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Living Without a Car: My New American Responsibility

By Andrew Lam, New America Media. Posted July 24, 2008.


Giving up a car isn't easy -- even amid the gas crisis. But the covetous American way of life has become unsustainable.
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SAN FRANCISCO -- For the first time in nearly two decades, I am no longer a driver. A few months ago, facing spiking gas prices and much-needed repairs, I donated my car to an organization that takes care of foster kids.

It's an odd feeling to be on this side of being green. Without a car, my sense of time and space have been immediately altered. What was once a matter of expediency is now an effortful navigation.

"I'll be there in 15 minutes!" I used to tell a good friend who once lived nearby but who now resides, without a car, at an inconvenient distance. Going to my favorite Asian food market suddenly has turned into another arduous chore: Once a 30 minute event, it has become a two-hour ordeal, with bags in hands, and bus transfers.

Owning a car has always been a luxury in the Third World, something beyond the pale of the middle class. In countries like Vietnam, Peru and Bangladesh, just to name a few, only the very rich owned cars. When I came here from Vietnam with my family at the end of the war, I remember such delight when my older brother bought his first car. We were still sharing an apartment with my aunt and her children, but as we cruised the streets at night, it felt as if we were becoming Americans.

The automobile, after all, is intrinsically American, and owning one largely determines how we Americans arrange our daily lives -- it is as essential to us as the train and metro are to Japanese or Europeans. Indeed, a car is the first thing a teenager of driving age desires; to drive away from home is an established American rite of passage. Even the working poor are drivers here.

For immigrants, the car is the first thing we buy before the house. Vietnamese in Vietnam marvel at the BMWs and Mercedez Benzes that their relatives drive in America, and no doubt the sleek photos sent home cause many to dream of a life of luxury in the United States.

It seems a natural progression that the housing crisis should quickly lend itself to a car crisis. Both were readily available at one time, with easy loans and cheap gas. But now, with skyrocketing gas prices and faltering mortgages, many have had to give up one in order to keep the other.

Not surprisingly, the car is often the last thing that downtrodden Americans let go. "I can see losing my house, but I can't imagine losing my van," one unemployed friend told me. "I can live in my van. But not being able to get where I need to go would be worse than not having a house."

Mobility defines us far more than sedentary life, thus the car is arguably more important than the house. Americans, despite accepting global warming as de facto, are still very much in love with the automobile. On average, we own 2.28 vehicles per household.

Our addiction to the automobile is as much a symptom of our nomadic culture as it is a matter of necessity: Urban sprawl, combined with little public transportation, makes the car essential. A job seems almost always to require it. The distance between here and there is daunting without a vehicle at one's command.

The car, culturally speaking, is mobility and individualism combined. It is sex, freedom and danger. Thelma and Louise escaped from urban ennui by hitting the freeway with the wind in their hair, the horizon shimmering chimerically ahead. They found romance on the road. Indeed, their final moment approaches the mythic, as the blue Thunderbird Convertible flies across the Grand Canyon, taking the notion of freedom beyond any open road.

Our civilization, too, is driving toward an abyss. The covetous American way of life -- in the age of climate change and dwindling energy resources -- has become unsustainable.

On TV recently, former Vice President turned eco-activist Al Gore called for a radical change in our collective behavior. He wants us to completely replace fossil fuel-generated electricity with carbon-free energy sources like solar, wind and geothermal by 2018. "The survival of the United States of America as we know it is at risk," he said. "The future of human civilization is at stake." We are now being called upon, the Nobel Prize winner told us, "to move quickly and boldly to shake off complacency, throw aside old habits and rise, clear-eyed and alert, to the necessity of big changes."

I wish he were exaggerating, but my gut tells me that the green guru is pointing us in the right direction. How and if we'll ever get there, how we'll find a collective will to act, I have no idea. But I do know this: Humanity has arrived at a historic juncture and it now seems that a drastic shift in the collective behavior is called for. If this means finding the will to be frugal and give up certain luxuries, then so be it.

America was built on the premise of progress and expansion. Yet our vision of a future of unimpeded opportunities and comfort is now in conflict with the health of the planet. The consumer culture requires continuous acquisition, and it is built on the concept of disposable goods. Our way of life -- which is copied the world over -- has created an unprecedented crisis on a planetary scale.

I can tell you from experience, however, that being on the right side of the green divide is not easy. As I trudged to work this morning, a 40-minute trek, I dearly missed my car. As I budget my time and memorize bus routes and timetables, it seems as if I am returning to my humble immigrant beginnings, repudiating some notion of being an American. But I'm not. Giving up the car is my new American responsibility.

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Andrew Lam is the author of Perfume Dreams: Reflections on the Vietnamese Diaspora.

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Folding bikes
Posted by: aouie01 on Jul 24, 2008 12:54 AM   
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A good addition to the mediocre public transport systems like in Los Angeles, would be folding bikes. You can look at Citizen Bike for an inexpensive example (haven't tried their bike though (only tried a big folding bike from Dahon that is good to put in the trunk but not to carry around in public transit)). If you live and work within a few miles of train connections, then trains plus bikes could mean faster commute times (during rush hour) in places like Los Angeles.
Sincerely,
Aouie

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Car sharing
Posted by: aouie01 on Jul 24, 2008 1:00 AM   
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Another option is to share cars. An example for San Francisco. This may be adequate for most people, but of course people are unlikely to be ready to settle for it as yet. Maybe at least share one car per house for the side benefit of having more parking spaces in cities (till they build more multi-story buildings and crowd up the cities even more).
Sincerely,
Aouie

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My Life Without A Car...
Posted by: Lily H. on Jul 24, 2008 2:59 AM   
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...began way before it was fashionable. I drove an
15-year-old American-made vehicle for six years before
it finally gave up the ghost on a Christmas family outing the same weekend Sonny Bono and Michael Kennedy were both killed on the ski slopes (odd reference, I know).

Since then, my children and I were no longer able to take drives to our favorite country spots away from
the city, and grocery shopping became a new challenge.
I'd recently transferred my youngest to a new school
which I'd only visited a hand-ful of times due to its considerable distance from our home and NO bus service
there.

As a working poor head-of-household, I was able to keep a car running, roadworthy and insured, but no
dice on being able to buy another once it was lost.
Years came and went, my children grew to adulthood,
and I skipped the "teen driver" stage altogether.

Until recently, one of my current fantasies had been
getting a car and getting some of the freedoms I'd
lost so many years ago. Now with gas prices through
the stratosphere, the fantasy is fading fast.

There are times when I am bored out of my wits with
the small circle I travel by bus (luckily in a decent
neighborhood with several close bus routes) and wish
I could hop in a car and drive somewhere, anywhere
to "get away from it all". Ironically, I just helped
my daughter get her drivers' license, using one of
her friends' cars to take the test, which I had to
drive her to the DMV. For a too-brief time, I had
the rush of the sensation of being behind the wheel,
feeling "one with the machine". It ended all too
quickly, though. Now as an empty-nester, I'm resigned
to my two-wheel rolling cart as my "trunk" and my
trusty disabled bus pass as my "car". As the phrase
goes, "Those were the days..."

