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One Nation Under Elvis: An Environmentalism for Us All

By Rebecca Solnit, Orion Magazine. Posted March 20, 2008.


Answering that requires digging into American race and class wars, and into the broad crises of environmentalism.
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The biggest wilderness I've ever been in -- a roadless area roughly the size of Portugal with about fifty contiguous watersheds and the whole panoply of charismatic macrofauna doing their thing undisturbed -- is another story. This one is about what happened afterward, when I and the Canadian environmentalists I'd been traveling with arrived at the nearest settlement, a logging town in the far northeast corner of British Columbia consisting of a raw row of buildings on either side of the highway to Alaska.

We were celebrating two weeks of rafting down the central river in that ungulate- and predator-rich paradise at the outpost's big honky-tonkish nightclub, where the DJ kept playing country songs, to which all the locals would loop around gracefully, clasped together. But my compadres kept making faces of disgust at the music and asking the DJ to put on something else. He'd oblige with reggae, mostly, and we'd wave our limbs vaguely, dancing solo and free-form as white people have danced to rock-and-roll since the mid-1960s. Everyone else would sit down to wait this other music out. It was not a great movement-building exercise. How far were you going to get with a community when you couldn't stand their music or even be diplomatic about it? I've been through dozens of versions of that scene over the years and got reminded of it last year by my letter from Dick.

He really was named Dick. From a return address in the exorbitantly expensive near-San Francisco countryside, he sent me a typewritten note about a section in a recent book of mine. He declared, "The country music parts of the US you love so much are also home of the most racist, reactionary, religiously authoritarian (i.e., Dominionist) people in the country. You don't have to go far: just look @ voting patterns among rednecks descendants of the white yeomanry, if you wish to be polite) in the Central Valley. They love Bush and are very backward people by the standards of the Enlightenment. The Q might be, what is the correlation between country music and political backwardness, if any?"

My first question for Dick might be: which country music? You could cite Johnny Cash's long-term commitment to Native American rights and stance against the Vietnam War (he called himself "a dove with claws") or the song about interracial love that Merle Haggard wrote (but his record company refused to release, though the minor country star Tony Booth had a hit with "Irma Jackson" in 1970) or "I Believe the South Is Gonna Rise Again," boldly sung by Tanya Tucker in 1974:

Our neighbors in the big house called us redneck

Cause we lived in a poor share-croppers shack

The Jacksons down the road were poor like we were

But our skin was white and theirs was black
But I believe the south is gonna rise again

But not the way we thought it would back then

I mean everybody hand in hand ...
Or you could just mention medium-sized country star Charley Pride (thirty-six Billboard No. 1 country hits), who also doesn't fit Dick's redneck designation because he is African American.

In terms of political orientation, you could cite the Texas-based Dixie Chicks, who refused to back down from criticizing Bush on the brink of the current war. They were, as their recent hit had it, "Not Ready to Make Nice." Though corporate country stars like Toby Keith stampeded to support the so-called war on terror, alt. country musicians like Steve Earle charged just as hard in the opposite direction. Country music is a complex beast, sometimes in resistance to or mockery of the mainstream and the rural South, sometimes a mirror of or hymn to it, the product of many voices over many eras, arisen from a culture that was never pure anything, including white. (And its current listening territory includes much of the English-speaking world.)

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Another set of questions might be why Dick despises the people and places that spawned the music, and what larger rifts his attitude reveals. Answering them requires digging into the deep history of American music and American race and class wars, and into the broad crises of environmentalism in recent years.

Those wars about race and class are peculiarly evident in the stories we tell about Elvis. I was raised on the tale that Elvis stole his music from black people. The story told one way makes Elvis Presley a thief rather than someone who bridged great divides by hybridizing musical traditions and brought the lush energetic force of African-American music into white ears and hearts and loins. It ignores his many white influences, from bluesy Hank Williams to schmaltzy Perry Como, his genius in synthesizing multiple American traditions into something unprecedented, and the raw power of his own voice and vocal style. It ignores, too, the lack of an apartheid regime in American roots music. White country blues and white gospel were part of the rich river of sound that came out of the South long before Presley. Despite segregation, black and white musicians learned from each other and influenced each other. (Another view of Elvis, from Billboard magazine in 1958, stated, "In one aspect of America's cultural life, integration has already taken place.")

