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Confused About All the Climate Talk and the Copenhagen Summit? Here's the Skinny: Five Things You Should Know

By Tara Lohan, AlterNet. Posted October 23, 2009.


The who, what, where, when and why about COP 15, which strangely means: the "Council of Parties."
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There's a lot of buzz about COP15, the big climate-change meeting coming up -- what exactly is all the hype about, and why should you care? Here's a simple breakdown.

1. What the heck is it?

COP15 is the 15th meeting of the Conference of the Parties, the highest body of the United Nations Climate Change Convention, and it will take place this year Dec. 7-18. There will be 192 countries participating and a whole bunch of nongovernmental organizations, as well. The event will be in Copenhagen and is hosted by the Danish government. COP14 was in Poland last year.

One of the most well-known COP meetings was COP3 in Kyoto, Japan, in 1997, which resulted in the Kyoto Protocol, a document now signed by over 180 countries and put into action in February 2005. The protocol set binding emissions targets for greenhouse gases (GHG) for 37 industrialized countries and the European Union, committing them to reducing their GHG emissions an average of 5 percent against 1990 levels between 2008 and 2012.

"Recognizing that developed countries are principally responsible for the current high levels of GHG emissions in the atmosphere as a result of more than 150 years of industrial activity, the protocol places a heavier burden on developed nations under the principle of 'common but differentiated responsibilities,'" explains the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.

The U.S., which contributed over 30 percent of global GHG emissions in 1990 never signed the Kyoto Protocol, and the country's reluctance to commit to international climate change negotiations has long stymied the process. Until, perhaps, now ...

2. What are they trying to accomplish?

The goal of the COP15 is to get as many countries as possible (and particularly big emitters like the U.S.) to enter into a binding agreement to reduce GHG emissions enough to prevent catastrophic results from climate change.

Yvo de Boer, executive secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, told Environment & Energy Publishing that he was hoping four important questions would be answered in Copenhagen:

  • How much are the industrialized countries willing to reduce their emissions of greenhouse gases?
  • How much major developing countries such as China and India are willing to do to limit the growth of their emissions?
  • How is the help needed by developing countries to engage in reducing their emissions and adapting to the impacts of climate change going to be financed?
  • How is that money going to be managed?

3. Why does the future of the world depend on it?

This is really serious stuff. The best science tells us that we need immediate action on climate change to prevent catastrophic results. This month the U.N. Environment Program released an updated report following the groundbreaking findings in 2007 by the International Panel on Climate Change that basically said thing are are going to be as bad as the IPCC predicted or worse.

"The pace and the scale of climate change is accelerating, along with the confidence among researchers in their forecasts," UNEP Director Achim Steiner said in the report.


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Obama and the Democrats are nearly as flippant about climate change as republicans
Posted by: cplot on Oct 23, 2009 1:02 AM   
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Obama and the democrats are nearly as flippant about climate change as republicans. The bills that the Democrats in the house and the senate have put forward are a slap in the face to al of their constituents and all of the people of the World.

To compare those bills to what a serious response to climate change would look like read: 2020 Vision: A strategic response to the urgent crisis of climate change.

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The guilty dominate the debate
Posted by: Hans B on Oct 23, 2009 1:04 AM   
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The innocent are not even listened to.

This will be a repeat of Kyoto, I fear. Then, the US used its power - that is, the fact that it emitted way more CO2 than anyone else - to impose cap-and-trade on everyone else (the Europeans wanted "cap without trade" but folded to get the US on board). Having gotten what they wanted, the US refused to sign anyway. Today, because of their CO2 clout, the US and China will set the agenda. Countries like Bangla Desh will have a seat at the table out of sheer politeness, but when they speak no one will listen. Imagine a trial where the accused determine everything - including their own sentences - while the victims are asked to put up and preferably also shut up. That's Copenhagen in a nutshell. Am I optimistic about the results of such a process? No, I am not.

