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What If Being Fat Is Not Your Fault? America's Obesity Epidemic May Be Fueled by Chemicals in Everyday Products
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It's hard to escape the image of Americans as slothful and overweight. But what if being fat weren't totally our fault?
The narrative we pound into our heads everyday is that we live in a country where fast food rules, where morning coffee drinks can provide nearly one-quarter of your daily calories before you even get to breakfast, and where you can have pizza topped with Oreos.
And there's the issue that less than a quarter of us exercise regularly, and on average we spend 142 hours a month lounging on our couches, our eyes glued to a TV.
So it's no wonder that the Centers for Disease Control report that more than a staggering 60 percent of adults and 16 percent of children are obese. In the last three decades, obesity has doubled among adults and tripled among children. And experts say there are a range of issues that contribute to it -- the most obvious is of course diet and exercise.
But there is also sleep deprivation (we're sleeping less these days), drugs such as anti-depressants and anti-diabetics, as well as genes, metabolism, culture and socioeconomic status (and I would add advertising, although that hasn't made it to any CDC list).
And there is another factor that has only started gaining attention lately, but may be a hugely important factor, especially in helping to explain why some people who exercise and eat well still can't keep off the pounds. It has to do with chemicals in our environment, particularly in many of the products we come in contact with each day -- from our food to our floors.
There is a lot of emphasis on personal responsibility when it comes to weight, but the prevalence of something scientists are now calling "obesogens" may put a crinkle in that posturing.
Sharon Begley of Newsweek reported:
Evidence has been steadily accumulating that certain hormone-mimicking pollutants, ubiquitous in the food chain, have two previously unsuspected effects. They act on genes in the developing fetus and newborn to turn more precursor cells into fat cells, which stay with you for life. And they may alter metabolic rate, so that the body hoards calories rather than burning them, like a physiological Scrooge.
In addition to the plague of Big Macs, we now also have to figure exposure to chemical pollutants as a contributor to the obesity epidemic.
How Did We Get So Big?
Since studying obesity in adults is tricky due to the high number of factors, the most compelling research on the subject has come from a study from the Harvard School of Public Health in 2006 that looked at medical records of more that 120,000 kids over a 22-year period.
What the researchers found was that "the prevalence of overweight children less than 6 years old jumped 59 percent, from 6.3 to 10 percent." And even more shocking, "The results show surprising increases in the number of overweight children up to 6 months old. From 1980 to 2001, the increase in overweight infants ballooned 74 percent."
This is bad news for these kids later in life because "accelerated weight gain in the first few months after birth is associated with obesity later in life," said Matthew Gillman, an associate professor at Harvard Medical School and one of the study's authors.
So what's the connection between chubby babies, the obesity epidemic and chemical pollutants? Actually, significantly more research. (Warning: A lot of mice were harmed to write this story.)
In 2002, an unknown Scottish academic published a paper about the link between obesity and synthetic chemicals, the Newsweek article explains. This eventually triggered some interest from others in the field.
Already in Japan, scientists were finding that bisphenol A (a chemical compound used to make plastic drinking bottles and baby bottles, among other things) pushed certain cells to become fat cells in experiments performed in the lab and also acelerated the growth of existing fat cells. If their results held true outside the lab in people, it would mean that BPA, and potentially other synthetic chemicals, were in fact contributing to obesity.
So researchers kept plugging away.
The next break came from a study done in the U.S on mice that were given low doses of estrogen-micking chemicals, and they were found to gain weight even when given the same amount of food and exercise as other mice.
Then in 2006, Bruce Bloomberg at the University of California, Irvine exposed pregnant mice to a chemical called tributyltin, which is found in marine paints and plastics and often ends up in people through drinking water. Begley writes that he found that, "The offspring were born with more fat already stored, more fat cells, and became 5 to 20 percent fatter by adulthood."
The tributyltin activated a receptor called PPAR gamma, which acts like a switch for cells' fate: in one position it allows cells to remain fibroblasts, in another it guides them to become fat cells. (It is because the diabetes drugs Actos and Avandia activate PPAR gamma that one of their major side effects is obesity.) The effect was so strong and so reliable that Blumberg thought compounds that reprogram cells' fate like this deserved a name of their own: obesogens.
As later tests would show, tributyltin is not the only obesogen that acts on the PPAR pathway, leading to more fat cells. So do some phthalates (used to make vinyl plastics, such as those used in shower curtains and, until the 1990s, plastic food wrap), bisphenol A and perfluoroalkyl compounds (used in stain repellents and nonstick-cooking surfaces).
And more studies confirm the affect on actual people. Begley again:
In 2005, scientists in Spain reported that the more pesticides children were exposed to as fetuses, the greater their risk of being overweight as toddlers. And last January, scientists in Belgium found that children exposed to higher levels of PCBs and DDE (the breakdown product of the pesticide DDT) before birth were fatter than those exposed to lower levels.
Neither study proves causation, but they "support the findings in experimental animals," says [Retha Newbold of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences in North Carolina]. They "show a link between exposure to environmental chemicals ... and the development of obesity."
Since then, the research from other areas has been trickling in as well, such as a recent study in Michigan that found prenatal exposure to DDT may be contributing to obesity in women.
It's Not You, It's Everything Around You
Certainly this research doesn't mean that all cases of obesity are the result of chemicals and that factors like diet and exercise aren't important. They still are. But especially for younger kids who are growing up in an increasingly more toxic environment, these chemicals may be all around them (and their moms during pregnancy).
Let's take a look at some of these chemicals.
The "plasticizer" phthalates for instance, are so ubiqutous that an estimated 1 billion pounds are produced each year worldwide. The Environmental Working Group reports that phthalates are found in "toys, food packaging, hoses, raincoats, shower curtains, vinyl flooring, wall coverings, lubricants, adhesives, detergents, nail polish, hair spray and shampoo."
PCBs were used as coolants and lubricants in electric equipment and have also been added to plastics, inks, adhesives, paints, and flame retardants. PCBs are not only into the products we buy but is in the air and water, and many people are exposed to them through eating certain kinds of fish -- especially the ones highest on the food chain.
Bisphenol A (or BPA) is often found in hard plastics, including baby bottles, food-storage containers, water coolers, dental fillings, the lining inside canned goods, sports equipment, CDs, sunglasses ... the list goes on.
All of these are among the much-maligned class of chemicals known as "endocrine disruptors," which responsible for other such feats in nature as sex-changing fish. In humans, we are learning that they are a frightening menace. Joan Melcher of Miller-McCune reports:
In June, the Endocrine Society, a nearly century-old international association of endocrinologists, issued a statement in which its position was clear. In a 50-page paper, the first scientific statement issued by the society, authors wrote: "We present evidence that endocrine disruptors have effects on male and female reproduction, breast development and cancer, prostate cancer, neuroendocrinology, thyroid, metabolism and obesity and cardiovascular endocrinology. Results from animal models, human clinical observations and epidemiology studies converge to implicate EDCs as a significant concern to public health.
Not only are these chemicals everywhere, but are contributing to much more than obesity, as well.
A Public Health Issue
It turns out that being overweight is costly. The CDC reports that in 2000, obesity related health care costs came to $117 billion. And there has been a surge in spending as we are getting more obese and health care costs are skyrocketing.
Begley reports that health care costs are higher for those who are overweight or obese compared to other adults -- about $1,470 more annually.
"If those outsize costs inspire greater efforts to prevent and treat obesity, fine. But if they lead to demonizing the obese -- caricaturing them as indolent pigs raising insurance premiums for the rest of us -- that's a problem, and not only for ethical reasons: It threatens to obscure that one potent cause of weight gain may be largely beyond an individual's control."
And these chemicals that are contributing to obesity are the nexus of environmental and health concerns. The more dangerous chemicals are allowed to proliferate in our air, water, food and the products around our homes, the greater the threat to our own health, and the more of a burden it places on a health care system teetering at the edge of catastrophe.
So what do we do?
"Part of the hesitation to discuss the issue publicly has been rooted in the omnipresence of these chemicals and the dumbfounded response that society would have if pressed to eliminate literally all, or even a majority of, the streams through which they are delivered to us," wrote Rachel Cernansky for Planet Green. "It's a problem that is truly not easy to solve. But the effects of chemicals on human health are becoming clearer by the day, and we just might be close to a tipping point. Obesogens will, for the first time, be a major focus at a government-sponsored meeting this fall."
As scientists and regulators learn more about the links between obesity and endocrine disruptors, you can play it safe by finding ways to detox your home from some of these chemicals and help ban others, such as BPA.
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Posted by: paulaH on Oct 3, 2009 10:11 AM
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Of course, in our economy, very few women can be stay at home Moms and cook nightly. I can't blame women who don't cook balanced meals every night. When men get home, their day is done. When a woman gets home, her second job has just started.
A lot of women I know want to work; more that I know would prefer to stay home but can't. Why don't YOU go home and cook a balanced meal every night.
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Posted by: BlueTigress on Oct 4, 2009 10:49 AM
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It didn't come out very well so now he thinks that every woman on the planet owes him a blowjob and a hot meal in that order.
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» I remain somewhat skeptical, too, because in my neighborhood in Boston, most people are thin
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Oct 3, 2009 3:02 AM
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It makes you long for simpler times when we had more wholesome and natural excuses like having big bones and retaining water.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 3, 2009 5:26 AM
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But the likelyhood/level of synthetic chemicals to contributing to obesity is very likely miniscule.
We really need to keep our eyes on the most likely risks.(diet,excercise,SES) and allocate our limited resources toward those risks
I might had that the issue of "self blame" or "sin" has no place in contemporary medicine.
Dr.Rick Lippin
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Posted by: andrushka on Oct 3, 2009 5:55 AM
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pizzas the size of a cycle wheel. potato-couch eating, etc......
