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Five Foods You Shouldn't Eat Raw
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Consumer safety articles, such as mine, often report how something seemingly innocuous will actually kill you, or at the very least, leave you maimed and crippled. In deference to this great modern media tradition, here’s my hysteria-inducing list:
1. Cookie dough (and anything else containing raw eggs): In addition to the risk of E. coli discussed in the article, eating egg-containing dough prior to baking it puts you at risk for Salmonella.
2. Fish: Sushi, sashimi, and ceviche can carry multiple parasites. My favorite is Diphyllobothrium latum, an intestinal tapeworm transmitted by freshwater fish such as salmon, which can grow 30 feet long and live 20 years.
3. Sprouts: Alfalfa, bean, and other sprouts carry Salmonella, E. coli, and Bacillus bacteria due to the warm, humid environments in which they’re grown. Washing the surface of the sprouts does not eliminate the chance of illness, as the bacteria can live internally. Raw sprouts are not recommended for children, the elderly, or people with weakened immune systems.
4. Beef and pork: Avoiding raw meat is a no-brainer, until you see it on the menu with an appetizing name like tartare or carpaccio. There’s a long list of diseases you could get from raw meat, so I’ll mention only one: neurocysticercosis, a parasite from undercooked pork that crawls from your intestine up to your brain, where it can live for years and cause seizures.
…and finally, no “Everybody Panic!” list is complete without at least one way you might inadvertently kill your child:
5. Honey: Honey contains bacterial spores that cause botulism, a disease that’s usually fatal if untreated. While adults and children have high stomach acid levels that kill the spores in honey, infants do not. Children less than a year old should not eat honey.
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Posted by: bouyant on Jul 18, 2009 1:13 AM
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For example, when is the last time someone in the US contracted that pork neuro thing?
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Posted by: paulmagillsmith on Jul 18, 2009 1:24 AM
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We are taught to fear the 'sell by' dates, and consequently much food in this country gets wasted, when the 'consume by' time is far more important. People are ignorant pansies, and many in the US just don't comprehend when they throw out completely edible & safe food they are probably causing someone thousands of miles away to starve...to death.
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Posted by: Gabba_Gabba_Hey on Jul 18, 2009 2:09 AM
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For instance seed catalogs sell sprouters for $9.99 or so that are perfect for this purpose. Or you just need a set-up where the seeds are soaked from above (daily) and the water collects below. It only takes a few days.
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Posted by: souffrantfleur on Jul 18, 2009 4:39 AM
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Somehow Americans have come to believe that the only acceptable level of risk in life is no risk at all. It's statistical B.S. and freaking boring as hell. We're becoming a nation of risk-averse pussies- unless, of course, we're illegally invading a country for their oil.
As for me, I'll keep growing my own sprouts and eating the occasional, stunningly fabulous beef carpaccio. And drinking from the garden hose.
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Posted by: smadaj on Jul 18, 2009 6:00 AM
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If the stuff in the supermarkets was actually food, which most of it is not, American hospitals would not be sporting "double-wide" wheelchairs, there wouldn't be such a market for SUVs with "captain's chairs" (since we have so many people who can't fit in smaller cars now!) and and it wouldn't be common to see women with rear ends that look like shelves made of 40 pounds of encased jello, or men who can't see their private parts, or even their feet.
Practically the only actual "food" - meaning nutritious stuff to be consumed - is in the produce section (and if you are a carnivore, the meat/fish/dairy section) of your grocery store.
There is nothing but toxic stuff in the soda isle. Ditto the chips and cookies isle. Virtually nothing in the cereal isle, with the exception of a small handful of grain products that are not loaded with high fructose corn syrup and a bunch of chemicals. If there is an organic/natural section, you can find some foods that won't hurt you in one way or another. Most preservatives are bad for you, most food coloring is bad for you. This, alone, wipes out the frozen section and most of the dairy section, ditto the donuts and pastries section. (If you don't make it at home and know what is in it, it's probably not good to ingest too much of it - anything with a shelf-life of who-knows how many months/years is probably not a good "food" source. In fact, a good rule of thumb is that if it doesn't rot, it's not food, so you shouldn't want to challenge your immune or digestive systems with trying to cope with it.)
