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My Children, The Food Experiment
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When Faith was born in 1998, my husband and I were living in Boston in an historic building where the wainscoting and windowsills were coated with lead paint. We knew we would need to move by the time that our daughter started crawling. Since I am a science writer and Jeff a sculptor, we began to look at communities that offered both large research libraries and cheap studio space. Ithaca, New York thus became our new home. On the very day that Faith first figured out forward locomotion, we loaded up a moving van with all our earthly possessions and headed for a log cabin in the woods just east of the Ithaca town line. The backyard descended into wetlands where great blue herons and foxes lived. The well water was sweet, and the frogs kept us awake at night. When we discovered, upon arrival, that our television set had apparently been stolen out of the back of the truck, we just shrugged.
And so the experiment was set in motion. We didn’t replace the TV. I got pregnant again and started writing a new book, which I was determined to finish before the baby was born. Meanwhile, Jeff took over the running of the household and the care of a willful toddler. He quickly made three discoveries. One, there was a community-supported organic farm at the top of the hill which we could join. It had a play area out in the fields to occupy little kids while their parents picked produce or engaged in adult conversation. It also offered regular potluck dinners, which meant less cooking for him and more choices for his lumbering and now quite finicky spouse.
Two, there was a cooperative grocery store downtown called GreenStar that we could also join. Not only did it stock organic teething biscuits, it had a play area near the deli to occupy little kids while their parents could read, say, the arts section of The New York Times and drink much-needed cups of coffee.
Discovery number three: if he worked two hours a week at GreenStar, we could get a 20 percent discount on groceries. The discount meant that the prices at the coop now approached those in regular supermarkets. And this meant that he didn’t have to drive anywhere else for dog food, toilet paper, dish soap, and toothpaste. The result was a net gain of time. Running errands with small children, Jeff pointed out, takes a lot longer than just the driving time, especially when one factors in the minutes lost to the buckling and unbuckling of car-seat straps, the zipping and unzipping of little jackets, the diaper changes in the men’s room, and, most dreaded of all, the disruption of the nap schedule. (Parents of toddlers are nodding furiously in recognition here, knowing all too well how one badly timed nap can throw an entire household into chaos.)
I was convinced by these arguments. So, for the past five years, all the food we eat at home has come from our local food coop or a local community-supported farm in which we are shareholders. The result for our two kids -- Faith is now six and her brother Elijah almost four -- is that they have never been advertised to. The images, jingles, and pitches of the food industry have, by and large, never reached them. Their food preferences have, consequently, been entirely shaped by their direct experience with the food itself and the farmers who grow it.
No cartoon characters stare at them from boxes of presweetened cereals displayed at pediatric eye level in supermarket aisles. No candy bars wait in the checkout lane, ready to spark a parent-child battle of wills. No television commercials seduce them with pictures of crispy chips and bubbly colas.
I realize that my children are only a sample size of two. But because their commercially unmediated relationship to food is so unfortunately rare, it seems worthwhile to report on what they like to eat. Both my kids ask for sweet potatoes, baked with maple syrup drizzled on top, as bedtime snacks. Neither of them cares for soft drinks ("Too spicy," says my son). Both like almost any kind of vegetable, and are particularly fond of kale (with sesame seeds and tamari sauce), broccoli, and peas. Elijah has a special enthusiasm for avocados and cole slaw. Both are willing to try new foods, but Faith has the more adventurous palate. Elijah prefers to stick to the tried and true; he is big on eggs, beans, toast with olive oil, and any kind of soup.
Both of them cycle through food aversions in ways that seem fickle and irrational. One week Faith suddenly proclaims that she hates bananas and always will. The next week, she complains that there are no bananas. Elijah announces that tomatoes are detestable. A few days later, tomatoes are okay again. But no raisins! (Jeff and I treat these sudden-onset reversals of preference respectfully but casually.) Black and green olives, on the other hand, are always desirable, as are brown rice, tofu, red peppers, chickpeas, and corn. Watermelon is the ambrosia of the household, closely followed by cantaloupe, strawberries, and cherries. Apples are a staple.
It also seems worth reporting the following story: About a year ago, while traveling with Elijah and Faith, I was delayed in Chicago’s O’Hare airport for several hours. We ran out of snacks. Forbidden from leaving the gate area -- the problem was alleged to be a computer glitch that could be resolved at any moment -- I looked around for something to eat. The only vendor within earshot of the gate was McDonald’s. And that is where we went. Well, this is a watershed moment in parenting, I thought, as I handed each of my hungry children a little red and yellow sack, warm with food.