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Posted by: brianct on Oct 3, 2009 5:58 AM
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This tells us that something has changed in modern cultures where obesity is common..Something new was added last century..If you go to philippines, you will see little in the way of obesity. Ditto with japan...etc.Reason? their diets are still fairly traditional.
NOW our foods have been fiddled with for varius scientific and commercial reasons: greed by food companies eager to have us digest their product (eg soy flour in bread, where it neednt be at all); GM canola in many canned and bottled goods,,,and of course, trans-fatty acids predominate, created by those who had us afraid of saturated fats...
Ths clue to the obesity epidemic lies here.. in hydrogenation of unsaturated fats...this is something new in human diets...
'Passwater: Dr. Enig, a lot of people are interested in "trans" fats now. You have been researching them since 1977. How are trans fats harmful to us?
Enig: More than a decade of research at the University of Maryland, as well as research that was being done at other institutions, showed that consumption of trans fatty acids from partially hydrogenated (a process that adds hydrogen to solidify or harden) vegetable fats and oils had many adverse effects in health areas such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, immunity, reproduction and lactation, and obesity. It is rather easy today to come up with a long list of these adverse effects from the published research done by many scientists around the world, as well as the researchers at the University of Maryland.'
transfatty acids cause abdominal fat
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Posted by: bthespoon on Oct 3, 2009 6:07 AM
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Then there are all sorts of hormones from grelin and leptin (that determine a body's ability or inability to feel hungry or satiated) to adrenal stress hormones that can make a huge difference too. A cascade of bad-for-you health effects (weight gain) awaits anyone who develops trouble sleeping for any reason. Many women who were never overwieght previously become overweight after menopause without changing their diet.
Of course diet and exercise are important, but still Oprah Winfrey has to work ten times harder to never be able to look as good as Halle Berry does naturally.
After we gain more information and public awareness, I believe someday we as a nation will be ashamed at how we discriminate against overweight people.
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Posted by: len2 on Oct 3, 2009 6:20 AM
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BigBusiness for health providers who pocket $200B/year on overweight and related diseases.
As always, follow the money.
One can always counter the never-ending, always expanding toxic fog of medicalizing BS (like this article) about fat (aka "It ain't my fault I'm fat."), the simple truth is that Americans overeat, and eat lots of dead crap.
If you want to lose weight, maintain leanness, eat less. This is the key, NOT exercise.
If you want to be fit, exercise.
Trying to exercise away your overeating is risible stupidity.
If man made it, don't put in your mouth.
If man didn't eat it 10,000 years ago, don't eat it now.
If it doesn't rot, don't eat it.
("It's dead, Jim")
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Posted by: cortez on Oct 3, 2009 6:30 AM
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It is amazing how otherwise intelligent people insist on fertilizing their lawns and having pesticides sprayed only to play with their kids and pets on the lawns hours later. Do they think their health problems (many)are unrelated and that the chemicals are not tracked back into the house? In most neighborhoods not dumping chemicals on your lawn makes you a renegade (guilty as charged). There is a mindset at work here that is not only environmentally unfriendly it is also unhealthy.
Added to the chemicals in the house there are those we put in our bodies. High fructose corn syrup is everywhere as is Splenda and all those other artificial sweeteners, which are chemicals that change your sense of taste, among other things, so you get used to intense sweet flavors, which makes you crave more (super-sized drinks and 1500 calorie burgers did not exist in the 1950s), which leads to eating more...
Then add into the mix the trans fats in fast food and the fact that in this country people tend to eat and run, or even eat and drive or eat and email/text. Enjoying food with family and friends at a leisurely pace could also be part of the answer as stress affects the body as do social factors (eating alone in the car while running errands is not the same as having a long lunch with colleagues or family).
A lack of sleep, lack of vacation time, and most certainly a lack of economic security (jobs, health insurance)also play their parts in the obesity puzzle.
The article was interesting but only the tip of the obesity iceberg, methinks.
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Posted by: hagwind on Oct 3, 2009 7:15 AM
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When the subject of fat comes up, even AlterNet journalists lose whatever critical faculties they've got. This article, like so many others, never distinguishes between "fat," "overweight," and "obese." Like obscenity, I guess, we're supposed to know it when we see it. And it's irresponsible for a supposedly progressive website to intone stuff like "CDC reports that in 2000, obesity related health care costs came to $117 billion" without at least alluding to the other factors involved, like poverty and depression.
And while we're at it, could you give the word "epidemic" a rest? That way I'd at least have the illusion that you're not parroting the same script as the mainstream media.
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Posted by: clvngodess on Oct 3, 2009 7:46 AM
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Turns out, I have a disease that is now affecting more and more people, specifically women. Hashimoto's Disease. It's an autoimmune affliction that essentially inflames and destroys the thyroid. So I'm now a middle aged menopausal woman who is an uncomfortable 30 pounds over weight. The meds don't help to burn off the gain.
Sadly, flouride is a contributor. Soy is a contributor. Gluten is a contributor. Drinking tea, or any alcohol contributes. MSG contributes. Canola oil contributes. Corn contributes. And according to my physician the combination of various hormones in dairy and other products along with chemicals such as endocrine disruptors are all contributors to why my thyroid is now not functioning.
Add to that, that this condition may show up with "normal" readings in blood work, but have other symptoms; hair loss, increased sleeping/fatigue, brittle skin and nails, anemia, depression and other symtoms....
I'm not fat because I'm lazy and super size while watching football, things I do not do. I'm fat because my body cannot handle what was hidden in my food which then contributed to the destruction response to my thyroid. And I probably had this disease my whole life and no one bothered to check.
There are a lot of hidden poisons in our foods disguised as spices, natural flavors, hydrogenated fats, high fructose corn sweeteners, modified food starch or soy proteins, all of which have an accumulative effect on the body. What you end up with all depends on how your body manages to utilize the crap we eat.
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Posted by: 2dogarage on Oct 3, 2009 7:48 AM
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A good way to avoid pthalates is to filter your own tap water, download into glass bottles (I use Synergy Kombucha bottles)and store in the refrigerator for travel.
I also choose to live in the mountains where the air is clean(er) and there is no toxic industry nearby.
Some people bemoan what big business is doing to our air, water and food and yet choose to have children in areas that are obviously highly polluted.
Perhaps if each individual were to weigh the pros and cons of their own actions and instead of blaming the agents of entropy that lurk without insist on a world that fosters health and not death things would change.
In the meantime it's fairly simple for a conscious person to avoid the near occasion of obesity and ill-health by industrial predation.
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Posted by: Gravitas on Oct 3, 2009 7:59 AM
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One thing that sticks in my beautiful, HEALTHY ample derriere though is that they keep using stats from the CDC as to how fat we are. The CDC is in the back pocket of special interests. Weight standards were lowered against good science to sell more pills. The CDC is to Pharma what the Federal Reserve is to bankers.
Thanks to Alternet for their courage in printing this. As for all those who remain skeptical, maybe it is time for you to look inside and ask yourself why. Maybe fat hatred serves a psychological function for you. Maybe you are projecting your own resistance to grow emotionally on fat people. You can only see us as refusing to change our bodies because at some level you refuse to open your minds.
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Posted by: mrxls on Oct 3, 2009 8:03 AM
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When I see an obese person I think impulsiveness, sloth, ignorance and suffering. I also think they're probably having a lot of fun eating and are happy to avoid the pain of physical activity. I don't need some reason to absolve friends and family members who are obese of responsibility for their condition in order to love and cherish them. Obesity is not someone's essence but it is a reflection on how they are choosing to go through life.
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History of Hemp Hearts
"... I was certainly not the first to discover that the “heart” of the hemp seed could be used to change diets and reverse serious health conditions. The Latin name for the hemp plant, cannabis sativa, means most perfect food, but for at least seven thousand years before the plant was given its Latin name, human history was frequently linked to the use of hemp seeds for health and energy.
"The most comprehensive and amazing scientific study ever performed on the effect of the “heart” of the hemp seed on human health was undertaken by Dr. Jan Kabelik, director of The Institute of Hygiene and Epidemiology at Palacky University, Dr. F. Santavy, director of the Institute of Medical Chemistry at Palacky University and Dr. Josef Sirek, Chairman of the Tuberculosis Hospital at Jince, Czechoslovakia.
"For over thirty years, when modern drugs were not available, these doctors and their many colleagues used the dissolved “hearts” of hemp seeds ... to cure tuberculosis in all of the individuals treated--mostly children. Their records of their procedures and results are meticulous ... The doctors credited their success to the unique protein composition of hemp seeds. "
Open Secrets: Lobbying Spending Database
The top lobbyists of all time include the American Medical Association, the American Hospitals Association and Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturing. In short, sickness is Big Business. In other words, the System is not interested in fixing the Problem.
The unemployment rate is close to 10%? Once 10% of amerikans are eliminated either by going to prison or into a hospital, then the economic crisis will be "officially" over. You don't think so? Ask yourself (or better yet, your government representative) why something as innocuous and beneficial as industrial hemp is STILL illegal in the Land of the "Free".
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Nope, sorry, you misinterpreted the CDC's report or your math is wrong.
NCHS and CDC Data Brief:
"More than one-third of U.S. adults were obese in 2005–2006. This includes 33.3% of men and 35.3% of women."
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Posted by: happybear on Oct 3, 2009 10:23 AM
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Boy! This world is just out to get me.....
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 3, 2009 12:28 PM
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But the truth is that her body is always muscularly active - even when she is asleep...
Her fingers and toes are always moving
She is alive
Whereas I who eat much less than she does, get fat if she doesn't drag me out with her cycling and walking and dancing and stuff.
My body is not naturally active all the time. Like if I just sit there my fingers and toes are not twitching continuously - unless I am listening to some really good music.
