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Bush Wildfires Response Can't Atone For Katrina Blunder
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California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger had barely lifted the receiver to call the White House to plead for emergency federal disaster relief to battle the wildfires raging in Southern California before Bush issued an emergency order. The governor's call was pro forma anyway. Bush it appeared already had the disaster proclamation signed, sealed, and ready to be delivered before Schwarzenegger's call. He hurried a virtual armada of federal personnel, equipment, and funds to Southern California, and ordered the head of FEMA, and Homeland Security to make haste to get there. Bush cancelled a scheduled trip to St. Louis to scurry to California on Thursday to get a first hand glimpse of the damage and presumably to give political and moral support to the federal rebuilding effort.
Bush was in a rush to get out front on the wildfires for good reason. He still reels from the big hits that he took and continues to take for his comatose response to the Katrina disaster. Charges of racism, insensitivity, bungling, incompetence, disdain for poor people, and Republicans playing politics with poor black's lives, were only a sampling of the digs that were hurled at Bush for fiddling while New Orleans and the Gulf region sank. Bush has barely a year left in his White House tenure. His domestic and foreign policy initiatives are in shambles. He has a pack of Republican presidential candidates screaming at him to do something and do something fast to rescue the flagging fortunes of the party and their candidacies; in short to look and sound more presidential. The California wildfires give him a chance to look like a strong, caring, and decisive leader in a time of crisis, and to atone for his Katrina fumble.
It also helps that the hundreds of homes that were wiped out were not in a poor ramshackle, crime plagued inner city neighborhood such as the Ninth Ward in New Orleans, but are in middle and wealthy, suburban, resort and semi-rural neighborhoods and areas. A speedy offer of bushels of federal dollars and personnel is a win-win guarantee to draw public praise and applause. This is not to say that the White House response to the fires is solely a crass, cynical political calculation designed to dab some political sheen back onto Bush's deeply corroded star.
Bush's offer of "prayers and thoughts with those who've been affected," seemed genuine enough. In fact, anyone with a heart would offer prayers for those that lost their homes, and suffered injury and death. It's certainly right and appropriate that the federal government play a big role in relief and recovery when any catastrophic disaster strikes. State and local governments simply don't have the resources or the capacity to deal with these kinds of apocalyptic crises.
But despite Bush's speedy response, as terrible as the wildfires are and the suffering and damage that they have wreaked, they are no more horrific than the towering suffering and damage Katrina wreaked. Two years later, thousands of hurricane victims are jobless, homeless, stuck in trailers in distant cities. The hard hit mostly black and poor Ninth Ward in New Orleans still looks like a ghost town.
New Orleans officials still shout at the Bush administration to do more to speed up the glacial paced rebuilding process there. Bush's timely rush to battle the Southern California wildfire conflagration is commendable. The pity is that the same timely rush and effort wasn't made two years earlier in a region a thousand miles east and south of Southern California.
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Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Oct 25, 2007 4:29 PM
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Posted by: macktan on Oct 25, 2007 4:30 PM
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He made sure he didn't set foot in New Orleans until after all the angry black people had been evacuated.
Katrina victims must be renting their shirts after listening to Sen Feinstein assure her constituents that they would get money to rebuild and pay their rent immediately.
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Posted by: rocketman on Oct 25, 2007 6:56 PM
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You should be commending the administration for getting it right this time! But then you wouldn't have anything to complain about!
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Posted by: doinaheckuvajob on Oct 26, 2007 12:51 AM
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The response is not much different from Katrina, only slightly better, from what I've heard.
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Posted by: xbj on Oct 26, 2007 6:38 AM
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Completely to be expected. Besides, all that land already generates plenty of tax revenue, and no one has any plans to build casinos on any of it.
Bush's response is perfect, on time, and yet another huge tactical blunder. But can this Adminstration do anything different, ever?
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Posted by: biskenne on Oct 26, 2007 10:40 AM
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just stayed out of California and let us take care of
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he gets out of here, the better!!!
