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Does Bush Hate Kids?
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Presidents might veto legislation that is costly, ill conceived, or ineffective, but in this case, most people agree that SCHIP is a very successful program. And therein lies the problem.
"The reason that Bush is so opposed to SCHIP is the same reason he was so determined to privatize Social Security, which is that they're both programs that work," said economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman in a recent BuzzFlash interview. "You have to understand, that is the point of view of somebody who really wants to undo the New Deal -- and if possible ... get things back to the way they were before Teddy Roosevelt and the 'Socialists' came in.
"The worst thing is a government program that actually does help people," Krugman continued. "So the SCHIP is a really bad thing, from Bush's point of view, because it works so well. It might lead people to say, well, if we can do this for lower-income children, why can't we do it for lots of other people who need guaranteed health care? So it's the determination, on his part, to do this veto, even though there's a short-term political cost, because they're deathly afraid that people will look at SCHIP and say, gee, actually the government can do some good."
The battle of SCHIP is really a battle about the role of government. Despite large numbers of Americans who support government-funded programs to keep people healthy, like Medicare, Medicaid and SCHIP, Bush represents a radical anti-government position that demonstrates how a narrow number of lawmakers -- little more than a third of Congress voted against SCHIP -- are willing to deny other families the same level of quality, government-financed health care that Congress, the military, most federal agencies, and even the President himself, enjoy.
In the run up to his veto, and in the days since, Bush has continually preyed upon people's fears of socialized medicine, saying that SCHIP is a slippery slope toward universal, government-sponsored health care.
He told the Washington Post in July that his "concern is that ... you're really beginning to open up an avenue for people to switch from private insurance to the government." And Bush later hammered the point home, telling the Lancaster Chamber of Commerce that "I believe in private medicine, not the federal government running the health care system."
The White House resource site for health care describes SCHIP as "[A]n incremental step toward the Democrats' goal of a government-run health care system."
That anti-government mentality explains why so many conservatives came out swinging when Graeme Frost, a 12-year-old boy who received government-sponsored health services after barely surviving a car crash in 2004, filed a formal objection to the children's health scandal and later delivered a radio address for the Democrats, saying, "If it weren't for CHIP, I might not be here today."
Graeme spent a week in a coma and, three years later, still has a paralyzed vocal cord. His sister Gemma, who was also in the car, sustained severe brain damage.
But that didn't stop Republicans and media outlets alike from swiftboating the Frost family. Syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin, for example, accused them of being well-heeled freeloaders. When that theory turned out to be a lie, it didn't really matter. Malkin and other right-wingers simply moved their baseless smear campaign to another SCHIP recipient: Bethany Wilkerson, a two-year-old who was born with a serious heart problem. (Click the video above to learn more about Bethany and how you can help defeat Bush's SCHIP veto.)
In short, Bush rejected an expansion of a program that could have insured millions of children for five years on less than what it costs to spend another four months in Iraq. Given that Bush has only vetoed four bills in his two terms in office, never questioning outrageous earmarks on bloated spending bills, the stubborn illogic of his maneuvering is stunning.
Which brings us to the here and now. The House will vote again tomorrow (Thursday) on a SCHIP veto override, and you can lean on lawmakers to help make it happen. While the Senate approved the insurance bill by a large enough margin to defeat Bush's veto, at 265-159, the House fell short by some two dozen votes. Now, groups across ideological lines and tax brackets are banding together like rarely before to put pressure on some key House Republican -- and Democrat -- holdouts to cross over. In fact, according to FireDogLake, at least two already have: Baron Hill (D-Ind.) and Mike McIntyre (D-N.C.).
Other remaining holdouts include Steve Chabot (R-Oh.), Thelma Drake (R-Va.), Tom Feeney (R-Fla.), Sam Graves (R-Mo.), Joe Knollenberg (R-Mich.), Randy Kuhl (R-N.Y.), Jim Marshall (D-Ga.), Bob Etheridge (D-N.C.), Gene Taylor (D-Miss.), Jim Saxton (R-N.J.), Greg Walden (R-Or.), and Tim Walberg (R-Mich.) -- many of them politically vulnerable, some even according to Karl Rove himself. And now they're having to answer to everyone from their own constituents to groups as diverse as MoveOn.Org and the Catholic League, both of whom have begun ongoing ads and protests in hopes of changing the legislators' minds and defeating Bush's ideologically driven veto. According to recent reports from the New York Times, Washington Post and onward, Republicans are beginning to see that ignoring the public will on issues like health care and the war in Iraq can be costly indeed.
