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Jonathan Safran Foer's 'Eating Animals' Book Will Fundamentally Change the Way You Think About Food
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If ever there was a book that could profoundly affect our lives at the most fundamental level, this one is it. I loved Jonathan Safran Foer's novels (Everything is Illuminated, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close); they were glorious to read and get lost in. But his new non-fiction kindles something more: it is somewhat of an awakening, and it just might tip us farther into what is being called the next great social movement of our time: eating consciously.
Eating Animals takes a bold and fresh approach to our most important relationship with the world around us -- our food. The originality of the thinking and depth of research establishes Foer as a major player in the national discussion of the ethics of eating. He is the Michael Pollan of a younger generation: grittier and more daring, more insightful and decisive. And as we would expect from Foer, the stories he tells explode off the page and into our hearts.
Foer takes us alongside him as he bungles through undercover investigations and into the hidden world of today's industrial farming. We find out that turkeys have been so genetically modified they are not capable of sexual reproduction. We learn that the chickens on American's plates have been bred to grow so large so fast that their mere genetics destines them to suffering. We learn that "free range" means next to nothing and why it's fish and chicken you want to most avoid.
The book is a case against factory farming, but we don't hear only the bad news about animal agriculture. Foer also takes us to the most humane and sustainable animal farms in the nation. We get to hear a dizzying variety of voices: factory farmers, slaughterhouse workers, animal activists, a turkey farmer who apologizes to his animals, a vegetarian cattle rancher, and a vegan helping to build a slaughterhouse.
Part of the appeal of the book is the real-life characters we meet and the new landscape of animal protection and food advocacy that Foer plugs us into. He has us meet the head of the nation's largest cooperative of family-owned pig farms, gives us a fresh perspective on the ever-controversial PETA as it approaches its 30th year and introduces us to exciting new groups like Farm Forward that are building unique coalitions with animal activists, small farmers, and sustainability advocates.
While Foer makes a strong case for vegetarianism, he gives dissenting voices a place and never forgets that the stories we tell about food are always about more than what we eat. "Stories about food are stories about us -- our history and our values."
Foer is quite fair to the "humane" animal farmers who he writes about appreciatively. In the end, he leaves us opposed to factory farming as something beneath human dignity, but stops short of an explicit case against all meat. His opposition to factory farming appears to be his central message, but I think he accomplishes something much less modest: For careful readers, the book offers an indictment of all meat. Virtually all of the "humane" producers he discusses mutilate animals without pain relief and treat them more as commodities than living beings. And as Foer himself says, "Every farm, like everything, has flaws, is subject to accidents, sometimes doesn't work as it should. Life overflows with imperfections, but some imperfections matter more than others. How imperfect must animal farming and slaughter be before they are too imperfect? Different people will draw the line in different places... But for me, for now - for my family now - my concerns about the reality of what meat is and has become are enough to make me give it up altogether."
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Posted by: Comrade Rutherford on Nov 4, 2009 6:08 AM
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They hired a mobile husband-wife team to do the 'processing'. 3 chickens go in and 10 minutes later three ready-to-eat naked and gutted birds come out (and straight into the freezer). I recorded the entire process.
We are going to do another shoot where we compare their home-grown meat chickens to the store-bought genetic monsters, a side-by-side comparison.
If you are going to eat chickens, this is the best way to do it. I ate one last night and there is simply no comparison between these real birds and the franken-monsters that you get at the supermarket. Real chickens have great flavor, are not chewy, and the meat falls off the bone.
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Posted by: vasumurti on Nov 4, 2009 7:04 AM
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"I think as long as human beings are so violent towards animals, there will be war," he argued. "It might sound absurd, but if you really think about the situation it all makes sense. When there's this absolute lack of sensitivity where life is concerned, there will always be war."