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ProfBob
Posted by: ProfBob on Oct 23, 2009 2:08 AM   
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No politician would dare tackle the ultimate cause of warming--too many people.
According to an article in Science Daily (April 20, 2009), a survey of the faculty at the State University of New York, which has a very strong environmental science department, the planet’s major environmental problem is overpopulation.. Climate change is second. This echoes the theme of the comprehensive and convincing popular free ebook series “And Gulliver Returns” –In Search of Utopia—(http://andgulliverreturns.info) As one professor at SUNY said “With ten million or even a hundred million people on the planet there would be no warming problem.” It is both the technology and the number of people using it that create so many of our planetary problems.
There is no question that China's one child policy has helped the world and the Chinese economy. But whenever a country attempts to reduce its population it can expect a two or three generation period of problems while deaths reduce to equal births. I hope that China will recognize this fact and keep its own population on the path to reduction--which should begin by 2050. China's actual fertility rate is not 1.0 per woman, but 1.8--the same as Norway's.
China's Platonic-like oligarchy is far more efficient than modern democracies. The self-centered desires of each of us to have as many children as we want; the pressure of some religions and most businesses for more converts and customers; and the need for more soldiers to defend each sovereign state-- each fight the obvious solution to the problems of the world: warming, illegal immigration, the use of irreplaceable natural resources, waste disposal along with air and water pollution, starvation, and the lack of fresh water. But countries commonly encourage more births to enlarge the tax base and pay for the elderly. Then each generation will contain still more elderly.
The earth is self correcting' but the correction will cost billions of lives that could have been saved with intelligent action now.

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» RE: ProfBob Posted by: Hans B
Climate change
Posted by: Gates on Oct 23, 2009 7:57 AM   
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If any meaningful progress is decided at Copenhagen it will not come from the US. Big business like oil companies have too big a hold on US politics, and climate change sanctions is not good for business.

India and china will want the US to face harder restrictions for their historical emissions, which the US will likely dispute. If these 3 countries cant agree the conference will accomplish nothing.

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No confusion here, Ace
Posted by: willymack on Oct 23, 2009 9:06 AM   
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None at all.
This is a classic battle of Good vs. Evil, and Evil has a huge lead.
The bullshit politics surrounding any get-togethers may make some of us feel good, but unless we lead by setting a positive EXAMPLE of what's right and MORAL, it'll all come to naught, as usual.
Stalling tactics by major polluters and those in their pockets will sink us all.

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What Can I do?
Posted by: tommy_slothrop on Oct 23, 2009 9:35 AM   
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Call my congressional representatives
Done

Go to a rally?
I'll drive my SUV right over. Probably get a bumpersticker, too.

...

Become a fan of their facebook page
Oh for god's sake ...

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Where's Tony-opmoc and the other Global Warming deniers?
Posted by: Karlh on Oct 23, 2009 9:46 AM   
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» RE: Just as in the USA Posted by: Changling
Climate Change Is All About Setting Up a World Government Fascist Dictatorship
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 23, 2009 10:11 AM   
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It's just the final piece in the jigsaw, but now pretty much irrelevent, as most of the sheep just consume all the shit they are fed.

In case you haven't noticed the planet has got a lot colder over the last 10 years and is likely to continue getting colder.

But the sheep are so brainwashed, that they don't realise it has got colder, and think it is getting warmer cos they haven't had their woolly coats sheered yet.

They'll still be bleating Stop Global Warming Bahh...Bahh..Bahh... as they are led into the slaughter house in the freezing cold, not realising that windmills don't work when the air is incredibly still on a cold and frosty morning.

Its all about, the elites keeping warm - with your woolly coat as YOU are culled.

Lets face it, you all agree there are too many humans.

What more did you expect?

I have been saying here for over 2 years that CO2 is not a significant factor in controlling the Earth's Climate, and that you should all pray to the Sun God Apollo instead, but you are so daft you think Apollo took Men to The Moon - and they walked their and then came back.

If you believe that, you will believe anything.

I bet you even believe in Jesus Christ. If you think he is going to save you, then you are in for a big disappointment.

Bah, Bah a black Sheep,
Have you any Wool?
Yes merry have I,
Three Bags full,
One for my master,
One for my Dame,
One for the little Boy
That lives down the lane.

Origins and meaning


A description of the medieval 'Great' or 'Old Custom' wool tax of 1275, which survived until the fifteenth century. Contrary to some commentaries, this tax did not involve the collection of one third to the king, and one third to the church, but a less punitive sum of 6s 8d to the Crown per sack, about 5 per cent of the value.


Tony

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New numbers on our carbon emmissions are promising!
Posted by: pdrich on Oct 23, 2009 10:55 AM   
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There is some good news out there: Lester Brown, head of Earth Policy Institute, put out an article last month, that we are starting to 'walk the walk'. His article can be found at www.earthpolicy.org. He indicates, according to Dept of Energy data, we have reduced our carbon emissions by 9% since 2007, so that whatever we are doing: going more efficient, adding in alternative energy use, is working. According to my research, we need another 9% reduction, to get below the 1990 level of 350.
If we are to get to the level proposed in this article in Alternet, we must continue a 4% reduction yearly, getting us to a 50% reduction by 2020.