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Either/Or
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jul 24, 2008 3:31 AM   
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I'm sure this article has good intentions, but the negative tone reflects American consumer attitudes.

Being entirely without a car is limiting. But riding a train, bus, or bike can be a nice adventure, and a nice break from traffic, road rage, and spending half of your paycheck at the gas station.

The article speaks in terms of either/or, which simple-minded American consumers seem to be good at. Why not ride your bike and take the train when you can, and keep your car for when you really need it? Who says you have to give your car away and walk around in homemade sandals?

From my reading, our public trans. infrastructure is inferior to those in Europe and other countries. Even so, a lot of us have options we're not using, because we're too fat, lazy, and addicted to our cars. Plus, I think a lot of Americans are insecure, and don't want their friends to see them riding the bus, or a bike, or lugging around a backpack.

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» Spot on! Posted by: gnaw_bone
» RE: Spot on! Posted by: jroth420
» RE: Spot on! Posted by: Old Me
» RE: Spot on! Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: Either/Or Posted by: war_on_tara
» RE: ither/Or Posted by: Knot_Rich
» I hope you're right! Posted by: vangogh69
» RE: ither/Or Posted by: Tokyo Tuds
where you live...
Posted by: Moira61 on Jul 24, 2008 3:37 AM   
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makes all the difference. My car is about to give up the ghost - if it were a person it would be in hospice. I live in a small town in Ohio, with no public transportation and the largest grocery store over 10 miles away and on a curvy road without a shoulder to walk or ride a bike on. I also have a 13 year old son that I need to take to dental appointments - and what if he gets sick at school and needs me to come get him, or he misses the bus (he better not, but he's still a kid)? I wonder what I'm really going to do when the car finally quits - I really don't want to buy another, but I don't see NOT having to get one. I'd love to have a car share program nearby - that would be ideal but alas, it's not in the cards. I think a lot of people would give up their car if they lived in a city like the author, granted it's a hassle to give up the wheels, but you can still get around pretty easily.

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» RE: where you live... Posted by: Basenjis
I still have nightmares about driving after more than 20 wonderful car-free years
Posted by: Suzon on Jul 24, 2008 4:05 AM   
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I don't miss for a minute breathing carbon monoxide in underground car parks, having to worry about running out of gas, starting up on cold mornings, making insurance payments, getting repairs done or the brakes not working in an emergency. Yes, there were times when driving was pure pleasure. But that Master of the Universe buzz can all too suddenly turn into a horrendous flesh-and-bone-rending crash. It will be another three months before my former daughter-in-law can get out of her hospital bed and then she will have to decide whether or not to have risky back surgery.

Being car-free saves me money every day. How many hours do you have to work each year to support a vehicle which might get you killed or maimed?

Of course cars can be very useful and in some cases necessary, but I much prefer being a contented pedestrian who sometimes takes a taxi, bus or train ride. I like the sun on my face, the wind and even the rain in my hair. I like looking into gardens and the windows of people's houses. I like saying hello to cats. I like hearing the birds sing.

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I, For One, Don't Need To Be Carried
Posted by: smunslow on Jul 24, 2008 4:18 AM   
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I gave my car away four years ago and have loved every minute of it ... despite that I live in Coventry, RI, one of the least pedestrian- and bicycle-friendly suburbs imaginable.

I love the freedom, the $8,000 I save every year, the exercise, and, when I ride the bus, the time I save. Time on a bus is time you can use. You can read, write, work on a laptop, relax, even catch up on sleep. No time wasted in traffic jams, no time looking for a parking spot, no time filling up on $4.00 gas.

When others ask me why I live car-free, I have various answers, depending on the situation. "I'm not going to contribute unnecessarily to the destruction of the planet that my three daughters will be inheriting." or: "I enjoy the exercise." or: "I enjoy the freedom of not having to lug 4000 pounds of machinery around everywhere I go." But the answer that works best is: "I don't need to be carried everywhere. I'm not a baby. I'm not disabled. I have legs and they work great. Sure, I take the bus sometimes, but it's a choice I make. I'm not dependent on it."

You would be amazed how easy and rewarding it is to divorce your car and regain a sense of autonomy in your mobility. Yes, it requires some sacrifice. Yes, you have to think a bit and not just reach for your keys everytime you want to go somewhere.

And yes, you need to develop a new mindset, one that says, "My self-esteem is sufficient that I don't need the pseudo-esteem provided by the owning of a machine that operates at the cutting edge of 1880s-era technology, destroys the environment, forces me to feel disconnected from my community, makes me feel lazy and unable to move my own body, sucks my hard-earned dollars away by the thousands. I want freedom from fossil-fuel addiction, freedom from the guilt associated with the continuation of a behavior that is destroying the environment and sending soldiers to die in the desert so that I can maintain my addiction without impediment."

Be bold. Be daring. Be autonomous. Be responsible. Be energized. Be free. It feels great!

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» Thanks. great comment. Posted by: Beck
» RE: I, For One, Don't Need To Be Carried Posted by: beautifulady2003
» you missed my point Posted by: bizeeb
I am lucky
Posted by: rosweed on Jul 24, 2008 4:38 AM   
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I sold my car just after I moved to New York from San Francisco in 1997. This city has an excellent public transportation system and it's pretty easy for me to get around. My wife has a company car, so that makes it convenient for grocery shopping. If we didn't have that benefit then I'd take a cab. Carrying anything up and down the steps of the subway system is not an easy task. I feel for people like Moira61. Until we get serious about providing a workable public transportation system for everyone, the car is not going away.

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» RE: I am lucky Posted by: mnstra
Excuse me but uh most of America is nowhere near San Francisco's.
Posted by: jwverez on Jul 24, 2008 5:04 AM   
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Public transportation is usually expensive thanks to privatizing it, people's offices are often more than 10 miles away from their residences, and it's not as if the wimpy Democrats and the rubberstamp zombie GOP are gonna do anything to match let alone beat Europe's transportation infrastructure.

Besides, with LS9 inventing ways to generate light sweet crude oil from bugs (can you say RENEWABLE PETROLEUM), scientific discoveries of producing light sweet crude oil from algae, switchgrass and hemp proving to substitute for oil, and people cutting back their excess demands and going for fuel efficient vehicles or switching to electric replacements, I have a strong feeling that America ain't gonna give up their cars for the forseeable future.

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» RE: Problems with algae Posted by: Jasonix
» My apologies. Posted by: maxpayne
It's about infrastructure
Posted by: Urstrly on Jul 24, 2008 5:22 AM   
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I've always thought we made a huge mistake by abandoning our passenger rail system in this country; even Amtrak must rent rails from freight companies, I learned the last time I took the train. I think we can only go forward and re-imagine some new ways to move people and cargo and how we can supply ourselves locally with the things we need (and do without some things we thought we needed).

Living in NYC, I haven't had a car since 1974, but even here, not everything works smoothly. I can only imagine living in a rural area with children or a disability and no car.

One of the things this energy crisis could teach us if we would own up is that none of us lives outside the interdependent web of life, and the "ownership society" of Republicans is a hoax.