Back in 1985, Morrissey struggled to articulate a dualistic persona with a classic example of verbal doublethink: "Personally, I'm an incurably peaceable character. But where does that get you? Nowhere. You have to be violent...It seems to me now that when you try to change things in a peaceable manner, you're actually wasting your time and you're laughed out of court," he argued. "...the only way we can get rid of such things as the meat industry, and other things like nuclear weapons, is by giving people a taste of their own medicine."
Ask Morrissey about the terrorist bombing of butcher shops in England, and he still coldly replies: "One dead butcher isn't such a great loss."
Peter Singer warned about this kind of thinking in Animal Liberation: "We may be convinced that a person who is abusing animals is entirely callous and insensitive; but we lower ourselves to that level if we physically harm or threaten physical harm to that person. Violence can only breed more violence...The strength of the case for Animal Liberation is its ethical commitment. We occupy the high moral ground and to abandon it is to play into the hands of those who would oppose us."
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Posted by: sherry on Nov 4, 2009 7:12 AM
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He's a precious gift to American literature and his characters are precious gifts to the reader.
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In other words, instead of asking "How imperfect is something before its too imperfect?", a question often asked by anti-death penalty activists, perhaps we should be asking, "At what cost do we eat?"
That is to say: can we accept the cost of animals feeling some pain before death? can we accept the cost of animals living in a life of pain before dying?
I, personally and for my family, disagree with where the author draws the line. I can accept the cost (financially and morally) of eating meat, but so-called "humane" meat from "non-traditional" animals.
I try to stick to deer, bison and wild birds. Monocultures like corn, soy, beef, pork and chicken sustain factory farms, produce great environmental costs, a reduce biodiversity.
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Posted by: smf1403 on Nov 4, 2009 8:18 AM
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I want to believe that we could be better.
I want to know that my life means something and that I make a difference, that I am not just here.
Part of that difference is standing up for those who do not have a voice and protecting those who are caused to suffer at the hand of others.
Having endured an abusive childhood, I know what it feels like to be confined, to suffer, to feel afraid.
I don't want to inflict that on any being and I will not stay silent while I know it is happening.
I protect animals out of a shared feeling of wanting to be free; free from suffering, free from being confined, free from fear, free from someone taking my life.
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Half the world's population does not receive an adequate amount of food to eat. Ten to twenty million die annually of hunger and its effects. The Institute for Food and Development Policy reports that, "Forty thousand children starve to death on this planet every day," or one child every two seconds.
The livestock population of the United States today consumes enough grain and soybeans to feed over five times the entire human population of the country. We feed these animals over 80% of the corn we grow, and over 95% of the oats. Less than half the harvested agricultural acreage in the United States is used to grow food for people. Most of it is used to grow livestock feed.
Ronald J. Sider of Evangelicals for Social Action, in his 1977 book, Rich Christians in an Age of Hunger, pointed out that 220 million Americans were eating enough food (largely because of the high consumption of grain-fed livestock) to feed over one billion people in the poorer countries.
The world's cattle alone, not to mention pigs and chickens, consume a quantity of food equal to the caloric needs of 8.7 billion people. It takes 16 pounds of grain to produce one pound of beef. According to Department of Agriculture statistics, one acre of land can grow 20,000 pounds of potatoes. That same acre of land, if used to grow cattlefeed, can produce less than 165 pounds of beef.
In his book, The Hungry Planet, Georg Bergstrom points out that protein-starved underdeveloped nations export more protein to wealthy nations than they receive. He calls this "the protein swindle." Ninety percent of the world's fish meal catch, for example, is exported to rich countries. One-third of Africa's peanut crop winds up in the stomachs of European livestock. Half the world's cereal crop is fed to livestock and the United States annually imports one million tons of vegetable protein from Third World nations--just to feed its farm animals.
Bergstrom writes: "Sometimes one wonders how many Americans and Western Europeans have grasped the fact that quite a few of their beef steaks, quarts of milk, dozens of eggs, and hundreds of broilers are the result, not of their agriculture, but of the approximately two million metric tons of protein, mostly of high quality, which astute Western businessmen channel away from the needy and hungry."
