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How We Became a Society of Gluttonous Junk Food Addicts
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Every chef is said to have a secret junk food craving. For Thomas Keller, chef-owner of Per Se and The French Laundry, two of the most acclaimed restaurants in the country, it's Krispy Kreme Donuts and In-N-Out cheeseburgers. For David Bouley, New York's reigning chef in the '90s, it's "high-quality potato chips."
"Father of American cuisine" James Beard "loved McDonald's fries," while Paul Bocuse, an originator of nouvelle cuisine, once declared McDonald's "are the best French fries I have ever eaten." Masaharu Morimoto is partial to "Philly cheese steaks," and Jean-Georges Vongerichten confesses a weakness for Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich. Other accomplished but less-famous chefs admit to craving everything from Peanut M&Ms, Pringles and Combos to Kettle Chips and Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Having attended culinary school and cooked professionally, I can wax rhapsodic about epicurean delights such as squab, Beluga caviar, black truffles, porcini mushrooms, Iberico Ham, langoustines, and acres of exceptional vegetables and fruits. But I also have an unabashed junk food craving: Nacho Cheese Doritos. Sure, there are plenty of other junk foods I enjoy, whether it's Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream or Entenmann's baked goods, but Doritos are the one thing I desire and seek out regularly. (Not that I ever have to look that hard; I've encountered them everywhere from rural villages in Guatemala to tiny towns in the Canadian Arctic.)
For years I wondered why I craved Doritos. I knew the Nacho Cheese powder, which coats your fingers in day-glo orange deliciousness, was one component, as were the fatty, salty chips that crackle and melt into a pleasing mass as you crunch them. I figured there was a dollop of nostalgia in the mix, but an ingredient was still missing in my understanding. Then I read a spate of articles about "umami," designated the fifth taste, along with sweet, sour, salty, and bitter, means "deliciousness" in Japanese and is described as "a meaty, savory, satisfying taste."
I knew some foods -- parmesan cheese, seaweed, shellfish, tomatoes, mushrooms and meats -- were high in umami-rich compounds such as glutamate, inosinate and guanylate. (Most people know umami from the much-maligned MSG, or mono sodium glutamate.) And I knew combining various sources of umami -- such as the bonito-flake and kombu-seaweed broth known as dashi, the foundational stock of Japanese cuisine -- magnified the effect and delivered a uniquely satisfying wallop of flavor.
What I didn't know was that "Nacho-cheese-flavor Doritos, which contain five separate forms of glutamate, may be even richer in umami than the finest kombu dashi (kelp stock) in Japan," according to a New York Times article from last year.
Mystery solved. Now I knew that whenever the Doritos bug bit me, I was jonesing for umami. I had to admit it: I am a junk food junkie and Frito-Lay is my pusher-man.
I am hardly alone. Frito-Lay is the snack-food peddler to the world, with over $43 billion in revenue in 2008. The 43-year-old cheesy chip is a "category killer," dominating the tortilla chip market with a 32 percent share in 2006, and number two in the entire U.S. "sweet and savory snacks category," just behind Lay's potato chips.
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Posted by: Seppuku on Aug 5, 2009 12:22 AM
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Do you want big brother to tell you what you can and cannot eat? I’ll be more than happy to volunteer a few hours a week to stand outside of a fast food restaurant with a caliper and turn away balls of goo, include children. “Sorry buddy. You’re too round to have a Happy Meal." After all, “It takes a Village” right?
This is what you are eating.
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» Apply for the job.
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» But, come on..........the corporations are just meeting a demand.
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Posted by: ProfBob on Aug 5, 2009 12:42 AM
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And junk food tastes so good!
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Aug 5, 2009 1:38 AM
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Junk is not necessarily a corporate thing, as this article implies. Diner food, pizza, cheese steaks, mega-burgers, BBQ, etc. can be a mom-and-pop thing, and have been so throughout history. In fact, lately I've been looking for a better way to find those great hole-in-the-wall local cult places as an alternative to corporate junk. I found a couple of web sites, but nothing very helpful.
The recipe is very simple: grease, starch, spice, salt, sugar, etc. You don't need fancy R&D or marketing departments to figure that one out; just a fat relative with a love for good cookin'.
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Posted by: ladyoracle on Aug 5, 2009 1:56 AM
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Posted by: Suzon on Aug 5, 2009 1:59 AM
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Junk food is a form of self-medication whether our stress comes from unemployment, long and unsocial hours of work, money and health worries or personal problems.
The overprivileged corporation is the enemy of the people. The answer lies not in political parties or individual leaders but in waking up everyone to the fact that we are all in the same boat and are defiling our planet while we are demeaning ourselves.
Human happiness should be our mutual goal as happy people have no need to dominate or control others.
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Posted by: Don Quixot on Aug 5, 2009 2:30 AM
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Posted by: pfgetty on Aug 5, 2009 2:48 AM
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Our taste buds and brain are wired to desire and search out foods that have these elements, because in the wild the food items that have these things also have what we need to nourish our bodies.
But plants that have sweet and starchy tastes have lots of other nourishments and are not very compact with calories, and meats with the salty taste and fat are hard to get and usually pretty tiny and more protein and less fat.
So as we go after these foods laden with what our brain and tongue wants, we don't get the proper balance, and over decades we suffer nutritionally and we damage the organs that try to deal with the imbalance...........pancreas, liver, blood vessels, adipose tissue, immune systems, hormones, etc.
Fast foods have evolved to have just exactly the mixes that satisfy our desires, desires that were once so important to our survival and helped us search out the plants and animal foods that sustained us the best.
All we have left to protect us now is knowledge and willpower, a lifetime of it, and it is hard to be good all the time.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Aug 5, 2009 3:02 AM
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Overweight people are a major drain on our dysfunctional health-care system. Those of us who aren't obese are paying the tab.
It's the same with smokers, gun freaks, and other addicts. They don't care how much the rest of us have to pay (or who gets killed)--just so long as they can have their fun.
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» Paying for those who make bad choices
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» Way to miss the big picture, wag
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» look at cancer "treatments"
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Posted by: rtb61 on Aug 5, 2009 3:42 AM
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Posted by: GatoPreto on Aug 5, 2009 3:52 AM
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Try it, it's a real eye-opener.
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Posted by: Hans B on Aug 5, 2009 4:20 AM
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Also I see no real evidence in this article that points to addiction-inducing products. Satisfying the senses is something other than addiction - as a former smoker who now watches his weight, I know the difference. Staying away from Doritos or any other fast food is easy. My kids get chips only on birthdays, coca cola never, and they love apples and garden-grown tomatoes, and I'm in great shape too with little to no effort.
"Addiction" is no excuse for gluttony. If there is an excuse, it's the general sickness of our society which may lead people to treat their bodies the way they see everything else being treated, as disposable, abusable objects.
PS The part about umamis was really interesting. But taste enhancers aren't necessarily bad. What if umamis were used to promote organic food (the way Hindus use asafoetida in their vegetarian cooking)? Would we then speak of nefarious "addiction"?
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Posted by: pfgetty on Aug 5, 2009 4:41 AM
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Same with veggies.
Corn and tomatoes were hardly edible before man manipulated them to make them tastier.
Meats are far more fatty than any wild meats.
Grains, not even a natural food for us, have been changed into something that never existed, and then processed into breads and flours and many products, none of which is natural for us.
Even fish now, once a wild food, is grown and altered to make them cheaper and just the size and type that make our mouths water.
The fast food industry is just doing more of what man has been doing for about 11,000 years: manipulating his food to bring out the flavors and textures he likes, even as the foods then become less healthy for us.
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» Good point. Our food is full of hazards.
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Posted by: Gabba_Gabba_Hey on Aug 5, 2009 4:58 AM
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Speak for yourself, Queen Victoria. As so often happens with AlterNet editors, an article with an interesting premise and conclusions has a headline that's somewhat misleading.
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Posted by: thornwolf on Aug 5, 2009 4:58 AM
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Posted by: colinsyme on Aug 5, 2009 4:58 AM
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What do we do now that all the information is out there? well at this stage, l'm sorry to say IS personal responsibility. Parents who are overweight are far more likely to have overweight kids and it is this group who are are most at risk, making this issue a political one is the worst thing we can do as people have different views regarding politics, lines will be drawn and opinions will be polarised,---"its unpatriotic to pass a KFC and shop at a local farmers co-op that sells fresh fruit& vegetables"
Bi-partisan community leaders must become the army that tackles obesity, they are the only ones who will be able to advise and help with this, if folk feel that they are being dictated to by either Liberals or Conservatives its perfectly natural they will rebel.