The particular song Elvis was supposed to have stolen from R & B singer Big Mama Thornton, "Hound Dog," wasn't a vernacular expression of African-American culture, and it wasn't her creation anyway; it was written by two New York Jews, Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller. Elvis's first single featured a cover of the song "That's All Right Mama" by Delta blues singer Arthur Crudup, but the B-side was a cover of bluegrass star Bill Monroe's "Blue Moon of Kentucky," as perfect a mix of southern musical traditions as you can find. Elvis was repeatedly charged with being a racist -- most famously in rapper Chuck D's 1990 song -- on the basis of a comment he never actually made. James Brown and Muhammad Ali thought otherwise, and some Native Americans claim the part-Cherokee Elvis as their own.

The story that Elvis stole his music from African Americans as told by, for example, my now-deceased, uber-leftie, America-hating, and otherwise wonderful aunt, turned rock-and-roll into a mostly white child miraculously born to a purely black family. It was a way of saying that cool and correct white people could love rock-and-roll -- white music with roots in the South -- but dodge the sense that they had any affinities with white southerners; they could imagine them as wholly other and hate them with ease, with a fervor and disdain that spilled over pretty easily to all blue-collar rural people, to the white American peasantry, basically. That hate had and has wide currency. Ask Dick.

The story that racism belongs to poor people in the South is a little too easy, though. Just as not everybody up here, geographically and economically, is on the right side of the line, so not everyone down there is on the wrong side. But the story allows middle-class people to hate poor people in general while claiming to be on the side of truth, justice, and everything else good.

I grew up surrounded by liberals and leftists who liked to play the idiot in fake southern accents, make jokes about white trash and trailer trash, and, like the Canadian enviros, made gagging noises whenever they heard Dolly Parton or anything like her. If Okies from Muskogee thought they were being mocked, they were right, in part. This mockery was particularly common during the 1970s and 1980s, but it has yet to evaporate altogether -- after all, Dick, who judging by his typewriter was around then, wrote me only last summer. My aged mother continues to make liberal use of the term "redneck" to describe the people I grew up among (though they were just suburban conservatives), and last summer I met a twentysomething from New York at a Nevada campout who told me he too was raised to hate country music. He was happily learning to love it, but late, like me.

My own conversion to country music came all of a sudden in 1990, around another campfire, also in Nevada. The great Western Shoshone anti-nuclear and land-rights activist Bill Rosse, a decorated World War II vet and former farm manager, unpacked his guitar and sang Hank Williams and traditional songs for hours. I was enchanted as much by the irreverent rancor of some of the songs as by the pure blue yearning of others. I'd had no idea such coolness, wit, and poetry was lurking in this stuff I was taught to scorn before I'd met it.

HATING WHITE SOUTHERNERS, particularly poor white southerners, and often by extension any poor rustic whites, seems to be a legacy of the civil rights movement. So far as I can tell (I came later), well-meaning people outside the South were horrified by the culture of Jim Crow, with its segregation, discrimination, and violence -- and rightly so. Over the past couple of years, I've spent time in New Orleans and on the Gulf Coast, and I myself was horrified by the racial violence that transpired during the chaos of Katrina and some of the everyday apartheid and racist vileness that persists in the region. But I also recently ran into raging white racists on the periphery of Detroit, Michigan, right across the river from Canada. And the last ostentatious racists I met were the middle-aged heir of a fabulously wealthy family whose hallowed name is smeared all over the Northeast and his yachting buddy, right here in left-coast ultra-urban San Francisco. Racism is pervasive. The pretense that it belongs solely to poor people who talk slow lets the rest of us off the hook.

So on the one hand we have white people who hate black people. On the other hand we have white people who hate other white people on the grounds that they hate black people. But that latter hatred accuses many wrongfully, and it serves as a convenient coverup for the racism that is all around us. The reason why it matters is because middle-class people despising poor people becomes your basic class war, and the ongoing insults seem to have been at least part of what has weakened the environmental movement in particular and progressive politics in general.

Right-wing politicians may serve the super-rich with tax cuts and deregulation and privatization galore, but they also dress up expertly in a heartland all-Americanism that has, at least until Bush's plummeting popularity, allowed a lot of rural Americans to see them as allies rather than opponents. The right has also done a superb job of portraying the left as elite and hostile to working-class interests, and the class war going on inside and outside leftist and environmentalist circles did this propaganda battle a great service. The result of all this has been a marginalized environmental movement -- more specifically, an environmental movement that has alienated the people who often live closest to "the environment."

Of course dreadlocks and ragged clothes weren't exactly diplomatic outreach tools either. I spent some of the 1990s with and around activists in the public forests of the West, and a lot of the supposedly most radical had a remarkable knack for going into rural communities and insulting practically everyone with whom they came into contact. It became clear to me that in their eyes the worst crimes of the locals did not involve chainsaws and voting choices but culture and what gets called lifestyle. It was a culture war that got pretty far from who was actually doing what to the Earth and how anyone might stop it.

