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Why the Hype About Local Food May Be More than Just a Trend
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It is tempting to dismiss locally grown food as just another elite fashion, as many people surely will. But it is also true that wealthy households are often the first to validate broader market trends.
Consider it another chapter in the ongoing dance between the commons and the market. The commons lovingly advances a new ideal -- in this case, the ecological virtues, social satisfactions and great taste of locally grown food. And then, after years of hippies, homesteaders and eco-evangelists beating the drum for this new ideal below the radar screen of mainstream culture, entrepreneurs suddenly get hip to what's going on and swoop in to make money from a grassroots trend.
Some things never change. We are at that special inflection point in the evolution of social attitudes that are mysteriously propelling the rise of a new market niche. Its customers, the aficionados of local food, even have a name -- "locavores." There are also novel sorts of new businesses.
As the Times reports, Trevor Paque has made a business in San Francisco planting vegetable gardens for affluent suburbanites who want to eat garden-grown food, but who don't like to garden. So Trevor does the planting, weeding and harvesting. A company called FruitGuys will deliver boxes of locally grown, sustainably raised or organic fruit to people in San Francisco and Philadelphia.
Soon mega-millionaires like Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh will rail against the trendiness of local food. That's their schtick, after all -- to invent elite foils for themselves so that they can cast themselves as Main Street populists. Real Republicans only eat red meat and potatoes, it would seem.
This is just a shell game in the culture wars, however. I am convinced that local food is going to become a steady, long-term growth market. For its taste, cost and eco-friendliness, local food has already become a symbol of social virtue. People are starting to realize that it is not so good for the planet to haul meat from New Zealand, wheat from South Dakota and fruit from Caifornia. Social demand and sheer economics are starting to buoy local growers, and supermarkets are looking for new ways to call attention to their local produce. The trend lines are clear.
The spending of local money for local produce is surely a virtuous cycle for local economies. It is also likely to promote greater personal connections among people locally, stronger commitments to one's local community, and a more stable and diverse local economy.
Two days after filing the local foods article, Kim Severson, the same Times reporter who wrote about the elite embrace of local foods, had another piece about the upcoming an upcoming festival called Slow Food Nation. The event, to be held in downtown San Francisco over Labor Day weekend, will feature pavilions devoted to foods like pickles, coffee and salami. A quarter-acre patch of the lawn in front of City Hall has been ripped up to grow a garden.
Slow Food Nation is an ambitious attempt by Slow Food USA, the American spinoff of the Italy-born Slow Food movement, to establish itself as a recognized political and cultural force. Organizers hope the festival will be, in the words of Severson, "the Woodstock of food, a profound event where a broad band of people will see that delicious, sustainably produced food can be a prism for social, ecological and political change."
I am sure that certain elements of the Slow Food world will behave like effete connoisseurs and fawn over the local argula and goat cheese. But really, is that so bad? Why shouldn't people start to express their affection and appreciation for local food? If cultural snobs and the wealthy can embrace a populist trend without coopting it -- validating it with their presence and boosting it with their dollars -- I say, bring 'em on. Let everyone celebrate the taste of local food -- and then move on to the political and economic realities that sustain it.
If local food is going to be a victim of identity politics, let it be a politics of localism: "We all live here together, so let's find the way to support the farmers who are our neighbors."
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Posted by: grumble-bum on Aug 4, 2008 4:45 AM
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After all, it's how everyone in every corner of the globe has gotten their sustenance for thousands of years! It's only in the last handful of decades, in the wealthiest of countries, that this commonsense approach has been flipped upside down. It could be easily argued that buying one's raspberries at SuperTarget is the real elitism.
Not that there aren't understandable concerns about the costs & time involved in eating a more local diet. Articles like those in the NYT don't help matters, by playing up the more absurd manifestations of the growing interest in local & Slow food. There are always going to be those who go about things the expensive way, because honestly, they can't conceive of any other approach. But it certainly doesn't have to be that way, & there are many more people practicing a more locally-based diet in a sensible, enjoyable & cost-effective manner than there are those paying other people to plant & tend their garden for them.