Tony
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basic info above to understand the rest:
The job of mitochondria is to supply energy in the form of ATP (adenosine triphosphate). This is the universal currency of energy. It can be used for all sorts of biochemical jobs from muscle contraction to hormone production. When mitochondria fail, this results in poor supply of ATP, so cells go slow because they do not have the energy supply to function at a normal speed. This means that all bodily functions go slow.The job of mitochondria is to supply energy in the form of ATP (adenosine triphosphate). This is the universal currency of energy. It can be used for all sorts of biochemical jobs from muscle contraction to hormone production. When mitochondria fail, this results in poor supply of ATP, so cells go slow because they do not have the energy supply to function at a normal speed. This means that all bodily functions go slow.
MSG flow chart on this link very interesting:
http://www.msgtruth.org/
MSG in baby formula yep look it up as the link will not work.
A search on drugs that cause mitochodrial dysfunction may save you a lot of pain as that link will not work either. Especially dangerous are antidepressants but the list is long.
All these things that can damage the mitochondria can make you fat and if fat is alll you get you are one of the lucky ones.
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Go to the Fluoride Action Network and see all the problems that fluoride causes, and it will not prevent tooth decay when you drink it. It's only approved for topical use. That's why the hygienist tells you NOT to swallow, and your toothpaste tube tells you to go to the poison control center if you swallow it.
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Sorry, the FACTS are that Americans eat like pigs in both quality and quantity; PERIOD. If the toxic chemicals in our environment are a contributing factor then all the more reason to apply self-discipline in not only what we eat but in what we define as acceptable in our "disposable plastic world".
Stop trying to place the blame 100% on external influences and take personal responsibility for not only your own actions but for the detrimental actions that WE ALLOW corporate America to shove down our throats.
Quit making EXCUSES and start taking ACTION.
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Mentioning pacifiers made me wonder when the phenomenon started. (You don't see them in Dorothea's Lange's photos of the Depression.)
I wonder whether there is any chance that pacifiers predispose one to compulsive eating.
Whether or not, frequency, and duration of pacifier use really belongs in oral histories
of children. Some pediatricians may have made such notes.
Sugar free gum, courtesy of Donald Rumsfeld's pushing that through the FDA, could also predispose some to eat compulsively.
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Exercise the arm, elbow, hands and mouth less and I guarantee you will lose weight.
Plus, to pig out they way a huge number of Americans do and then think you will lose weight with exercise is whistling Dixie. Is not going to happen.
Cut the calories a lot. Lose weight.
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This American generation has gotten fat explosively fast. 20 years ago there was no such thing as 30% obesity throughout the southern states. Boy are we dead!
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 3, 2009 6:29 PM
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Five Blokes of all ages with The Godfather watching everything
And their really pretty Girls
Now I Don't Mind Giving Your Pretty Daughter a Pound
But Don't Steal My Pint of Beer Again
Or I am Likely To Get Annoyed
They think I Don't Know Their History...
But about 8 years ago, they stole my fucking car...
And had a bonfire with it
OK my car was fucked and only worth about £400
But it still went - even if it was a bit jumpy
And I was pretty skint at the time
And I couldn't fucking believe it
I was about to go and pick up my daughter from her evening class...
I had the keys in my hand
But where is the car?
The car had gone
So you have stolen my car - and you steal my beer - and I do not want to shag your daughter...what's the deal?
People Are Hurting - Even Here and Now - In Our Country ENGLAND
And Are Stealing So They Can Eat
Tony
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But about 8 years ago, they stole my fucking car...
And had a bonfire with it
OK my car was fucked and only worth about £400
But it still went - even if it was a bit jumpy
And I was pretty skint at the time
And I couldn't fucking believe it
I was about to go and pick up my daughter from her evening class...
I had the keys in my hand
But where is the car?
The car had gone
So you have stolen my car - and you steal my beer - and I do not want to shag your daughter...what's the deal?
People Are Hurting - Even Here and Now - In Our Country ENGLAND
And Are Stealing So They Can Eat
The IRISH Have Wanked Out
If You Think Us ENGLISH Were Cunts
And We Were
You Do Not Realise What It Will Be Like To Have A NAZI Cunt Up Your ARSE
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Europeans have less exposure to these environmental chemicals because they require corporations to prove that their chemicals are safe, not the situation in the US where someone else has to prove that the chemicals are harmful. Despite that, the Brits are now fast approaching the US in their girth size, and other countries that have adopted US life styles are close behind.
The other way of blowing this thesis out of the water is to look at the distribution of obesity in the US and lo and behold, you find that it follows diets heavy in fat and life styles low in exercise, not chemicals in the environment.
This is NOT to say that these chemicals are harmless, just that you can't blame them for the obesity epidemic. They need to be removed and a European legal philosophy that the manufacturer first has to prove no harm before foisting their product on the public should be instituted. But the nice thing about this article is that it takes the onus off the person responsible for their body condition and puts the onus on someone else. Now obese people don't have to try to get healthy. Is the author actually trying to institute a population control mechanism by killing off people as fast as possible? Sort of like the Cheney/Bush program of killing off people of reproductive age in wars of choice.
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Over 100 mg methanol impurity per liter wine becomes formaldehyde and then formic acid in humans -- co-factors for "morning after" hangovers -- folic acid protects most people.
There is the same level of methanol from the 11% methanol part of the aspartame molecule in 2 L [ 6 cans ] aspartame beverages.
Obesity is commonly involved.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/579335
Dermatitis. 2008; 19(3): E10-E11.
© 2008 American Contact Dermatitis Society
Formaldehyde, Aspartame, and Migraines: A Possible Connection
Sharon E. Jacob; Sarah Stechschulte
Published: 09/17/2008
Abstract
Aspartame is a widely used artificial sweetener that has been linked to pediatric and adolescent migraines.
Upon ingestion, aspartame is broken, converted, and oxidized into
formaldehyde in various tissues.
We present the first case series of aspartame-associated migraines related to clinically relevant positive reactions to formaldehyde
on patch testing.
formaldehyde, aspartame, and migraines, the first case series, Sharon E Jacob-Soo, Sarah A Stechschulte, UCSD, Dermatitis 2008 May:
Rich Murray 2008.07.18
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_archive.htm
Friday, July 18, 2008
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1553
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 3, 2009 8:03 PM
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And there are some pubs that also serve up musicians...
And so all our friends communicate with each other and we go to the pubs who serve up
Great Musicians
Usually within walking distance or a bus ride away
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 3, 2009 8:26 PM
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But They Don't Get It.....
No I do not have to get up at 6:30 am and work through till 11pm
And get home by midnight and have a bit of sleep and get up at 6:30 am and do it again
EVERY DAY
cOS THE WORK IS SO INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT
I am now Retired
And don't have to do that every day
But I would if the end result was that Tony Blair was in The International Court of Human Rights on The Charge Of War Crimes Against Humanity...
How come I have so much energy and passion - whilst maybe you are just a lawyer and couldn't give a fuck about innocence or guilt - so long as you get paid??
Tony
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But there are MANY other factors beyond simply diet and exercise.
Thyroid function, hormonal balance, neurotransmitter balance, gastrointestinal function, liver function, blood sugar management, and even basic mitochondrial function on a cellular level all play a critical role in fat loss.
This article gets it partly right, but there is much more to the fat loss picture.
Be well,
Dr. Bryan Walsh
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Posted by: Bibsisis on Oct 3, 2009 8:43 PM
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It's the study of the day. Fat people, obese people, and I'm not talking about people of a certain age who have a few pounds--even drs. allow that--simply need to stop eating SO MUCH.
How many of us have ever been in restaurants seeing fat and obese people stuffing themselves with bread and butter and potatoes and desserts without thinking, ooh, why do they do this?
On a related topic, smoking, I tell you facts which have a correlation regarding health care and smoking. You might not know smokers pay $26,000,000,000 dollars in taxes, yes, billion, for their health care in excess taxes which not only pays for their health care, but for a myriad of health and non-related services for non-smokers, who DO NOT pay these "sin taxes," many of whom are obese.
So if we're going after the smokers in excessive taxes which covers any disease they get, unrelated to smoking, and which pays for diseases of non-smokers, let's levy taxes on food, e.g., bacon, potato chips and other non-nutritional snacks, soft drinks of all kinds, sugar-filled cookies and cereal, high fat milk and cheese, potatoes, corn, carrots, fast food of most kinds, etc.
Levying higher taxes will not stop smokers from smoking; higher taxes on unhealthy foodstuffs will not keep fat or obese people from eating them; in our democracy, we have choices. Some of us pay for them; some benefit because the rest of us do.
Regardless of all studies I've read for fifty years, people get fat because they eat too much, period. I don't buy this article's premise that it's in the air or the chemicals or anything else. Anyone who truly wants to lose weight can. It's a choice.
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Posted by: the director on Oct 4, 2009 8:04 AM
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Preservatives prevent biological cellular metabolism, that’s why they are called preservatives.
In 1202 those who added fillers or preservatives to their bread or beer were hanged.
Should we start hanging chemists?
What chemists fail to remember is we are all downstream.
Back to fat, if you don’t exercise and eat too much especially foods with preservatives YOU are going to get fat and its your fault. You bought it and you ate it.
We are what we eat.
Since before the formation of the FDA our government has been allowing more and more chemicals to be added to our food, water and air. Our bodies are incapable of metabolizing synthetic compounds. Aspirin? or White Willow Bark? Both will address a headache but aspirin can kill you when the Bark of the Willow will not.
We want to blame someone for our fat,? Sorry the buck stops where you belly covers your belt buckle. Our health is our responsibility.
We can be heard by our State and National governments by remembering WE SPEND THE MONEY.
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Posted by: Prinzowhales on Oct 4, 2009 8:20 AM
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I read that 75% of high school graduates in Oklahoma couldn't name the first president of the United States. I doubt very seriously if they know how to eat healthy or cook, either. America is raising up a new generation of chronicly ill, fat, ignorant people....the real 'Pepsi Generation.'
