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Body Fat Holds The Key to Energy Independence
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Think of this for a moment, if only out of respect for the dead. There you were, about 100 million years ago, maybe a contented little diatom or a great big Brontosaurus stumbling around the edge of a tar pit -- a lord of the earth. And what are you now? A sludge of long-chain carbon molecules that will be burned so that some mammalian biped can make a CVS run for Mountain Dew and chips.
It's an old human habit -- living off the road kill of the planet. There's evidence, for example, that early humans were engaged in scavenging before they figured out how to hunt for themselves. They'd scan the sky for circling vultures, dash off to the kill site--hoping that the leopard that did the actual hunting had sauntered off for a nap-- and gobble up what remained of the prey. It was risky, but it beat doing your own antelope tracking.
We continue our career as scavengers today, attracted not by vultures but by signs saying "Safeway" or "Giant." Inside these sites, we find bits of dead animals wrapped neatly in plastic. The killing has already been done for us -- usually by underpaid immigrant workers rather than leopards.
I say to my fellow humans: It's time to stop feeding off the dead and grow up! I don't know about food, but I have a plan for achieving fuel self-suffiency in less time than it takes to say "Arctic National Wildlife Refuge." The idea came to me from reports of the growing crime of French fry oil theft: Certain desperate individuals are stealing restaurants' discarded cooking oil, which can then be used to fuel cars. So the idea is: why not could skip the French fry phase and harvest high-energy hydrocarbons right from ourselves?
I'm talking about liposuction, of course, and it's a mystery to me why it hasn't occurred to any of those geniuses who are constantly opining about fuel prices on MSNBC. The average liposuction removes about half a gallon of liquid fat, which may not seem like much. But think of the vast reserves our nation is literally sitting on! Thirty percent of Americans are obese, or about 90 million individuals or 45 million gallons of easily available fat -- not from dead diatoms but from our very own bellies and butts.
This is the humane alternative to biofuels derived directly from erstwhile foodstuffs like corn. Biofuels, as you might have noticed, are exacerbating the global food crisis by turning edible plants into gasoline. But we could put humans back in the loop by first turning the corn into Doritos and hence into liposuctionable body fat. There would be a reason to live again, even a patriotic rationale for packing on the pounds.
True, liposuction is not risk-free, as the numerous doctors' websites on the subject inform us. And those of us who insist on driving gas guzzlers may soon start depleting their personal fat reserves, much as heroin addicts run out of useable veins. But the gaunt, punctured, look could become a fashion statement. Already, the combination of a tiny waist and a huge carbon footprint -- generated by one's Hummer and private jet -- is considered a sign of great wealth.
And think what it would do for our nation's self-esteem. We may not lead the world in scientific innovation, educational achievement, or low infant mortality, but we are the global champions of obesity. Go to http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity; and you'll find America well ahead of the pack when it comes to personal body fat, while those renowned oil-producers -- Saudi Arabia, Venezuela and Iran-- aren't even among the top 29. All we need is a healthy dose of fat pride and for CVS to start marketing home liposuction kits. That run for Mountain Dew and chips could soon be an energy-neutral proposition.
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Posted by: richholland on Jun 24, 2008 1:57 AM
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The price of the fuel is 1/3 of the present diesel.
So the solution of the energycrisis will be ;give all the clients of Kentuckyfriet chicken, Burger King and McDonald stamps.
If they have enough stamps they will get a free liposucty.
Use the human fat and the hamburger fat we donot need the arab oil anymore.
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» Barbara, if the oil has been discarded, it's not stealing
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Posted by: ankhet on Jun 24, 2008 2:29 AM
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Apparently we're not yet so PC we can't continue to mock fat people with impunity.
How will thin people contribute to the fuel supply they also surely use? Their carbon feet are as large as everyone else's.
The Yesmen were kidding in order to make an important point about the morally bankrupt oil industry. What's your excuse, Ms.E.?
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jun 24, 2008 3:02 AM
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As for right-wing talk radio hosts and other big mouths, we could channel all that hot air to heat steam and produce electricity. Just think: The hot air from one Bill O'Reilly show could provide heat and electricity for the state of North Dakota for an entire winter...or air-conditioning, depending how far along the global warming thing is by the time it is implemented!
Keep those good ideas flowing.