The quantity of caffeine and sugar being consumed is killing people. The mercury in fish is damaging peoples' brains (and the brains of unborn and nursing children). The antibiotics in meat are at such high levels because with the exception of grazing cattle, the giant meat industry keeps their poor cows in feed lots where the animals stand in feces up to their bellies or necks, and their bodies are covered with suppurating sores that would kill them if not for the high levels of antibiotics coursing through their sick systems - who wants to eat sick or dying animals, but that's what's in your cold cut meats and every other cheap meat - buy one burger for a dollar, get the second one free!
People can get angry when someone posts a notice that the food is bad, but it doesn't make sense to me. Look around, America - people are dying from all of this toxic stuff they are tossing down their throats. When I was a kid it was rare - RARE - to see obese people. Now it's the norm. It's not because obese people are eating gluttonous proportions of food, it's because the food they are eating is not nourishing (sustaining life). It is poisoning. And they eat more and more, trying to get nutrients that are not there.
So, with ample evidence surrounding us that people are unhealthy in the extreme, why do so many people who read a list of five foods that might be wise to avoid, or at least consider, become so enraged?
Why are we defending a food-production system that has been turned into a profit-regardless-of-risks system?
If your grandmother never heard of something, it's probably not food. If you can't pronounce an ingredient, it's probably not good for you, and it could be very bad for you.
It is naive in the extreme to believe that the federal government is watching out for your best interests. They are in the pocket of the major food industry, which is designed to make money, not feed you nutritious food. The government is also governed by the best interests of the pharmaceutical and "health care" industries, both of which make billions off of sick and dying people.
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Posted by: Naoma on Jul 18, 2009 6:37 AM
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ONLY THE FRESHEST SUSHI PLACES WHERE THE CHEF IS
JAPANESE. I KNEW ABOUT THE HONEY. USED TO GROWN MY OWN SPROUTS. AND I DO NOT EAT ANY MEAT.
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Posted by: newsound on Jul 18, 2009 7:37 AM
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A simple reminder on basic food safety and everybody goes running to the hills screaming!
I thought Alternet readers were just a tad more . . . . savvy.
None of you would survive for one second in Japan. Raw fish, eggs and sprouts are staples. They're simply smart enough to know how to handle and prepare them.
I guess some just feel safer eating that over-cooked, greasy Western food. Yuk.
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Posted by: cprcdirector on Jul 18, 2009 7:49 AM
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For those who think the article is intended as satire: perhaps, but don't feed raw honey to your baby. Read about the risks of doing so at http://www.bizzybeehoney.com/inandrawho.html - the National Honey Board's page on infants and raw honey.
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Posted by: Longdream on Jul 18, 2009 8:16 AM
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Actually, the advice he's giving is probably good advice for feeding children, who are more susceptible to food parasites and toxins than adults are, but he forgot to say so.
In a time when peanut paste from a giant food warehouse, which, it turns out, was in an astonishing percentage of peanut-butter-related commercial food, killed and sickened people across the country, I think this very outdated listing doesn't hit the mark.
If we're going to pay attention to something, it should be how our commercially produced food is handled, and where the main ingredients come from.
It does come down to eating locally, and getting away from processed food.
You know, even ten or fifteen years ago a salmonella outbreak was so rare it made national news without sickening people in all fifty states. Is it me, or are contaminated food ingredients becoming a constant problem? What's the difference between the way things were done just a few years ago, and the way they're done now.
Is it only overseas ingredients being used more frequently now? I don't think so. The spinach contaminated with e-coli was grown in California.