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I'm waiting for the alternative powered vehicle
Posted by: bdcroan on Jul 24, 2008 5:31 AM   
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When my RAV4 was new in 2000, usually I could fill the tank for just $13. The last time I filled it was $55, a 423% increase. Thank you republicans who have brought us to this. Recall that republicans are so concerned about SECURITY, but we had no plan to stop subsidizing terror when buying oil. Dah! So I hope congress sees the light at last. I try and limit my driving so that I buy 1 tank of gas a month, and am waiting for the next generation of car to be born -- green and clean.

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He's having trouble because he's trying to duplicate his car life
Posted by: Beck on Jul 24, 2008 5:35 AM   
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When you switch to a bike, your life needs to change. You don't stay devoted to faraway stores that take hours of your day to reach. It should rearrange your life. It's made mine easier, not harder. I don't have to remember everything at the store, or combine errands. Riding a bike is a pleasure, and making two trips in a day to nearby places is good, not bad. Going to the store two days in a row, if I forgot something, is not the hassle on a bike it is with a car. Any modern version of doing a task has reduced it to only the accomplishment of the task. But biking or walking has its own reward; it's not just something to get over with.

The point of simplifying one's life and living greener isn't to duplicate the former life. It's to change it and make it easier. If, like this writer, it's "not easy", some further adjustment should happen. We can't do this if it's this hard. I've been surprised at how doable it is, even in a city that is not at all bike-friendly. I thought it would be hard, but didn't find that to be true. I'm surprised at the struggle this writer is having, and at the burdened tone.

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» Ok? Where do you live in? Posted by: maxpayne
» Excellent point. Posted by: Artkansas
» it is more than that though... Posted by: itmeantnothing
carless in america...
Posted by: ellie on Jul 24, 2008 5:36 AM   
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many mass transit systems are cutting back on bus routes due to fuel costs so many people who might have the option to use it are going to be stuck...

many large employers are not on a bus route... the company might have started in an urban area then bought land for a corporate 'campus' out in the middle of no-where, leaving it's urban employees inside the cities...

lack of bike lanes or paths that go anywhere besides around a park...

the list goes on, this is what we get for going to the interstate system instead of a mass transit combo in the 60's-70's... not defending driving but looking at the reality facing this country...

for schools who are already cash strapped around here, they cut out high school school buses and did away with neighborhood high schools years ago where students are assigned to schools all over this fairly large city to to get more of an ethnic mix in the classroom...

kids got a bus pass and now the school system doesn't have the $$ to pay for the passes and the families are going to have to pay for them at a reduced rate (regular monthly pass = $45.00, high school student pass limited to school transport only times = $40.00)... parents who are low income are raising hell because they do not have the extra $$ for the danged pass to keep their kids in school, but the truant officers will still be trolling for truant kids...

this is a mess here in the midwest...

back to coffee...

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» a mess here in the midwest Posted by: rosalux
Free at Last
Posted by: beautifulady2003 on Jul 24, 2008 5:42 AM   
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I gave up my car 4 years ago, and most of the time I don't miss it. I ride the bus to and from work (I am fortunate enough to have a good public transportation system where I live and work) for a paltry $66 per month. For other trips, I go with friends or take taxis, which cuts down on the number of unnecessary and unplanned trips. I hate shopping and so I do most of it online. With all the money I've saved, I'm about to take my second vacation outside the country this year. I love the freedom from the expense of owning and driving a car.

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» RE: Free at Last Posted by: jroth420
» RE: Free at Last Posted by: Stell
» So what city do you live in? Posted by: maxpayne
Europe and Asia didn't change their infrastructure overnight. It took decades.
Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 24, 2008 5:45 AM   
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Look, when the price of oil was above $3 a gallon, Europe and Asia prepared alternative transportation options for the public unlike America where people electing pro Big Oil/Auto/Coal pols to sit in as puppets for those interests. Right now, even if gas hits $10 a gallon, America's dependencies on autos and foreign oil won't go down until more people choose to make changes to improve its public transportation infrastructure first on local followed by regional finally on a national level. In most places in this country, public buses and trains are miles out of reach for most people and scheduling is piss poor. And don't go lecturing people about riding their bikes or even walking to work when their home addresses are 20+ miles away. It is going to take at least a decade to improve public transportation. Given the corrupt two party system in Washington that is hostile to public transportation, I strongly suggest you first go LOCAL, build it up on a state level, and then connecting state by state.

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As I had feared...
Posted by: TagsNOLA on Jul 24, 2008 6:22 AM   
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... and as promised by Obama, the next administration will, in terms of the economy, be a reprise of Jimmy ("lowered expectations") Carter.

This whole "greenie" crap is based on inconvenient LIES by that charlatan Al Gore and other creeps of his ilk whose target is exactly the same as the Bush administration and the Carter administration. On one point leaders of the Democrat and Republican parties are in complete accord. They want to destroy the American middle class. It's OK for the elite to have their limo's, mansions, 2nd homes and executive jets. But for the middle class to aspire to a home in the burbs, the freedom of private auto ownership and a few nice extras, well we're just way out of line to want that.

CO2 is NOT a green house gas. That's just a lie. It's a LIE, not a settled issue. Hundreds of scientists have stepped up to the line to refute this lie at great risk to their professional careers. Thousands more have been cowed into silence for fear of being blacklisted for "scientific heresy."

Citizens who willingly buy off on this kind of step backwards, giving up their cars, are no better than lemmings, marching into the sea. The bastards who are preaching that we should learn to live with less have no intention of joining us in our privations. They'll just setup corporations and buy "carbon credits" from themselves.

Short term, we need to drill for oil, not in those areas where we are allowed. There is NO FREAKING OIL THERE. We need to drill offshore and in ANWR, NOW! We could get at that oil much faster than 10 years if we wanted to. This country rebounded from Pearl Harbor to the deck of USS Missourri in Tokyo Bay in 3 years and 10 months! Don't tell me it takes 10 years to bring an oil field into production.

Medium term, we need nukes and long term, we need massive funding of fusion energy research along with strong incentives for US auto manufacturers to develop better and more reasonably priced hybrids.

The governor of Montana has proposed an energy plan based on hybrid autos. He observed that most of our driving is less than 40 miles a day, not enough for the internal combustion engine to be needed. The car would be plugged in during the evenings. Any residual charge remaining in the battery would drain into the electricity grid and the local electric utility would be REQUIRED to buy it back at peak energy rates. Then at 2:00 am or there about, The connection would reverse and recharge the battery in the car when energy demand and energy RATES are lowest.

Near, medium and long term solutions ARE available to reduce our citizens' energy costs, but they would not substantially diminish the living standards of the US middle class and so they are out of bounds unless more of our citizens decide to stop drinking the coolade and demand policies that truly serve the general welfare.

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» RE: As I had feared... Posted by: TagsNOLA
» RE: Only 10 Months.... Posted by: sasquuatch55
» RE: Only 10 Months.... Posted by: TagsNOLA
» RE: As I had feared... Posted by: peacefullaim
IF you live in a city...
Posted by: phatkhat on Jul 24, 2008 6:23 AM   
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especially a large city, giving up your car may be doable. But those of us who live in rural areas can't do it. Bikes are not practical on country highways without shoulders and frequented by speeding trucks. (Get right next to a big truck traveling 60 mph, and see how close to a hurricane it feels.)