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Posted by: Moira61 on Jun 24, 2008 3:38 AM
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» Justifications be damned: IT IS NOT OKAY TO BE OBESE!
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Posted by: Cap'n Solar on Jun 24, 2008 3:45 AM
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The 45 million gallons of easily available human body fat - even if we ignore the energy required to turn it into usable fuel - is not going to make any difference at all in our energy consumption.
We need to start radically reducing our energy use and immediately convert to renewable energy. We have already passed the point where this is negotiable. Please read the latest on climate science here ...And yes it would be nice if the Nation of Excess would slim down - their over consumption is just one more of many negative pressures on the global energy/climate/ecology system. They will have to do it by eating less meat, eating less calories in total, and (even more radically) leaving their SUVs in the garage to begin walking or biking when they can.
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Posted by: the man with a dog on Jun 24, 2008 4:00 AM
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Cows fart and provide methane so why not humans. Sorry just letting my mind wander off into outer space!!
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Posted by: stockpix on Jun 24, 2008 4:28 AM
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Barbara can whip the tar out of most 8th graders I know.
My only quibble is that she hasn't taken it all the way to the swiftian conclusion of burning the rich (and their hummers). Oh, or perhaps she actually has but on an international scale. Perhaps she has done it in a such a subtle, delicate and absurd way that it nearly seems reasonable. Yet just offensive and unreasonable enough to make Swift proud indeed.
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Posted by: leland61 on Jun 24, 2008 4:38 AM
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She is also right. Americans rank way down the list on happy people and healthy people but way up on the top of the list of fat people.
Hilarious.
And you fat liberationists - loose weight get a life, and get on with it. I know I'm trying to.
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Posted by: stockpix on Jun 24, 2008 4:39 AM
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Posted by: Longdream on Jun 24, 2008 5:07 AM
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And for all the people here who: 1) took offense at the mention of fat folk because you've never read any satire and don't know that it's supposed to be vicious; 2) didn't get that the article is making fun, or 3) worse yet, took Barbara's premise literally and criticized the "science"--I just don't know what to say to you.
Maybe this: CLIMB OUT OF YOUR BOXES YOU BORING PEOPLE! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR RUTS!
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» Self mocking is not an excuse
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Posted by: Knowmad on Jun 24, 2008 6:10 AM
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Like my idea of the human dairy (don't ask).
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Posted by: Biflspud on Jun 24, 2008 6:11 AM
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Eating starving babies is funny. Mocking tubbies is not.
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Posted by: Gravitas on Jun 24, 2008 7:25 AM
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This is not the first time her fatphobia showed. In one of her books she mention her disgust for plus sized WalMart shoppers. Too bad she can't apply all that social sciene to herself. Her disgust for fat is obviously a projection of her OWN body issues and perhaps fear of aging nongracefully. But turning her own angst into an instrument of bigotry is unacceptable. Especially for a sociologist. Granted, in many ways a pop sociologist. Right now she is an embarrassment to the discipline.
(Many people say things over the net they would never say to a person's face. Not me. Here is my myspace:
www.myspace.com/vortexresister113. I hope she reads this and I want her to attach a face to the disgust I feel towards her right now. And take a look at Joy Nash's fat rant video while you are there!)
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Posted by: Bobsays on Jun 24, 2008 8:06 AM
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You feel better, look better, are healthier, sexier, and need fewer calories and resources to get around. Remember the American Airlines Eagle that crashed because they let somebody on who was too fat? That's what fat does: it ain't even funny.
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Posted by: kegbot1 on Jun 24, 2008 9:30 AM
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If you've read "Nickled and Dimed" you'll also note that Babs takes shots at the overweight in that book as well. It's nothing new for her and I keep wondering why she has this blind spot of bigotry.
We should be above this. It's how the powers that be turn us on each other.
Also note now that the Japanese are forcing businesses to measure all their employees' waistlines and fining companies for having too many overweight people. How would we react to that sort of punitive discrimination? Would we cheer that? We got the smokers NOW GET THOSE FATTIES!
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Posted by: sausage on Jun 24, 2008 10:08 AM
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Barbara Ehrenreich pens an satirical essay-- which I read yesterday, thought about forwarding it to friends--about liposuction saving the economy and then the pc crowd here gets all in an uproar about other posters echoing her sentiments.
