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Let's Get the Grease out of School Lunches
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The cool stainless tubular slides that once carried plastic trays of hot food dished out by hair-netted women in starched white uniforms remain. But no milk machines squirt columns of regular or chocolate milk; no bottom-heated tables keep mashed potatoes or lasagna warm; no fishcakes wait in stacks; no coleslaw sits at the ready; no clam chowder simmers, ready to be ladled into waiting bowls.
The heating table's large pans are now filled with prepackaged barbecued beef sandwiches and cheeseburgers prepared at anonymous kitchens, miles away, with ingredients from U.S. government commodities programs. On the wall a faded sign reads, "Fruits and vegetables are always in season. Whether they're fresh, frozen, canned, or dried, they all count." The cardboard "No pizza today" sign brings audible sighs of disappointment.
A salad bar graces one corner of the room, laden with shredded iceberg lettuce, grated cheese, pickles, peppers, yogurt, granola, peanuts, and apple and orange pieces. Another station is stacked with Italian subs, ham sandwiches, and celery pieces with containers of peanut butter. With a pair of plastic tongs, the lady in charge of the salad bar makes a futile attempt to conceal the brown lettuce leaves. She asks if I'm an inspector, then apologizes for the condition of the lettuce. She tells me that it's the last day before the break and that they're trying to "get rid of" the old product.
The longest lines of students lead to two wire mesh-covered windows outside the building, where attendants dispense nachos -- orange gooey imitation cheese squirted from a machine onto chips. Every purchased item is placed in a thick cardboard tray. I watch as students pay for their food, then immediately toss the trays, foil wrappers, napkins, and cans into rapidly filling trash barrels.
Just a few blocks away, in the fertile fields of Fairview Gardens, a small community farm, long rows of asparagus poke their heads out of sandy soil, crimson strawberries dot a nearby field, and multicolored lettuces stand up straight and tall. Peach, plum, apricot, and nectarine trees have just shed their pink and white flower petals, revealing branches loaded with small fruit. In neighboring fields, the last of the mandarin oranges hang like orange beacons, and the first avocados cluster from huge grandfather trees in the "cathedral" orchard that dominates the land.
The farm is often referred to as "the little farm that could" for its unprecedented diversity of products and as a model of urban agriculture and public education. It has operated since 1895, holding out against the tide of development, withstanding a range of threats to its existence, and now permanently preserved under an agricultural conservation easement.
In the large field along Fairview Avenue, the main thoroughfare used by most students going to and from the school, carrots, beets, spinach, onions, broccoli, artichokes, and snap and English peas provide food for the burgeoning suburban population that now inhabits this once agricultural valley. In the surrounding neighborhood, fields containing some of the richest and deepest topsoil on the West Coast now yield housing developments, shopping centers, and clogged roadways.
It takes about 10 minutes to walk from Goleta Valley Junior High to Fairview Gardens farm, about four minutes by bicycle, and about one minute by car. This stunning twelve-and-a-half-acre outdoor classroom is open to the public. Thousands of people come each year to enjoy a different kind of educational experience, starting with soil and moving through a range of food crops and animals. Hundreds of students from the school have toured the farm. The farm helped the school to start a garden and has done assembly presentations about food and farming. But while those experiences are well received, the ideas and inspiration they engender stop at the cafeteria door. As founder and executive director of the Center for Urban Agriculture at Fairview Gardens, I've tried to interest the school in replacing some of the highly processed, distantly grown items that its cafeteria serves. I've offered the alternative of fresh, organic food grown by the school's neighbor down the street, but have never been able to generate interest.
Recently, the school district spent $150,000 on a computer system to manage the inflow of anonymous food from distant sources. But it doesn't require a computer to figure out that young people need whole food -- food that tastes better because it's grown in living soil and harvested locally, food that makes clear the relationship between human health and the health of the Earth. It doesn't require a computer to tell us that by feeding young people the best, not just the cheapest, we are in effect feeding and nourishing our own future.
Why shouldn't students be eating the sweet French carrots, the Clementine mandarins, the year-round salad greens, the radishes and beets and avocados that grow so near the school? How difficult would it be to replace nachos with real corn on the cob? How much more time and expense would be required to serve farm-fresh eggs, or ripe strawberries, or bean or vegetable soups and stew produced with real local ingredients? How difficult would it be to spend less on hardware and more on providing professional development so that cafeteria staff can help students make connections between the food they eat and the farms where it's grown?
