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Too Much Stuff! America's New Love Affair With Self-Storage
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The "self storage" business started small three or four decades ago, as a few "mini-warehouses" around military bases in the Southwest, according to industry legend. Now it's a $22 billion-per-year industry, and maybe a whole way of life. Like VCRs and cell phones, self-storage is a product Americans didn't need until they discovered it, and now they can't live without.
The numbers are astounding. According to the Self Storage Association, an industry advocacy group, square footage of rentable storage has increased 740 percent in the past two decades; a billion square feet of storage space was created between 1998 and 2005; and there are now 6.8 square feet of storage for every man, woman and child in America. Chris Sonne, a storage expert at Cushman & Wakefield Inc., estimates there are 45,000 storage facilities today compared to zero 50 years ago.
"That's a pace of two or more self-storage facilities opening every day for 50 years," he says. "That beats McDonald's."
It's been a great ride for savvy investors, who watched the business produce impressive rents from inexpensive buildings. Industry giant Public Storage Inc. had total returns of 41 percent, 33 percent, 25 percent and 47 percent for the years 2003-2006, according to Morningstar. Though growth has slowed recently, due to high supply and tight credit, it hasn't stopped, with new development continuing in little-served areas like urban centers. What the hell is going on? Why do Americans crave all this space when they apparently lived fine without it 30 years ago?
There aren't many answers in the press. Storage tends to make the news only when something criminal or titillating happens -- like when a murderer stores body parts in his unit, or Paris Hilton forgets to pay her rent, and her purported party photos and Amsterdam drug notes are auctioned off to the highest bidder.
I walk into the office of a Public Storage facility and talk to "Jack," the manager on duty. (He tells me he could get fired if I used his real name.) With his beard neatly trimmed and his shirt tucked in, he seems grounded and efficient. I ask why demand for his service is so big.
"I guess there are just a lot of pack rats out there," he says without skipping a beat.
That's the same initial reaction I got from the majority of the 20 people I talked to for this story, from Wall Street analysts to everyday customers. But draw those conversations out a bit, and those pack rats "out there" start looking like everyone you know. The problem isn't just with the crass and slavish mob; more thoughtful types use self-storage too.
Building on Inertia
Part of the storage boom comes from use by business: Self Storage Association President Michael Scanlon says that perhaps 30 percent of customers are businesses storing records, equipment, inventory and the like. Still, the lion's share of the expansion has come from plain old folks storing their possessions. And every one of them has a story when they show up at Jack's desk.
"When people come in here, they are stressed out," he says. "Maybe their grandma died and left some furniture. Maybe they're moving. Maybe they got a new job."
These are "life events" in the parlance of industry analysts, and they're a gateway into the self-storage universe. Whether the event is good or bad, its high emotions come loaded with the job of dealing with a small mountain of stuff. That's where Jack can step in. A big part of a storage manager's job is unlicensed crisis counseling -- talking the client down a bit, figuring out their plans for the next few hours or months, and getting their possessions off their hands so they can move on with their lives.
"When they leave the office," Jack says, "I want to make sure at least this one thing is resolved for them." Like all of the self-storage managers I met, he is a down-to-earth, no-nonsense person who seems truly interested in helping.
Getting into self-storage is so easy it can be a big relief to someone in the throes of a "life event." There is no need to bother friends or family. There are few, if any, credit checks, reference checks, deposits or long-term leases. The service looks cheap, with typical monthly rents from 50 cents to 2 dollars per square foot. It's getting out that can be the challenge.
Consider a customer like Raeven (yes, her real name), now a preschool worker in Portland, Ore. Nine months ago she was in Ann Arbor, Mich., having a "life event." Her marriage was going to pieces. She retreated to her parents' home in Salem, Ore., and got her stuff into storage there. After a few months, she moved to Portland to start a new life. Now she occasionally goes down to Salem to retrieve things. On a recent visit she extracted some kitchen gear, some books on Jewish studies and 50 pairs of shoes. (There are more.) Her idea is to extricate the rest of the stuff and be out of the unit in a few months. It's a typical plan -- and if Raeven is a typical client, she won't succeed.
"You start off by asking, 'how long do you plan on renting it for?'" says Scanlon. "Almost everybody says 'a month or two.'"
They end up staying a lot longer. Average tenancies nationwide are somewhere between one and two years, say Scanlon and Sonne, and some renters simply never leave.
