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Van Jones: We Can't Drill Our Way Out of Our Energy Problems

By Van Jones, AlterNet. Posted September 20, 2008.


In an electrifying speech, Van Jones explains that we have to invent and invest our way out of the economic and environmental crises.
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The following speech was given at Netroots Nation 2008 in Austin, Texas.

I have a little bit of whiplash. Thirty-six hours ago I was in the Arctic with Jimmy Carter. This is not a joke, you all. (Laughter) It sounds like a joke, right? You hear about the black guy in the Arctic with Jimmy Carter? No, I was really ... (Laughter)

I was really in the Arctic, man, the abominable snow Negro. No, I was really there. (Laughter) And the reason, so I'm a little bit jet-lagged, but I want you to know, if you didn't know, it was kind of kept quiet until it was over. But a number of people, huge dignitaries, all got on a boat and went to the Arctic. We spent eight days. Jimmy Carter was there. Madeline Albright. Tom Daschle. Larry Page from Google. But not just liberals and progressives; the head of DuPont was there, eight days on a boat, to look and see if what's happening with climate change is real. The head of Monsanto was there. We had Republicans and Democrats, young people, old people, state leaders, Catholics, evangelicals.

And I want you to know that after eight days of looking with our own eyes of what's going on, looking at the glaciers receding, looking at the animals and life up there that's suffering, watching the actual results and impacts of global warming, that every single person who is a part of that delegation, Left, Right and otherwise, agreed that Al Gore has been right the whole time. Global warming is real.

We have to do something about it. Nobody who goes and spoke at this thing has come to any other conclusion. You need to understand that. This is our moment. This is our opportunity. Before I get to my comments, though, since we're here, I want to tell you about my personal experience in the Arctic.

First of all, they had us on this boat, man. Lot of people have bad experiences of boats, man. You know, we're ... (Laughter) far back memories, man. I was like, I don't like this. (Laughter) It was tough, man. And then, boats are not big things. They're not airplanes. I guess it's left over from the days of scurvy or something. They're small. And, OK, I busted my head open, man. I'm serious. I busted my head open on a bulkhead, like the first day, which was not very impressive. (Laughter) So, a little bit woozy.

The other thing that happened was, we had a meeting. We had a delegation, this meeting of the delegation of polar bears. And they're very polite, the polar bears. And they're very friendly. The polar bears were not as skinny and scrawny as I expected. They were definitely smaller than they were supposed to be, but they also looked toned, looked pretty healthy.

So I said, what's going on? You guys look at lot healthier than I expected. And nobody said anything. The polar bears, they got quiet. (Laughter) And the only polar bear that spoke up was a black one. (Laughter) Oh, see? You didn't know there was black polar bears. Now I'm telling you, man. Racism everywhere. (Laughter)

But the black polar bear was honest, man. He said, look. Tell you the truth. The seals, they are getting kind of scarce up here. But we've been snacking on these camera crews y'all keep sending. (Laughter) So tell Gore to keep giving the speeches, man. The camera crews are tasty. (Laughter) So I say that because it's so important that we do more than just send delegations to the Arctic and talk about it, and worry about it. It's time to take some real action. And I want to talk with you about our action plan. And I want to talk with you about the importance of it, because one of the things that I saw when I was there was up close and personal with Jimmy Carter.

I think a lot of times, in the progressive movement, we kind of almost go along with the conservatives in making fun of Jimmy Carter, almost turning him into a punch line. But I want to say, seeing him day after day, he's one of the truly great human beings that's ever lived on this earth.

We need to give him the respect that he's due. Jimmy Carter was talking about the oil crisis. He was talking about solar power. He was talking about wind energy 30 years ago. And if we had stayed with his program, if we had stayed with his policies, we wouldn't be where we are today. So he deserves the utmost respect from all of us. We need to rehabilitate Jimmy Carter.

If conservatives can rehabilitate Ronald Reagan, we can certainly rehabilitate Jimmy Carter. We have to learn the lessons, too, from his presidency, because we are about to go into a very similar situation. Many of you are excited about the Democratic nominee. Many of you are excited about having a Democrat back in the White House and think that your efforts may lend a hand toward getting him elected.

I want to say to you, your excitement is understandable, and your ability to get him elected is not in doubt. You probably can get this nominee elected. You probably cannot get him re-elected. I'm going to say it again. You can probably get him elected, but you probably cannot get him re-elected, unless we are very intelligent starting right now. Now is the time to think about the re-election of this president, not just the election.