Imagine if students could plant, harvest, and cultivate the very foods that later appear in their lunch at the cafeteria. Shouldn't all 700 students at Goleta Valley Junior High be required, as part of their education, to develop a relationship with the farm in order to understand the connections between soil life and their own life -- between taste and health?
For more than 20 years I have hosted local students on the farm, walking and grazing from the fields with them, allowing them to settle into a different rhythm for an hour or two. I always take a few moments to get to know them, to ask a few simple questions before we begin; How many of you live on farms, how many have ever visited one, what did you eat for breakfast? Over the years I have seen a dramatic shift in young people's responses and in their relationship to food and the land.
It used to be that a handful in every group lived on farms; most had at least visited one. Their breakfast might have included an egg or a piece of fruit or bread, or even some whole grain. Now it is rare to find a kid who lives on a farm, or has even visited one. Many have not had breakfast, and those who have often tell me that it consisted of a granola bar, a corn dog, or even a can of Coke. It is not just kids' answers that tell me that something has changed. When young people come to the farm, I look at each of them, study them the way I do the farm's soil and plants and trees, try to get a feel for how they are doing. These days, many are overweight; they seem to lack focus and have difficulty being still. Our task with our young visitors is different now, our goals very basic. We want to provide them with something real to eat -- a fresh carrot or strawberry -- and an hour or two outside of the walls of the classroom, a chance to slow down and an opportunity to touch the Earth for just one moment and to be calmed and settled by it. Change, I have to remind myself, comes slowly and incrementally.
This essay by Michael Ableman is taken from Thinking outside the Lunchbox, an essay series of the Center for Ecoliteracy, ecoliteracy.org © Copyright 2005 Center for Ecoliteracy. All rights reserved. Printed with permission.
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Posted by: eyespy on Aug 28, 2006 1:02 AM
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Cooking good tasting food with good food is not that difficult. Simple training can be provided to large numbers of people to familiarize them with how to cook with fresh ingredients. Specialized training could then be provided at the schools to complete this process.
This would probably be expensive. But when you take the conventional wisdom that one dollar spent on prevention is worth ten in treatment, it starts to look like a bargain. Kids today are unhealthy, shockingly so. They will become dependent on pharmaceutical medicine and die earlier if there is not a fundamental change in the way American schools provide nutrition for their students.
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Posted by: ahmlco on Aug 28, 2006 1:26 AM
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I'd rather they spent their time learning to actually read and write, with math, hard science, and history thrown in to boot.
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Posted by: mothersmovement on Aug 28, 2006 5:57 AM
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Not to mention, most school districts have cut back their physical education and recess periods to the bare minimum to make time for required academics and standardized testing. Even in areas where food could be planted and grown as part of the regular school curriculum, I just can't see that happening unless the school day is extended.
I'm all in favor of including more quality, fresh food in school lunches. But Mr. Ableman's plan isn't feasible as a national model.
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Posted by: Jesse on Aug 28, 2006 6:10 AM
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While I like the idea of having gardens supply the schools, such things strike me as of limitied practicability for many schools, especially urban ones.
Then there is the issue of supplying schools in winter, for kids that don't live in places with a year-round growing season.
Many schools manage to do this kind of stuff as a botique project, but it doesn't strike me as a good way to get a lunch to a school with 1,000 students in, say, Brooklyn. this isn't becuase I think kids should eat processed food--lord knows, I blame those TV-dinner things we got in the 70s for puttingme off beans for years. (Anyone else here remember those overcooked string beans with the single-meatball spaghetti?)
But I see a whole stack of basic, practical difficuties here.
That said, a 4-H like program for some part of the year is no bad thing. Especially since most people simply don't live on farms anymore (and there really is no reason they should).
Also, let's not romanticize the rural living thing. My great aunt grew up many years back in upstate New York, and as she tells it, it isn't the kind of life I'd be interested in. Having to spend several hours a day to churn your own butter doesn't thrill me, nor does hoeing with a cultivator for another 12 hours. But that is what happens on an organic farm (at that time they didn't have petroleum-based fertilizers).
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Posted by: Snott on Aug 28, 2006 6:45 AM
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In the areas of education and health, primary responsibilities carried by the parents and supported by the schools, history shows that those with involved, concerned parents do the best - far beyond those whose parents plunk a buck and half in their kids hands daily and expect them to eat whatever they can get that they like.