"I have one renter who's been here since we opened -- in 1990," says Dawn Spencer, a manager at Clackamas River Mini Storage outside of Portland. "He pays automatically, by credit card, never comes in. Lives in another state now."
"It's an industry that builds on inertia," says Paul Adornato, an analyst for BMO Capital Markets. "People would much rather have $150 withdrawn automatically out of their checking account every month than have to wake up on a Saturday morning, rent a truck, move out the stuff, do something with the stuff … see what I mean?"
Incident in the Garage
One factor that does not explain the storage boom is lack of space in American houses. Over the last three decades, the average new American home has grown by about 900 square feet, according to Census data, while the number of people per household has declined slightly.
"Most of the people we rent to have a garage, an attic and a basement -- can you believe that?" says Scanlon. Seventy-five percent of them own their own homes, he says. They simply have more and more stuff to wrangle. Rick, a real estate agent in Macomb County, Mich., is one such "premium residential customer," as Scanlon calls them. He's familiar with self-storage from his job, where he encourages customers to use storage to remove nonessential items and "stage" their homes for sale. He even plays a "decluttering" game with customers a few months later, after the sale, when they're ready to reclaim that excess. Can they even remember what's in there? Almost never, he says.
Rick had his own storage-inducing life event when he moved his father-in-law, who has "a touch of Alzheimer's," into assisted living.
"His house was a nightmare when we moved him out," relates Rick. "His basement was full of crap. His garage was full of crap. His extra bedrooms were full of crap. It's like, 'What do you need this stuff for?'" There wasn't room for it all in his assisted-living apartment, but Rick says his father-in-law couldn't distinguish between irreplaceable items, like old pictures, and replaceable junk like a prefab shelving unit. He wanted to keep it all.
Still, Rick and his wife couldn't exactly throw that crap away. On occasion, the father-in-law asked for specific things -- an old picture, or a book -- and they could hardly deny him such wishes. Rick didn't want to clutter up his own house. A storage unit was the logical solution. Getting a second unit seemed logical, too, when Rick's college-age son went abroad to study and left some things behind -- furniture for his future apartment.
Finally, there was an incident in Rick's garage, which was getting a little crowded with his own stuff. A pile of it fell over and nearly damaged his prized MG roadster. Rick broke the mental seal and put some of his own stuff -- some sports gear and old business papers -- in his father-in-law's unit.
"I've encroached on it 30 percent," he says. Then he works out some math about his storage expenses.
"There's a bit of me that says -- gosh, I'm paying, combined, about $100 a month. … I've been doing this for three years …"
He trails off before he gets to the surprisingly large total.
I ask if the stuff in his two units is worth anything near $3,600.
"Nope."
Will he keep a storage unit when his father-in-law passes on and his son gets an apartment?
"Probably," he says, after some fumbling. "Just a smaller one."
The Future Beach House
I can't help but get the impression that, like Rick, a good many Americans are in danger of literally getting pushed out of their houses by stuff. It seems odd in a time when eBay, craigslist, freecycle.org and charity pickup services make getting rid of possessions easier than ever.
Adornato has been thinking about those services too.
"All of that helps us to rotate our personal inventories," hey says, "but ultimately, we like to accumulate."
The deluge of stuff springs from a combination of instinct and economics, says Cindy Glovinsky, a psychotherapist and author of "Making Peace With the Things in Your Life" (St. Martin's). Humans are programmed to hoard, she says, and "things have gotten cheaper, and more widely available, and more quickly available than ever in history."
It hasn't helped, she thinks, that so many households now have two wage earners. Homemakers used to have time to sort through things and edit them. "But when you work all day," she says, "it seems like a huge burden." Especially when those two wage earners might have completely different ideas about their possessions.
For Eden, a hi-tech sales rep in Boston, her life event came two years ago when she moved from Idaho to Boston so her husband could go to grad school. It meant downsizing from a big suburban house to a standard apartment. There was no way all her husband's things, including a full cocktail bar setup -- he is a mixing aficionado -- could come with them.
"My impulse was to get rid of all that stuff and simplify," she says, "but he just has this gene that makes him accumulate stuff."
The compromise was leaving the bar, some furniture, tools and other miscellany in storage in Idaho, a place they weren't likely to live again, ever. It's still there today, rent prepaid, waiting to be rediscovered and reanimated. On some days, thinking about it bothers Eden a lot.
"People in third world countries couldn't even fathom this," she says. "Their houses aren't even as big as our storage unit."
