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'Precocious Puberty' Is on the Rise
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Researchers call this phenomenon "precocious puberty," which some say is on the rise. Forty-eight percent of African-American girls and 15 percent of Caucasian girls show physical signs of puberty by age 8, according to a study of 17,000 U.S. girls published in Pediatrics in 1997. In a subsequent study of more than 2,000 boys, lead author Marcia Herman-Giddens found that 38 percent of African-American boys and 30 percent of Caucasian boys showed signs of sexual development by age 8.
What’s going on? Although scientists have yet to prove definitive causes, many suspect that hormone-mimicking chemicals, obesity and stress all contribute to precocious puberty. The chemicals, often called endocrine disruptors, are of particular concern because they’re everywhere -- in food, water, personal-care products, some plastics and many consumer goods.
Pediatrician Darshak Sanghavi notes in The New York Times that outbreaks of precocious puberty are most often traced to accidental exposure to drugs in hormone-laden products. He describes a case in which a kindergarten-age boy and his younger sister had both begun growing pubic hair. In addition, the boy was exhibiting aggressive behaviour.
When Sanghavi's colleagues examined the children, they discovered that both had extremely elevated levels of testosterone -- equivalent to those of an adult male -- and that their father was using a concentrated testosterone skin cream "for cosmetic and sexual purposes." The children had absorbed the testosterone from normal skin contact with their father.
It’s a problem that’s not likely to go away anytime soon. The New York Times notes that prescriptions for products containing testosterone are on the rise, doubling to more than 2.4 million between 2000 and 2004.
Of course, we can’t blame it all on testosterone. Phthalates, ubiquitous industrial plasticizers common in everything from personal-care products to vinyl and plastic packaging, mimic estrogen. So do compounds in some pesticides and flame retardants. A growing body of evidence suggests that these and other endocrine-disrupting chemicals can interfere with sexual development, an idea widely introduced in the groundbreaking book "Our Stolen Future" by Theo Colburn, Diane Dumanoski, and John Peterson Myers.
In the two decades since the book’s publication, evidence has mounted that substantiates its main thesis. The September, 2006 issue of Alternative Medicine points out that a number of human studies have found possible links between endocrine disruptors and early puberty. One study found that Puerto Rican girls whose breasts developed earlier were three times more likely to have elevated levels of phthalate esters in their blood. Another reported that girls who had been accidentally exposed in the womb to polybrominated biphenyls -- common flame retardants containing compounds that mimic estrogen -- began menstruating a year earlier than a control group.
Some researchers have linked precocious puberty with factors including obesity, stress, and a sedentary lifestyle. "In the animal industry, to hasten puberty, they keep the animals confined, they feed them really rich diets, and they grow really fast," Marcia Herman-Giddens notes in Alternative Medicine. "That is exactly what we are doing to our children."
As young children struggle to cope with changing bodies, the psychological trauma can lead to later problems including depression, substance abuse and teenage pregnancies, according to a number of studies. Meanwhile, parents wrestle with painful decisions such as whether or not to give their children injections of drugs like Lupron, an expensive medication that suppresses hormones and has some 26 possible side effects.
Dr. Paul Kaplowitz, chief of endocrinology at Children’s National Medical Center in Washington, D.C., and author of Early Puberty in Girls: The Essential Guide to Coping with this Common Problem, distinguishes between actual precocious puberty and more benign and isolated signs such as body odour, pubic-hair growth or breast development before recommending treatment, according to Alternative Medicine. He notes that less than 10 percent of the girls referred to him require treatment for early puberty.
Still, what’s happening now in children’s bodies affects their daily lives and their future health -- and may well foreshadow broader environmental and social crises.
What can you do?
Parents can take practical steps to minimize their children’s risk for early puberty and encourage healthy lifestyles. These are key steps according to Sherrill Sellman, author of "What Women Must Know to Protect Their Daughters from Breast Cancer":
- Avoid meat, milk and dairy products containing growth hormones
- Buy organic produce
- Minimize soy, which mimics estrogen
- Choose green household products
- Encourage children to eat well and exercise
- Prevent children from chewing on plastic toys
- Avoid polyvinyl chloride (PVC) products, including vinyl shower curtains and toys and packaging that bear the number "3," indicating they’re made with PVC.