Hey, just ban me for life why doncha?
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Posted by: emjayrow on Jun 24, 2008 10:12 AM
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First step in the direction of SOYLENT GREEN...
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Posted by: fomented on Jun 24, 2008 11:31 AM
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Posted by: EinMD on Jun 24, 2008 11:42 AM
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and as far as my extra fat if I'm not about to have a dangerous and invasive medical procedure for my own vanity I'm sure as hell not going to do it so some asshole driving a Hummer and getting 10mpg can drive down to collect his mail in the morning.
Here's a better idea. We have over 2 million inmates currently incarcerated in prisons and jails all over the united states. How about we put them all on a treadmill for an hour a day. Those who aren't violent offenders could even earn 'Freedom points' towards their sentences. For every hour on the treadmill you get two hours off your sentence.
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» TRULY!
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Posted by: Hans Katan on Jun 24, 2008 2:33 PM
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I am glad that satire can make people think ,only it would be nice the make a change also .
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I am from the Netherlands ,Europe ,it is not only a problem in the USA
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Posted by: TERRIROBSON on Jun 24, 2008 4:09 PM
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Posted by: fryguy on Jun 24, 2008 4:12 PM
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Looks like there's no idea new under the sun...even THIS one!
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Posted by: navy-vet on Jun 24, 2008 5:17 PM
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But this waggish essay was good writing, remindful of Swift's "A Modest Proposal". Like Swift in that outrageous "proposal", Ehrenreich's wit takes shrewd digs at numerous targets. In her case they are liposuction (representing all the vanity procedures to "beautify" the body), zombie-like gauntness, the price of gasoline, folks who are addicted to gas-guzzlers, and, yes, obesity.
Why not obesity? I don't mind being kidded. If anyone thinks I'm Jung and easily Freudened with "self-hatred" nonsense, I threaten to SIT ON YOUR LAP. You'll feel it. Maybe you politically correct (i.e., narrow-minded) thin folks should put on some weight. You might gain your first glimmer of a sense of humor along with the weight. As for me, for years I was skinny and got chronic anemia. Then I nursed my son for 18 months and drank gallons of whole milk. Since then I've been fat and much healthier. All you P.C. sourpusses better realize that we fat folk are laughing at YOU and your stiff-necked self-righteousness.
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Posted by: maude21 on Jun 24, 2008 8:09 PM
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Unfortunately, the premise of the article that we harvest body fat for fuel, demeans people who are obese. FYI, I'm not one of them. But I'm hard-pressed to believe that fat is a character defect. We used to think that way about alcoholics, remember?
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Posted by: claude on Jun 25, 2008 5:50 AM
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Yeah, so here’s a good example of satire’s definition. I get it. I find satire funny, hence the popularity of Simpsons being stymied by those who just didn’t get it. However, this article is not funny because as a satirical piece it is more offensive than humorous. I also get that there is fat hatred in America, but don’t try to pretend that the outrage is just a bunch of obese people taking political correctness to the extreme. I don’t think fat people “need improvement” nor do I wish to attack them. While incredibly rude, one commenter on this post goes as far as saying fat people should be ridiculed to bring about change. Then yes, they see the satire in the article and agree. I don’t like it, but it’s more honest than telling readers to lighten up because they either didn’t get the point of the article or are dealing with weight issues. If fat people are going around stealing the gas out of your car, then mabey the satire works a little better. The assumption that fat people can’t embrace themselves for who they are (and the assumption that they are not sexy), creates such a divide for loving everyone on this planet as they are… and is only further proof why the culture of the U.S. (and elsewhere) deals with such detrimental social ills.
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Posted by: kmacjp on Jun 25, 2008 7:34 AM
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Sincerely,
Kristin MacDougall
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Posted by: plantsareneat on Jun 25, 2008 7:41 AM
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Get up on your bike!
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Posted by: grammasanity on Jul 5, 2008 12:24 PM
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Alternatively, we could eat the rich, as people have been suggesting for years.
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Posted by: grammasanity on Jul 5, 2008 12:25 PM
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Alternatively, we could eat the rich, as people have been suggesting for years.
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Posted by: richholland on Jun 24, 2008 1:57 AM
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The price of the fuel is 1/3 of the present diesel.