Nonetheless, the storage unit has its usefulness. It prevents a major relationship crisis. And it makes a little down payment on a dream she and her husband have of building a beach house in British Columbia. When they get around to doing that, Eden says, all that stuff could be really useful.
People Substitutes
What's in storage, says Scanlon, doesn't often have great cash value. "It's mostly stuff people have an emotional attachment to," he says. "They think, 'I might need this someday, or the kids might want this.'… That's really what is motivating this."
It doesn't matter if such ideas are patently unrealistic, says Glovinsky: "Parents ought to ask, how much is the kid really going to want?" Rather, she says, they're powerful impulses, tied to instincts about survival and relationships.
"It's normal for people to be attached to objects," she says. "We tend to make do with them as people substitutes, like children with teddy bears, or Tom Hanks with his volleyball (in "Cast Away"). We all do some of that; it's really just a matter of degree."
The first step in addressing a problem with stuff, she emphasizes, is not hiring a dump truck, but acknowledging the powerful emotional interactions everyone has with things. Once you do that, it's easier to be selective -- to pick some objects that represent memories or people or plans for the future, and get rid of the rest.
The Ugly Un-American
It seems so easy to blame the ugly, consuming American for the storage boom, to see spending $50 or $150 a month to store junk as a spiritual failing unique to the United States. But Americans aren't storing junk, they're storing dreams -- of days when there will be a better house to move in to, of days with time to read all those magazines and make all those recipes; of kids who honor family ties by keeping grandma's dresser; of doing things they once did again, if only they could get interested again. And it could be those kind of dreams aren't American, they're simply human.
That's what industry pros like Adornato are thinking. The business is already firmly established in Australia and Europe, and Adornato has been talking with storage executives about the experience there.
"The executives said over and over again that once people are aware of the product, their habits were indistinguishable from Americans," Adornato reports. "That is, they like to accumulate stuff; they had more stuff than they wanted to keep in their residence; and they had the same inertia about taking it out."
Sonne is bullish on that mother of all markets, China. "One of the developers in China told me the idea of self-storage works everywhere, because people aren't that different." While it might take time to introduce the concept of storage to Chinese consumers, Sonne says, "once it gets in the psyche of people … it sort of becomes part of their life."
That means on my next trip to Beijing I might be able to glimpse two Forbidden Cities. The ancient one, full of treasures of jade and calligraphy and hand-wrought bronze, is a museum now, open to the public. But the brand new storage palace, full of magazines and junky bed frames -- or the Chinese equivalent -- will be walled off and secret. I wonder what dreams will lie in state there.
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Posted by: Smiggsy on Jun 4, 2008 1:42 AM
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My grandparents owned the same car, white goods & furniture for over 30 years. If you needed a set of golf clubs, boat or an electric saw you borrowed from your friends & neighbors.
Today people change their household possessions every few years. They have 3 cars instead of one. They own EVERYTHING (cause everybody does) they don't talk (let alone socialise) with their own household neighbors.
Problem is also that most people do not cleanse themselves of their old possessions. They hang onto them. Collecting in the sense of a hobby is ok. Hoarding your old shoes, table & tv is not. Gotta put them somewhere.
Most people are too selfish to let go of their old possessions these days. Its a perfect reflection of the selfish society we now live in.
Greed & fear rule everywhere. I disdain these facets of modern western society.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Jun 4, 2008 5:47 AM
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But for starters, let's donate our extras back to China. We could sure as hell use that idea to pay back the mounting debt we owe those poor souls who get sweatshopped to death thanks to the pols and "free" trade.
P.S.: My wife and I have been frugal so we never collected much. Plus, we love our house and don't let money tell us where to move unless my area is completely depleted of careers in our fields in which case we'd have no choice but to move up north.
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Posted by: Forrest on Jun 4, 2008 6:08 AM
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self-storage units- where stuff goes to die!
great article!
It reveals the chronic problem that exists in American Culture- hyper-materialism. No, it's not a human universal. The Pakot People of eastern Africa consider "civilisation to a matter of social responsibility", not the wheel, nor massive buildings as western historians would have us believe. Some peoples in different cultures actually judge strangers by their behaviour and not by their clothes nor by the vehicle they're driving.
Infinite needs.
Infinite greed.
materialism and capitalism have altered the very face of this planet earth. from clear-cut forests and open pit mines to artificial mountains of garbage. Alien archaeologists will be able to chronicle the rise......and fall of "great" human "civilisations" by the garbage they leave behind.