I'm really glad y'all can pat yourselves on the back about how green you are, and how EVERYONE needs to be just like you. Well, maxpayne said, it ain't gonna happen overnight. Until we catch up with the Asians and Europeans on public transport, using cars will continue.

Also consider scale. European and Asian countries (China excluded) are small, and the people are concentrated in and around towns and cities, due to greenbelt ordinances. Good for public transport, but the people who DO live in the country have cars, for sure.

If anyone loves cars more than Americans, it is - GASP!!! - the Germans. Yes, those pioneers of green LOVE cars, and most of them own one. Somehow, their auto manufacturers know how to get great performance out of 4-cylinders, and great fuel economy to boot. Of course, THEY have been paying way more than us for petrol for decades.

I drive an 11-year-old Nissan pickup, and like someone else said, went from the $13 fillup to the $55 fillup, and try to make a tank last all month. I live 5 miles from town (no, I can't walk that far, I'm 60 and have arthritis), and try to consolidate my errands. I have a house under 1,000 sq. ft., and basically live frugally, shopping at thrift stores, donating my aluminum to the animal shelter, and recycling as much as possible.

I, too, buy online instead of going to the city to shop (all we have here is WalMart), or have local shops order things for me. I buy and sell on eBay, which turns out to be similar to barter: I get rid of my stuff and get someone else's, LOL.

We all have to decide for ourselves at what level of green we can function. Obviously the great guru Gore can't function at the level I do. His carbon footprint is a whole lot bigger than mine is, and until HE is willing to downsize and walk the talk, he can STFU as far as I'm concerned.

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» Most people do live in cities. Posted by: Artkansas
so...what about us in the rural areas?
Posted by: zooeyhall on Jul 24, 2008 6:44 AM   
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I truly think the vast majority of Alternet's readers live on either the east or the west coasts, and seem to assume the that vast space in between is inhabited by some quaint aborigines--happily frolicking among the cornfields.

I live in rural Nebraska where I farm the farm my Dad moved to in 1940. My local town is 444 people (down from 550 ten years ago). We have no grocery store and only a quik-mart/gas station (where you pay $6 for a gallon of milk). It is 40 miles to the nearest GP physician and county hospital. There is no hardware store or building supply store in my town. No pharmacy.

People who write these articles--and many of the posters--who blithely say that you can live without a car don't have a CLUE about life in rural America! But worse then the ignorance is an elitist attitude that underlies their view of rural people and rural America.

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Capitulation
Posted by: corgyn on Jul 24, 2008 6:57 AM   
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To surrender the American Way of independence, mobility and self-determination is to surrender personal transportation in favor of the communitarian submission to the soul-draining life of a public transit peon. Shoot me before I have a bus pass.
Human power [peddle bikes] as a serious component of a AMERICAN transportation system is simply laughable. Portland, OR, sure. Summer in Houston, winter in Denver. 99.5% of Americans are not going to ride a bike to work. I bet in the million plus people in Bexar County Texas [San Antonio] you couldn't find 100 bike commuters on most days. Oh you see the colorful spandex crowd in the suburbs at sunset & weekends but that's not transportation, it's recreation.

New engines, fuel sources, even shared but self-driven auto schemes - but buses and commuter trains NO WAY

The auto industry is still a big part of the economy. A fast track to recovery is a Gov't supported trade-in plan where the loss of "book" value in a V8 SUV is compensated when a US-made econo car is purchased. The Gov't could buy up SUVs and modify the nation's fleet fuel efficiency. There's serious savings in the amount of imported oil.

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Cold Turkey
Posted by: mikehattan on Jul 24, 2008 7:22 AM   
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No need to go cold turkey at this point. If you were in Vietnam or any Asian or European city for that matter,surely you must have had either a mobylette or a scooter like thousands of others. Why not just downsize to a scooter? I recently bought a Wildfire scooter just for nipping around town and I get 100 mpg and the thrill of being out in the sun and smelling the country road scents is an experience that one just doesn't get in a car. I am able to say Hi to people that I pass on the street in town and see more because one sits higher than almost at ground level like in some cars. I can heartily recommend scooter travel. It definitely is the way to go until we find a viable alternative to fossil fuels. Mike.

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Cars and Big Oil
Posted by: boing007 on Jul 24, 2008 7:27 AM   
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Can anyone tell me why Enron and the others won't drill on all they land they own? Is it because there is no oil there? And if that is true are the oil companies getting tax breaks just because they own this land and are not exploiting it?

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What About Semi Trucks
Posted by: theVRWCwhodatesLiberals on Jul 24, 2008 7:35 AM   
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Unless Best Buy is delivering your Flat Screen on a yak power cart or Canal use is all of a sudden regenerated, I think I'll stick with my Chevy. Most people tend to forget how things get from point A to point B to your store front and home. You guys can go live like its the 19th century. I think I'll be like Asia and just keep growing "smartly"

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Similar to AlterNet's vegetarian writers
Posted by: war_on_tara on Jul 24, 2008 7:57 AM   
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Can't help but notice how similar this article is in tone to all the pro-veg preaching here. There is rarely (or never?) an article urging LESS meat-eating - it's always presented as an either/or.

I'm in a Boston suburb and don't own a car either, and eat meat maybe 2 or 3 days a week. But I realize that the number of people who are likely to give up cars entirely, or give up meat entirely, is pretty small!

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Car Free For Over 3 Years
Posted by: Gravitas on Jul 24, 2008 8:12 AM   
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I made a choice to give up my car 3 years ago. The only real personal benefit is that it allowed me to save money. Otherwise I find it living hell. Taking public transportation in Chicago means being crammed on an unreliable el or bus with blasting I-Pods, cell phone yakers and gum chompers. (I have never heard anyone chomp and crack gum as loudly as Chitown.) And I can't forget the smokers who choose to light up in crowded bus shelter rather than go a few feet down. It doesn't have to be that way. My Amtrak ride up to Milwaukee was bliss. They have a quiet car. Maybe if people learned two cents worth of manners the ride would be more tolerable!

I do think he is on to something though, in that cars represent independence. As I sit in the el terminals I notice that no matter how high the price of gas, people still commute by themselves. One woman told me her car was the only time she got to be alone. Truly, it is hard to be alone in a city as big as Chicago. If they give up their cars, some new social institution to provide solitude will have to take its place.

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This topic is going to become more and more popular
Posted by: Stell on Jul 24, 2008 8:14 AM   
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Around water coolers, at family dinners, in bars.

Those of us who live in urban areas and can reasonably do without a car, or at least drastically cut down on our driving (if we are lucky enough to be able to afford the registration, insurance, and maintenance), for instance, for out of town trips only, have an obligation to do so.