Grubby, furry, childless pseudo-nomads who could screw up all they wanted and live hand to mouth until something went wrong and the long arm of middle-class parents reached out to rescue them scorned the tough economic choices of people with kids, mortgages, and no bail-out plan or white-collar options. Some of them did great things for trees, but their approach wasn't always, to say the least, coalition-building. It also wasn't ubiquitous. There were some broad-minded people in the movement, and some who even hailed from these rural and poor cultures, and Earth First! always had a self-proclaimed redneck contingent -- but the scorn was widespread enough to be a major problem. And it seemed to be part of the reason why a lot of rural people despise environmentalists.

I remember talking to a young rancher in an anti-environmental bar in Eureka, Nevada, who humbly presumed that environmentalists, including myself and the group I was with, loathed him. His hat was large and his heart was good. Whatever you think of arid-lands ranching, he seemed to be doing it pretty well. He boasted of grass up to his cows' bellies, talked about moving the cows around to prevent erosion, and deplored the gold mines that are doing far worse things to the region. We were clearly on the wrong track -- the environmental movement as a whole, if not the Nevada activists I worked with, who did a decent job of bridging the divide, but why was there a divide? The bar in Eureka, as of last July, still sold t-shirts emblazoned with the acronym WRANGLERS (Western Ranchers Against No-Good Leftist Environmentalist Radical Shitheads), a slogan about as diplomatic as my letter from Dick.

THE SOCIALISM AND PROGRESSIVISM that thrived through the 1930s saw farmers, loggers, fisheries workers, and miners as its central constituency along with longshoremen and factory workers. Where did it go? You can see missed opportunities again and again. Some of the potential for a broad, blue-collar left was trampled by the virulent anti-communism and anti-labor-union mood of the postwar era. More of it was undermined by the culture clash that came out of the civil rights movement. By the 1980s, when I was old enough to start paying attention, the divide was pretty wide. And environmentalists were typically found on one side.

The environmental justice movement set out in part to rectify that. The founding notion was to address the way that environmental hazards -- refineries, incinerators, toxic dumps -- are often sited in poor communities and communities of color. But class and thereby poor white people very quickly vanished from the formula. Toxic dumping in a rural North Carolina African-American community is said to have launched the environmental justice movement in 1982, but the prototypical environmental injustice had been exposed a few years earlier, in the mostly white community at Love Canal in western New York. It wasn't an anomaly either. The 1972 Buffalo Creek flood occurred when a coal-slurry impoundment dam on a mountaintop in West Virginia burst and killed 125, left 4,000 homeless, destroyed many small communities, and devastated the survivors -- almost all of whom were white. And modern-day coal mining continues to ravage poor, mostly white regions of the South in what environmental journalist Antrim Caskey calls "the government-sanctioned bombing of Appalachia." Caskey describes how "coal companies turn communities against each other by telling their employees that the environmentalists want to take away their jobs."

The right wooed rural white people (and then screwed them), the left neglected them at best, and the electoral maps everyone made so much noise about in the 2004 election weren't about red states and blue states, they were about urban islands of blue surrounded by oceans of red. The anti-environmental and often corporate-backed Sagebrush Rebellion of the 1970s and the Wise Use Movement of the 1980s did their part to deepen the divide by convincing rural whites that their livelihoods were threatened by environmentalists and persuading them to embrace pro-corporate, pro-extractive-industry positions. And small-scale farmers losing their land were receptive to right-wing rhetoric that claimed to feel their pain and pinned the blame on liberals or immigrants or environmentalists, rather than corporate consolidation, globalization, or other macroeconomic forces. During the Clinton era when rural right-wingers feared the United Nations and "world government" (remember the black helicopters?) and the militia movement was strong, I wished that the anti-corporate-globalization movement could have done a better job of reaching out to these descendants of the old Progressives, Wobblies, and agrarian insurgents to tell them that there were indeed schemes for scary world domination, but they involved the World Trade Organization, not the UN. An environmental movement, or a broader progressive movement, that could speak to these communities would be truly powerful. And truly just.

Pieces of it are here. The Quivira Coalition and many other groups across the West have found common ground with ranchers; land trust organizations and others have forged alliances with farmers; the whole premise that the people who actually produce the resources that the rest of us use are necessarily the enemy is fading away. I think of the fantastic work being done by good-old-boy-like activists I've met in the South -- a land preservationist getting lots of conservation easements from the local Charleston-area gentry and a big red-faced drawling guy doing extraordinarily great environmental justice work with the African-American community in New Orleans's Lower Ninth Ward. And of people like Oakland's Van Jones, who are thinking about how jobs and the environment can come together as a goal. Even presidential candidate John Edwards, himself the child of North Carolina textile millworkers, talks about class and poverty in a way no one in the mainstream has in many years, or decades. The argument that a healthy environment can bring more revenue into rural communities through recreation and other benefits has more credence nowadays, and hardly radical constituencies like the lobstermen of Maine have recognized the relationship between their livelihoods and the health of the oceans. But much remains to be done.

