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Environment

Pepsi Forced to Admit It's Bottling Tap Water

By Amy Goodman, Democracy Now!. Posted August 2, 2007.


Pepsi is being forced to change the labels on its Aquafina water to admit it is tap water.
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AMY GOODMAN: The soft drink giant Pepsi has been forced to make an embarrassing admission: Its bestselling Aquafina bottled water is nothing more than tap water. Last week, Pepsi agreed to change the labels of Aquafina to indicate the water comes from a public water source. Pepsi agreed to change its label under pressure from the advocacy group Corporate Accountability International, which has been leading an increasingly successful campaign against bottled water.

In San Francisco, Mayor Gavin Newsom recently banned city departments from using city money to buy any kind of bottled water. In New York, local residents are being urged to drink tap water. The U.S. Conference of Mayors has passed a resolution that highlighted the importance of municipal water and called for more scrutiny of the impact of bottled water on city waste.

The environmental impact of the country's obsession with bottled water has been staggering. Each day an estimated 60 million plastic water bottles are thrown away. Most are not recycled. The Pacific Institute has estimated 20 million barrels of oil are used each year to make the plastic for water bottles.

Economically, it makes sense to stop buying bottled water as well. The Arizona Daily Star recently examined the cost difference between bottled water and water from the city's municipal supply. A half-liter of Pepsi's Aquafina at a Tucson convenience store costs $1.39. The bottle contains purified water from the Tucson water supply. From the tap, you can pour over 6.4 gallons for a penny. That makes the bottled stuff about 7,000 times more expensive, even though Aquafina is using the same water source.

Gigi Kellett of Corporate Accountability International joins us in Boston, the group spearheading the Think Outside the Bottle campaign. We're also joined by freelance writer Michael Blanding. Last year he wrote an article for Alternet.org called "The Bottled Water Lie." We welcome you both to Democracy Now!

I want to begin with Gigi Kellett. Talk about Pepsi's admission.

GIGI KELLETT: Well, after a couple of years of our Think Outside the Bottle campaign, we have been asking of the bottled water corporations to come clean about where they get their water, what is the source of the water that they're bottling, because most people don't know that Pepsi's Aquafina, Coke's Dasani, come from our public water systems. And so, after thousands of phone calls, thousands of public comments submitted to the corporation, and us taking these demands directly to the corporation's annual shareholder meeting this year, Pepsi last week made the announcement that it would reveal that it gets its water from our public water systems.

AMY GOODMAN: Now, where exactly does Pepsi get it? Which public water supply?

GIGI KELLETT: Well, that is the issue that we're really looking at next, is what cities are they bottling the water in. You know, here in Massachusetts, it's coming from Ayre, Mass. So we want to make sure that on those bottles it says: "Public water source: Ayre, Massachusetts." That way, people know exactly what they're getting when they're buying that Aquafina bottled water.

AMY GOODMAN: Ayre being the name of a town in Massachusetts.

GIGI KELLETT: Ayre is the name of a town, right. Exactly.

AMY GOODMAN: And what happens to the town? They have their public water supply, and they have the plant for Pepsi?

GIGI KELLETT: That's right. We want to make sure that -- you know, Pepsi has certainly taken a lead on this for the bottled water industry, and we want to make sure that Coke and Nestle also follow suit. One of the things that we're finding as we're talking to people about this issue on the street is that they don't know where the water is coming from. And the bottled water corporations have spent tens of millions of dollars on ads that make people think that bottled water is somehow better, cleaner, safer than our public water systems. And in reality, we know that that's not true. And so, we want to make sure that we're increasing our people's confidence in their public water systems once again and knowing that we need to be investing in our public systems.

AMY GOODMAN: Gigi, can you go further on who owns what? You mention Nestle. What does Nestle own?

GIGI KELLETT: Nestle owns several dozen brands of bottled water. The bottled water brand they source from our public water systems is called Nestle Pure Life. They also own Poland Spring, Ozarka, Arrowhead. The list goes on. And regionally, it's distributed across the country. And then we also have Coca-Cola, which bottles Dasani water, and, of course, Pepsi with Aquafina.