In the UK some parents influenced by TV chefs have embraced healthy school dinners in place of burgers and chips,---unfortunately most kids don't seem to like healthy options and prefer to walk into towns and spend their lunch money on junk, so persuading them to change is looking like a long battle ahead.
Parents must be educated into thinking that they are doing this as a patriotic duty towards future generations
and that can only be done if all the political parties speak with one voice. After-all eating the way our grand-parents did is no big deal!
There are many ways to achieve this,high sales-tax on foods with a high fat ratio or by giving tax-breaks to those who sell fresh fruit/vegetables is one way, another is Government information on what is "healthy" because many people believe that all burgers ARE
healthy when in fact they are not.
This must not become a war between meat eaters and vegetarians as both prepared in the right way are healthy, both cooked the wrong way with added fats and monosodium glutamate are bad. l have met vegetarians who smugly believe that vege-burgers are healthy but when you look closly at the label you will see the fat content is off the scale,--they would be better off eating a lean meat burger.
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Posted by: drosera on Aug 5, 2009 5:11 AM
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People love junk food because they have not experienced truly delicious food--a good pistou, ratatouille, a vegetarian chili. They were brought up on junk and that early experience shapes their choices now. It won't be easy to undo the effects of one or two generations of learning the wrong things.
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Posted by: brer on Aug 5, 2009 5:16 AM
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We could get the junk out of the classrooms....out of the schools (vending machines)...out of Brownie meetings and sports practice.
It's everywhere.
I'm a substitute teacher, and I see what happens in the schools. I think sometimes these little kindergarteners eat half their weight in sugar in a day in class. There's snack time with some junky "health bar" which is full of sugar. Then it's lunch time where the parents have packed the lunch with "drink" (sugar) and more bars (sugar) and yogurt (sugar) and more. One time I saw a kid with a lovely homemade cookie as large as his head. That was the hit of the classroom.
Then there's the big jar of candy at the front of the class which children can choose from as a reward. Then it's somebody's birthday (nearly ever other day it seems) and the huge cupcakes come out (sugar) along with a drink (sugar).
And one of five days it seems there is a holiday or 100 day or "super friday" or something where junk food reigns again. The "roommothers" arrive with their syrupy drinks (sugar) and their cookies and the bags of candy.
One time the PTA created a large and elaborate spook alley. The kids loved it. It was perfect--scary but safe, amazingly great. Then at the end, each child was handed a lunch bag FULL TO THE BRIM with CANDY!!! They would have loved the spook alley without the candy at the end, but we are so used to having candy at every event, the sponsors couldn't conceive of having it without the surprise at the end.
Then the kids go to their after school activities where there is inevitably some sort of sugary product given at the end. And, then they go out to McDonalds with their parents for supper where, as we know, they are eating corn syrup, corn syrup, corn syrup.
SOMETHING HAS TO STOP THIS!!!
Some enlightened person could say, "Could we have oranges at the end of practice instead of orange drink?"
or...
"Principal, could you enforce a policy of no candy in the school."
or
"Parents, please send in carrot sticks for a snack, NOT graham crackers or pretzels or "health" bars.
or....
"Let's learn about nutrition in the Cub Scout meeting and then everyone bring a NUTRITIOUS snack in their turn."
or
"NO more soft drink machines in the schools."
also...
MOre exercise in school. MOre schools within walking distance. More playing on the playground...
There's a LOT we could do if we wanted to.
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Posted by: Oemissions on Aug 5, 2009 5:17 AM
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people fillup with gas and silly snacks.
our grandparents and great grandpaents never snacked.
the british had a teatime but it wasn't chips and pop and or bags of this and that.
fast cars... fast food and...mindless munching.
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Posted by: ellie on Aug 5, 2009 5:33 AM
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few of the fast food joints post carb counts that include all sugars... stay out of restaurants that can't tell me what the carb count is too... hey, have to calculate how much injected insulin needed and fats and salt can skew my guesses and land me in the in the ER fast...
love cheese nips but the info on the box was wrong and spent 3 days in the ICU almost dying from their bad nutrition info a few years back... shot letters off to the manufacturer and a few days ago, looked, and they still have the same bad info on the box!!!
if you had to look at food like I do, you'd realize every food item has a price and for me, it comes in a little vial that lasts about a week for $140.00 each...
back to coffee... plain, whole bean fair traded coffee from a non-profit organization in New England...
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 5, 2009 5:56 AM
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Other folks don't have it so nice.
Small world mind?
P.S. Of course you can commit suicide (eventually) by burger. Same with cigs, alcohol, hard drugs, and oh-so-lethal dihydrogen monooxide, if it is ingested in sufficient quantities.
I'm sure that most CAN use their higher brain--the one that exercises restraint when a primitive urge hits you, else there'd be pandemonium at large, not just in your head, over your neighbor's plate. Tell your lizard brain no, for a change?
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Posted by: When In Doubt on Aug 5, 2009 6:08 AM
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No wonder they are against a single payer system.
Never forget the Politicians who are whores for all of the above
Bon Appetit
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Posted by: ETSpoon on Aug 5, 2009 6:46 AM
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I mean, really now, who do you think hires all those psych and sociology majors who graduate from the nation's state collages and universities every year? State governments? County governments? I know for a fact that marketing research firms hire a good many psychologists and sociologists.
Why do I think that? The best friend of a fellow I used to work with, upon receiving his master's degree in psychology from the local university, was immediately hired to supervise operations at the local office of a major marketing research company. Hell, I guinea pigged for him, got a case of beer one time and 35 bucks another.
You soon realize that the corporate suits paying for the "research" view the rest of "us" merely as pigeons in a Skinner box. Why do you think these s.o.b.s refer to we mere mortals as consumers rather than customers or patrons or clients? To me the implication is clear: "Consumers" are passive, those other critters may cause trouble. Therefore through the canny use of modern psychological and sociological techniques, brainwashing in other words, convince "customers," they are in fact "consumers" and soon they will eat, buy and love any shit that is handed to them.
For those of you reading this who yet eat at McDonald's, Burger King or Hardees the brainwashing has worked. Hasn't it?
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 5, 2009 6:55 AM
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I believe that far too many Americans not only don't cook, the problem is they no longer know how to season (for flavor) their foods. This in turn leads to taste buds, not being satisfied. This non satisfaction of taste buds is what has people "craving" that snack of choice! Add to this the empty quality in our lives, and instead of realizing what it really is - we tend to eat to satisfy that "need".
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Posted by: ETSpoon on Aug 5, 2009 7:09 AM
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Quite often the women in my circle of friends find themselves either unemployed, underemployed and working two minimum-wage jobs to make ends meet. Often a fast-food meal is all these women can afford or have time to scarf down between one low wage job and the other.
I can't condemn these ladies too much, knowing their economic circumstances, for wolfing down a McDonald's fish fillet sandwich now and then.
I do try to cook a substancial meal for them from time to time.
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Posted by: warrior woman on Aug 5, 2009 8:19 AM
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As a person who has 4 of 5 family members with serious health issues that are directly related to MSG, I find it criminal that the FDA poses such bull sh-t that it is safe.
It has been found by the FDA to be a “relatively safe” additive, however, there aren’t guidelines on what’s a “safe” quantity. Everyone’s tolerance level is different. They acknowledge that there may be sensitivities to the product, however, it’s not acknowledged as an allergen and they hedge further warnings because the body can produce glutamates naturally. In reviewing the National Library of Medicine and National Institutes of Health website, searching on MSG and obese, 119 studies appear. Certain obesity studies used mice injected with MSG because it caused them to become obese. Obesity doesn’t occur naturally in mice.
Studies suggest links to asthma, childhood obesity, behavior issues, brain deterioration (Alzheimer’s), cardiac, digestive, eye, neurological, skin, urological, and a host of other problems. When many of the studies were published, they were ignored or negated by manufacturers and their “friendly” scientists.