So the solution of the energycrisis will be ;give all the clients of Kentuckyfriet chicken, Burger King and McDonald stamps.
If they have enough stamps they will get a free liposucty.
Use the human fat and the hamburger fat we donot need the arab oil anymore.
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» Barbara, if the oil has been discarded, it's not stealing
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Posted by: ankhet on Jun 24, 2008 2:29 AM
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Apparently we're not yet so PC we can't continue to mock fat people with impunity.
How will thin people contribute to the fuel supply they also surely use? Their carbon feet are as large as everyone else's.
The Yesmen were kidding in order to make an important point about the morally bankrupt oil industry. What's your excuse, Ms.E.?
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jun 24, 2008 3:02 AM
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As for right-wing talk radio hosts and other big mouths, we could channel all that hot air to heat steam and produce electricity. Just think: The hot air from one Bill O'Reilly show could provide heat and electricity for the state of North Dakota for an entire winter...or air-conditioning, depending how far along the global warming thing is by the time it is implemented!
Keep those good ideas flowing.
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Posted by: Cap'n Solar on Jun 24, 2008 3:45 AM
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The 45 million gallons of easily available human body fat - even if we ignore the energy required to turn it into usable fuel - is not going to make any difference at all in our energy consumption.
We need to start radically reducing our energy use and immediately convert to renewable energy. We have already passed the point where this is negotiable. Please read the latest on climate science here ...And yes it would be nice if the Nation of Excess would slim down - their over consumption is just one more of many negative pressures on the global energy/climate/ecology system. They will have to do it by eating less meat, eating less calories in total, and (even more radically) leaving their SUVs in the garage to begin walking or biking when they can.
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Posted by: the man with a dog on Jun 24, 2008 4:00 AM
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Cows fart and provide methane so why not humans. Sorry just letting my mind wander off into outer space!!
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Posted by: stockpix on Jun 24, 2008 4:28 AM
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Barbara can whip the tar out of most 8th graders I know.
My only quibble is that she hasn't taken it all the way to the swiftian conclusion of burning the rich (and their hummers). Oh, or perhaps she actually has but on an international scale. Perhaps she has done it in a such a subtle, delicate and absurd way that it nearly seems reasonable. Yet just offensive and unreasonable enough to make Swift proud indeed.
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Posted by: leland61 on Jun 24, 2008 4:38 AM
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She is also right. Americans rank way down the list on happy people and healthy people but way up on the top of the list of fat people.
Hilarious.
And you fat liberationists - loose weight get a life, and get on with it. I know I'm trying to.
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And for all the people here who: 1) took offense at the mention of fat folk because you've never read any satire and don't know that it's supposed to be vicious; 2) didn't get that the article is making fun, or 3) worse yet, took Barbara's premise literally and criticized the "science"--I just don't know what to say to you.
Maybe this: CLIMB OUT OF YOUR BOXES YOU BORING PEOPLE! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR RUTS!
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Posted by: Knowmad on Jun 24, 2008 6:10 AM
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Like my idea of the human dairy (don't ask).
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Posted by: Biflspud on Jun 24, 2008 6:11 AM
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Eating starving babies is funny. Mocking tubbies is not.
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Posted by: Gravitas on Jun 24, 2008 7:25 AM
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This is not the first time her fatphobia showed. In one of her books she mention her disgust for plus sized WalMart shoppers. Too bad she can't apply all that social sciene to herself. Her disgust for fat is obviously a projection of her OWN body issues and perhaps fear of aging nongracefully. But turning her own angst into an instrument of bigotry is unacceptable. Especially for a sociologist. Granted, in many ways a pop sociologist. Right now she is an embarrassment to the discipline.
(Many people say things over the net they would never say to a person's face. Not me. Here is my myspace:
www.myspace.com/vortexresister113. I hope she reads this and I want her to attach a face to the disgust I feel towards her right now. And take a look at Joy Nash's fat rant video while you are there!)
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Posted by: Bobsays on Jun 24, 2008 8:06 AM
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You feel better, look better, are healthier, sexier, and need fewer calories and resources to get around. Remember the American Airlines Eagle that crashed because they let somebody on who was too fat? That's what fat does: it ain't even funny.
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Posted by: kegbot1 on Jun 24, 2008 9:30 AM
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If you've read "Nickled and Dimed" you'll also note that Babs takes shots at the overweight in that book as well. It's nothing new for her and I keep wondering why she has this blind spot of bigotry.
