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Mythmaking 101: Why Millions Have Bought into 'Death Panel' Propaganda
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Renowned scholar Joseph Campbell accounts for the ubiquity and power of myth by relating its capacity to clothe the infinite in the language of the finite. While this may be true in a certain context, Campbell’s approach doesn’t help us understand two basic truths about mythmaking in today’s America, namely that the health care reform legislation currently before Congress is heavily mythologized; and for at least some Americans, this mythology is far more engaging than the actual legislation.
As Sharon Begley points out in this week’s Newsweek, while there do exist “honest and principled objections to health care reforms,” the most common (and vehement) rebuttals heard in the public square in recent months are, at best, profoundly distorted “exaggerations,” and at worst outright fabrications. To cite but a handful of examples: where the actual health care reform bill calls for electronic fund transfers from insurers to doctors, critics fear that “the government will have electronic access to everyone’s bank account”; where databases in which those not covered by private or employer plans may locate medical providers are mandated, critics see commissioners and bureaucrats deciding what benefits and treatments are appropriate; where optional end-of-life counseling is available, critics decry “death panels” and forced euthanasia of the old and infirm.
Importantly, I do not believe that re-reading the proposed legislation, however closely, will resolve these differences. For the belief structures that Begley identifies are not necessarily the result of a lack of familiarity with the text, but of a particular way of thinking. In an attempt to unpack this way of thinking, I shall turn to the work of another 20th-century thinker, one who likewise worked to understand the role of mythmaking in popular culture.
France is a Great Empire
For philosopher Roland Barthes, working in the context of 1950s France, myth is what he calls a second-order language, one that is built upon linguistic “signs.” A sign, in layman’s terms, is a word plus its meaning. A mythological construct is generated when a linguistic sign is coded with new and additional meanings. When I give a rose to my lover (to use one of Barthes’ examples) this implies my passion and commitment, not simply my interest in botany.
In his seminal book, Mythologies, Barthes illustrates this progression from linguistic sign to myth using the example of a magazine cover image of a young man of African descent in a French military uniform, saluting with eyes uplifted. Simple enough. On the level of myth, though, much more is intended, namely:
that France is a great Empire, that all her sons, without any color discrimination, faithfully serve under her flag, and that there is no better answer to the detractors of an alleged colonialism than the zeal shown by this [young man] in serving his so-called oppressors.
How has this transition from sign to myth been accomplished? It is not simply a matter of adding meaning, according to Barthes—something must be taken away. In the case of the image of the youth, much of the specific detail regarding the young man is drained away: his name, his upbringing, his education. His goals, commitments, and life’s accomplishments—these are forgotten so that he might serve as the carrier for new mythological content. For Barthes, then, the mythical concept is not particularly trustworthy; it is “formless, unstable, nebulous.”
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Posted by: madhypnotist on Sep 17, 2009 2:02 AM
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» The author of this has an excellent point about mythbuilding....
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» Was there a poster before you? If so, where are his comments? Would you reiterate them for us?
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» RE: Was there a poster before you? If so, where are his comments? Would you reiterate them for us?
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» Oh, ok, thanks.
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Posted by: grindermonkey on Sep 17, 2009 3:15 AM
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» RE: Since 911 fairy tales and mythology have been America's only products.
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Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Sep 17, 2009 3:28 AM
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Can you imagine the average Amerikkkan in their state of education understanding this article, let alone taking the time to read it?
In fact, I guarantee this will be one of the least commented on articles on Alternet as eyes glaze over less than half way through it, even though it hits at the heart of where we are in this country and the health care “debate.”
Unless the Democraps get some rocks they are going to lose this battle, as they do not know how to fight fire with fire.
This is the Repukian plan, to obfuscate the “discussion” with 1107 pages of gobbly gook, that should only take 3-4 pages IF we would go to the ONLY health care plan worth considering-single payer. And single payer is dead by all accounts, and you can just imagine what you will get once they add another 1000 pages to the bill.
A brand-new Gallup poll tied to Darwin's birthday finds that just 39% of Americans believe in evolution.
As expected, Gallup notes, education plays a big role here: 74% of those with post-graduate degrees believe in evolution. That's compared with only 21% of high school grads (or those with less education) who believe in the theory.
Ditto religion: 55% who don't attend church believe in evolution, versus 24% of weekly CHURCHGOERS who believe in it.
When you have this kind of imbedded mythology in this country, you can feed them anything.
Religion has taught them to leave their brain at the door. Take for example the story of Noah.