I offer as just one example of this trend-that's-here-to-stay, the efforts of my coworkers & I to adhere to a local diet this summer. None of us are wealthy, in fact most of us make at or below 20-odd grand/year. Granted, we have some initial advantages, like already working with local & natural foods. But we have many supposed disadvantages as well, like not making any money to speak of, or having cars, etc. We certainly don't have anyone personally babysitting our gardens, or cooking our food for us.
To call local/Slow food sourcing a "trend" is basically false. It's not going anywhere, whether the economy gets better, or we collapse into anarchy. Now that awareness is growing, the challenge is to find ways to frame & promote it properly, & develop more ways that people of all economic strata can see the benefits.
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Posted by: Liberty G on Aug 4, 2008 5:33 AM
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My husband is a leader in making local growing possible in the problematic winter season - with a unique solar greenhouse design - patent in process. We've tested a mini-prototype and are on the verge of a large scale version to be built this Fall. If, as we hope and expect, we can show great veggies grown in it over the winter, we are go for making it available next Spring.
The possibilities will be endless and exciting - for nurseries, organic farms, greenhouses on urban roofs - and the same system could even be used for heating homes, etc.
Now, if only we could have support for inventors like my husband to fully develop all their ideas on environmental and energy options... Our only access to patents has been my spouse's ability to write his own applications. Otherwise, the cost is prohibitive. I've been proposing a Center for Innovative Technology, where folks could submit ideas in strict confidentiality, and the ones with value would get patents and help with development.
Guess what - the most creative ideas don't come out of corporate think tanks (which are mostly focused on increasing corporate profits, not value to the world and its people). We need to encourage and support the lone geniuses in our midst!
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 4, 2008 6:03 AM
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We do splurge a little on $10 bottle of blueberry wine from a local vinter; that's just how we HaHaHiltons roll :)
Seriously, though, with the cost of transportation and energy increasing, growers that don't have to figure in a 4,000 mile trip to market are managing to compete well against slave labor banana republics--countries that might be better served growing food as a staple, rather than an export/cash crop, not to mention their ability to compete with distant, scaled-up operations.
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Posted by: williameon on Aug 4, 2008 6:07 AM
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We are being set up by Agribusiness.
Bring back the local family farm and
Go organic.
Terminator Genes and Genetically Modified Crops are poison.
Bio diversity and verity is and always has been the answer.
Put your trust in Mother Nature.
Stick to what we know.
We have to go back to being an agricultural society with locally based industry that produces our own food, tools, energy, cloths and goods
LOCALLY!
The Industrial age based on cheap energy is over.
Localization is key.
The Micro Democracy Revolution.
Disperse.
Create!
Survive and Prosper.
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» RE: Local is better! Save the Farms and Feed the People!
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» Two excellent posts!
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Posted by: dlibby on Aug 4, 2008 9:01 AM
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Need I say more. I am very frugle when it comes to shopping and I personally have found that shopping at local fresh markets are cheaper in the long run, not to mention healthier!! You should not shop down the middle isles of grocery stores for the simple fact it is garbage. Food that is labled food by the FDA is by no means of nutritional
value.The public is becoming more savy when it comes to health. There are so many reasons to shop locally, health for one less aggravation in dealing with large grocery chains is another. Keep in mind the more you shop and give to local businesses the more profitable for them which in turn means they can keep prices on a reasonable scale.
I have also found that local markets need to turn things over quicker,which means they will reduce prices on day old bread etc. to move produce. It's a no brainer and a win win!! for all. I live in south Florida and I have seen a hugh increase in traffic at local markets by the elderly who are on fixed incomes. It's not just for the rich and famous... and it is not a trend, it is an educational fact that will benefit the lives of wise health concious consumers!!!!!
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At the same time, our town has many residents who participate in the food stamp program. It makes me absolutely NUTS to see people spending their food stamps on zero-nutrition products like "orange drink" and processed garbage....so nuts that I finally started asking them WHY they weren't buying more fresh foods. Their answer is almost always time and convenience.
In nearly every other corner of the world, being close to the source of your food is what the "regular" people do. But here, in this twisted country of ours, many folks have been conned into believing that canned, corporate frankenfood actually allows you to live “richer.” Save time, watch more TV…..don’t live like the savages and get your hands dirty!
It’s all about trained laziness, not a perception of elitism. We’ve been convinced as a culture that our lives are better with technology. And if we aren’t spending all day tending a garden or cooking fresh food, then we’ll have much more time for leisure. Problem is, all that leisure is making us bored, fat and unhappy.
