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Government Food Safety System a Sham

By Jason Mark, AlterNet. Posted January 25, 2007.


A new federal program for livestock tracking will benefit big corporations, threaten small producers and do nothing to protect consumer health.
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Located south of the tiny town of Tarpley, Texas, Debbie Davis's Seco Valley Ranch is something of a model farm. On her 1,800-acre spread, Davis grazes 225 longhorn cattle, every one of which she closely monitors so that she can better manage the herd and its health. Davis' meat is prized in the supermarkets of Austin and San Antonio, where her grass-fed, pastured beef sells for a premium. In many ways, Davis is the very ideal of a local entrepreneur -- profitable and secure, succeeding on her own terms.

Which is why it angers Davis so much when she considers the government's plans to institute a "National Animal Identification System" that will give a 15-digit tracking number to every cow, chicken, pig, turkey, goat, sheep and horse in the United States to trace animals' every move from birth until slaughter. The federal government and large meat producers are promoting the ID system -- usually referred to by its acronym, "NAIS" -- as a way to better control animal disease outbreaks. But the plan has small and organic ranchers in an uproar. They complain that the animal tracking system will place an undue burden on their operations, giving the biggest meat producers additional economic advantages in an already highly consolidated industry.

"It really does feel like Big Brother," rancher Davis said in a recent interview. "The proposal is that I report every animal I have, every time an animal is born, every time an animal dies, and every time I move an animal from my property. ... There's a lot of expense for everyone. The ones who are going to get impacted are the little guys."

If you're a typical American consumer -- for whom meat usually means supermarket "pink in plastic wrap," not animals out on the range -- then why should you care? Because, say critics of the government's plan, the national livestock tracking system will do nothing to actually prevent animal sicknesses such as mad cow disease or avian flu. According to smaller farmers and sustainable agriculture advocates, the complicated and expensive government proposal is mostly a marketing gimmick. They say the program is simply a way for the largest food corporations to sell more products overseas without addressing some of the key weaknesses in the U.S. food system.

Since the first confirmed case of mad cow disease in 2003, U.S. beef producers have struggled to sell their products abroad. Pork producers fear that a similar market closure could one day hit them if there were an outbreak of, say, swine fever or hoof and mouth disease. The creation of an animal tracking ID system is largely intended, then, to give foreign importers some piece of mind by establishing a way to quickly trace back diseased animals to their source and quarantine that specific herd, while letting the rest of the industry go about business as usual. But the program conspicuously does nothing to address the root causes of livestock disease -- improper diet and a confinement system that encourages epidemics. Instead, say small producers, the proposed plan will simply drop unnecessary costs onto those farmers who are already using best practices.

"I believe big business is behind it," Davis said. "It's a way for the giant, monopoly beef industry to export more meat. The whole thing about tracking disease is a bunch of BS to brainwash the general public."

Essentially, taxpayers, ordinary meat-consumers and ranchers are poised to spend tens of millions of dollars on a scheme that will improve the bottom line of the meat packing corporations without improving the health of the animals from which they profit.

To date, much of the controversy surrounding the national animal tracking system has hinged on whether the program will be mandatory or voluntary for farmers. At first, the U.S. Department of Agriculture said that the program would be compulsory for all livestock. A year ago the USDA announced that it wanted all farmers and ranchers to register their premises. The next step was to implant radio tracking devices in all cattle and to assign tracking numbers to groups of hogs and chickens, which are usually raised by lot. By 2009, according to the plan, all livestock in the United States would be tagged, and a tracking database would be in place.

Then farmers and ranchers pushed back. They complained that the system was too complicated, too costly, and, essentially, unnecessary. Websites and email listserves opposing the ID system proliferated. Protest letters flooded the USDA offices. In Acres USA -- one of the most influential newsletters for the organic farming community -- one Texas rancher wrote: "It appears that the ... unstated reason behind [the program] is to get rid of those independent farmers, ranchers and homesteaders."

Confronted with this grassroots opposition, the USDA backpedaled. The agency now says that the animal tracking program will be voluntary.

"People can decide whether they want to participate and whether it fits their needs," Ben Kaczmarski, a spokesman for the USDA, told AlterNet. "We have decided to make the system voluntary at the federal level because of responses we were getting from producers and farmers."