Noah’s Ark is said in the bible to be 300x40x50 cubits, that is 4 stories tall and half the size of the Titanic! The length of a soccer field! Noah was 600 years old when God told him to build the ark! Noah was told to take animals with common ancestry: that would be 700 mammals, 600 birds, and 6300 reptiles! In one year the ark would generate 400 tons of manure! Not to mention the amount of food needed and the time it would take to feed them, by a 600 year old man!!
Until this brand of mythology and superstition (religion) is wiped from this earth, it is not surprising that people will believe in “death panels” or any thing else.
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» Noah..
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» RE: While this article makes many valid points…
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» RE: While this article makes many valid points…& taking the Bible literally
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» RE: Dear LindaInAus...
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Posted by: InsertNameHere on Sep 17, 2009 3:46 AM
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They do however exist in the USA, they're called Insurance Companies.
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» RE: No Death Panels In Socialist Canada
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» Ditto Australia
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» RE: It sucks here in U.S.A
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» RE: It sucks here in U.S.A
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Posted by: MeyravLevine on Sep 17, 2009 5:22 AM
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There is a huge segment of population that still buys into the American Myth; and this is not just limited to so-called Republican base. This kind of mentality extends to graduates of Ivy Leagues (especially the neo-liberal hacks over at Harvard & Yale).
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» Quite true.
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» If they are over at Harvard and Yale then they are also sociopaths.
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Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on Sep 17, 2009 6:01 AM
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I have also had extensive experience with other government "programs" - like IRS, the Veterans Administration, the Department of the Army, the Social Security Administration, and more. I recognize law written like this one, in other words.
And anyone who doesn't think this proposed law provided for death panels hasn't read it, has never faced a federal czardom, or lives in Never-Neverland.
He's never done surgery on himself (as I did a few weeks ago), done his own dentistry, or treated his own illnesses. He's never been driven to the wilderness and life off the land on account of an IRS bureaucrat who destroyed his business, family, and life by assuring that he would never again be gainfully employed.
People who write like this author live in a world made only of rhetoric and rhetorical reality, able to equivocate words because they know nothing else. I won't read this because I read the proposed law he's talking - and will never have to live with - about
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» RE: I'm not going to read this . . .
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» RE: I'm not going to read this . . .
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» You can't just read section 425 by itself, you have to read the associated sections....
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» If you don't read it...
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» Can anyone see how this fighting would end with single payer? No so called death panels...etc...no
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» RE: I'm not going to read this . . .
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» You know, making fun doesn't help. I just read what he has lost and I can understand....
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» RE: You know, making fun doesn't help. I just read what he has lost and I can understand....
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Posted by: SteveA on Sep 17, 2009 7:22 AM
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MeyravLevine has revealed that Noam Chomsky declared the freest country in the world ( in many peoples' opinions) is no longer a free society.
Not wanting to burst anyone’s bubble, but there is a reason health insurance is sold state – by – state. Such things as insurance are a state & local function only. Nowhere in the Constitution is there any room for federal gov’t involvement in health insurance or even the forms of insurance – like flood insurance - that somehow became federal items. I can see the gov’t helping states coordinate coverage levels between states and work out ways for people to be assured of being able to buy coverage, but this - and all health issues - are state and local concerns.
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» Not in the Constitution...
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» RE: You can learn a lot here--you haven't!
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» Hey, when I was growing up (and it wasn't 200 years ago) everyone got basic coverage...
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» RE: You can learn a lot here
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» RE: You can learn a lot here
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» RE: Sorry SteveA...
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Posted by: rltmlt on Sep 17, 2009 7:22 AM
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The good doctor is pushing a long standing academic theory, Comparative Effectiveness Statistical Research, which has gained cult status due to its introduction into the current healthcare debate. Just a fancy term for yet another beam counter tool that will be used to ration healthcare to save money, money that the current government could use to escalate new wars or bail out more private Wall Street Bankers.
If we look back in history and not that far, we see a similar plan enacted in Germany in 1939, Hitler’s T4 organization that was created to conserve existing financial resources that would go to the war effort. It was originally soft peddled to get it by the population but soon adopted targeted discriminatory policies against those in Germany who were seen as a financial drain on society such as the elderly and the mentally challenged. These people were seen by the Nazis as "Useless Eaters". Later the policy was expanded to ethnic groups that Hitler saw as sub human and expendable. We all know what eventually happened to the Jews as a result.