The environmental movement's founding father, John Muir, was himself a Wisconsin farm boy, and he did not so much flee the farm for the wilderness as invent wilderness as a counter-image to the farm on which his brutal father nearly worked him to death. Muir worked later as a shepherd and lumber-miller in the Sierra Nevada and much later married into an orchard-owning family, but he didn't have much to say about work, and what little he did say wasn't positive. The wilderness he sought was solitary, pure, and set apart from human society, corporeal sustenance, and human toil -- which is why he had to forget about the Indians who were still subsisting on the land there. This apartness and forgetting so beautifully codified in Ansel Adams's wilderness photographs has shaped the vision of much of the environmental movement since them.

The Sierra Club, which Muir cofounded with a group of University of California professors in 1892, saw nature as not where one lived or worked but where one vacationed. And traditional American environmentalism still largely imagines nature as vacationland and as wilderness, ignoring the working landscapes and agricultural lands, whose beauties and meanings are widely celebrated in European art. More recently, as environmentalists have found themselves dealing with more systemic problems -- pesticides, acid rain -- they've begun to shed the sense that the rural and urban, human and wild, are separate in ecological terms, but that awareness has done little to actually connect rural and urban people and issues.

Today, rural citizens see themselves in an unappreciated, fast-shrinking middle zone between wilderness and development (even though agriculture is often the best bulwark against sprawl). In many ways, rural culture is dying, and that seems to push many rural people into near-paranoia. During the water-scarcity crises in the Klamath River region on the California-Oregon border, farmers spoke of "rural cleansing" and seemed to believe that environmentalists wanted to empty out the countryside. Some of them do. Rural life, other than sentimental fantasies of an idyllic past, cowboy fetishism, or the pseudo-ruralism of people who live in rustic-looking settings but commute to work in the white-collar economy, is largely invisible to most of us most of the time. It's true that agriculture and wilderness are often in competition -- the farmers of the Klamath Basin are competing with salmon for water. But if rural culture and rural life were positive values also being defended, the negotiations might go better.

Wallace Stegner wrote forty-seven years ago that "Something will have gone out of us as a people if we ever let the remaining wilderness be destroyed," and something else will go out of us if the resourcefulness, rootedness, and richness of rural culture disappears. It's why the environmentalist-rancher coalitions are so noteworthy, and the new alliances forged to resist the Bush-era oil and gas leases across the arid West. But they are only a small part of a culture and a movement that need to do a lot more.

One step would be to stop letting the right wing frame the debate. More significantly, we need to seek ways to sustain both rural life and wildlife. The small solutions -- fencing riparian habitat, allowing wildlife corridors, reorienting farms toward sustainable agriculture and local markets and away from chemical-heavy industrial production -- can be cooperative rather than competitive. The large solution is a culture that values all of its fulfilling landscapes -- the ones that sustain us bodily as well as imaginatively, the tilled lands as well as the wild. Of course one complication is that rural life itself has been increasingly industrialized in ways that produce, rather than a picturesque farm scene, a sort of food factory operated largely by exploited and transient workers and run by offsite profiteers. Reforming this will be good for both human rights and the environment -- as well as our health and our tables.

IF, AT THE START OF THIS STORY, the great divide was manifest in musical taste and distaste, that too has begun to close, as musical genres bleed into each other and no longer provide the airtight identities they once did. The young don't seem to care who owns what music, and a lot of them have distinctly downwardly mobile tastes -- garnished with irony, but not with scorn. (After all, a lot of them are downwardly mobile in this ruthless economy.) Race has gotten a lot more complicated in their lifetimes (and ours), both in abstract ideologies and in actual liaisons and general hybridizations, and so has music, above and beyond all those suburban white boys who wanted to be rappers in the 1990s.

The late-twenties writer and music aficionado Steven Leckart wrote me last year about the splendidly hybrid music and tastes of his generation. "I get the sense that the phrase 'everything but country' -- which was rather popular when I was a teenager -- is starting to go out of fashion," he said. "When Jack White of the White Stripes produced Loretta Lynn's last record and was nominated for a Grammy, that may not have been on teenagers' radars, but it's certainly reflected online. So you have a thirteen-year-old who happens to like Beck navigating with a click to the White Stripes and then to Loretta Lynn, and if he likes what he hears with Loretta even just a little, he will continue to explore those roots." The Farm Aid lineups over the last decade suggest another kind of crossover: everyone from Billy Joel and B. B. King to Dave Matthews has played alongside Willie Nelson and a regular array of country musicians. Maybe the music that once divided us could unite us as we wander this unfenced aural landscape.