Schedule an appointment with a health-care practitioner, Sellman says, if your child shows unusually early signs of puberty. In addition, since phthalates are rarely included on cosmetics labels, visit sites like safecosmetics.org to find the safest personal-care products. Many of these small steps can help reduce your child’s exposure to endocrine-disrupting chemicals while cumulatively contributing to a healthier planet. And that bodes well for all children.
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Posted by: Joyleaf on Jan 6, 2007 3:43 AM
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Now think about other things--the father's testosterone cream, birth control pills, bovine growth hormone, etc.--which are also washing into our waterways. Hormones have been accumulating in public water as we eat, medicate with and urinate away very substantial amounts of garden variety hormones. When you add to that the slew of chemicals which disrupt or emulate hormones, you have a real mess on your hands.
Was it the Potomac that showed a shocking number of intersexed wildlife due to outrageous levels of hormones and hormone emulators in the water? In any case, the example was extreme but not isolated.
A lot stays in our water. When throwing something away, it's important to destroy the illusion that there is some safe place ("away") where this stuff goes. What we use, consume and dispose of stays with us. All those chemicals with the scary warning labels have a good chance of washing straight down the drain and into our bodies.
(For a very amusing story, you might consider Googling a report that came out about an Italian river which was tested to see if estimates of cocaine use could be confirmed in some way by essentially putting the river through a piss test. The results were surprising--they found that based on the river, people in the area were consuming something like 40 times as much cocaine as previously estimated.)
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I had read and heard of the problem in girls, but had been wondering if boys were experiencing problems, too. I also wonder what we are going to find in the decades ahead.
As we have girls maturing earlier, are the women going to discover they hit menopause earlier? Is the increase in medications for Attention Deficit Disorder and the use of Ritalin so often related to aggression due to environmental testosterone?
What are the educators and child psychologists saying about discussions of sex and sexual features as “the talk” cannot be delayed into the teenage years? Will younger and younger girls need to learn how to stand up for themselves as eyes move to budding breasts at a younger and younger age?
I have only heard/read of early puberty as an individual problem, but it has significant consequences for society now and in the decades to come.
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Posted by: Don Garb on Jan 6, 2007 7:45 AM
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There are xeno-estrogens in the environment (alien or foreign) that get into a woman's body in REALLY high doses, like when you microwave food in contact with plastic for instance. The woman's brain says "Whoa, WAY too much estrogen, turn up the testosterone!" But xeno-estrogens don't do anything except LOOK like estrogen, so the woman has overreacted to the other side.
Now the woman has too much testosterone, so she gains weight, because fat cells manufacture estrogen. If you're an overweight testo-woman, then don't let any of your food ever touch plastic, especially in combination with heat. Take up a vegetarian like diet. You can still eat meat but also eat lots of tofu, yams, broccoli, beans, nuts and seeds. Those all contain phyto-estrogens (plant made) which is an estrogen that really works. This will reduce your brain's need for estrogen and you will lose the fat cells. If you're on the pill then ask your doctor about changing to one that's high in progesterone.
I've been telling people about this stuff for years and they think I'm crazy. You decide for yourself: look at every female you see and note where the fat is deposited on her body. Look very closely ...
and you will see!
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While I hope that future enlightened state and federal governments will look at production, dispersal, and disposal of particular chemicals, I think that the simplest thing that can be done to eliminate one factor in what is surely a synergistic process is ceasing the addition of fluoride to public water systems.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jan 6, 2007 8:26 AM
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Listened to the lyrics of rap and hip-hop music lately? This "music" (melodically it barely qualifies), so popular with preteens to twenty-somethings of all races but predominately blacks (note the higher percentage of precocious puberty in black teens), is laced with references to adult sexuality, some of it very kinky (and misogynistic). Hammer this junk into young brains incessantly at 120 decibels and it has to have an effect. Add in film and television entertainment that is, more often than not, highly sexually charged (even some cable TV programming is close to soft porn), and our kids are being flooded with triggers for early sexual development nearly 24/7. We are what we eat, but we also are what we think and feel.
The saddest aspect of this pop culture deluge, from rap to lowest-common-denominator entertainment, is that it is being produced solely for the most cynical of reasons (but the only reward of "free-market" capitalism): money. Profit, any way you can get it, and to hell with the result.
