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I Would Likely Be Dead by Now if it Wasn't for One Thing ... Health Insurance
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Editor’s Note: Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern underwent a successful medical procedure to open a clogged artery near his heart.
Dear family and friends,
At first I thought the BEFORE picture of the arteries around my heart may have been doctored. There it was big as life...or imminent death -- the circumflex artery was 90 to 99 percent blocked.
(Hadn’t heard “circumflex” since studying classical Greek. It’s what we called the mark placed over long vowels; and, sure enough, that artery had the same form as that mark.)
Turns out the picture was not doctored. But, happily, I was -- by an excellent cardiologist who performed a cardio catheterization and emplaced a stent to unclog the artery. The AFTER picture showed a far happier circumflex with blood flowing freely through it.
I have not tried it yet, but I'm looking forward now to walking up that big hill from the Metro station without the minor distress. That was the only symptom I had had....and only twice, and both times the distress went away quickly.
No pressure on chest, no trouble breathing, no sweating, no dizziness; no numbness in arm or elsewhere. Just some quickly passing discomfort.
I was "sure" enough that it was nothing serious that I know I would never have gone to the doctor, IF I DID NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.
And so, by now I could well have been a heart attack victim -- and maybe dead -- IF I DID NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE ... which some 50 million of our brothers and sisters in this wealthy country DO NOT HAVE!
Medical insurance occupies part of my knapsack of unearned privilege, the knapsack about which I am barely conscious as it adheres to me like glue.
Perhaps it's my own medical emergencies over the past year and a half -- lymphoma in 2008, and then the almost-out-of-business artery -- that have made me more conscious of the scandal that our country does not treat all as "created equal" when it comes to access medical care. And I think this applies in spades to before-it-is-too-late diagnostic testing, without which illnesses like mine would have remained undiagnosed and untreated.
To be blunt about it: Whether from the relatively symptom-less lymphoma (only discovered when the tumor was the size of a large orange), or as a result of the "minor distress" blockage in my artery, I most likely would be dead now -- the only saving grace being that you wouldn't have to read this.
The lymphoma has been in remission for 10 months, and the oncologist -- in an atypical burst of guarded optimism -- has said it may even be cured! And if I regularly take the five heart-related prescriptions written for me on Tuesday, the stint should continue to do its work unstintingly, the circumflex and less circular arteries should keep the heart working, and I can die from something else!
This is my second wake-up call. (Thick Irishmen need at least two.) Maybe one needs to be affected in a personal way to gain some sense of what having no health insurance actually means.
I'm going to do all I can to promote single-payer health insurance as the only real way to get everyone covered, and urge you to do the same. Our son the doctor heartily agrees with the sizable majority of physicians who believe that single-payer is by far the best solution.
We're supposed to care about our brothers and sisters in this great country of ours, right?
No one should have to think twice before seeking needed medical help ... even after just one seemingly paltry symptom.
Thanks for your prayers and the good vibes you have sent along. Looks as if I’ll be around for a while more. Let's see if we can get medical insurance for ALL Americans.
In truth and justice,
Ray
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Posted by: lalala on Jun 20, 2009 2:19 AM
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I am lucky that you got the help you needed.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Jun 20, 2009 3:34 AM
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Hard to fathum how we could have sunk so low among nations?
We need to correct this shamefull failure now.
Dr.Rick Lippin
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Posted by: missmoon on Jun 20, 2009 5:52 AM
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I love the NHS and still carry my NHS card. Come on America, insurance for all!!!!!!
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Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Jun 20, 2009 6:08 AM
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There are others who truly believe that those who are not particularly prosperous or lucky should be further punished by not providing them these basic necessities. This is truly a fundamental difference in outlook and it is unlikely that Obama can find a satisfactory way to triangulate between them.
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Posted by: PaulK on Jun 20, 2009 8:58 AM
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Oh, that part about going to a doctor! No, I don't have that part. I get my teeth cleaned at a student dental clinic, tho.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Jun 20, 2009 9:22 AM
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Single payer healthcare would be excellent but Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc ... are too busy ensuring themselves major defeat in 2010 and 2012 because like Billy Tauzin, I'm sure Big Insurance and/or Big Pharma has lucrative offers awaiting them.