This discussion does NOT have to become one of lucky urbanites lecturing everyone else about the immorality of their "lifestyle choices", however; some people do live in suburbs out of necessity; some people live in small towns with no public transport; some people live in the country. All these people are part of our society and economy, and there are legitimate reasons for living in all these situations. I do think that suburbs are bound to shrink and inner cities be repopulated in the coming decades, but, as a lucky urbanite who walks to work, I do not feel the need to be superior over people who are trapped into car dependency. People with children, especially, cannot just up and move. People with no savings and very limited disposable income (which is many if not most Americans) cannot just up and move.

Massive changes need to happen to move us toward a sustainable society. And they will; it's now inevitable.

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Nice to see you've joined the club
Posted by: Daytripper 69 on Jul 24, 2008 8:20 AM   
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Well, way to go dude. I've lived my entire adult life without a car, and I've been eligible for a DL for 35 years now. Nothing wrong with declaring yourself independent and no longer an oil-serf. But do recognize, that, some of us have adapted to this way of life well, and successfully, for decades before it became in, and trendy and necessary as it is these days. Some of us just had more foresight than the rest of ya.

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PGB
Posted by: fungus on Jul 24, 2008 8:29 AM   
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Good comments. One sad thing is that people in many parts of the world seem to think the American lifestyle - fast cars, big houses, lots of stuff is the way to go. Part of the problem is that many American movies and tv shows promote the consumer culture worldwide. I often wonder how we can present the idea that consumer capitalism isn't necessarily the good life.

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Almost care-free
Posted by: robalb on Jul 24, 2008 8:28 AM   
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I lost my car in 2002 when, after losing my job to the 9/11 economic tumble, I could no longer afford one. At first, my thinking remained in the box: life as I knew it was over! Now, somewhere in the intervening six years, I have abandoned the box and enjoy not driving. My wife still has a car, so I ride in it, but I have no desire to own one myself. This morning, I enjoyed reading a book while taking the bus to work. I appreciate the comments above that pointed out that not every place has good public transport or is pedestrian- or bicycle-friendly. But, as Mr. Gore pointed out so eloquently, (in my own words, here) we need to get outside the box that this corporate culture has put us in. Start making the changes we want to see.

One tiny point: Mr. Gore pointedly did NOT use the words "fossil fuels." He said "bio-fuels." That means ethanol (terrible idea since it pulls food out of the food chain and burns it up) as well as coal and oil. I think it's an important distinction.

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Other alternatives and limitations
Posted by: reelectnoone on Jul 24, 2008 9:04 AM   
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You don't have to give up cars...just give up gasoline. A pure electric car can be charged at home and will take most people wherever then need to go. You can rent a car for a longer trip.

Some of us live where there is no public transportation at all. Also, many, like myself, have handicaps that prevent us from walking or riding a bike. Powered transportation is not a luxury when you need food. It is the only way to go get anything or to get to a doctor etc.

In the old "pre automobile" days people were more self sufficient, grew food in the yard, raised a cow for milk or such. We moved to cities to earn more money and could walk to work. But as we earned more and cities became dirty and crowded we moved to suburbs and drove to work.

Now we are trapped in these homes we can't sell and trapped into driving to almost everything we need because of the distance.

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I Owe my mechanic $500.00 and am unemployed. My drivers license is temporarily suspended anyhow.
Posted by: yellow on Jul 24, 2008 9:10 AM   
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I should probably just give him the car in lieu of payment. It's runs good now and is probably worth more than $500.00 anyway. I've got nowhere I especially need to go. And gas prices are really outrageous.

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If You Want Fewer Cars, Give Us Real Transit
Posted by: lorenbliss on Jul 24, 2008 9:12 AM   
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I am always astounded by the self-righteous arrogance of the give-up-your-cars elitists: their obvious hatred of the working class and their absolute ignorance of our circumstances is truly breathtaking. It is another of the reasons Moron Nation is powerless to resist the advent of tyranny

Ironically our never-to-be-solved transportation crisis is largely spawned by the same contempt for the working class -- the reason environmentalists never fight for adequate public transport: trolleys, subways and trains, all powered by electricity and running on tracks that cannot be interdicted by traffic jams. Which is why the United States has the worst public transport in the industrial world.

Note the Puget Sound example: its people smugly proclaim themselves the most environmentally enlightened folk on the planet but condemn mass transit as “Manhattanization,” the ultimate threat to their “Pacific Northwest Lifestyle.” Over the past 40 years they defeated five of six transit proposals and so sabotaged the sixth it is a decade behind schedule. And now these same self-appointed gurus of green denounce us as ecocidal reactionaries because we won’t trade our automobiles for bicycles, hiking boots or herky-jerky buses.

We drive cars because we have no choice. When the bourgeois environmentalists should have been demanding adequate transit, they were instead lobbying for posh solar homes, unaffordable unless one is a near-millionaire and now like all other such technology thrust permanently out of working-class reach by skyrocketing inflation. As a direct result of the yes-on-solar, no-on-transit greed, there are now millions of women and men laboring 14, 16, 18-hour days because they can’t afford gasoline and have to spend five, seven, nine hours riding buses to and from their jobs. But the gurus of green -- insulated as they are by their trust funds -- viciously applaud this savagery as environmental victory.

There are millions more men and women like me: I am physically unable to give up my car. I am 68 years old; my arthritic knees will never pedal a bicycle again nor even walk more than a few blocks. Through 2006, I regularly walked one or two miles for exercise. But then my arthritis worsened, and now during the rainy season, September to July, I can only hobble with a cane. Moreover, the job essential to supplement my tiny Social Security pension -- thanks to capitalism, I will literally have to work until I drop dead -- is 17 miles from here, seven of those miles beyond reach of the (minimal) bus service. The only way to get there is to drive.

The lack of transit is geometrically intensified by the plague of Mad Mall Disease that has totally destroyed central business districts and replaced them with shopping malls. Again, real-world examples: when I lived in Manhattan -- whether the Lower East Side, the Village, Chelsea or the Upper West Side -- I could complete all my weekly shopping and errands in about three hours. Here those same chores require least eight hours by automobile and take at least three days by bus.

There are no accidents in capitalism: essential businesses -- groceries, pharmacies etc. -- were deliberately scattered to force us into ever deeper enslavement to Big Oil and Big Automotive. Buses are Big Oil/Big Automotive products that guarantee our continued oppression by the petro-motive plutocracy. Since it is obvious the U.S. transit deficit is forever, forcing us to abandon our automobiles merely shifts Big Oil/Big Automotive profit-taking to buses. Which -- given the huge anti-transit bias of the U.S. environmental movement -- raises an infinitely damning question of its deliberate role in our subjugation.

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"I win"
Posted by: g50 on Jul 24, 2008 9:37 AM   
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I've never had a car. I like walking. Correction - I love walking. Sometimes I take the el train, though people are rude and loud so I do it rarely, I kind of hate it. The commuter trains are much nicer: faster, quieter. Sometimes I'll get on a bus if one of my bus-loving friends takes it, but I think they are dirty and slow. AMTRAK takes you between cities that are too near one another to fly the distance, and for the longer traveling the airliners go anywhere pretty damned fast. Every now and then I use one of the car sharing services, maybe once or twice a month when it is warm and three times a month when it is cold. I'll get in a cab once or twice a week. Sometimes a friend picks me up from the train station, though I have taken the commuter bus. I love that it takes longer. Walking or taking some kind of transport is a great time to think or read or look at the city or countryside. Or tune out with an iPod music library. Still, my favorite are the five, ten mile walks in the middle of the night. Two weeks ago I walked straight through a thunderstorm - fortunately I was not struck by lightning. Yea, I can say it, I'm awesome.