And the last time we had a Democrat in the White House, Democrats controlling the Senate, Democrats controlling the House, energy prices through the roof, jobs going down, was Jimmy Carter. And we had four years of that, and 12 years of Reagan-Bush. If we are not careful, if we are not smart, this could be four years as a precursor to the kind of right-wing backlash that will make us miss John McCain, make us miss George W. Bush. Don't think it's not possible. There are dragons on the Right who, in their anti-immigrant hatred, in their warmongering jingoism, in their commitment to drill and burn their way out of our energy crisis, will make you miss John McCain.


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"If's" won't work without inspiring leadership
Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Sep 20, 2008 1:39 AM   
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Near the end of his speech, Van Jones said, "IF we do our work right and well now, IF we stand together, IF we combine causes and look for shared solutions...

Solving those "IFs" will require inspiring leadership. From my perspective as a senior citizen who remembers JFK, only one politician since 1963 has had that ability -- Barack Obama.

However, on Election Day, I fear, too many Americans may only see the color of his skin.

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The author should discuss HEMP first off. That'll remove the Great Depression that's currently
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 20, 2008 6:28 AM   
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enveloping this country big time. Allow hemp to compete with petroleum and you'll be amazed. This is why Big Oil collaborated with other big business interests 71-80 years ago to bring about a phony culture wars framing Cannabis as "dangerous" even when that was proven to be a LIE. And another thing, solar and wind can provide as much of the energy's needs as can fossil fuels but big government is currently supporting a RIGGED market that only allows nuclear and fossil fuels to dominate and invent lies about solar and wind somehow not meeting the world's energy needs.

And instead of drilling, I strongly recommend that we pressure these pols to consider the following:

1. Conservation
2. Fuel Efficiency
3. Public Transportation
4. Bringing back local grass-fed foods and doing away with corn-fed factory farm bullshit
5. Reforming zoning laws that are currently used against solar, wind, and clothes lining.

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Time for another New Deal
Posted by: Democritus on Sep 20, 2008 6:45 AM   
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Being old enough to have lived during World War II, I remember FDR's leadership skills and his ability to get people to work together during times of crisis. To meet our present-day crises--and they are many--Van Jones is seeking those same leadership skills from our next president.

There is no need to recount the misery of the past eight years--wars, spiraling debt, foreclosures, destruction of our environment,political corruption, failure of government to ameliorate natural disasters--all of this baggage will be inherited by our next president, whoever he is.

The question facing voters is whether they want to continue down the same path begun by George W. Bush, or whether they want to change the way government does business. If they choose "more of the same"--more drilling, more money for the Pentagon, more wars, more bailouts for bankers, more borrowing to support a profliate lifestyle, more desecration of our wilderness--then it will take only four more years to turn the United States into a vast wasteland, a country in which most people live at a subsistence level while the very rich protect their mansions with armed guards the way they do now in Mexico City.

Van Jones offers us another way. Let's have another New Deal in which our resources are conserved, incentives are offered for new energy technologies, and we use our taxes to pay for fixing our deteriorating infrastructure. The choice we have is clearer than it has been in the last 40 years. It is up to us. We are the change that we are hoping for.

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ba
Posted by: mnstra on Sep 20, 2008 8:21 AM   
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What does it cost for these environmentalists to fly around the world consuming energy to speak about conservation?

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» RE: ba humbug! Posted by: edgeofnowhere
» RE: ba Posted by: sinfony78
Drilling for the future
Posted by: adi.das on Sep 20, 2008 9:46 AM   
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Considering the first country to drill to the earth's mantle and use geothermic displaement and magnetohydrodynamic oceanic electrical systems will hold as a superpower, i wonder if drilling doesnt work?

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About the "for real" part,
Posted by: PaulK on Sep 20, 2008 10:41 AM   
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First off, I'm angry at our government. It works for rich people. It delivers hot air for the real inventors.

It delivers a patent office that requires a Ph.D. and even then many, many inventors get robbed of their life's work.

It delivers grant money that goes to the insiders, usually professors with their own graduate students to feed and to promote. If your idea is meritorious, they find niggling little things to turn you down. If you do everything right, they concoct their own laws of physics just so they can downgrade your proposal.