The Nestle's Toll House Cookie Dough with e-coli was from a plant in Virginia. That one ended up being a mystery, because they said they were going to change the suppliers of the main ingredients of their product. That earned a giant WTF from me, because there wasn't any information about the suppliers, whether or not they routinely sell e-coli contaminated "main ingredients" all over the country, and whether or not any action was taken to follow up and clean them up, if they were indeed the cause of that outbreak.
Never mind the sushi--odds are it's quite safe. It's what we don't know about our food that will make us sick.
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Posted by: driftwolf on Jul 18, 2009 10:57 AM
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In countries that actually HAVE food safety and strict government regulations all of the above can safely be eaten raw. Look at Japan and France for some examples of how to do it right. In both countries, all of the above are regularly eaten raw with no ill effects on anyone.
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Posted by: soymoon on Jul 18, 2009 11:10 AM
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While most of you probably wouldn't eat it at all,
those that do need to be reminded that Tempeh must be cooked before being eaten.
While many companies steam it before packaging, others prefer to sell it live.
Check the package so you know.
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Posted by: ClaudineMe on Jul 18, 2009 12:04 PM
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I believe the reason Moslems do not eat pork is that originally it made lots of people sick.
The danger of honey for babies is news to me. I'll definitely warn my friends and relatives. Better be safe than sorry. I knew that sprouts could sometimes be a problem so yes, grow your own.
Bon appetit, bonne sante sans viande ni poisson!
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Posted by: mimsy on Jul 18, 2009 2:11 PM
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I'm wondering- do you have some kind of vendetta against the sprout producers in this country that you'd spread such unsubstantiated drivel?
Oh, and as far as eating raw cookie dough? If you're concerned about raw eggs wreaking havoc in your digestive system, use pasteurized eggs when you make your dough.
I've spent the past 6 years of my life preventing foodborne illness (successfully, I might add)in populations of elderly people and I hold both ServSafe and CDM,CFPP certifications.
I promise not to practice emergency medicine if you'll quit making up lies about the food industry in this country.
... I'm wondering... did mommy force you to eat all your sprouts as a child?
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Posted by: Walt K on Jul 18, 2009 3:32 PM
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USDA and state ag agencies use scare tactics like these to put small farmers, who provide healthy food, out of business, all the while ignoring the dangerous output of agribusiness. (They might need a job from them someday.)
You don't seem to know what you're talking about, nor do you understand the context of the food debate. Respectfully, until you educate yourself a little bit you should STFU.
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Posted by: Dboy on Jul 18, 2009 4:34 PM
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jul 18, 2009 6:19 PM
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The trouble with giving kids honey is that today's parents are giving it to them straight. Back before cough medicine was invented, our parents used to mix it with bourbon and a twist of lemon. A few shots will kill any pathogens, but more importantly, guarantee your infant a peaceful night's sleep.
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Posted by: Biflspud on Jul 18, 2009 9:55 PM
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What makes this a sad attempt at parody, if it even was one, is that there's too much truth in it. All of those 5 were ostensibly risks we assume when consuming (or in the case of honey, feeding) these products. You can get worms from eating raw meat. You can get serious bacterial illness due to to cross contamination of uncooked vegetables. And you can indeed kill your infant children by feeding botulism-containing honey to them. So if this was satire, it ill serves readers because they laugh off these very real risks. If it wasn't satire, then it misses a very real chance to inform the readers meaningfully about the risks inherent in food choices.
Either way, this article was drivel, and took far less time to write than my comments.
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Posted by: neko_sake on Jul 19, 2009 12:16 PM
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Getting parasites from fish is EXTREMELY rare these days. And even more rare if the source of the fish is farmed, which is where a lot of commercial fish is coming from now. Most food poisoning from fish is either because it was not handled properly and was contaminated, or people that eat to much fish tend to accumulate mercury. The vinegar used in sushi tends to have antimicrobial properties.
To say that the sprouts have e coli due to the weather is just ignorant. It comes from animals shitting on the crops. The same reason people got sick from spinach, tomatoes, peppers, etc. Eat at your own risk.
