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Big Banks Are Selling Us Out on Climate Change

By Tara Lohan, AlterNet. Posted October 6, 2007.


Whether we avert catastrophe with climate change may actually be decided by Citibank and Bank of America.
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We're nearing the end of the window of opportunity we have to avert the catastrophic effects predicted from the earth's changing climate. We're either going to sink or swim. Our best hope at this time is to drastically reduce our greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions, like carbon dioxide.

Global leaders are putting their heads together to come up with solutions. Across the world, countries and municipalities are passing legislation to limit GHG emissions; people are cutting consumption; new technologies are being developed to further alternative energy sources. And yet, in the United States, the coal industry has us poised to move in the absolute wrong direction. Right now, there are about 150 new coal-fired power plants on the drawing board. The amount of polluting emissions they will release is staggering -- between 600 million and 1.1 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year, for the next 50 years. And this, according to Rainforest Action Network (RAN), will basically negate every other effort currently being considered to fight climate change.

Over the last 20 years since Bill McKibben wrote the first global warming book for a general audience, only a few things have changed: Scientists have realized the problem is worse than they thought, and the crisis is coming on faster than predicted.

"The final question as to whether we can address it in serious fashion is whether the coal that is in the ground stays in the ground," said McKibben. "We already know that we are going to burn all the oil we can get our hands on because we have gotten our hands on most of it and it is intensely valuable. Coal, on the other hand, is the question. If the 150 power plants get built, there is no use talking about compact fluorescent light bulbs or mass transit or any of those other things ... we'll have no hope of averting climate change short of catastrophic proportions."

And what's the quickest way to halt those plants? Follow the money.

Without funding from banks, companies don't have the resources to front the $140 billion necessary to construct all those new dirty power plants. Rainforest Action Network learned that the money trail is not so complicated; it leads to two main banks -- Citi and Bank of America.

The Case Against Citi

Citi currently holds the title as the world's largest bank and biggest company. A few years ago, they also were leading the way in addressing environmental and human rights concerns in their industry. As RAN details in their new report "Banks, Climate Change and the New Coal Rush": In May 2007, Citi pledged to "direct $50 billion over the next 10 years to address global climate change through investments ..." Financing for renewable energy, energy efficiency and improvements in energy infrastructure amount to $31 billion spread across 10 years. While this may seem like a significant commitment, it amounts to less than 0.2 percent of the company's $2.2 trillion in assets. What is Citi doing with the other 99.8 percent? The answer to that question is that Citi has been busy funding dirty energy. Last year they gave 200 times more money for dirty energy than for clean. In the process they've helped underwrite some of the world's worst environmental and human rights offenders. Here's a sample:


  • In 2006 they gave $4 billion to Peabody Energy, the world's largest coal mining company, which has been ravaging Dine and Hopi lands for 40 years, taking 2.5 million gallons of water out of their desert watershed each day and leaving behind a trail of toxic waste.
  • In 2006 they gave $400 million to Drummond, a mining company, which is facing repercussions for allegedly hiring paramilitary groups to kill Colombian coal miners trying to unionize.
  • They've given billions of dollars to Massey Energy, Arch Coal, Alpha Natural Resources, and other coal companies that practice mountaintop removal (MTR) coal mining that involves blowing the tops off of Appalachian mountains, filling valleys, burying streams, poisoning waterways and impoverishing communities.
  • Citi helps finance American Electric Power (to the tune of $12 billion), which is working to maintain its designation as the single biggest GHG polluter in the country by building five new dirty coal plants, adding another 21 million tons of CO2 to their annual emissions of 163 million tons.
  • Citi is also the top underwriter of scandal-tainted Dynegy (involved in the Enron debacle and price manipulations in California) that is leading the industries' coal rush and plans to build eight new plants, increasing their CO2 emissions by 200 percent.

The case against Bank of America

Bank of America is not far behind Citi. It has also pledged to become an environmentally sustainable business, but it doesn't seem to walk its talk. Last year it spent 100 times more on dirty than clean energy, and it gives less than 0.2 percent to helping fight climate change.

Like Citi, BOA is making friends with some of the world's worst companies.


  • They've given big money to companies that are devastating Appalachia with MTR mining. Arch Coal got $700 million and long-repudiated Massey Energy scored $175 million.
  • The disastrous Peabody Energy got $4 billion last year from BOA, which should help them on their way to building new plants in New Mexico, Illinois and Kentucky.
  • Alpha Natural Resources also got $525 million to help its 27 surfaces mines in Appalachia.