Many farmers, however, remain worried. They point out that three states -- Michigan, Wisconsin and Indiana -- are mandating some or all elements of the animal tracking system; a fourth, Texas, is on the verge of making similar legal requirements. Farmers opposed to the program say that the USDA is quietly -- but firmly -- urging states to make the plan mandatory by dangling extra federal funding as an incentive.

"The USDA is trying to get states to make it mandatory at the state level," Walter Jeffries, a Vermont hog farmer who is a leading anti-NAIS activist, wrote in a recent email. "Thus it is still aimed to be mandatory. Not good. ... NAIS is fundamentally designed to favor the large producers and burden the small producers. This is probably primarily by accident, but the effect will kill small producers and homesteaders off. Our country will lose the ability to produce food other than in the large factory farms."

Missouri farmer Doreen Hannes agrees. She says that while large producers can use their economies of scale to absorb the new regulations, the extra time demanded by the tracking will be unworkable for small farmers. She also worries that the cost of ID tags -- at least $3 per unit -- and scanners to read the tags will be prohibitively expensive for smaller operations.

"It's just going to add overhead, and add overhead, and add paperwork," Hannes said. "It will be like doing your taxes every week. They [small ranchers] aren't going to put up with this. They will just get out."

The result, Hannes says, will be more concentration in an industry already dominated by giant agribusiness corporations. For example, just four companies control 83 percent of the beef packing industry and 64 percent of the pork packing business, according to a William Heffernan, a researcher at the University of Missouri.

"If you eat, you need to be concerned about this program," Hannes said. "NAIS will bring about absolute consolidation of our meat supply. And these big corporations are pushing for it."

Indeed. The National Beef Cattlemen's Association and the National Pork Producers Council have been among the primary drivers of an animal tracking system. They say a livestock ID database is necessary to maintain access to profitable international markets that doubt the safety of the U.S. meat supply. The loss of several overseas markets after an outbreak of Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE), or mad cow disease, in 2003 still looms over the U.S. meat industry. When it comes to small farmers' complaints that the NAIS is all about maintaining a globalized food system that prioritizes exports over local food production, industry representatives and government officials essentially agree.

"Our trading partners will feel more confident if we have a system of rapid trace back, then we can keep our markets open," Dave Warner, a spokesman for the National Pork Producers Council, said. "You've seen what happened with the cattle industry with BSE. That happened in one cow, and Japan and South Korea closed their markets. It took them forever to deal with that."

U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns has been even more explicit about how the program is driven by international trade concerns. "You don't ever want to put this massive economic system at risk," he told a gathering of meat industry executives in a speech last August. "I've been asked why we've been putting so much effort into the animal ID system. At its core, the system is a critical tool in safeguarding the health of agricultural animals from disease. When it comes to an outbreak, time is money."

But opponents of the plan point out that the tracking system does nothing to prevent animal disease. Rather, it's about controlling disease outbreaks after they've already occurred -- identifying and quarantining certain areas, while keeping the rest of the meat industry running. The tracking system, then, is a way for meat corporations to sell more beef, pork and chicken abroad, without really addressing the root causes of animal disease -- confinement, massive overcrowding, improper feeding, and poor care.

"ID systems only solve sort of the marketing problem," Bob Scowcroft, executive director of the Organic Farming Research Foundation said. "An ID system does not address the causes. What are the fundamental issues we need to address to solve the disease problems? They are feed, confinement, overuse of antibiotics."

As farmer and agrarian essayist Wendell Berry has said: In trying to solve one problem, the industrial food system often creates another. In this case, building a complex and costly system that will only add to farmers' burdens.

So what would be a simpler solution? Veterinarians agree that the best way to avoid animal diseases is to raise animals in ways that mimic their natural predilections -- give them fresh air and sunlight, plenty of space to roam, and food sources (like grass instead of corn, in the case of cattle) that the animals evolved to eat. That is, adopt the kinds of practices currently used by precisely those farmers who say they will be hurt most by the NAIS.

Consumers can help out by supporting local farmers and ranchers. When you go to the farmers market or locally owned butcher and buy meat raised by someone like Walter Jeffries or Doreen Hannes, you are helping promote a food system that is less prone to disease and disruption, and therefore more sustainable and secure. Not only does that allow shoppers to get closer to their farmers, but also to the animal they are about to eat.

"This can be market driven by the consumer," Texas rancher Debbie Davis said. "The consumer, by how he spends his dollars, can dictate that confined animal feeding practices are not sound. If you want to buy free range chicken and pay a dollar more a pound, you are voting with your dollars that this is a more sustainable way of agriculture, instead of putting a chicken in a cage."