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Posted by: LeaderofMen on Oct 4, 2009 8:27 AM
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Obesogens? Totally false. Totally made up. Trace chemicals? Sure. But all you have to do is look at other countries to see that they use the same type of products we do and they're not obese like us.
Marketing is big business, just like pharmas are HUGE business here. Clever marketing that pushes garbage food onto the public, and the fact that Americans are **willfully ignorant** (about most things), are the two main reasons why we have an obese population.
That's all you need to know.
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Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Oct 4, 2009 11:06 AM
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In the United States statistics show that the poor are more frequently obese. I would reccommend that you read a British book. It is "The Spirit Level" by Wilkinson and Prichett. Amazon UK has it. Amazon US will have it in December. When you finish with it you will decide that the above article is only 'messing' with one corner of the problem. It's not wrong. It is just not right enough.
It is a difficult problem. It is multifaceted. I am personally assured that there are facets that we have yet to even guess at.
Having said that I can take you to people that were stocky in build, but after heavy steroid usage ended up obese. My first wife got sick at 53 and died at 58. She never weighed over 115. It was genetic. My new gal is badly overweight. She eats like a bird. She has had heavy duty steroid treatment to bounce her out of pneumonia. This has happened as often as three times a year. I don't think she will ever be well.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Oct 4, 2009 11:09 AM
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My viewpoint comes from the fact that I'm a thin person who is always unsuccessfully trying to gain weight.
This is strange. Since eating is a pleasure, and fatteinng foods are the yummiest, gaining weight should be as easy as losing weight is hard. Just let yourself go and have seconds of everything...
But of course, it just ain't so. This convinces me that we shouldn't give big people a hard time, even if they couldn't squish us like bugs. Their bodies are set on being big, just as mine is set on being small. It's probably God having a good laugh on us.
I'm certainly not a model of self-control or spiritual mastery because I have stayed svelte for my whole life, though you're welcome to think so.
On the contrary, if anyone is a glutton, it's us skinny guys, who are always making our big friends faint with the things we scarf down.
So--even though my problem is the opposite of the national one--my experience suggests weight is fundamentally a body-type thing, though the American lifestyle will kill anyone. I recommend yoga and its sister science, ayurveda, for humans of all sizes.
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The Brits have done this. They placed a fresh cadaver in a body bag. They left it to "mature" at room temperature. They then did as complete an anayalsis as they were able. The body would contain almost every know disease. Interestingly they almost always found bubonic plague. The cadaver in life had not died from the ailments they found. His/her immune system had held them in check. The implication is that we would all be dead if our immune system wasn't keeping truly awful things in constant check.
The take away from this is that you may well be "catching" your illness from yourself. All it may well take to cause illness is for your immune system to be overwhelmed. Here enters stress.
It is for sure that a new strain of virus is being correctly analylized. There is no immunity. But other illnesses can and do come from stress. You self infect.
How much of obesity is stress related? The stress of poverty and "hard" living is going to loom bigger than we had expected. The statistics support this. Obesity follows wealth. The wealthy are more seldom obese.
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Oct 4, 2009 12:33 PM
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Now, the chemicals in foods such as MSG, high frustose corn syrup, aspartame, etc ... have been known to cause obesity thanks to those chemicals making the foods addictive so that people would eat uncontrollably and get unhealthy. Sure, that's great for those manufacturers who want those volume sales coming and what better ways to get them than by seducing more people for more of the same.
Another cause is lack of being social and sometimes getting depressed and feeling rejected. I remember when I was younger I used to eat compulsively when I got depressed. For a while it would feel like eating like crazy would get me out of that depressed feeling but it kept coming back. I had so much to regret from that but am glad that I overcame the eating from depression madness over the years.
I have heard about hemp based plastics and can see where hemp would replace crude oil based plastics but I don't see where that alone will help reduce obesity.
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Posted by: Noah_Scape on Oct 4, 2009 7:47 PM
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EVERY obese person I know drinks sugary soda pop and eats processed carbs and sugary foods, and they do not get any exersize that raises their heart rates or makes them breathe hard. They pig out and are slothlike.
CALORIES IN Vs. CALORIES OUT = FAT OR NOT FAT
My life represents a small sample of the population, but still, I have to believe what I see.
If there is BLAME, it should go to food advertising on TV> those delicious looking images certainly must trigger the hunger system in our bodies.
Also, there is a TV ad running now from a diet centre that actually gives 'the excuse', saying "Remember, its not YOU, its you metabolism". I say BAH!!
Detractors:
Yes, there is room for metabolism, but that only means those people have to be more carefull, and work out harder.
Depression is another key factor - can I blame someone who is too depressed to look after themselves? [no, but the fat is still from calories!]
The chemicals mentioned probably are a factor, and obesity is one more reason they should be banned.
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Posted by: franklyspanking on Oct 4, 2009 8:46 PM
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Have fun with your faerie tales, if it makes you happy.
There are some chemicals that can mimic female hormones on men...promote their plumping up in the places females pack it on...when members of either sex engage in too much Mikkie Dees instead of necessary or voluntary (jog/work out) labor.
You figure it out. Consult your belt size.
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Posted by: mrtwilight23 on Oct 4, 2009 10:49 PM
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The very foundation of the pyramid recommends something like 6-8 servings of bread a day.
Bread makes me gain weight.
It also makes me hungry.
I could go the Olive Garden and eat my weight in breadsticks and still be ready for more.
Whole wheat bread makes me put on weight too for some reason.
According to the USDA half of your bread and cereal intake can come from processed food sources (e.g. white bread) , because it's got some fiber.
Also the USDA says junk food isn't junk food anymore, it's simply 'Empty Calories'.
The mounting evidence suggests it's more like poison.
Are they TRYING to make us sicker?
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Posted by: Ayla87 on Oct 5, 2009 10:44 AM
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No, Impossible! There is nothing you can do to change your own health! It's your medication, your education, your job, your genes, even McDonalds for being so good at advertising! Now it's the chemicals. Chemicals that have been in the water for decades, in larger quantities but that doesn't matter because you're fat now and need another another bullshit excuse to layer on top of the dozen or so that you're currently using.
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Posted by: Caleb Darkstar on Oct 5, 2009 11:33 AM
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Step2/ Get your big butt moving. Go outside and walk, go to the mall and walk, go to the gym and exercise. Or just volunteer to do anything physical to keep you moving.
Step 3 / Keep doing step 1 and 2 for, A week? nope. A month or two? wrong again. How about the rest of your life. Go to the front of the class.
And your life will be longer and more enjoyable. And it cost nothing, What a deal.
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 5, 2009 12:19 PM
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It's not surprising that enviro-pollutants have something to do with this alleged "obesity epidemic." In SoCal I see as many scrawny, waif, healthy fit and overweighters as the other. I have to mitigate the crap my kids come home from school with, pointing out that "obesity" in the U.S. is calculated using a National Insurance Institute (okay I may have that trade group's name wrong, go Google it if you care--I have no time for this shit) created in the 1940's and based on NOT ONE SHRED OF SCIENCE. A man my age and height "ought" to weigh 145lbs max. Um, yeah, that's why every god damned MD I've ever been to laughs at that and says if I weighed that for my bone structure, body type and muscle mass I'd be fuckin' dead (well they don't usually say "fuckin'" that's my emphasis--it's a percussive quality...). I'm built like a brown bear minus the height afterall--legs and arms like tree-trunks, a neck like a tank, and a buck chest. I'm built like my Dad and have struggled, just like he did, with keeping excess weight off the middle from age 21 to the present. He dumped his overnight when he hit 60. "Take the stairs, not the 'vator" he always said. Only good advice I ever got from him.
Not only that, the other main cause of dietary fuckups is spelled P-O-V-E-R-T-Y. You can't git skinny on govt cheese, macaroni and ramen noodles. Until the lack of jobs, let alone living wage payin' ones, is addressed, I don't give a damn about what the CDC has to say.
When "obesity" is unlinked from the Insurance industry fuckheads' horseshit and based on actual science, they can call me and I'll rally-up. In the meantime I keep trying to just eat properly with as clean-food as I can scrounge up, collect my bottles & cans for my food budget, ride my bike every-fuckin'-where, do my workouts & training regimens (I'm a prof. sports official, among other things), and do what my PT tells me to (mainly cuz she's hot and yeah, whatever) and not worry about every other piece of shit beyond my control... oh yeah, and hate the shit outta the owning class fuckholes whose corporations are screwing the living daylights out of the rest of us day and night.
Be kind to the poor and fuck the rich pricks. We don't need 'em anymore.
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Posted by: jimidee on Oct 6, 2009 7:42 AM
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Can you say lazy? Sure you can.
Can you see lazy? Everywhere.
What ever happened to personal responsibility?
Human beings are gradually loosing the ability to walk. Just go to Wally World and watch the slugs ride the little carts that were originally for crippled and injured folks.
Can you say Jabba the Hutt?
Do I care? A little, but hey, you guys go ahead and have another brewski and piece of fried chicken...you are making me look more like Brad Pitt every day. (slight joke) I will be the one taking "care" of your wives and girlfriend after I leave my gym.
Fat person challenge: If any fat person were to follow me around for a few months, they would not be fat anymore...it is just that simple. You cannot possibly be fat doing what I do and eating what I eat, and I don't care if you eat the plastic water bottles...
BTW, fat people don't drink water, they drink soda and lots of it.
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It used to make me crazy when AlterNet would publish the results of someone's published scientific research, and the answer would be a torrent of ignorant, anti-science comments that basically boiled down to "I have no facts to support my beliefs, but I know better than these scientists. They're just wrong, and somehow sleazy for daring to publish a research finding that doesn't agree with my prejudices. Any research whose findings I don't like is 'junk science' and/or bullshit ." (Weirdly reminiscent of Dick Cheney, ain't it?)