Parents are told to "just say no," to keep their kids from such influences; but with these influences being all-pervasive, this simply is not possible. So get used to nine-year-olds with pubic hair and ten-year-olds risking pregnancy. This is the new reality borne of a laissez-faire economic system.
Yessir, folks; it is a Brave New World we're stumbling into.
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But apparantly its ok to pass to humans from animals who are fed it. Why? Because Monsanto says so.
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Posted by: WitchyNy on Jan 6, 2007 11:19 AM
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Raise your own fee-range-chickens for eggs.
Grind your own (organic) wheat and bake your own bread.
Until we change...the government/industry complex will not change. If you live in the city-demand they change zoning and allow community farms-gardens.
All this is also exercise for the children.
There will still be some impurities-due to pollution, but what a difference- in so many ways. Don't eat meat-Eat the Rich instead.
Oh yes...and shoot your TV.
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Women eating Western diets high in rich foods start earlier, finish later, have fewer children and breastfeed them for a shorter time, all of which mean that they are fertile (high in estrogen) for a far longer time than in more basic societies.
Even in Japan and other Asian countries, with a simpler diet, the resulting reduction of estrogen levels result in a marked reduction in breast cancer.
See studies by Dr T Colin Campbell if you want full documentation of this point.
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One hundred years ago the cancer rate was 1 in 100 and today it's 1 in 10..You can't drive the hy-ways during planting season with out ingesting some of the crap they spray for bugs ..If you smell it it's in your body..They make a big deal about smokers and non smokers but who is protecting us from second hand chemical use..If we stopped using it they would stop making it..If we don't start buying natural foods the big companies with keep squeezing the little guys out who supply the non-chemical food..We are the only country in the world that uses Fluoride in our water..Anyone one who says that it can't have something to do with how were poisoning our food and water{whether it's though growing seeds or live stock or processing either} through these acts is just being ignorant..
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and underscoring the racist dimension of the issue both in
USA and abroad.
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Also Gay Daly has an excellent article ...Bad Chemistry....
in the Winter 2006 (online) pub of the NRDC :onearth
The Wiki paragraph above on the global international aspects
should be read in tandem with the December 13 2006
npr(online) interview of Vandana Shiva by Amy Goodman.
Remember, fresh water is becoming an increasingly
unavailable critical resource.
...On another plane..I wonder how all of these exponentially
growing and interlocking crises relate to the Dawkins/Harris
et al position of 'Science as Saviour', in the sense of it serv-
ing as a 21st Century Delphi source of sound rational
direction.
ALL of this stuff is the RESULT of Science and its 'colleague':
Technology....when it comes to track records...let he who is
free of possible planet wrecking screw ups cast the first
stone!
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Posted by: grumble-bum on Jan 7, 2007 7:31 PM
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Conversely, during the same span of time, I've also noticed that boys seem to be exhibiting more "female" traits as well (wider hips & more than "normal" amounts of fat storage in the chest), although for a long time I dismissed this as a result of general inactivity. For the record, I think it could be said that I personally exhibit these traits in build & fat placement more than men of say, my father's generation, but less than many men younger than I.
Until I read this article I was beginning to wonder if my friends & I were just somehow losing our collective minds. I am grateful in particular to this poster for bringing up this aspect of the problems outlined in the actual article.
I should also note, before someone gets pissed off, that I hardly suffer from some sort of "Barbie" complex. I love the female form in all it's usual natural permutations, & in fact am probably most strongly attracted to naturally "boyish" women. But I don't think these more recent trends (on both sides of the seemingly narrowing sexual divide) are "natural" in any way.
I suppose that a positive, "Scientifiction", spin on all this would be that as Humanity begins to look more & more similar sexually, we will eventually evolve into a species that is less & less crippled by gender-bias.
But to this observer, this seems like yet another symptom of just how badly (possibly irrevocably) we have screwed up our natural world.
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They even got a law passed that anyone who tries to enter their premises for the animals protection be labeled a, "Tererorist"!!!!!!!!
What they are hiding should be brought to the light and examined. As well as a Congress that needs to protect the PUBLIC as their job IS PUBLIC SERIVCE!
Maybe it will happen with a Democratic Congress...our lives depend on it!
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It is estimated that 4-5% of girls (less data available for boys) experience this phenomemon. Is that more than 50 years ago? I have not seen data to support that.
It's entirely possibe that it has as much to do with genetics and body mass as it does with food additives and growth hormones in cattle, etc.