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» RE: MSG is NOT safe
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» It's part of what makes fast food so hazardous
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Posted by: advancedatheist on Aug 5, 2009 8:26 AM
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Mixing up this lifestyle snobbery with progressive politics has probably helped to turn the working class away from voting for some sensible policies in the U.S. You guys might get farther by respecting people's choices about private matters, instead of treating the choosers like they come from Opposite Land.
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Posted by: woody, tokin' librul on Aug 5, 2009 8:55 AM
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Humans are biologically programmed to crave sweet, salt, and fat.
That's because, in our natural scavenger state-of-nature, those substances are extremely rare.
But we require them, too.
So, when presented the opportunity, we gorge.
And 'kapitalismus,' which only prospers in relation to the desires it can promote, profits handsomely...
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Posted by: AJR Journal on Aug 5, 2009 9:08 AM
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There is nothing she can do to get on your good side.
She never thinks of you, yet you can't stop thinking about her.
Sarah Palin is winning!
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Posted by: mooresart on Aug 5, 2009 9:49 AM
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Posted by: topview on Aug 5, 2009 9:47 AM
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Two weeks after I got my first SS check I was diagnosed with colon cancer.
That was 13 years ago. I ate from all those junk food establishments, especially KFC. It was fast and easy to wolf it down and on the road again.
I have since changed my diet and habits. I only eat organic and never any processed foods. I have read almost every label on the Food Industries packaged foods, and you cannot find any packaged foods that don't contain some sort of chemical additive that is harmful to our bodies.
Many of these chemical additives in the food source creates harmful hormones that make changes in our metabolism and are detrimental to our cellular system, that create early cell death and mutant changes.
It is very hard to return to nature for your food source, but that is what I try to do when I feed my body now.
Nature provided us with everything we need to survive but it is almost impossible to find a perfect natural substance on earth now, as the environment has been change with man made pollutions and chemicals that change even what nature has provided us for optimal health.
The Pharmaceutical and food industries are to powerful to ever make the changes we need to restore the health of the population, as they would lose to much in that process.
You just have to educate the people so they understand what they eat is how they will exist, healthy or just plain sick and obese and a drain on their life.
The Factory Farm are the largest pollutants of this planet with all the pesticides, herbicides and chemical fertilizers, that are used to produce all the food grown on the soils.
Those pollutants eventually wash into the streams and rivers and end up in the oceans, they then are creating huge dead zones that kill everything in their path. Eventually they will kill off the Marine phytoplankton, that is the base of the food change. When that happens, so goes the food for survival and then, so goes the inhabitants of earth.
This is what will happen if there is not change to restore the planet as nature intended. You can't screw with Mother Nature, She will have revenge. Man must stop destroying this place we live in, for profit, as there is no where else we can go.Education is the answer to making changes. Read labels and stop buying the food that is killing the inhabitants of planet earth.
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Posted by: ava1984 on Aug 5, 2009 9:59 AM
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Recently, my 40 year old daughter told me that when she visited the homes of school friends, she was in awe of the snacks; chips, cokes, cookies!
She marveled at the goodies available in those homes; she told them: 'We don't have any of this stuff!' Poor little deprived girl; cursed with good health, shining hair, great smile and strong bones. Sigh...
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Posted by: nltrihey on Aug 5, 2009 12:03 PM
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But more than smugness, the feeling I have is sadness and despair that we have come to this—that children are suffering from obesity and associated ills, like diabetes and hypertension, while big corporations pile up the profits from this. And I really don’t think it’s true that “[we] know this food is killing us slowly with diabetes, heart disease and cancer.” Do five-year-olds know that? Do their parents really believe it? I don’t think these parents would let their children smoke cigarettes!
This, along with the related enormous issue of American health (or rather, “sickness”), is an overwhelming problem. The answer to both seems so simple and yet so impossible to achieve, given our entrenched penchant for eating stuff that is so far from meeting our bodies’ nutritional needs. Michael Pollan summed it up: Eat real food, mostly plants. I don’t think 90% of us know what that means!
Michael Pollan wrote a letter to President Obama about health care reform. I read it and thought it so on the mark. If every citizen read it and implemented his recommendations, the positive impact on our health would be stupendous. But the negative economic impact on the medical/pharmaceutical industry and manufactured/junk food industry would also be stupendous! It’s fun to imagine, but it won’t happen!
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Posted by: darkgrrrl on Aug 5, 2009 12:07 PM
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Home cooking requires time and planning. One must shop for the required ingredients, cook the meal, and clean up. The payoff is that you eat better meals with healthier ingredients. It's a matter of priorities.
American society has an ever-increasing sense of entitlement. Entitlement to have what I want, when I want it, with as little cost as possible. Cost involves time as well as money. When weighing the decision to spend 30-60 minutes cooking dinner at home vs. going through a drive-thru, a person performs a personal cost-benefit analysis. Is a healthier, home-cooked meal worth the time investment required? Or would I rather get take-out so I can spend that time on a pleasure activity like TV or video games? Kids, multiple jobs, long commutes, etc. all take time and make the home cooking investment less appealing.
Some people don't like to cook, don't know how to cook, etc. Feeling uncomfortable with a task can makes the task not enjoyable, at first. But if you can read a recipe, you can cook. Get a copy of The Best 30-Minute Recipe by Cook's Illustrated, or a similar cookbook aimed at weeknight dinners. Choose recipes. Make a shopping list and make one weekly trip to the grocery store - buying ingredients with a plan means you will spend less and have less waste. Cook a meal each night. Pack the leftovers for lunch.
Cooking at home with whole ingredients can teach you new skills, expand your dining horizons, and improve your diet. It is an investment of some time each day. Until fast food lovers see the value of that investment, they will keep getting take-out.
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Posted by: PillarKY on Aug 5, 2009 12:18 PM
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Gupta points out that the corn "farmer" gets only a slice of a penny for every dollar spent on a bag of fritos. This is true, but even that isn't getting to the severity of the decline of farmers' slice of the food dollar.
When a corn farmer gets a penny, 80-90% of that money is going straight to the real profiteers in this food system: the suppliers of seed, equipment, chemicals, and fuel.
Of course, the actual price that corn farmers get from buyers who make things like fritos is nowhere near profitable. If it were truly a "free market", no one would grow corn, or soybeans, or any other commodity that is traded globally. The subsidy system hides the true costs, and is basically a massive system of shifting money from the government, thru farmers, to the companies that supply the agro-insustrial complex, or whatever you want to call it.
On the other side of the racket, frito's-makers, corn syrup dealers, and people feeding corn in animal factories get a super cheap product, since our subsidy system is really fitting the bill.
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Posted by: monkeyrocketsurgeon on Aug 5, 2009 12:47 PM
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The idea that some demonic force is at work through the ever dreaded "they" to subjugate the masses and lead us to hell... is a regressive fallacy and needs to be left for the right wing.
In a market driven economy, those that provide a product or service aren't evil if; that product or service doesn't produce the results you consider good, or you deem evil.
"They" are people with jobs that provide what those in america want. It's NOT the other way 'round.
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Posted by: Pirate1 on Aug 5, 2009 1:18 PM
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As the great Frank Zappa sang in "Brown Shoes Don't make It" "Do ya love it? Do ya hate it? There it is, the way you made it... WOOOOWWwww!!!
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Posted by: maxsmart on Aug 5, 2009 2:42 PM
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All of these add-on costs of processing and sensationalizing are being added on to our cost of living and it is becoming a weight on our wallets so we slowly are sinking all the while we are wallowing in mass produced magic that casts a spell over us. The more we work to keep up the less time we have for anything but fast food.
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Posted by: dayahka on Aug 5, 2009 3:21 PM
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If you blame only the pusher, then it's the other guy's fault--not your own, our own. And the way to correct the other guy's problem is always more government regulation, for asking us to correct our own behavior is just asking too much, eh?
Sure the food business is at fault, sure. But so are we. Like you, I admit to craving some junk food every now and then--and about once a year I give in to temptation. But the rest of the time, I cook my own fresh foods, add my own herbs and spices, and eat well. It can be done by anyone. If people stopped buying junk, the junk dealers would go out of business--or develop better foods.