AMY GOODMAN: And when it comes to being tap water, what is the difference between plain tap water and distilled water from these public sources.

GIGI KELLETT: Well, there's very little difference. You know, our public water systems go through a very rigorous testing and monitoring system and is tested by the Environmental Protection Agency. So we want to make sure that people know that our public water systems are much better regulated than these bottled water brands, which don't have to go through the same rigorous type of process.


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And if you're still worried
Posted by: racetoinfinity on Aug 2, 2007 1:12 AM   
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about your tap water (besides acting for change to guarantee it's healthfulness) - you can buy a pitcher and filter system like PUR or Brita - for a lot less cost and a lot less environmental negative impact.

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» YES! Posted by: wheresarah
» RE: YES! Posted by: wheresarah
» You can also use PUR/Brita Posted by: hurricane hugo
tryanny of the corporation
Posted by: Lector on Aug 2, 2007 1:48 AM   
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corporations have only two objectives in order to survive as a non-living entity: maintain liquidity and make a profit. How they do it, what lies they have to spin, who they have to walk over, doesn't matter and the consumer be damned.

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» RE: tryanny of the corporation Posted by: pleaseplanttrees
I want my money back!
Posted by: shangrilalad on Aug 2, 2007 2:53 AM   
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“Pepsi Forced to Admit . . . ”
Admit! Forget that, I want my money back!


Our political system is so corrupt that it corrupts or defeats one and all with a death of a thousand cuts. Every agreement reached, every law passed; or not, is a result of mind to mind combat where all are scarred. Combat wounds eventually heal, but self-inflicted wounds fester. Betrayal of a trust leaves you feeling diminished, providing you have a conscience, but not everyone has a conscience, some are stuck in primitive subconscious state. Like Dick Cheney.

A good offense has always been the best defense, and Cheney is one of the most offensive. That’s the mark of the “winners.”

Subconscious is the fight or flight survival mode which some leaders live in and exploit to gather followers and power. But they diminish themselves and their countrymen in their lust for power, and all the pleasures that power bequeaths.

We elect politicians to represent us, but they don’t. Our Representatives represent wealth and power for their own advancement, and that’s the way our political system works. We elect leaders, but once they get to D.C., the political process which excludes any input from the average American, takes over. The individuals we elect don’t determine our fate as a nation, the process does. And the process is corrupt by design. Designed by “special interests” who control both parties.

We are ruled by a sociopathic system, and the only way the meek can get out from under, is to rip it apart and start over.

If only we had the time.

.

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» Money back??!!! Posted by: Habaro
» Seriously though, Posted by: Habaro
» 100% agree Posted by: pleaseplanttrees
I once bought aquifina bottled water . . .
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Aug 2, 2007 3:15 AM   
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and all i got was SECOND PRIZE in a wet tee shirt contest . . .

. . . *damn you louie anderson!* . . . *shakes fist at gods* . . .

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All taps are not created equal
Posted by: hagwind on Aug 2, 2007 4:54 AM   
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That's why I spend my spare change on beer instead of designer water. My tap water tastes fine, but it doesn't taste like beer. Different tap, different drink. If you can't tell your beer from your tap water, either you need a filter or a you're drinking cheap beer. (Or possibly you're living on the Big Rock Candy Mountain, in case disregard this message and carry on, carry on -- I'll get there when I get there.)

While we're at it, the artificially sweetened and flavored iced tea that comes in bottles doesn't taste much like the real thing. Brew your own, and add your own flavors. (A dash of cranberry juice is good.) If the convenience stores could jettison all those refrigerators, they'd save a helluva lot on electricity and free up that space for chocolate bars.

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» RE: All taps are not created equal Posted by: quitecontrary
Where did they think it was from?
Posted by: bookie on Aug 2, 2007 4:57 AM   
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As I sit here at my desk, drinking tap water, I wonder where the bottled water drinkers think their bottled water came from? There's a pristine little mountain brook bringing them all this pure water? Bottled water is a nice option when I'm traveling a distance and get thirsty on the way. I"d rather get a bottle of water under that circumstance than buy a soda. Hard for me to believe that many folks buy all their water. I wonder how much we average per person in this country?