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Posted by: billgee on Jun 4, 2008 6:11 AM
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Overstuffed, overstaffed, overdocumented
Americans have been at it for years.
The Time Has Come Today!
Do Something Now.
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Posted by: Sunfell on Jun 4, 2008 6:53 AM
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Every box out the door and out of my life is a breath of fresh air. I am learning how to get rid of things. And I am only replacing things that need replacing.
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Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Jun 4, 2008 6:57 AM
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This is why I don't help people move anymore, they so often have an enormous amount of stuff that they don't need. I am a minimalist (other than not getting rid of my old PCs, lol). Helping others move is always a loss for me since I don't have nearly as much stuff to move as others.
Knick knacks are one of the biggest examples of worthless stuff. Action figures and models are knick knacks for nerds.
Become a minimalist and get rid of almost everything.
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Posted by: wolfgangmo75 on Jun 4, 2008 7:11 AM
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We own one car and one truck. Both are paid off and the truck only gets used for household construction projects the car can't and otherwise stays parked. We don't own a TV [which was a great move]. We recycle lots, reuse everything and apply a strict 6 month rule.
The 6 month rule works like this. With the exception of professional reference books [which we might only need once a year, but when we do our patients need that info NOW], if we don't touch an item every 6 months then it gets given away or sold. Period.
Adhering to that rule has made our life much simpler, happier, and more productive. We have more time for activities and more time for family and friends.
Just let go people. Just let go. Things have no value you don't assign to them.
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People, sell your stuff instead of storing it. Sell it for cheap if you have to, but sell it!
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Posted by: littlemanintheboat on Jun 4, 2008 8:28 AM
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I had to stop because I was getting too involved in these stranger's lives..baby pictures, misc memorabilia that I would feel they needed back.and sometimes I would try to track them down to give them back..but you know what? Very few I found wanted them back. I have found human remains (true)..human bones, ashes of loved ones (what a way to go.. abandoned in a storage unit!).. I would read letters and find out family secrets... they would invade my dreams... I had to quit that!! Weird country we live in... that experience changed me..I know live with only what I need, which is very little.
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 4, 2008 9:04 AM
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Now, do I need to be holding on to two motherboards and two gpu's for an obsolete computer I will likely never build? Probably not. They'll go on ebay, whenever I find time to shoot pictures and write up the details.
Now, do I need the clothes I can't wear atm? Maybe...maybe not. I was a size 30" when I got my suits in Thailand. Now I'm 33", but we've downsized our family transport from two cars to one 4-banger Ford Fusion (paid for it outright last week) and a wal-mart bicycle (guess who's pedaling?). I'm hoping that the bicycle and a change in diet will get me back into suits that would cost me $600 to replace.
"Stuff" isn't inherently bad, unless you're of the religious persuasion that it is, similar to the apple of sin. I don't buy into either philosophies, but neither have I ever owned storage space aside from whilst in the Navy and went from living in a small apartment to living on a boat for six-nine months out of the year.
I needed a place to hold my civilian clothes, computer, bike, etc. Naught wrong with that, in my opinion.
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Jun 4, 2008 9:23 AM
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We hold on to alot of crap because we've been told to.We've been taught old things become valuable over time,but junk lasts forever. We need to make products of quality and not quantity. Unfortunatly for us,the latter hold sway. Cheap poorly made and in great qunatities,that's the manufacturing motto. Product demand is a created notion for a manufactured need. We used to produce in balance with our needs. Now we create a need and make useless junk to fill the need. All the while making products cheaper and of low quality,just so the Stock Market can make money
Stocks too are an overvalued product. So we're probably going to see new storage lockers just for stocks bonds and Anut Emma. Who lost her home because she bought so much junk she has no room in her house to live in it. We have made the country a garbage dump and alot of it ends up in storage lockers. Wow, how cool are we,we have alots of closet space,you just have to drive five miles to use the damn thing and pay hundreds of dollars a year to use it. By buying all this junk,then storing it, we are creating a country that will be too expensive to live in and we'll keep doing it so we can look cool in our new and latest forcefed item of interest.
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Posted by: GollyGee on Jun 4, 2008 10:02 AM
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The vast majority of them really don't provide very good security, and when your stuff is stolen — notice I didn't say "if" — you'll have a tough up-hill battle to prove the storage company was negligent.
Often employees, or even the owners, of the units are in on the game,and I'm betting (no figures to back it up, just a hunch) in many cases pillaging the units brings in more per year than renting them.