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No car here
Posted by: Quannah on Jul 24, 2008 10:06 AM   
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I gave up my car more than six years ago. I don't miss it one bit. I especially don't miss the expensive trips to the gas station, or the cost of insurance, or paying to have it licensed and inspected, or the maintainence or repairs when something breaks down, or...

It may be inconvenient at some times, but it's worth the trade-off. I won't drive again.

It is harder for those people living in rural areas, though. They don't have much choice. But if you live in a city, you can live car-free just fine with a little time-management.

Glad to see this article. One thing that many people could do that would make a difference.

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Living without a car is generally impractical
Posted by: blogbooks on Jul 24, 2008 10:23 AM   
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I lived without a car for 2 years. The only reason it was possible is that:

Work was a 10-20 minute walk away.
Eating establishments were a 5-10 minute walk.
I was in a generally good climate.
A large "Wal-mart" style store and grocery store were within walking distance.
Anything else I wanted could be ordered online and shipped to me.

I could live without a car now, but going to job interviews/corporate offices that aren't metro accessible would be impossible.

Waiting for the bus sucks. You think it's bad spending huge portions of your life driving to and from work? Double it and add in the noise, smells, and crazy people you meet while taking public transportation.

This isn't Europe. I lived in Italy for years. There are thousands of tiny villages that are largely self sufficient. People bike to where they need to be or take the bus to the nearest "city" or take the train.

All impossible in the vast majority of the U.S.

Not everyone lives in San Francisco (one of the very best public transportation systems in the United States, Bay Area Transit System) or some yuppy suburb.

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I gave up my car
Posted by: badkitty on Jul 24, 2008 10:38 AM   
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I gave up my car last month--it was 24 years old and was too hard to smog. But I have to say, my parents didn't get a car until I was five (1955)--we went everywhere on bicycles and they had seats on the back for my brother and me. They really disliked cars and never lived in a house that was not within biking distance of my dad's (and later my mom's) work and close to a good grocery store. That was their choice. I myself did not learn to drive until I was 34 when I had to take my son to nursery school.

Where I live, it makes way more sense to take the transbay bus into San Francisco rather than drive. I have friends I met on the bus (that's the group of middle aged ladies yakking it up on the G) and none of them own cars--we all take the bus--local or transbay--all the time. Since I'm married, I'm now using my husband's car to go grocery shopping, but everyone else has a little shopping cart like I had before I was married. I do notice that a lot of big companies (Genentech, Yahoo, etc.) have their own shuttles that pick up at central points.

I think if people thought about how they would get around if they didn't have cars before we ran head on into expensive gas, they'd be a lot better off and there would have been fewer suburbs. For people living out in the country, like zooeyhall, I really think they will always have to drive, unless horses come back in vogue. For farmers and people in small towns without resources, perhaps there will have to be some sort of tax break or subsidy to allow them to buy gas without breaking the bank.

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Recovering
Posted by: maxfactor on Jul 24, 2008 10:45 AM   
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May I introduce myself to the CAA group: My name is O. and I am a recovering car addict. Haven`t kicked the habit yet completely but getting closer everday. In Europe that`s easier, bus service into the suburbs, train- and tramlines every half mile apart, rentacar coops that most of the time have cars available.Grocery stores deliver to your home. But then shopping is bicyle or walking distance only. I keep my 38 year old oldtimer-jeep - gets me everywhere if needs arise on a budget. Every car not built saves the planet.

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Don't Break Your Arms...
Posted by: sableskin on Jul 24, 2008 10:51 AM   
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patting yourselves on the back!

Yes, going w/o a car may be eco-friendy, but it is not always family friendly, job-friendly, life-friendly, all of which must be accomodated as well! I live in the DC metro area, carpool, use public transport and limit my travel, and I still know that car-less is not always an option.

My job is 30 mins from me w/no traffic. During rush hour, my commute can go up to 3 hrs. My rent/mortgage is directly proportional to that. Any further in, and those prices go up exponentially. If I was working class, I could never afford it. Public transit is unreliable, and prohibitively expensive, in addition to everything else. The idea of biking is a joke! I see just as many people who don't drive b/c they cannot afford it--independent of gas prices. Before we accept that those who drive have no interest in the environment, we have to include (which Alternet seems to ignore on a regular basis) those whose options reflect lack of resources (money, education access), instead of those who just exercise the 'luxury' of living green. Poverty is expensive, green is expensive, when the world is based on gas. Alot of people are just trying to make it, and the option of life-changes is something they cannot afford in a society not geared for it. The want to make sure the day's next meal ends up on the table.

It is patronizing to "champion" the interests of the poor while continuing to ignore their day-to-day struggle, i.e, 'clean air' and how to get it.

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» RE: Don't Break Your Arms... Posted by: mnlefty
I gave up driving
Posted by: wireup on Jul 24, 2008 10:51 AM   
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at the end of 2006 when I moved to Philadelphia, a city I chose because it is very very liveable, very affordable, AND it has a terrific public transportation system.

And I haven't regretted it once!

Public transportation here is excellent. And I use it when I need it. But, mainly, I WALK everywhere, often miles every day. And I love this.

If I wanted to drive, there is Philly Car Share. For a few dollars I can use one of the many many cars available for an hour or for more than that.

But, I have no desire to ever drive again. And I don't miss having a car.

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» RE: I gave up driving Posted by: johnofphilly
Live In A Rural Area? good luck
Posted by: harpy on Jul 24, 2008 12:55 PM   
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I'd love to get rid of the car, but -Many of us live either in rural areas, or in cities that have no public transportation. A bicycle here is impossible - way too many hills and way too far to go. Riding a bicycle 20 miles to work (many here have a 40 mile one-way ride) would take forever and by the time you got there you would be too sweaty, smelly, and too tired to accomplish anything. In winter, no way through the sleet, rain, cold, and snow and icy roads. Public transportation here is a small bus with a very limited route and just going a round trip across town (approximately 5 miles each way) would take about 4 hours. You could walk it, but by the time you got there - same as above. As for a scooter - rain, snow, sleet, etc, same as above.

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» RE: Live In A Rural Area? good luck Posted by: tommy_slothrop
Its hard to live up to the Eco-Great
Posted by: zooeyhall on Jul 24, 2008 1:33 PM   
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I'm in such despair because I can't live up to the standard of the Green Great ones such as the writer of this article. Somehow, the Great Mother Earth Enlightenment has failed me because I sure don't have the smarts to get a living-wage job within 5 minutes walk of my home. It must be great to live in the heaven of San Francisco and the other PC enclaves of the eco-righteous, because here I am banished to the wastelands of rural mid-America (yes all you Greens out there in sunny CA--there ARE actually poor souls who live out here in the wastelands between SF and NYC!) And yes..it is tough as hell to get organic tofu out here; which has forced me into the sin of eating MEAT! (The horror! The horror!) And being forced to shop at WalMart as the only place I can afford to buy things--indeed sometimes the ONLY place available to buy things today in rural America.