I've come to regard this process as a valuable spiritual exercise, to keep me from being too smug about the differences between those of us on the Left and the teabagger ignoramuses of the Right. I don't know why progressives can accept climate-change science but not science which suggests that environmental degradation affects our bodies in ways we don't yet understand -- but I can certainly see that it's true.
Turns out, I guess, that we are not all that superior to Creationists or climate-change deniers or the poor saps frothing at the mouth with genuine fear that Obama is a Hitler-cum-witchdoctor-cum-socialist who wants to kill their grandmas. Sure, those folks are ignorant goobers. But so are the many commenters who have aired their medieval-peasant mentalities here today. Ommmm... we are all onnnne...
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Posted by: Candleinheart on Oct 10, 2009 2:55 PM
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The Chiropractor taught me about good nutrition: Since age 19 I stopped all canned drinks, eliminated all foods made with white flour and ate whole grains. Increased fruits/veggies. Eventually married. Pregnant I stopped my few cigarettes in the afternoon. Breast fed kids, prepared all their food myself. Yogurt instead of ice cream, fruits for desserts, etc.Any desserts made were like banana cakes, carrot cakes, orange/lemon cakes. Always from scratch NO MIXES!!!(Read those horrid labels!)something with some nutrition. Sugar always a minimum. For 38 years I enjoyed excellent health. Prevention the key.
Eat foods as nature intended. The advice by some after this article is keep it simple, keep it pure. Fresh organic meats veggies when possible. Experiment with different grains,think BEAUTY on your plate. Does a hot dog, with french fries and a coke really appeal as opposed to a green salad with grated carrots,radishes, celery, parsley, raw mushrooms, a few raw spinach leaves with sliced grilled chicken strips on it not appeal to the eye? Colors have vibration. More colorful foods raise vibration levels. Natural vitamins when broken down by spectroscopes (?) show a rainbow of graded colors, where synthetic vitamins leave a band 2/3 less in scope;flat,dead. Best to eat WHOLE foods! I am 73. NO arthritis. NO hip pains. NO body pains...yes,some bp as I got older, and emotional issues but my hair shines and skin color is good. Invest in yourself and your health. Get high on he Beauty of luscious veggies/fruits. Snack on almond butter and apple, celery and hummus, fruit and cheese, carrot sticks and raisens, walnuts stuffed in dates, Good Grief! One Sweet Potatoe has 38,000 units of Vitamin A! Zhucchini loaded with potassium.Sesame Tahini loaded with minerals and calcium. All the vitamins and minerals you need are in your food chosen for wholeness and beauty.
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Posted by: CaliJim on Oct 10, 2009 5:28 PM
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How about portion sizes? Over the last few decades, portion sizes and calorie content of our foods has increased enormously. Here's a link to a chart that demonstrates that fact. (http://www.worldhealth.net/news/portion_size_then_and_now/)
During the same time period, we basically eliminated Physical Education and exercise requirements in the schools. According to my own admittedly meager personal research, vastly increasing caloric intake while reducing exercise to burn up the calories makes you FAT...what a shock!
Interestingly, I am 6' 2" tall and weigh in the range of 176-178 lbs...and have been told by a friend that I "look anorexic"! According to the BMI calculations, I'm at about 22, which is nearly perfect for my height...so, my friend's perception of "normal size" has obviously been skewed by viewing the average population. A few years ago, I hit my highest weight ever...238 lbs - and decided I had to do something to lose weight. I cut way back on carbohydrates, increased my protein intake and started to exercise while watching TV in the evenings instead of sitting on my ass on the couch...no change in my exposure to the chemicals as far as I know.
Certainly, there are bound to be some people who are negatively impacted by the chemicals, genetic problems and other issues, but for the vast majority, it appears to me to be just an excuse for not controlling what they eat and how much exercise they get.
IF you cut back on calories, increase your exercise, are careful about carbohydrate intake and all the rest and STILL don't lose weight, perhaps you have a valid reason to suspect the chemicals...but, let's try the basics first, huh?
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Posted by: paulaH on Oct 3, 2009 10:11 AM
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Of course, in our economy, very few women can be stay at home Moms and cook nightly. I can't blame women who don't cook balanced meals every night. When men get home, their day is done. When a woman gets home, her second job has just started.
A lot of women I know want to work; more that I know would prefer to stay home but can't. Why don't YOU go home and cook a balanced meal every night.
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Posted by: BlueTigress on Oct 4, 2009 10:49 AM
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It didn't come out very well so now he thinks that every woman on the planet owes him a blowjob and a hot meal in that order.
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It makes you long for simpler times when we had more wholesome and natural excuses like having big bones and retaining water.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 3, 2009 5:26 AM
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But the likelyhood/level of synthetic chemicals to contributing to obesity is very likely miniscule.
We really need to keep our eyes on the most likely risks.(diet,excercise,SES) and allocate our limited resources toward those risks
I might had that the issue of "self blame" or "sin" has no place in contemporary medicine.
Dr.Rick Lippin
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Posted by: andrushka on Oct 3, 2009 5:55 AM
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pizzas the size of a cycle wheel. potato-couch eating, etc......
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Posted by: brianct on Oct 3, 2009 5:58 AM
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This tells us that something has changed in modern cultures where obesity is common..Something new was added last century..If you go to philippines, you will see little in the way of obesity. Ditto with japan...etc.Reason? their diets are still fairly traditional.
NOW our foods have been fiddled with for varius scientific and commercial reasons: greed by food companies eager to have us digest their product (eg soy flour in bread, where it neednt be at all); GM canola in many canned and bottled goods,,,and of course, trans-fatty acids predominate, created by those who had us afraid of saturated fats...
Ths clue to the obesity epidemic lies here.. in hydrogenation of unsaturated fats...this is something new in human diets...
'Passwater: Dr. Enig, a lot of people are interested in "trans" fats now. You have been researching them since 1977. How are trans fats harmful to us?
Enig: More than a decade of research at the University of Maryland, as well as research that was being done at other institutions, showed that consumption of trans fatty acids from partially hydrogenated (a process that adds hydrogen to solidify or harden) vegetable fats and oils had many adverse effects in health areas such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, immunity, reproduction and lactation, and obesity. It is rather easy today to come up with a long list of these adverse effects from the published research done by many scientists around the world, as well as the researchers at the University of Maryland.'
transfatty acids cause abdominal fat
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Posted by: Ka-bird on Oct 3, 2009 6:06 AM
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Posted by: bthespoon on Oct 3, 2009 6:07 AM
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Then there are all sorts of hormones from grelin and leptin (that determine a body's ability or inability to feel hungry or satiated) to adrenal stress hormones that can make a huge difference too. A cascade of bad-for-you health effects (weight gain) awaits anyone who develops trouble sleeping for any reason. Many women who were never overwieght previously become overweight after menopause without changing their diet.
Of course diet and exercise are important, but still Oprah Winfrey has to work ten times harder to never be able to look as good as Halle Berry does naturally.
After we gain more information and public awareness, I believe someday we as a nation will be ashamed at how we discriminate against overweight people.
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Posted by: len2 on Oct 3, 2009 6:20 AM
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BigBusiness for health providers who pocket $200B/year on overweight and related diseases.
As always, follow the money.
One can always counter the never-ending, always expanding toxic fog of medicalizing BS (like this article) about fat (aka "It ain't my fault I'm fat."), the simple truth is that Americans overeat, and eat lots of dead crap.
If you want to lose weight, maintain leanness, eat less. This is the key, NOT exercise.
If you want to be fit, exercise.
Trying to exercise away your overeating is risible stupidity.
If man made it, don't put in your mouth.
If man didn't eat it 10,000 years ago, don't eat it now.
If it doesn't rot, don't eat it.
("It's dead, Jim")
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Posted by: cortez on Oct 3, 2009 6:30 AM
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It is amazing how otherwise intelligent people insist on fertilizing their lawns and having pesticides sprayed only to play with their kids and pets on the lawns hours later. Do they think their health problems (many)are unrelated and that the chemicals are not tracked back into the house? In most neighborhoods not dumping chemicals on your lawn makes you a renegade (guilty as charged). There is a mindset at work here that is not only environmentally unfriendly it is also unhealthy.
Added to the chemicals in the house there are those we put in our bodies. High fructose corn syrup is everywhere as is Splenda and all those other artificial sweeteners, which are chemicals that change your sense of taste, among other things, so you get used to intense sweet flavors, which makes you crave more (super-sized drinks and 1500 calorie burgers did not exist in the 1950s), which leads to eating more...
Then add into the mix the trans fats in fast food and the fact that in this country people tend to eat and run, or even eat and drive or eat and email/text. Enjoying food with family and friends at a leisurely pace could also be part of the answer as stress affects the body as do social factors (eating alone in the car while running errands is not the same as having a long lunch with colleagues or family).
A lack of sleep, lack of vacation time, and most certainly a lack of economic security (jobs, health insurance)also play their parts in the obesity puzzle.
The article was interesting but only the tip of the obesity iceberg, methinks.
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Posted by: hagwind on Oct 3, 2009 7:15 AM
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When the subject of fat comes up, even AlterNet journalists lose whatever critical faculties they've got. This article, like so many others, never distinguishes between "fat," "overweight," and "obese." Like obscenity, I guess, we're supposed to know it when we see it. And it's irresponsible for a supposedly progressive website to intone stuff like "CDC reports that in 2000, obesity related health care costs came to $117 billion" without at least alluding to the other factors involved, like poverty and depression.
And while we're at it, could you give the word "epidemic" a rest? That way I'd at least have the illusion that you're not parroting the same script as the mainstream media.