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Jason Mark co-manages San Francisco's Alemany Farm. He is the co-author, with Kevin Danaher, of "Insurrection: Citizen Challenges to Corporate Power." He is researching a book about the future of food.

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Greed Inc.
Posted by: feduphoosier on Jan 25, 2007 3:53 AM   
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For those of us who buy from local farmers, this is also a disaster. What effects them, effects us (mandatory in Indiana? Gosh, that must be our beloved 'corporate pawn' Governor Mitch at work again.)

I buy locally because it helps our local farmers, cuts my carbon footprint... and I can finally find out what is in my food. I have 'suddenly' developed a myriad of food allergies - and of course its not in corporate interest for me to know what is poisoning me. The government is lifting consumer protections right and left, all in the interest of helping their corporate buddies make larger profits at our expense. Labeling? Please.

Imagine... the government promoting Big Business. What a shock. So now they are going after the independent farmers, again. I still won't play. I'll stop eating meat before I'll ever play. Perhaps if everyone were to buy locally, en mass, we'd stop these bullies in their tracks.

Unfortunately, most people have no idea what they're eating, where it comes from, or what kind of corporate games are going on in the shadows. I'd like to think they would care if they really knew the score.

Would that everyone would wake up and see the threat these Mega-Corps with their Mega-Lobbys pose to our Democracy, our food, our healthcare and our livelihoods.

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» RE: Greed Inc. Posted by: mkeeling@jam.rr.com
We will know where every cow is but not every handgun
Posted by: edsmith on Jan 25, 2007 5:45 AM   
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The statistical probablility of a mad cow outbreak is probably a lot less than a muder or accidental killing with a handgun. Yet, we don't put serial umbers on guns or track their sales and movement. Just think, if a farmer refuses to report the movement of a hog and it walks into a 7-11 to rob it and mrders the clerk we won't have any idea where that hog came from or who owns it.

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» Guns are registered Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» Guntrade is unregulated Posted by: edsmith
» RE: Guntrade is unregulated Posted by: albrechtkrausse
I have a solution...
Posted by: jmjost on Jan 25, 2007 6:22 AM   
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We could just get rid of that sick habit we have of eating meat. Tell me, beefeaters, if you had to slaughter and dismember and quarter that cow yourselves, would you still have that steak?

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» RE: I have a solution... Posted by: Henwhisperer
» Only if I ran out... Posted by: ABetterFuture
» RE: I have a solution... Posted by: aebartle
» Denial Is Not A "Solution" Posted by: grumble-bum
» I'd be more inclined Posted by: WhatNow?
» RE: I have a solution... Posted by: pdqbach55
» RE: I have a solution... Posted by: jmjost
» RE: I have a solution... Posted by: Little Bit Farm
This maybe true about tracking disease, but is that all its about?
Posted by: Prophit on Jan 25, 2007 7:00 AM   
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If you are worried about a rebellious population who will decide to drop out of the system and become self sufficient than as a gov you lose control over that person..... so... how do you gain that control back?

You control the food and water of every single American and since rural was the big worry, that takes careof that. If you know every single animal out there you also know the people who own them and its just another data base to track and monitor those who are going self sufficient.

There is also a proposal to track and register and tax all wells in the US, so combined with food tracking this gov would have total control over the basic essentials of life for every human in this country. To me, that is the primary reason this is being done and it needs to be overturned by this congress now!

Is there a bill on the floor yet overturning this requirement?

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Netanya
Posted by: Netanya3 on Jan 25, 2007 7:08 AM   
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The giant intensive animal production enterprises (Giant Factory Farming Corporations), in their greed for profits, desire to put all family farms out of business. Henceforth, their goal is to sweep all animals from the landscape and imprison them in filthy, unnatural and abusive miles and miles of cages/crates/cells in which the animals suffer from birth until brutal slaughter. Agribusiness is so powerful that it funds our representatives campaigns, sways the laws in their favor, and largely employs (and abuses) at low wages illegal immigrants to carry out the dirty, inhumane methods of producing meat for American consumers. If consumers do not wake up to the immoral conditions in which we allow cruel and unnecessary torture to animals "just for a peice of antibiotic and steroid-laced, quickly produced meat" for our plates. Our descendants will have to visit a zoo in order to see a real "farm animal." No parent could dare take children to see the hideous mistreatment of the untold millions of animals confined in factory farm enterprises. To learn the truth, go to Internet Sites for: Humane Farming Association, Humane Society of US, PETA, or any of the animal welfare organizations.

