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What is the Carbon Footprint of McCain's Countless Homes?
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As probably the whole country knows by now, John McCain does not know how many homes he owns. But the number seems to be between seven and 12, depending on whether you count his Sedona ranch as one house or six.
Given how conservatives beat up Vice President Gore for the supposed energy excesses of his one Nashville home, I can't wait until they start running TV ads attacking McCain's climate hypocrisy. [Note to self: Don't hold your breath.] After all, McCain fashions himself as a leader on global warming, just like Gore, but his combined homes have a considerably larger square footage than Gore's -- and thus presumably a much larger energy use. That said, the energy use of McCain's homes is infinitely less relevant than their greenhouse gas emissions (see "GOP Attack on Gore Makes No Sense At All").
So what is the carbon footprint of McCain's countless homes? Here is a rough estimate.According to press reports, just one of McCain's homes, his $4.66 million condo in Phoenix, is about 7000 square feet, which is three times the size of the average American home built last year. His $850,000 Virginia condo is another 2,100 square feet. Given a total estimated value of McCain's homes of $14 million, one can make a very rough estimate that McCain has 10 times the carbon footprint of the average American home, which is about 15 tons of CO2.
The rich are different from the rest of us. They pollute a lot more.
Now I seriously doubt that McCain is purchasing 100 percent renewable power, using state-of-the-art energy efficiency, including a geothermal heat pump, to all but eliminate his carbon footprint, as Gore is (see "Gore greens his Tennessee home"). After all, he doesn't believe such technologies work (see The real, Luddite McCain: "The truly clean technologies don't work").
So for now I'll stick with 150 tons of carbon dioxide for the carbon footprint of his homes, which are listed here (from the NYT):
Their ranch in Sedona, Ariz., where Mr. McCain is spending some down time this weekend, and its guest house and parcels, is valued at $1,766,440. (An Architectural Digest spread a few years back offers a glimpse.)
In Phoenix, two adjacent condos with a price tag of $4.7 million in 2006.
In Scottsdale, Mrs. McCain also owns the Princess Medical Center, valued at $14 million, but this is not a residential property.
In Coronado, Calif., a condominium owned by Mrs. McCain's "Dream Catcher Family" corporation is valued, according to recent tax assessments, at $2.7 million. And records show another condo there as well.
In La Jolla, Calif., Mrs. McCain's trust owns another condo.
The couple also have a home in Arlington, Va., another condominium valued at $847,800 this year, according to public records.
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Posted by: Karl.Ben on Aug 22, 2008 6:11 PM
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As for McCain houses, they are actually investment property and own by corporations . Asking one of my clients today that same question (he's a real estate developer) his answer was , who the hell knows. call my accountant for the answer. It was obvious that McCain isn't concerned with his wifes investments.
I'm actually less concerned with McCains carbon footprint than I am with Obama's connection to Rezko and what actually transpired - a potential president playing with criminals.. reminds me of the good old JFK days.
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Posted by: jack alexander on Aug 22, 2008 9:44 PM
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Firstly, we are made of carbon as are all but one or two species of plants and animals on the planet. (Some 'animal' species in the ocean are found to be methanogens.)
Just living creates carbon. Diamonds are carbon.
Face it we are surrounded by carbon.
As for the imaginary water shortage(s): The whole damn planet is nearly covered in water. The sky is blue because it is full of water and water refracts the sunlight to the color blue.
If we want/need to approach something really important we could start with the damn war and other killing and starvation on the planet. Homelessness in America comes to mind too since I've spent a major part of the last 15 years living on the streets. I also spent way too many months in Vietnam when I was a kid who should have been home going to school and having fun.
Enough said? No, there is lots more to be said, but it's the doing we need to start with. We are generating way to many words sitting on our duffs.