I can't really argue with the raw meat thing, but I will say this . . . our paranoia of germs and bacteria is why our immune systems are not working properly. Lack of exposure has made us lazy. Use it or lose it.
And on the back of every honey container it states that you should not feed raw honey to children under 1. So anyone who does is an idiot.
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Posted by: StanEric on Jul 23, 2009 2:10 AM
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Just curious, about the raw eggs. In some places, people believe that eating raw eggs can energize a person. So, do you think it isn't advisable for them to follow that belief?
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Since then measures may have been taken to make this less possible but is the convenience and variety really worth the risk?
I know I never eat bagged greens because when we have so many other choices my answer to the above question is a resounding "No?"
Now let's talk about the apple juice from China (40% of the U.S. supply) . . . .
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Posted by: bouyant on Jul 18, 2009 1:13 AM
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For example, when is the last time someone in the US contracted that pork neuro thing?
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Posted by: paulmagillsmith on Jul 18, 2009 1:24 AM
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We are taught to fear the 'sell by' dates, and consequently much food in this country gets wasted, when the 'consume by' time is far more important. People are ignorant pansies, and many in the US just don't comprehend when they throw out completely edible & safe food they are probably causing someone thousands of miles away to starve...to death.
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Posted by: Gabba_Gabba_Hey on Jul 18, 2009 2:09 AM
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For instance seed catalogs sell sprouters for $9.99 or so that are perfect for this purpose. Or you just need a set-up where the seeds are soaked from above (daily) and the water collects below. It only takes a few days.
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Posted by: souffrantfleur on Jul 18, 2009 4:39 AM
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Somehow Americans have come to believe that the only acceptable level of risk in life is no risk at all. It's statistical B.S. and freaking boring as hell. We're becoming a nation of risk-averse pussies- unless, of course, we're illegally invading a country for their oil.
As for me, I'll keep growing my own sprouts and eating the occasional, stunningly fabulous beef carpaccio. And drinking from the garden hose.
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Posted by: smadaj on Jul 18, 2009 6:00 AM
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If the stuff in the supermarkets was actually food, which most of it is not, American hospitals would not be sporting "double-wide" wheelchairs, there wouldn't be such a market for SUVs with "captain's chairs" (since we have so many people who can't fit in smaller cars now!) and and it wouldn't be common to see women with rear ends that look like shelves made of 40 pounds of encased jello, or men who can't see their private parts, or even their feet.
Practically the only actual "food" - meaning nutritious stuff to be consumed - is in the produce section (and if you are a carnivore, the meat/fish/dairy section) of your grocery store.
There is nothing but toxic stuff in the soda isle. Ditto the chips and cookies isle. Virtually nothing in the cereal isle, with the exception of a small handful of grain products that are not loaded with high fructose corn syrup and a bunch of chemicals. If there is an organic/natural section, you can find some foods that won't hurt you in one way or another. Most preservatives are bad for you, most food coloring is bad for you. This, alone, wipes out the frozen section and most of the dairy section, ditto the donuts and pastries section. (If you don't make it at home and know what is in it, it's probably not good to ingest too much of it - anything with a shelf-life of who-knows how many months/years is probably not a good "food" source. In fact, a good rule of thumb is that if it doesn't rot, it's not food, so you shouldn't want to challenge your immune or digestive systems with trying to cope with it.)
The quantity of caffeine and sugar being consumed is killing people. The mercury in fish is damaging peoples' brains (and the brains of unborn and nursing children). The antibiotics in meat are at such high levels because with the exception of grazing cattle, the giant meat industry keeps their poor cows in feed lots where the animals stand in feces up to their bellies or necks, and their bodies are covered with suppurating sores that would kill them if not for the high levels of antibiotics coursing through their sick systems - who wants to eat sick or dying animals, but that's what's in your cold cut meats and every other cheap meat - buy one burger for a dollar, get the second one free!