I'm stunned by universities that get grant money specifically to study solar, wind, geothermal, and then they never return ten of your calls in a row. Translation: get the hint, bum, this money is embezzled. Then they accept your proposal and turn you down without a word. I assume that they talked to their engineers and found nothing physically wrong with the invention, no holes in the business plan either, so they just said nothing.

So I'm sitting here reading about "We need solar invention" and I respect the author, but every once in a while I want to hit the author with a cream pie in the face because he doesn't get it. Solar research and development on the garage level is alive and well, but on the government level in 2008 it's a crooked sham, and nobody cares. Like the obviously fake nation in "What's Up Tiger Lily?", solar research isn't a real program, but "It's next on the list."

There are probably 100 other inventors like me.

What I would like to do for real:

Cause the price of solar space heating and water heating to plummet in the frost belt.

Aim for 2 cents per kwh solar electricity in the California desert.

Drop the price of personal rapid transit by a factor of 10 at least, while increasing safety and convenience by a factor of 10.

Cheaply deploy cirrus clouds in the Arctic over the oceans each summer, stopping certain runaway effects of global warming.

Irrigate certain deserts with fresh water, assisting in carbon recapture.

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Get ready for a second American Revolution (a post from another thread worth repeating)
Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Sep 20, 2008 11:32 AM   
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The following news report was published today by AOL.

WASHINGTON (Sept. 20) - Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent" or responsible for their own troubles.

The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004 — about two and one-half percentage points.

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If you think the last eight years under Bumbling Bush were bad, what until McKKKain gets into the Oval Office. There will be, I predict, blood in the streets.

Literally.

The GOP cannot not steal another election, this time with the help of bipartisan bigots, without there being severe repercussions -- from black, brown, red, yellow and white people who REALLY love America, including yours truly.

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I DON'T SEE AWAY OUT OF GLOBAL WARMING
Posted by: cori on Sep 20, 2008 12:13 PM   
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First of all we have China and India that are burning more oil and coal then ever as they expand.
Russia is making a fortune on oil and so is Canada as well as the various South American countires.

Then there is the issue of "THE DIMMING OF THE SUN" shown on Nova. Apparently, all the pollution in the atmosphere is actually reflecting alot of the sun's heat and keeping us cooler then if it wasn't there. It was reported that the Earth could heat up as much as 25 degrees if air pollution was illiminated. But we are continuing to heat up anyway.

Then there was the report about the carbon released from the meat and burger industry that said was more then all the SUV's in the world. This doesn't include everything else that we do to add to global warming. But the entire process of growing food, feeding, processing, freezing, trucking and cooking all the ingredients that go into making burgers is enormous and contributes a vast amount to global warming. So as I see it we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. If we reduce emissions and have less pollution in the air the atmosphere will heat up more quickly and if we keep up our current situation we will fry also.

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The Solution Is Quite Simple 6 BN Human Beings Form An Orderly Queue To The Beach
Posted by: opmoc on Sep 20, 2008 1:48 PM   
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Then swim out as far as you can and simply Drown.

Don't worry about the ecological impact there are plenty of fish who will really enjoy devouring your remains.

Alternatively 6BN Human Beings can simply ignore the Extreme Right and Extreme Left who are fighting amongst themselves to attain the position of World Leaders in Either a Fascist or Communist World Dictatorship Using Lies and Fear So that they can inherit the World minus over 90% of the Human Population of the World.

Basically If You continue to believe in the Myth of Global Warming as the World continues to get COLDER then you are a fucking stupid cunt who should watch the FKN Newz Instead

I mean for Fucks Sake

Sure I appreciate that half the population has an IQ lower than 100

But I see more intelligence in my cat than some of the bollocks on here about Global Warming

Stick Your Nose Out of The Door

Is it Warmer or Colder than it Was 10 years ago?

And this financial Tsunami - Its all a part of the same process of the Planned Massive Cull

By the Elite Fuckers with all the money and power

The fact that you believe all this shit and continue to take it up the arse just demonstrates how pathetic you are

Yes its Animal Farm - George Orwell 1984 and Everything else - and Its all Bollocks - Its Simply Not True

But You believe all sorts of nonsense

Stand Up and Shout

You are Being Fed Shit

The Only TRUTH is That The EVIL Bastards Are In Control - Just Like Germany in 1939

HEIL Hitler!!!!