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Posted by: madelyn.marie on Oct 26, 2007 1:03 PM
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Now, we criticize him for responding too quickly to the fires in California.
What kind of sense does that make?
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Posted by: TruthBeTold on Oct 26, 2007 1:43 PM
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Yes, it really can be said that "the White House response to the fires is solely a crass, cynical political calculation designed to dab some political sheen back onto Bush's deeply corroded star."
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Posted by: danitay on Oct 26, 2007 1:50 PM
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their lives in the fires.
The reason why Schwarzenegger acted faster then Bush-
another fellow "rich" Republican?? The Gov. needs to get
re-elected. Most of the fire affects the wealthy Rep. in Malibu and Orange county. These folk problaly contributed heavily to
his campaign. You see, these folk have more financial options then the poor in New Orleans. Trust me, you will not see people half-starving in the stadiums in San Diego like in New Orleans. Face it-like takes care of like. Bush realizes that if he treated New Orleans in the same way as California it may jeopardize the presidential (God forbid) election of any Republicans. I'm sure that the
Gov. will not send his mother to the San Diego stadium to
make bad statements about the victims.
Just remember...in the Republican world..do not be poor!!
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Posted by: QCao009 on Oct 26, 2007 3:15 PM
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However, the President's reaction should come as no surprise to any American any more. Just because he was awake when the fires happen, should we light a candle and profess our faith ?
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Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Oct 26, 2007 9:01 PM
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important in contrasting California fires and New Orleans floods. New Orleans
will be under water permanently soon. There is nothing an individual who lives
there can reasonably do except move to higher ground. Buying a house below
sea level was a bad idea in the first place, given that there is plenty of land above
sea level elsewhere. [The Netherlands is excluded from this analysis because
The Netherlands happened before global warming.] People who live in New
Orleans will have to "get over" New Orleans sooner or later. That is sad but
inevitable. The fires in California were well above sea level and the area will
soon be a desert. Desertification means no more trees to fuel the fire. More
importantly, there is something individuals who owns houses in the California
fire belt can do. They can (re)build their houses in more fire resistant ways.
Just tile or steel roofs aren't enough. [Steel roofing is available that looks like
wood shakes or anything else you like.] The entire house should be concrete and
steel and rock. Windows should have steel shutters that really work. Vents
likewise, including dryer vents and all other vents. Exterior doors must be steel.
Lawns must be concrete without Astroturf. Roofs and above ground floors
should be made of pre-stressed concrete plank. No wood should be allowed
anywhere. A good place for the swimming pool is on the roof, as a source of
water for a fire sprinkler system. In other words, just a change of building codes
completely changes the situation in California. In New Orleans, the only thing
to do is to move New Orleans to Vicksburg or yourself to Illinois.
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Posted by: K_for_Kansas on Oct 27, 2007 11:01 AM
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Diabolical, really, to use the misery that still reigns there to blame the victims and to perpetuate the fiction that the lack of federal response was merely because the Democrats in charge there weren't playing nice.
I have always believed that hubris creates a particularly painful and humiliating karma. I certainly hope that's the case.
KC_in_KC
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Posted by: rkewen on Oct 27, 2007 5:02 PM
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If you want help in an emergency in the US of A, be WHITE and REPUBLICAN and being CHRISTIAN doesn't hurt either. Other colours and other parties need not apply!
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Posted by: dee.halz on Oct 28, 2007 3:10 PM
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1) California is lots of rich white people (I think it was Greg Palast who cited the vast difference in percentage of people living in poverty who were evacuated from the flooding in New Orleans vs. those living in poverty who were evacuated from the California fire areas. )
2) The governor of California is a Republican. The governor of Louisiana was a Democrat. The Bush admin knew a day before the levees broke that New Orleans was going to be flooded and they SAID NOTHING to the people in the city or the state who were responsible for emergency management and DID NOTHING. And then when the massive flooding broke out and the local authorities couldn't cope, kept blaming the fiasco totally on them. Partisan politics once again trumped people's lives.