Fortunately, I think Dick might be a relic. There are particular organizations as well as general tendencies that make me hopeful. Among them are the resurgent interest in where food actually comes from, the growing tendency to condemn less and build coalitions more, and a stronger capacity for thinking systemically. And then climate change is an issue that could unite us in new ways as it makes clear how interdependent everything on this planet is, and the extent to which privilege and consumption are part of the problem. The solutions will involve modesty as well as innovation.

The anti-environmentalist right has shot itself in both feet in the past few years, losing credibility and constituency, and a smart and fast-moving left could make hay out of this, to mix a few fairly rural metaphors. It would mean giving up vindication for victory -- that is, giving up on triumphing over the wickedness of one's enemies and looking at them as unrecruited allies instead. It might mean giving up on the environmental movement as a separate sector and thinking more holistically about what we want to protect and why, including people, places, traditions, and processes outside the wilderness. It might even mean getting over the notion that left and right are useful or even adequate ways to describe who we are and what we long for (or even over the notion of rural and urban, as food gardens proliferate in the latter and sprawl becomes an issue in the former). We must also talk about class again, loudly and clearly, without backing down or forgetting about race. This is the back road down which lie stronger coalitions, genuine justice, a healthier environment, and maybe even a music that everyone can dance to.

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Rebecca Solnit is the author of 'Hope in the Dark: Untold Histories, Wild Possibilities'.

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Posted by: kwalla on Mar 20, 2008 2:36 AM   
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it's not really an eithor/or kind of question in reality.

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whats the point of this article
Posted by: Joe on Mar 20, 2008 5:11 AM   
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it's just attempt to put down people and justify some sort of superiority the writer belives he/she has. it clearly not attempting to seek out any truth. how about talking with people from the rural areas. i may not agree with their solutions but i understand their logic.

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Just...odd?
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Mar 20, 2008 5:39 AM   
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The title is strange for the context of the article, not limited to the false dichotomy presented in the title.

Further, I find it telling that Dick entered in a strange bar, sneered contemptuously at all the hicks, demanded they play "stranger" music for his enjoyment--which they did--and yet he and others like him considers the rubes to be the ignorant, exclusionary fat heads in the room.

Hell, maybe they might have tried to dance to reggae, if only his ginormous ego wasn't flopping wetly all over the dance floor.

The Dick's of the world keep the Rush Limbaugh's in business, in a manner of speaking.

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Rebecca knows
Posted by: zeofredo on Mar 20, 2008 6:19 AM   
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I always enjoy hearing from this thoughtful writer. As someone who was once described by his peers as 'the redneck intellect', I feel this is a very appropriate topic to address. Of course, in reality I was more an urban flaneur who affected a drawl and dropped big words here and there for the bizarre effect it made at parties years ago, but I was addressing the same divide between pretentious lefties and seemingly uninspired rural folk. Given a choice between the two if I had to survive a winter in the woods, however, I'd surely cast my lot with the down-home contingent without further debate.

Divisiveness will only limit our aims as enlightened progressives. The inability to hang with 'others' is immaturity and intolerance rather than expressive of liberal values. This means, for example, that vegetarians who have been invited to dinner by locals may have to forgo their lofty bearing and dig in to some critter sometimes.

Without a broader consensus across society, there will be no advancement of values unless we act inclusively and without harsh judgment.

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Divisive Discussion Fatigue
Posted by: blondesprite on Mar 20, 2008 6:24 AM   
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I am tired of articles and discussions which divide us into nattering, typing, market segments,niches of Pros and Cons or fodder for those who analyze this type of BS.
The title of this article and the substance (or lack) of it, is confusing. This bait and switch, cheap shot, headline grabbing tactic seems to be a disturbing trend.
Alternet...catch a clue...stereotypes are evil.

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Outstanding Article
Posted by: Jayzer on Mar 20, 2008 6:31 AM   
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I too find the country music-urban tastes divide to be artificial and frustrating. More importantly, I also find the notion of dismissing country folk as ignorant hicks and "rednecks" an ironic form of prejudice to adopt among environmentalists and urban people in general, who, like everyone else, need to eat.