Regards...Jack.e.alexander g mail
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Posted by: Romans1 on Aug 22, 2008 10:00 PM
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Posted by: edgar1 on Aug 23, 2008 4:51 PM
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(Counting the ones in 'trust' as the Kennedy properties for years are not in the names of family members for tax evasion purposes)
Maybe Obama can ask Carolyn Kennedy?
Who cares? Richard Nixon was the last President who wasn't a multimillionaire when he was elected President; the Clintons claimed to be cash poor but had all kinds of deals with wheeler dealers lined up to kick in upon Bill's exit from the White House. Presidents (and practically all senators) are rich thanks to book deals for their unreadable books and outrageous speaking fees, as well as the insider business deals they all are privy to.
Also Kennedy is from from the only rich heir in the US Senate or among governors.
PS: for those hopelessly naive out there, and I know there are a few of you breathlessly awaiting the election of the community organizer of the South Side, The Obamas are rich. I think that is fine. I think it is fine Cindy McCain's father was rich and left her a lot of money to do what she wanted to do after taxes, including buying houses. I suppose she could have spent the money on Enron stock. Next thing you know some Alternet writer will find that several of the properties didn't go down in value this year and therefore the McCains are "out of touch".
Unlike the Obamas who didn't pay market value for their tony home in the ritzy U chicago area of Chitown.
WHO CARES!!
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Posted by: qqNageli on Aug 28, 2008 8:54 PM
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Posted by: Karl.Ben on Aug 22, 2008 6:11 PM
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As for McCain houses, they are actually investment property and own by corporations . Asking one of my clients today that same question (he's a real estate developer) his answer was , who the hell knows. call my accountant for the answer. It was obvious that McCain isn't concerned with his wifes investments.
I'm actually less concerned with McCains carbon footprint than I am with Obama's connection to Rezko and what actually transpired - a potential president playing with criminals.. reminds me of the good old JFK days.
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Posted by: jack alexander on Aug 22, 2008 9:44 PM
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Firstly, we are made of carbon as are all but one or two species of plants and animals on the planet. (Some 'animal' species in the ocean are found to be methanogens.)
Just living creates carbon. Diamonds are carbon.
Face it we are surrounded by carbon.
As for the imaginary water shortage(s): The whole damn planet is nearly covered in water. The sky is blue because it is full of water and water refracts the sunlight to the color blue.
If we want/need to approach something really important we could start with the damn war and other killing and starvation on the planet. Homelessness in America comes to mind too since I've spent a major part of the last 15 years living on the streets. I also spent way too many months in Vietnam when I was a kid who should have been home going to school and having fun.
Enough said? No, there is lots more to be said, but it's the doing we need to start with. We are generating way to many words sitting on our duffs.
Regards...Jack.e.alexander g mail
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Posted by: Romans1 on Aug 22, 2008 10:00 PM
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Posted by: edgar1 on Aug 23, 2008 4:51 PM
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(Counting the ones in 'trust' as the Kennedy properties for years are not in the names of family members for tax evasion purposes)
Maybe Obama can ask Carolyn Kennedy?
Who cares? Richard Nixon was the last President who wasn't a multimillionaire when he was elected President; the Clintons claimed to be cash poor but had all kinds of deals with wheeler dealers lined up to kick in upon Bill's exit from the White House. Presidents (and practically all senators) are rich thanks to book deals for their unreadable books and outrageous speaking fees, as well as the insider business deals they all are privy to.
Also Kennedy is from from the only rich heir in the US Senate or among governors.
PS: for those hopelessly naive out there, and I know there are a few of you breathlessly awaiting the election of the community organizer of the South Side, The Obamas are rich. I think that is fine. I think it is fine Cindy McCain's father was rich and left her a lot of money to do what she wanted to do after taxes, including buying houses. I suppose she could have spent the money on Enron stock. Next thing you know some Alternet writer will find that several of the properties didn't go down in value this year and therefore the McCains are "out of touch".
Unlike the Obamas who didn't pay market value for their tony home in the ritzy U chicago area of Chitown.
WHO CARES!!
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