Are we really so much in denial that we think it couldn't happen here? I suggest you read what happened to Black Americans in the 1930's South who were forced to have medical procedures that ended their child bearing capability!
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» "Could happen."
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» RE: You can't reason with these morons
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» what you just described is exactly what this bill will do.
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» Man, you have a lot of toxic anger. I don't think the rationing will allow treatment for that one.
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» RE: "Could happen."
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» Don't come crying...
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» Arguing with you is like arguing with a piece of furniture
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Posted by: madmac10 on Sep 17, 2009 7:34 AM
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Not since Milton has any individual been capable of building a myth. Especially in our culture, institutions--and now primarily corporate entities--create myths and drive them into our culture. Only they have the power to drive this process. To me, this is the most compelling evidence I've seen that corporations are NOT citizens and should NOT be permitted rights under the Constitution.
Too late? I dunno... maybe. We might need to resort to another corporation or institution that will grow a mythology to eradicate corporate plutocracy, and then, a la Cincinatus, give all power back to the people.
I wonder.
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Posted by: mycelium_obscurum on Sep 17, 2009 7:37 AM
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My brother suffers from fragile x syndrome, a genetic disorder for which there is no cure that makes him both autistic and mentally retarded. A few years ago, in order to continue to receive his social security benefits, my mother was forced to take him to several doctors for testing in order to "prove" that he had not been cured. This kind of idiocy will only be magnified by Obama's plans.
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Posted by: AdamSelene40 on Sep 17, 2009 7:39 AM
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That's not a supporter, that's an apologist. And if he believes his own propaganda, he's a fool.
I guess the difference between ME and a teabagger is that I'm paying attention to what "My Side" is saying. As a result I'm under no illusion that the White House is even interested in providing anyone health care as such. It's concerned with The Economy, The Budget and The Long Term Competitiveness of American Business in a Global Economy -- and, of course, Achieving BiPartisan(tm)Consensus.
As of this moment the "compromise" seems to be Universal Mandate (everyone buys insurance or pays a fine) ... NO public option ... no government oversight of premiums, costs OR profits.
It's free gift to the insurance industry ... and Our Guy seems to be supporting it.
Maybe Nader WOULDN'T have been nearly as bad as I thought he would have been.
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Posted by: popeurbanxxiii on Sep 17, 2009 7:38 AM
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Most people want to get their information in pre-digested little nuggets that are easy to swallow and easy on the system. They would rather get it from Tom Brokaw or Glenn Beck, The Nation, or the National Review, as a "for instance".
"Tell me what I should believe" is what we are asking our information sources. And they respond with the type of bias that resonates with our own opinions and biases. We seek out that which validates our own way of thinking and feel vindicated when it does so.
This dynamic, I believe (I am no social scientist), is what lies behind this mythologization the article describes.
If a public figure - be that religious, political, or pop culture icon - weighs in on a matter of policy or politics, it is seen as lending gravitas. "Thank you! I knew that had to be it!" we seem to collectively say and buy into the rhetoric.
Complexity seems to hurt most people's brains. "Tree good! Fire bad!", as the sage Buffy the Vampire Slayer once said.
Being outside the circle of power, and feeling confused and impotent to do anything about it makes people vulnerable. And demagogery fills that void quite nicely. The masses already feel a vague unease and anger, and the demagogues come along and focus that anger and give it an object to focus on - "Death Panels", "Socialism", "Fascism", -ism-ism ad nauseum.
The anger is real - and palpable. But it is also vaguely irrational. Differences of opinion generates unease. Certainty is prefered. (How many friends and relatives do you know who always have to be right?) Best listen to those who tell me what I already believe. And this belief is quite frequently unconsciously taken in that same vein as religious belief is. Hence the power of the "myth".
Pax...
Pope Urban XXIII
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 17, 2009 7:43 AM
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"Free" was a Rejection of exclusivity to market access by only the Noble and their Merchant class who acted as middlemen to caged consumers and forced labor.
Deregulated markets for only these upper echelons was the heart of the Revolutionary War. They not only barred others from entering the market- they controlled all means of production and distribution- sound Fucking familiar?
These Teabaggers are nothing more than the Red coated pawns of the Family Crests we now call Logo's. They have bought the revised definition of "free market" by the Corp's 'ministry of truth'.
"Free" never meant Unregulated, it meant Accessiblity to each and every person who is represented by the US Constitution.
Heads Up idiots if you had to define socialism in three words, it would be "We the People", not the Crown, or the Dictator or the Logos!