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Posted by: clvngodess on Oct 3, 2009 7:46 AM
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Turns out, I have a disease that is now affecting more and more people, specifically women. Hashimoto's Disease. It's an autoimmune affliction that essentially inflames and destroys the thyroid. So I'm now a middle aged menopausal woman who is an uncomfortable 30 pounds over weight. The meds don't help to burn off the gain.
Sadly, flouride is a contributor. Soy is a contributor. Gluten is a contributor. Drinking tea, or any alcohol contributes. MSG contributes. Canola oil contributes. Corn contributes. And according to my physician the combination of various hormones in dairy and other products along with chemicals such as endocrine disruptors are all contributors to why my thyroid is now not functioning.
Add to that, that this condition may show up with "normal" readings in blood work, but have other symptoms; hair loss, increased sleeping/fatigue, brittle skin and nails, anemia, depression and other symtoms....
I'm not fat because I'm lazy and super size while watching football, things I do not do. I'm fat because my body cannot handle what was hidden in my food which then contributed to the destruction response to my thyroid. And I probably had this disease my whole life and no one bothered to check.
There are a lot of hidden poisons in our foods disguised as spices, natural flavors, hydrogenated fats, high fructose corn sweeteners, modified food starch or soy proteins, all of which have an accumulative effect on the body. What you end up with all depends on how your body manages to utilize the crap we eat.
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Posted by: 2dogarage on Oct 3, 2009 7:48 AM
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A good way to avoid pthalates is to filter your own tap water, download into glass bottles (I use Synergy Kombucha bottles)and store in the refrigerator for travel.
I also choose to live in the mountains where the air is clean(er) and there is no toxic industry nearby.
Some people bemoan what big business is doing to our air, water and food and yet choose to have children in areas that are obviously highly polluted.
Perhaps if each individual were to weigh the pros and cons of their own actions and instead of blaming the agents of entropy that lurk without insist on a world that fosters health and not death things would change.
In the meantime it's fairly simple for a conscious person to avoid the near occasion of obesity and ill-health by industrial predation.
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Posted by: Gravitas on Oct 3, 2009 7:59 AM
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One thing that sticks in my beautiful, HEALTHY ample derriere though is that they keep using stats from the CDC as to how fat we are. The CDC is in the back pocket of special interests. Weight standards were lowered against good science to sell more pills. The CDC is to Pharma what the Federal Reserve is to bankers.
Thanks to Alternet for their courage in printing this. As for all those who remain skeptical, maybe it is time for you to look inside and ask yourself why. Maybe fat hatred serves a psychological function for you. Maybe you are projecting your own resistance to grow emotionally on fat people. You can only see us as refusing to change our bodies because at some level you refuse to open your minds.
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Posted by: mrxls on Oct 3, 2009 8:03 AM
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When I see an obese person I think impulsiveness, sloth, ignorance and suffering. I also think they're probably having a lot of fun eating and are happy to avoid the pain of physical activity. I don't need some reason to absolve friends and family members who are obese of responsibility for their condition in order to love and cherish them. Obesity is not someone's essence but it is a reflection on how they are choosing to go through life.
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History of Hemp Hearts
"... I was certainly not the first to discover that the “heart” of the hemp seed could be used to change diets and reverse serious health conditions. The Latin name for the hemp plant, cannabis sativa, means most perfect food, but for at least seven thousand years before the plant was given its Latin name, human history was frequently linked to the use of hemp seeds for health and energy.
"The most comprehensive and amazing scientific study ever performed on the effect of the “heart” of the hemp seed on human health was undertaken by Dr. Jan Kabelik, director of The Institute of Hygiene and Epidemiology at Palacky University, Dr. F. Santavy, director of the Institute of Medical Chemistry at Palacky University and Dr. Josef Sirek, Chairman of the Tuberculosis Hospital at Jince, Czechoslovakia.
"For over thirty years, when modern drugs were not available, these doctors and their many colleagues used the dissolved “hearts” of hemp seeds ... to cure tuberculosis in all of the individuals treated--mostly children. Their records of their procedures and results are meticulous ... The doctors credited their success to the unique protein composition of hemp seeds. "
Open Secrets: Lobbying Spending Database
The top lobbyists of all time include the American Medical Association, the American Hospitals Association and Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturing. In short, sickness is Big Business. In other words, the System is not interested in fixing the Problem.
The unemployment rate is close to 10%? Once 10% of amerikans are eliminated either by going to prison or into a hospital, then the economic crisis will be "officially" over. You don't think so? Ask yourself (or better yet, your government representative) why something as innocuous and beneficial as industrial hemp is STILL illegal in the Land of the "Free".
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Nope, sorry, you misinterpreted the CDC's report or your math is wrong.
NCHS and CDC Data Brief:
"More than one-third of U.S. adults were obese in 2005–2006. This includes 33.3% of men and 35.3% of women."
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Boy! This world is just out to get me.....
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 3, 2009 12:28 PM
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But the truth is that her body is always muscularly active - even when she is asleep...
Her fingers and toes are always moving
She is alive
Whereas I who eat much less than she does, get fat if she doesn't drag me out with her cycling and walking and dancing and stuff.
My body is not naturally active all the time. Like if I just sit there my fingers and toes are not twitching continuously - unless I am listening to some really good music.
Tony
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basic info above to understand the rest:
The job of mitochondria is to supply energy in the form of ATP (adenosine triphosphate). This is the universal currency of energy. It can be used for all sorts of biochemical jobs from muscle contraction to hormone production. When mitochondria fail, this results in poor supply of ATP, so cells go slow because they do not have the energy supply to function at a normal speed. This means that all bodily functions go slow.The job of mitochondria is to supply energy in the form of ATP (adenosine triphosphate). This is the universal currency of energy. It can be used for all sorts of biochemical jobs from muscle contraction to hormone production. When mitochondria fail, this results in poor supply of ATP, so cells go slow because they do not have the energy supply to function at a normal speed. This means that all bodily functions go slow.
MSG flow chart on this link very interesting:
http://www.msgtruth.org/
MSG in baby formula yep look it up as the link will not work.
A search on drugs that cause mitochodrial dysfunction may save you a lot of pain as that link will not work either. Especially dangerous are antidepressants but the list is long.
All these things that can damage the mitochondria can make you fat and if fat is alll you get you are one of the lucky ones.
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Go to the Fluoride Action Network and see all the problems that fluoride causes, and it will not prevent tooth decay when you drink it. It's only approved for topical use. That's why the hygienist tells you NOT to swallow, and your toothpaste tube tells you to go to the poison control center if you swallow it.
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Sorry, the FACTS are that Americans eat like pigs in both quality and quantity; PERIOD. If the toxic chemicals in our environment are a contributing factor then all the more reason to apply self-discipline in not only what we eat but in what we define as acceptable in our "disposable plastic world".
Stop trying to place the blame 100% on external influences and take personal responsibility for not only your own actions but for the detrimental actions that WE ALLOW corporate America to shove down our throats.
Quit making EXCUSES and start taking ACTION.
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Mentioning pacifiers made me wonder when the phenomenon started. (You don't see them in Dorothea's Lange's photos of the Depression.)
I wonder whether there is any chance that pacifiers predispose one to compulsive eating.
Whether or not, frequency, and duration of pacifier use really belongs in oral histories
of children. Some pediatricians may have made such notes.
Sugar free gum, courtesy of Donald Rumsfeld's pushing that through the FDA, could also predispose some to eat compulsively.
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» The whine of the conspiracy-monger.
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Exercise the arm, elbow, hands and mouth less and I guarantee you will lose weight.
Plus, to pig out they way a huge number of Americans do and then think you will lose weight with exercise is whistling Dixie. Is not going to happen.
Cut the calories a lot. Lose weight.
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This American generation has gotten fat explosively fast. 20 years ago there was no such thing as 30% obesity throughout the southern states. Boy are we dead!
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 3, 2009 6:29 PM
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Five Blokes of all ages with The Godfather watching everything
And their really pretty Girls
Now I Don't Mind Giving Your Pretty Daughter a Pound
But Don't Steal My Pint of Beer Again
Or I am Likely To Get Annoyed
They think I Don't Know Their History...
But about 8 years ago, they stole my fucking car...
And had a bonfire with it
OK my car was fucked and only worth about £400
But it still went - even if it was a bit jumpy
And I was pretty skint at the time
And I couldn't fucking believe it
I was about to go and pick up my daughter from her evening class...
I had the keys in my hand
But where is the car?
The car had gone
So you have stolen my car - and you steal my beer - and I do not want to shag your daughter...what's the deal?
People Are Hurting - Even Here and Now - In Our Country ENGLAND
And Are Stealing So They Can Eat
Tony
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But about 8 years ago, they stole my fucking car...
And had a bonfire with it
OK my car was fucked and only worth about £400
But it still went - even if it was a bit jumpy
And I was pretty skint at the time
And I couldn't fucking believe it
I was about to go and pick up my daughter from her evening class...
I had the keys in my hand
But where is the car?
The car had gone
So you have stolen my car - and you steal my beer - and I do not want to shag your daughter...what's the deal?
People Are Hurting - Even Here and Now - In Our Country ENGLAND
And Are Stealing So They Can Eat
The IRISH Have Wanked Out
If You Think Us ENGLISH Were Cunts
And We Were
You Do Not Realise What It Will Be Like To Have A NAZI Cunt Up Your ARSE
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Europeans have less exposure to these environmental chemicals because they require corporations to prove that their chemicals are safe, not the situation in the US where someone else has to prove that the chemicals are harmful. Despite that, the Brits are now fast approaching the US in their girth size, and other countries that have adopted US life styles are close behind.
The other way of blowing this thesis out of the water is to look at the distribution of obesity in the US and lo and behold, you find that it follows diets heavy in fat and life styles low in exercise, not chemicals in the environment.