But beyond that, even the incompetents in Bush's FEMA would have to be able to handle the fires much better than Katrina. It has been stated elsewhere in the news that something under 1700 homes were affected by the fires. While something over 300,000 homes were affected by Katrina. Comparing the response to the fires with the response to Katrina is like comparing apples to oranges.
Dee H.
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Posted by: jambro on Oct 28, 2007 6:57 PM
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as to the obvious difference - republicans don't give a damn about the poor or black vote ... but that said, california has an advanced infrastructure of emergency services, disaster relief, etc. after all how many earthquakes have they experienced, as well as annual forest, grass & chaparral fires all over the state ..
CA or the west can't be compared to the southeast, which has a poverty of culture as well as a culture of poverty, & never really recovered from the civil war, reconstruction aside, the gulf coast is 3rd world, & that means po white trash as well as a black population that lives far under the poverty line & rural shacks throughout the region make a man cry, and inner city poverty look enviable ...
... those states have an abysmal record of corruption, nepotism, neglect, & rigid class structures .. the working poor (no unions/ lowest paid blue collar workers in the usa, closer to mexico) have no resources nor any chance to escape from trailer park lives ... although bill clinton did manage to escape a trailer trash childhood ...
... the last president to do anything for the south was lyndon johnson, who grew up poor in south central texas, but texas politicians are mostly crooks, its a tradition back to their ins & outs scams with the union, texans suffered the highest percentage of death & injury among confederates, 40% of men 15-65 died in the civil war, texans gunned down black union troops during reconstruction, so they were replaced by whites, aagghh, its a nasty history ..
... the election of 1876, the most corrupt in us history, was won by a yankee reformer (democrat) but lost through louisiana & florida corruption & a bribed supreme court justice, for a mere $10k ...
... it is high time that we stop thinking of the usa as a single unified nation & look at ecological & cultural regionalism, cultural & social differences among white ethnic groups, their settlement histories , etc. look at the scandinavians in minnesota & seattle pioneers in social & health services ...
... yankee districts in oregon willamette valley vs. scot-irish redneck logging communities next door - a century of difference remains in these zones within a valley in western oregon, levels of education, income, etc. ..
... even among afro-americans major regional cultural patterns continue, depending on slave trade populations & remigration north, even districts in cities like chicago are known by their origins, delta, cotton belt mississippi, alabama, georgia & carolina pine wood, south carolina rice growing swamps ... virginia estates, etc .. each community descended from different african ethnic groups imported at different times to different places ...
... but all this is about historical cultural geography, of which americans are as ignorant as much as in denial as they are about nature as a reality not to fight, but with which to find a balance place by place .. one size does not fit all
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Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Oct 30, 2007 10:07 AM
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People in this post said they foresaw what the Feds would would do and some N.O. residents are still without a home. A reader called our newspaper screaming racism because N.O. citizens were choking in filth with Blackwater SS while San Diego's suburban population were housed in a stadium and had on-site baby sitters, cell phone access, pizza and clean bathrooms. Qualcomm was a hotel; the Superdome was substandard housing.
Most of the responses are correct. But all the people whose homes were lost face a daunting task to rebuild-in a fire zone.
They're crazy. But that's Southern California.
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Posted by: fedupw/bush on Nov 2, 2007 12:02 PM
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I'm sorry,But we don't have ANYONE in this goverment or the Congress that will do anything about this I just wanted to make a statement,thanks for your time !
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Posted by: macktan on Oct 25, 2007 4:30 PM
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He made sure he didn't set foot in New Orleans until after all the angry black people had been evacuated.
Katrina victims must be renting their shirts after listening to Sen Feinstein assure her constituents that they would get money to rebuild and pay their rent immediately.
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Posted by: rocketman on Oct 25, 2007 6:56 PM
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You should be commending the administration for getting it right this time! But then you wouldn't have anything to complain about!
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Posted by: doinaheckuvajob on Oct 26, 2007 12:51 AM
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The response is not much different from Katrina, only slightly better, from what I've heard.