People can get angry when someone posts a notice that the food is bad, but it doesn't make sense to me. Look around, America - people are dying from all of this toxic stuff they are tossing down their throats. When I was a kid it was rare - RARE - to see obese people. Now it's the norm. It's not because obese people are eating gluttonous proportions of food, it's because the food they are eating is not nourishing (sustaining life). It is poisoning. And they eat more and more, trying to get nutrients that are not there.
So, with ample evidence surrounding us that people are unhealthy in the extreme, why do so many people who read a list of five foods that might be wise to avoid, or at least consider, become so enraged?
Why are we defending a food-production system that has been turned into a profit-regardless-of-risks system?
If your grandmother never heard of something, it's probably not food. If you can't pronounce an ingredient, it's probably not good for you, and it could be very bad for you.
It is naive in the extreme to believe that the federal government is watching out for your best interests. They are in the pocket of the major food industry, which is designed to make money, not feed you nutritious food. The government is also governed by the best interests of the pharmaceutical and "health care" industries, both of which make billions off of sick and dying people.
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Posted by: Naoma on Jul 18, 2009 6:37 AM
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ONLY THE FRESHEST SUSHI PLACES WHERE THE CHEF IS
JAPANESE. I KNEW ABOUT THE HONEY. USED TO GROWN MY OWN SPROUTS. AND I DO NOT EAT ANY MEAT.
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Posted by: newsound on Jul 18, 2009 7:37 AM
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A simple reminder on basic food safety and everybody goes running to the hills screaming!
I thought Alternet readers were just a tad more . . . . savvy.
None of you would survive for one second in Japan. Raw fish, eggs and sprouts are staples. They're simply smart enough to know how to handle and prepare them.
I guess some just feel safer eating that over-cooked, greasy Western food. Yuk.
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Posted by: cprcdirector on Jul 18, 2009 7:49 AM
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For those who think the article is intended as satire: perhaps, but don't feed raw honey to your baby. Read about the risks of doing so at http://www.bizzybeehoney.com/inandrawho.html - the National Honey Board's page on infants and raw honey.
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Posted by: Longdream on Jul 18, 2009 8:16 AM
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Actually, the advice he's giving is probably good advice for feeding children, who are more susceptible to food parasites and toxins than adults are, but he forgot to say so.
In a time when peanut paste from a giant food warehouse, which, it turns out, was in an astonishing percentage of peanut-butter-related commercial food, killed and sickened people across the country, I think this very outdated listing doesn't hit the mark.
If we're going to pay attention to something, it should be how our commercially produced food is handled, and where the main ingredients come from.
It does come down to eating locally, and getting away from processed food.
You know, even ten or fifteen years ago a salmonella outbreak was so rare it made national news without sickening people in all fifty states. Is it me, or are contaminated food ingredients becoming a constant problem? What's the difference between the way things were done just a few years ago, and the way they're done now.
Is it only overseas ingredients being used more frequently now? I don't think so. The spinach contaminated with e-coli was grown in California.
The Nestle's Toll House Cookie Dough with e-coli was from a plant in Virginia. That one ended up being a mystery, because they said they were going to change the suppliers of the main ingredients of their product. That earned a giant WTF from me, because there wasn't any information about the suppliers, whether or not they routinely sell e-coli contaminated "main ingredients" all over the country, and whether or not any action was taken to follow up and clean them up, if they were indeed the cause of that outbreak.
Never mind the sushi--odds are it's quite safe. It's what we don't know about our food that will make us sick.
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Posted by: sausage on Jul 18, 2009 8:48 AM
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Posted by: driftwolf on Jul 18, 2009 10:57 AM
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In countries that actually HAVE food safety and strict government regulations all of the above can safely be eaten raw. Look at Japan and France for some examples of how to do it right. In both countries, all of the above are regularly eaten raw with no ill effects on anyone.
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 18, 2009 10:58 AM
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Posted by: soymoon on Jul 18, 2009 11:10 AM
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While most of you probably wouldn't eat it at all,
those that do need to be reminded that Tempeh must be cooked before being eaten.
While many companies steam it before packaging, others prefer to sell it live.
