.
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Iraqi doctor says
Sherwood Ross
http://www.uruknet.de/pic.php?f=duimage024.jpg
Full Article:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m42361&hd=&size=1&l=e
March 24, 2008 - 8:41am
The U.S., Great Britain and Israel are turning portions of the Middle East into a slice of radioactive hell. They are achieving this by firing what they call "depleted uranium" (DU) ammunition but which is, in fact, radioactive ammunition and it is perhaps the deadliest kind of tactical ammo ever devised in the warped mind of man.
There's a ton of data about this on the Internet for the skeptics: from sources such as the 1999 report of the International Atomic Energy Commission to oncologist members of England's Royal Society of Physicians to U.S. Veterans Administration hospital nuclear medicine doctors to officials at the Basra maternity and pediatric hospital to reporter Scott Peterson of the Christian Science Monitor. Peterson used a Geiger counter in August, 2003 to find radiation readings between 1,000 and 1,900 times normal where bunker buster bombs and munitions had exploded near Baghdad. After all, a typical bunker bomb is said to contain more than a ton of depleted uranium.
For a concise overview on radioactive warfare, read "DU And The Liberation of Iraq" by Christian Scherrer, a researcher at the Hiroshima Peace Institute, published on Znet on April 13, 2003. Scherrer states: "Based on the report of the 48th meeting issued by the UN Committee dealing with effects of Atomic radiation on 20th April 1999, noting the rapid increase in mortality caused by DU between 1991 and 1997, the IAEA document predicted the death of half a million Iraqis, noting that...'some 700-800 tons of depleted uranium was used in bombing the military zones south of Iraq. Such a quantity has a radiation effect, sufficient to cause 500,000 cases which may lead to death."
Scherrer writes, "In 1991 the DU ammunition was mainly used against Iraqi tanks in the desert near Basra, while in the present war DU is being used all over Iraq, even in densely populated areas including the heart of Baghdad, Mosul, Tikrit and other cities." He adds that, based on IAEA estimates and his previous research, "the death toll may surpass a million deaths over the next few years, with more to follow!"
Scherrer notes, incidentally, the UN's Human Rights Commission back in 1996 declared DU a weapon of mass destruction(WMD) and that those who use it are guilty of a crime against humanity. Among its users: the first President Bush, President Bill Clinton, who irradiated the Balkans, and the current occupant of the White House.
Now let's hear it from Iraqi doctors: Oncologist Dr. Jawad Al-Ali of Basra Hospital and Professor Husam al-Jarmokly of Baghdad University "showed a rapidly increasing death toll in Iraq since 1991 due to cancer and leukemia caused by U.S. radiological warfare," Scherrer writes, based on their presentation of December 1, 2002 at the Peace Memorial Hall in Hiroshima. Al-Ali, who is also a member of England's Royal Society of Physicians, is quoted in Feb. 5, 2001, "CounterPunch" as stating, "The desert dust carries death. Our studies indicate that more than 40% of the population around Basra will get cancer. We are living through another Hiroshima." (Basra is a city of 1.7 million. Does that mean 680,000 people will be stricken? That toll alone would be more than Hiroshima and Nagasaki's casualties.)
The same article also reported since 1990, the incident rate of leukemia in Iraq has grown by more than 600 percent and, similarly, "The leukemia rate in Sarajevo, pummeled by American bombs in 1996, has tripled in the last five years" and "NATO and UN peacekeepers in the region are also coming down with cancer."
The answer is clear: DU is the root cause of these maladies
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Posted by: colleenwhalen on Mar 24, 2008 4:19 PM
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85% of supermarket food has genetically engineered ingredients. Conventionally grown soy, canola and corn are 100% genetically engineered. High Fructose Corn syrup is made from monocropped, GMO corn - ALL supermarket brand canola oil is from monocropped, GMO and hydrogenated. Supermarket brand soy is also 100% GMO and toxic. Nearly EVERYTHING in the supermarket has high fructose corn syurp, canola and hydrozlyzed soy protien, soy additives.
This stuff is total crap! Supermarket beef, eggs, dairy and fish is GMO genetically engineered. 100% of supermarket cattle is "Factory Farmed" feedlot cattle raised by transnational corporate agribusiness cartels.
Watch the indie documenatary "King Corn" it will blow your mind.
The vast majority of Americans get little exercise, watch 50+ hours of TV a week, trashify their minds with tabloid trash, drink too much alcohol, smoke, credit card addiction and wandering aimlessly around shopping malls is considered "recreation".
No wonder we are dying off in record numbers from degenerative disease which are lifestyle based.
No problem with me if huge numbers of Americans die. Cleans up the DNA gene pool and Americans are "energy gluttons". USA has a mere 5% of global population - yet consumers 80% of the worlds petroleum. A nations of energy gluttons!