The World Government Message

FUCK OFF AND DIE

The People's Message To The World Government

We are Going To Put All You Individuals on TRIAL For War Crimes Against Humanity

The Innocent Will Go Free

The Guilty Will Spend The Rest of Their Life in Jail

Tony

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» YOU NEED THERAPY Posted by: cori
UnderMining the Right's Mouthpieces
Posted by: Shankari46 on Sep 20, 2008 2:12 PM   
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In order for these positions to work, and in order to prevent a massive global climate change a few things have to happen. One is that the Right's loud mouth needs to be permanently closed. The only place these people are leading us is to our own self-destruction. How does one go about doing that? Well, this would be a difficult task, but one way would be to nationalize the oil companies and strip the CEOs of their money and power. This in itself is a daunting task. The right wing are simply a mouthpiece for the oil companies and the billionaires who make money off of driving us into extinction. The money from these behemouths could be used to pay down the national debt and drive us toward green energy. The next step would be to get a handle back on our media. These outlets belong to too few people. One issue I have is with foreigners owning large media outlets, namely Rupert Murdock. Ban foreigners from owning American media. Break the media down into very small outlets.

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Ok AsteroidMiner, where's those nukey posts of yours? Bring them on !
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 20, 2008 8:31 PM   
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LOOK UP THE DIMMING SUN ON NOVA PBS-
Posted by: cori on Sep 20, 2008 10:03 PM   
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Scientists have been studying this for a long time.

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Last Great Pres. First to be victim of 'Cheney Tactics'
Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 21, 2008 5:57 AM   
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Those who still grant Turd the undo honor of the Doctrine of Politcal personal Assination is too young or too stupid To remember.Turd Didn't ahve Zits yet to Pop when this Doctrine hit the stands in it's First Edition!
Carter knew the Middle East was a HUGE Problem For Our nation and wanted to get out and stay 0out of the Region. Not only did we suffer becuase of th eIran Hostge situation , we suffered from an Oil Crisis....'DejaVu All Over Again' .You may recall he tried to pull off a covert operation which would have saved our people, but kept our military out of the Region, You may recall Terrorist were highjacking planes every Month. You may recall, 'Lower your Thermostats,Put on a Sweater, combine trips'..
You may recall during the Iran Contra Scandal it was Proven Reagans Puppet master were doing dirty deals with other Terroist to get the Hostages Released- Trading ARms for Hostage- NEGOTIATING WITH TERRORIST!
You may Recall- or at least Watch 'Wilson War'- that Cheney et al began arming Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan against the USSR- interesting Bedfellows- Funny how that FACT still escapes the MSM, when talking about AQ!
Of course it's par for the course since they continually neglect the FACT Cheney et al also have such strong ties to Rich Oppressive Oil 'Royals' and their bottom line and 'Futures' rely on these SOB's!

WE WILL NEVER BE 'ENERGY INDEPENDNT' UNTIL WE RECLAIM OUR ENERGY AS A NATIONALLY OWNED RESOURCE!!!!

'Trickle Down' has proven through our LONGITUDINAL Study to be the Antithesis of a Free Market and the American Way of Life. Corporationism HATES the Free Market and it HATES OUR FREEDOMS!
Have no doubt these 'Speculators', Investors and Gamblers hedge their bets and drive the market value of Human labor they same way they do with Stocks, Oil, Corn and natural Resources.
It is NOT UnAmerican to put Country before Corps, since the Constitution and The Bill of Rights were Written By the People and FOR the people. Our National Treasures include not just Anwar and Yellowstone, they include our Energy, our Food Supply, and our Economic Opportunities...We Do Not Live in a Caste System (tht's Saudi Arabia). We live in a Country that's basic Tenents are "Life,Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness"

VOTE REPUBLICAN AND REVOKE YOUR CITIZENSHIP!
MOVE TO SAUDI ARABIA AND TAKE THE 'RELIGIOUS RIGHT TO AFGHANSITAN, THEY HAVE FREINDS IN THE TAILBAN!!!!

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How insightful-NOT!!
Posted by: rickiey on Sep 23, 2008 5:58 AM   
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No one anywhere is suggesting that drilling is the answer to the energy problem.

It is a necessary small PART of the energy solution, which must include: Clean coal, nuclear power, natural gas, hydro, solar, solar, solar, biofuel, ethanol, and geothermal.

Oh, and electric cars.

But yes, we need to drill anyway, because regardless where our energy is coming from, we are still going to need oil, and we should get it from ourselves instead of foreign nations.

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