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Posted by: xbj on Oct 26, 2007 6:38 AM
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Completely to be expected. Besides, all that land already generates plenty of tax revenue, and no one has any plans to build casinos on any of it.
Bush's response is perfect, on time, and yet another huge tactical blunder. But can this Adminstration do anything different, ever?
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Who's the divider ?
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Posted by: biskenne on Oct 26, 2007 10:40 AM
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just stayed out of California and let us take care of
ourselves; his presence is not wanted! The quicker
he gets out of here, the better!!!
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Posted by: madelyn.marie on Oct 26, 2007 1:03 PM
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Now, we criticize him for responding too quickly to the fires in California.
What kind of sense does that make?
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Posted by: TruthBeTold on Oct 26, 2007 1:43 PM
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Yes, it really can be said that "the White House response to the fires is solely a crass, cynical political calculation designed to dab some political sheen back onto Bush's deeply corroded star."
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Posted by: danitay on Oct 26, 2007 1:50 PM
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their lives in the fires.
The reason why Schwarzenegger acted faster then Bush-
another fellow "rich" Republican?? The Gov. needs to get
re-elected. Most of the fire affects the wealthy Rep. in Malibu and Orange county. These folk problaly contributed heavily to
his campaign. You see, these folk have more financial options then the poor in New Orleans. Trust me, you will not see people half-starving in the stadiums in San Diego like in New Orleans. Face it-like takes care of like. Bush realizes that if he treated New Orleans in the same way as California it may jeopardize the presidential (God forbid) election of any Republicans. I'm sure that the
Gov. will not send his mother to the San Diego stadium to
make bad statements about the victims.
Just remember...in the Republican world..do not be poor!!
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Posted by: QCao009 on Oct 26, 2007 3:15 PM
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However, the President's reaction should come as no surprise to any American any more. Just because he was awake when the fires happen, should we light a candle and profess our faith ?
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Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Oct 26, 2007 9:01 PM
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important in contrasting California fires and New Orleans floods. New Orleans
will be under water permanently soon. There is nothing an individual who lives
there can reasonably do except move to higher ground. Buying a house below
sea level was a bad idea in the first place, given that there is plenty of land above
sea level elsewhere. [The Netherlands is excluded from this analysis because
The Netherlands happened before global warming.] People who live in New
Orleans will have to "get over" New Orleans sooner or later. That is sad but
inevitable. The fires in California were well above sea level and the area will
soon be a desert. Desertification means no more trees to fuel the fire. More
importantly, there is something individuals who owns houses in the California
fire belt can do. They can (re)build their houses in more fire resistant ways.
Just tile or steel roofs aren't enough. [Steel roofing is available that looks like
wood shakes or anything else you like.] The entire house should be concrete and
steel and rock. Windows should have steel shutters that really work. Vents
likewise, including dryer vents and all other vents. Exterior doors must be steel.
Lawns must be concrete without Astroturf. Roofs and above ground floors
should be made of pre-stressed concrete plank. No wood should be allowed
anywhere. A good place for the swimming pool is on the roof, as a source of
water for a fire sprinkler system. In other words, just a change of building codes
completely changes the situation in California. In New Orleans, the only thing
to do is to move New Orleans to Vicksburg or yourself to Illinois.
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Posted by: K_for_Kansas on Oct 27, 2007 11:01 AM
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Diabolical, really, to use the misery that still reigns there to blame the victims and to perpetuate the fiction that the lack of federal response was merely because the Democrats in charge there weren't playing nice.
I have always believed that hubris creates a particularly painful and humiliating karma. I certainly hope that's the case.
KC_in_KC
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Posted by: rkewen on Oct 27, 2007 5:02 PM
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If you want help in an emergency in the US of A, be WHITE and REPUBLICAN and being CHRISTIAN doesn't hurt either. Other colours and other parties need not apply!