They hated it.
"Too spicy," said Elijah.
I urged him to eat it anyway; we wouldn’t be home for another four hours.
"Look, Mama," Faith shot back. "Look at their sign."
I looked over at the big yellow "M" to which she was pointing.
"Even their name is made out of limp French fries," she asserted. "Why would you want to eat their food?"
That’s when I realized that she didn’t see the world-famous logo as golden arches at all. No one had ever told her that’s what it was supposed to be. To her, the M in McDonald’s looked like two yellow, bent-over fries. Yuck.
Faith has already begun school, and Elijah will follow her in another year. I know that their innocent, unpropagandized view of food will change once they spend some time at the lunchroom table, comparing the contents of their lunchboxes with those of their friends, hearing other comments, encountering other habits. I can hope that some remnants of the habits and tastes that they’ve developed so far will remain, but I’d like to do more than just hope. Already, Faith has noticed that many of her school friends, as well as characters in books, have disparaging things to say about spinach.
"I guess children don’t like spinach," she observed. And then she added, "but I am a child who does!"
This essay by Sandra Steingraber is taken from Thinking outside the
Lunchbox, an essay series of the Center for Ecoliteracy, ecoliteracy.orga> © Copyright 2005
Center for Ecoliteracy. All rights reserved. Printed with permission.
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Posted by: Colin on Jun 20, 2006 1:43 AM
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What would be interesting is a follow up in 15 years to know how the kiddies bodies were doing in relation to their piers. I remember reading in Steven Pinker's 'The Blank Slate', an analogy regarding two seeds of corn. One was planted in fertile soil and one in dodgy ground. The well tended soil obviously grew straight and tall whereas the other withered it's way towards the sunlight. The point I'm making is that the children will have lived their life (presumably from conception given the efforts the author has gone through) in 'healthy soil' and should grow, to use the cliche, strong and true but, of course, without a follow up we'll never know.
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Posted by: Farmertim on Jun 20, 2006 5:16 AM
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What really hit home for me is that my daughter spent little time in her early years with her mother, who used Tv as a sitter. The christmas lists of those years were extensive and of the latest items offered.
As she spent less time in front of the tube and now hardly ever, and more outside with me the Christmas lists now include things that will inhance her play outside or art supplies.
She still goes to school with the hoards of little consumers, catches grief about here cold lumch and contents, but at age 10 can understand the reason for the the other kids time outs, trips to the office and can keep track of the kids sick days for she has yet to have one in 5 years....
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Posted by: fool-on-the-hill on Jun 20, 2006 7:44 AM
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His outburst wasn't the source of my delight, though. That came from the expression on the face of a woman in front of us, who turned slowly to gaze at my grandson with an expression of mingled fear and incredulity! It was hilarious. She obviously thought the child must be a space alien masquerading as a human boy. Har!
Of course, my grandson was somewhat disappointed in the Brussels sprouts. He was remembering how they tasted fresh from the garden.
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Posted by: mysticalrae on Jun 20, 2006 8:54 AM
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We dealt with the advertising ploys in this way: all tv, newspapers, and magizines were viewed as just plain entertainment, news and all. I spent many hours viewing movies and listening to their new music with them. Nothing was forbidden to enter our home in the way of music, books or magazines, but all had to be viewed with Mom. I made a point of using this time to teach the reality behind the ads and promotions, the gimmicks on TV, the drivel being fed to us in the form of news, and the lyrics on the music. We discussed it all, and I was able to help them avoid being hypnotised by the industries, and to think for themselves, carefully considering their intellectual and emotional responses to each thing. They became highly intelligent and aware, and live very simple lives, with few health problems. It was a matter of pointing out, over and over to them as children, you are in charge of your own life. Don't give the responsibility of that over to anyone, not your government, not your doctor, not to advertisers. Recognize that they all have an agenda, and it may or may not be to your best interest to follow it, you choose. I see them choosing food wisely, not being absolute purists, but carefully considering their bodies needs in the process.
As for my own self, after a lifetime of training my sons, I have benefited greatly. At 55, I went to have a minor surgery done after an injury, and found myself having a physical for the first time in years, complete with joint xrays and blood work-ups. The physician, after reading all of the reports, examining me and looking at all of the work-ups, exclaimed, "if you weren't sitting here in front of me, I would think I was looking at the tests of a 25 year-old! Of course, you must take good care of yourself."