A friend with inside info once advised me that if I ever rented a storage unit to put the cheapest, smallest padlock I could find on the door. An expensive, indestructible lock only announced valuables were inside, and thieves always hit those first. Hinges and hasps are usually such poor quality the strength of the lock doesn't matter.
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Posted by: PaulK on Jun 4, 2008 10:22 AM
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We dream of having our own carpentry shop in the basement, to be free of paying for carpentry.
Some of us aspired to be artists and we have all these artist tools. Some have lots of old computer gear, some have old college calculus books. Some carry around vast amounts of old papers from apartment to apartment. We either hope or fear that we may need these tools.
We dream of having our own boats, enough cars, trucks and other devices to feel self-sufficient. Some of us have fishing rods, some have kayaks or skis.
The people who remember poverty hang onto every old rag, just in case.
It's true that most of us can't release our stuff. That's because most of us can't release our old dreams and old nightmares.
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Posted by: Sushi on Jun 4, 2008 10:34 AM
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Some of the crap in storage is cheap plastic children's toys (their kids are teenagers now). It's nothing they want to keep in the house but they cannot seem to let it go.
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Posted by: just john on Jun 4, 2008 10:43 AM
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That didn't include my LP and CD collections, built since 1972. They're most of what's in my storage space, a couple miles down the road from where I live. I go there to swap out a few dozen CDs at a time, so I can mp3-ize them.
In my budgeting, I lump it in with my rent. And if/when I get on my feet enough to rent an actual apartment (I miss having a kitchen, SO MUCH!), my comparisons will include having enough space to move my stored stuff there with me.
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...or what it thoreau?
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Posted by: realmuzik on Jun 4, 2008 2:20 PM
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What's the point I'm trying to make here? There is "bad," "frivolous" stuff that too many people are obsessing and focusing on ... and "good," "QUALITY," "soul-feeding" stuff that should be thriving and that we as a populace should be focusing on instead. We need to redefine "stuff." Yes, we are a stuff-obsessed culture that's prohibiting us from striking meaningful conversations with our "household neighbors." But we can strike conversations if we do not sit around and obsess over the frivolity that is prohibiting us to participate in a democratic society, making it better for the future generations that will be forced to pay for the frivolous "stuff" that we are presently obsessing over.
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I also think there is a deeper sickness at work here - a compulsive need to buy and involve ourselves with things in order to block out the emotional pain caused by such an empty existence. Many people are living like mindless automatons, programmed to buy much and experience little.
And because material things cannot provide any lasting or meaningful happiness, people must constantly acquire in order to maintain the high, hence the typical garage or storage box filled with shit. It's not the stuff people want, it's the high they get from buying.
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im always in a strange position on this site. i probably live more frugally than 95 percent of the people that complain on this site. just travel to urban liberal cities then travel to rural country conservative towns and see who are the wasteful ones.
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the bank run blog did a post recently regarding the dramatic up-swing in the value of storage companies stocks, relating it to the economic crisis in America, otherwise becoming known as 'foreclosureland'
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storage stocks steady as suburbanites stash stuff
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1. Look at your stuff stacked in boxes.
2. Spit on same.
3. Pronounce Magic Words: "A Shadow of Its Former Worthlessness."
4. Poof.
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Posted by: PGR88 on Jun 4, 2008 10:08 PM
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Don't worry about my soul, my greed, or my accumulation of clutter. Worry about improving yourself first.
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Posted by: Lily H. on Jun 4, 2008 11:33 PM
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placed our household items in a self-storage unit,
and we paid vastly more than the items were worth.
My then-husband lost a box of my high-school
yearbooks, never getting a chance to show them to
our children (son was only six, daughter yet to be
born). As an single empty-nester, I had to downscale
from a cramped 3-bedroom house to an even more
cramped 1-bedroom cottage (with patio).
After I moved in, I had to pitch box upon box of
household items I had no room for, giving away some
to my now grown children, leaving the rest in the
alley, or giving to friends. Problem is, I find
things in the alley, and haul them into my patio,
sometimes it gets a bit out of hand and I wind up
having to re-haul them back where they came from.
Presently, my patio has been pared down to a
respectable level, but my home has two bookcases and
a desk - all alley finds, which because I work at a
library, find books to fill them. I'm also a magazine
junkie, and have stacks of Martha Stewarts and Oprahs
on a table in my tiny living room (I use the actual
living room as a bedroom and the bedroom as my living
room - my home has an odd entryway).