By lowering the population of the USA, it would drastically lower our "carbon footprint" and help global warming. Plus there would be less American citizens to fight imperialistic wars for global hegemony of international resources.
I am NOT a "Social Darwinist" but I have zero sympathy for folks who dig their grave with their knife and fork - then whine their HMO won't pay for highly invasive medical treatment...since 90% of their illensses are LIFESTYLE BASED!
Eat organic, join a natural food coop, grow your own food in a community garden, container planting on your apt balcony. Get some EXERCISE, quit smoking, drinking, bed hopping with multiple partners. Best way to avoid this alleged "mysterious" autoimmune disorder.
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Posted by: Ohjin on Mar 24, 2008 5:41 PM
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Here's one more: http://rense.com/general81/emfs.htm
The rise of auto immune diseases and the proliferation of radiation from cell and other WIRELESS communication works well, as ONE cause, and so does it's connection to what seems to be an auto immune problem with the bees.
it explains
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http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm
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She was diagnosed in 1962 and died in 1987. The only thing we could track back to was the fact that as a young child she lived above an auto repair shop and as an adult she worked for a brake manufacturer and then in a number of automobile dealerships. Throughout this entire time she was exposed to petrochemical exhaust. I, too, while not developing any auto-immune disease (I'm now 56), have a profound sensitivity to petrochemicals, they can induce an asthma attack on hot days where I have to use an inhaler, and I get really horrible sinus infections/headaches if exposed to too much of them (this includes any cleaners, etc., that include petrochemicals - most do. We now use all natural cleaners some of which we make ourselves. To say this is not related to chemicals in our environment is both wrong-headed and evil.
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Posted by: Maxwell House on Mar 27, 2008 12:58 PM
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No more step areobics and kick boxing for me- I wasn't even able to get out of bed for months at a time.I often couldn't remember who I was. I couldn't eat without passing out, fainting was a regular occurance, as was extreme pain throughout my body, I could barely breathe, I had problems speaking (still do at times), and the list went on. Yet doctors told me over and over again that I "looked fine", and one even told me I was faking it. They regularly offered me anti-depressants and birth control pills (I couldn't breathe and they think I'm going to be wanting SEX???)
It took two years and over 20 doctors to find someone who knew how to treat mold and the illnesses that it can cause. I've been with my naturopath for five years and it's amazing that I can even sit here and write this. I still have some problems writing, but this post won't take four days to do, like it used to. I also see a wonderful chiropractor and between the two, I may someday have a real life again. It would help greatly to take some stress off of my situation by having disablity finally accept my claim, but being sick in bed for seven years doesn't count when it starts from toxic mold, and since I don't see a "real" doctor, even though in Oregon our ND's are licensed and often have more schooling than the average MD, I have even been turned down by disability lawyers. Everyone would be much happier if I took loads of drugs, even though one of my symptoms from the mold was severe liver damage (I was turning YELLOW). Luckily, as sick as I was, my common sense was still functioning. Some drugs have their place, but healing the immune system requires much more work than a little purple pill.
It's still legal in Oregon (and most states) to have dangerous amounts of mold in our public buildings- including schools. Mold in schools is one reason why we have so many kids with asthma these days. I know of teachers who have become completly disabled due to mold in the schools where they were teaching. Poor building maintenance and shoddy construction are the main reasons for mold, and there's no excuse for either one. Behavioral problems are also a symptom of mold in kids (ADD anyone?)I meet someone almost every day who has or knows someone who has mold, either in their home, school or place of work and guess what? They're really sick. Hmmm...
I fully agree with the posts about radiation. We sold our beloved home to save money and while house hunting came across many with a "greenspace" behind them, which in real estate terms means "huge cancer-causing tranformer towers". We don't have wi-fi, not only because of money (my insurance doesn't cover my doctors, so that coupled with not being able to work equals "dial-up for 8.95"), but even when the tide turns, and it will,wi-fi is not the way for me to go. We also saw houses with serious visual mold and water damage, even though I prewarned agents about my needing a safe well-built and well-maintained house. I don't give a shit about "granite counters and stainless steel appliances"- I just want a healthy house! (It took two years, but we finally got one.)
Excellent article and excellent posts. Thank you all, and thank you AlterNet!
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Posted by: Ruby on Apr 10, 2008 7:31 AM
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It's getting worse with more and more vaccines added to the schedule. For example, look at the timing of the huge increase in peanut allergies. I knew no one growing up in the 1960's with a peanut allergy. Today, the schools are filled with them, ever since the Hep. B vaccine was recommended in 1991. Coincidence?
Sure, there are many other environmental causes of disease, but what closer to you than what's in your own blood?
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Posted by: Cathyblj on Apr 18, 2008 2:48 PM
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