I've had the privilege, over my lifetime, of living in suburbia, rural America and in large cities. I've been living in NYC for the past 20 years, but had been raised in a New Jersey suburb and had spent my teenage and early adult years in rural communities in Maine and Oregon, so I've come to see several prisms of viewpoint around the nation. I can't say that I'm all that well acquainted with the Deep South, but rural folk in the Pacific Northwest are sometimes derided as rednecks, when in fact, they may well be somewhat provincial only due to the fact that they haven't had the opportunity to travel.

But provincialism can be just as much a condition for a person living in the Bronx or in Chevy Chase, MD as it is for anyone living in Mapleton, Oregon.

And yes---environmentalists in their zeal for pristine natural settings are often dismissive of people who live and work in the rural surroundings that they claim to admire. But here's a hint---the people are part and parcel of that landscape you wish to preserve.

I have no final answers that are all encompassing, but one thing I'd like our government to consider (and a movement to match this idea) is to encourage NEW young organic farmers with tax credits and relocation expenses---something along the lines of what WPA projects were meant to do back in the 1930s.

I'm sure that others may have similar worthy suggestions. For further reading, one can hardly go wrong with the works of Wendell Berry.

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» Nice comment...no other... Posted by: ABetterFuture
This piece's awful title is not from the writer
Posted by: RSolnit on Mar 20, 2008 7:11 AM   
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Just for the record, that awful and misleading title is not mine. The piece's title is "One Nation Under Elvis: An Environmentalism for All of Us." I was really dismayed to find that Alternet felt free to put a misleading and obnoxious title on a writer's work without permission and have protested to them.

Thanks, readers.

Rebecca Solnit

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» one thing, though Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» Praise and empathy Posted by: zeofredo
» Not Surprising Posted by: Illiteratilumen
Hunters and environmentalists can be allies only if
Posted by: maxpayne on Mar 20, 2008 7:19 AM   
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the Democrats take the environment seriously and correctly point out that it was RAYGUN who invented "gun control" and that it is the neocons, not the liberals and progressives, who are for higher taxation and license fees against law abiding hunters. You have to keep fighting for solar, wind, geothermal, petroleum free biofuels such as hemp, etc ...

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I like this article
Posted by: IAlady on Mar 20, 2008 8:34 AM   
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Some of the posts to this article seem to come from the snooty liberals that the author was writing about who start sputtering and spouting as soon as they smell any sort of dichotomy to dismantle (I realize the author didn't choose the title either) This article is right on in many ways. I work as an organizer in rural Iowa helping communities fight hog factories for the most part-corporate Ag interests use propaganda to try to divide farmers from "environmentalists" and "activists" There are a great many people-Republican, Democrat or Independent-who care what happens to the environment and their communities in this state at least. I know that our organization would be nothing without them-it is a grave mistake to make assumptions about who is going to be on your side or not.

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» RE: I like this article Posted by: Jayzer
Neither. The author is a bigot.
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Mar 20, 2008 9:36 AM   
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People are people, regardless of where they live. We are all human beings. Get it?

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To answer the question in the title,
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Mar 20, 2008 10:04 AM   
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All of the above and more.

jdfu!

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Careful For What You Preach
Posted by: Godzilla1916 on Mar 20, 2008 1:46 PM   
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The author is quick to identify judgemental languaging in others; however, does not this compassion-less thinking also apply to her?

Here she attacks passionate people who are taking a stand:

"Grubby, furry, childless pseudo-nomads who could screw up all they wanted and live hand to mouth until something went wrong and the long arm of middle-class parents reached out to rescue them scorned the tough economic choices of people with kids, mortgages, and no bail-out plan or white-collar options."

I am tired of people who blow off radical activist as trust-fund babies.Sure some of the community may fit this bill, but please you are generalizing. Do you Rebbecca listen to your own speaches:

"There are particular organizations as well as general tendencies that make me hopeful. Among them are the resurgent interest in where food actually comes from, the growing tendency to condemn less and build coalitions more, and a stronger capacity for thinking systemically."

Key words here are "build coalitions" It goes both ways baby!

Bryan D.

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snooty liberals and divisiveness
Posted by: ongho on Mar 20, 2008 7:45 PM   
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Ms. Solnit (as well as several posters here) seem to complain that effete liberal snobs don't grow their own food or work with their hands - and worst of all, don't like country music. Shades of Spiro Agnew!

I don't care much for country music -- or rap, for that matter. Still, I've heard songs from both genre that I enjoy. I also form my opinions of country folks as well as blacks based on the individual people involved.

The contemporary meaning of the term "redneck" is much broader than the original reference to a hard-working, laconic farmer who gets sunburned on the back of his neck from being out in the sun all day. To me the term refers to a willfully ignorant and usually white person, who is prejudiced against blacks, foreigners, "librals" of any color, fervently and irrationally patriotic, stubbornly unaware of American history in general, and in complete denial of America's long history of misbehavior, and who is generally intolerant toward those with other beliefs and lifestyles.