Check the package so you know.
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Posted by: ClaudineMe on Jul 18, 2009 12:04 PM
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I believe the reason Moslems do not eat pork is that originally it made lots of people sick.
The danger of honey for babies is news to me. I'll definitely warn my friends and relatives. Better be safe than sorry. I knew that sprouts could sometimes be a problem so yes, grow your own.
Bon appetit, bonne sante sans viande ni poisson!
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Posted by: mimsy on Jul 18, 2009 2:11 PM
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I'm wondering- do you have some kind of vendetta against the sprout producers in this country that you'd spread such unsubstantiated drivel?
Oh, and as far as eating raw cookie dough? If you're concerned about raw eggs wreaking havoc in your digestive system, use pasteurized eggs when you make your dough.
I've spent the past 6 years of my life preventing foodborne illness (successfully, I might add)in populations of elderly people and I hold both ServSafe and CDM,CFPP certifications.
I promise not to practice emergency medicine if you'll quit making up lies about the food industry in this country.
... I'm wondering... did mommy force you to eat all your sprouts as a child?
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Posted by: Walt K on Jul 18, 2009 3:32 PM
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USDA and state ag agencies use scare tactics like these to put small farmers, who provide healthy food, out of business, all the while ignoring the dangerous output of agribusiness. (They might need a job from them someday.)
You don't seem to know what you're talking about, nor do you understand the context of the food debate. Respectfully, until you educate yourself a little bit you should STFU.
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Posted by: Dboy on Jul 18, 2009 4:34 PM
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jul 18, 2009 6:19 PM
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The trouble with giving kids honey is that today's parents are giving it to them straight. Back before cough medicine was invented, our parents used to mix it with bourbon and a twist of lemon. A few shots will kill any pathogens, but more importantly, guarantee your infant a peaceful night's sleep.
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Posted by: Biflspud on Jul 18, 2009 9:55 PM
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What makes this a sad attempt at parody, if it even was one, is that there's too much truth in it. All of those 5 were ostensibly risks we assume when consuming (or in the case of honey, feeding) these products. You can get worms from eating raw meat. You can get serious bacterial illness due to to cross contamination of uncooked vegetables. And you can indeed kill your infant children by feeding botulism-containing honey to them. So if this was satire, it ill serves readers because they laugh off these very real risks. If it wasn't satire, then it misses a very real chance to inform the readers meaningfully about the risks inherent in food choices.
Either way, this article was drivel, and took far less time to write than my comments.
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Posted by: herronsmith on Jul 19, 2009 3:21 AM
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Posted by: neko_sake on Jul 19, 2009 12:16 PM
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Getting parasites from fish is EXTREMELY rare these days. And even more rare if the source of the fish is farmed, which is where a lot of commercial fish is coming from now. Most food poisoning from fish is either because it was not handled properly and was contaminated, or people that eat to much fish tend to accumulate mercury. The vinegar used in sushi tends to have antimicrobial properties.
To say that the sprouts have e coli due to the weather is just ignorant. It comes from animals shitting on the crops. The same reason people got sick from spinach, tomatoes, peppers, etc. Eat at your own risk.
I can't really argue with the raw meat thing, but I will say this . . . our paranoia of germs and bacteria is why our immune systems are not working properly. Lack of exposure has made us lazy. Use it or lose it.
And on the back of every honey container it states that you should not feed raw honey to children under 1. So anyone who does is an idiot.
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Posted by: StanEric on Jul 23, 2009 2:10 AM
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Just curious, about the raw eggs. In some places, people believe that eating raw eggs can energize a person. So, do you think it isn't advisable for them to follow that belief?
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Posted by: hackbut on Jul 25, 2009 8:13 PM
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Since then measures may have been taken to make this less possible but is the convenience and variety really worth the risk?
I know I never eat bagged greens because when we have so many other choices my answer to the above question is a resounding "No?"
Now let's talk about the apple juice from China (40% of the U.S. supply) . . . .
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