First thing that must be done is uniting to ABOLISH THE CIA. Even if single payer passes, the funding is short but cutting down big time on Big Military spending which would including abolishing the CIA would go a long ways to actually ensuring true homeland security. Furthermore, as a defense contractor, I know very well that military spending means nothing to both the contractors and federal employees. As a true patriot, the true form of defending a nation is providing universal healthcare. It may not be written in the Constitution but neither is the CIA or DOD or for that matter Corporate America. The USA has been and still remains the biggest laughing stock in the world that spends recklessly and yet yields nothing in return except for the elites while most of the other industrial nations that carry universal healthcare and don't ban Cannabis are not too surprisingly doing great.
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Posted by: JSquercia on Jun 20, 2009 10:27 AM
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I have often said that most people love their Health Insurance until the have to use it . It is ONLY then that the gaps show up.
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Posted by: kattmanduu on Jun 20, 2009 10:28 AM
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1. Is your "insurance" a private policy you purchased on your own or is it one you got from your government service?
2. Can a person on minimum wage afford your insurance policy and still be able to eat, pay the rent and all the utility bills?
It's safe to say that a majority of all the private for profit insurance companies only cover about 30% of the human body that doesn't
already have something wrong with it and still expect to be paid for all that non-coverage.
America needs a real national health care system like a majority of it's competitors in Europe have for all their citizens not just one that covers the rich and the over-paid.
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Posted by: lsmart on Jun 20, 2009 11:12 AM
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Our VA hospitals are run by the government and they are filthy, sub-par and disgraceful.
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Posted by: willymack on Jun 20, 2009 11:15 AM
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We continue to ignore what promises to be an ecological catastrophe by resisting needed changes and denying there's a problem.
We're indifferent to the crying need for a more egalitarian and HUMANE society, preferring instead to do nothing and hope for the best.
Between forty and fifty MILLION people have NO health care coverage, yet there's no hue and cry, except from those pitifully few with the courage and moral outrage to speak out against it.
We let criminals disenfranchise us by stealing two elections, and doing NOTHING about it.
We continue to allow the brutal and illegal occupations of two innocent and helpless nations which benefits only the banksters, war profiteers and crooked politicians who enable the continuance of these crimes.
The neocons and rethug stooges ask where the money for universal health care will come, while at the same time, somehow find ten billion dollars a month for the Iraq and Afghanistan scams.
The criminals responsible for 911, ecological rape, two illegal "wars", treason, war crimes, and war profiteering have yet to be prosecuted and brought to justice.
All this has hapened and is happening with hardly a murmer from our morally dead people. Shame on us.
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Posted by: photon's feather on Jun 20, 2009 12:24 PM
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Senator Bernie Sanders
Under Highlights, you can click on to hear a statement by Senator Sanders. (It's one of several.)
Under Recent Business (bottom left), click on the link to 'Sign the Petition.'
Date is 06/16/2009. It's already at the bottom of the list: if you wait too long, you'll have to use the Archives link.
After you've signed it, please forward it to as many people as possible.
I was directed to it through the most recent edition of the Bernie Buzz newsletter.
(You don't have to live in Vermont to sign up for it.)
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Posted by: Sgellero on Jun 20, 2009 2:19 PM
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Costs $115/month. About the same as your iPhone bill monthly. And it's IRREVOCABLE if premiums are paid.
Get your priorities straight
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Posted by: lfish on Jun 21, 2009 1:47 AM
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After a while, I was afraid to go to the doctor for fear that he would find something and I would have nothing. The problem is that most people don't see this until they get old, sick or are self-employed. If you are young and health, you think the system is great. Profit-base health care is nightmare.