The stupidity factor

The reasons for moving away from coal are overwhelming. Scientists tell us we have about a decade to stabilize CO2 emissions and the easiest way to do that is to cut down on coal consumption -- the number one contributor to climate change.

Each year, the American Lung Association reports, an estimated 24,000 people in the United States die prematurely from pollution emitted by coal-fired power plants. And it is not just the burning of coal that is dangerous -- extraction, especially practices like MTR coal mining that blow the tops off mountains, are devastating to the land and the people.

"The banks are funding this war on Appalachia, and they are funding domestic terrorism," said Judy Bonds, a 10th generation mountaineer in West Virginia who is the founder of Coal River Mountain Watch and the winner of the Goldman Environmental Prize.

"We are being bombed every day by three and a half million pounds of explosives. We can smell and taste explosives. They damage our homes, shake our nerves and poison our air," she said. "The banks are helping coal to take the wealth from us, to steal us blind and leave us in poverty, and leave us in poison." Despite the overwhelming environmental and humanitarian concerns, even from an investment standpoint, putting your chips on coal is a sure loss.

In the last few years, a political upswing has occurred in the fight against climate change. Al Gore's film and the success of grassroots movements like Step It Up, which organized 1,400 rallies in all 50 states, has garnered momentum.

Other countries have already begun regulating carbon, and the United States will follow suit. Currently there are a handful of bills in Congress to cap emissions and establish a carbon-trading program in the United States, making polluters pay.

"Coal looks cheap at the moment because we charge it nothing for its environmental damage," said Bill McKibben. "But when we do, you need to be a real sucker for wanting anything to do with new coal."

Coal, he added, "is about to become as expensive fiscally as it is environmentally."

Laying out money for dirty energy just doesn't make good business sense. When investors look at the proposition of financing coal plants, they have to look at future returns, and when you look at banks like Citi and BOA, said Leslie Lowe of the Interfaith Center on Corporate Responsibility, "you have ask, 'what are they thinking?' It is clear we will have a cost for carbon in this country, so every coal plant that emits more CO2 will be a liability long-term."

Funding the future

Fortunately, we have the choice to move this country in the right direction by pressuring Citi and BOA to fund clean, instead of dirty, energy.

If those banks took the $141 billion they plan to spend on building new coal plants, and instead invested it in energy efficient measures, they could reduce electricity demand by 19 percent by 2025.

RAN reports that, "By 2020, the U.S. could meet 20 percent of its electricity needs from renewable sources. This would avert the need for 975 new power plants, allow for the closing of 180 old coal plants and 14 existing nuclear plants, and save consumers $440 billion." The push for no new coal is being echoed across the country. Step It Up and 1 Sky Campaign are both calling for a moratorium on new coal power plants, as well as an 80 percent carbon reduction by 2050 and the creation of 5 million green jobs to help us conserve 20 percent of our energy by 2015.

"By transitioning to a clean energy future that prioritizes energy efficiency -- and clean renewable sources like solar and wind power -- we can meet our future energy needs, build a stronger economy, keep our communities healthy and curb climate change," RAN's report advises. "Tell Citi and Bank of America to stop funding dirty coal projects and to redirect their resources and investments toward clean energy. Don't let your money be used to fund climate change."

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Congratulations, Almost
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Oct 6, 2007 1:06 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Tara Lohan, the article was great until you said: "Closing 14
existing nuclear plants." Please explain your aversion to nuclear
power. I have explained to you many times why nuclear power is
the cleanest available that will meet our needs and that wind and
solar simply will not meet our needs. Renewable sources of
energy are nice, but inadequate. It is necessary to do the
arithmetic, no matter how much you dislike arithmetic and no
matter how bad your allergy to math. If you had said: "close 14
obsolete nuclear plants and replace them with the latest and safest
reactors that use nuclear waste as fuel," I would understand. But
you didn't. So please tell me, what do you have against nuclear
power?