This is NOT to say that these chemicals are harmless, just that you can't blame them for the obesity epidemic. They need to be removed and a European legal philosophy that the manufacturer first has to prove no harm before foisting their product on the public should be instituted. But the nice thing about this article is that it takes the onus off the person responsible for their body condition and puts the onus on someone else. Now obese people don't have to try to get healthy. Is the author actually trying to institute a population control mechanism by killing off people as fast as possible? Sort of like the Cheney/Bush program of killing off people of reproductive age in wars of choice.
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Over 100 mg methanol impurity per liter wine becomes formaldehyde and then formic acid in humans -- co-factors for "morning after" hangovers -- folic acid protects most people.
There is the same level of methanol from the 11% methanol part of the aspartame molecule in 2 L [ 6 cans ] aspartame beverages.
Obesity is commonly involved.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/579335
Dermatitis. 2008; 19(3): E10-E11.
© 2008 American Contact Dermatitis Society
Formaldehyde, Aspartame, and Migraines: A Possible Connection
Sharon E. Jacob; Sarah Stechschulte
Published: 09/17/2008
Abstract
Aspartame is a widely used artificial sweetener that has been linked to pediatric and adolescent migraines.
Upon ingestion, aspartame is broken, converted, and oxidized into
formaldehyde in various tissues.
We present the first case series of aspartame-associated migraines related to clinically relevant positive reactions to formaldehyde
on patch testing.
formaldehyde, aspartame, and migraines, the first case series, Sharon E Jacob-Soo, Sarah A Stechschulte, UCSD, Dermatitis 2008 May:
Rich Murray 2008.07.18
http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_archive.htm
Friday, July 18, 2008
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1553
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 3, 2009 8:03 PM
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And there are some pubs that also serve up musicians...
And so all our friends communicate with each other and we go to the pubs who serve up
Great Musicians
Usually within walking distance or a bus ride away
Tony
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But They Don't Get It.....
No I do not have to get up at 6:30 am and work through till 11pm
And get home by midnight and have a bit of sleep and get up at 6:30 am and do it again
EVERY DAY
cOS THE WORK IS SO INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT
I am now Retired
And don't have to do that every day
But I would if the end result was that Tony Blair was in The International Court of Human Rights on The Charge Of War Crimes Against Humanity...
How come I have so much energy and passion - whilst maybe you are just a lawyer and couldn't give a fuck about innocence or guilt - so long as you get paid??
Tony
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But there are MANY other factors beyond simply diet and exercise.
Thyroid function, hormonal balance, neurotransmitter balance, gastrointestinal function, liver function, blood sugar management, and even basic mitochondrial function on a cellular level all play a critical role in fat loss.
This article gets it partly right, but there is much more to the fat loss picture.
Be well,
Dr. Bryan Walsh
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Posted by: Bibsisis on Oct 3, 2009 8:43 PM
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It's the study of the day. Fat people, obese people, and I'm not talking about people of a certain age who have a few pounds--even drs. allow that--simply need to stop eating SO MUCH.
How many of us have ever been in restaurants seeing fat and obese people stuffing themselves with bread and butter and potatoes and desserts without thinking, ooh, why do they do this?
On a related topic, smoking, I tell you facts which have a correlation regarding health care and smoking. You might not know smokers pay $26,000,000,000 dollars in taxes, yes, billion, for their health care in excess taxes which not only pays for their health care, but for a myriad of health and non-related services for non-smokers, who DO NOT pay these "sin taxes," many of whom are obese.
So if we're going after the smokers in excessive taxes which covers any disease they get, unrelated to smoking, and which pays for diseases of non-smokers, let's levy taxes on food, e.g., bacon, potato chips and other non-nutritional snacks, soft drinks of all kinds, sugar-filled cookies and cereal, high fat milk and cheese, potatoes, corn, carrots, fast food of most kinds, etc.
Levying higher taxes will not stop smokers from smoking; higher taxes on unhealthy foodstuffs will not keep fat or obese people from eating them; in our democracy, we have choices. Some of us pay for them; some benefit because the rest of us do.
Regardless of all studies I've read for fifty years, people get fat because they eat too much, period. I don't buy this article's premise that it's in the air or the chemicals or anything else. Anyone who truly wants to lose weight can. It's a choice.
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Preservatives prevent biological cellular metabolism, that’s why they are called preservatives.
In 1202 those who added fillers or preservatives to their bread or beer were hanged.
Should we start hanging chemists?
What chemists fail to remember is we are all downstream.
Back to fat, if you don’t exercise and eat too much especially foods with preservatives YOU are going to get fat and its your fault. You bought it and you ate it.
We are what we eat.
Since before the formation of the FDA our government has been allowing more and more chemicals to be added to our food, water and air. Our bodies are incapable of metabolizing synthetic compounds. Aspirin? or White Willow Bark? Both will address a headache but aspirin can kill you when the Bark of the Willow will not.
We want to blame someone for our fat,? Sorry the buck stops where you belly covers your belt buckle. Our health is our responsibility.
We can be heard by our State and National governments by remembering WE SPEND THE MONEY.
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Posted by: Prinzowhales on Oct 4, 2009 8:20 AM
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I read that 75% of high school graduates in Oklahoma couldn't name the first president of the United States. I doubt very seriously if they know how to eat healthy or cook, either. America is raising up a new generation of chronicly ill, fat, ignorant people....the real 'Pepsi Generation.'
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Posted by: LeaderofMen on Oct 4, 2009 8:27 AM
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Obesogens? Totally false. Totally made up. Trace chemicals? Sure. But all you have to do is look at other countries to see that they use the same type of products we do and they're not obese like us.
Marketing is big business, just like pharmas are HUGE business here. Clever marketing that pushes garbage food onto the public, and the fact that Americans are **willfully ignorant** (about most things), are the two main reasons why we have an obese population.
That's all you need to know.
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Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Oct 4, 2009 11:06 AM
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In the United States statistics show that the poor are more frequently obese. I would reccommend that you read a British book. It is "The Spirit Level" by Wilkinson and Prichett. Amazon UK has it. Amazon US will have it in December. When you finish with it you will decide that the above article is only 'messing' with one corner of the problem. It's not wrong. It is just not right enough.
It is a difficult problem. It is multifaceted. I am personally assured that there are facets that we have yet to even guess at.
Having said that I can take you to people that were stocky in build, but after heavy steroid usage ended up obese. My first wife got sick at 53 and died at 58. She never weighed over 115. It was genetic. My new gal is badly overweight. She eats like a bird. She has had heavy duty steroid treatment to bounce her out of pneumonia. This has happened as often as three times a year. I don't think she will ever be well.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Oct 4, 2009 11:09 AM
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My viewpoint comes from the fact that I'm a thin person who is always unsuccessfully trying to gain weight.
This is strange. Since eating is a pleasure, and fatteinng foods are the yummiest, gaining weight should be as easy as losing weight is hard. Just let yourself go and have seconds of everything...
But of course, it just ain't so. This convinces me that we shouldn't give big people a hard time, even if they couldn't squish us like bugs. Their bodies are set on being big, just as mine is set on being small. It's probably God having a good laugh on us.
I'm certainly not a model of self-control or spiritual mastery because I have stayed svelte for my whole life, though you're welcome to think so.
On the contrary, if anyone is a glutton, it's us skinny guys, who are always making our big friends faint with the things we scarf down.
So--even though my problem is the opposite of the national one--my experience suggests weight is fundamentally a body-type thing, though the American lifestyle will kill anyone. I recommend yoga and its sister science, ayurveda, for humans of all sizes.
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The Brits have done this. They placed a fresh cadaver in a body bag. They left it to "mature" at room temperature. They then did as complete an anayalsis as they were able. The body would contain almost every know disease. Interestingly they almost always found bubonic plague. The cadaver in life had not died from the ailments they found. His/her immune system had held them in check. The implication is that we would all be dead if our immune system wasn't keeping truly awful things in constant check.
The take away from this is that you may well be "catching" your illness from yourself. All it may well take to cause illness is for your immune system to be overwhelmed. Here enters stress.
It is for sure that a new strain of virus is being correctly analylized. There is no immunity. But other illnesses can and do come from stress. You self infect.
How much of obesity is stress related? The stress of poverty and "hard" living is going to loom bigger than we had expected. The statistics support this. Obesity follows wealth. The wealthy are more seldom obese.
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Oct 4, 2009 12:33 PM
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Now, the chemicals in foods such as MSG, high frustose corn syrup, aspartame, etc ... have been known to cause obesity thanks to those chemicals making the foods addictive so that people would eat uncontrollably and get unhealthy. Sure, that's great for those manufacturers who want those volume sales coming and what better ways to get them than by seducing more people for more of the same.
Another cause is lack of being social and sometimes getting depressed and feeling rejected. I remember when I was younger I used to eat compulsively when I got depressed. For a while it would feel like eating like crazy would get me out of that depressed feeling but it kept coming back. I had so much to regret from that but am glad that I overcame the eating from depression madness over the years.
I have heard about hemp based plastics and can see where hemp would replace crude oil based plastics but I don't see where that alone will help reduce obesity.
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» RE: I would say it's the addictive chemicals in our foods and that society has gotten less social.
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Posted by: DHFabian on Oct 4, 2009 12:45 PM
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Posted by: glen brammel on Oct 4, 2009 6:50 PM
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Posted by: Noah_Scape on Oct 4, 2009 7:47 PM
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EVERY obese person I know drinks sugary soda pop and eats processed carbs and sugary foods, and they do not get any exersize that raises their heart rates or makes them breathe hard. They pig out and are slothlike.
CALORIES IN Vs. CALORIES OUT = FAT OR NOT FAT
My life represents a small sample of the population, but still, I have to believe what I see.
If there is BLAME, it should go to food advertising on TV> those delicious looking images certainly must trigger the hunger system in our bodies.