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» What are you talking about? Posted by: bookie
» oops Posted by: bookie
The Most Hysterical LOL CON
Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive on Aug 2, 2007 5:32 AM   
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PEPSI SELLING TAP WATER as expensive bottled water to the cupidic dweeby dippy public. Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,! OMG...LOL and rolling on the floor. this is the best CON ever foisted on the American public. The CON men of old are turning over in their graves laughing themselves silly!

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Why aren't they being sued for previously having lied to consumers?
Posted by: Cruella on Aug 2, 2007 6:04 AM   
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People have been paying for that stuff for years thinking it was some kind of mineral water. Why do we let corporates get away with things like that? Surely everyone who's bought the product in the past should now get a refund? No?

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Drink tap water but get a serious water filter, duh!
Posted by: stina723 on Aug 2, 2007 7:21 AM   
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"...And tap water, there's actually a rigorous testing and monitoring of the water supply that actually in many cases makes it healthier...."
yes that could be true, but PLEASE tell the whole story. When you drink tap water (unfiltered) you are drinking chlorine, fluoride (some cities/municipalities do not fluoridate the water ex. New Jersey) heavy metals from the pipes the water has traveled in, etc. Yes, the water is tested, but do you think the EPA is testing it every day? no. Nor are they testing it when it comes out of your pipes. Also the EPA has decided that low amts of substances are ok to drink, like arsenic, insecticides, herbicides, etc. I beg to differ, the amt that is ok to drink of these things should be ZERO!
About 2 years ago, I invested approx $1200 in a point-of-use water filtration system for my kitchen tap and a heavy duty shower filter. I then got my water tested to see if any things could be detected and to make sure the filtration system was actually working. Well the lab could not detect anything except minerals....it was the best investment I ever made. Also don't be fooled - Brita and Pur are useless, maybe they filter a little chlorine but they're not doing much else.
I do not buy bottled water, I simply fill a 1-2 liter bottle of my filtered water and carry that around w/ me all day.
I never liked Aquafina water, if you drink that at room temperature, it tastes disgusting.

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skeptik
Posted by: robedal on Aug 2, 2007 7:37 AM   
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Years ago Consumer Reports noted that there was a U.S. town called "Alaska Springs" (nowhere near Alaska), and that a company was selling the town water under the name "Alaska Springs" complete with a photo of a glacier.

Here are the lead paragraphs from a recent story in the Globe and Mail

(I would have included the web address, but the Alternet software won't let me.)

From Wednesday's Globe and Mail
August 1, 2007 at 1:01 PM EDT
The chemical industry has long insisted that bisphenol A levels in people are so low as to not be a concern. But a new assessment has found the estrogen-like chemical used to make plastic is present in humans at levels similar to those shown to be harmful in animal experiments.

The assessment, appearing in the current edition of the journal Reproductive Toxicology, is likely to raise further health concerns about the controversial chemical. Although bisphenol A has been known for decades to act like a hormone, companies have been using it to make everything from polycarbonate plastic baby bottles and office water jugs to dental sealants and the resin linings on the insides of most tin cans.

Interestingly :-) there is no mention of his important story in the so-called "quality" U.S. newspapers like the New York Times or Washington Post

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wrd
Posted by: wrd on Aug 2, 2007 7:56 AM   
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Not all of can afford $1200 for a water filter. Or even $50.
There's an old sociology book called "The Poor Pay More" about how the indigent end up paying more in the long run
for items because they can't enough money at one time to take advantage of discounts that the middle class take for granted. So they "nickel and dime themselves to death."You can see the carcinogenic crud floating in the water from my pipes. No way will I drink that poison. I even once got a warning letter from the City of Richmond about the hazard. This is a poverty issue.

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» RE: No true Posted by: Brucewxx
Boycott Pepsi
Posted by: dover23 on Aug 2, 2007 8:02 AM   
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At least their bottled tap water is relatively healthy.

Everything else is garbage! Who buys this crap? High fructose corn syrup is nasty!

