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America's Eating Disorder

By Blair Golson, Truthdig. Posted April 19, 2006.


Journalist Michael Pollan talks about fixing our industrial food system, what being a conscientious carnivore means, and how we can really eat healthily.
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It became obvious to journalist Michael Pollan in the summer of 2002 that America had a national eating disorder. That July, The New York Times Magazine published an article titled "What if It's All Been a Big Fat Lie?" which reported that a growing number of respected nutritional researchers were beginning to conclude that perhaps Dr. Robert Atkins had been right all along: Carbohydrates, not fats, were the cause of America's obesity problem.

Almost overnight, in Pollan's estimation, bakeries went out of business, dinner rolls in New York restaurants went the way of the pterodactyl, and pasta became regarded as a toxin.

"These foods were wonderful staples of human life for thousands of years," Pollan told Truthdig, "and suddenly we've decided that they're evil. Any culture that could change its diet on a dime like that is suffering from an eating disorder, as far as I can see."

Pollan was well placed to make such an observation. The previous year, he had published a critically acclaimed, best-selling book called The Botany of Desire, an examination of humans' relationships to plants, and how plants shape human societies as much as we shape them. His writings on the natural world and food stretch back to the late 1980s. Early in his career, he was an editor at Harper's magazine, and since 1995 he has been a contributing editor at The New York Times Magazine. Over the years he won a gaggle of writing awards and fellowships from environmental, food and journalistic organizations, in addition to publishing two other books, on gardening and architecture.

So when Atkins-mania achieved terminal velocity in the summer of 2002, Pollan started to wonder whether it wasn't time to ask some fundamental questions about a country so apparently susceptible to the whims of a fad diet. Pulling together the threads of stories he had written in the past decade on topics ranging from the ethics of vegetarianism to the dangers of over-reliance on corn, Pollan set off on a journey to answer a deceptively sophisticated question: "What should we have for dinner?"

The search for an answer found expression in Pollan's just-published book The Omnivore's Dilemma. The title refers to the quandary faced by animals like humans (and rats and cockroaches) that, in order to stay alive, must choose from the bewildering array of edible and non-edible substances. We can eat a lot, but what should we eat?

The subtitle of his book is "A Natural History of Four Meals," which is Pollan's way of describing his exploration of four types of food that eventually terminate in some kind of human meal: food that he himself grew and hunted; organic or "alternative" food (found at farmer's markets); industrial-organic foods (much of the stock at Whole Foods); and industrial, or processed, food (the snack or cereal aisles at Safeway). Through this series of "food detective stories," the author found things to cheer and things to fear about the ethical, biological and ecological ramifications of the American way of eating.

Truthdig managing editor Blair Golson recently spoke with Pollan from his home in Northern California, where he is the Knight Professor of Journalism at UC Berkeley's Graduate School of Journalism. He discussed how the omnivore's dilemma had returned in the unlikeliest of places; the truth about so-called "free range" chickens; and how in the world food manufacturers can get away with labels that read: "This product may contain one or more of the following…."

Blair Golson: The omnivore's dilemma is typically associated with animals in the wild that have to choose between food that will either nurture or kill them. What's the relevance of the term to modern human society?

Michael Pollan: Out in nature, if you're a creature looking for something to eat, you might see some attractive looking red berries and think to yourself, "I wonder if I can eat those without getting sick? And what about those mushrooms?" Well, the same thing is happening in the supermarket. There are many tasty things, some of which can kill you. Trans fats, for example, or all the sugar we're eating.

So we're back where we were once upon a time, trying to navigate a treacherous food landscape -- full of attractive things, but some of which are liable to shorten our lives.

BG: Is that what prompted you to write the book?

MP: It was a gathering sense that Americans -- myself included -- had gotten deeply confused and worried about what they were eating and unsure where to turn. To read the newspaper over the last couple of years is to read one story after another that makes you wonder if the way you've been eating all these years is such a good idea -- for yourself or the planet or the animals.

Just reading the coverage of mad cow disease was an incredible educational experience. For example, we read that you've got to stop feeding cows to cows. It's like, "What? We've been feeding cows to cows?" And we've got to tighten up those rules about feeding chicken litter to cows. "We've been feeding chicken crap to cows?"

If you read those stories, it made me realize that the system by which we're producing our food is not one I feel very good about participating in. So I began looking into the food chain and alternatives to the main industrial food chain -- doing what I think of as a series of food detective stories, and much of what I learned in these detective stories was astonishing to me, and forced me to re-approach the way I shop for food and go about eating it.

BG: Like facing up to the realities of shopping at Whole Foods?

MP: Yeah, I use the term "supermarket pastoral" for the experience of shopping in a place like that. Whole Foods, they're brilliant storytellers. You walk into that store, and it just looks like a beautiful garden, and there are pictures of organic farmers up on the walls, and little labels that describe how the cow lived that became your milk or your beef, and the cage-free vegetarian hens who got to free range.

They're creating in your minds an image of a farm very much like the ones in the books you read as children -- with a diversity of happy animals wandering around the farmyard. It's very cleverly designed, but unfortunately like a lot of pastoral forms of art, it's based on illusions. Not entirely, but if you go to the farm depicted on those labels, you find that in fact, things look a little bit different. Organic milk might be coming from a dry organic feedlot where 500 cows are milling around and never get to eat a blade of grass. I have a feeling that's not what the consumer thinks they're getting.

BG: Does the same thing go for free-range chickens and eggs?