One local elementary school here actually has a greenhouse and all grades get to participate in growing and sometimes preparing food for lunches. I disagree that they should be spending all their time on Readin' Writin' and 'Rithmatic - lessons in some of the essential factors of life are vital.
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Posted by: plantland on Aug 28, 2006 7:34 AM
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It is important that if the US goes forward in the near future with Senator McGovern's plan to enable all developing countries to serve a school meal, both to help children nutritionally and as an inducement to stay in school, that wholesome foods are selected for those programs, and not have them bidded out to processors who will introduce them to more additives and sugar.
I think that it is very problematic that people come to the US for a better life only to buy and be served food which induces obesity and causes attention deficit disorder.
Foreign aid should go to support organic farming and employment by guaranteeing the purchase of locally produced wholesome fruits and vegetables for their own school lunch programs and for import to the US, hopefully for our school lunch programs.
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Posted by: ericn613 on Aug 28, 2006 7:51 AM
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I understand that avocadoes and oranges don't grow everywhere, but it would be really wonderful if school lunch programs instituted what we should all be doing to save not only our health but the environment: eat locally, organically, and seasonally. With the appropriate planning, this is attainable and affordable.
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Posted by: Kneel on Aug 28, 2006 8:42 AM
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Then they could do it at home.
I mean, I imagine after seeing and tasting such food bursting right out of the ground where there was just this useless grass that had to be mowed all the time, a lot of students and others would go nuts to try this at home.
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Posted by: FauxPorteno on Aug 28, 2006 9:36 AM
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That sounds wonderful except for one minor detail: kids don't eat that good stuff in their own homes yet we expect them to eat a balanced diet at school when no one is watching? I doubt many kids would eat right even if given the choice. Here is a simple truth for parents. A Big Mac or Snickers bar tastes better than whole wheat bread and brussel sprouts so it should come as no surprise that kids opt for the more satisfying yet nutritionally deficient food. The kind of crap I see parents buying for their kids in supermarkets today is appalling. Sugary cereals and sodas, processed meats with nitrites, empty carb/high fat foods like chips - the list goes on.
Kids will take the habits you initiate early on with them for a lifetime. I'm not exactly sure how parents can persuade their kids to eat healthier but I know that serving vegetables at dinner and making fruit available for snacks at least gives them the option to start forming better eating habits when it counts. You could always do what my parents did - force them to eat their veggies. Fortunately for them I was a strange kid and loved broccoli, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, green beans, peaches, apples, etc. so mom and dad didn't really have their work cut out for them. Those habits have stuck with me to this day and at 33 I have 10% body fat and have climbed 6900+ meter peaks. I attribute much of that to my diet. It also didn't hurt that my parents ran a small organic truck farm where fresh veggies were only a hop, skip and a jump away.
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Posted by: Elmowilcox on Aug 28, 2006 11:11 AM
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So you say food, I say institutionalized mass laziness. Sure the food isn't the most healthy, but it's not why kids are fat, our bodies are set up to get rid of fat, it's used up as energy before ever gets the chance to be fat actually. Problem is that you don't burn much energy by working over a PS2 controller for 4 hours. Go throw a ball or something and eat your damn food, and like it.
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Posted by: biochemurgic on Aug 28, 2006 1:19 PM
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"The traditional fresh produce season for market gardeners in the colder parts of North America begins in June and ends in September. For the past eight years, in defiance of our long, cold Maine winters, we have been developing an environmentally sound, resource efficient, and economically viable system for extending fresh vegetable production into "the other eight months." We call it the "winter harvest." Our success thus far is very encouraging. We currently sell freshly harvested salads and main course vegetables from the 1st of October until the 31st of May."
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Posted by: Gravitas on Aug 28, 2006 1:25 PM
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I am dissappointed but not surprised at some of the comments though. While the author tried to put healthy eating in universal perspective, the readers can't let go of media brainwashing. They can't erase the tape that mitigation of obesity should be the be all and end all of good nutrition. What happens it they invent a pill where we can stay thin no matter what. Should we then stop caring about nutrition or the planet? And actually, that this generation will not live longer than their parents is speculation, not fact. In fact, it is a scare tactic by big Pharma who are the bucks behind the International Obesity Association. Fifty years ago, there were almost the exact same dire predictions about how obesity would shorten life and it did not come to pass. And as for the reader who only noticed "a few fatties" (I wonder what other group would be so objectified on a "liberal" board), it is not just lack of exercise or food. Environmental endocrine disrupters, growth hormones in food, and even moms who diet severely before pregnancy can cause weight gain.