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Not quite as Simple
Posted by: elderwoman.org on Aug 2, 2007 8:16 AM   
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I choose to drink tap water also. But I just want to point out that the issue isn't quite as black and white as 'tap water=good' vs 'bottled water=bad'. Purifying tap water inevitably involves adding chemicals like chlorine. And then there's fluoride.
A vast majority of US cities fluoridate their water. I know this is a controversial issue but since fluoride is a neat way for companies producing fertilizer to make a profit on their by-products there are obviously some strong vested interests in favor of it. Ordinary, countertop, charcoal-based filters don't remove fluoride.
Where I live, there's no fluorodation but since reverse osmosis and distillation do remove fluoride I often feel tempted to drink bottled water when I travel to fluoridated areas, even when I know it originates as tap water. However, the leaching of chemicals from the plastic bothers me. So does the problem of more plastic in the landfill. And now that the smaller companies have all been bought out, I cannot risk accidentally supporting Nestle or Coca Cola. So I drink tap water (filtered if possible) and put up with the fluoride.
I am not even certain that all tap water is as clean and pure and wholesome as this article maintains. When I lived in San Francisco I remember the water authority themselves advising people with compromised immune systems not to drink water straight from the tap because of high cryptosporidium counts. That problem may be fixed by now. But chlorine isn't particularly good to ingest and I don't believe that fluorines (usually sodium hexafluorosilicate and hexafluorosilicic acid) are either. In those days, my solution was to buy Black Mountain water as the huge jugs are recycled over and over and are made of a hard plastic that is purported not to leach. But of course that solution created some added pollution since the water had to be delivered by truck every couple of weeks.
So, as with most other 'green' issues it is all about weighing up the options, making trade-offs etc. My choice at the moment is for tap water since I would rather trust my body to deal with a few doses of chemicals than add to the problem of plastics and the profits of Coca Cola & co. But there may well be situations, like the San Francisco one, where my choice would be different.

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Evian is "Naive" spelled backwards
Posted by: fanny666 on Aug 2, 2007 8:21 AM   
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The real scandal is what these corporations are doing to water sources in the third world. Not everything should be for profit!

Coke Facts

Vandana Shiva, water activist in India

Nestle and water, and more sources.

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» KillerCoke.org not .com Posted by: fanny666
an RO machine.....
Posted by: eosrk on Aug 2, 2007 8:22 AM   
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...can make almost any kind of water taste like spring water, but they forget to add in the minerals.

We have well water, and I love it, and we get it tested for radon often, and it's still safer than city water.....and we get it for free.

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Weird
Posted by: mercianomad on Aug 2, 2007 8:38 AM   
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I thought this was common knowledge. I've known about Aquafina for years. I guess the news is that they've been publicly made to admit it. Carry on.