MP: It's very interesting. Free-range chickens -- I did go visit a large organic chicken producer here in California, and if you look at their label, there's a farmstead with a little silo and a farm house and a farmyard and chickens running around, but if you go to the farm, the chickens are grown in these huge barracks as long as a football field. They're indoors, there are 20,000 of them in a house, and running along this barrack is what looks like a little front lawn -- mowed, maybe 15 or 20 feet deep.

There's a little door at either side of the barrack where, theoretically, chickens could step outside and take the air. But they don't. One reason is that the doors are closed until the chickens are about five weeks old. The farmers -- if you can use that word, the managers -- are concerned that the chickens might catch their death of cold or pick up a germ, so they don't open the doors until the chickens are five weeks old.

They smother them at seven weeks; so it's not exactly a lifestyle. It's more like a two-week vacation option. And the chickens don't avail themselves of this option because they've never been outside before. They're terrified of going outside. First of all, it's not big enough for the whole flock. Second of all, the food and water is inside; they're not used to it; they weren't brought up this way.

They're like the cat in the Manhattan apartment; when you open the door they just stand there in terror wondering about the other dimension of reality outside that door. Free range is a conceit. It's to make us feel better about these chickens. It's not doing anything for the chickens, as far as I can tell.

Yes, that organic chicken is still a better product, I think. It's getting better feed, it's got a few more inches of legroom than a conventional chicken, but it's not all it's cracked up to be.

BG: And hence your efforts to find places that were all they were cracked up to be…

MP: I went looking for a better model of farming -- a truly biological or ecological farm. They are out there. There are people doing amazing, visionary work. And the one I chose to focus on is a farm called Polyface. And it's run by a man named Joel Salatin and his son, Daniel. They grow six different animals on 100 acres of open land and another 400 of forest. And they do it in this very intricate rotation, so that on one day, the cows are on a pasture.

Then they wait a couple of days and the chickens come in. They eat all of the grubs out of the manure, which takes care of the farm's problem with flies and disease, and they spread that manure in the process of doing that, and they fertilize it with their own manure to keep the pastures very healthy.

Then the chickens move out and another animal moves in. This rotation going through the farm several times every season, and the result is a great deal of high-quality food, but also, most astoundingly of all, an improvement in the environment of this farm. There is more top soil, more grass, more fertility than there would be if nothing were being done here.

That is a very significant achievement, because it belies this basic American idea that our relationship with nature is a zero sum game -- by which we all assume that for us to get what we want from nature, nature is diminished. This farm is saying, "No, that is not necessarily true. There is a way to get your food from the earth in such a way that it leaves the earth improved."

To me, that's an incredibly heartening message; it says we're not this pest species in nature, that we really have a contribution to make.

BG: Is there any evidence to suggest that that model is spreading?

MP: It's not about to take over American agriculture, but there's a very strong movement to put animals back on grass, get them off of feed lots, and sell grass-finished meat. Grass-fed beef is growing very quickly, and I find it a very hopeful development.

BG: But didn't you write that places like Polyface can't ever hope to make money supplying the biggies like Wal-Mart or Whole Foods because those places only buy from mega farms?

MP: You have to get out of the supermarket, basically. The supermarket is not going to support this world in the long run, I don't think. But the supermarket is not the only place to buy your food. There are very many good alternatives -- the farmers' market being the most obvious. But also CSAs -- which stands for community-supported agriculture -- where you essentially join a farm and every week you get a box of produce. People are buying really good grass-fed meat over the Internet.

BG: If you're someone living in a major metropolitan city, and you wanted to eat in the healthiest way, patronizing the most ecologically friendly food purveyors -- setting aside cost for the moment -- how would you shop?

MP: I am that person. I've joined a CSA, so I get a box of produce every week. I also go to the farmers' market. I have found some producers of things like beef that I buy in quantity and keep in my freezer. But I also find grass-finished beef -- I'm kind of lucky here in Northern California -- I can find it in local markets. So I do a little bit of many different things. And it's a little easier to do here in California than in others places. Our farmers' markets are open 12 months a year, and that isn't true everywhere.

But I also get on the Internet and find interesting food. There are terrific websites. There's the Eat Well Guide, where you put in your ZIP code and it tells you about local farms doing interesting things. The other thing to do is to visit local farms and establish a personal connection, if you have the time and the inclination. I find that incredibly interesting. I like knowing farmers who are growing my food.

But all of us are going to take this to different degrees. I don't think it's all or nothing. I still go to the Safeway. I still stop at Whole Foods every now and then. And many people don't have the time or inclination to put any more work into it, and so maybe Whole Foods is fine, and maybe they've got a lot of money, because Whole Foods is really expensive. And that helps. The kind of farming that Whole Foods supports is better than conventional farming.

All I'm suggesting is that you can take it to the next step if you want. And the next step is incredibly rewarding, because the quality of the food is so high, and the kind of stewardship going on is very impressive.

But like I said, it's not all or nothing. We have three food votes every day -- that's more votes than we have in most other aspects of our lives. And if you used one of them in a way that supported a change -- an alternative food chain, that's a big accomplishment. That's enough to create these alternatives and make them more accessible and probably cheaper as well, as more people use them. You can go whole hog or just dip your toes in, but either way, I think it's a very important food vote you have.

BG: Sure, we have votes; but as a society, we seem to vote most often for fad diets. Why are Americans in particular so susceptible to those kinds of appeals?

MP: I think it is because we're not anchored by a single, stable food culture, that we're really vulnerable to messages from marketers, messages from scientists, and we're willing to throw it all out every few years.

BG: What do you mean a "stable food culture"? Do you mean the immigrant, melting-pot aspect of America?