A good number of urban Americans, including East Coasters fit the bill, including not a few Harvard and Yale grads -- George Bush Jr. being a prime example.

I wonder if Ms. Solnit realizes that it is likely that a similar percentage of farmers, local townspeople, professors and wall street bankers are lazy, shifty, dishonest good-for-nothings who will slough off and drink alcohol at every opportunity that presents itself? And that a similar percentage are honest, hard-working souls?

I also wonder what percentage of Ms. Solnit's group of environmentalists may be vegetarian? Will Ms. Solnit accord the same respect to ethical vegetarians that she demands be accorded to hard-working country folk? After all, the environment consists not only of human beings, but of many species, all of whom are able to feel pain and fear. Is saving the hypothetical future of a species any more imporant than saving the actual concrete lives of individual members of the species in the here and now?

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interesting article that brings out the true rural lifestyle to all.
Posted by: cherylsass123 on Mar 20, 2008 11:26 PM   
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I found this article very interesting, especially the part where the so called " liberal" left; those with the formal education; consider the rural people to be stupid and ignorant right wingers. and yes, the part where the right wingers have acted like the "friend of the farmer/rancher" so to speak; BUT really are out to destroy the countryside and exploit it for oil, gas, commercial farms, is very true. but the part where that dude named dick had this attitude problem toward " those ignorant central valley people" well that hit home. sounds much like what I hear around here all the time. and the part about the central valley in california, and that dude's attitude problem toward, as he saw them; "ignorant country music fans all of them republicans."

well the condo where my mom lives has to be sold to pay off her assisted living debt; and so- here I am- a transsexual woman in transition; on an SSDI disability check with no college degree and no work experience. legally here in CT, I am female; this with a psycologist's note I used at DMV. but , thanks to the bush right wing, I do not have the rights, as an american born citizen; to live free of discrimination; in many states due to "real ID act" shit! california/oregon, and a few others are the ONLY states where I wouyld still have LGBT/transgender, anti- discrimination rights!
I get $657 a month to live on- like that is really gonna pay the bills and $700-900 rent; even if I did want to stay here in conn. and live in the disgustingly-urban decayed cities of waterbury, bridgeport or downtown seymour/naugatuck. besides, I am so sick of those so called " educated liberals" whom, much like that dick dude; see rural people much the same way! being basically "unemployable"[ exception being " wal mart" PT crap jobs w/o medical insurance!] , I am trying to get my ebay store going strong; as I would love to just get away from all these pseudo-intellectual, yuppie-left/moderate "liberals" like that dick dude, and move to someplace where I could both afford to live; plus still have rights. being that even $500-600[Yreka/Red Bluff, siskiyou/shasta/tehama county, california] is fairly "expensive" for me; yet cheap by comparison to anything around any "career-land" city or suburb like CT/NY/NJ/MA quad-state area rent; I am truly considering a a move to one of those "central valley places." It would be nice to be able to both count your change in the supermarket, and "pause for 1 sec too long at that traffic light"- and NOT deal with all these rude, money and career oriented suburban-intellectual "pseudo-rural" residents! having live briefly in a "trailer" on an upstate new york dairy farm near delhi[ meredith]in 1998- I have to admit I liked that better then living in any city/suburb. [before that, I lived 13 years in ORLANDO,FLA. sprawl-ville USA! just like southbury,CT is somewhat becoming!]
BUT I have had people say to me; " but.... many of those places out in the country would be less than welcoming toward those like you." and, "all those rednecks and religious right republican ranchers whom drive 4-wheel drive pickup trucks." then these same so called " liberals" really do not, in the least with their "healthy-organic food" and "new aged unitarian, "positive spirituality"- want to have anything to do with me. why? because, unlike them, I seem more like something in between that "uneducated trailer park trash person", and "born loser whom does not know how to act and earn a living".
the one thing they all hate to hear is that those "hillbillies" as they see them; at least are NOT in so much of a hurry that they tailgate when they drive, and are NOT rude and snotty and all absorbed in the betterment of their communities; communities which EXCLUDE those whom do not fit neatly into their socio-economic profiles! southbury and woodbury, CT- both are home of the pseudo-rural suburbanites.

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Take exception to your Bigotry......
Posted by: herbal on Mar 21, 2008 1:06 AM   
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Wait now, what about us organic farming earth muffins who live and work out here in the hinterlands?? At least we can understand the agrarian allusions of Wordsworth, the Bible and Thoreau; the prose of Pearl Buck and Wendell Berry. Who taught you to how to hold a hammer?