"Weight obsession is a social disease. If we cared more about CO2 than BMI there would still be time."
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Posted by: darkgrrrl on Aug 28, 2006 3:00 PM
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The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) buys product from the American meat and dairy industries, and gives them to public schools. Operating on ever-tightening budgets, most schools have no choice but to accept and use that food. Big Agribusiness gets subsidized, and schoolchildren get unhealthy lunches.
Read the entire article here:
Unhappy Meals
Integrating locally grown foods into schools lunches is a wonderful idea, though its feasibilty is debatable. Another method of improvement would be to provide public schools with money enough to enable them to provide better-quality meals and decline the government's free-but-unhealthy offerings.
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Posted by: Aussie Kim on Aug 28, 2006 4:55 PM
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growing food
for their canteen
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Posted by: susannunes on Aug 29, 2006 6:01 PM
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Guess what? A BALANCED diet, NOT a pseudovegetarian, boring, not-particularly-healthy diet, is the answer.
I HATE and DESPISE health food nuts who fall sucker for every single quack idea under the sun.
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Posted by: Elmowilcox on Aug 29, 2006 7:34 PM
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I can even say that at some point in the future being able to cultivate the land will be more important than being able to read....again(as was in the past, and present in certain areas) as someone above already pointed out, but I just don't believe that this is a very important subject for a bunch of kids to learn. Especially considering that most live in the suburbs and cities where there isn't a half acre of viable farmland for miles any damn way. At best, it should be offerred as an elective at the middle school level in preparation for the 4H club in high school. Elementary school students belong in Elementary schools learning elementary skills for the rest of their lives, which will statiscally NOT involve ever tilling soil or picking veggies.
So that whole proposal to me isn't exactly a bad idea, just definitely not a good one that's going to solve much of anything for what's lost in the process.
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Posted by: clairethereader on Aug 30, 2006 3:59 PM
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I'm now a vegan with a very varied, healthy, balanced diet. I have a BMI of 21.2, perfectly clear skin, tons of energy, and I feel healthier than I've ever felt. I find it almost funny - during the day (I'm still in high school) I see most of my peers eating school lunch, overweight, with bad skin, looking tired...the connection is painfully obvious to me and apparently invisible to everyone else.
While it would be nice, I'm not saying every single student in my school and others around the country needs to go vegan or even vegetarian. I only wish the school lunch program and those who create it would shift to a more plant-based view of health, rather than one revolving around white bread, meat, scant fruit and vegetable selections, and milk. Doctors and dieticians point out that America is the fattest country in the world...can anything else be expected when we're teaching our children from the very beginning that these foods are the healthiest? Others have commented that good eating habits begin in the home, and, while this is true, the practice of good eating is difficult to make a lifelong habit when a person is being told for most of the first eighteen years of their life that a diet high in animal products and refined grains/sugars and low in fruits and vegetables is healthy.
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Posted by: eyespy on Aug 28, 2006 1:02 AM
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Cooking good tasting food with good food is not that difficult. Simple training can be provided to large numbers of people to familiarize them with how to cook with fresh ingredients. Specialized training could then be provided at the schools to complete this process.
This would probably be expensive. But when you take the conventional wisdom that one dollar spent on prevention is worth ten in treatment, it starts to look like a bargain. Kids today are unhealthy, shockingly so. They will become dependent on pharmaceutical medicine and die earlier if there is not a fundamental change in the way American schools provide nutrition for their students.
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Posted by: ahmlco on Aug 28, 2006 1:26 AM
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I'd rather they spent their time learning to actually read and write, with math, hard science, and history thrown in to boot.
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Posted by: mothersmovement on Aug 28, 2006 5:57 AM
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Not to mention, most school districts have cut back their physical education and recess periods to the bare minimum to make time for required academics and standardized testing. Even in areas where food could be planted and grown as part of the regular school curriculum, I just can't see that happening unless the school day is extended.
I'm all in favor of including more quality, fresh food in school lunches. But Mr. Ableman's plan isn't feasible as a national model.
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Posted by: Jesse on Aug 28, 2006 6:10 AM
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While I like the idea of having gardens supply the schools, such things strike me as of limitied practicability for many schools, especially urban ones.
Then there is the issue of supplying schools in winter, for kids that don't live in places with a year-round growing season.