And that's it, folks. Be conscious of your bodies and what you put into them. Be aware of the need for simplicity and awareness about foods, and above all, love your own bodies. They are your gift in this lifetime. Blessings!
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Posted by: mazamudi on Jun 20, 2006 9:32 AM
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Posted by: Conservativation on Jun 20, 2006 9:43 AM
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Where are the people who feel this kind of isolation of children is horrible when it is done by Christian homeschoolers? Why is it ok to create idealogical automotons and food nazis but not regarding other value matters.?
Eating healthy food is great, who could argue, but it really is possible to live in the world AND eat healthy! We don't have to become a sort of Martgha Stewart on steroids starting with a rock and a stick and fashioning our home, food, entertainment and everything from these implements.
Someone made a good comment earlier. Why worry about the evidence being anecdotal? Doesnt everyone base their beliefs on that anyway?
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Posted by: kerikeifer on Jun 20, 2006 9:50 AM
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that's garbage.
i grew up in a sprawling suburb of chicago...every grocery store we went to was a chain...we had a television...i was highly involved with other kids and was well aware of junk food and the like...
but my mother cooked. she took time at least several nights a week to chop up vegetables and drizzle olive oil in skillets and roast chicken in the oven...and she *was* a working woman with two children and a husband...she still made time.
now, as an adult, i have a very healthy relationship to food. i've made the decision to move to oakland, california...where an idyllic lifestyle is possible in terms of food consumption...and i'm convinced that my mother's efforts to make time for cooking and appreciation of food are the reasons i developed the way i did.
it's not just a matter of removing a TV or telling your kids that carrots are healthy or popping an apple in their lunchbox. it's slowing down from the harried pace...getting into the kitchen with them...letting them help out....and making cooking a part of their lifestyle that will *really* determine their ability to wade through the mess of junk food that will undoubtedly barrage them throughout life.
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Posted by: eastcoker on Jun 20, 2006 10:30 AM
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Well let me back up a minute. My mom has a BA in Nutrition and worked as a Dietician for a while. I grew up in health food stores in San Francisco and on home cooked meals. Now that I am a mother it is the same thing. I don't own a tv and rarely read "commerical" magazines so my daughter is totally unpropagandized, but man, is she finicky! Last night I made her "sweet beans" and she rejected them. Great, 8-10 servings of "sweet beans" for me.
Anyways, I am really happy you wrote about this. Kids and food is definitely a potential battle of wills and *should not be*. My daughter won't eat when it's served and then says "I'm hungry" when it's time to take a bath and then again when it's time for bed. Talk about ***willful***, she takes the cake...
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Posted by: sphoenix on Jun 20, 2006 12:16 PM
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I can't tell you how hard it is to find reliable information about food and health...western medicine doesn't know shit about diet and the media just magnifies their ignorance.
What I have discovered, as I have been learning to grow my own organic food, is that we have been LIED to on a level that is almost almost unbelievable, if I hadn't lived through it myself. At the age of 47 I am working on preventing the downward health spiral that most Americans will experience...and the predominant reason for that spiral is FOOD. Commercial processed food is poisoning our country...both through unsustainable farming practices and by processing the nutritional value right out of it. The food at the grocery store is absolute crap! The produce is non-nutritious and virtually flavorless...then there is my organic garden. The flavors of real food...no processing other than cutting it and washing it. Greens that are tender and sweet...not tasteless with the texture of shoe leather. I know where it comes from and what I used to grow it. It is healthy, green, and flavorful...
Had I known 20 years ago what I am learning now, I would have the body of a 30 year old now! I am heathier now than I have ever been in my life...and it's never too late to start. Take baby steps...turn off the TV...slow down...learn to cook again...it takes time and effort to do it, but the rewards will be reaped in your health...which will save you pain and money as you age...fewer visits to the doctor 'cause your body is working correctly...'cause your not eating the slow acting poisons called processed food.
I'm not trying to promote any other agenda other than telling you that there is another way to eat...the old way, the original way. Mankind has only been eating like this for about 50 years...our corporate food supply is killing us. Go back to the dirt...
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Posted by: rwa on Jun 20, 2006 3:05 PM
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Posted by: aussidawg on Jun 20, 2006 3:18 PM
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One movie that made a really big impact on me was "Supersize Me". I witnessed the DEVASTATING health effects from eating McDonald's food for a month and had to wonder what, if any, boundaries are left in the quest of a buck. If this stuff has all of these ill effects on a grown man, what the hell is it doing to our kids? And we wonder why we have such rampant obesity and diabetes in children.