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Conflicts Of Interests
Posted by: Jeff Hoffman on Mar 21, 2008 12:13 PM   
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The two most disturbing points made by Rebecca Solnit's essay are that nature exists only for humans and that people who have no children and consume very little are just spoiled brats. Nothing could be further from the truth. Ms. Solnit makes some good points, but her leftist ideologies get in the way of a true understanding of ecology and/or concern for the natural world. The result is a defense of indefensible human behavior that is destroying the Earth, such as logging and cattle ranching in the west.

As to the first point, everything -- air, water, and land -- is alive, all forms of life have an equal right to exist, and there is nothing in even western, human-centered science that shows that humans are better or more important than any other form of life. Saying that those of us who advocate for wilderness to be left alone by humans look at nature as just a playground shows a total lack of understanding for what we are advocating, which is for the rest of the Earth, which humans have unfortunately managed to invade and conquer. What is this human imperialism that makes people think they have a "right" to be everywhere? How about leaving some room for other species?

As to the second point, Ms. Solnit clearly does not understand that the root causes of all environmental and ecological harms are overconsumption, which includes consuming things that should not be consumed (oil, coal, etc.), and overpopulation. I totally agree that it's completely hypocritical to rage against those who work in destructive industries while consuming the products they produce, but these "[g]rubby, furry, childless pseudo-nomads" who Ms. Solnit rails against are not generally consuming the fruits of these evil industries. By their lack of consumption and breeding, they are thus far friendlier to the Earth than the rural people who make their livings by destroying it.

"Whatever you think of arid-lands ranching, he seemed to be doing it pretty well. He boasted of grass up to his cows' bellies, talked about moving the cows around to prevent erosion, and deplored the gold mines that are doing far worse things to the region."

This is just plain wrong. The cattle industry has caused more damage to the western U.S. than any other industry and does so in many ways. The cattle industry has replaced the native grasses of the West with non-native ones, destroyed riparian areas, fenced the West, killed native predators, and generally turned the western grasslands into deserts. There is NO WAY to bring large, heavy, non-native animals into a fragile, arid ecosystem and do it "pretty well," or in any way that's not totally ecologically destructive. The "common ground" that Ms. Solnit says the Quivira Coalition has found with ranchers does not exist, unless a portion of the planet is to be sacrificed in order to allow people to make money by destroying the Earth. Cattle should be completely removed from the West, period.

Ms. Solnit also makes the false assumption that people who live "closest to 'the environment'" have some special knowledge of or love for it. This is true of traditional indigenous people, but white invaders knew and cared little for the natural environment, and more often hated and wanted to tame it. Jobs like logging, mining, and ranching in the west cause extreme ecological harm and destruction, and have no moral legitimacy. The I-was-only-doing-my-job defense was rejected at Nuremberg, but has been embraced by the right and left alike in this highly immoral country that worships money and business above all else.

Unfortunately, the only way that wilderness and wildlife advocates can find common ground with rural people in the U.S. is if the latter can live in a more natural, pre-European manner. Otherwise, we must fight these people, not compromise with them.

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A southern view
Posted by: cruzecon on Mar 21, 2008 1:44 PM   
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I find this writer has portrayed the "daily reality" of my little corner of Appalachia quite well.
I was born right here, traveled around the world in the military and lived in a lot of different cultures and ended up right back where I started when my mother needed care, because that is just how I was raised.
My family was one of the few that went from being sharecroppers to landowners and college educated and back to the land only for it to be taken away as described in many a country song.
The disconnect between people who love the land because they like to work it for their livlihood and those who have a "big picture" view that is more ideological or idealistic idea of "wilderness" or "natural", than is always practical comes down to that one word, "practical".
This article does a fine job of pointing out that the archetype of Elvis, IS/WAS and CAN BE AGAIN, a unifying concept that MUST be explored as common ground for "practical conservation and ecological preservation and management".
It is NOT an "Us against Them". That is the Babel like confusion that Straussian, Conservative Elitists have carefully crafted by choice of words, colors, and visual images and no matter how much any of us thinks we are "better than that", in reality this article does a good job, pointing out how each "group" has accepted it's stereotype and in using the words given to them by people like Karl Rove, has each, allowed the discussion to be only about false issues that are the smoke and mirrors behind which real damage to the things we all care about is being undertaken in plain view but like the Emperor's subjects, we have only been seeing what we were told was there.
Perhaps to paraphrase the King, "A little less conversation and a little more action" taken with just the facts - Americans want America for themselves NOT corporations and not, dare I say it, for the wealthy elite now controlling OUR Government, who seem poised to sell out the people's places for their own private consumption.

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