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Posted by: Tony D on Aug 5, 2009 3:34 PM
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Posted by: Gravitas on Aug 5, 2009 3:37 PM
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Not that I am against taking out MSG, high frutocse corn syrup and the rest of the garbage out of processed food. But the title of this long winded article still implies the blame is with the person and not the food manufacturer. And I didn't want to wade through all four pages. How many others just read the headlines? Tell people what MSG does to them in 200 words or less, fight additives one at a time to make things better. Oh wait! That benefits everyone. Sorry, isn't the real agenda to benefit the rich under the ruse it is for our own good?
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Posted by: rcpi on Aug 5, 2009 3:57 PM
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This isn't a case of J. Doe willfully satisfying a pleasure eating itch provided to him by a benevolent supplier. Its more a case of a corporate based narco-state co-opting with the health care industry to process its consumers exactly like Tyson processes its chickens. Consumers 2.0.
I urge the author to please, please dig into the MSG aspect, its history, and commercial development more thoroughly and continue his excellent reporting.
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Posted by: cori on Aug 5, 2009 6:18 PM
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Where are the pro reform people when we need them?
The mandates would involve "diverting additional billions to private insurers by requiring middle-class Americans to purchase defective policies from these firms - policies with so many gaps and loopholes that they currently leave millions of our insured patients vulnerable to financial ruin," says a letter signed by more than 3,500 doctors and released last week by Physicians for a National Health Program.
Days ago, a New York Times headline proclaimed an emerging "consensus" and "common ground" on Capitol Hill. In passing, the article mentioned that lawmakers "agree on the need to provide federal subsidies to help make insurance affordable for people with modest incomes. For poor people, Medicaid eligibility would be expanded."
It's a scenario that amounts to expansion of health care ghettos nationwide. Medicaid's reimbursement rates for medical providers are so paltry that "Medicaid patient" is often a synonym for someone who can't find a doctor willing to help.
But what about "the public plan" - enabling the government to offer health insurance that would be an alternative to the wares of for-profit insurance firms? "Under pressure from industry and their lobbyists, the public plan has been watered down to a small and ineffectual option at best, if it ever survives to being enacted," says John Geyman, professor emeritus of family medicine at the University of Washington.
A public plan option "would do little to mitigate the damage of a reform that perpetuates private insurers' dominant role," according to the letter from 3,500 physicians. "Even a robust public option would fore go 90 percent of the bureaucratic savings achievable under single payer. And a kinder, gentler public option would quickly fail in a health care marketplace where competition involves a race to the bottom, not the top, where insurers compete by NOT paying for care."
While the health care policy outcomes are looking grim, the supposed political imperatives are fueling the desires of Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill to produce a victory that President Obama can tout as health care reform. Consider this quote from "a prominent Democrat" in the August 10 edition of Time magazine: "Something called health-reform legislation will pass. The political consequences of not passing anything would be too great."
The likely result is a glide path to disaster.
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2. When is the last time you saw-- or heard-- the word "bolus" (the body of food in process of being chewed-- less usefully referred to as "mouthful"). I hope this article will help some folks start thinking about chewing food. The entertainment propaganda industry has trained us to have an ignorant disgust for saliva (the word "spit" say it all) so we are led to overlook the importance of ensalivating all the food before swallowing-- thus as Gupta says, the average Joe chews 10 times before swallowing instead of 25). The customer feels virtuous about buying lettuce and tomatoes but amid the easily swallowable "adult baby food" little bits of lettuce go down inadequately chewed and are not digested.
3. Check the role of cigarettes, a form of self-medication to keep junk food addicts from gaining weight. As fear of cigarettes reduced smoking, catastrophic rose. Time to promote safe nicotine-administration systems such as E-CIGARETTE.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Aug 5, 2009 7:57 PM
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. . . .
Well, well; if evolution follows the food industry, humans in future generations will be saying bye-bye to their teeth. What's the point of having them, when they just get in the way of savoring that tantillizing, no-need-to-chew bolus? (In this respect, traditional English cooking, which used to render everything to the point of mush, was 'way ahead of the American food industry –– and the English had the toothless mouths by middle-age to prove it.)
Of course, the Law of Unintended Consequences will work its magic in favor of men and their girlfriends, when those teeth, which get in the way of another couple of activities as well, are no longer there to scrape and hurt ...
Oh, what a glorious future we behold, when we can gum into submission both our food and our significant others! Ya-hoo!
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Posted by: mrtwilight23 on Aug 5, 2009 8:35 PM
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Your body needs salt and fat to survive but not processed sugars and starches.
Sugars are Triple Agents. They drive hunger, trigger fat storage, and are food for otherwise short-lived cancer cells.
On top of that, it's well documented now that they increase small low density lipoprotien production, which are THE cause of heart disease.
Sugar's role in diabetes doesn't need mentioning as it's well established.
The fingering of fat as the bad guy is driven by some Puritanical self-loathing.
Let's face it: some people out there would rather take a complete meal in a pill than ever actually enjoy and take pleasure in Real Food.
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Posted by: stina723 on Aug 7, 2009 9:04 AM
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Also - where is the personal responsibility? Everyone controls what goes into their mouth... Hey, if you eat it, then you reap the consequences.
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Posted by: skepticgod on Aug 7, 2009 10:10 PM
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The differences between Latin Americans and USAmericans is that Latin Americans are awake. While the only thing that the USAmericans, the Wal-Mart ANTI-POLITICS, POLITICAL-APATHETIC conformist zombiefied boring drones worry about is binge-eating on Duncan Hines, Pillsbury rolls, frozen pizzas, Pillsbury crossaints (They are good shit), Tostitos with melted cheese, etc. fig-bars, doritos, corn-dogs, pancakes, pillsbury cakes, kraft cheese, Nabisco Ritz cookies, combos, oreos, pop-tarts, combos, tostitos, fajitas, calzonis, Cicis pizzas, Sonic Drive in, Golden Corral, I-hop all u can eat buffets, potatoe salads, twinkies, little debbies, donkin donuts, struddles, apple jax, pecan pies, ice cream, M and ms, Twix, Snickers bars, chocolate chip cookies
RICOTTA and Butter are another tools used by capitalist-controllers to sedate americans into an endless sleep of cheese, bread, butter and cake slavery.
Let's face it capitalism sucks and capitalist parties suck. Here in USA life is a hell for the majority of people. The capitalist American parties (Democrats and Republicans) have only produced: poverty, misery, diabetes, obesity, an epidemia of heart-related deaths and illnesses, foreclosures, tent cities, 20% of unemployment, 80 millions of americans in poverty, and 1 out of 6 american children starving. While a minority which is about 2% to 5% of the USA population is getting richer, and richer and richer. While the rest of americans is getting poorer, poorer and poorer.
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Posted by: skepticgod on Aug 7, 2009 10:17 PM
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Posted by: mush4brains on Aug 8, 2009 9:05 PM
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Ending all subsidies to corn production will save taxpayers money, reduce the size of government, and reduce our healthcare costs.
One thing the left needs to get through its collective head is that smaller government is something we should also be fighting for.
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Posted by: Natural Grocers on Aug 10, 2009 9:48 AM
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It takes a while, but you can re-acquire a taste for natural food and a relearn a true distaste for artificial ingredients (especially if the artificial ingredients are causing illness, discomfort, wieght gain, or sluggishness). We suggest to customers that they identify foods that make them feel better and function better, and ask them to reinforce their preferences for those healthy foods rather than those that provide only immediate, short-term gratification.
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Posted by: Recher on Aug 11, 2009 2:07 PM
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I can make healthier fried chicken and
and hamburger for less money and in less time than eating out at KFS or McRipoff
wish i'd heard of the offer to make 7 pieces chicken 4 muffins etc for under $10. Easy Peasy
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Posted by: Candleinheart on Aug 11, 2009 2:33 PM
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That experience showed me there are other ways to get better than pills which always made me sick.By the time I was pregnant as a married woman I had read extensively in Nutrition and Alternative Healing Methods. Sons were breast fed. (I was only woman in ward of 95 births that chose to breast feed 1960.)
My sons were raised on natural, homemade foods. For 38 years I enjoyed nearly perfect health. My sons did get a few things but nothing like their peers at school. As one person wrote, read labels...look at everything you put in your mouth...is this what Nature intended?
In 1976 I taught courses on learning about eating right in Adult Ed classes.MANY years later a fellow came to my home to stain my dining room table. Seems his wife took the course. He had had major heart problems. He took all the info she brought home and changed his way of eating. He thanked me profusely. He was healthy ever since.