Someday I truly hope to aspire to your level of eco-ecstacy! Thank you for condescending to write articles like this to show the Unwashed Masses the error of our ways!

In the meantime, I will try to perform my usual Green Ritual that someday may help me aspire to Green Sainthood: jerk-off to a picture of Al Gore.

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It's not easy, but...
Posted by: vangogh69 on Jul 24, 2008 2:16 PM   
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US public transportation has been de-invested in for years while the glass was full. NOw that it's empty, people are starting to say WTF...I for one hope the trend continues! Driving, something the author identifies as uniquely American, is not the pleasure we pretend it is, with many of us rushing through lights to get to places not worthy of our time or sitting next to each other in traffic in glass coffins. You only need to observe traffic on a bike or on foot to see the bit of insanity in it. Our clinging to the car, like our clinging to notions of "private property" has something deeply pathological about it and is the result of an alienated and confused society.

As far as the original author quoting Al Gore, let me just say that the author could find better. What kills me about Gore & Co. is how they talk all this "green" without ever addressing the economic system and corporate control responsible for our (destructive) way of life today. Am I the only one disgusted with Al Gore?

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» RE: It's not easy, but... Posted by: maxpayne
Doing right feels good
Posted by: Jnutter on Jul 24, 2008 3:15 PM   
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I scrapped my car in October 2001. I saw the writing on the wall when those planes hit those buildings and I just could no longer personally pay the death & destruction tax that comes with a gallon of gas. This is one decision that I feel unequivocally good about.

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I grew up on a farm 10 miles from the nearest town. Where I live now,
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jul 24, 2008 6:22 PM   
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50 miles away, still has almost no public transport. The town has no taxi(at the moment). There is a jitney for senior citizens and the disabled. There is no way I could get to a railhead, an airport, or a bus station without an automobile.

So what does all of this mean? Probably, it means that our infrasture is just wrong. We can't change the past, but we sure can start from here.

Do you want to know how to get everybody to abandon the automobile? Its easy. Just design public transportation that is faster than the automobile. Then everytime anybody is late for anything they can't take the car. They will soon be weaned.

Much of the time in the United States having a car and employment is the same thing. If you don't have a car you can't get to work. Most of Europe does not drive to work. If the car doesn't start here you miss work. Its not so there.

To a Eurpoean if the car doesn't start they postpone their weekend pleasure trip to the next weekend. They get it fixed during the week while they take their public transport to work. Because of this many European cars are ill suited to the U. S. market.

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Spare Me the Faux Indignation
Posted by: vivachavez on Jul 24, 2008 7:55 PM   
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Advocating for changes in the American lifestyle of greed, individualism, and overconsumption of useless crap from big box stores that lower the standards of living in the communities in which they are located, is not elitist at all. It is smart and foresighted.



53% of Americans live within 50 miles of a coastline, so these "coastal elites" that you pathetic salt-of-the-earth folks deride make up a considerable portion of the nation's population as well as its economic output. They pay the taxes that go to your impoverished, obese, and underreducated states.

Government at all levels made this nation sprawled and autocentric. It is not some magical market force at play. If it was, then it would be an indictment of the market for producing a system of development that was destined for the dustbins of history and predicated on unsustainable consumption patterns.

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Trying to break free from auto addiction
Posted by: BobS on Jul 24, 2008 10:29 PM   
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Our 1999 Saturn station wagon has less than 30,000 miles on it and now rarely makes it out of the garage. We have a little red Radio Flyer and a bike trailer for groceries and Chicago's CTA for most of our local transit. I only wish we could take our bikes on the Metra trains which go to outlying areas with better bike trails.

Of course I live in Oak Park Il which is a 15 minute walk to Chicago and has 3 rail lines running though it and convenient shopping for food and basic supplies. Not everyone is so fortunate. Working class people in rural and small town America are really screwed right now.

Our small rebellion against the tyranny of the automobile isn't much by itself, but I notice people looking approvingly at our Radio Flyer or our bike trailer full of groceries.

Maybe the message is slowly getting through.

Bob Simpson
The BobboSphere

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Spare me the absolutism.
Posted by: mjabele on Jul 25, 2008 5:16 AM   
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Being "progressive" meant, in the past at least, that one empathized with one's fellow citizens' social and economic situation - another way of saying that one understood people's limitations, and was interested in reducing them and expanding people's social and economic horizons.

Judging from this particular thread and some others, however, there seem to be many posters who feel that being "progressive" means caring about the environment, to the exclusion of anything else, and that those of us who find themselves unable to comply with a particular "diktat" - typically phrased in pretty absolutist terms, such as giving up one's car (rather than just driving less) or giving up all meat consumption (rather than just eating less meat) - cannot be viewed as "progressives", even if we care about other "traditional" progressive issues such as the welfare of the poor, universal health care, or the rights of women and minorities.

Not everyone can eliminate the automobile entirely from his or her life at this particular second. Many of us do not live in cities, many of us cannot change our jobs at the drop of a hat, many of us are not in a position to move out of our current homes right now. Driving LESS is something that will likely happen by itself for most of us, given the spiraling cost of gasoline, but there's no need to be as absolutist and, frankly, unempathetic as many posters, whose comments often show an amazing degree of self-centeredness and inability to conceive of any socio-economic situation other than own individual one.

For me personally, environmentalism represents merely one thread in what it means to be "progressive" nowadays. Improving ordinary people's economic situation strikes me as equally important - and frankly, it strikes me that the one issue (i.e., the environmental agenda) will probably never be accepted by the general public unless the other (i.e., economic interests) are seen to be addressed in tandem. Kind of like the great national parks in Africa, which were constantly threatened by poaching from the impoverished people living around the edges - until the economic interests of those folks were recognized and addressed, the plundering continued. Similarly, I don't think most ordinary Americans will have the luxury of doing "pro-environmental" things like giving up their automobile unless their individual economic situation somehow enables them to - or steps are taken by the powers that be to improve that situation somewhat, i.e., by expanding mass transit, raising the minimum wage, and/or fixing the mortgage crisis.

There's something to be said for toning down the absolutism of one's individual discourse as well. Telling other posters about one's own individual success and then blabbing on about how they should give up their cars without knowing much or even anything about their individual situations comes across to many of us, rightly I think, as patronizing and self-aggrandizing. No one likes to be talked down to; there's no better way, frankly, to get someone to reject your message than to adopt such a tone.

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In Some Areas, Going Carless Means You Depend On People With Cars
Posted by: Libertine on Jul 25, 2008 9:34 AM   
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Like many of the commenters above, I live in an area where public transportation is extremely limited, where most people live miles from their jobs and shopping areas, where taxi service is limited and expensive, where it's hot 9 months out of the year, and where much of the area is unsafe and impractical for bike travel.

Add to this the truth that most employers, at least in my area, see a person without a car as being by definition unreliable. Indeed, I've filled out job applications where applicants are asked how they will be getting to work each day, and if they have a car.