Also, there is a TV ad running now from a diet centre that actually gives 'the excuse', saying "Remember, its not YOU, its you metabolism". I say BAH!!
Detractors:
Yes, there is room for metabolism, but that only means those people have to be more carefull, and work out harder.
Depression is another key factor - can I blame someone who is too depressed to look after themselves? [no, but the fat is still from calories!]
The chemicals mentioned probably are a factor, and obesity is one more reason they should be banned.
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» RE: Pop and chips and sloth
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Posted by: franklyspanking on Oct 4, 2009 8:46 PM
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Have fun with your faerie tales, if it makes you happy.
There are some chemicals that can mimic female hormones on men...promote their plumping up in the places females pack it on...when members of either sex engage in too much Mikkie Dees instead of necessary or voluntary (jog/work out) labor.
You figure it out. Consult your belt size.
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Posted by: mrtwilight23 on Oct 4, 2009 10:49 PM
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The very foundation of the pyramid recommends something like 6-8 servings of bread a day.
Bread makes me gain weight.
It also makes me hungry.
I could go the Olive Garden and eat my weight in breadsticks and still be ready for more.
Whole wheat bread makes me put on weight too for some reason.
According to the USDA half of your bread and cereal intake can come from processed food sources (e.g. white bread) , because it's got some fiber.
Also the USDA says junk food isn't junk food anymore, it's simply 'Empty Calories'.
The mounting evidence suggests it's more like poison.
Are they TRYING to make us sicker?
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» RE: Obesity Is Not Your Fault...it is the F**king Bread!
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Posted by: Ayla87 on Oct 5, 2009 10:44 AM
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No, Impossible! There is nothing you can do to change your own health! It's your medication, your education, your job, your genes, even McDonalds for being so good at advertising! Now it's the chemicals. Chemicals that have been in the water for decades, in larger quantities but that doesn't matter because you're fat now and need another another bullshit excuse to layer on top of the dozen or so that you're currently using.
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Posted by: Caleb Darkstar on Oct 5, 2009 11:33 AM
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Step2/ Get your big butt moving. Go outside and walk, go to the mall and walk, go to the gym and exercise. Or just volunteer to do anything physical to keep you moving.
Step 3 / Keep doing step 1 and 2 for, A week? nope. A month or two? wrong again. How about the rest of your life. Go to the front of the class.
And your life will be longer and more enjoyable. And it cost nothing, What a deal.
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 5, 2009 12:19 PM
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It's not surprising that enviro-pollutants have something to do with this alleged "obesity epidemic." In SoCal I see as many scrawny, waif, healthy fit and overweighters as the other. I have to mitigate the crap my kids come home from school with, pointing out that "obesity" in the U.S. is calculated using a National Insurance Institute (okay I may have that trade group's name wrong, go Google it if you care--I have no time for this shit) created in the 1940's and based on NOT ONE SHRED OF SCIENCE. A man my age and height "ought" to weigh 145lbs max. Um, yeah, that's why every god damned MD I've ever been to laughs at that and says if I weighed that for my bone structure, body type and muscle mass I'd be fuckin' dead (well they don't usually say "fuckin'" that's my emphasis--it's a percussive quality...). I'm built like a brown bear minus the height afterall--legs and arms like tree-trunks, a neck like a tank, and a buck chest. I'm built like my Dad and have struggled, just like he did, with keeping excess weight off the middle from age 21 to the present. He dumped his overnight when he hit 60. "Take the stairs, not the 'vator" he always said. Only good advice I ever got from him.
Not only that, the other main cause of dietary fuckups is spelled P-O-V-E-R-T-Y. You can't git skinny on govt cheese, macaroni and ramen noodles. Until the lack of jobs, let alone living wage payin' ones, is addressed, I don't give a damn about what the CDC has to say.
When "obesity" is unlinked from the Insurance industry fuckheads' horseshit and based on actual science, they can call me and I'll rally-up. In the meantime I keep trying to just eat properly with as clean-food as I can scrounge up, collect my bottles & cans for my food budget, ride my bike every-fuckin'-where, do my workouts & training regimens (I'm a prof. sports official, among other things), and do what my PT tells me to (mainly cuz she's hot and yeah, whatever) and not worry about every other piece of shit beyond my control... oh yeah, and hate the shit outta the owning class fuckholes whose corporations are screwing the living daylights out of the rest of us day and night.
Be kind to the poor and fuck the rich pricks. We don't need 'em anymore.
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Posted by: jimidee on Oct 6, 2009 7:42 AM
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Can you say lazy? Sure you can.
Can you see lazy? Everywhere.
What ever happened to personal responsibility?
Human beings are gradually loosing the ability to walk. Just go to Wally World and watch the slugs ride the little carts that were originally for crippled and injured folks.
Can you say Jabba the Hutt?
Do I care? A little, but hey, you guys go ahead and have another brewski and piece of fried chicken...you are making me look more like Brad Pitt every day. (slight joke) I will be the one taking "care" of your wives and girlfriend after I leave my gym.
Fat person challenge: If any fat person were to follow me around for a few months, they would not be fat anymore...it is just that simple. You cannot possibly be fat doing what I do and eating what I eat, and I don't care if you eat the plastic water bottles...
BTW, fat people don't drink water, they drink soda and lots of it.
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Posted by: WyrdSister on Oct 6, 2009 10:25 AM
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Posted by: westomoon on Oct 6, 2009 7:03 PM
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It used to make me crazy when AlterNet would publish the results of someone's published scientific research, and the answer would be a torrent of ignorant, anti-science comments that basically boiled down to "I have no facts to support my beliefs, but I know better than these scientists. They're just wrong, and somehow sleazy for daring to publish a research finding that doesn't agree with my prejudices. Any research whose findings I don't like is 'junk science' and/or bullshit ." (Weirdly reminiscent of Dick Cheney, ain't it?)
I've come to regard this process as a valuable spiritual exercise, to keep me from being too smug about the differences between those of us on the Left and the teabagger ignoramuses of the Right. I don't know why progressives can accept climate-change science but not science which suggests that environmental degradation affects our bodies in ways we don't yet understand -- but I can certainly see that it's true.
Turns out, I guess, that we are not all that superior to Creationists or climate-change deniers or the poor saps frothing at the mouth with genuine fear that Obama is a Hitler-cum-witchdoctor-cum-socialist who wants to kill their grandmas. Sure, those folks are ignorant goobers. But so are the many commenters who have aired their medieval-peasant mentalities here today. Ommmm... we are all onnnne...
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Posted by: Bibsisis on Oct 9, 2009 11:27 PM
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Posted by: Candleinheart on Oct 10, 2009 2:55 PM
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The Chiropractor taught me about good nutrition: Since age 19 I stopped all canned drinks, eliminated all foods made with white flour and ate whole grains. Increased fruits/veggies. Eventually married. Pregnant I stopped my few cigarettes in the afternoon. Breast fed kids, prepared all their food myself. Yogurt instead of ice cream, fruits for desserts, etc.Any desserts made were like banana cakes, carrot cakes, orange/lemon cakes. Always from scratch NO MIXES!!!(Read those horrid labels!)something with some nutrition. Sugar always a minimum. For 38 years I enjoyed excellent health. Prevention the key.
Eat foods as nature intended. The advice by some after this article is keep it simple, keep it pure. Fresh organic meats veggies when possible. Experiment with different grains,think BEAUTY on your plate. Does a hot dog, with french fries and a coke really appeal as opposed to a green salad with grated carrots,radishes, celery, parsley, raw mushrooms, a few raw spinach leaves with sliced grilled chicken strips on it not appeal to the eye? Colors have vibration. More colorful foods raise vibration levels. Natural vitamins when broken down by spectroscopes (?) show a rainbow of graded colors, where synthetic vitamins leave a band 2/3 less in scope;flat,dead. Best to eat WHOLE foods! I am 73. NO arthritis. NO hip pains. NO body pains...yes,some bp as I got older, and emotional issues but my hair shines and skin color is good. Invest in yourself and your health. Get high on he Beauty of luscious veggies/fruits. Snack on almond butter and apple, celery and hummus, fruit and cheese, carrot sticks and raisens, walnuts stuffed in dates, Good Grief! One Sweet Potatoe has 38,000 units of Vitamin A! Zhucchini loaded with potassium.Sesame Tahini loaded with minerals and calcium. All the vitamins and minerals you need are in your food chosen for wholeness and beauty.
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Posted by: CaliJim on Oct 10, 2009 5:28 PM
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How about portion sizes? Over the last few decades, portion sizes and calorie content of our foods has increased enormously. Here's a link to a chart that demonstrates that fact. (http://www.worldhealth.net/news/portion_size_then_and_now/)
During the same time period, we basically eliminated Physical Education and exercise requirements in the schools. According to my own admittedly meager personal research, vastly increasing caloric intake while reducing exercise to burn up the calories makes you FAT...what a shock!
Interestingly, I am 6' 2" tall and weigh in the range of 176-178 lbs...and have been told by a friend that I "look anorexic"! According to the BMI calculations, I'm at about 22, which is nearly perfect for my height...so, my friend's perception of "normal size" has obviously been skewed by viewing the average population. A few years ago, I hit my highest weight ever...238 lbs - and decided I had to do something to lose weight. I cut way back on carbohydrates, increased my protein intake and started to exercise while watching TV in the evenings instead of sitting on my ass on the couch...no change in my exposure to the chemicals as far as I know.
Certainly, there are bound to be some people who are negatively impacted by the chemicals, genetic problems and other issues, but for the vast majority, it appears to me to be just an excuse for not controlling what they eat and how much exercise they get.
IF you cut back on calories, increase your exercise, are careful about carbohydrate intake and all the rest and STILL don't lose weight, perhaps you have a valid reason to suspect the chemicals...but, let's try the basics first, huh?
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