At times, I wish I had MORE house space and LESS
patio, but overall I am very fortunate to live where
I do, and have no other complaints about my area.
As a member of a family (grandmother and sister)
who were hoarders, I find it a continuous battle to
fight back the hoarders' monster at every turn.
I try to organize and/or control the level of clutter
as best I can. I'm sure before the summer is out, I
will be un-cluttering once again.
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Posted by: L.A.Lynn on Jun 5, 2008 11:18 AM
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I put my stuff (30 years worth of household utensils, furniture, books, and memorabilia) in storage. I was upgrading my house before it fell in on me. I planned 6 months, it took a year to get it all out. I went through it and thought, "would my son want that?" If the answer was "no" it went to Children's Thrift or some such place. Books were hardest to let go, but libraries take them, so they have an afterlife.Memorabilia, mostly meaningless got tossed in the dumpster.It was tough at first, but I feel renewed and tons lighter.I highly recommend it!
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Posted by: aouie01 on Jun 4, 2008 12:21 AM
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Sincerely,
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Posted by: Smiggsy on Jun 4, 2008 1:42 AM
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My grandparents owned the same car, white goods & furniture for over 30 years. If you needed a set of golf clubs, boat or an electric saw you borrowed from your friends & neighbors.
Today people change their household possessions every few years. They have 3 cars instead of one. They own EVERYTHING (cause everybody does) they don't talk (let alone socialise) with their own household neighbors.
Problem is also that most people do not cleanse themselves of their old possessions. They hang onto them. Collecting in the sense of a hobby is ok. Hoarding your old shoes, table & tv is not. Gotta put them somewhere.
Most people are too selfish to let go of their old possessions these days. Its a perfect reflection of the selfish society we now live in.
Greed & fear rule everywhere. I disdain these facets of modern western society.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Jun 4, 2008 5:47 AM
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But for starters, let's donate our extras back to China. We could sure as hell use that idea to pay back the mounting debt we owe those poor souls who get sweatshopped to death thanks to the pols and "free" trade.
P.S.: My wife and I have been frugal so we never collected much. Plus, we love our house and don't let money tell us where to move unless my area is completely depleted of careers in our fields in which case we'd have no choice but to move up north.
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Posted by: Forrest on Jun 4, 2008 6:08 AM
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self-storage units- where stuff goes to die!
great article!
It reveals the chronic problem that exists in American Culture- hyper-materialism. No, it's not a human universal. The Pakot People of eastern Africa consider "civilisation to a matter of social responsibility", not the wheel, nor massive buildings as western historians would have us believe. Some peoples in different cultures actually judge strangers by their behaviour and not by their clothes nor by the vehicle they're driving.
Infinite needs.
Infinite greed.
materialism and capitalism have altered the very face of this planet earth. from clear-cut forests and open pit mines to artificial mountains of garbage. Alien archaeologists will be able to chronicle the rise......and fall of "great" human "civilisations" by the garbage they leave behind.
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Posted by: billgee on Jun 4, 2008 6:11 AM
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Overstuffed, overstaffed, overdocumented
Americans have been at it for years.
The Time Has Come Today!
Do Something Now.
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Posted by: Sunfell on Jun 4, 2008 6:53 AM
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Every box out the door and out of my life is a breath of fresh air. I am learning how to get rid of things. And I am only replacing things that need replacing.
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Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Jun 4, 2008 6:57 AM
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This is why I don't help people move anymore, they so often have an enormous amount of stuff that they don't need. I am a minimalist (other than not getting rid of my old PCs, lol). Helping others move is always a loss for me since I don't have nearly as much stuff to move as others.
Knick knacks are one of the biggest examples of worthless stuff. Action figures and models are knick knacks for nerds.
Become a minimalist and get rid of almost everything.
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Posted by: wolfgangmo75 on Jun 4, 2008 7:11 AM
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We own one car and one truck. Both are paid off and the truck only gets used for household construction projects the car can't and otherwise stays parked. We don't own a TV [which was a great move]. We recycle lots, reuse everything and apply a strict 6 month rule.
The 6 month rule works like this. With the exception of professional reference books [which we might only need once a year, but when we do our patients need that info NOW], if we don't touch an item every 6 months then it gets given away or sold. Period.
Adhering to that rule has made our life much simpler, happier, and more productive. We have more time for activities and more time for family and friends.
Just let go people. Just let go. Things have no value you don't assign to them.