Our bodies are such marvelous miracles....we must give it our best. Whole grains, fruits, vegetables, lean meats. Look into proper food combining. The book, 4 Diets 4 Blood Types, is a start. Don't gorge. Fall in love with the beauty of garden vegetables, gorgeous fruits,enjoy Nature, get away from TV, bring a few flowers in to enjoy no matter how humble your abode. Yes, you men too!. All those colors in foods have vibrations that enhance our spirits. Please keep the Planet clean. Walk barefoot on warm, moist earth, grass, love the clouds, find fresh air, get the sun on you. We're a part of it all! There are many other factors to being healthy, but at least, if you want a sturdy house, you build a solid foundation. Give your body the best. The rest is up to our individual Destinies. Honor your body!We are to be stewards of Mother Earth, not her rapists. She will soon work hard to dispose of that which is poisoning her. Earth is a living, breathing entity. When our blood gets polluted we get sick. Mother Earth's oceans and streams are sick. She will fight to heal. She will dispose of those who hurt her. Do not laugh at this. We MUST protect Earth as we protect our loved ones. TOP PRIORITY!
Native American prophecies clearly state that our grandchildren will not live a full life expectancy the way we are now headed. ALL MUST care for this Planet!
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Posted by: lmbfreespirit on Aug 31, 2009 5:49 PM
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YES, eat healthy, but don't forget to exercise!
& if you like the fries @ McDonalds...JUST get the fries! OnTheSame token: if you like BananaSplits @ 31 flavors, PERHAPS...
just once a week or once/ month!!!!!!!!!!!
One could even do BOTH~~~~~ still better than daily!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: Seppuku on Aug 5, 2009 12:22 AM
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Do you want big brother to tell you what you can and cannot eat? I’ll be more than happy to volunteer a few hours a week to stand outside of a fast food restaurant with a caliper and turn away balls of goo, include children. “Sorry buddy. You’re too round to have a Happy Meal." After all, “It takes a Village” right?
This is what you are eating.
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» Apply for the job.
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» I think you'd get frustrated getting paid to do that
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» But, come on..........the corporations are just meeting a demand.
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» demand the corporAtions created
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Posted by: ProfBob on Aug 5, 2009 12:42 AM
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And junk food tastes so good!
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Aug 5, 2009 1:38 AM
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Junk is not necessarily a corporate thing, as this article implies. Diner food, pizza, cheese steaks, mega-burgers, BBQ, etc. can be a mom-and-pop thing, and have been so throughout history. In fact, lately I've been looking for a better way to find those great hole-in-the-wall local cult places as an alternative to corporate junk. I found a couple of web sites, but nothing very helpful.
The recipe is very simple: grease, starch, spice, salt, sugar, etc. You don't need fancy R&D or marketing departments to figure that one out; just a fat relative with a love for good cookin'.
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Posted by: Suzon on Aug 5, 2009 1:59 AM
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Junk food is a form of self-medication whether our stress comes from unemployment, long and unsocial hours of work, money and health worries or personal problems.
The overprivileged corporation is the enemy of the people. The answer lies not in political parties or individual leaders but in waking up everyone to the fact that we are all in the same boat and are defiling our planet while we are demeaning ourselves.
Human happiness should be our mutual goal as happy people have no need to dominate or control others.
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Posted by: Don Quixot on Aug 5, 2009 2:30 AM
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Posted by: pfgetty on Aug 5, 2009 2:48 AM
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Our taste buds and brain are wired to desire and search out foods that have these elements, because in the wild the food items that have these things also have what we need to nourish our bodies.
But plants that have sweet and starchy tastes have lots of other nourishments and are not very compact with calories, and meats with the salty taste and fat are hard to get and usually pretty tiny and more protein and less fat.
So as we go after these foods laden with what our brain and tongue wants, we don't get the proper balance, and over decades we suffer nutritionally and we damage the organs that try to deal with the imbalance...........pancreas, liver, blood vessels, adipose tissue, immune systems, hormones, etc.
Fast foods have evolved to have just exactly the mixes that satisfy our desires, desires that were once so important to our survival and helped us search out the plants and animal foods that sustained us the best.
All we have left to protect us now is knowledge and willpower, a lifetime of it, and it is hard to be good all the time.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Aug 5, 2009 3:02 AM
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Overweight people are a major drain on our dysfunctional health-care system. Those of us who aren't obese are paying the tab.
It's the same with smokers, gun freaks, and other addicts. They don't care how much the rest of us have to pay (or who gets killed)--just so long as they can have their fun.
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» look at cancer "treatments"
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Posted by: rtb61 on Aug 5, 2009 3:42 AM
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Posted by: GatoPreto on Aug 5, 2009 3:52 AM
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Try it, it's a real eye-opener.
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Posted by: Hans B on Aug 5, 2009 4:20 AM
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Also I see no real evidence in this article that points to addiction-inducing products. Satisfying the senses is something other than addiction - as a former smoker who now watches his weight, I know the difference. Staying away from Doritos or any other fast food is easy. My kids get chips only on birthdays, coca cola never, and they love apples and garden-grown tomatoes, and I'm in great shape too with little to no effort.
"Addiction" is no excuse for gluttony. If there is an excuse, it's the general sickness of our society which may lead people to treat their bodies the way they see everything else being treated, as disposable, abusable objects.
PS The part about umamis was really interesting. But taste enhancers aren't necessarily bad. What if umamis were used to promote organic food (the way Hindus use asafoetida in their vegetarian cooking)? Would we then speak of nefarious "addiction"?
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Posted by: pfgetty on Aug 5, 2009 4:41 AM
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Same with veggies.
Corn and tomatoes were hardly edible before man manipulated them to make them tastier.
Meats are far more fatty than any wild meats.
Grains, not even a natural food for us, have been changed into something that never existed, and then processed into breads and flours and many products, none of which is natural for us.
Even fish now, once a wild food, is grown and altered to make them cheaper and just the size and type that make our mouths water.
The fast food industry is just doing more of what man has been doing for about 11,000 years: manipulating his food to bring out the flavors and textures he likes, even as the foods then become less healthy for us.
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Posted by: Gabba_Gabba_Hey on Aug 5, 2009 4:58 AM
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Speak for yourself, Queen Victoria. As so often happens with AlterNet editors, an article with an interesting premise and conclusions has a headline that's somewhat misleading.
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Posted by: thornwolf on Aug 5, 2009 4:58 AM
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Posted by: colinsyme on Aug 5, 2009 4:58 AM
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What do we do now that all the information is out there? well at this stage, l'm sorry to say IS personal responsibility. Parents who are overweight are far more likely to have overweight kids and it is this group who are are most at risk, making this issue a political one is the worst thing we can do as people have different views regarding politics, lines will be drawn and opinions will be polarised,---"its unpatriotic to pass a KFC and shop at a local farmers co-op that sells fresh fruit& vegetables"
Bi-partisan community leaders must become the army that tackles obesity, they are the only ones who will be able to advise and help with this, if folk feel that they are being dictated to by either Liberals or Conservatives its perfectly natural they will rebel.
In the UK some parents influenced by TV chefs have embraced healthy school dinners in place of burgers and chips,---unfortunately most kids don't seem to like healthy options and prefer to walk into towns and spend their lunch money on junk, so persuading them to change is looking like a long battle ahead.
Parents must be educated into thinking that they are doing this as a patriotic duty towards future generations
and that can only be done if all the political parties speak with one voice. After-all eating the way our grand-parents did is no big deal!
There are many ways to achieve this,high sales-tax on foods with a high fat ratio or by giving tax-breaks to those who sell fresh fruit/vegetables is one way, another is Government information on what is "healthy" because many people believe that all burgers ARE
healthy when in fact they are not.
This must not become a war between meat eaters and vegetarians as both prepared in the right way are healthy, both cooked the wrong way with added fats and monosodium glutamate are bad. l have met vegetarians who smugly believe that vege-burgers are healthy but when you look closly at the label you will see the fat content is off the scale,--they would be better off eating a lean meat burger.
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Posted by: drosera on Aug 5, 2009 5:11 AM
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People love junk food because they have not experienced truly delicious food--a good pistou, ratatouille, a vegetarian chili. They were brought up on junk and that early experience shapes their choices now. It won't be easy to undo the effects of one or two generations of learning the wrong things.