MP: Yeah. Since we didn't have one national kind of cuisine, and one sort of eating rules, the result has been a diluted food culture that is much more vulnerable to marketing. If we had a stable food culture that had a consistent set of answers about, "This is what you eat, and this is how you eat it," I think we'd be much less vulnerable to a news article saying, "Fat is good, carb is bad."

BG: But surely there's more to the erosion of a healthy food culture than our immigrant roots?

MP: The food marketers deserve a lot of the blame for this. When you sell a product like Go-Gurt, or a nonfood like this new stuff called "Gu" -- which is a pure nutrients in a gel that athletes are supposed to use, but that kids are taking in their lunch boxes -- you're destroying something.

You're destroying the idea of people eating together. If you're selling products designed to go in the cup holder, you are, not intentionally, but effectively destroying the idea of people sitting at a table across from one another and eating. We don't eat together as families nearly as much as we once did. Twenty percent of meals are now eaten in the car. Food marketers are barraging us with messages about what we should eat.

New food products are redefining the eating experience. Your great-grandmother wouldn't recognize a Pop Tart or a tube of Go-Gurt, or know what to do with it. So we've changed the way we eat more in the last 50 years than probably in the thousand years before that -- at every level: in the farm, but also in the market. So all this has contributed to this confusion about what we should eat. Of course, because before you figure out what you should eat, you need to figure out what you are eating.

BG: Which, it turns out, is a ton of corn. Literally. You write that each of us is responsible for eating approximately a ton of corn per year. How could that be?

MP: Most of it is hidden from view, because most of that corn is passed through animals first. We eat corn in the form of chickens and pork and beef and eggs and milk. Almost all the rest of it is highly processed. It's in chicken McNuggets. Not just in the chicken, but in 13 out of the 38 ingredients there -- the additives, the various corn starches, the various oils, the oil it's fried in. It's kind of a hidden food chain. And it's not just corn. There's a lot of soybean in our food, too.

But the way our food system works, is we take these very simple commodity crops -- that the government heavily subsidizes, by the way -- and we break them down into their constituent molecules, and then we reassemble them in the form of proteins, carbohydrates and fats in highly processed foods: snack foods, chicken nuggets, Coca-Cola. We eat something like 56 pounds of high-fructose corn syrup sweetener every year.

When you're drinking that soda, you're really drinking quite a bit of corn. So we should worship the corn plant, because that's what's supporting us right now. We don't, because we don't realize we're eating it. The Mayans, who called themselves the corn people, had a healthier sense of their indebtedness to this one plant.

BG: What are the ramifications of relying so heavily upon one crop?

MP: The last people to rely so heavily upon one crop were the Irish in the 19th century who ate potatoes and nothing else. This wasn't very good for their health, and when the potato crop failed in 1845, a million of them died. In general, it's a really bad idea to put all your eggs in one basket.

Nature doesn't work that way, and we are leaving ourselves open to risk from the devastation of the corn crop from some new microbe or terrorism. As a health matter, we're omnivores. We do need those 50 or so different chemical nutrients, and you're not going to get them from processed corn. Processed corn is the building block of the fast food diet.

And that diet, we're learning, is leaving us mal-nourished, even as it makes us fat. There are kids showing up in clinics in Oakland with rickets -- very well-fed, over-fed kids who are suffering from nutrient deficiencies. That's from eating too much processed corn.

BG: Do you think we need new rules applied to food labeling? Either from the government, or maybe from the industry itself? Are labels the answer?

MP: I think labels are important. They are a substitute for people actually being able to meet farmers and go to farms. But I think there are a lot of other changes at the federal level that would help. Our food system is not a creation of the free market. It's a combination of a set of rules combined with the market. And those rules are dictating the fact that, for example, cheap corn and soybeans are the predominant ingredients in our food supply.

Because we subsidize those calories, we end up with a supermarket in which the least healthy calories are the cheapest. And the most healthy calories are the most expensive. That, in the simplest terms, is the root of the obesity epidemic for the poor -- because the obesity epidemic is really a class-based problem. It's not an epidemic, really. The biggest prediction of obesity is income.

BG: You write about resistant starch, a new starch from corn that is virtually indigestible, which means it goes through the digestive track without breaking down and turning into glucose. Does this mean it doesn't add any calories to our waistline?

MP: That's right. This has been the holy grail of food science for a while: to allow people to eat endlessly without getting full or fat.

BG: So how do you feel about this new substance at first blush?

MP: I think it's a crazy idea. In the same way Olestra was a crazy idea. Olestra was an oil that passes through your system, but people rejected it because of other things it did to your system. Did you ever read the warning label on Olestra? It warns of anal leakage. I find this very unappetizing. This is going to be a very novel food; and we don't know what it's doing to us.

The food we have, the food we have had, is perfectly fine. I get an enormous amount of pleasure in eating the carbs that are already out there. I don't think we need this. I think this serves the food marketers more than us. I suppose for obese people looking to lose weight, it'll be useful to them. But sell it with a prescription.

BG: We gotta ask: Why do ingredients labels say, "This product may contain one or more of the following…" How can the manufacturers be unclear about something like that?

MP: They're not unclear. What they're doing is keeping their options open. So that on a given day, they can use any fat -- they could switch from soy to cottonseed to corn oil, depending on today's market conditions. That symbolizes a food that is highly processed. The reason you process food is so that you're not highly dependent on any one raw ingredient, and you want to be as far removed from dependence on the corn market or soy market as possible. You engineer your foods so you could substitute any one ingredient for another.

BG: After all you've seen about the way that animals are grown and slaughtered, what moral calculus do you use to continue eating meat?