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Posted by: callejero on Jun 4, 2008 8:20 AM
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People, sell your stuff instead of storing it. Sell it for cheap if you have to, but sell it!
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Posted by: littlemanintheboat on Jun 4, 2008 8:28 AM
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I had to stop because I was getting too involved in these stranger's lives..baby pictures, misc memorabilia that I would feel they needed back.and sometimes I would try to track them down to give them back..but you know what? Very few I found wanted them back. I have found human remains (true)..human bones, ashes of loved ones (what a way to go.. abandoned in a storage unit!).. I would read letters and find out family secrets... they would invade my dreams... I had to quit that!! Weird country we live in... that experience changed me..I know live with only what I need, which is very little.
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 4, 2008 9:04 AM
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Now, do I need to be holding on to two motherboards and two gpu's for an obsolete computer I will likely never build? Probably not. They'll go on ebay, whenever I find time to shoot pictures and write up the details.
Now, do I need the clothes I can't wear atm? Maybe...maybe not. I was a size 30" when I got my suits in Thailand. Now I'm 33", but we've downsized our family transport from two cars to one 4-banger Ford Fusion (paid for it outright last week) and a wal-mart bicycle (guess who's pedaling?). I'm hoping that the bicycle and a change in diet will get me back into suits that would cost me $600 to replace.
"Stuff" isn't inherently bad, unless you're of the religious persuasion that it is, similar to the apple of sin. I don't buy into either philosophies, but neither have I ever owned storage space aside from whilst in the Navy and went from living in a small apartment to living on a boat for six-nine months out of the year.
I needed a place to hold my civilian clothes, computer, bike, etc. Naught wrong with that, in my opinion.
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Jun 4, 2008 9:23 AM
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We hold on to alot of crap because we've been told to.We've been taught old things become valuable over time,but junk lasts forever. We need to make products of quality and not quantity. Unfortunatly for us,the latter hold sway. Cheap poorly made and in great qunatities,that's the manufacturing motto. Product demand is a created notion for a manufactured need. We used to produce in balance with our needs. Now we create a need and make useless junk to fill the need. All the while making products cheaper and of low quality,just so the Stock Market can make money
Stocks too are an overvalued product. So we're probably going to see new storage lockers just for stocks bonds and Anut Emma. Who lost her home because she bought so much junk she has no room in her house to live in it. We have made the country a garbage dump and alot of it ends up in storage lockers. Wow, how cool are we,we have alots of closet space,you just have to drive five miles to use the damn thing and pay hundreds of dollars a year to use it. By buying all this junk,then storing it, we are creating a country that will be too expensive to live in and we'll keep doing it so we can look cool in our new and latest forcefed item of interest.
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Posted by: GollyGee on Jun 4, 2008 10:02 AM
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The vast majority of them really don't provide very good security, and when your stuff is stolen — notice I didn't say "if" — you'll have a tough up-hill battle to prove the storage company was negligent.
Often employees, or even the owners, of the units are in on the game,and I'm betting (no figures to back it up, just a hunch) in many cases pillaging the units brings in more per year than renting them.
A friend with inside info once advised me that if I ever rented a storage unit to put the cheapest, smallest padlock I could find on the door. An expensive, indestructible lock only announced valuables were inside, and thieves always hit those first. Hinges and hasps are usually such poor quality the strength of the lock doesn't matter.
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Posted by: PaulK on Jun 4, 2008 10:22 AM
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We dream of having our own carpentry shop in the basement, to be free of paying for carpentry.
Some of us aspired to be artists and we have all these artist tools. Some have lots of old computer gear, some have old college calculus books. Some carry around vast amounts of old papers from apartment to apartment. We either hope or fear that we may need these tools.
We dream of having our own boats, enough cars, trucks and other devices to feel self-sufficient. Some of us have fishing rods, some have kayaks or skis.
The people who remember poverty hang onto every old rag, just in case.
It's true that most of us can't release our stuff. That's because most of us can't release our old dreams and old nightmares.
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Posted by: Sushi on Jun 4, 2008 10:34 AM
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Some of the crap in storage is cheap plastic children's toys (their kids are teenagers now). It's nothing they want to keep in the house but they cannot seem to let it go.
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Posted by: just john on Jun 4, 2008 10:43 AM
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That didn't include my LP and CD collections, built since 1972. They're most of what's in my storage space, a couple miles down the road from where I live. I go there to swap out a few dozen CDs at a time, so I can mp3-ize them.