It’s also made us powerless. We rely on invisible, faraway sources for our food rather than breaking a sweat and participating in the process. We say we don’t have enough time to garden and cook, but I ask “What then are you spending your time on?” Are you working more so you can afford “nice things” like prepared food? Instead of working to consume, what if you consciously shifted your life to actually living?
Plant a garden. Get outside. Visit a library. Cook something fresh. Get to know your neighbors. Scale down. My husband and I don’t make a lot of money but we enjoy a very rich, full life. Our happiness has gone up simply because our list of “needs” has gone way down.
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Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on Aug 4, 2008 2:39 PM
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We live rural, that makes it an easier decision; it may take more effort for those in cities.
An important thing is to adjust to nature and accept that not all fruit and vegetables should be available everywhere all year long. I've long ago stopped buying certain fruits like peaches, apricots and plums out of season because they are wooden and tasteless. All these things are picked green and never develop their flavor and proper texture. In the past, families would pickle and preserve to eat over the winter. A lost art, for most.
Yes, eat locally as much as possible, but also eat seasonally.
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» It is common in the rural areas.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 4, 2008 3:34 PM
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I find that I'm able to drink milk again (wonderful for me)! Having lived over seas, the local market was the way to go. You learn to eat seasonally, and you learn to be creative and inventive with your recipes!
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Posted by: pomes on Aug 8, 2008 4:38 PM
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It isn't a trend, it's an inevitable return. Unless it gets hi-jacked by new "public safety" laws.
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Posted by: grumble-bum on Aug 4, 2008 4:45 AM
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After all, it's how everyone in every corner of the globe has gotten their sustenance for thousands of years! It's only in the last handful of decades, in the wealthiest of countries, that this commonsense approach has been flipped upside down. It could be easily argued that buying one's raspberries at SuperTarget is the real elitism.
Not that there aren't understandable concerns about the costs & time involved in eating a more local diet. Articles like those in the NYT don't help matters, by playing up the more absurd manifestations of the growing interest in local & Slow food. There are always going to be those who go about things the expensive way, because honestly, they can't conceive of any other approach. But it certainly doesn't have to be that way, & there are many more people practicing a more locally-based diet in a sensible, enjoyable & cost-effective manner than there are those paying other people to plant & tend their garden for them.
I offer as just one example of this trend-that's-here-to-stay, the efforts of my coworkers & I to adhere to a local diet this summer. None of us are wealthy, in fact most of us make at or below 20-odd grand/year. Granted, we have some initial advantages, like already working with local & natural foods. But we have many supposed disadvantages as well, like not making any money to speak of, or having cars, etc. We certainly don't have anyone personally babysitting our gardens, or cooking our food for us.
To call local/Slow food sourcing a "trend" is basically false. It's not going anywhere, whether the economy gets better, or we collapse into anarchy. Now that awareness is growing, the challenge is to find ways to frame & promote it properly, & develop more ways that people of all economic strata can see the benefits.
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Posted by: Liberty G on Aug 4, 2008 5:33 AM
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My husband is a leader in making local growing possible in the problematic winter season - with a unique solar greenhouse design - patent in process. We've tested a mini-prototype and are on the verge of a large scale version to be built this Fall. If, as we hope and expect, we can show great veggies grown in it over the winter, we are go for making it available next Spring.
The possibilities will be endless and exciting - for nurseries, organic farms, greenhouses on urban roofs - and the same system could even be used for heating homes, etc.
Now, if only we could have support for inventors like my husband to fully develop all their ideas on environmental and energy options... Our only access to patents has been my spouse's ability to write his own applications. Otherwise, the cost is prohibitive. I've been proposing a Center for Innovative Technology, where folks could submit ideas in strict confidentiality, and the ones with value would get patents and help with development.
Guess what - the most creative ideas don't come out of corporate think tanks (which are mostly focused on increasing corporate profits, not value to the world and its people). We need to encourage and support the lone geniuses in our midst!
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» RE: When will we all learn to balance local and global ? NEVER !
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» RE: When will we all learn to balance local and global ? NEVER !