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» RE: Congratulations, Almost Posted by: AsteroidMiner
» RE: Congratulations, Almost Posted by: VannaLaRoche
» RE: Congratulations, Almost Posted by: kelly.nickell
» RE: uranium mining Posted by: AsteroidMiner
» The usual right-wing blather Posted by: ReallyBearish
» RE: The usual right-wing blather Posted by: AsteroidMiner
» RE: Congratulations, Almost Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» NOTHING is "clean"..... Posted by: mjabele
» RE: NOTHING is "clean"..... Posted by: jmp3954
» Except INDUSTRIAL HEMP. Posted by: maxpayne
» I read your posts... Posted by: mjabele
Sorry, this comment has been removed from the system.
» Talk dirty to me. Posted by: James T. Swaggart
» RE: Need I remind you of CHERNOBYL? Posted by: AsteroidMiner
» RE: Congratulations, Almost Posted by: leerhok
» RE: Congratulations, Almost Posted by: AsteroidMiner
» RE: Congratulations, Almost Posted by: leerhok
» RE: Congratulations, Almost Posted by: AsteroidMiner
» RE: Congratulations, Almost Posted by: Vyking
» "needing" nuclear power Posted by: ogion
» ATTN cable subscribers: Posted by: vox persona
The Real Stupidity - Not Making the Moral Choice
Posted by: phaedrus2u on Oct 6, 2007 5:28 AM   
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It's the mainstream that's lunatic, not Tara. Why do we continue to make choices that will kill us? Our culture is one of hate and death. If it was a culture of love and value for life, we wouldn't need this debate about coal and nukes.

The solutions, as one poster said, include efficiency and renewables, but we also need a lot less people; particularly fewer Americans, and a reversal to tribalization from globalization. It is the psychotic megalomania of the MAINSTREAM that's doing us in.

The Amish live fine with coal power or nukes and they aren't starving. Given a choice between extinction and the Luddite life, I'll take life.

It will not be until the inevitable crises come that people will get serious about questioning the sacred cow of the "economy." Economics is based on artificial, untenable premises - such as the presumption of infinite growth in a finite system and the placement of no value on natural resources. Folks, we can't have BOTH! We can't have Hummers, coal plants, nuke plants, modern agriculture, cheap crap from China AND a nice planet to live on.

With half the population technologically placated (think IPods, Wiis and Big Screens) and the other half still believing in religious mythologies, no wonder we're fucked.

All that's left is a few Unitarians and the rest of the "lunatic fringe."

I'll stand with Tara and make the moral choice. I love life.

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Why is this so hard to hear?
Posted by: Urstrly on Oct 6, 2007 5:28 AM   
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Right after Dick Cheney had his little sit-down with Big Energy in 2001, I began to see ads for coal plants claiming how much cleaner they were than the "old" ones, and they haven't stopped. Yet coal is non-renewable. After we destroy acres and acres of forest, demolish landscapes and risk the lives of countless miners and destroy their health, we will use it up. The carbon will be up there in the atmosphere choking the planet. Then what? Don't Republicans breathe too?

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» RE: Why is this so hard to hear? Posted by: kelly.nickell
» Don't Republicans breathe too? Posted by: boydranchitos
You're joking, right?
Posted by: EKSwitaj on Oct 7, 2007 6:23 AM   
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Ron Paul doesn't believe in global warming.

http://heatison.org/content/quote_entry/june_29_2006

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It should be obvious
Posted by: fearn on Oct 6, 2007 7:35 AM   
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It should be obvious that those who would give us coal and nuclear power plants are not doing this to save the planet. Making a profit has become America's number one obsession even though we can't eat or breath a profit. As we know from the disasters that currently plaque our planet this is not good enough. If we don't make big changes to solve these big problems things will only get worse.

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» RE: It should be obvious Posted by: donl51
Manmade Catastrophic Global Warming Not True
Posted by: DrColes on Oct 6, 2007 7:41 AM   
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August 2007 Update: Manmade Catastrophic Global Warming Not True. In order to be an intelligent reader you must have a basic knowledge. Please do your own homework, a starting point http://www.InteliOrg.com/ and Flawed NASA Global Warming data paid for by George Soros.

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So, who
Posted by: willymack on Oct 6, 2007 10:05 AM   
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Would allow the hideous destruction of beautiful mountains, along with the poisoning of the surrounding enviornment, thereby ruining the lives of fellow Americans? Who would drag us into a ruinous "war", puportedly to remove a dangerous dictator, and export"democracy" there, but actually to illegally steal their oil and establish a permanent presense in the Middle East, while doing their best to eliminate democracy here? Who would loot our treasury, while at the same time, attack Social Security, Medicare, and everything else aimed at improving the lives os millions of Americans? Why, the same criminals who stole the 2000 & 2004 "elections", that's who. How do you bubbleheaded bush lovers like your hero now? The election of 2008, which may ALREADY have been rigged, is too late to do anything to make things right; the bushie bastards must be stopped NOW, but how?