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» RE: Weird Posted by: cacky
Waterman
Posted by: happybear on Aug 2, 2007 8:42 AM   
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It is a shame that an uninformed neophyte named Gigi Killette is treated as a expert, then spews out disinformation such as she does in this article. Many of her comments are incorrect, some are False, and others are apparently deliberately misleading. Let me elaborate.
1. She starts off by saying that "Pepsi's (water) come(s) from our public water systems." That is said as though it is a problem with disclosure. The fact is that the source of the water, before processing, is irrelevant. The product that is sold is what is used, and that product is , in fact, purer (fewer contaminates), and free of poisons such as lead, chlorine, and other metals (commonly known as minerals) like calcium, magnesium, and sodium.
2. In response to the question about distilled water compared to tap water, she really shows her ignorance, or is purposely lying in order to decieve her audience. Tap water, in virtually all municipal suppliers, has chlorine added to control bacteria and viruses. Chlorine is a poison, and adds nothing to improve the water in any beneficial way. Another poison added to many municipal systems is Fluoride, which can cause severe and irreversible damage to teeth. She then says that municipal systems are extremely well controlled, and she is right. They have to be. They add these poisons, and must control them precisely or make the population very sick. Remember, if the bottled water is from a municipal source, the same strict controls apply to the water in the bottle as to the tap water. The argument, therefore, is moot.
3. The further processing to come to the finished product just improve the quality of the water. To say that the water is "better" is strictly a subjective statement. The same is true about "safer". Tap water, I agree, is usually just as safe as any bottled water. But it is either a mistake or a deliberate lie to say that treated water is not "cleaner" than any tap water. The very act of the filters removes certain contaminates, and that is "cleaner" by definition.
4. The "taste test" privided in the article shows a lack of knowledge in water product, as well. Poland Spring water is very diferent than Aquafina, and less diferent than tap water or Dasani. Aquafina and Dasani are first purified, and virtually all the contaminates are removed. Dasani adds some of tose minerals back into the water, to try to mimic the taste of "tap" water. Poland Springs is not purified, simply disinfected, and the mineral content is controlled. This makes the Poland Spring and Dasani very much like tap water in laboratory tests, ony with better disinfection controls. Remember, that when a municipality has a problem with their processing plant, and the water is bacterially contaminated, one of the options that is always suggested is boil the water, or drink bottled water. This was very obvious in Milwaukee, WI during the 1990's.
Michael Blanding is even more devious in his discussion.
Additional false statements are so bad that it is hard to imagine that he is not deliberately lying. His first comments about Ozone use is an example. Ozone is an excellent Oxodant, similar in action to chlorine, or hydrogen peroxide. But the by-products of chlorine are manifest, while Ozone leaves only oxygen as a direct result of the use. But Blanding claims that a by-product of Ozone is Bromate, which can be dangerous.
1. He doesn't say that ANY oxidant, combined with bromide, creates bromate. That includes Cholrine. And chlorine has been called a poison. Mr. Blanding is deliberately omitting anything that might not be negative toward bottled water. As well, he doesn't say that many processing systems remove bromide, and then add ozone. It would be too close to the truth, and Mr Blanding needs to avoid that.

I am sorry that this has continued so long, but these persons need to be corrected in their mistatements and outright lies.

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» RE: the poor still pay more Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» RE: A couple more suggestions. Posted by: sphoenix
» Ah'hem.... Posted by: sausage
» the shill klaxon is sounding! Posted by: crazyquilt
I wonder if the Dole Pineapple Company...
Posted by: Habaro on Aug 2, 2007 8:44 AM   
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...will ever admit that their pineapple juice comes from the same tap as that pineapple juice drinking fountain they have in the lobby right before you take the factory tour. Bastards.

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old news?? why now??
Posted by: tlwalkerphd on Aug 2, 2007 9:57 AM   
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I've really been wondering why this is suddenly a major story again on all mainstream and non-commercial news sources. I remember years ago (in the early days of bottled water) this "secret" was exposed - to a similar public outcry. Even then the reply from the major powers that be was that the key word was already on the label as "drinking" water (as opposed to spring, etc.). Just curious about the timing of this new [re]discovery.

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Consumer beware
Posted by: pzzp on Aug 2, 2007 9:57 AM   
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One of the oldest tricks in the profiteer's books is to take something common and dress it up to appeal to base human attributes. The power of human stupidity indeed is boundless, and so it continues to be exploited. Just ask PT Barnum about the "egress".

Psychologists will tell you about the "dynamic" of a relationship. Both the uninformed consumer and the profit-hungry merchant are at fault.

As they say: build it, and they will come, so the uninformed flock to the marketer's bullshit. Never mind water, why else would people drink caramelized sugar water? I've seen it written that one can contains the equivalent 10 teaspoons of sugar. Would I eat 10 teaspoons of sugar? Don't think so.

Whereas there may be a very few legitimate reasons for bottled water use in particular circumstances, most of the time municipal water should do.

Get educated, get smart, be skeptical, do your research. The mass marketing of bottled water was prima facie ridiculous. It just re-inforces my notion of human gullibility that here we are , how many years on? and there is still discussion.

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Small victory, but I'll take it.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 2, 2007 10:19 AM   
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Nothing like a little honesty to brighten the day; it's nice that Pepsi is being forthcoming about the source of their product. I fear, however, that foolish people will still find creative ways to convince themselves to waste money.