If you're interested in getting involved in the debate, here are some places you could place your well-deserved outrage, starting with the holdouts themselves, whose contact information is clickable above. You can also join any number of efforts, from protests to vigils to television ads, now underway in hopes of overriding Bush's veto.
So far, many of the efforts are showing promise. Grassroots organizer Adrian Russell-Falla, a volunteer for MoveOn's Portland Council, says the willingness he has seen from local residents to get behind the override effort is unprecedented.
"We have never been involved in calling this successful -- anytime, anywhere," said Russell-Falla, referring to the strategy of asking community members to flood their representative's office with calls in support of SCHIP.
With the vote a day away, it's not too late for you to take action too. Here are a few ways how:
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Posted by: vox persona on Oct 17, 2007 1:13 AM
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I care about human life. Unnecessary, counterproductive and illegitimate wars are detrimental to human life. Capital punishment nullifies human life. There are things worse than death, when such punishment is appropriate, as it all too often is.
I care about waste, fraud and abuse. For too many years this 'president' enjoyed virtually no scrutiny, oversight or checks and balances. A compliant and pliable Democratic House & Senate don't seem to much help, they act absolutely invertebrate. And the massive amounts of money being spent and wasted by this administration shows he doesn't care about the value of the dollar or national debt. What does he care? He'll just hand his mess to whoever comes next, while he and his cronies just walk back through that revolving door to lucrative positions in those industries who benefited the most from his corporate policies. It almost defies belief. Then of course there is that fiasco I call the Bush War, where we are spending over $3,300 per second every second of the year, off budget and borrowed from China. Is this guy even human? Now he vetoes help for children for 'lack of funds', and calls it a slippery slope towards socialism? His whole administration is geared toward the transfer of wealth from our treasury to his cronies pockets. No, I don't think he cares about children unless they are Ranger contributors to his campaign. Thank dog for the 22nd Ammendment!
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Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Oct 17, 2007 2:13 AM
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Posted by: LMNOP on Oct 17, 2007 3:22 AM
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And I don't like the word hate in this context. Do Tyson and Perdue hate chickens? No. They're indifferent to their plight. Chickens are viewed as economic units, in this case food.
The aristocrats see the poor as labor units no different from a machine except in the obvious and unavoidable ways. They are to be worked as hard as possible as profitably as possible (i.e., exploited), which of course means subsistence wages, no unions, no benefits, no rights - no more than you would give to a farm animal or a slave - gruel, a thatched roof and hay to sleep on, minimal veter - er, medical care.
The children of the poor matter even less. Let the sick ones die. Why not? (Chilling, no?) All that is important is to prevent pandemics that wipe out the healthy childstock and choke off the next generation of slav - er, Wal-Mart associates.
Normal people call this hate because their default position toward other human beings demands better treatment than what the Republicans have in mind for the peasan- er, citizenry. Normal people think that you have to hate children to not love them. Not so. It cannot be stressed enough that the poor, which will, if the corporate masters' plan is realized in full, comprise 98% or more of us, are considered like another species to the elites. If you doubt that, you will never understand them.
How do I know? It's obvious if you look for it. The evidence is everywhere. You've got to stop projecting your human values onto these people and see them for what they are: a predatory breed of human with the morals of insects.
What else is the threatened veto of SCHIP about? Why were soldiers sent to battle understaffed and underequipped? The 800 billion spent on the war has not gone to the soldiers (the poor). It's gone to cronies (the wealthy) in contracts, not for decent soldier pay, better incentives to recruit replacements, benefits, or armor.
Why? The same reason that farm animals don't get seat belted in when transported. They just don't rate to humans. And the poor just don't rate to the aristocracy. They give our values lip service, but how many examples of them advocating those values but disregarding them themselves are you aware of? Why do you think Walter Reed looks like a crack house? Why do you think that there was no money for rescuing Katrina victims?
These insects are trying to breed and exploit us like some ants farm aphids. They don't hate us. They just don't care.
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» exactly the point I would have made--the opposite of love is indifference because if you hate
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» I disagree on one point. The chimp *IS* a simp, not cunning.