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Posted by: brer on Aug 5, 2009 5:16 AM
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We could get the junk out of the classrooms....out of the schools (vending machines)...out of Brownie meetings and sports practice.
It's everywhere.
I'm a substitute teacher, and I see what happens in the schools. I think sometimes these little kindergarteners eat half their weight in sugar in a day in class. There's snack time with some junky "health bar" which is full of sugar. Then it's lunch time where the parents have packed the lunch with "drink" (sugar) and more bars (sugar) and yogurt (sugar) and more. One time I saw a kid with a lovely homemade cookie as large as his head. That was the hit of the classroom.
Then there's the big jar of candy at the front of the class which children can choose from as a reward. Then it's somebody's birthday (nearly ever other day it seems) and the huge cupcakes come out (sugar) along with a drink (sugar).
And one of five days it seems there is a holiday or 100 day or "super friday" or something where junk food reigns again. The "roommothers" arrive with their syrupy drinks (sugar) and their cookies and the bags of candy.
One time the PTA created a large and elaborate spook alley. The kids loved it. It was perfect--scary but safe, amazingly great. Then at the end, each child was handed a lunch bag FULL TO THE BRIM with CANDY!!! They would have loved the spook alley without the candy at the end, but we are so used to having candy at every event, the sponsors couldn't conceive of having it without the surprise at the end.
Then the kids go to their after school activities where there is inevitably some sort of sugary product given at the end. And, then they go out to McDonalds with their parents for supper where, as we know, they are eating corn syrup, corn syrup, corn syrup.
SOMETHING HAS TO STOP THIS!!!
Some enlightened person could say, "Could we have oranges at the end of practice instead of orange drink?"
or...
"Principal, could you enforce a policy of no candy in the school."
or
"Parents, please send in carrot sticks for a snack, NOT graham crackers or pretzels or "health" bars.
or....
"Let's learn about nutrition in the Cub Scout meeting and then everyone bring a NUTRITIOUS snack in their turn."
or
"NO more soft drink machines in the schools."
also...
MOre exercise in school. MOre schools within walking distance. More playing on the playground...
There's a LOT we could do if we wanted to.
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Posted by: Oemissions on Aug 5, 2009 5:17 AM
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people fillup with gas and silly snacks.
our grandparents and great grandpaents never snacked.
the british had a teatime but it wasn't chips and pop and or bags of this and that.
fast cars... fast food and...mindless munching.
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Posted by: ellie on Aug 5, 2009 5:33 AM
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few of the fast food joints post carb counts that include all sugars... stay out of restaurants that can't tell me what the carb count is too... hey, have to calculate how much injected insulin needed and fats and salt can skew my guesses and land me in the in the ER fast...
love cheese nips but the info on the box was wrong and spent 3 days in the ICU almost dying from their bad nutrition info a few years back... shot letters off to the manufacturer and a few days ago, looked, and they still have the same bad info on the box!!!
if you had to look at food like I do, you'd realize every food item has a price and for me, it comes in a little vial that lasts about a week for $140.00 each...
back to coffee... plain, whole bean fair traded coffee from a non-profit organization in New England...
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 5, 2009 5:56 AM
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Other folks don't have it so nice.
Small world mind?
P.S. Of course you can commit suicide (eventually) by burger. Same with cigs, alcohol, hard drugs, and oh-so-lethal dihydrogen monooxide, if it is ingested in sufficient quantities.
I'm sure that most CAN use their higher brain--the one that exercises restraint when a primitive urge hits you, else there'd be pandemonium at large, not just in your head, over your neighbor's plate. Tell your lizard brain no, for a change?
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Posted by: When In Doubt on Aug 5, 2009 6:08 AM
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No wonder they are against a single payer system.
Never forget the Politicians who are whores for all of the above
Bon Appetit
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Posted by: ETSpoon on Aug 5, 2009 6:46 AM
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I mean, really now, who do you think hires all those psych and sociology majors who graduate from the nation's state collages and universities every year? State governments? County governments? I know for a fact that marketing research firms hire a good many psychologists and sociologists.
Why do I think that? The best friend of a fellow I used to work with, upon receiving his master's degree in psychology from the local university, was immediately hired to supervise operations at the local office of a major marketing research company. Hell, I guinea pigged for him, got a case of beer one time and 35 bucks another.
You soon realize that the corporate suits paying for the "research" view the rest of "us" merely as pigeons in a Skinner box. Why do you think these s.o.b.s refer to we mere mortals as consumers rather than customers or patrons or clients? To me the implication is clear: "Consumers" are passive, those other critters may cause trouble. Therefore through the canny use of modern psychological and sociological techniques, brainwashing in other words, convince "customers," they are in fact "consumers" and soon they will eat, buy and love any shit that is handed to them.
For those of you reading this who yet eat at McDonald's, Burger King or Hardees the brainwashing has worked. Hasn't it?
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 5, 2009 6:55 AM
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I believe that far too many Americans not only don't cook, the problem is they no longer know how to season (for flavor) their foods. This in turn leads to taste buds, not being satisfied. This non satisfaction of taste buds is what has people "craving" that snack of choice! Add to this the empty quality in our lives, and instead of realizing what it really is - we tend to eat to satisfy that "need".
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Posted by: ETSpoon on Aug 5, 2009 7:09 AM
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Quite often the women in my circle of friends find themselves either unemployed, underemployed and working two minimum-wage jobs to make ends meet. Often a fast-food meal is all these women can afford or have time to scarf down between one low wage job and the other.
I can't condemn these ladies too much, knowing their economic circumstances, for wolfing down a McDonald's fish fillet sandwich now and then.
I do try to cook a substancial meal for them from time to time.
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;-)
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Posted by: warrior woman on Aug 5, 2009 8:19 AM
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As a person who has 4 of 5 family members with serious health issues that are directly related to MSG, I find it criminal that the FDA poses such bull sh-t that it is safe.
It has been found by the FDA to be a “relatively safe” additive, however, there aren’t guidelines on what’s a “safe” quantity. Everyone’s tolerance level is different. They acknowledge that there may be sensitivities to the product, however, it’s not acknowledged as an allergen and they hedge further warnings because the body can produce glutamates naturally. In reviewing the National Library of Medicine and National Institutes of Health website, searching on MSG and obese, 119 studies appear. Certain obesity studies used mice injected with MSG because it caused them to become obese. Obesity doesn’t occur naturally in mice.
Studies suggest links to asthma, childhood obesity, behavior issues, brain deterioration (Alzheimer’s), cardiac, digestive, eye, neurological, skin, urological, and a host of other problems. When many of the studies were published, they were ignored or negated by manufacturers and their “friendly” scientists.
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Posted by: advancedatheist on Aug 5, 2009 8:26 AM
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Mixing up this lifestyle snobbery with progressive politics has probably helped to turn the working class away from voting for some sensible policies in the U.S. You guys might get farther by respecting people's choices about private matters, instead of treating the choosers like they come from Opposite Land.
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Posted by: woody, tokin' librul on Aug 5, 2009 8:55 AM
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Humans are biologically programmed to crave sweet, salt, and fat.
That's because, in our natural scavenger state-of-nature, those substances are extremely rare.
But we require them, too.
So, when presented the opportunity, we gorge.
And 'kapitalismus,' which only prospers in relation to the desires it can promote, profits handsomely...
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Posted by: AJR Journal on Aug 5, 2009 9:08 AM
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There is nothing she can do to get on your good side.
She never thinks of you, yet you can't stop thinking about her.
Sarah Palin is winning!
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Posted by: topview on Aug 5, 2009 9:47 AM
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Two weeks after I got my first SS check I was diagnosed with colon cancer.
That was 13 years ago. I ate from all those junk food establishments, especially KFC. It was fast and easy to wolf it down and on the road again.
I have since changed my diet and habits. I only eat organic and never any processed foods. I have read almost every label on the Food Industries packaged foods, and you cannot find any packaged foods that don't contain some sort of chemical additive that is harmful to our bodies.
Many of these chemical additives in the food source creates harmful hormones that make changes in our metabolism and are detrimental to our cellular system, that create early cell death and mutant changes.
It is very hard to return to nature for your food source, but that is what I try to do when I feed my body now.
Nature provided us with everything we need to survive but it is almost impossible to find a perfect natural substance on earth now, as the environment has been change with man made pollutions and chemicals that change even what nature has provided us for optimal health.