It would seem that in a society that says it values its children so much, we could at least make an effort such as the parents in the article, and take the time and make the effort to at least feed them something other than a McDeath meal, whose only value is to bring in a profit to a corporation that cares nothing about its patrons. Remember, you are what you eat and that applies to your children too!
Note: I'm not after McDonalds in particular, rather ALL fast food franchises that peddle this poison they call food.
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Posted by: mtngoat on Jun 20, 2006 3:30 PM
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Again, bravo to all the dietary enlightenment expressed here.
I think a lot you would be interested in Michael Pollan's book The Omnivore's Dilemma and Jane Goodall's Harvest for Hope: a guide to mindful eating. Check them out.
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Posted by: Bimbeot on Jun 20, 2006 7:44 PM
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How many kids are diagnosed with behavior problems because of the unnatural factory and corporate foods we are being sold?
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Posted by: aruffo on Jun 20, 2006 10:33 PM
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Yes, I have an axe to grind-- of late, I've been amazed that the majority of parents don't even seem to realize, much less understand, that schooling is a choice. John Gatto likens compulsory schooling to kidnapping, and he calls schools "jails for children"; the crazy thing is that whenever I mention this to parents, their immediate response is to strongly reject and skeptically challenge everything I say against schooling-- but in a very short time, they will remember plenty of incidents and facts from their own experiences which blatantly support the points they had just unthinkingly dismissed. By the time we're done talking they're usually almost fearful in their awe of the bizarre idea that children actually don't have to go to school.
I've read other articles on AlterNet that demonstrate the same peculiar contradiction-- the parent-author explicitly acknowledges that school is harmful for their children, but it never even enters their heads that the damage could be avoided.
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Posted by: TerryS on Jun 22, 2006 11:43 PM
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Unfortunately when our kids were growing up, we did
have a TV which they watched. And or course they were
clamoring for McDonald's. My husband especially is not
a fan of McDonald's and made a point of reframing the
issue by asking "you want to go to McWeasils?" or
"you want to go to McLarvae's?" this seemed to do the
trick, at least in this particular instance.
"I realize that my children are only a sample size
of two."
There are parrallels with this Stanford study:
http://news-service.stanford.edu/news
/1999/may5/tvweight-55.html
"A Stanford study suggests that, for grade-school
children, watching less television may be a key to
limiting weight gain. Children who were involved
in a one-year curriculum to reduce their TV viewing
gained significantly less body fat than a control
group of their peers."
http://www.tvsmarter.com
http://www.trashyourtv.com/node
http://www.whitedot.org
http://www.turnoffyourtv.com
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Posted by: heathashli on Oct 22, 2006 9:18 AM
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Broccoli has almost twice as much protein.
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Posted by: Colin on Jun 20, 2006 1:43 AM
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What would be interesting is a follow up in 15 years to know how the kiddies bodies were doing in relation to their piers. I remember reading in Steven Pinker's 'The Blank Slate', an analogy regarding two seeds of corn. One was planted in fertile soil and one in dodgy ground. The well tended soil obviously grew straight and tall whereas the other withered it's way towards the sunlight. The point I'm making is that the children will have lived their life (presumably from conception given the efforts the author has gone through) in 'healthy soil' and should grow, to use the cliche, strong and true but, of course, without a follow up we'll never know.
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Posted by: Farmertim on Jun 20, 2006 5:16 AM
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What really hit home for me is that my daughter spent little time in her early years with her mother, who used Tv as a sitter. The christmas lists of those years were extensive and of the latest items offered.
As she spent less time in front of the tube and now hardly ever, and more outside with me the Christmas lists now include things that will inhance her play outside or art supplies.
She still goes to school with the hoards of little consumers, catches grief about here cold lumch and contents, but at age 10 can understand the reason for the the other kids time outs, trips to the office and can keep track of the kids sick days for she has yet to have one in 5 years....
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Posted by: mamadanc on Jun 20, 2006 7:43 AM
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Posted by: fool-on-the-hill on Jun 20, 2006 7:44 AM
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His outburst wasn't the source of my delight, though. That came from the expression on the face of a woman in front of us, who turned slowly to gaze at my grandson with an expression of mingled fear and incredulity! It was hilarious. She obviously thought the child must be a space alien masquerading as a human boy. Har!