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» Bush is cunning in the sense of being sly and deceptive. He's a cowboy version of Maggie Thatcher.
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» RE: This isn't about hating. It's about indifference. + Bravo + Well Stated
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» the Nazi exterminators
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» Actually, It's About Ideology
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» Right, in spite of what the Preamble says about "promoting the general welfare" AND
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» It's about organized crime and class warfare - against us.
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» PROJECTION
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» What's wrong with America?
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Posted by: richardbee on Oct 17, 2007 3:51 AM
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» Nothing would free up Americans like universal health care, and Bush & Co. know it
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» Neocons want neo-feudalism
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» You've only got one life...
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» And it's not because of me (a doc); it's the corporatocracy
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» Demographics and history can unify a people
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Posted by: Urstrly on Oct 17, 2007 3:55 AM
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» Burst his goddamn bubble!
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Posted by: custersbud on Oct 17, 2007 4:35 AM
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IMPEACHMENT NOW!!!!
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Oct 17, 2007 5:02 AM
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» What, the way cons are for war because it costs YOU nothing?
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» I seem to recall...
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Posted by: xbj on Oct 17, 2007 5:07 AM
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The man and his cronies are heartless bastard war crimnal monsters and proud of it, all the way to their accountants, stockbrokers, and banks. The world they live in, believe in, and are striving to make a reality for everyone, where everyone behaves exactly as they do or merely supports their reprehensible lives, is one where the law of the jungle prevails, and there is no accountability for anyone, anytime, ever.
They are wrong, but they will do a tremendous amount of permanent damage before they are stopped by bigger stronger monsters.
Or perhaps a REAL God who simply decides He's finally had enough of their endless brainless conscienceless sociopathic and psychopathic bullshit and lets them finally reap what they justly deserve.
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» Lucifer
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Posted by: 25ghostcommander on Oct 17, 2007 6:02 AM
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» Why are you a Catholic?
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» One of them is atoning.
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Posted by: vssmith on Oct 17, 2007 7:06 AM
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» RE: Good one, but they don't really love fetuses either
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» Its about controlling women ...
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» RE: Good one, but they don't really love fetuses either
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» RE: Fetus love
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Posted by: drsivana99 on Oct 17, 2007 7:09 AM
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» RE: Who gives a SCHIP?
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» RE: Who gives a SCHIP?
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Oct 17, 2007 8:02 AM
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Their big argument is healthcare for all Americans is 'socialized healthcare'. I've had the pleasure to talk with people that live in countries that have 'socialized medicine'. Here's what they have to say to me.
'If you are sick with something that iscontagious,will kill you or meets a medical need,you get treatment. Does'nt matter if it's chicken pox or cancer. If you want breasts like Barbie or a huge talliwacker,you wait. If you need an organ transplant,you get it. If it's a facelift or some other beauty treatment, you wait'
This is a far cry from the picture this gov't paints of gov't sponsored healthcare. Because of the way this gov't has allowed big business turn the country into a 3,000 mile wide garbage dump,the creatons on Capitol Hill OWE US!!!
It's time they paid for the progress that they made us pay such a heavy toll for.
Jeffrey7
The best choice for Prez. in '08
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» The language of tyrants...
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» RE: Just the poor ones!!!
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Posted by: scheherezade on Oct 17, 2007 8:06 AM
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A more germane question is, 'how committed are Democrat politicians to freeing citizens from Big Insurance's grip?'
SCHIP supporters knew Bush would veto this bill. They had nothing to lose by loading every bauble imaginable onto it.
Would they (and supporting Republicans) have been so interested in expanding SCHIP benefits as proposed, if there were a ghost of a chance of it passing?
And why insist on tapping nonrecurring, regressive tobacco taxes to fund the program, instead of more reliable (and permanent) sources?
Meanwhile, despite much righteous indignation over Bush's very predictable position, nobody in the SCHIP camp, or the media, have breathed a word about HR 676. That bill would start the ball rolling on universal health insurance coverage by expanding Medicaid, negating the need for SCHIP expenditures.
Now lawmakers must go back to the table and come up with a real plan for SCHIP. It will be interesting to see exactly how far Democrat concern for children, versus the insurance industry, extends, as that process gets underway.