Jeremy Rifkin, author of a dozen influential books and President of the Foundation on Economic Trends, writes in his 1992 bestseller Beyond Beef:
"Cattle and other livestock are devouring much of the grain produced on the planet. It need be emphasized that this is a new phenomenon, unlike anything ever experienced before.
"Contrary to popular belief, the poor are getting poorer each year...Increased poverty has meant increased malnutrition. On the African continent, nearly one in every four human beings is malnourished. In Latin America, nearly one out of every seven people goes to bed hungry each night. In Asia and the Pacific, 28 percent of the people border on starvation, experiencing the gnawing pain of a perpetual hunger."
"In the Near East, one in ten people is underfed. Chronic hunger now affects upwards of 1.3 billion people, according to the world Health Organization--a statistic all the more striking in a world where one third of all the grain produced is being fed to cattle and other livestock. Never before in human history has such a large percentage of our species--nearly 25 percent--been malnourished.
"The transition of world agriculture from food grain to feed grains represents an...evil whose consequences may be far greater and longer lasting than any past examples of violence inflicted by men against their fellow human beings."
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Posted by: Paul_C on Nov 4, 2009 7:12 PM
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It is the exact same process that allows all of the great wrongs of this earth, whether slavery, genocide, religious war, nationalistic war and now economic and resource war.
Most people have a very poor imagination and are literally unable or unwilling to feel compassion for beings even superficially different from themselves, such as other humans with different color skin or a funny accent. With these people just forget about trying to get them to empathize with animals.
And then there is institutionalized religion and its teaching that animals were placed on this earth for our amusement. That sounds harsh but I have talked to so many of these people and when push comes to shove this is what they truly believe in their heart - that animals are no more sentient than a pile of rocks, even insisting that they do not feel pain "like we do".
There is a lot of posturing by these folks but as I say, for the average American this is how they feel about animals.
Here in nutjob central, Ohio, they just overwhelmingly passed a Constitutional Amendment that allows big agri-business bosses to sit in judgment of their own practices and treatment of their livestock - no interference from state government is allowed and the state must enforce what they decide. This was quickly put together in response to The Humane Society's success in several states to require very minimal humane standards, such as allowing the animal enough room to turn around - I kid you not, this was too much for the "good people of Ohio" to allow!
I feel like I am trapped in some kind of zombie hell in the Midwest, USofA...
And so this country goes...
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: luanetodd on Nov 5, 2009 10:19 AM
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"Without animals land cannot renew itself" is a concept the vegetarians do not understand.
Grasses and related grazing plants provide invaluable tools for land conservation(holding the soil in place) while growing a quality food source.
Grasses and grazers evolved together and need each other.
Ruminants are the original vegetarians and they can utilize vegetable matter that humans cannot, turning it into good food for humans.
We probably ought to stop thinking that Nature made a mistake when designing the system.
Sir Albert Howard, recognized as the leader in the organic, sustainable agriculture concept and the inspiration to J.R. Rodale, also noted in the early 1900's that "Nature never attempts to farm without animals". His thesis included the nutrient return to the system that only animals can provide in a way that rebuilds fertility over the long term.
If we don't relearn the techniques Nature developed to keep the land productive we will surely starve when our petroleum based ag. system crashes due to lack of petroleum.
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Posted by: Comrade Rutherford on Nov 4, 2009 6:08 AM
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They hired a mobile husband-wife team to do the 'processing'. 3 chickens go in and 10 minutes later three ready-to-eat naked and gutted birds come out (and straight into the freezer). I recorded the entire process.
We are going to do another shoot where we compare their home-grown meat chickens to the store-bought genetic monsters, a side-by-side comparison.
If you are going to eat chickens, this is the best way to do it. I ate one last night and there is simply no comparison between these real birds and the franken-monsters that you get at the supermarket. Real chickens have great flavor, are not chewy, and the meat falls off the bone.