MP: I'm a limited carnivore. I only eat meat that is grown in a way that I feel morally comfortable with. And that's not a lot of meat. But I've found a few producers whose practices strike me as defensible. I also think that there are always trade-offs when we eat. Even vegans inflict collateral damage on the environment. Many animals die in row crop agriculture -- not just in animal agriculture, and we have to remember that.

Animals are going to die so that we many live. And then you have to think about which animals, and how. And I think animals coming off of a humane farm where they get to live as their evolution dictates -- cows on grass, for example -- is better for them and for us than if they never lived at all. Domestic animals only exist to the extent that we eat them. There would be no pigs, no chickens, no cows as we know them, if people weren't eating them. I don't see domestication as something we've imposed on other species. I see it as a co-evolutionary arrangement, where the animal gets something out of it as well.

You can't domesticate a species just because you want to. There are many species who have refused to be domesticated. The ones who have are the ones who gain something from the relationship. And I think that's true even of the animals we are eating. Many animals depend on their predators for the health of their species.

I also think you can make a very strong ecological argument for eating meat. As I described earlier, the sustainably-raised meat is ecologically a very positive thing for the environment, for the grasslands. There are many grasslands that are diminished for not having ruminants on them. And ruminants need predators to be healthy, and we are those predators in cases of certain ruminants.

And without animals on farms, you'd need artificial fertilizer, because you wouldn't have manure to compost. So I think truly sustainable agriculture depends on animals in relation to plants. And if we took the animals out, I'm not sure we'd like the result. I don't think the vegan utopia, from an ecological standpoint, is very sustainable.

I also think that if you didn't have meat agriculture, there are many places in this country and this world that would not be able to feed themselves. I'm talking about hilly places, places where grass grows, but where you can't grow crops. You condemn people in those places to eat off of a very long food chain. I'm thinking of New England: without meat protein, you'd have to eat off the Midwest.

BG: Finally, what did you mean in writing that we're not only what we eat, but how we eat, too?

MP: At the end of the industrial food chain, you need an industrial eater. What you eat, and how you eat are equally important issues. There is a lot of talk and interesting comparisons drawn between us and the French on the subject of food. We're kind of mystified that they can eat such seemingly toxic substances -- triple crème cheeses and foie gras, and they're actually healthier than we are.

They live a little bit longer, they have less obesity, less heart disease. What gives? Well, according to the people who study this: It's not what they eat, it's how they eat it. They eat smaller portions; they do not snack as a rule; they do not eat alone. When you eat alone, you tend to eat more. When you're eating with someone there's a conversation going on, there's a sense of propriety; you don't pig out when you're eating at a table with other people.

So the French show you can eat just about whatever you want, as long as you do it in moderation. That strikes me as a liberating message. But it's not the way we do things here. We have a food system here that is all about quantity, rather than quality. So how you eat is very, very important, and to solve the obesity and the diabetes issue in this country, we're going to have change the way we eat, as well as what we eat.

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SoCal Sierra Club, are you reading this?
Posted by: boygranddakar on Apr 19, 2006 2:02 AM   
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I deeply hope that the SCSC, and other environmental groups that have decided to advocate a "plant-based diet" as the most ecological choice read this article. My partner is a vegan, but he respects my omnivore diet because he knows that I would die on a vegan diet, since I am allergic to certain key foods that vegans rely on, namely nuts and wheat. Not coincidentally, wheat is a hugely monocultured crop - so I wish they'd get off their ecological high horse.

The veganazis strike me as overwhelmingly white and upper middle class, whose desire to impose veganism on everyone further undermines the long-established eating traditions of immigrants to the U.S. that Pollan praises. My ancestors relied heavily on pork (on my mother's side) and lamb (on my father's side), and my connections to my heritage are deeply rooted in foodways, as is true for many second- and third- (and beyond) generations in this country.

Come to think of it, I've never been "on a diet," fad or otherwise.

I think very conscientiously about my food and the impact on the environment - more so than my vegan partner, whose eating habits are motivated entirely by a desire not to harm animals. (I also respect his eating choices, and often cook vegan for both of us.) I would just like to see certain veg. and vegan environmentalists respect others' food choices rather than making organizational policy based on the preferences of a few for "environmental" eating... which may not be so environmental after all.

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take charge on diet
Posted by: Bobsays on Apr 19, 2006 3:26 AM   
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I live in an urban area. The neighbourhood is a mix of very poor and very rich. I am decidedly middle class but come from a poor background (a single mom who was unemployed a lot of the time). But I did learn from my mom nutrition and exercise. She taught me how to cook and how to shop. I now know how to buy fresh fruit/veg and how to make nutritious meals out of anything. And I save loads of money and eat well.It is possible. It has changed my view of life in the wealthy west. I see nothing but lots of plenty in the supermarkets. I eat like in a fancy restaurant every night because I know how to cook.

I have lived in very poor countries and know how lucky we are. I have had to survive on some strips of mutton and a few rotten cabbages and carrots. That makes you learn.

We are so lucy to have such plenty. Don't waste it by delegitimising meals.

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Primitive!
Posted by: O.B.Server on Apr 19, 2006 4:23 AM   
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The above seems to be largely devoted to how pick out animals you plan to eat! Thats not really the advice I was looking for. I have lived in Japan for 16 years and whenever I visit the US I am always astounded by the large amount of meat the gets pushed in my direction even when it is known that I prefer to eat none or a very minimal amount.