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» RE: Do Dems care about kids? Our wonderful Democrats
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» RE: Do Dems care about kids? Our wonderful Democrats
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Posted by: Ellie1 on Oct 17, 2007 8:09 AM
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» RE: Yea, Bush hates kids.....
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Posted by: yvonnecarroll on Oct 17, 2007 8:52 AM
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» RE: reptiles don't love their babies
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» RE: reptiles don't love their babies
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Posted by: cinderfella on Oct 17, 2007 9:45 AM
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» RE: What med program?
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» RE: What med program?
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Posted by: bobtr900 on Oct 17, 2007 10:31 AM
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They hate any form of socialized health care. And this is what they call PRO-LIFE.
The right wingers and their enabling religions(Catholic, my religion; and evangelical fundies) call their attitude PRO-LIFE. Now we all know the pro-life agenda is a phony/false agenda. They only use the words pro-life to votes from right wing 'red' (red state) votes for money and political power.
I have neve, not even from the days of Ronald Reagan, believed in their pro-life, family values agenda.
The right wing religions have sold their souls to the evil empire, satan and his minions, The Repub party. And no one can stop them; and their religions just continue to support them. TOTAL HYPOCRISY... and I just can't get over the fact that my religion is not only a part of that hypocrisy but is at the very core of it and was responsible for starting it.
As the Rethug party goes so too will their religious enablers. They have such total power now but that may not last forever. Their downfall may come sooner then they think, maybe not in my short time left, but some time and maybe sooner than they think.
So much for the biggest bunch of religious phonies to have ever been given so much power over peoples lives.
Their so called pro-life agenda is nothing but a bunch of lying bullshit. They will use up every life they can for ever more money and political power.
And so will their right wing religions, who care only about dominion and domination. Are they sadistic, the Iraq/Afghanistan war for oil proves it. The Spanish Inquisition proves it. Their support of the Nazis during WWII proves it And the Holocaust proves it. And so does their newest Holocaust in the ME prove it the utter disregard for human life prove that their agenda is NOT in the least pro-life.
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Posted by: Miss Phoebe on Oct 17, 2007 11:12 AM
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» RE: Forget impeachment!
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» RE: Forget impeachment!
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Posted by: rocketman on Oct 17, 2007 11:22 AM
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" the bill re-labels "children" as anyone under 25, and "low income" as up to 400% above the poverty level, or $82,600 for a family of four."
It also seem s to be taking money from medicare - "The House bill will eliminate $50 billion in Medicare Advantage funding over the next five years and $157 billion through 2017. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the funding cutbacks will likely result in three million people losing their Advantage coverage".
I'm sure there are issues both pro and con that I have missed here but as most of these "cover all" programs have seemed to be lately, this one is a mess!
There is no excuse for children to not be covered - it's a no brainer. To include family's at that income level ($80,000) is taking away benefits from someone else that needs them.
Democrats need to stop with unrealistic programs and get something on the floor that makes sense. The republicans will never do it and nothing will go forward unless it's rational!
Another missing issues here is that you can have "insurance" and still wind up with thousands in bills that can break a family financially. THIS needs to be addressed as well. Insurance companies are pigs in this regard!
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» RE: Lets get real!
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» Who really doesn't like Children!
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Posted by: maketheworldyouwant on Oct 17, 2007 11:23 AM
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All of this time, effort & arguing should be directed at getting universal healthcare for ALL Americans. Then it won't matter if the Frost's and Wilkerson's are rich or poor. It won't matter what jobs they have or for what personal reasons they have decided not to take jobs that would have provided healthcare coverage for them & their families. IT WON'T MATTER! Be a starving artist or a trust fund baby on a commune or an investment banker...it will be your choice to make to fulfill your potential as a human being. None of us would have to live in fear of having no health coverage for ourselves or our children. That is freedom folks! This new S-CHIP crap is a subterfuge and you are buying it! The politicians (both democratic & republican) are buying time so they won't be forced by us to confront & implement universal health coverage during our lifetime.
We have been thrown a bone by our political masters. Don't let each other down by forgetting what real change can be!
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» FEAR
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Posted by: MobileSucks on Oct 17, 2007 12:39 PM
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Or, like 50 Cent put it:
"George Bush has a talent: He has less compassion than the average human. By all means, I don’t aspire to be like George Bush."
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» RE: No, Bush doesnt hate the children.