Of course, my grandson was somewhat disappointed in the Brussels sprouts. He was remembering how they tasted fresh from the garden.
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Posted by: mysticalrae on Jun 20, 2006 8:54 AM
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We dealt with the advertising ploys in this way: all tv, newspapers, and magizines were viewed as just plain entertainment, news and all. I spent many hours viewing movies and listening to their new music with them. Nothing was forbidden to enter our home in the way of music, books or magazines, but all had to be viewed with Mom. I made a point of using this time to teach the reality behind the ads and promotions, the gimmicks on TV, the drivel being fed to us in the form of news, and the lyrics on the music. We discussed it all, and I was able to help them avoid being hypnotised by the industries, and to think for themselves, carefully considering their intellectual and emotional responses to each thing. They became highly intelligent and aware, and live very simple lives, with few health problems. It was a matter of pointing out, over and over to them as children, you are in charge of your own life. Don't give the responsibility of that over to anyone, not your government, not your doctor, not to advertisers. Recognize that they all have an agenda, and it may or may not be to your best interest to follow it, you choose. I see them choosing food wisely, not being absolute purists, but carefully considering their bodies needs in the process.
As for my own self, after a lifetime of training my sons, I have benefited greatly. At 55, I went to have a minor surgery done after an injury, and found myself having a physical for the first time in years, complete with joint xrays and blood work-ups. The physician, after reading all of the reports, examining me and looking at all of the work-ups, exclaimed, "if you weren't sitting here in front of me, I would think I was looking at the tests of a 25 year-old! Of course, you must take good care of yourself."
And that's it, folks. Be conscious of your bodies and what you put into them. Be aware of the need for simplicity and awareness about foods, and above all, love your own bodies. They are your gift in this lifetime. Blessings!
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Posted by: mazamudi on Jun 20, 2006 9:32 AM
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Posted by: Conservativation on Jun 20, 2006 9:43 AM
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Where are the people who feel this kind of isolation of children is horrible when it is done by Christian homeschoolers? Why is it ok to create idealogical automotons and food nazis but not regarding other value matters.?
Eating healthy food is great, who could argue, but it really is possible to live in the world AND eat healthy! We don't have to become a sort of Martgha Stewart on steroids starting with a rock and a stick and fashioning our home, food, entertainment and everything from these implements.
Someone made a good comment earlier. Why worry about the evidence being anecdotal? Doesnt everyone base their beliefs on that anyway?
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Posted by: kerikeifer on Jun 20, 2006 9:50 AM
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that's garbage.
i grew up in a sprawling suburb of chicago...every grocery store we went to was a chain...we had a television...i was highly involved with other kids and was well aware of junk food and the like...
but my mother cooked. she took time at least several nights a week to chop up vegetables and drizzle olive oil in skillets and roast chicken in the oven...and she *was* a working woman with two children and a husband...she still made time.
now, as an adult, i have a very healthy relationship to food. i've made the decision to move to oakland, california...where an idyllic lifestyle is possible in terms of food consumption...and i'm convinced that my mother's efforts to make time for cooking and appreciation of food are the reasons i developed the way i did.
it's not just a matter of removing a TV or telling your kids that carrots are healthy or popping an apple in their lunchbox. it's slowing down from the harried pace...getting into the kitchen with them...letting them help out....and making cooking a part of their lifestyle that will *really* determine their ability to wade through the mess of junk food that will undoubtedly barrage them throughout life.
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Posted by: eastcoker on Jun 20, 2006 10:30 AM
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Well let me back up a minute. My mom has a BA in Nutrition and worked as a Dietician for a while. I grew up in health food stores in San Francisco and on home cooked meals. Now that I am a mother it is the same thing. I don't own a tv and rarely read "commerical" magazines so my daughter is totally unpropagandized, but man, is she finicky! Last night I made her "sweet beans" and she rejected them. Great, 8-10 servings of "sweet beans" for me.
Anyways, I am really happy you wrote about this. Kids and food is definitely a potential battle of wills and *should not be*. My daughter won't eat when it's served and then says "I'm hungry" when it's time to take a bath and then again when it's time for bed. Talk about ***willful***, she takes the cake...
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Posted by: sphoenix on Jun 20, 2006 12:16 PM
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I can't tell you how hard it is to find reliable information about food and health...western medicine doesn't know shit about diet and the media just magnifies their ignorance.