I cannot say I am vegetarian but I'll say that in 40 years, I have eaten only a miniscule amount of flesh. This great drive to eat a cow or a chicken or a goat is a self destructive feature of humans carried over from some prehistoric time in my opinion.

I think we really do need for someone to tell us how to eat what is not only best for us physically but mentally and environmentally.

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Bravo.
Posted by: bettsoff on Apr 19, 2006 5:53 AM   
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Fantastic article. It really is about balance in the end.

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PATHETIC
Posted by: ladyoracle on Apr 19, 2006 7:14 AM   
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I know there'll be a lot of readers that feel like I do, but I am a vegetarian (yes, no fish!) and not a full vegan, but as close as I can be toward it at this time.

This guy again fails to critique what ideas about eating meat contributed to the problems he addresses in the first place. He should look at the man/animal hierarchy that is the root of the values of how the meat industry is so screwed up. If you are good with language, you can justify anything, and that's all this guy is doing; manipulating language and facts to justify his flesh-eating.

And I'd rather not see any more Alternet articles on "conscientious carnivores," because it's an oxymoron.

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I hope the book...
Posted by: Farmertim on Apr 19, 2006 7:21 AM   
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discribes in more detail the whole 'balance issue" of food and our relation to the environment.
As a Sustainable Farmer for several years now the idea of the spiritualality of food is just beginning to come into play and the interview above begins to touch upon it.
But"balance" of distance to your food and energy required to grow it as well as diversity of animals & plants on any one ecological system (ie farm) must be presented to the public in place of the PR campaigns we now face in order for people to realize the true definition of sustainability.
The Poly Face Farm is doing great things in its own right but unfortuneatly is catering to the elites of our society with the prices they fetch.
The practices they promote are admirable but they jumped the transitional curve and had the clientele to afford them the ability to do it.
The practices of this localized situation is now being repeated around the country with the prices being charged by all who do as Poly Face does but it doesn't represent the local clientele and many farms with the pricing structure of Poly Face farms are not doing well.
They have in a sense become non sustainable, not that people who want the products are not available, they simply cannot afford it.
As more people go to a farmer and ask for local products the cost will begin to reflect the local area and its economic realities, as well as what can be grown, how each farm can grow what can be grown, given its own realities to soil and climate and what the clientele can afford.
Grapes year round, not likely, fresh salad on new years day not many parts of the country can pull that off.
Yet this country can feed itself. We will soon have to realize that we must let go of the ability to eat anything at anytime of the year.
It will go a long way if people eat nutirent dense food grown with sustainable practices, locally and with proper balance of healthly soils and a varity of animals completing the balance that was in place before we altered the landscape.
Till then we will remain a fat, starving nation open to the suggestion of advertising telling us this new product will satisfy us, and make our lives easier.
Farmer Tim

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Buy from the farmer's market
Posted by: jreinhart1 on Apr 19, 2006 7:47 AM   
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All I can say is that the food at the local farmer's market is fresh, real food. The produce tastes nothing like what is bought in the store since it is not the type for transports and heirloom varieties are available. The eggs have yolks that are almost orange and are high in B vitamins ind critical fatty acids and the center white and yolk are practically perky when done sunny side up or over easy. The market is a great place for food and a great place to meet people.

The farmers in my family still make their own Hams, sausages and other deli meats as well as growing chickens, hogs and cows (Nebraska & Iowa are relatively flat, but the food from gatherings tastes like nothing that comes from the store).

I would like to see the subsidies for factory "farming" and food processors eliminated. It is well known that the quality of meats and produce are inferior and any real food spoils as opposed to the "fake" foods in stores that have engineered processed foods that last practically forever at room temperature and taste like cardboard. Fast food should be called mystery food.

Finally, I would like to add that the local farmer, be it a large or small operation, is critical for national security. Most foods travel thousands of miles before making it to the grocery store. With higher oil prices that will only skyrocket with more war, local farms and "victory" gardens may become the only available food supplier/source.

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...says that the comments will devolve into veg*n/omnivore flaming in less than 6 hours.

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Diets
Posted by: BlueTigress on Apr 19, 2006 8:26 AM   
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For a lot of people, the key to weight control can be described in a few simple rules:

1. Eat sensibly and slowly.
2. Don't eat too much too often.
3. Avoid fast food.
4. Exercise.
5. Drink water.
6. Take vitamins.

I realize that this is not sexy and takes self-discipline. But this is what it comes down to.

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I have one word for you: Meatrix
Posted by: saltsmith on Apr 19, 2006 8:38 AM   
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Watch the Meatrix. For everyone who finds the present state of our food supply appalling! Educate yourself and pass this award winning "eye-opener" on to anyone who buys mainstream industry produced meat!!

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political question
Posted by: moonbean on Apr 19, 2006 8:39 AM   
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Progressive people must realize that the unhealthy, environmentally damaging food system that multinational corporations have created and intend to spread all over the world is the result of their political power not allowing political solutions that directly address "the market" ordering our lives--consumers and farmers. I'm the family corn farmer featured in Michaels book. Most reveiws of his book focus on our power as consumers making better choices with our food dollar. What escapes most thinking, because we have all been brainwashed in the cold-war era, is that "the market" has a natural tendency to force farmers to produce more in the face of low prices and adapt whatever labor saving technology seems to make production costs decline. Likewise, without a very well educated consumer population, marketing will lead consumers right down the primrose path offered by the food giants. There needs to be a POLITICAL solution, and in fact this was known and applied during the New Deal. There has to be countervailing power provided by a "farm bill" that requires the food giants to pay fair prices to farmers just like the minimum wage should require corporations to pay fair wages. This "farm bill" should also provide for reserves of grain for food security and conservation programs. If corporations were paying the true cost of corn and soybeans, livestock would not be fed in giant, inhumane feedlots and unhealthy food would not be hyped and sold so cheap. For a progressive understanding of this piece of legislation, which is of utmost importance to the military-industrial-obesity complex, look at the website of the National Family Farm Coalition, of which I'm president. There you'll find our model farm bill, the Food from Family Farms Act and information linking our program to that of Via Campesina, the international peasant and farmworker movement. Thanks. George Naylor