In my budgeting, I lump it in with my rent. And if/when I get on my feet enough to rent an actual apartment (I miss having a kitchen, SO MUCH!), my comparisons will include having enough space to move my stored stuff there with me.
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...or what it thoreau?
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What's the point I'm trying to make here? There is "bad," "frivolous" stuff that too many people are obsessing and focusing on ... and "good," "QUALITY," "soul-feeding" stuff that should be thriving and that we as a populace should be focusing on instead. We need to redefine "stuff." Yes, we are a stuff-obsessed culture that's prohibiting us from striking meaningful conversations with our "household neighbors." But we can strike conversations if we do not sit around and obsess over the frivolity that is prohibiting us to participate in a democratic society, making it better for the future generations that will be forced to pay for the frivolous "stuff" that we are presently obsessing over.
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Posted by: spanky on Jun 4, 2008 3:33 PM
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I also think there is a deeper sickness at work here - a compulsive need to buy and involve ourselves with things in order to block out the emotional pain caused by such an empty existence. Many people are living like mindless automatons, programmed to buy much and experience little.
And because material things cannot provide any lasting or meaningful happiness, people must constantly acquire in order to maintain the high, hence the typical garage or storage box filled with shit. It's not the stuff people want, it's the high they get from buying.
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Posted by: Joe on Jun 4, 2008 4:37 PM
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im always in a strange position on this site. i probably live more frugally than 95 percent of the people that complain on this site. just travel to urban liberal cities then travel to rural country conservative towns and see who are the wasteful ones.
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Posted by: particle61 on Jun 4, 2008 4:44 PM
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the bank run blog did a post recently regarding the dramatic up-swing in the value of storage companies stocks, relating it to the economic crisis in America, otherwise becoming known as 'foreclosureland'
see post...
storage stocks steady as suburbanites stash stuff
the bank run blog focuses on the current financial crisis and its economic and social consequences, drawing stories from disprate media to shed a much need light on the plight of Americans who are facing the ravages of the mess left by the carniverous classes who destroyed the world economy.
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Posted by: zayantemike on Jun 4, 2008 9:20 PM
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1. Look at your stuff stacked in boxes.
2. Spit on same.
3. Pronounce Magic Words: "A Shadow of Its Former Worthlessness."
4. Poof.
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Posted by: PGR88 on Jun 4, 2008 10:08 PM
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Don't worry about my soul, my greed, or my accumulation of clutter. Worry about improving yourself first.
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jdfu!
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Posted by: Lily H. on Jun 4, 2008 11:33 PM
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placed our household items in a self-storage unit,
and we paid vastly more than the items were worth.
My then-husband lost a box of my high-school
yearbooks, never getting a chance to show them to
our children (son was only six, daughter yet to be
born). As an single empty-nester, I had to downscale
from a cramped 3-bedroom house to an even more
cramped 1-bedroom cottage (with patio).
After I moved in, I had to pitch box upon box of
household items I had no room for, giving away some
to my now grown children, leaving the rest in the
alley, or giving to friends. Problem is, I find
things in the alley, and haul them into my patio,
sometimes it gets a bit out of hand and I wind up
having to re-haul them back where they came from.
Presently, my patio has been pared down to a
respectable level, but my home has two bookcases and
a desk - all alley finds, which because I work at a
library, find books to fill them. I'm also a magazine
junkie, and have stacks of Martha Stewarts and Oprahs
on a table in my tiny living room (I use the actual
living room as a bedroom and the bedroom as my living
room - my home has an odd entryway).
At times, I wish I had MORE house space and LESS
patio, but overall I am very fortunate to live where
I do, and have no other complaints about my area.
As a member of a family (grandmother and sister)
who were hoarders, I find it a continuous battle to
fight back the hoarders' monster at every turn.
I try to organize and/or control the level of clutter
as best I can. I'm sure before the summer is out, I
will be un-cluttering once again.
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Posted by: L.A.Lynn on Jun 5, 2008 11:18 AM
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I put my stuff (30 years worth of household utensils, furniture, books, and memorabilia) in storage. I was upgrading my house before it fell in on me. I planned 6 months, it took a year to get it all out. I went through it and thought, "would my son want that?" If the answer was "no" it went to Children's Thrift or some such place. Books were hardest to let go, but libraries take them, so they have an afterlife.Memorabilia, mostly meaningless got tossed in the dumpster.It was tough at first, but I feel renewed and tons lighter.I highly recommend it!
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