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» Why does this Posted by: IPF
» RE: Why does this Posted by: willymack
» RE: Why does this Posted by: IPF
BoA, Citibank on life support - Hoooray!
Posted by: MAD on Oct 6, 2007 10:31 AM   
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With any luck, these two slimeball corps will not weather the coming storm. If anyone had paid attention to our current economic "dilemma" (to put it mildly), they they would know that these fuckers have hundreds of billions of toxic loans on the books and they've only just given us a brief glimpse of what's really there. That will come later this year when the SEC compels them to fess up after an abysmal Christmas shopping season sends the economy spiraling. Watch for big news round 'bout mid October, too.

As it stands right now, these pieces of shit are only writing off several billion at a time but anyone familiar with the situation knows that it's a far, far bigger problem than they have lead us to believe. If there is one bit of good news to come from this subprime meltdown (and the millions of foreclosures sure to ensue), it's that these banks are left with loans that will have to be auctioned off for pennies on the dollar, if that. They lose hundreds and hundreds of billions and the whole ship goes down.

I know - the Fed will bail them out, right? Wrong. The extent of the crisis will be so massive that even the Fed will not be able to bail them out (even if it wanted to) without cheapening the dollar to such an extent that the entire US economy collapses around it. Sometimes even the big boys have to play the sacrificial lamb. Let's hope it's these two.

"Citigroup to announce profits off by 60%"

Re: BoA
"Clearly, the bank's Level 3 assets are under stress. In addition to its $21.6 billion in Level 3 assets, it has a whopping $609 billion in Level 2 assets, where there may be market activity, but valuations often depend on internal valuation models in the absence of quoted prices. Only $64 billion of Bank of America's assets fall into Level 1, where valuations are set by quoted prices."

Have a gander at those level 2 assets. Ruh Row!

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» Let's Hope Let"s Hope!!!! NM Posted by: Gravitas
Profit maximizing gangster capitalism is destroying the planet
Posted by: jcrw on Oct 6, 2007 1:58 PM   
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The specifics revealed in this article are interesting. But they further illustrate that global capitalism in nearly every aspect is destroying the planet in it's relentless drive for profit.

Enviornmental destruction will continue unabated when the Bush gang (with Demoratic Party complicity) opposes any pollution control or treaties that negatively affects profits.

Wars will continue unabated as long as war making is privatized and the only source of profit for the vast military industrial complex.

All funds used for the common good and public needs (Social Security, public schools, health care, environment) etc. are being reduced and redirected towards privatized profit-making ventures and funding the wars.

Human beings and human needs are of no concern to corporate capitalism. Humans who are nothing but "human resources" to be used for profit or discarded.

Unprofitable human beings will inevitably be eliminated, individually or massively. If people cannot afford the price of corporate supplied potable water, food, health care, etc. they will simply die.

Does the U.S. or U.K. give a damn about the million or so Iraqi's slaughtered during the current wars for oil and hegemony?

Global warming continues unabated along with automobile sales, oil company profits and unending wars for profit.

What we have today is a global GENOCIDE OF THE UNPROFITABLE.

Some form of regulation and democratic control of the economy (socialism) is essential to stop polluters, to end wars, to end massive government corruption.

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This is a non-issue
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Oct 6, 2007 2:24 PM   
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The coming economic Depression will kill these energy projects and force most of the industrial world to use substantially less energy. Ultimately, the world needs fewer people, not more, and the collapse of the financial system will convince large segments of the population that small families are in their best interests.

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False premises, but valid conclusions
Posted by: dayahka on Oct 6, 2007 4:02 PM   
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You begin with false premises, such as : Scientists tell us we have about a decade to stabilize CO2 emissions and the easiest way to do that is to cut down on coal consumption -- the number one contributor to climate change. Would you care to tell us just which "scientists" these are? (And surely you don't mean the pseudo-scientist, Al Gore and his fictional movie.)

This article is an example of false premises leading to a desired conclusion. First off, let's get this straight: CO2 has little to do with climate change. The climate is always changing due to the planet's orbital eccentricities, axial wobble, solar brightness variation, cosmic ray flux, super volcanic events and tectonic movement, and water vapor and clouds--and none of these are anthropogenic. CO2 and a host of other greenhouse gases (methane among them) also play a minor role. Reducing CO2 emissions is not going to do much, if anything, to reduce global warming, if it is in fact occurring. So, beginning the article with false premises is not a good way to start.