If we all keep the pressure on, of course we can do it! Time to put the foot on the low-carbon pedal, and gun it: buy solar, add energy efficiency to our homes and businesses.

Check out my website for ideas and updates too:
www.sustainabledesign.vpweb.com

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» Your numbers are wrong. Posted by: Hans B
» Your Sums Are Good. Posted by: tony_opmoc
Here is what You can do, and anyone can do.
Posted by: MaxT on Oct 23, 2009 11:46 AM   
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While political system peoples fly around the globe and arrange more meetings, symposiums and conferences for the corporate media to focus on, in actual reality around us the problems continue, and likely the carbon will keep on floating around on air around us, insolently not heeding any of the agreements made by politicians, no matter how significant those politicians may seem on media, or for us personally. Even the healthy clean nutritious food costs keep on rising.

Unknown to what could be unconstructively mischievously be called "Global Conferences traveling class", the practical solutions methods do exist, and are neither costly, difficult or expensive to partake in. Here is one set of explanations on how to homescale remove carbon from air, while (if all goes well in particular homeproject) making more gardenable, rather permanent, soil to happen nearby. Also, nearby freshwaters can be cleaned at the same go, if needed, and conditions are suitable:

Do It Yourself Carbon sequestration, Soil making and Water cleaning -instructions:

http://www.ymparistojakehitys.fi/energia_terrapreta.html

It's not very complicated nor does it need special skills nor special equipment materials... I urge climate and food security concerned and interested to check that very short set through. In other words I propose along the lines that... let us all fix these ourselves for our part, now that the means and methods are available for us.

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Support a strong climate treaty
Posted by: greenferret on Oct 23, 2009 1:20 PM   
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The climate targets currently proposed by Washington are unbearably weak - far behind what the IPCC says would give us a 50:50 chance of avoiding disaster.

Tell President Obama and your senators to support a 40% emissions reduction by 2020 to avert crisis.

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bring on global warming
Posted by: raginghormones on Oct 23, 2009 1:31 PM   
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We've already had two snowfalls this month in Nebraska plus 200% of the normal October rainfall, in addition to temperatures 20 degrees below normal.

We also had a below normal temperature for summer.
The fields are soaked and most of the crops around here are waiting to be harvested.

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this whole debate is needed but is pointed in the wrong direction...
Posted by: Bearzerker on Oct 25, 2009 11:40 PM   
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...by the very people that should know better!

global warming isnt just a concern for us here but is affecting the entire solar system.
Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

our specific problem is one where we are emitting life threatening poison's into our ecosystem... Our C02 and water shortages we can deal with easy enough by replanting all the deforested rainforests... but when industrial emmisions change the acidity of our landmass and oceans killing off entire ecosystems it's easy to see that the culprit is purely greed driven.

environmentalists have been scaring us for generations now, and with each new generation comes a new scarey topic dejour... the point is made but the reason of course is over population and the fix is simple depuration of our consumer based infastructure... the planet can safely maintain double or even triple our present population but only if we clean up our act...

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Anolther Scam of the New World Order Agenda
Posted by: Awakened1 on Oct 26, 2009 6:19 PM   
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Climate change, sure, happens naturally every few thousand years, we just happen to be around for it this time, have we had an impact on our environment? of course, but this man made global warming, carbon tax, COP 15 and all the rest is nothing more than another card in the deck from the UN / G20 / Openly touted New World Order agenda... NOTHING MORE, no agreement, or anything else is going to stop Natures patterns...but it will make a very small group extremely rich fooling the slaves into thinking it is true... WAKE UP WORLD

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What is happening isn't normal for the times
Posted by: Changling on Oct 27, 2009 9:27 PM   
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It isn't a scam but we need to guard against those who would hijack it for their own profit.

Right now they like the Old World Order but a few see the writing on the wall and want to keep a disaster from happening.

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handmjones
Posted by: handmjones on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 AM   
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We are in a glacial period punctuated with warm inter-glacials. If the overall glacial period is to continue this interglacial must soon (in geological terms)end and cooling commence. If this does not happen then the overall glacial period ends and the planet returns to long term 'normal' temperatures. In that case life will go on but not for most of humanity.

One item to consider is that in this period of positive feedback to warming, no scientist has stated with assurance that cutting anthropogenic carbon emmisions will delay warming significantly. Most of the human effect is due to our eating. Cultivation, fertilizers, burning of forest, cattle farts, methane from rice paddies and finally transportation of the food. good luck on cutting significantly with an ever growing population. Sit back enjoy what you have and await the apocolypse with equanimity.

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