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Absolutely! This is a States' Rights issue.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jan 25, 2007 7:19 AM   
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Repealing the Interstate Commerce Act, and then reducing the size and scope of the FDA and USDA would be a great way to start shifting the burden of livestock health from vast government agencies closer to the people that are most affected.

Davis' meat is prized in the supermarkets of Austin and San Antonio, where her grass-fed, pastured beef sells for a premium.

Always, it is the entrepreneur such as Davis, who has managed to locate and exploit a niche market for her designer goods, that suffers when you throw one-size-fits-all government in the mix.

I could not agree more with the premise of the article: that over-regulation, to include RFID/NAIS incorporation in nearly all farm animals in the country, is a ridiculous abuse of the policing power of the Federal Government. Tagging these animals would, as the author points out, do nothing to address the problems (and fake problems) of BSE (which--if you're worried about, you can stop now) or avian influenza.

The power to regulate agriculture belongs to the States, whose legislators are more closely in tune with the people they represent. Giving this authority to Uncle Sam results in inefficiency and abuse; the author has pointed out a very good example in this piece.

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He Who Controls the Food Supply, Controls the Nation
Posted by: djnoll on Jan 25, 2007 8:07 AM   
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The NAIS program first came to my attention in the magazine Countryside (www.countrysidemagazine.com) and they have been following its growth for sometime now. There are several aspects of this program that this article does not mention clearly:

(1) all the databases are going to be held in a private corporation which can be accessed for a fee not just by the government, but by anyone. In other words, large corporations will be able to target smaller operations because they will know their business literally from the inside.

(2) the USDA will tell you that this is just a draft program, and that is true. It has never been presented to Congress for approval, which must be done for funding and authorization, and therefore, it is not enforceable whether mandatory or not. They are using the states to do what they knew before that Congress, whether Republican or Democrat would not. Too many Congressmen and women have agricultural elements within their constituencies to approve this.

(3) this kind of program was one of the first ones instituted in 1930's Germany by the Nazis as a way of identifying the necessary food resources of Germany. They used it to seize Jewish and dissident farms and as the war progressed they would use the data to seize food supplies for the army and slaughter what was left to stop the enemy from getting any, regardless of whether a family needed it to survive.

Not only is our food supply unhealthy and likely to become more so in the future, but we have a government that is using blind-side tactics to force states and independent food producers into compliance or extinction. Every citizen in this country needs to stand up now and say ENOUGH to the like of Nancy Pelosi and demand the end of this Nazi regime before it is no longer possible. This program does not end unhealthy farming practices, it promotes them and ends any semblance of free market economy in the agricultural industry.

It is just another step in the facist takeover of this nation, and unless we stop talking and start acting soon, it will be the end of America as we know it!

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Government GPS to Track Exactly Where on the Range Farmer's Homes Are
Posted by: particle61 on Jan 25, 2007 9:15 AM   
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see story...at redstateupdate.net
www.redstateupdate.net/full-page/fullpage-archive-27.html

www.redstateupdate.net
funny, frightening, free

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Feedlots and factory farming of meat - how nasty can you get?
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jan 25, 2007 9:25 AM   
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Just a note to any of those 'international consumers' who may be reading this - don't be fooled. Eating US animal products is one of the stupidest choices you'll ever make. Take a good look:

Boss Hog: America's top pork producer churns out a sea of waste that has destroyed rivers, killed millions of fish and generated one of the largest fines in EPA history. Welcome to the dark side of the other white meat.

The non-organic milk and cheese supply is produced from cows injected with Monsanto's rGBH hormone - this results in udder infections (bacterial pus in your milk - ugh!) as well as in high level of hormones that seem to promote prostate and breast cancer; the cows are also injected with antibiotics as a result - resulting in a toxic brew in the milk. You might want to go for the straight espresso in favor of that latte, yuppies...

For the compete rundown on factory farming in the US, take a look at http://www.factoryfarming.com/

Bottom line: don't buy it!

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dick
Posted by: rtmyth on Jan 25, 2007 9:27 AM   
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All meats , fruit, and vegetables can be detoxified with radiation, which has been approved for use here, and used for many years in Scandanavian countries.