We should be above this. It's how the powers that be turn us on each other.
Also note now that the Japanese are forcing businesses to measure all their employees' waistlines and fining companies for having too many overweight people. How would we react to that sort of punitive discrimination? Would we cheer that? We got the smokers NOW GET THOSE FATTIES!
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Posted by: sausage on Jun 24, 2008 10:08 AM
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Barbara Ehrenreich pens an satirical essay-- which I read yesterday, thought about forwarding it to friends--about liposuction saving the economy and then the pc crowd here gets all in an uproar about other posters echoing her sentiments.
Hey, just ban me for life why doncha?
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First step in the direction of SOYLENT GREEN...
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Posted by: EinMD on Jun 24, 2008 11:42 AM
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and as far as my extra fat if I'm not about to have a dangerous and invasive medical procedure for my own vanity I'm sure as hell not going to do it so some asshole driving a Hummer and getting 10mpg can drive down to collect his mail in the morning.
Here's a better idea. We have over 2 million inmates currently incarcerated in prisons and jails all over the united states. How about we put them all on a treadmill for an hour a day. Those who aren't violent offenders could even earn 'Freedom points' towards their sentences. For every hour on the treadmill you get two hours off your sentence.
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Posted by: Hans Katan on Jun 24, 2008 2:33 PM
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I am glad that satire can make people think ,only it would be nice the make a change also .
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I am from the Netherlands ,Europe ,it is not only a problem in the USA
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Posted by: fryguy on Jun 24, 2008 4:12 PM
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Looks like there's no idea new under the sun...even THIS one!
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Posted by: navy-vet on Jun 24, 2008 5:17 PM
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But this waggish essay was good writing, remindful of Swift's "A Modest Proposal". Like Swift in that outrageous "proposal", Ehrenreich's wit takes shrewd digs at numerous targets. In her case they are liposuction (representing all the vanity procedures to "beautify" the body), zombie-like gauntness, the price of gasoline, folks who are addicted to gas-guzzlers, and, yes, obesity.
Why not obesity? I don't mind being kidded. If anyone thinks I'm Jung and easily Freudened with "self-hatred" nonsense, I threaten to SIT ON YOUR LAP. You'll feel it. Maybe you politically correct (i.e., narrow-minded) thin folks should put on some weight. You might gain your first glimmer of a sense of humor along with the weight. As for me, for years I was skinny and got chronic anemia. Then I nursed my son for 18 months and drank gallons of whole milk. Since then I've been fat and much healthier. All you P.C. sourpusses better realize that we fat folk are laughing at YOU and your stiff-necked self-righteousness.
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Posted by: maude21 on Jun 24, 2008 8:09 PM
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Unfortunately, the premise of the article that we harvest body fat for fuel, demeans people who are obese. FYI, I'm not one of them. But I'm hard-pressed to believe that fat is a character defect. We used to think that way about alcoholics, remember?
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Posted by: claude on Jun 25, 2008 5:50 AM
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Yeah, so here’s a good example of satire’s definition. I get it. I find satire funny, hence the popularity of Simpsons being stymied by those who just didn’t get it. However, this article is not funny because as a satirical piece it is more offensive than humorous. I also get that there is fat hatred in America, but don’t try to pretend that the outrage is just a bunch of obese people taking political correctness to the extreme. I don’t think fat people “need improvement” nor do I wish to attack them. While incredibly rude, one commenter on this post goes as far as saying fat people should be ridiculed to bring about change. Then yes, they see the satire in the article and agree. I don’t like it, but it’s more honest than telling readers to lighten up because they either didn’t get the point of the article or are dealing with weight issues. If fat people are going around stealing the gas out of your car, then mabey the satire works a little better. The assumption that fat people can’t embrace themselves for who they are (and the assumption that they are not sexy), creates such a divide for loving everyone on this planet as they are… and is only further proof why the culture of the U.S. (and elsewhere) deals with such detrimental social ills.
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Sincerely,
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Posted by: plantsareneat on Jun 25, 2008 7:41 AM
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Get up on your bike!
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Alternatively, we could eat the rich, as people have been suggesting for years.
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Alternatively, we could eat the rich, as people have been suggesting for years.
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