Many schools manage to do this kind of stuff as a botique project, but it doesn't strike me as a good way to get a lunch to a school with 1,000 students in, say, Brooklyn. this isn't becuase I think kids should eat processed food--lord knows, I blame those TV-dinner things we got in the 70s for puttingme off beans for years. (Anyone else here remember those overcooked string beans with the single-meatball spaghetti?)
But I see a whole stack of basic, practical difficuties here.
That said, a 4-H like program for some part of the year is no bad thing. Especially since most people simply don't live on farms anymore (and there really is no reason they should).
Also, let's not romanticize the rural living thing. My great aunt grew up many years back in upstate New York, and as she tells it, it isn't the kind of life I'd be interested in. Having to spend several hours a day to churn your own butter doesn't thrill me, nor does hoeing with a cultivator for another 12 hours. But that is what happens on an organic farm (at that time they didn't have petroleum-based fertilizers).
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Posted by: Snott on Aug 28, 2006 6:45 AM
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In the areas of education and health, primary responsibilities carried by the parents and supported by the schools, history shows that those with involved, concerned parents do the best - far beyond those whose parents plunk a buck and half in their kids hands daily and expect them to eat whatever they can get that they like.
One local elementary school here actually has a greenhouse and all grades get to participate in growing and sometimes preparing food for lunches. I disagree that they should be spending all their time on Readin' Writin' and 'Rithmatic - lessons in some of the essential factors of life are vital.
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Posted by: dancingcloud on Aug 28, 2006 7:16 AM
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Posted by: plantland on Aug 28, 2006 7:34 AM
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It is important that if the US goes forward in the near future with Senator McGovern's plan to enable all developing countries to serve a school meal, both to help children nutritionally and as an inducement to stay in school, that wholesome foods are selected for those programs, and not have them bidded out to processors who will introduce them to more additives and sugar.
I think that it is very problematic that people come to the US for a better life only to buy and be served food which induces obesity and causes attention deficit disorder.
Foreign aid should go to support organic farming and employment by guaranteeing the purchase of locally produced wholesome fruits and vegetables for their own school lunch programs and for import to the US, hopefully for our school lunch programs.
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Posted by: ericn613 on Aug 28, 2006 7:51 AM
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I understand that avocadoes and oranges don't grow everywhere, but it would be really wonderful if school lunch programs instituted what we should all be doing to save not only our health but the environment: eat locally, organically, and seasonally. With the appropriate planning, this is attainable and affordable.
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Posted by: Kneel on Aug 28, 2006 8:42 AM
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Then they could do it at home.
I mean, I imagine after seeing and tasting such food bursting right out of the ground where there was just this useless grass that had to be mowed all the time, a lot of students and others would go nuts to try this at home.
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Posted by: FauxPorteno on Aug 28, 2006 9:36 AM
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That sounds wonderful except for one minor detail: kids don't eat that good stuff in their own homes yet we expect them to eat a balanced diet at school when no one is watching? I doubt many kids would eat right even if given the choice. Here is a simple truth for parents. A Big Mac or Snickers bar tastes better than whole wheat bread and brussel sprouts so it should come as no surprise that kids opt for the more satisfying yet nutritionally deficient food. The kind of crap I see parents buying for their kids in supermarkets today is appalling. Sugary cereals and sodas, processed meats with nitrites, empty carb/high fat foods like chips - the list goes on.
Kids will take the habits you initiate early on with them for a lifetime. I'm not exactly sure how parents can persuade their kids to eat healthier but I know that serving vegetables at dinner and making fruit available for snacks at least gives them the option to start forming better eating habits when it counts. You could always do what my parents did - force them to eat their veggies. Fortunately for them I was a strange kid and loved broccoli, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, green beans, peaches, apples, etc. so mom and dad didn't really have their work cut out for them. Those habits have stuck with me to this day and at 33 I have 10% body fat and have climbed 6900+ meter peaks. I attribute much of that to my diet. It also didn't hurt that my parents ran a small organic truck farm where fresh veggies were only a hop, skip and a jump away.
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Posted by: Elmowilcox on Aug 28, 2006 11:11 AM
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So you say food, I say institutionalized mass laziness. Sure the food isn't the most healthy, but it's not why kids are fat, our bodies are set up to get rid of fat, it's used up as energy before ever gets the chance to be fat actually. Problem is that you don't burn much energy by working over a PS2 controller for 4 hours. Go throw a ball or something and eat your damn food, and like it.