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Now think about other things--the father's testosterone cream, birth control pills, bovine growth hormone, etc.--which are also washing into our waterways. Hormones have been accumulating in public water as we eat, medicate with and urinate away very substantial amounts of garden variety hormones. When you add to that the slew of chemicals which disrupt or emulate hormones, you have a real mess on your hands.
Was it the Potomac that showed a shocking number of intersexed wildlife due to outrageous levels of hormones and hormone emulators in the water? In any case, the example was extreme but not isolated.
A lot stays in our water. When throwing something away, it's important to destroy the illusion that there is some safe place ("away") where this stuff goes. What we use, consume and dispose of stays with us. All those chemicals with the scary warning labels have a good chance of washing straight down the drain and into our bodies.
(For a very amusing story, you might consider Googling a report that came out about an Italian river which was tested to see if estimates of cocaine use could be confirmed in some way by essentially putting the river through a piss test. The results were surprising--they found that based on the river, people in the area were consuming something like 40 times as much cocaine as previously estimated.)
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Not that I believe in that "greenhouse gas" crap!
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I had read and heard of the problem in girls, but had been wondering if boys were experiencing problems, too. I also wonder what we are going to find in the decades ahead.
As we have girls maturing earlier, are the women going to discover they hit menopause earlier? Is the increase in medications for Attention Deficit Disorder and the use of Ritalin so often related to aggression due to environmental testosterone?
What are the educators and child psychologists saying about discussions of sex and sexual features as “the talk” cannot be delayed into the teenage years? Will younger and younger girls need to learn how to stand up for themselves as eyes move to budding breasts at a younger and younger age?
I have only heard/read of early puberty as an individual problem, but it has significant consequences for society now and in the decades to come.
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Posted by: Don Garb on Jan 6, 2007 7:45 AM
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There are xeno-estrogens in the environment (alien or foreign) that get into a woman's body in REALLY high doses, like when you microwave food in contact with plastic for instance. The woman's brain says "Whoa, WAY too much estrogen, turn up the testosterone!" But xeno-estrogens don't do anything except LOOK like estrogen, so the woman has overreacted to the other side.
Now the woman has too much testosterone, so she gains weight, because fat cells manufacture estrogen. If you're an overweight testo-woman, then don't let any of your food ever touch plastic, especially in combination with heat. Take up a vegetarian like diet. You can still eat meat but also eat lots of tofu, yams, broccoli, beans, nuts and seeds. Those all contain phyto-estrogens (plant made) which is an estrogen that really works. This will reduce your brain's need for estrogen and you will lose the fat cells. If you're on the pill then ask your doctor about changing to one that's high in progesterone.
I've been telling people about this stuff for years and they think I'm crazy. You decide for yourself: look at every female you see and note where the fat is deposited on her body. Look very closely ...
and you will see!
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Posted by: plantland on Jan 6, 2007 7:56 AM
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While I hope that future enlightened state and federal governments will look at production, dispersal, and disposal of particular chemicals, I think that the simplest thing that can be done to eliminate one factor in what is surely a synergistic process is ceasing the addition of fluoride to public water systems.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jan 6, 2007 8:26 AM
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Listened to the lyrics of rap and hip-hop music lately? This "music" (melodically it barely qualifies), so popular with preteens to twenty-somethings of all races but predominately blacks (note the higher percentage of precocious puberty in black teens), is laced with references to adult sexuality, some of it very kinky (and misogynistic). Hammer this junk into young brains incessantly at 120 decibels and it has to have an effect. Add in film and television entertainment that is, more often than not, highly sexually charged (even some cable TV programming is close to soft porn), and our kids are being flooded with triggers for early sexual development nearly 24/7. We are what we eat, but we also are what we think and feel.
The saddest aspect of this pop culture deluge, from rap to lowest-common-denominator entertainment, is that it is being produced solely for the most cynical of reasons (but the only reward of "free-market" capitalism): money. Profit, any way you can get it, and to hell with the result.
Parents are told to "just say no," to keep their kids from such influences; but with these influences being all-pervasive, this simply is not possible. So get used to nine-year-olds with pubic hair and ten-year-olds risking pregnancy. This is the new reality borne of a laissez-faire economic system.
Yessir, folks; it is a Brave New World we're stumbling into.