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absence of sustained breastfeeding and eating disorders
Posted by: S. Nair on Apr 19, 2006 9:20 AM   
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One key element in the eating disorders realm is this: the babies in the US are traumatized by lack or absence of breastfeeding( with some exceptions.) I grew up in a culture and a time when breastfeeding was an unquestioned part of child raring and I rarely saw people with eating disorders except the rare overeater. When I came to the US nearly 30 years ago, what I gradually realized was that nearly every American has a very complex and often paradoxical relationship with food. I have been thinking about it and listening to the debate. Yes, advertizing, and norms of beauty imposed by profiteers, and iindustrialization of food production and a whole host of othersystemic things do play a role in addition to the perhaps Protestantism-caused "food as fuel" only ideology.

Yet the breastfeeding part of it is the most crucial thing, I think.

I think long and sustained breastfeeding (2 to 3 years) and the reinstatement of the belief that food is something more than mere fuel need to complement all the systemic measures. I still have to meet an American (a person brought up in the predominant US way) who really respects food and has a wise relationship with it.

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Corpse-based cuisine
Posted by: gadfly on Apr 19, 2006 9:45 AM   
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Boy, I'm always amazed at the rationales that non-vegans posit for the continuance of their inhumane dietary choices. The last one I read in response to this Pollan article is that the vegan diet would kill her because she's allergic to nuts and wheat. Like a vegan can't get along just fine without these two food products. I do. Meat and dairy are addictions and powerful ones. To animals, non-vegans are like Nazis and slave-owners. Non-vegans are responsible for horrendous suffering, torture, exploitation and slaughter of animals and no amount of tortured reasoning or self-serving justifications can change this inescapable fact. Animals have a right to exist for their own sake, free from human exploitation. The very paradigm of domination over animals that non-vegans accept on some level bleeds over to our relations with our fellow humans. All one has to do is tell oneself that one's victim is an animal (not human) and then one feels justified in exploiting him or her.
Consumption of animal products, through diet or otherwise, is an addiction and must be overcome. If one can't summon the strength to overcome this addiction, one should, at least. marshal the honesty to admit it to themselves.

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Great article!
Posted by: OrangeClouds115 on Apr 19, 2006 9:50 AM   
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I've recently become a vegan but I see your point about how we need animals. The other end of the coin is that we use so much land and water to raise the animals we eat that the vegan diet does not require. If I abstain from meet - trust me, there are enough others who will make up for my meat consumption. My brother found a site called Adopt a Vegetarian where meat eaters pledge to eat enough meat to make up for those of us who abstain. He told me he's adopted me.

I am going to have to think about this more. BTW - check out my site http://www.simple-vegetarian-recipes.com for some veg recipes. Even if you aren't a vegetarian, my recipes are a nice balancing act for your diet.

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Expanding the Farmer's Market
Posted by: CurtisBryant on Apr 19, 2006 10:32 AM   
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Here on the Great Plains, there's a new approach to the farmer's market: the statewide food cooperative.

Here's how it works:
Small food producers and food buyers such as my wife and me join a cooperative. On the coop's website, producers each have a page about their farm and list the products available. Buyers order what we want through e-commerce. The producers bring their food to a central point, from where it is distributed to points such as farmer's markets around the state. For a fee, the coop will even deliver to the buyer's door.

The Oklahoma Food Cooperative has been going for awhile now. You can see its website at www.oklahomafood.coop. The Nebraska Food Cooperative (www.nebraskafood.org) is beginning this year.

Because I live in Omaha, I’m excited! I hope that our food coop will encourage more Nebraskans and Nebraska businesses to buy from our state’s growers and expand local markets for our farmers.

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Animal products are BAD FOR YOU.
Posted by: Joshua R. on Apr 19, 2006 11:01 AM   
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I'm going to say something up front- I am not a dietician, nor am I an animal rights activist, but my wife and I have been vegan for nearly a year now, eating mostly raw vegetables, pastas, breads, along with the occasional soy product. We've done this for health reasons, and since we began eating this way, we haven't gotten sick and not once. NOT ONCE have I gotten indigestion (I would have bad acid reflux in the past), and certain "biological functions" have gotten more rich, energetic, and intense.

I live in the midwest, land of meat, sexual repression, and Jesus. People here are the most "carnivorous" of any other place in the United States, and the portions of meat are almost comical. People here are notoriously unhealthy, out of shape, sexually repressed, consumer-crazy, and many of the children now look like they have fetal-alcohol syndrome. Many people in the city in which I live hobble down the streets with their mouths hanging open (these are white middle-class people) Once can see just how animal products mangle your body, contribute to intellectual decline, laziness, and is the reason for obesity. Since the beginnings of the Atkins craze in the late 1990's, I have watched my fellow man physically deteriorate in front of my eyes. I, on the other hand, now have endless amounts of energy, my skin GLOWS, and I have ZERO body fat. Personally, animal rights are not my thing. I don't believe in unnecessary cruelty nor waste, but I will not give up my nice leather Italian shoes. I live below the poverty line, but always buy organic, and I am not an unbridled American consumer like the rest of my compadres. My exercise consists of simple walking. Just watching people eat in restaurants in the Midwest will make anyone vegan.