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Posted by: biochemurgic on Aug 28, 2006 1:19 PM
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"The traditional fresh produce season for market gardeners in the colder parts of North America begins in June and ends in September. For the past eight years, in defiance of our long, cold Maine winters, we have been developing an environmentally sound, resource efficient, and economically viable system for extending fresh vegetable production into "the other eight months." We call it the "winter harvest." Our success thus far is very encouraging. We currently sell freshly harvested salads and main course vegetables from the 1st of October until the 31st of May."
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Posted by: Gravitas on Aug 28, 2006 1:25 PM
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I am dissappointed but not surprised at some of the comments though. While the author tried to put healthy eating in universal perspective, the readers can't let go of media brainwashing. They can't erase the tape that mitigation of obesity should be the be all and end all of good nutrition. What happens it they invent a pill where we can stay thin no matter what. Should we then stop caring about nutrition or the planet? And actually, that this generation will not live longer than their parents is speculation, not fact. In fact, it is a scare tactic by big Pharma who are the bucks behind the International Obesity Association. Fifty years ago, there were almost the exact same dire predictions about how obesity would shorten life and it did not come to pass. And as for the reader who only noticed "a few fatties" (I wonder what other group would be so objectified on a "liberal" board), it is not just lack of exercise or food. Environmental endocrine disrupters, growth hormones in food, and even moms who diet severely before pregnancy can cause weight gain.
"Weight obsession is a social disease. If we cared more about CO2 than BMI there would still be time."
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Posted by: Logic's Edge on Aug 28, 2006 2:31 PM
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Posted by: darkgrrrl on Aug 28, 2006 3:00 PM
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The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) buys product from the American meat and dairy industries, and gives them to public schools. Operating on ever-tightening budgets, most schools have no choice but to accept and use that food. Big Agribusiness gets subsidized, and schoolchildren get unhealthy lunches.
Read the entire article here:
Unhappy Meals
Integrating locally grown foods into schools lunches is a wonderful idea, though its feasibilty is debatable. Another method of improvement would be to provide public schools with money enough to enable them to provide better-quality meals and decline the government's free-but-unhealthy offerings.
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Posted by: Aussie Kim on Aug 28, 2006 4:55 PM
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growing food
for their canteen
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Posted by: owleyes on Aug 28, 2006 7:57 PM
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Posted by: Gregor on Aug 28, 2006 9:58 PM
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Posted by: cynic on Aug 29, 2006 9:36 AM
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Posted by: susannunes on Aug 29, 2006 6:01 PM
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Guess what? A BALANCED diet, NOT a pseudovegetarian, boring, not-particularly-healthy diet, is the answer.
I HATE and DESPISE health food nuts who fall sucker for every single quack idea under the sun.
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Posted by: Elmowilcox on Aug 29, 2006 7:34 PM
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I can even say that at some point in the future being able to cultivate the land will be more important than being able to read....again(as was in the past, and present in certain areas) as someone above already pointed out, but I just don't believe that this is a very important subject for a bunch of kids to learn. Especially considering that most live in the suburbs and cities where there isn't a half acre of viable farmland for miles any damn way. At best, it should be offerred as an elective at the middle school level in preparation for the 4H club in high school. Elementary school students belong in Elementary schools learning elementary skills for the rest of their lives, which will statiscally NOT involve ever tilling soil or picking veggies.
So that whole proposal to me isn't exactly a bad idea, just definitely not a good one that's going to solve much of anything for what's lost in the process.
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Posted by: clairethereader on Aug 30, 2006 3:59 PM
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I'm now a vegan with a very varied, healthy, balanced diet. I have a BMI of 21.2, perfectly clear skin, tons of energy, and I feel healthier than I've ever felt. I find it almost funny - during the day (I'm still in high school) I see most of my peers eating school lunch, overweight, with bad skin, looking tired...the connection is painfully obvious to me and apparently invisible to everyone else.
While it would be nice, I'm not saying every single student in my school and others around the country needs to go vegan or even vegetarian. I only wish the school lunch program and those who create it would shift to a more plant-based view of health, rather than one revolving around white bread, meat, scant fruit and vegetable selections, and milk. Doctors and dieticians point out that America is the fattest country in the world...can anything else be expected when we're teaching our children from the very beginning that these foods are the healthiest? Others have commented that good eating habits begin in the home, and, while this is true, the practice of good eating is difficult to make a lifelong habit when a person is being told for most of the first eighteen years of their life that a diet high in animal products and refined grains/sugars and low in fruits and vegetables is healthy.
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