But the rest of the article has some merit. Regardless of the CO2 involved, coal is in fact dirty. Clean coal does not exist. What is called clean coal today is dirty. Burning coal is bad, no matter how you look at it. And funding "clean coal" companies is like funding neutron bombs--you still end up killing people (and other life). And, yes, the bankers are bonkers, and yes, capitalism is a deadly disease. And yes, we should be reducing our consumption of oil or coal based energy and developing alternatives instead.

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Unless "Free Trade" is Stopped, Nothing Will Happen
Posted by: sofla100 on Oct 6, 2007 6:06 PM   
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The fact is, these big banks are involved in the massive global re-allocation of capital. Due to "free trade," much of the capital today is in China and other countries of the developing world. It is no longer exclusively or even primarily particularly concentrated in either Western Europe or the USA. And, for these developing countries, the thing that counts most is ratcheting up industrial production and access to resources. Now, to do this, safety and environmental issues are only an impediment to the economic bottom line. It costs money to address them, and development comes first. The banks, of course, follow along with this. So-called "free trade" only encourages this as manufacturing has shifted to where it can be performed the cheapest. In countries like China where environmental regulation is lax. The solution starts with the elimination of "free trade," then issues like global warming and human rights can start being addressed. Otherwise, it will not happen.

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Intolerance was never a progressive trait
Posted by: IPF on Oct 6, 2007 11:36 PM   
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We're nearing the end of the window of opportunity we have to avert the catastrophic effects predicted from the earth's changing climate. We're either going to sink or swim. Our best hope at this time is to drastically reduce our greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions, like carbon dioxide.

The truth is far from this, and quite difficult to understand.

Face it, the earth is warming and has for the past few hundred years. Get over it. It has nothing to do with SUV's, industry or even CO2 emissions. We're in the middle of a cycle, which thank goodness is still warming. Once it starts to cool again, hang on, 'cause it's going to get ugly, and we're going to need all the industry and technology we can muster to get over that hump.

Once the earth reverts to cooling, as it undoubtedly will, the crops will start failing, Winters will last through the Summer months and the third will countries will see devastation, the likes of which in the modern world we have only seen through war.

Yes indeed, there is a window of opportunity to prepare for the end of the warming cycle. Why, pray tell, are we wasting out time with CO2 emissions when we should be studying cold climate crops and agriculture? Why are we wasting - literally throwing away - billions and soon to be trillions of dollars on controlling a gas that is a moot issue to begin with?

Primarily because politicians need a straw man to scare us into giving them our money and justifying the powers they want. Thus, they scream about the oceans rising and the polar caps melting, when in reality the antarctic shelf is growing not melting. Fudge the numbers and smoke and mirrors games are all it takes to get the media to back the doom and gloom scenarios, which are basically crap science.

I'm stocking up on dehydrated food, and energy sources, as well as planning for the inevitable cooling. Haven't you been hearing that we are at the highest temperature point in out cycle? What does that tell you?

That we've either reached or are very close to reaching the extreme point in the cycle. What then?

Will we start encouraging the emission of CO2?

Good luck with that...

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» The Straw Man Posted by: LeaderofMen
Mass production of eco friendly electricity is possible
Posted by: leerhok on Oct 7, 2007 12:55 AM   
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In most parts of the globe you can produce the power you need by solar panels on your roof and walls or by mini wind mills on/in your roof/garden or both. Large areas on sea, lakes and mountains can be windmilled and deserts solar paneled. In addition you have power from hydro, waves, tides and biomass. In total easily many times total consumption today. Add improved building insulation and use of electricity. Also add electric autos with improved batteries giving you a range of some hundred miles on a single plug in.

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The future belongs to those of the multinational energy corporations
Posted by: leerhok on Oct 7, 2007 1:08 AM   
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that change their main philosophy from fossil energy to eco friendly one (hydro, waves, tidal, wind, solar, bio).