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Vegan Lie
Posted by: Louisa on Apr 19, 2006 11:28 AM   
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Vegans always omit from relevant discussions that it is quite hard to get the precise nutritional values of various meat sources from a strictly vegan diet.

Yes, there is the critical rice and bean combo as a semi-lame replacement - but then there is also "Beano" because people find that combination fairly harsh on their digestive system.

My doctor many years ago said something I still think is very true, he said, "Don't eat a lot of meat, but do eat at least some meat, and then vary the kinds of meat you eat also. Eat at least a quarter to a half a pound of meat every few days."

We need to return to diets more closely resembling those of our hunter-gatherer ancestors. That's not always a lot of meat, but even chimpanzees hunt and eat meat - and we thought they didn't for a long time.

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that's not all
Posted by: nicolassa555 on Apr 19, 2006 12:29 PM   
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I am vegetarian (no meat, fish, poultry, or eggs) and have studied both nutrition and environmental science in school and outside sources. I have found that humans do not need to eat meat to get enough nutrients, we can get all essential vitamins minerals and anything else we need from our diet. I am not saying we shouldn't eat it (I don’t thank every one should be a vegetarian) but Americans should definitely eat a lot less of it, as we should with most all food (except fruit and vegetables, which we need more of).
While having animals on the land does help fertilize the land and when done right can improve the land we are the ones that wiped out the animals natural predator (for example, people say they hunt deer to keep the population in control but we killed off wolfs, but when they are reintroduced they can keep the population of deer in check). In order to eat meet there has to be 10 times as much land as eating plants the higher up in the food chain you go the more land is needed to be able to feed off of. Because a cow eats all its life only about 10% of the mass of the food it has eaten in its life is converted to the person that eats the cow (assuming no parts of the cow are wasted). So if more people were vegetarians of we just eat less meat as a society we would be able to feed a lot more people on the land we are already using as farmland.
While I have only given a general overview of alternatives I think it is clear that there is a lot more to it than this article begins to discus.

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Start good habits early
Posted by: mattstafford on Apr 19, 2006 1:35 PM   
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Feeding unhealthy processed foods to young children is child abuse. I saw my friend giving an "iced cappuchino" to his 4 year old kid. I was not allowed to have sugar until I was 8 or so. If kids never have it, they'll never know the difference. The quality of the diet in the earliest phases of development will dictate future eating habits and will determine the health and well being of the individual in adulthood. If it comes in a box, can, or bag it is not healthy.

On the vegan debate...I believe that industrial, non-organic meat should be avoided at all costs but eating meat is not inherently immoral. Any vegan who drives a car should immediately step off his/her moral high horse. Eating meat is completely natural and probably was necessary for the development of Homo sapiens large brain (read up on it). I think that some meat is necessary for people living an active lifestyle but it should be eaten in moderation. The staple foods should be raw fruits and veggies, whole grains, nuts, olive oil, and beans.

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They don't eat it, they only sell it
Posted by: mtodorov_69 on Apr 20, 2006 1:02 AM   
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I am afraid we do not get the point: "It's all about the money!"
Just as the popular song says.
They don't eat those foods, or all those rich people would be obese too. They eat in the noblest restaurants with menu from selected farms. And that has a price.

Obesity is truly a class problem, and a worldwide one. RIght now I have evaluated my food policy, and I have bought the cheapest bean cans. Naturally, after few months I lacked nutrients and I tended to eat more and more of them.

This is the main problem with obesity: the food is deprived of nutrients, and man needs to eat more of them to get same nutrient quantity needed to survive. But, alas, the fats and carbs are not decreased in any of those foods, so I end up overweight back again soon after ending up last diet.

And to compensate for lack of natural rich taste of naturally grown foods, all the foods we eat are dopped with salt or sugar. Salt will emphasize flavor, but it will attract more unhealthy uncirculated fluids into the organism. Body can compensate for this probably with exercise, but depression of being on the bottom of the ladder kills that too, especially if man is one of the Prozac junkies or the lucky one on Risperdal like myself.

This whole industry is about chaining a man and draining every last penny from him, for his entire life. Even s slaveowner would take better care for what his slaves eat, because otherwise as a good manager he would lose a value if the slave becomes ill. But not the capitalist: profit margins are the best if all the money is drained in shortest possible time from the vast majority.

The profit margins are the best ever if Amazona rainforest is short term one-time transformed into cheap woods and sold, the top soil is removed and sold, the land is ruined and exploited and probably turned into radioactive dump.

This is globalization, but we must note that these are the same companies that smile to us with lovely models from commercials. I will not continue, because I am starting to preach. The bottom line is we will get ill because it is cheaper to food industry and more affordable to "health" industry. But none will cure you, because then you would pile up your money on savings account where they could not access it, thinking about a future. Now you don't have one and you are readily buying what that next commercial says is the meaning of life ... Mirsad.

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Nothing New Here
Posted by: DMG on Apr 21, 2006 1:48 PM   
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There have been many people saying pretty much what Pollen says for the last 60 or 70 years - J.I. and Robert Rodale, Beatrice Trum Hunter, Ross Hume Hall among others. Many unsung heroes. We have been doing our part since 1977 and you might find useful tools at our website HealthyHighways.com. Thanks, Nikki & David Goldbeck

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Food and Our Folly
Posted by: Betsy L. Angert on Apr 24, 2006 8:25 AM   
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Dear . . .

I offer my own realization.