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» RE: No, Bush doesnt hate the children.
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Posted by: aka_bozo on Oct 17, 2007 12:59 PM
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Like your future president (of the upper-class) said “it takes a village to raise a child”. Well, “it takes a village to sacrifice other people’s kids too”.
So, it AIN’T JUST Bush. The Germans loved Hitler, the mean dumb-ass white American peasants love their own fascists dicks too. However, if you’d LISTEN to these dumb-ass peasants instead of preaching at them (and to yourselves), you might learn how to defeat them. Debate is for a small, small, SMALL percentage of the population. You don’t defeat the enemy by convincing them, as most human brains can’t change their beliefs.
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» Successful Propaganda Job
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Posted by: nancyeb01 on Oct 17, 2007 1:22 PM
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» RE: About the presidents concerns on SCHIP
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» It's standard for 'children' covered to be up to age 21
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Posted by: cherylholmes on Oct 17, 2007 1:50 PM
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Posted by: cherylholmes on Oct 17, 2007 2:17 PM
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Every day war spending bills includes Medicaid and Medicare cuts..DEEP ones! Necessities are no longer covered. We are oaying for this damn war and for all the greed you assholes inflict on the entire world. DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!
AND FUCKING STINKING UP AND DIRTING OUR PLANET!
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Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 17, 2007 3:06 PM
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As a physician I have been recently reading the work of John Jost from NYU. While John Jost would not totally agree with my argument, I urge you to look at his extremely stimulating publications.
My contention is that early rigid childhood "neuro-tapes" are laid down before the age of 5 or so and may be immutable? For that premise I will assuredly be called a bigot. So be it.
In religious fundamentalist homes these tapes are extremely rigid and actually preclude open-mindedness, tolerance for others views, and-most ironic of all, true compassion in my opinion.
My hope is that you read the work of David Boulton who may very well give us hope for the future of our species in crises.
David Boulton's proposal for worldwide healthy early childhood education may very well be our best last hope. I would add early healthy education and literacy MUST include a large component of arts education.
Dr. Rick Lippin
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com
Southampton, Pa
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» RE: Fundamentalists Are Not Biologically Capable of Compassion
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» RE: Fundamentalists Are Not Biologically Capable of Compassion-SOCIALISM IS JINGOISTIC!
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» RE: Fundamentalists Are Not Biologically Capable of Compassion-SOCIALISM IS JINGOISTIC!
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» RE: Fundamentalists Are Not Biologically Capable of Compassion-SOCIALISM IS JINGOISTIC!
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Posted by: Jeanne on Oct 17, 2007 7:25 PM
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Bush doesn't hate all children, only those who aren't rich.
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It can happen to any of us at anytime- I am blessed with great insurance and thus far healthy children- but if the day came that my circumstances changed I would like to know that a program would be there to help me and not force me into complete welfare to get that assistance.
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Has Alternet stooped to the formula of taking a cute (meaning white and blond, natch) little kid (usually a girl since they look more vulnerable) and using her face to boost support for an agenda?
What makes this example truly disgusting is giving the toddler a political statement that a 2 or 3 year old couldn't possibly understand, getting her to scribble on it with crayon, and then photographing her holding it up as though she were making the statement for herself.
We now pause while the whole studio audience pukes.
The right's been using heartwarming tear-jerkers as a substitute for substantive discussion for decades. Has Alternet really decided that SCHIP can't stand on its own, that Bush's veto wasn't bad enough, without resorting to this?
The editor (not to mention the child's parents) ought to be ashamed of themselves.
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Put his picture right next to definition number one in the dictionary for a**hole.
Along with the rest of his Repug bush-butt-sniffers.
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Posted by: snarlah on Oct 24, 2007 9:50 PM
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And what do I mean by he hates people? I mean our President suffers from Antisocial Personality Disorder, as do the leaders of a number of countries. It's what we used to call psycopathic personality and it means the person's brain does not process human feeling like most of us. It is the same profile as that of the serial killer. It's about time that the moderates and left-wing pundits realized what we're dealing with when we deal with George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, and most of the Bush administration. He may have other psychological conditions as well, but that's the one that causes most of our problems.
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The federal government should do a few things (protecting freedom/rights) well not be every answer to everyone's problems.