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But apparantly its ok to pass to humans from animals who are fed it. Why? Because Monsanto says so.
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Posted by: WitchyNy on Jan 6, 2007 11:19 AM
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Raise your own fee-range-chickens for eggs.
Grind your own (organic) wheat and bake your own bread.
Until we change...the government/industry complex will not change. If you live in the city-demand they change zoning and allow community farms-gardens.
All this is also exercise for the children.
There will still be some impurities-due to pollution, but what a difference- in so many ways. Don't eat meat-Eat the Rich instead.
Oh yes...and shoot your TV.
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Posted by: jparsons on Jan 6, 2007 12:42 PM
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Women eating Western diets high in rich foods start earlier, finish later, have fewer children and breastfeed them for a shorter time, all of which mean that they are fertile (high in estrogen) for a far longer time than in more basic societies.
Even in Japan and other Asian countries, with a simpler diet, the resulting reduction of estrogen levels result in a marked reduction in breast cancer.
See studies by Dr T Colin Campbell if you want full documentation of this point.
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One hundred years ago the cancer rate was 1 in 100 and today it's 1 in 10..You can't drive the hy-ways during planting season with out ingesting some of the crap they spray for bugs ..If you smell it it's in your body..They make a big deal about smokers and non smokers but who is protecting us from second hand chemical use..If we stopped using it they would stop making it..If we don't start buying natural foods the big companies with keep squeezing the little guys out who supply the non-chemical food..We are the only country in the world that uses Fluoride in our water..Anyone one who says that it can't have something to do with how were poisoning our food and water{whether it's though growing seeds or live stock or processing either} through these acts is just being ignorant..
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and underscoring the racist dimension of the issue both in
USA and abroad.
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Also Gay Daly has an excellent article ...Bad Chemistry....
in the Winter 2006 (online) pub of the NRDC :onearth
The Wiki paragraph above on the global international aspects
should be read in tandem with the December 13 2006
npr(online) interview of Vandana Shiva by Amy Goodman.
Remember, fresh water is becoming an increasingly
unavailable critical resource.
...On another plane..I wonder how all of these exponentially
growing and interlocking crises relate to the Dawkins/Harris
et al position of 'Science as Saviour', in the sense of it serv-
ing as a 21st Century Delphi source of sound rational
direction.
ALL of this stuff is the RESULT of Science and its 'colleague':
Technology....when it comes to track records...let he who is
free of possible planet wrecking screw ups cast the first
stone!
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Posted by: grumble-bum on Jan 7, 2007 7:31 PM
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Conversely, during the same span of time, I've also noticed that boys seem to be exhibiting more "female" traits as well (wider hips & more than "normal" amounts of fat storage in the chest), although for a long time I dismissed this as a result of general inactivity. For the record, I think it could be said that I personally exhibit these traits in build & fat placement more than men of say, my father's generation, but less than many men younger than I.
Until I read this article I was beginning to wonder if my friends & I were just somehow losing our collective minds. I am grateful in particular to this poster for bringing up this aspect of the problems outlined in the actual article.
I should also note, before someone gets pissed off, that I hardly suffer from some sort of "Barbie" complex. I love the female form in all it's usual natural permutations, & in fact am probably most strongly attracted to naturally "boyish" women. But I don't think these more recent trends (on both sides of the seemingly narrowing sexual divide) are "natural" in any way.
I suppose that a positive, "Scientifiction", spin on all this would be that as Humanity begins to look more & more similar sexually, we will eventually evolve into a species that is less & less crippled by gender-bias.
But to this observer, this seems like yet another symptom of just how badly (possibly irrevocably) we have screwed up our natural world.
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Posted by: Barbie98765 on Jan 8, 2007 6:49 AM
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They even got a law passed that anyone who tries to enter their premises for the animals protection be labeled a, "Tererorist"!!!!!!!!
What they are hiding should be brought to the light and examined. As well as a Congress that needs to protect the PUBLIC as their job IS PUBLIC SERIVCE!
Maybe it will happen with a Democratic Congress...our lives depend on it!
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Posted by: fanny666 on Jan 8, 2007 12:56 PM
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It is estimated that 4-5% of girls (less data available for boys) experience this phenomemon. Is that more than 50 years ago? I have not seen data to support that.
It's entirely possibe that it has as much to do with genetics and body mass as it does with food additives and growth hormones in cattle, etc.
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