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Posted by: reelman on Jun 26, 2009 9:27 AM
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If private insurers say that the marketplace provides the best quality health care; if they tell us that they’re offering a good deal, then why is it that the government, which they say can’t run anything, suddenly is going to drive them out of business? That’s not logical.”
–President Barack Obama, June 2009
CRAWFISH NOTE: First assumption…YOU are stupid. You don’t realize that the gov-meant never needs a profit like private insurers. You don’t realize the gov-meant is the #1 interference to a FREE marketplace. You don’t realize there is no reason for employers to keep private insurers when they can dumb all costs and such onto the gov-meant.
You don’t realize the promoters of national healthcare have not yet shown voters a single country model to brag about. You don’t realize the gov-meant track record underestimates by 300-500% most every big program so they can sell us more gov-meant.
You don’t realize that MediCare, MediCade and VA hospitals are the real models of gov-meant lies and substandard care. You don’t realize that the quoted “polls” are done by biased pole cats with weighted sampling. You don’t realize that there must be dozens of free or nearly free reforms completely, pursposefully ignored by gov-meant.
You don’t (yet) realize Obama, the strident radical secular socialist… is a convincing pathological liar…but you will learn that soon enough.
(Did I mention covering 12 million illegal aliens is hush hush?)
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Posted by: lalala on Jun 20, 2009 2:19 AM
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I am lucky that you got the help you needed.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Jun 20, 2009 3:34 AM
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Hard to fathum how we could have sunk so low among nations?
We need to correct this shamefull failure now.
Dr.Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
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Posted by: missmoon on Jun 20, 2009 5:52 AM
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I love the NHS and still carry my NHS card. Come on America, insurance for all!!!!!!
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Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Jun 20, 2009 6:08 AM
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There are others who truly believe that those who are not particularly prosperous or lucky should be further punished by not providing them these basic necessities. This is truly a fundamental difference in outlook and it is unlikely that Obama can find a satisfactory way to triangulate between them.
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Posted by: PaulK on Jun 20, 2009 8:58 AM
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Oh, that part about going to a doctor! No, I don't have that part. I get my teeth cleaned at a student dental clinic, tho.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Jun 20, 2009 9:22 AM
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Single payer healthcare would be excellent but Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc ... are too busy ensuring themselves major defeat in 2010 and 2012 because like Billy Tauzin, I'm sure Big Insurance and/or Big Pharma has lucrative offers awaiting them.
First thing that must be done is uniting to ABOLISH THE CIA. Even if single payer passes, the funding is short but cutting down big time on Big Military spending which would including abolishing the CIA would go a long ways to actually ensuring true homeland security. Furthermore, as a defense contractor, I know very well that military spending means nothing to both the contractors and federal employees. As a true patriot, the true form of defending a nation is providing universal healthcare. It may not be written in the Constitution but neither is the CIA or DOD or for that matter Corporate America. The USA has been and still remains the biggest laughing stock in the world that spends recklessly and yet yields nothing in return except for the elites while most of the other industrial nations that carry universal healthcare and don't ban Cannabis are not too surprisingly doing great.
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Posted by: JSquercia on Jun 20, 2009 10:27 AM
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I have often said that most people love their Health Insurance until the have to use it . It is ONLY then that the gaps show up.
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Posted by: kattmanduu on Jun 20, 2009 10:28 AM
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1. Is your "insurance" a private policy you purchased on your own or is it one you got from your government service?
2. Can a person on minimum wage afford your insurance policy and still be able to eat, pay the rent and all the utility bills?
It's safe to say that a majority of all the private for profit insurance companies only cover about 30% of the human body that doesn't
already have something wrong with it and still expect to be paid for all that non-coverage.
America needs a real national health care system like a majority of it's competitors in Europe have for all their citizens not just one that covers the rich and the over-paid.
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» It wasn't snarky.
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Posted by: lsmart on Jun 20, 2009 11:12 AM
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Our VA hospitals are run by the government and they are filthy, sub-par and disgraceful.
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Posted by: willymack on Jun 20, 2009 11:15 AM
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We continue to ignore what promises to be an ecological catastrophe by resisting needed changes and denying there's a problem.