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Posted by: vox persona on Oct 17, 2007 1:13 AM
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I care about human life. Unnecessary, counterproductive and illegitimate wars are detrimental to human life. Capital punishment nullifies human life. There are things worse than death, when such punishment is appropriate, as it all too often is.
I care about waste, fraud and abuse. For too many years this 'president' enjoyed virtually no scrutiny, oversight or checks and balances. A compliant and pliable Democratic House & Senate don't seem to much help, they act absolutely invertebrate. And the massive amounts of money being spent and wasted by this administration shows he doesn't care about the value of the dollar or national debt. What does he care? He'll just hand his mess to whoever comes next, while he and his cronies just walk back through that revolving door to lucrative positions in those industries who benefited the most from his corporate policies. It almost defies belief. Then of course there is that fiasco I call the Bush War, where we are spending over $3,300 per second every second of the year, off budget and borrowed from China. Is this guy even human? Now he vetoes help for children for 'lack of funds', and calls it a slippery slope towards socialism? His whole administration is geared toward the transfer of wealth from our treasury to his cronies pockets. No, I don't think he cares about children unless they are Ranger contributors to his campaign. Thank dog for the 22nd Ammendment!
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Posted by: LMNOP on Oct 17, 2007 3:22 AM
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And I don't like the word hate in this context. Do Tyson and Perdue hate chickens? No. They're indifferent to their plight. Chickens are viewed as economic units, in this case food.
The aristocrats see the poor as labor units no different from a machine except in the obvious and unavoidable ways. They are to be worked as hard as possible as profitably as possible (i.e., exploited), which of course means subsistence wages, no unions, no benefits, no rights - no more than you would give to a farm animal or a slave - gruel, a thatched roof and hay to sleep on, minimal veter - er, medical care.
The children of the poor matter even less. Let the sick ones die. Why not? (Chilling, no?) All that is important is to prevent pandemics that wipe out the healthy childstock and choke off the next generation of slav - er, Wal-Mart associates.
Normal people call this hate because their default position toward other human beings demands better treatment than what the Republicans have in mind for the peasan- er, citizenry. Normal people think that you have to hate children to not love them. Not so. It cannot be stressed enough that the poor, which will, if the corporate masters' plan is realized in full, comprise 98% or more of us, are considered like another species to the elites. If you doubt that, you will never understand them.
How do I know? It's obvious if you look for it. The evidence is everywhere. You've got to stop projecting your human values onto these people and see them for what they are: a predatory breed of human with the morals of insects.
What else is the threatened veto of SCHIP about? Why were soldiers sent to battle understaffed and underequipped? The 800 billion spent on the war has not gone to the soldiers (the poor). It's gone to cronies (the wealthy) in contracts, not for decent soldier pay, better incentives to recruit replacements, benefits, or armor.
Why? The same reason that farm animals don't get seat belted in when transported. They just don't rate to humans. And the poor just don't rate to the aristocracy. They give our values lip service, but how many examples of them advocating those values but disregarding them themselves are you aware of? Why do you think Walter Reed looks like a crack house? Why do you think that there was no money for rescuing Katrina victims?
These insects are trying to breed and exploit us like some ants farm aphids. They don't hate us. They just don't care.
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IMPEACHMENT NOW!!!!
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Posted by: xbj on Oct 17, 2007 5:07 AM
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The man and his cronies are heartless bastard war crimnal monsters and proud of it, all the way to their accountants, stockbrokers, and banks. The world they live in, believe in, and are striving to make a reality for everyone, where everyone behaves exactly as they do or merely supports their reprehensible lives, is one where the law of the jungle prevails, and there is no accountability for anyone, anytime, ever.
They are wrong, but they will do a tremendous amount of permanent damage before they are stopped by bigger stronger monsters.
Or perhaps a REAL God who simply decides He's finally had enough of their endless brainless conscienceless sociopathic and psychopathic bullshit and lets them finally reap what they justly deserve.
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Oct 17, 2007 8:02 AM
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Their big argument is healthcare for all Americans is 'socialized healthcare'. I've had the pleasure to talk with people that live in countries that have 'socialized medicine'. Here's what they have to say to me.