The Pharmaceutical and food industries are to powerful to ever make the changes we need to restore the health of the population, as they would lose to much in that process.
You just have to educate the people so they understand what they eat is how they will exist, healthy or just plain sick and obese and a drain on their life.
The Factory Farm are the largest pollutants of this planet with all the pesticides, herbicides and chemical fertilizers, that are used to produce all the food grown on the soils.
Those pollutants eventually wash into the streams and rivers and end up in the oceans, they then are creating huge dead zones that kill everything in their path. Eventually they will kill off the Marine phytoplankton, that is the base of the food change. When that happens, so goes the food for survival and then, so goes the inhabitants of earth.
This is what will happen if there is not change to restore the planet as nature intended. You can't screw with Mother Nature, She will have revenge. Man must stop destroying this place we live in, for profit, as there is no where else we can go.Education is the answer to making changes. Read labels and stop buying the food that is killing the inhabitants of planet earth.
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Posted by: ava1984 on Aug 5, 2009 9:59 AM
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Recently, my 40 year old daughter told me that when she visited the homes of school friends, she was in awe of the snacks; chips, cokes, cookies!
She marveled at the goodies available in those homes; she told them: 'We don't have any of this stuff!' Poor little deprived girl; cursed with good health, shining hair, great smile and strong bones. Sigh...
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Posted by: nltrihey on Aug 5, 2009 12:03 PM
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But more than smugness, the feeling I have is sadness and despair that we have come to this—that children are suffering from obesity and associated ills, like diabetes and hypertension, while big corporations pile up the profits from this. And I really don’t think it’s true that “[we] know this food is killing us slowly with diabetes, heart disease and cancer.” Do five-year-olds know that? Do their parents really believe it? I don’t think these parents would let their children smoke cigarettes!
This, along with the related enormous issue of American health (or rather, “sickness”), is an overwhelming problem. The answer to both seems so simple and yet so impossible to achieve, given our entrenched penchant for eating stuff that is so far from meeting our bodies’ nutritional needs. Michael Pollan summed it up: Eat real food, mostly plants. I don’t think 90% of us know what that means!
Michael Pollan wrote a letter to President Obama about health care reform. I read it and thought it so on the mark. If every citizen read it and implemented his recommendations, the positive impact on our health would be stupendous. But the negative economic impact on the medical/pharmaceutical industry and manufactured/junk food industry would also be stupendous! It’s fun to imagine, but it won’t happen!
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Posted by: darkgrrrl on Aug 5, 2009 12:07 PM
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Home cooking requires time and planning. One must shop for the required ingredients, cook the meal, and clean up. The payoff is that you eat better meals with healthier ingredients. It's a matter of priorities.
American society has an ever-increasing sense of entitlement. Entitlement to have what I want, when I want it, with as little cost as possible. Cost involves time as well as money. When weighing the decision to spend 30-60 minutes cooking dinner at home vs. going through a drive-thru, a person performs a personal cost-benefit analysis. Is a healthier, home-cooked meal worth the time investment required? Or would I rather get take-out so I can spend that time on a pleasure activity like TV or video games? Kids, multiple jobs, long commutes, etc. all take time and make the home cooking investment less appealing.
Some people don't like to cook, don't know how to cook, etc. Feeling uncomfortable with a task can makes the task not enjoyable, at first. But if you can read a recipe, you can cook. Get a copy of The Best 30-Minute Recipe by Cook's Illustrated, or a similar cookbook aimed at weeknight dinners. Choose recipes. Make a shopping list and make one weekly trip to the grocery store - buying ingredients with a plan means you will spend less and have less waste. Cook a meal each night. Pack the leftovers for lunch.
Cooking at home with whole ingredients can teach you new skills, expand your dining horizons, and improve your diet. It is an investment of some time each day. Until fast food lovers see the value of that investment, they will keep getting take-out.
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Posted by: PillarKY on Aug 5, 2009 12:18 PM
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Gupta points out that the corn "farmer" gets only a slice of a penny for every dollar spent on a bag of fritos. This is true, but even that isn't getting to the severity of the decline of farmers' slice of the food dollar.
When a corn farmer gets a penny, 80-90% of that money is going straight to the real profiteers in this food system: the suppliers of seed, equipment, chemicals, and fuel.
Of course, the actual price that corn farmers get from buyers who make things like fritos is nowhere near profitable. If it were truly a "free market", no one would grow corn, or soybeans, or any other commodity that is traded globally. The subsidy system hides the true costs, and is basically a massive system of shifting money from the government, thru farmers, to the companies that supply the agro-insustrial complex, or whatever you want to call it.
On the other side of the racket, frito's-makers, corn syrup dealers, and people feeding corn in animal factories get a super cheap product, since our subsidy system is really fitting the bill.
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Posted by: monkeyrocketsurgeon on Aug 5, 2009 12:47 PM
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The idea that some demonic force is at work through the ever dreaded "they" to subjugate the masses and lead us to hell... is a regressive fallacy and needs to be left for the right wing.
In a market driven economy, those that provide a product or service aren't evil if; that product or service doesn't produce the results you consider good, or you deem evil.
"They" are people with jobs that provide what those in america want. It's NOT the other way 'round.
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Posted by: Pirate1 on Aug 5, 2009 1:18 PM
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As the great Frank Zappa sang in "Brown Shoes Don't make It" "Do ya love it? Do ya hate it? There it is, the way you made it... WOOOOWWwww!!!
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Posted by: maxsmart on Aug 5, 2009 2:42 PM
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All of these add-on costs of processing and sensationalizing are being added on to our cost of living and it is becoming a weight on our wallets so we slowly are sinking all the while we are wallowing in mass produced magic that casts a spell over us. The more we work to keep up the less time we have for anything but fast food.
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Posted by: dayahka on Aug 5, 2009 3:21 PM
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If you blame only the pusher, then it's the other guy's fault--not your own, our own. And the way to correct the other guy's problem is always more government regulation, for asking us to correct our own behavior is just asking too much, eh?
Sure the food business is at fault, sure. But so are we. Like you, I admit to craving some junk food every now and then--and about once a year I give in to temptation. But the rest of the time, I cook my own fresh foods, add my own herbs and spices, and eat well. It can be done by anyone. If people stopped buying junk, the junk dealers would go out of business--or develop better foods.
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Posted by: Gravitas on Aug 5, 2009 3:37 PM
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Not that I am against taking out MSG, high frutocse corn syrup and the rest of the garbage out of processed food. But the title of this long winded article still implies the blame is with the person and not the food manufacturer. And I didn't want to wade through all four pages. How many others just read the headlines? Tell people what MSG does to them in 200 words or less, fight additives one at a time to make things better. Oh wait! That benefits everyone. Sorry, isn't the real agenda to benefit the rich under the ruse it is for our own good?
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Posted by: rcpi on Aug 5, 2009 3:57 PM
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This isn't a case of J. Doe willfully satisfying a pleasure eating itch provided to him by a benevolent supplier. Its more a case of a corporate based narco-state co-opting with the health care industry to process its consumers exactly like Tyson processes its chickens. Consumers 2.0.
I urge the author to please, please dig into the MSG aspect, its history, and commercial development more thoroughly and continue his excellent reporting.
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Posted by: cori on Aug 5, 2009 6:18 PM
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Where are the pro reform people when we need them?
The mandates would involve "diverting additional billions to private insurers by requiring middle-class Americans to purchase defective policies from these firms - policies with so many gaps and loopholes that they currently leave millions of our insured patients vulnerable to financial ruin," says a letter signed by more than 3,500 doctors and released last week by Physicians for a National Health Program.
Days ago, a New York Times headline proclaimed an emerging "consensus" and "common ground" on Capitol Hill. In passing, the article mentioned that lawmakers "agree on the need to provide federal subsidies to help make insurance affordable for people with modest incomes. For poor people, Medicaid eligibility would be expanded."
It's a scenario that amounts to expansion of health care ghettos nationwide. Medicaid's reimbursement rates for medical providers are so paltry that "Medicaid patient" is often a synonym for someone who can't find a doctor willing to help.
But what about "the public plan" - enabling the government to offer health insurance that would be an alternative to the wares of for-profit insurance firms? "Under pressure from industry and their lobbyists, the public plan has been watered down to a small and ineffectual option at best, if it ever survives to being enacted," says John Geyman, professor emeritus of family medicine at the University of Washington.