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Posted by: vasumurti on Nov 4, 2009 7:04 AM
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"I think as long as human beings are so violent towards animals, there will be war," he argued. "It might sound absurd, but if you really think about the situation it all makes sense. When there's this absolute lack of sensitivity where life is concerned, there will always be war."
Back in 1985, Morrissey struggled to articulate a dualistic persona with a classic example of verbal doublethink: "Personally, I'm an incurably peaceable character. But where does that get you? Nowhere. You have to be violent...It seems to me now that when you try to change things in a peaceable manner, you're actually wasting your time and you're laughed out of court," he argued. "...the only way we can get rid of such things as the meat industry, and other things like nuclear weapons, is by giving people a taste of their own medicine."
Ask Morrissey about the terrorist bombing of butcher shops in England, and he still coldly replies: "One dead butcher isn't such a great loss."
Peter Singer warned about this kind of thinking in Animal Liberation: "We may be convinced that a person who is abusing animals is entirely callous and insensitive; but we lower ourselves to that level if we physically harm or threaten physical harm to that person. Violence can only breed more violence...The strength of the case for Animal Liberation is its ethical commitment. We occupy the high moral ground and to abandon it is to play into the hands of those who would oppose us."
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Posted by: sherry on Nov 4, 2009 7:12 AM
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He's a precious gift to American literature and his characters are precious gifts to the reader.
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Posted by: ffrf.org on Nov 4, 2009 7:38 AM
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In other words, instead of asking "How imperfect is something before its too imperfect?", a question often asked by anti-death penalty activists, perhaps we should be asking, "At what cost do we eat?"
That is to say: can we accept the cost of animals feeling some pain before death? can we accept the cost of animals living in a life of pain before dying?
I, personally and for my family, disagree with where the author draws the line. I can accept the cost (financially and morally) of eating meat, but so-called "humane" meat from "non-traditional" animals.
I try to stick to deer, bison and wild birds. Monocultures like corn, soy, beef, pork and chicken sustain factory farms, produce great environmental costs, a reduce biodiversity.
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Posted by: smf1403 on Nov 4, 2009 8:18 AM
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I want to believe that we could be better.
I want to know that my life means something and that I make a difference, that I am not just here.
Part of that difference is standing up for those who do not have a voice and protecting those who are caused to suffer at the hand of others.
Having endured an abusive childhood, I know what it feels like to be confined, to suffer, to feel afraid.
I don't want to inflict that on any being and I will not stay silent while I know it is happening.
I protect animals out of a shared feeling of wanting to be free; free from suffering, free from being confined, free from fear, free from someone taking my life.
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Posted by: vasumurti on Nov 4, 2009 12:47 PM
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Half the world's population does not receive an adequate amount of food to eat. Ten to twenty million die annually of hunger and its effects. The Institute for Food and Development Policy reports that, "Forty thousand children starve to death on this planet every day," or one child every two seconds.
The livestock population of the United States today consumes enough grain and soybeans to feed over five times the entire human population of the country. We feed these animals over 80% of the corn we grow, and over 95% of the oats. Less than half the harvested agricultural acreage in the United States is used to grow food for people. Most of it is used to grow livestock feed.
Ronald J. Sider of Evangelicals for Social Action, in his 1977 book, Rich Christians in an Age of Hunger, pointed out that 220 million Americans were eating enough food (largely because of the high consumption of grain-fed livestock) to feed over one billion people in the poorer countries.
The world's cattle alone, not to mention pigs and chickens, consume a quantity of food equal to the caloric needs of 8.7 billion people. It takes 16 pounds of grain to produce one pound of beef. According to Department of Agriculture statistics, one acre of land can grow 20,000 pounds of potatoes. That same acre of land, if used to grow cattlefeed, can produce less than 165 pounds of beef.