More than three years ago, I adopted a habit that brings me so much joy, physically, mentally, intellectually, and spiritually. I had no idea that was what I was doing. I think I believed as others do; I was “giving up” all that was tasty.

I no longer eat cakes, cookies, pizza, soda, candy . . . I eat no processed foods, simple sugars, or trans-fatty acids. Humph! In truth, I gave up nothing! I gained such quality words cannot begin to express what I feel. The difference in my skin, nails, teeth, level of energy is notable. Even those outside my body see the change.

I wrote of the American addiction to foolish “fast” foods. I hope that you will enjoy this perspective, as I enjoyed yours. May we eat and live well. May we relish what is really delicious and full of flavor, quality foods, those that nature offers.
FAST FOOD IS NOT FAST ©

It is the giving that makes us what [who] we are. - Ian Anderson. Jethro Tull
Betsy L. Angert Be-Think

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oops, so sorry
Posted by: Betsy L. Angert on Apr 24, 2006 9:36 AM   
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Dear Blair Golson . . .

Embarrassed, I belatedly noticed I excluded your name in my comment. My sincere apologizes are offered.

I hope that you explored my earlier submitted
FAST FOOD IS NOT FAST ©

I would relish reading your opinions.

It is the giving that makes us what [who] we are. - Ian Anderson. Jethro Tull
Betsy L. Angert Be-Think

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oldman
Posted by: oldguy on Apr 25, 2006 10:37 AM   
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READ MORE product labels HIGH FRUTOSE CORN SYRUP has replaced sugar in most products in America. It has only been around since 1979,that year American people only ate 1 1/2 pounds . Today in America most people consume over 155 pounds. It is in everything sweet,pickles,sodas,pancake syrup,candy,breads,cookies etc.,etc. The main reason sugar was replaced was,it was supposed to make you fat;will guess what ,HFCS CAN NOT be processed by the body, so the liver turns it into FAT faster than sugar. We consume more in America than anywhere in the world,and are the fatest nation in the world!

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Native Americans, Africans, Europeans and Asians Eat Meat and They are Fine
Posted by: Bwesley on Apr 27, 2006 4:31 PM   
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And when they consume meats or many things they eat or use the entire thing not like just part of it. Native Americans, though they ate lot of meat, did so in an ecological way, as do native Africans and Asians and even some Europeans. I know that not everyone wants to eat the skin of the chicken or naw on some bone marrow but thats what native people have and still do. Not only does this type of living help the environment, but it provides extra nutrients for the person. So it is not the consumtion of meat that is wasteful but the way none-native people, like Americans, are doing it.

There is no question whether meat is good or bad for us. It obviously is good and we have been eating meat for all of our existance, and may never stop and probably shouldn't. It was doing us fine until America came along with its horrible way of processing food and its horrible diets. Even if the impossible happened and alot of us stopped eating meat all at once, the world would be overpopulated with animals. Its would be too much of a drastic change to species which have evolved around us in the last 200,000 years or so. And we would still have to kill them for their hides, etc. so we might as well eat the animal because to NOT do so would definitely be wasteful. We should follow the people who first ihabited what is today America and reuse and recycle as they did.


I'm a native west African and though we don't consume anywhere near the amount of red meat that Americans does, we still eat meat and plenty of it. And we are alot healthier. Like most native cultures, we eat the same nutrient rich foods and meals created from knowledge passed down from thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years of what to and what not to eat. These foods are what our bodies, are genes are based on and so are the best foods for us to eat. We eat goats, chickens and pigs mostly, not very much beef, and LOTS of seafood. I would say even if I could argue that land creatures should not be eaten, I could not argue that the nutrient rich creatures of the sea should be ridden from one's diet. It is this knowledge that is missing from Americans, that they so easily let go of, so easily let TV replace.

Another difference is this: native cultures that eat meat balance it with a staple, mostly GRAINS, which they consume 2-3 TIMES A DAY, far more than meats: rice and yams in Africa, rice in Asia, pasta in Italy, and so on. Furthermore the amount of greens and plant based stews and other vegetables that make up the west African diet, equal 3-4 times of the amount of meats (though maybe only twice, if that, of the amount of seafood consumed). Same with Italians that eat pasta with sauce made of tomatoes. And lets not even start on the tropical fruits-we end up being healthier, because we consume the way humans were meant to and we eat the food we were meant to eat, fresh foods and meats picked right out of the land.

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MORE TO NATIVE CULTURES
Posted by: Bwesley on Apr 27, 2006 4:32 PM   
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For example, one fo the meals we eat is solely derived from the fruit of the red palm. It is pure vegetable, lacks any cholesterol, and the oil it contains (red palm oil from the fruit of the palm NOT to be confused with the very fatty and high cholestorel white oil derived from the kernel) is being used to fight cancer, stroke, heart attack and other ailments. The stew made from the crushed palm fruit is pure vegetable. Combined with fish, meats, and other vegies it is a very nutricious meal when topped with rice. There are no additives. There are plenty of different diets out there, from a countless amount of cultures and people should really be educated and know the facts before they jump to conclusion that meat is bad or the all vegie diet is better.

America lives in a bubble and continues to sprew out research which doesn't begin to scratch most of the world's diet. There is a lot more for people to discover. The red oil thing is one thing. Many people don't know about its health benefits and confuse it with palm kernel oil. I've had many professors and doctors tell me its bad for you and then become shocked when I inform them of their ignorance. If people really got more educated about humans and our planet as a whole and what is out there, then they could make better diet choices for them and not just make silly short cut rules like cut out meat or cut out carbs.

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