In my area, unless you live next door to your job and/or the grocery store, Wal Mart, the doctor's office, the school,etc, you spend a lot of time depending up on other people with cars, waiting around for them to come pick you up at their convenience. Instead of becoming independent, you have increased your dependence on the goodwill of people with cars.

Going carless may work in cities where public transportation is plentiful and reliable, but it's impractical in many other places. A one-size-fits-all solution won't work any better here than it does with most other sorts of problems. Nor does an all-or-nothing approach.

I drive a small car. I don't go joyriding anymore -- I plan my trips and routes carefully, so as to use the least amount of gas. I stay home more. I shop online often. These are small steps, but they are steps and they are easy and practical to do, which makes adhering to them more likely.

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ba
Posted by: mnstra on Jul 25, 2008 11:35 AM   
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In Atlanta if you walk or ride a bike you take your life in your own hands,Few sidewalks absolutely moronic hostile drivers .,Having steel and plastic around me in my car is very comforting.I can reduce my driving like combine trips, drive within the speed limits or slower, don't use a heavy foot, do not drive for fun with out a purpose in mind.No more Sunday drives etc. etc.It is not all or none for me and I don't think any body should tell anybody to get rid of their cars, There can be grave consequences for each person who chooses no to drive any more.

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» RE: ATL Posted by: rosalux
Vehicular Cycling is still a brain-freeze moment for socal cities...
Posted by: DaBear on Jul 25, 2008 11:59 AM   
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We're having to use our petrol-fueled-vehicles less and less, we only take them when we cannot get someplace via public transit (which takes 4 hours one-way in Ventura county to do anything) or bicycles.

Cycling is certainly better for us, but despite our city's latest push to promote cycling, it's fraught with all manner of phobias and batshit stoopid. Ever sit down and read the California bicycling manual they give kids? It's some of the worst writing ever, not to mention batshit stoopid advice (" when approaching an intersection [while riding on the street] get off your bike and walk" um... yeah.). A decade ago I had no car and I rode everwhere with my two boogers in a Burley trailer. I obeyed the CA Motor Vehicle Code which means I'm a vehicle like a car (just slower and more narrow). Yet I was routinely harrassed by nervous nellie cops and ignorant car drivers. A decade later I'm back on the bike, but now my kids are riding too. Despite the city's official attitude change, there's still a butt-load of batshit stoopidity passing for "wisdom" and "planning" in the pro-cycling community here. We're tryin to overcome it all but it takes daily vigilance and tons of work.

The switch out of a car, outside San Francisco, is complicated, worthwhile, but damned complicated because it's literally an act of open rebellion, activism and vehicular war just to get to the grocery store (where there still isn't a bike rack and you get ticketed for locking your bike to a signpost or tree). I don't see a mass movement of 'Merkaaners getting out of cars and hopping onto their bikes any time soon. But I hope all the crap I have to wade through every day to do it for myself will pave a smoother transition for those less willing or able to wage war with their community just to get out of the flush-cash-down-the-toilet car ownership mode.

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Gasoline Stimulant
Posted by: puush on Jul 26, 2008 3:39 AM   
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Outcome of Electrolysis Cell Testing from Southwest Research Institute

www.gasadvancesystem.com/Sothwest%20Research%20Test.pdf

A Hydrogen Electrolyzer is a cheap and practical solution and it works on my cars and a few of my customers cars. Experts please read the report I mention before you bash me. thanks

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carless since July 02
Posted by: dadanbetty on Jul 26, 2008 4:06 AM   
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I went carless in July 2002 in Tampa, Florida. Of course I had to leave Tampa then.

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» Of course... Posted by: abrunvand
Energy non crisis
Posted by: montanainsurgeant on Jul 28, 2008 8:30 AM   
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Haven't we all learned yet that when "They" claim there is an energy/oil crisis, that it's all lies?
Look up "The Energy non-crisis" by Lindsey Williams.
It's all about the money and control Folks, Wake Up!
The discussion is wasted on how we are going to give up our rights and way of living, it should be what are we going to do to take back what rightfully belongs to US? NOT the Rockefellers and International Bankers.

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» rights??? Posted by: abrunvand
mobility and access
Posted by: abrunvand on Jul 28, 2008 1:07 PM   
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I recently heard a very good lecture about the conundrum of car dependence. The problem is that mobility (i.e. driving around in cars) actually reduces access (i.e. getting out of the car at your destination).

In other words, extreme car-dependent mobility has caused dispersed patterns of development that make it more and more difficult to access services and desireable destinations.

In order to really change American car culture we are going to have to retrofit a lot of infrastructure to make it accessable by people (as opposed to people in cars, that is). That is going to mean changing zoning laws that pretty much require cities to build sprawl by requiring commercial and residential developemnts to devote huge areas to parking.

The problem is, how to begin the process of change? Whenever city councils propose reducing parking requirements, loudmouth neighbors always show up in force to scream that cars might park in front of their houses (on public streets, of course, but that's beside the point).

So besides just making a personal commitment to drive less, citizens are going to have to speak out a lot more clearly to tell local government that we want walkable neighborhoods, tranist-oriented development and public transit, and nevermind the possibility of traffic snarls. After all, if driving is inconvenient compared to walking, bussing or biking that's a good thing.

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» RE: mobility and access Posted by: sibadd
It's not just adding to ones travel time
Posted by: Kathy in Philly on Aug 17, 2008 9:17 AM   
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Being without a car for the last year and a half and relying on only public transportation didn't just make going to the store a longer trip. It affected every part of my life - I live in NW Philadelphia - which has good transport to get me to work in Center City. But not very good transport for other reasons.

Even trying to get to a movie is nearly impossible as most theatres aren't close to the transport - and don't run frequently enough to to make show times. They're really designed for the majority of their customers who get there by car. The trains run till 10 on Sat - so - no going out to socialise or to community events etc very easily.

Bike exchanges may be a workable idea for some younger people in areas with different weather - but don't really make a major contribution. Especially if one has to be somewhere and not add to the olfactory ambiance. And I'm pretty sure they'll end up in the underground economy fairly quickly here.

And I think from hearing some of the guys talking here that waiting for a bus on a dark street alone at night may be a very different experience for me. Even if my train ran till 1 at night - I wouldn't like the couple of block walk to my home after an event or night out. I've barely avoided an assualt last year walking home at an earlier time - it gets dark before I even get home from work in the middle of winter. It was a very different experience just getting out of my car and walking into my home.

So - yes - I'll be going back to a car when & if I can afford it someday. Though I hope I'll be able to afford a plug-in.

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Get a GEM
Posted by: j,leo on Aug 17, 2008 10:22 AM   
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I live in San Francisco, too. Muni is a nightmare. I've been without a "gas"car since 2001, but I bought a GEM a few years back - its easy to park, great for neighborhood driving and it's electric. It's the ideal san francisco "errand running" car. There's a dealer in the mission, and another one in berkeley...

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Oh Get Off It
Posted by: Geminate on Aug 18, 2008 8:38 PM   
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Go get yourself a motorcycle or scooter with a trunk and stop being such a baby.

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» RE: Oh Get Off It Posted by: Geminate
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