We're indifferent to the crying need for a more egalitarian and HUMANE society, preferring instead to do nothing and hope for the best.
Between forty and fifty MILLION people have NO health care coverage, yet there's no hue and cry, except from those pitifully few with the courage and moral outrage to speak out against it.
We let criminals disenfranchise us by stealing two elections, and doing NOTHING about it.
We continue to allow the brutal and illegal occupations of two innocent and helpless nations which benefits only the banksters, war profiteers and crooked politicians who enable the continuance of these crimes.
The neocons and rethug stooges ask where the money for universal health care will come, while at the same time, somehow find ten billion dollars a month for the Iraq and Afghanistan scams.
The criminals responsible for 911, ecological rape, two illegal "wars", treason, war crimes, and war profiteering have yet to be prosecuted and brought to justice.
All this has hapened and is happening with hardly a murmer from our morally dead people. Shame on us.
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Posted by: photon's feather on Jun 20, 2009 12:24 PM
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Senator Bernie Sanders
Under Highlights, you can click on to hear a statement by Senator Sanders. (It's one of several.)
Under Recent Business (bottom left), click on the link to 'Sign the Petition.'
Date is 06/16/2009. It's already at the bottom of the list: if you wait too long, you'll have to use the Archives link.
After you've signed it, please forward it to as many people as possible.
I was directed to it through the most recent edition of the Bernie Buzz newsletter.
(You don't have to live in Vermont to sign up for it.)
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Posted by: Sgellero on Jun 20, 2009 2:19 PM
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Costs $115/month. About the same as your iPhone bill monthly. And it's IRREVOCABLE if premiums are paid.
Get your priorities straight
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» I pay 30$ per month no deductable and no billing period for complete coverage
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» Sicko?
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» NONSENSE!!
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» Oh yeah?
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» All the more reason...
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» How about this?
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» here's what to do
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» gellero1 got banned but we know who you are. Just like the idiot Honky.
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» Not a chance.
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» Unless of course you're sick
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Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jun 20, 2009 4:32 PM
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» RE: BE RESPONSIBILE FOR YOURSELF IS CRAP. MY WIFE HAS LUPUS,
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» RE: BE RESPONSIBILE FOR YOURSELF IS CRAP. MY WIFE HAS LUPUS,
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Posted by: Walt K on Jun 21, 2009 12:10 AM
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Posted by: lfish on Jun 21, 2009 1:47 AM
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After a while, I was afraid to go to the doctor for fear that he would find something and I would have nothing. The problem is that most people don't see this until they get old, sick or are self-employed. If you are young and health, you think the system is great. Profit-base health care is nightmare.
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» RE: ven if you've got health insurance
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Posted by: reelman on Jun 26, 2009 9:27 AM
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If private insurers say that the marketplace provides the best quality health care; if they tell us that they’re offering a good deal, then why is it that the government, which they say can’t run anything, suddenly is going to drive them out of business? That’s not logical.”
–President Barack Obama, June 2009
CRAWFISH NOTE: First assumption…YOU are stupid. You don’t realize that the gov-meant never needs a profit like private insurers. You don’t realize the gov-meant is the #1 interference to a FREE marketplace. You don’t realize there is no reason for employers to keep private insurers when they can dumb all costs and such onto the gov-meant.
You don’t realize the promoters of national healthcare have not yet shown voters a single country model to brag about. You don’t realize the gov-meant track record underestimates by 300-500% most every big program so they can sell us more gov-meant.
You don’t realize that MediCare, MediCade and VA hospitals are the real models of gov-meant lies and substandard care. You don’t realize that the quoted “polls” are done by biased pole cats with weighted sampling. You don’t realize that there must be dozens of free or nearly free reforms completely, pursposefully ignored by gov-meant.
You don’t (yet) realize Obama, the strident radical secular socialist… is a convincing pathological liar…but you will learn that soon enough.
(Did I mention covering 12 million illegal aliens is hush hush?)
http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish
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