In his book, The Hungry Planet, Georg Bergstrom points out that protein-starved underdeveloped nations export more protein to wealthy nations than they receive. He calls this "the protein swindle." Ninety percent of the world's fish meal catch, for example, is exported to rich countries. One-third of Africa's peanut crop winds up in the stomachs of European livestock. Half the world's cereal crop is fed to livestock and the United States annually imports one million tons of vegetable protein from Third World nations--just to feed its farm animals.
Bergstrom writes: "Sometimes one wonders how many Americans and Western Europeans have grasped the fact that quite a few of their beef steaks, quarts of milk, dozens of eggs, and hundreds of broilers are the result, not of their agriculture, but of the approximately two million metric tons of protein, mostly of high quality, which astute Western businessmen channel away from the needy and hungry."
Jeremy Rifkin, author of a dozen influential books and President of the Foundation on Economic Trends, writes in his 1992 bestseller Beyond Beef:
"Cattle and other livestock are devouring much of the grain produced on the planet. It need be emphasized that this is a new phenomenon, unlike anything ever experienced before.
"Contrary to popular belief, the poor are getting poorer each year...Increased poverty has meant increased malnutrition. On the African continent, nearly one in every four human beings is malnourished. In Latin America, nearly one out of every seven people goes to bed hungry each night. In Asia and the Pacific, 28 percent of the people border on starvation, experiencing the gnawing pain of a perpetual hunger."
"In the Near East, one in ten people is underfed. Chronic hunger now affects upwards of 1.3 billion people, according to the world Health Organization--a statistic all the more striking in a world where one third of all the grain produced is being fed to cattle and other livestock. Never before in human history has such a large percentage of our species--nearly 25 percent--been malnourished.
"The transition of world agriculture from food grain to feed grains represents an...evil whose consequences may be far greater and longer lasting than any past examples of violence inflicted by men against their fellow human beings."
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It is the exact same process that allows all of the great wrongs of this earth, whether slavery, genocide, religious war, nationalistic war and now economic and resource war.
Most people have a very poor imagination and are literally unable or unwilling to feel compassion for beings even superficially different from themselves, such as other humans with different color skin or a funny accent. With these people just forget about trying to get them to empathize with animals.
And then there is institutionalized religion and its teaching that animals were placed on this earth for our amusement. That sounds harsh but I have talked to so many of these people and when push comes to shove this is what they truly believe in their heart - that animals are no more sentient than a pile of rocks, even insisting that they do not feel pain "like we do".
There is a lot of posturing by these folks but as I say, for the average American this is how they feel about animals.
Here in nutjob central, Ohio, they just overwhelmingly passed a Constitutional Amendment that allows big agri-business bosses to sit in judgment of their own practices and treatment of their livestock - no interference from state government is allowed and the state must enforce what they decide. This was quickly put together in response to The Humane Society's success in several states to require very minimal humane standards, such as allowing the animal enough room to turn around - I kid you not, this was too much for the "good people of Ohio" to allow!
I feel like I am trapped in some kind of zombie hell in the Midwest, USofA...
And so this country goes...
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: luanetodd on Nov 5, 2009 10:19 AM
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"Without animals land cannot renew itself" is a concept the vegetarians do not understand.
Grasses and related grazing plants provide invaluable tools for land conservation(holding the soil in place) while growing a quality food source.
Grasses and grazers evolved together and need each other.
Ruminants are the original vegetarians and they can utilize vegetable matter that humans cannot, turning it into good food for humans.
We probably ought to stop thinking that Nature made a mistake when designing the system.
Sir Albert Howard, recognized as the leader in the organic, sustainable agriculture concept and the inspiration to J.R. Rodale, also noted in the early 1900's that "Nature never attempts to farm without animals". His thesis included the nutrient return to the system that only animals can provide in a way that rebuilds fertility over the long term.
If we don't relearn the techniques Nature developed to keep the land productive we will surely starve when our petroleum based ag. system crashes due to lack of petroleum.
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