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» RE: dick Posted by: henderson
» RE: dick Posted by: hennep
Europe has been doing it for decades
Posted by: hennep on Jan 25, 2007 9:44 AM   
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As a former UK livestock farmer such tracking of sheep and cattle has been around since before i could remember, decades before BSE (mad cows). If farmers keep comprehensive records (usually pedigree herds) its only an aditional task that can be incorporated, and it has shown that sources and pathways of infection can be found quickly, often closing not just a localised area but complete regions due to the way livestsock get moved around the country these days.
RF tagging is a quick easy way to do it, hence the interest of the feedlot producers, but that will not improve US livestock exports and here's why.
America uses hormone growth promoters, you use BST to increase milk production both are banned in the EU, on sound scientific prinicples, the Agri industry in America is not intrested in real welfare of livestock, just making money using what ever cheap unethical method they can employ. Europe does not want your corporate livestock producers welfare and health standards and until routine drug use to promote growth and feedlot factories are gone the EU as will many other countries will not import your second rate goods.
There are many small producers out there who have been driven to use feedlot practices to stay on the land to make a living, i know it troubles them but they have no option, small producer co-ops to market their ethically produced meat (as different to organic) and inform the publc about why its better are needed, but that takes time and cash they don't have.
Animal tracking should be carried out (thats why branding is used) but not for the reasons your goverment proposes as they are straw men arguments, in the larger market place we have today a farmer cannot always know and trust his suppliers as they are no long his neighbour, and as a ex-farmer i know i always wanted to know who i bought from and who i sold too as i actually, like most livestock farmers (small scale) care about ethics in farming, agri industrial feedlot corporations DO NOT.

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continued....
Posted by: hennep on Jan 25, 2007 9:52 AM   
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people like Davis already track thier animals, know their suppliers and their ethics, its a cost argument they have against the plan. Records held by private companies also are a strong reason to opose it, its a health issue and should be run by the Department of Agriculture on a non profit basis (subsidised by gov is better still), they should also be confidential, the current proposal seems to be handing corporate america a tool to further destroy the family farm.

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Thank you
Posted by: Ricki on Jan 25, 2007 9:56 AM   
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For posting this article. Our small farm may not survive if NAIS passes.

If NAIS passes, our 4th amendments rights (among other constitutional rights) to unreasonable search and seizure will be violated, USDA will be able to come onto our farms at the slightest pretext and kill off our livestock. Look into their documents, they say that in case of disease outbreaks they will kill everything in a 10 mile radius.

If the government can violate farmer's constitutional rights at their whim, guess who's next, that's right everyone else, meaning YOU TOO.

They have already destroyed people's livestock for no reason, other than at bureauctatic whim (do a search on the Fallaice sheep incident and on the Henshaw hog incident).

USDA cares only to protect the profit, viability and monopoly of sickness producing factory farms.

Tracking animals does NOTHING to prevent disease.

USDA has resisted testing at slaughter facilities because they know that animals from factory farm conditions are not healthy. USDA is suing a farmer out in CA who was having his beef tested at the slaughterhouse so he could sell it as guaranteed BSE free.

TELL YOUR STATE AND FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES NO NAIS!

USDA CARES NOTHING ABOUT ENSURING THE SAFETY OF YOUR FOOD. BUY LOCAL, SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL HUMANE SUSTAINABLE FARMER.

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What will it take?
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Jan 25, 2007 10:04 AM   
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What will it take to make Americans to wake up to the obvious fact that the corporate establishment has taken over our government? What will it take for people to realize the obvious fact that corporate goals are almost always opposite to the public interest? Our military who're supposed to defend our borders are sent overseas to die protecting corporate markets. Every job, now done by Americans, that can be done overseas will be done overseas. How wide does the gap between the rich and the poor have to become for the people to grasp the obvious fact that the future of American labor will be low paying jobs serving the ultra-rich?

What must be done to convince the American working class of the obvious fact that we are the powerful, sleeping majority? The corporate Delilah woos us in the day but like Samson, we will be bound and sold into slavery while we sleep. How far will the Democrats have to sell out to the corporatocracy before people awaken to the obvious fact that we the people must take control of both political parties?
Bob Reichenbach,
Director, The Lincoln Initiative.