Meh. That's the cynic in me talking, and it's their money to blow, anyway. It's not like they don't have good healthcare or are asking the government to provide it for them, right?

It's also possible that as our cheap gas edges ever close to the price of a bottle of tap water from the soft drink industry, people will wise up.

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Las Vegas Tap Water
Posted by: pahrumphomes on Aug 2, 2007 10:21 AM   
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Obviously none of you have tasted Las Vegas tap water. Yuck! It is the nastiest tasting water ever! You might as well eat dirt. Thank God we have bottled water here in the desert because desert tap water isn't fit for man nor beast! We use our well water for everything but drinking - don't need my pipes corroded with whatever it is that comes out of the tap - well water or city water! I'll pay for the filtered stuff and drink more water! Even the hospitals have water purification systems for patients' drinking water - not just tap water!

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» RE: Las Vegas Tap Water Posted by: IAlady
» RE: Las Vegas Tap Water Posted by: babs
» BTW... Posted by: sausage
» I was there Posted by: bookie
Just my two cents worth...
Posted by: sausage on Aug 2, 2007 11:34 AM   
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...But I always thought that anybody who paid a buck and a half for a bottle of water is a friggin' moron.

Please, those of you who purchase bottled water don't take this personally. This is just my opinion and we all know about opinions.

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Cheap Journalism
Posted by: leip on Aug 2, 2007 12:27 PM   
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This whole story is pretty bad. The headline itself implies that Pepsi was caught in some dark dirty secret, like they were trying to pull some fast one, and deceive the populous. I'm looking at the label to a bottle of Aquafina, and it is very clear. The information at www.aquafina.com is very clear. They state they use public water sources and give a detailed explanation of all the purification processes they use to give customers pure water.

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» Speaking of ignorance Posted by: YogiBear
I'm with the poster from Vegas, above....
Posted by: Mewsician on Aug 2, 2007 12:39 PM   
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....I, too, live in a desert region, in southern California, and the tap water here tastes like garbage. When I go home to Illinois, where I'm from, I drink tap water because it tastes fine. But out here in SoCal, at the "bottom of the hill" (meaning the aqueduct flow), I have to buy bottled water because the stuff in the tap tastes like old metal. I don't buy water to be trendy, believe me, and I was surprised that Goodman's interview/article didn't address this very real aspect of the situation in the bottled-water-buying public.

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Pepsi's CEO oughta get life at hard labor, no parole!
Posted by: Pat Kittle on Aug 2, 2007 12:52 PM   
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These scumbags know they can get away with anything.

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A problem I see...
Posted by: chaoslegs on Aug 2, 2007 12:49 PM   
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...is that when my parents moved from Minneapolis to the suburb of New Brighton, that the New Brighton water was crappy compared to Minneapolis.

I use the Minneapolis tap water religiously. Bottled water is only for convenience if travelling and I need small containers for me. One of these days, I will get nice re-fillable containers and drop them altogheter.

Minneapolis tap water, we have the most efficient (or was it advanced) water filteration system in North America.

Now back to figuring out bridge engineering :(

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» Like Hell You Were. Posted by: grumble-bum
Everyone missing a major point here?
Posted by: wisewebwoman on Aug 2, 2007 1:24 PM   
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Well no surprise with bottled water disclosure, I've been telling everyone for years, generally fairly public knowledge. And here on Alternet, apart from a few hands in their pockets corporate shills, I would imagine this particular article is preaching to the choir.
However, according to many sources I've read, the next big serious invasion (how can we call them wars?) will be for water.
We are running very very low, folks, enough for a looming crisis. Some aquifers have disappeared entirely.
And what was that again about GW Bush and his daughters buying the land over the biggest aquifer in the world in Peru?