A public plan option "would do little to mitigate the damage of a reform that perpetuates private insurers' dominant role," according to the letter from 3,500 physicians. "Even a robust public option would fore go 90 percent of the bureaucratic savings achievable under single payer. And a kinder, gentler public option would quickly fail in a health care marketplace where competition involves a race to the bottom, not the top, where insurers compete by NOT paying for care."
While the health care policy outcomes are looking grim, the supposed political imperatives are fueling the desires of Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill to produce a victory that President Obama can tout as health care reform. Consider this quote from "a prominent Democrat" in the August 10 edition of Time magazine: "Something called health-reform legislation will pass. The political consequences of not passing anything would be too great."
The likely result is a glide path to disaster.
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Posted by: tokerdesigner on Aug 5, 2009 6:31 PM
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2. When is the last time you saw-- or heard-- the word "bolus" (the body of food in process of being chewed-- less usefully referred to as "mouthful"). I hope this article will help some folks start thinking about chewing food. The entertainment propaganda industry has trained us to have an ignorant disgust for saliva (the word "spit" say it all) so we are led to overlook the importance of ensalivating all the food before swallowing-- thus as Gupta says, the average Joe chews 10 times before swallowing instead of 25). The customer feels virtuous about buying lettuce and tomatoes but amid the easily swallowable "adult baby food" little bits of lettuce go down inadequately chewed and are not digested.
3. Check the role of cigarettes, a form of self-medication to keep junk food addicts from gaining weight. As fear of cigarettes reduced smoking, catastrophic rose. Time to promote safe nicotine-administration systems such as E-CIGARETTE.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Aug 5, 2009 7:57 PM
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. . . .
Well, well; if evolution follows the food industry, humans in future generations will be saying bye-bye to their teeth. What's the point of having them, when they just get in the way of savoring that tantillizing, no-need-to-chew bolus? (In this respect, traditional English cooking, which used to render everything to the point of mush, was 'way ahead of the American food industry –– and the English had the toothless mouths by middle-age to prove it.)
Of course, the Law of Unintended Consequences will work its magic in favor of men and their girlfriends, when those teeth, which get in the way of another couple of activities as well, are no longer there to scrape and hurt ...
Oh, what a glorious future we behold, when we can gum into submission both our food and our significant others! Ya-hoo!
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Posted by: mrtwilight23 on Aug 5, 2009 8:35 PM
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Your body needs salt and fat to survive but not processed sugars and starches.
Sugars are Triple Agents. They drive hunger, trigger fat storage, and are food for otherwise short-lived cancer cells.
On top of that, it's well documented now that they increase small low density lipoprotien production, which are THE cause of heart disease.
Sugar's role in diabetes doesn't need mentioning as it's well established.
The fingering of fat as the bad guy is driven by some Puritanical self-loathing.
Let's face it: some people out there would rather take a complete meal in a pill than ever actually enjoy and take pleasure in Real Food.
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Posted by: stina723 on Aug 7, 2009 9:04 AM
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Also - where is the personal responsibility? Everyone controls what goes into their mouth... Hey, if you eat it, then you reap the consequences.
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Posted by: skepticgod on Aug 7, 2009 10:10 PM
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The differences between Latin Americans and USAmericans is that Latin Americans are awake. While the only thing that the USAmericans, the Wal-Mart ANTI-POLITICS, POLITICAL-APATHETIC conformist zombiefied boring drones worry about is binge-eating on Duncan Hines, Pillsbury rolls, frozen pizzas, Pillsbury crossaints (They are good shit), Tostitos with melted cheese, etc. fig-bars, doritos, corn-dogs, pancakes, pillsbury cakes, kraft cheese, Nabisco Ritz cookies, combos, oreos, pop-tarts, combos, tostitos, fajitas, calzonis, Cicis pizzas, Sonic Drive in, Golden Corral, I-hop all u can eat buffets, potatoe salads, twinkies, little debbies, donkin donuts, struddles, apple jax, pecan pies, ice cream, M and ms, Twix, Snickers bars, chocolate chip cookies
RICOTTA and Butter are another tools used by capitalist-controllers to sedate americans into an endless sleep of cheese, bread, butter and cake slavery.
Let's face it capitalism sucks and capitalist parties suck. Here in USA life is a hell for the majority of people. The capitalist American parties (Democrats and Republicans) have only produced: poverty, misery, diabetes, obesity, an epidemia of heart-related deaths and illnesses, foreclosures, tent cities, 20% of unemployment, 80 millions of americans in poverty, and 1 out of 6 american children starving. While a minority which is about 2% to 5% of the USA population is getting richer, and richer and richer. While the rest of americans is getting poorer, poorer and poorer.
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Posted by: skepticgod on Aug 7, 2009 10:17 PM
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Posted by: mush4brains on Aug 8, 2009 9:05 PM
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Ending all subsidies to corn production will save taxpayers money, reduce the size of government, and reduce our healthcare costs.
One thing the left needs to get through its collective head is that smaller government is something we should also be fighting for.
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Posted by: Natural Grocers on Aug 10, 2009 9:48 AM
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It takes a while, but you can re-acquire a taste for natural food and a relearn a true distaste for artificial ingredients (especially if the artificial ingredients are causing illness, discomfort, wieght gain, or sluggishness). We suggest to customers that they identify foods that make them feel better and function better, and ask them to reinforce their preferences for those healthy foods rather than those that provide only immediate, short-term gratification.
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Posted by: Recher on Aug 11, 2009 2:07 PM
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I can make healthier fried chicken and
and hamburger for less money and in less time than eating out at KFS or McRipoff
wish i'd heard of the offer to make 7 pieces chicken 4 muffins etc for under $10. Easy Peasy
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Posted by: Candleinheart on Aug 11, 2009 2:33 PM
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That experience showed me there are other ways to get better than pills which always made me sick.By the time I was pregnant as a married woman I had read extensively in Nutrition and Alternative Healing Methods. Sons were breast fed. (I was only woman in ward of 95 births that chose to breast feed 1960.)
My sons were raised on natural, homemade foods. For 38 years I enjoyed nearly perfect health. My sons did get a few things but nothing like their peers at school. As one person wrote, read labels...look at everything you put in your mouth...is this what Nature intended?
In 1976 I taught courses on learning about eating right in Adult Ed classes.MANY years later a fellow came to my home to stain my dining room table. Seems his wife took the course. He had had major heart problems. He took all the info she brought home and changed his way of eating. He thanked me profusely. He was healthy ever since.
Our bodies are such marvelous miracles....we must give it our best. Whole grains, fruits, vegetables, lean meats. Look into proper food combining. The book, 4 Diets 4 Blood Types, is a start. Don't gorge. Fall in love with the beauty of garden vegetables, gorgeous fruits,enjoy Nature, get away from TV, bring a few flowers in to enjoy no matter how humble your abode. Yes, you men too!. All those colors in foods have vibrations that enhance our spirits. Please keep the Planet clean. Walk barefoot on warm, moist earth, grass, love the clouds, find fresh air, get the sun on you. We're a part of it all! There are many other factors to being healthy, but at least, if you want a sturdy house, you build a solid foundation. Give your body the best. The rest is up to our individual Destinies. Honor your body!We are to be stewards of Mother Earth, not her rapists. She will soon work hard to dispose of that which is poisoning her. Earth is a living, breathing entity. When our blood gets polluted we get sick. Mother Earth's oceans and streams are sick. She will fight to heal. She will dispose of those who hurt her. Do not laugh at this. We MUST protect Earth as we protect our loved ones. TOP PRIORITY!
Native American prophecies clearly state that our grandchildren will not live a full life expectancy the way we are now headed. ALL MUST care for this Planet!
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Posted by: kevinpeters on Aug 18, 2009 2:37 PM
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Posted by: lmbfreespirit on Aug 31, 2009 5:49 PM
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YES, eat healthy, but don't forget to exercise!
& if you like the fries @ McDonalds...JUST get the fries! OnTheSame token: if you like BananaSplits @ 31 flavors, PERHAPS...
just once a week or once/ month!!!!!!!!!!!
One could even do BOTH~~~~~ still better than daily!!!!!!!!!!!
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