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Yet another bushie scam
Posted by: willymack on Jan 25, 2007 10:28 AM   
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It's time to lay it on the line and tell bushco that the free ride is over, and "business as usual" will consist of actions that further the best interests of our PEOPLE vs. the cleptocracy that's been eating us alive. Big business won't lift a finger to do anything that may lower its enormus profits, regardless of how much the public depends on their good will and honesty, which they're completely lacking in. They'd rather bribe politicians to legislate in their favor. The time has come for this to end, PERMANENTLY. Our new Congress would be seriously remiss in not defeating the daily ripoffs at the hands of criminals in three thousand dollar suits.

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The sickness of the meat industry
Posted by: CyberBrook on Jan 25, 2007 10:45 AM   
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The sickness of the meat industry isn't news to those familiar with Fast Food Nation (book and film), Boss Hog (article in Rolling Stone), stories about poultry farms (on Grist.org, for example), www.factoryfarming.org, and many other sources which illustrate the horrors of meat production.

If we eliminate or sharply reduce meat production and consumption, we reduce global warming and other eco-bads, we reduce cruelty to workers and animals, we reduce health problems such as heart disease, cancer, stroke, diabetes, etc., and we reduce the power of (mostly) right-wing mega-corporations.

Sounds like a good deal to me.

For more info, visit

Eco-Eating: Eating as if the Earth Matters
www.brook.com/veg


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Mad cow misconceptions
Posted by: Sushi on Jan 25, 2007 11:06 AM   
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"Dave Warner, a spokesman for the National Pork Producers Council, said. "You've seen what happened with the cattle industry with BSE. That happened in one cow, and Japan and South Korea closed their markets. It took them forever to deal with that."

"Happened" to one cow? And what were the cows to the right and left of that cow eating? The same feed that the entire herd most likely. Everyone should do some serious reading about BSE and how it "happens". ("How the Cows Turned Mad", by Schwartz and Schneider is eye-opening.)

It is also interesting how the British officials tried to hide the problem- to protect the industry, not the people - until people began dropping dead. Yes, "one cow" displaying symptoms is a HUGE problem. Japan and Korea were wise to cut off imports of American beef...WE don't trust our goverment, why should they?

I applaud small farmers who go to the extra effort and expense to pasture their animals the old-fashioned way. The food produced from these farms is far superior in flavor to anything produced in a factory farm or dairy. I just got back from a visit to Paris and their cheeses, dairy and food in general is amazingly flavorful as most of it is locally produced. I think Americans have forgotten what real food should taste like.
And yes, France tracks their meats...even restaurants display the numbers on their menu and anyone can go track their steak or slice of liver on the internet back to the farm that produced it.

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A perfect reason to push to legalize hemp for food to feed the animals.
Posted by: maxpayne on Jan 25, 2007 11:27 AM   
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And with that, America can have healthy meat instead of the hormone drug type.

If not hemp for fuel, then at least hemp for food please. Alternet, are you listening ?

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» Would cows like them? Posted by: WhatNow?
It's all about dictating price and control of US
Posted by: Krain61 on Jan 25, 2007 3:52 PM   
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If they put this in place it will eventually put the small people out of business.And in many cases there land will be sold at actions to the big companies cheap..Then they will start big scale cloning of the animals which could eliminate our healthy stocks of food..Then they will set the price at what ever they want..Monopoly is what they will have..
Didn't the Russians and Germans use a sort of tracking system around WW!! for the food supply??? Doesn't this sound very similer to hitler? Also didn't bush say our constitution was just a piece of paper..I just wonder how many stains he's put on it.. Will over 750 mini laws! I'm not surprized about this one bit..I just wonder who in Congress pushed it though..We need to eradicate the scums from office who happen to be the Dem-licans or are they the Republacrates

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Just another reason to have a Revolution
Posted by: Krain61 on Jan 25, 2007 3:55 PM   
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Now

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Humans are next
Posted by: DataDoc on Jan 25, 2007 9:48 PM   
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Then if bird flu breaks out, we can use hand scanners to decide who lives and who dies. Hamburgers anyone?