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Crap from the right...or the left...is still crap. IN DEFENSE OF DANSANI (AND AQUA FINA)
Posted by: larengo on Aug 2, 2007 2:07 PM   
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L.A. water smells like bleach and burns your eyes when it gets hot and steamy when washing dishes or showering. It has a lower pH (relative acid/base measurement where above 7 is considered base and below it is acidic) than any metropolitan water supply in America.
The water companies are always finding more heavy metals (like lead) and toxic chemicals (like arsenic) than they or the people in and around L.A. would like. It's tested and monitored and checked...like the public schools are...but, like the schools, rarely meet any kind of reasonable standard of quality. Neither system, allegedly, will kill you...but that's setting the bar about as low as it goes.
There are many many people who have no alternative to either the water or the schools, and have to use them. Those who are monied or motivated enough to find alternatives to the toxicity of those public systems, take them. Why do my brothers and sisters on the left condemn those acts of self preservation instead of condemning the toxic systems that make alternatives essential.
NASA has found a way to recycle astronauts' urine to make it fresh and clear as spring water. It costs a hell of a lot...but there's not a lot of choice. I've tasted L.A. and other similar city water and while it's not exactly urine, it's also not nearly as 'potable' as the Dansani I choose to drink. (please note: we recyle ALL our plastic bottles)
The propaganda writer who wrote the initial scare article didn't mention...nor did anyone in the organizations that have seized on this issue...that the 'leeching' of these bad plastic by-products also must happen in ALL things contained in plastic; not just water. Why are we being so protected from fear of ALL those things we drink and use?
I think, once again, we're being jerked around by use of fear (just like this administration's tactic everyone loves so much) and not being given a full and fair chance at the truth of this 'issue'.
I don't live in Oregon where the tap water is truly wonderful, and don't have my own well..like some others in this forum. I don't live in my own home where I might be able to afford a very expensive filtration system. I'm in the Los Angeles area water system and want to be able to feed my need for water without all the distorted science using the politics of fear to make that need as anxiety provoking as possible. I like Dansani water...and Aqua Fina too. THEY DON'T SAY THEY COME FROM ANY SPRING OR WELL...THEY ONLY SAY THAT THEY ARE 'PURIFIED'. If that 'author' or anyone else wants to challenge the reverse osmosis process' ability to achieve a higher standard of purity than city water, let them do that....with backup data. On the face of it, such an assertion is just plain dumb.
The Bush administration has systematically destroyed every environmental, health and consumer protection agency in the government. But still we're told, "Tap water...is monitored regularly by government agencies and bottled water is not" as if that should seal the argument. Since when do we use the EPA or FDA or other corrupt acronym as the arbiters of truth? Gotta have it one way or the other...seems to me.
I'm not at all reasured by the words of those same agencies that tell us that increased levels of arsenic are 'not harmful', that the heavy metals in city drinking water 'are less than last year'...or that 'global warming is scientifically controversial".
Sorry for the lengthy rant...but I find so many disturbing distortions in this newest guilt/fear campaign I was compelled. I promise never to smoke, even on the street or in my acid shower, or ever eat a 'Fatburger' in front of a child...if these damn agitators-with-their-cause will just leave me and my Dansani alone.

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» Milwaukee Bridges were inspected also... Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
Oh my GAWD
Posted by: helenwheels on Aug 2, 2007 2:36 PM   
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Bottling our tap water & selling it back to us. A new low. I honestly thought I was through being surprised by the utter greed of corporations, but this takes the cake. Well, I won't be buying any pepsi products ever again. I try not to support any of these crap-makers anyway so it's not much of a reach.

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Please Do NOT Stop Drinking Bottled Water!
Posted by: larrybeo on Aug 2, 2007 2:48 PM   
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Oh My people it doesn't matter where you live nor the level of filtration you will all die of cancer or kidney failure from parabens if you drink water that starts as municipal water! Brita filters remove minerals and impurities from water, NOT CHEMICALS! Research this online if you do not believe. Please drink Bottle Natural Spring water - we need minds like those that read alternet around for years to come!

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Spending ourselves to death
Posted by: SteveInNZ on Aug 2, 2007 3:21 PM   
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Well are you really shocked that the stuff in that bottle was just water? It does have a nice name though - kinda foreign, but fancy sounding. Pepsi's other great alternatives are to take that same water and mix it with high-fructose corn sweetener or some artificial sweetener. Interestingly, both contribute equally to the record obesity in the country. You might be better off paying 7000 times too much for the water, rather than gulping down all that sugar.

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