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Posted by: dee.halz on Oct 28, 2007 3:10 PM
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1) California is lots of rich white people (I think it was Greg Palast who cited the vast difference in percentage of people living in poverty who were evacuated from the flooding in New Orleans vs. those living in poverty who were evacuated from the California fire areas. )
2) The governor of California is a Republican. The governor of Louisiana was a Democrat. The Bush admin knew a day before the levees broke that New Orleans was going to be flooded and they SAID NOTHING to the people in the city or the state who were responsible for emergency management and DID NOTHING. And then when the massive flooding broke out and the local authorities couldn't cope, kept blaming the fiasco totally on them. Partisan politics once again trumped people's lives.
But beyond that, even the incompetents in Bush's FEMA would have to be able to handle the fires much better than Katrina. It has been stated elsewhere in the news that something under 1700 homes were affected by the fires. While something over 300,000 homes were affected by Katrina. Comparing the response to the fires with the response to Katrina is like comparing apples to oranges.
Dee H.
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Posted by: jambro on Oct 28, 2007 6:57 PM
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as to the obvious difference - republicans don't give a damn about the poor or black vote ... but that said, california has an advanced infrastructure of emergency services, disaster relief, etc. after all how many earthquakes have they experienced, as well as annual forest, grass & chaparral fires all over the state ..
CA or the west can't be compared to the southeast, which has a poverty of culture as well as a culture of poverty, & never really recovered from the civil war, reconstruction aside, the gulf coast is 3rd world, & that means po white trash as well as a black population that lives far under the poverty line & rural shacks throughout the region make a man cry, and inner city poverty look enviable ...
... those states have an abysmal record of corruption, nepotism, neglect, & rigid class structures .. the working poor (no unions/ lowest paid blue collar workers in the usa, closer to mexico) have no resources nor any chance to escape from trailer park lives ... although bill clinton did manage to escape a trailer trash childhood ...
... the last president to do anything for the south was lyndon johnson, who grew up poor in south central texas, but texas politicians are mostly crooks, its a tradition back to their ins & outs scams with the union, texans suffered the highest percentage of death & injury among confederates, 40% of men 15-65 died in the civil war, texans gunned down black union troops during reconstruction, so they were replaced by whites, aagghh, its a nasty history ..
... the election of 1876, the most corrupt in us history, was won by a yankee reformer (democrat) but lost through louisiana & florida corruption & a bribed supreme court justice, for a mere $10k ...
... it is high time that we stop thinking of the usa as a single unified nation & look at ecological & cultural regionalism, cultural & social differences among white ethnic groups, their settlement histories , etc. look at the scandinavians in minnesota & seattle pioneers in social & health services ...
... yankee districts in oregon willamette valley vs. scot-irish redneck logging communities next door - a century of difference remains in these zones within a valley in western oregon, levels of education, income, etc. ..
... even among afro-americans major regional cultural patterns continue, depending on slave trade populations & remigration north, even districts in cities like chicago are known by their origins, delta, cotton belt mississippi, alabama, georgia & carolina pine wood, south carolina rice growing swamps ... virginia estates, etc .. each community descended from different african ethnic groups imported at different times to different places ...
... but all this is about historical cultural geography, of which americans are as ignorant as much as in denial as they are about nature as a reality not to fight, but with which to find a balance place by place .. one size does not fit all
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Posted by: xbj on Oct 29, 2007 1:22 AM
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Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Oct 30, 2007 10:07 AM
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People in this post said they foresaw what the Feds would would do and some N.O. residents are still without a home. A reader called our newspaper screaming racism because N.O. citizens were choking in filth with Blackwater SS while San Diego's suburban population were housed in a stadium and had on-site baby sitters, cell phone access, pizza and clean bathrooms. Qualcomm was a hotel; the Superdome was substandard housing.
Most of the responses are correct. But all the people whose homes were lost face a daunting task to rebuild-in a fire zone.
They're crazy. But that's Southern California.
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Posted by: fedupw/bush on Nov 2, 2007 12:02 PM
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I'm sorry,But we don't have ANYONE in this goverment or the Congress that will do anything about this I just wanted to make a statement,thanks for your time !
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