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Driven by Foreign Consumption
Posted by: sofla100 on Jan 25, 2007 10:48 PM   
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Agricultural regulation in America is totally corporate controlled, but it would only be worse if agriculture were regulated at the state level. At the state level, corporations would have an even easier time taking over and running out as many small farmers (if any are left) as possible. Look, this entire thing is driven by the need to guarantee to foreign countries the disease free nature of American livestock. However, Europeans don't want much of American livestock anyway, the use of hormones and any synthetic substances are a big concern for them. Farmers also don't want to be told not to use these hormones which greatly increase the size and bulk of livestock. But, as foreign markets expand and foreign consumers become more savvy and demanding, American agriculture may not have much choice if it is too continue overseas sales or not.

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gov't control
Posted by: gellero on Jan 25, 2007 10:58 PM   
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AlterNet types seem to always beg for gov't control of everything, but when it happens, they bitch, bitch, bitch

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» RE: gov't control Posted by: Henwhisperer
Gov't Control Coming to Get You!
Posted by: sofla100 on Jan 26, 2007 6:08 AM   
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Yes, to the above poster. After all, why should the GOVERNMENT regulated the food industry??? Why cannot ood companies sell whatever they want!!! It's that big bad GOVERNMENT AGAIN coming to get you!!! Like those traffic lights on the road, WHY SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT INSTALL TRAFFIC LIGHTS ANYWAY??? Furthermore, why should the government regulate who can call themselves a doctor or a lawyer, why cannot we just decide that ourselves. Watch out for that BIG BAD GOV, COMING TO GET YOU, YOU KNOW!

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ID should be market driven
Posted by: dwd on Jan 26, 2007 6:56 AM   
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All it would take is one meg-beef corporation to announce that it will pay $X above market price for any beef that uses their ID system. Producers can then decide for themselves if this premium is worth the effort and expense to participate. The market would decide how much of a premium participation in an animal id system is worth. The big boys would have the product for their forgeign markets, although at some added cost. But it seems they want this is system for free, how convenient for them.
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Corrections and observations
Posted by: pdqbach55 on Jan 26, 2007 9:08 AM   
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I am a third generation farmer from the midwest. Every day, I mangage my farm in such a way that will offer the best chance for survival. In my opinion, the term "sustainable agriculture" implies exactly that. If you disagree, that's your opinion.

Having said that, here are a few corrections and observations of Jason's topic.

First correction. Jason writes, "The creation of an animal tracking ID system is largely intended, then, to give foreign importers some "PIECE" of mind by establishing a way to quickly trace back diseased animals to their source and quarantine that specific herd, while letting the rest of the industry go about business as usual." (the cap's were mine to highlight the incorrect word spelling)

The capitalized word should be "peace."

Second, farmers and small feedlot owners were the orginal promoters of labeling, not the big processors nor the USDA. In fact, a small meat processor in Kansas was stopped by the USDA for its efforts to begin its labeling program.

Third, any thoughts that this is a conspiracy by the big corporate meat processors and USDA is totally false.

Sustainable ag promoters have enough on their table than to give this conspiracy idea a second thought. If producing free range beef and chicken is the "right" way to go, by golly, prove its economic sustainability and out-smart those "evil" corporations with your methods in the field. If you are not already doing this, you have way too much time on your hands and need to get working.

Fourth, the proof that sustainable ag works is in the survivability of the system. Stop blaming other people for your misery. If you believe all consumers would buy free range chickens and beef at a premium if they had access to a market, I ask you; who is stopping you from providing that product?

The answer is, you are stopping yourself.

Having said that, once sustainable ag gets its act together, they will discover something most farmers and processors already know. Nationwide, the average consumer is very price conscious. Quality, taste and safety are in second, third and fourth place.

Not every consumer lives on six figure income and owns three condo's and a country estate in California or upstate New York. Try selling a free range chicken at a premiumn to a single mother in the inner city when she has to work two low wage jobs to make ends meet. She will tell you, "my kids have to eat seven days a week, not three." The question then, is, can you produce the food at a reasonable cost?

Get to work and prove to the world that you can.

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NAIS hits home, too.
Posted by: magpie214 on Jan 27, 2007 2:52 AM   
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As if forcing small producers to shoulder an intrusive and expensive burden weren't enough, NAIS will affect animal owners who are not farmers as well. This is not limited to people who are trying to make a living raising animals. Everyone who has livestock, from horses to a few hens in the back yard, will be expected to tag their animals, purchase expensive equipment and record and report when an animal leaves the registered property (trail rides and such) or be slapped with a stiff fine. So if you think you are immune because you don't support the meat industry, think again! Also, New Zealand recently made microchipping of dogs mandatory. Is that far behind for the US?

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