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Don't Look To Banks...
Posted by: BlackbirdHighway on Oct 7, 2007 4:43 AM   
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or auto makers, or oil companies, or most other businesses to help in this fight. It will take grassroots efforts, and lots of it:

1) Conserve, find ways to reduce the energy you needs.
2) If possible, generate your own energy from solar, wind, or any other clean renewable sources you can find.
3) Vote the dinosaurs in congress and the white house out, and new progressives in that will pass laws to change status quo. Right now, there are strong economic incentives favoring coal and other polluting technologies. New laws can reverse that, and provide incentives for clean technologies instead.
4) It takes more than just your vote. You must convince others to vote also. That means donating to good politicians, volunteering, and convincing your friends, relatives, neighbors, and townsfolk to vote.
5) Tell polluting businesses that you are not happy with their behaviour, and that you will not give them your money unless they clean up.

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This is not a personal attack!
Posted by: Just The Facts on Oct 7, 2007 10:00 AM   
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At the risk of derailing conversation with some facts, how about a dose of reality:

Beating up on Banks that provide financing to energy and mining companies that keep your lights on really does not contribute to a meaningful dialog ... unless of course there is a mainstream and viable energy alternative that is being systematically repressesd by evil corporations. Well is there? No? Ok then lets just keep bemoaning the decline of community, mountain tops, streams, CO2 emmissions, whatever (can you say hypocrite?). Please post some articles that are balanced in truth and provide some ideas with at least one foot in reality. For example, while you are waiting for a viable energy alternative to come along please commit to do the following:

Stop any oil-based travel, turn off all non-essential energy consumption (including your PC and big screen TV), and move all your 401Ks out of any corporate stock or facilitating bank, fund clean coal research, nuclear, wind, solar,fusion and anything else to get us off of Middle east oil.

I will be surprised if this dose of reality makes it to the comment line. But honestly this article from Ms. Lohan is unbalanced, unhelpful, negative and unnecessarily creates boogey men who are concerned Americans just like all of you,

Best Regards

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The Power Of Bankers
Posted by: Jeff Hoffman on Oct 7, 2007 12:23 PM   
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When François Mitterrand was first elected as a socialist president of France, the bankers called him into a meeting and told him that he could do whatever he wanted BUT, if he insisted on implementing socialist policies, the bankers would screw up France's economy so much that he would soon be removed from office by popular demand.

Unfortunately, anti-Semites have perverted the truth about evil bankers by making it an anti-Semitic issue. Forget the Jewish part, but bankers are the most powerful group of people on the planet, even more so than those who run the oil industry. Bankers prioritize money above all else and have created economic systems, in the U.S. and globally, that are based on destroying the Earth and native cultures in order to make money.

If we fail to get enough people to recognize the extent of the power bankers have and the evil they cause, nothing will ever significantly change. And until Americans and others who try to emulate us give up our obsession with materialism and greed, there will be no incentive to scrutinize the power bankers wield and the massive destruction they cause with that power. In fact, these obsessions, through consumerism, provide the fuel needed for bankers to do their evil deeds.

P.S. One thing people can do is to withdraw ALL their money from banks and put it into a local credit union where available. There is no excuse for someone who considers him- or herself to be a progressive to have ANY money in a bank if a local credit union is available.

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Stanimal
Posted by: drfun on Oct 7, 2007 6:10 PM   
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Energy demand worldwide is beyond supply's ability to provide, and developing countries are bringing on-line two coal fired plants a week. So, emissions are naturally going to rise; especially in these newly emerging capitalists markets.
There are plans to build more than 100 nuclear power plants over the next twenty years, China will account for 40 of them.
So, it's futile to say nuclear will not have role in the planet's energy supply.
It will take a rude "Awakening" on humanity before the denier's finally see that the current lifestyle of society has irreversibly brought about the downfall of the human species. I'm so indebted to the "Free Market Society" contributions to the world. Your money won't buy you air to breathe or water to drink after you kind has greedily stuffed your pockets from poisoning all the bountiful earth has allowed you to rape and sell at the expense of the 95% who "Service" your whims.

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One of Hillary's Top Ten Contributors...
Posted by: snooper on Oct 8, 2007 9:30 AM   
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Citi is one of Hillary's top ten contributors too (helps to make her one of the top ten senate recipients of corporate money, that along with corporate lobbying firms...)

Citi paid for her senate seat (one of the reasons she voted against the bankrtupcy bill in 2001) - if anyone thinks she'll do anything on climate that harms Citi's bottom line, think again.

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Fear Mongers
Posted by: Nick on Oct 8, 2007 11:46 AM   
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We still trying to get rid of fear mongers on the right,
as fear mongers on the left are coming

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