'If you are sick with something that iscontagious,will kill you or meets a medical need,you get treatment. Does'nt matter if it's chicken pox or cancer. If you want breasts like Barbie or a huge talliwacker,you wait. If you need an organ transplant,you get it. If it's a facelift or some other beauty treatment, you wait'
This is a far cry from the picture this gov't paints of gov't sponsored healthcare. Because of the way this gov't has allowed big business turn the country into a 3,000 mile wide garbage dump,the creatons on Capitol Hill OWE US!!!
It's time they paid for the progress that they made us pay such a heavy toll for.
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A more germane question is, 'how committed are Democrat politicians to freeing citizens from Big Insurance's grip?'
SCHIP supporters knew Bush would veto this bill. They had nothing to lose by loading every bauble imaginable onto it.
Would they (and supporting Republicans) have been so interested in expanding SCHIP benefits as proposed, if there were a ghost of a chance of it passing?
And why insist on tapping nonrecurring, regressive tobacco taxes to fund the program, instead of more reliable (and permanent) sources?
Meanwhile, despite much righteous indignation over Bush's very predictable position, nobody in the SCHIP camp, or the media, have breathed a word about HR 676. That bill would start the ball rolling on universal health insurance coverage by expanding Medicaid, negating the need for SCHIP expenditures.
Now lawmakers must go back to the table and come up with a real plan for SCHIP. It will be interesting to see exactly how far Democrat concern for children, versus the insurance industry, extends, as that process gets underway.
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Posted by: bobtr900 on Oct 17, 2007 10:31 AM
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They hate any form of socialized health care. And this is what they call PRO-LIFE.
The right wingers and their enabling religions(Catholic, my religion; and evangelical fundies) call their attitude PRO-LIFE. Now we all know the pro-life agenda is a phony/false agenda. They only use the words pro-life to votes from right wing 'red' (red state) votes for money and political power.
I have neve, not even from the days of Ronald Reagan, believed in their pro-life, family values agenda.
The right wing religions have sold their souls to the evil empire, satan and his minions, The Repub party. And no one can stop them; and their religions just continue to support them. TOTAL HYPOCRISY... and I just can't get over the fact that my religion is not only a part of that hypocrisy but is at the very core of it and was responsible for starting it.
As the Rethug party goes so too will their religious enablers. They have such total power now but that may not last forever. Their downfall may come sooner then they think, maybe not in my short time left, but some time and maybe sooner than they think.
So much for the biggest bunch of religious phonies to have ever been given so much power over peoples lives.
Their so called pro-life agenda is nothing but a bunch of lying bullshit. They will use up every life they can for ever more money and political power.
And so will their right wing religions, who care only about dominion and domination. Are they sadistic, the Iraq/Afghanistan war for oil proves it. The Spanish Inquisition proves it. Their support of the Nazis during WWII proves it And the Holocaust proves it. And so does their newest Holocaust in the ME prove it the utter disregard for human life prove that their agenda is NOT in the least pro-life.
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Posted by: rocketman on Oct 17, 2007 11:22 AM
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" the bill re-labels "children" as anyone under 25, and "low income" as up to 400% above the poverty level, or $82,600 for a family of four."
It also seem s to be taking money from medicare - "The House bill will eliminate $50 billion in Medicare Advantage funding over the next five years and $157 billion through 2017. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the funding cutbacks will likely result in three million people losing their Advantage coverage".
I'm sure there are issues both pro and con that I have missed here but as most of these "cover all" programs have seemed to be lately, this one is a mess!
There is no excuse for children to not be covered - it's a no brainer. To include family's at that income level ($80,000) is taking away benefits from someone else that needs them.
Democrats need to stop with unrealistic programs and get something on the floor that makes sense. The republicans will never do it and nothing will go forward unless it's rational!
Another missing issues here is that you can have "insurance" and still wind up with thousands in bills that can break a family financially. THIS needs to be addressed as well. Insurance companies are pigs in this regard!
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Posted by: maketheworldyouwant on Oct 17, 2007 11:23 AM
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All of this time, effort & arguing should be directed at getting universal healthcare for ALL Americans. Then it won't matter if the Frost's and Wilkerson's are rich or poor. It won't matter what jobs they have or for what personal reasons they have decided not to take jobs that would have provided healthcare coverage for them & their families. IT WON'T MATTER! Be a starving artist or a trust fund baby on a commune or an investment banker...it will be your choice to make to fulfill your potential as a human being. None of us would have to live in fear of having no health coverage for ourselves or our children. That is freedom folks! This new S-CHIP crap is a subterfuge and you are buying it! The politicians (both democratic & republican) are buying time so they won't be forced by us to confront & implement universal health coverage during our lifetime.