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 4, 2008 6:03 AM
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We do splurge a little on $10 bottle of blueberry wine from a local vinter; that's just how we HaHaHiltons roll :)
Seriously, though, with the cost of transportation and energy increasing, growers that don't have to figure in a 4,000 mile trip to market are managing to compete well against slave labor banana republics--countries that might be better served growing food as a staple, rather than an export/cash crop, not to mention their ability to compete with distant, scaled-up operations.
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Posted by: williameon on Aug 4, 2008 6:07 AM
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We are being set up by Agribusiness.
Bring back the local family farm and
Go organic.
Terminator Genes and Genetically Modified Crops are poison.
Bio diversity and verity is and always has been the answer.
Put your trust in Mother Nature.
Stick to what we know.
We have to go back to being an agricultural society with locally based industry that produces our own food, tools, energy, cloths and goods
LOCALLY!
The Industrial age based on cheap energy is over.
Localization is key.
The Micro Democracy Revolution.
Disperse.
Create!
Survive and Prosper.
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» RE: Local is better! Save the Farms and Feed the People!
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» Two excellent posts!
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Posted by: dlibby on Aug 4, 2008 9:01 AM
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Need I say more. I am very frugle when it comes to shopping and I personally have found that shopping at local fresh markets are cheaper in the long run, not to mention healthier!! You should not shop down the middle isles of grocery stores for the simple fact it is garbage. Food that is labled food by the FDA is by no means of nutritional
value.The public is becoming more savy when it comes to health. There are so many reasons to shop locally, health for one less aggravation in dealing with large grocery chains is another. Keep in mind the more you shop and give to local businesses the more profitable for them which in turn means they can keep prices on a reasonable scale.
I have also found that local markets need to turn things over quicker,which means they will reduce prices on day old bread etc. to move produce. It's a no brainer and a win win!! for all. I live in south Florida and I have seen a hugh increase in traffic at local markets by the elderly who are on fixed incomes. It's not just for the rich and famous... and it is not a trend, it is an educational fact that will benefit the lives of wise health concious consumers!!!!!
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Posted by: BirdGuide on Aug 4, 2008 2:07 PM
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At the same time, our town has many residents who participate in the food stamp program. It makes me absolutely NUTS to see people spending their food stamps on zero-nutrition products like "orange drink" and processed garbage....so nuts that I finally started asking them WHY they weren't buying more fresh foods. Their answer is almost always time and convenience.
In nearly every other corner of the world, being close to the source of your food is what the "regular" people do. But here, in this twisted country of ours, many folks have been conned into believing that canned, corporate frankenfood actually allows you to live “richer.” Save time, watch more TV…..don’t live like the savages and get your hands dirty!
It’s all about trained laziness, not a perception of elitism. We’ve been convinced as a culture that our lives are better with technology. And if we aren’t spending all day tending a garden or cooking fresh food, then we’ll have much more time for leisure. Problem is, all that leisure is making us bored, fat and unhappy.
It’s also made us powerless. We rely on invisible, faraway sources for our food rather than breaking a sweat and participating in the process. We say we don’t have enough time to garden and cook, but I ask “What then are you spending your time on?” Are you working more so you can afford “nice things” like prepared food? Instead of working to consume, what if you consciously shifted your life to actually living?
Plant a garden. Get outside. Visit a library. Cook something fresh. Get to know your neighbors. Scale down. My husband and I don’t make a lot of money but we enjoy a very rich, full life. Our happiness has gone up simply because our list of “needs” has gone way down.
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Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on Aug 4, 2008 2:39 PM
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We live rural, that makes it an easier decision; it may take more effort for those in cities.
An important thing is to adjust to nature and accept that not all fruit and vegetables should be available everywhere all year long. I've long ago stopped buying certain fruits like peaches, apricots and plums out of season because they are wooden and tasteless. All these things are picked green and never develop their flavor and proper texture. In the past, families would pickle and preserve to eat over the winter. A lost art, for most.
Yes, eat locally as much as possible, but also eat seasonally.
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» It is common in the rural areas.
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» RE: Local food rules, within limitations.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 4, 2008 3:34 PM
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I find that I'm able to drink milk again (wonderful for me)! Having lived over seas, the local market was the way to go. You learn to eat seasonally, and you learn to be creative and inventive with your recipes!
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It isn't a trend, it's an inevitable return. Unless it gets hi-jacked by new "public safety" laws.
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