What I have discovered, as I have been learning to grow my own organic food, is that we have been LIED to on a level that is almost almost unbelievable, if I hadn't lived through it myself. At the age of 47 I am working on preventing the downward health spiral that most Americans will experience...and the predominant reason for that spiral is FOOD. Commercial processed food is poisoning our country...both through unsustainable farming practices and by processing the nutritional value right out of it. The food at the grocery store is absolute crap! The produce is non-nutritious and virtually flavorless...then there is my organic garden. The flavors of real food...no processing other than cutting it and washing it. Greens that are tender and sweet...not tasteless with the texture of shoe leather. I know where it comes from and what I used to grow it. It is healthy, green, and flavorful...
Had I known 20 years ago what I am learning now, I would have the body of a 30 year old now! I am heathier now than I have ever been in my life...and it's never too late to start. Take baby steps...turn off the TV...slow down...learn to cook again...it takes time and effort to do it, but the rewards will be reaped in your health...which will save you pain and money as you age...fewer visits to the doctor 'cause your body is working correctly...'cause your not eating the slow acting poisons called processed food.
I'm not trying to promote any other agenda other than telling you that there is another way to eat...the old way, the original way. Mankind has only been eating like this for about 50 years...our corporate food supply is killing us. Go back to the dirt...
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Posted by: rwa on Jun 20, 2006 3:05 PM
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Posted by: aussidawg on Jun 20, 2006 3:18 PM
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One movie that made a really big impact on me was "Supersize Me". I witnessed the DEVASTATING health effects from eating McDonald's food for a month and had to wonder what, if any, boundaries are left in the quest of a buck. If this stuff has all of these ill effects on a grown man, what the hell is it doing to our kids? And we wonder why we have such rampant obesity and diabetes in children.
It would seem that in a society that says it values its children so much, we could at least make an effort such as the parents in the article, and take the time and make the effort to at least feed them something other than a McDeath meal, whose only value is to bring in a profit to a corporation that cares nothing about its patrons. Remember, you are what you eat and that applies to your children too!
Note: I'm not after McDonalds in particular, rather ALL fast food franchises that peddle this poison they call food.
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Posted by: mtngoat on Jun 20, 2006 3:30 PM
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Again, bravo to all the dietary enlightenment expressed here.
I think a lot you would be interested in Michael Pollan's book The Omnivore's Dilemma and Jane Goodall's Harvest for Hope: a guide to mindful eating. Check them out.
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Posted by: Bimbeot on Jun 20, 2006 7:44 PM
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How many kids are diagnosed with behavior problems because of the unnatural factory and corporate foods we are being sold?
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Posted by: aruffo on Jun 20, 2006 10:33 PM
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Yes, I have an axe to grind-- of late, I've been amazed that the majority of parents don't even seem to realize, much less understand, that schooling is a choice. John Gatto likens compulsory schooling to kidnapping, and he calls schools "jails for children"; the crazy thing is that whenever I mention this to parents, their immediate response is to strongly reject and skeptically challenge everything I say against schooling-- but in a very short time, they will remember plenty of incidents and facts from their own experiences which blatantly support the points they had just unthinkingly dismissed. By the time we're done talking they're usually almost fearful in their awe of the bizarre idea that children actually don't have to go to school.
I've read other articles on AlterNet that demonstrate the same peculiar contradiction-- the parent-author explicitly acknowledges that school is harmful for their children, but it never even enters their heads that the damage could be avoided.
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Posted by: janyo on Jun 22, 2006 9:29 AM
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Posted by: TerryS on Jun 22, 2006 11:43 PM
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Unfortunately when our kids were growing up, we did
have a TV which they watched. And or course they were
clamoring for McDonald's. My husband especially is not
a fan of McDonald's and made a point of reframing the
issue by asking "you want to go to McWeasils?" or
"you want to go to McLarvae's?" this seemed to do the
trick, at least in this particular instance.
"I realize that my children are only a sample size
of two."
There are parrallels with this Stanford study:
http://news-service.stanford.edu/news
/1999/may5/tvweight-55.html
"A Stanford study suggests that, for grade-school
children, watching less television may be a key to
limiting weight gain. Children who were involved
in a one-year curriculum to reduce their TV viewing
gained significantly less body fat than a control
group of their peers."
http://www.tvsmarter.com
http://www.trashyourtv.com/node
http://www.whitedot.org
http://www.turnoffyourtv.com
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Posted by: heathashli on Oct 22, 2006 9:18 AM
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Broccoli has almost twice as much protein.
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