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» RE: "Free Market"- a Prime Example--indeed
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» RE: "Free Market"- a Prime Example ... Excellent Post ... Excellent !
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Posted by: willymack on Sep 17, 2009 9:54 AM
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Captains of industry and commerce tell them, politicians and preachers tell them , used car salespeople tell them, and we tell them to one another, especially when we're ignorant of the FACTS.
This is mute testimony to underfunded and unfunded educational programs such as the "no child left behind" scam.
The result is ignoramuses by the millions, incapable of original thought or critical analysis of the dirty lies being spewed by banksters, pharma and insurance company racketeere, and their lackeys in government.
Let's face it folks; the Money Men have us right where they want us, over a barrel.
What we have here is corruption and greed writ large, and with no end in sight.
Don't think for a minute that things can't get any worse, because they WILL, unless measures are taken to bring the Money Men up short.
Lord Admiral Nelson was known for saying "Go right at 'em".
Well, that's exactly what needs to be done, in the form of legal action against crooks who've had it their way far too long, and will bleed us dry unless they're STOPPED.
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» RE: Myths my ass
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Posted by: Canucklehead on Sep 17, 2009 10:34 AM
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The billionaires and they're supporters in the Republican party are protecting what they believe is their right to reap profits at the cost to the many, regardless of the damage done to American society. They have no interest in protecting individual rights or keeping government from controlling America's health care system. They only care about making more and more money even if it means millions of Americans losing everything in the event of a health crisis.
They cloak it all in the flag and talk of individual's rights but they just want their money and don't care one whit about the people. And they will say absolutely anything to frighten the vulnerable and gullible in the population into supporting them.
I've lived all my life with government health care and I currently pay $54 a month. A couple of years ago when my teenage daughter was sick we took her into emergency at 1:00 am. The Dr. on-call was on the ball and recognized something was off. They did blood tests, which lead to X-rays and CAT scans and my daughter being hospitalized for over a week while they ran more tests to figure out what was happening. My total out-of-pocket costs for this adventure? Zero. $0.00. Nada.
This same care is available to everyone in the province for the same, or less, cost. (Reduced monthly cost if you earn under a certain limit)
I have never had anyone tell me which doctor I could or couldn't go to. I have never been, or even heard of, anyone being refused treatment. No one has ever been refused treatment because they are old and someone younger needs it. These are some of the lies the insurance billionaires would like you to believe so that nothing changes and they can continue scalping the population. They are lies.
There are failings to our system, without a doubt, but to anyone who is arguing against government supported health care I would suggest you read my words and consider very closely how much you pay now and what would happen if your child, or your parent, or your spouse, or even you got seriously ill.
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Posted by: leonardfeingold on Sep 17, 2009 1:03 PM
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So, it is not a question of death panels, but it is a question of socialized medecine leading to inferior care for serious conditions which in effect can be a sentence of death.
But progressives like the communist sympatherizers of the past are so wedded to cliches--egs single payer--that facts don't matter; exactly how progressives and liberals in the past glorified the communist USSR and preseently glorify the murderer Che and Castro with their gulags.
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» RE: Don't know about Sweden, but FRIENDS FROM UK AND CANADA TELL ME THIS ISN'T TRUE!!
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» RE: DoES ANYONE NOT RECOGNIZE THAT THE U S HAS GREAT HEALTH CARE? - FOR THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD IT!?!?!
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» RE: DoES ANYONE NOT RECOGNIZE THAT THE U S HAS GREAT HEALTH CARE? - FOR THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD IT!?!?!
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» Death Panels are REAL: every private Insurance co has 'em
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Posted by: MotherLodeBeth on Sep 17, 2009 1:32 PM
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» RE: They are called Ethics panels
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Posted by: DOUGLASFIELD on Sep 17, 2009 6:50 PM
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***THERE ARE CURRENTLY AN ESTIMASTED 45 MILLION MEN WOMAN AND CHILDREN WITHOUT HEALTH~CARE IN THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD????
SILENT AMERICAN RELIGIOUS LEADERS WHO ALL HAVE HEALTH~CARE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IS MUCH MORE FRIGHTENING THEN THE POSSIBLE DENIAL OF A FUTURE HEALTH~CARE PLAN FOR ALL...
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Posted by: lukewatson on Oct 2, 2009 12:16 PM
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"Free" never meant Unregulated, it meant Accessiblity to each and every person who is represented by the US Constitution.
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