We have been thrown a bone by our political masters. Don't let each other down by forgetting what real change can be!
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Posted by: MobileSucks on Oct 17, 2007 12:39 PM
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Or, like 50 Cent put it:
"George Bush has a talent: He has less compassion than the average human. By all means, I don’t aspire to be like George Bush."
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Posted by: aka_bozo on Oct 17, 2007 12:59 PM
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Like your future president (of the upper-class) said “it takes a village to raise a child”. Well, “it takes a village to sacrifice other people’s kids too”.
So, it AIN’T JUST Bush. The Germans loved Hitler, the mean dumb-ass white American peasants love their own fascists dicks too. However, if you’d LISTEN to these dumb-ass peasants instead of preaching at them (and to yourselves), you might learn how to defeat them. Debate is for a small, small, SMALL percentage of the population. You don’t defeat the enemy by convincing them, as most human brains can’t change their beliefs.
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Every day war spending bills includes Medicaid and Medicare cuts..DEEP ones! Necessities are no longer covered. We are oaying for this damn war and for all the greed you assholes inflict on the entire world. DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!
AND FUCKING STINKING UP AND DIRTING OUR PLANET!
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Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 17, 2007 3:06 PM
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As a physician I have been recently reading the work of John Jost from NYU. While John Jost would not totally agree with my argument, I urge you to look at his extremely stimulating publications.
My contention is that early rigid childhood "neuro-tapes" are laid down before the age of 5 or so and may be immutable? For that premise I will assuredly be called a bigot. So be it.
In religious fundamentalist homes these tapes are extremely rigid and actually preclude open-mindedness, tolerance for others views, and-most ironic of all, true compassion in my opinion.
My hope is that you read the work of David Boulton who may very well give us hope for the future of our species in crises.
David Boulton's proposal for worldwide healthy early childhood education may very well be our best last hope. I would add early healthy education and literacy MUST include a large component of arts education.
Dr. Rick Lippin
http://medicalcrises.blogspot.com
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Posted by: Jeanne on Oct 17, 2007 7:25 PM
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Bush doesn't hate all children, only those who aren't rich.
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Posted by: staceyad on Oct 17, 2007 7:30 PM
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It can happen to any of us at anytime- I am blessed with great insurance and thus far healthy children- but if the day came that my circumstances changed I would like to know that a program would be there to help me and not force me into complete welfare to get that assistance.
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Posted by: doesnotplaywell on Oct 17, 2007 8:14 PM
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Posted by: anambrose on Oct 17, 2007 9:51 PM
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Posted by: JesseBC on Oct 17, 2007 11:14 PM
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Has Alternet stooped to the formula of taking a cute (meaning white and blond, natch) little kid (usually a girl since they look more vulnerable) and using her face to boost support for an agenda?
What makes this example truly disgusting is giving the toddler a political statement that a 2 or 3 year old couldn't possibly understand, getting her to scribble on it with crayon, and then photographing her holding it up as though she were making the statement for herself.
We now pause while the whole studio audience pukes.
The right's been using heartwarming tear-jerkers as a substitute for substantive discussion for decades. Has Alternet really decided that SCHIP can't stand on its own, that Bush's veto wasn't bad enough, without resorting to this?
The editor (not to mention the child's parents) ought to be ashamed of themselves.
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Posted by: snideelf on Oct 18, 2007 4:04 PM
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Put his picture right next to definition number one in the dictionary for a**hole.
Along with the rest of his Repug bush-butt-sniffers.
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Posted by: snarlah on Oct 24, 2007 9:50 PM
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And what do I mean by he hates people? I mean our President suffers from Antisocial Personality Disorder, as do the leaders of a number of countries. It's what we used to call psycopathic personality and it means the person's brain does not process human feeling like most of us. It is the same profile as that of the serial killer. It's about time that the moderates and left-wing pundits realized what we're dealing with when we deal with George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, and most of the Bush administration. He may have other psychological conditions as well, but that's the one that causes most of our problems.
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Posted by: Joe on Oct 27, 2007 7:40 PM
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The federal government should do a few things (protecting freedom/rights) well not be every answer to everyone's problems.
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