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Glenn Beck's Crazy Lies About Van Jones
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After smearing White House special advisor Van Jones for days on his show, Glenn Beck said on August 27, 2009: "I want to point out the silence; no one has challenged these facts -- they just attack me personally."
Well, the White House is wise to stay above the fray but someone has to set the record straight. And as the person who first hired Van Jones, initially as a legal intern and later as a legal fellow, I am in a unique position to know the truth.
And the truth is: Beck is fabricating his facts.
For instance: several times on his show, Beck has said or implied that Van went to prison for taking part in the Rodney King riots.
No Criminal Convictions
Van has never served time in any prison. He has never been convicted of any crime. And just to be clear: Van was not even in Los Angeles during those tumultuous days.
I know because he was working for me -- in San Francisco -- when the four Los Angeles police officers were acquitted in the beating of Rodney King. I was the Executive Director of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights of the San Francisco Bay Area when Van was an intern.
The verdicts came down on April 29, 1992. I remember Van (who was then a legal intern working with me from Yale Law School) coming into my office in San Francisco. Many of us, including Van, sat there together, listening to the news and weeping. We were all in a state of shock. That night, TV showed the tragic images of LA burning.
The next day, when an initially peaceful march in downtown San Francisco devolved into chaos, Van left the area in tears. He was not involved in any destructive activity. He even penned an essay despairing of the violence and the state of the country.
So how can Beck make such unsubstantiated claims?
The True Story (From Someone Who Was There)
This is what really happened. On May 8, 1992, the week AFTER the Rodney King disturbances, I sent a staff attorney and Van out to be legal monitors at a peaceful march in San Francisco. The local police, perhaps understandably nervous, stopped the march and arrested hundreds of people -- including all the legal monitors.
The matter was quickly sorted out; Van and my staff attorney were released within a few hours. All charges against them were dropped. Van was part of a successful class action lawsuit later; the City of San Francisco ultimately compensated him financially for his unjust arrest (a rare outcome).
So the unwarranted arrest at a peaceful march -- for which the charges were dropped and for which Van was financially compensated -- is the sole basis for the smear that he is some kind of dangerous criminal.
Van has spoken often about that difficult period 17 years ago -- and its impact on him, as a young law student. But to imply that he was somehow a rioter who went to prison is absurd. Beck also bizarrely claims that Van was arrested in the Seattle WTO protests. That is just a flat-out falsehood.
You don't have to take my word for it. Arrests and convictions are all a matter of public record. Beck is at best relying on Internet rumors or even inventing claims to boost his ratings.
Beck is no more accurate with present facts than he is with past ones.
Not a Mysterious 'Czar"
Beck has said repeatedly that Van is some kind of a mysterious "czar," accountable to no one but the President. A simple Internet search shows that this claim is false. A March 10, 2009, press release announced that Van was hired by the Chair of the White House Council on Environmental Quality - to work on her staff as a "special advisor."
In other words, Van is within the normal White House chain of command, reporting to an office confirmed by the United States Senate, just like most White House staffers. Media outlets sometimes use the "czar" shorthand. But the facts show that Van has no mysterious role or extra-constitutional powers.
Beck has implied on two occasions that Van Jones and other Obama appointees were not vetted by the FBI. False. I was interviewed in my own office by an FBI agent, dutifully vetting Van. Yet another fabrication on the part of Mr. Beck.
Beck also claims that Van has somehow gained control over $500 million in Green Jobs Act funding and can hand out millions of dollars at his whim. Again, that is patently ridiculous.
No Authority to Hand out Billions
The law is clear that the Department of Labor has authority over the program, with normal rules governing the funds. Anybody who thinks that a lone government official can pass out money, arbitrarily and without oversight, knows nothing about our legal system. A blizzard of lawsuits would stop any such scheme in its tracks, if one were ever put in place.
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Posted by: RevolutionNet on Aug 31, 2009 12:14 AM
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Posted by: notabilia on Aug 31, 2009 4:28 AM
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Thanks, Van Jones, for selling out.
The only "business-based solution" is to begin, to begin, to regulate the hell out of polluting, marauding corporations. And to regulate the hell out of the bureaucrats, academicans, and aspiring "community organizers" who have become so corrupt in furtherance of the corporate supersystem.
Look for Obama to have Beck and Jones in for another beer summit.
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Interview - David Neiwert - How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right
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Posted by: leafsong1 on Aug 31, 2009 7:19 AM
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"Anybody who thinks that a lone government official can pass out money, arbitrarily and without oversight, knows nothing about our legal system. A blizzard of lawsuits would stop any such scheme in its tracks, if one were ever put in place."
Anybody who thinks such things can never take place has been living under a rock for the last decade. Tell me, what are Summers and Geithner accused of in the public forum but not in any lawsuit? Remember the disappearing pallets of currency? Ten-figure no-bid contracts? If you want to live in a dream world, fine. Just don't send us any more postcards like this article. We have enough liars to deal with.
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Posted by: tsmeisen on Aug 31, 2009 7:43 AM
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green person of color would be hard to beat in this state. And, he would be a GREAT governor!
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Posted by: CoolPillow on Aug 31, 2009 9:34 AM
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Check your facts and get back to us.
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Posted by: progressive-life on Aug 31, 2009 9:41 AM
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In 1992, during a protest of the Rodney King verdict in San Francisco, police officers illegally arrested Jones and hundreds of other participants in a peaceful protest march. Jones, at the time a law student at Yale Law School, participated as a volunteer, legal monitor. The District Attorney later dropped the charges against Jones. The unlawfully arrested protesters, including Jones, won a small legal settlement. The incident deepened Jones's "disaffection with the system and accelerated his political radicalization."
Amazing, is Obama bringing in all his radical friends on his staff!!!... This will be 4 long years! Can't wait to vote this asshole and his corrupt friends out of office!
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Posted by: on Aug 31, 2009 10:08 AM
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Beck, however, is another matter entirely. I find we tend to flinch quickly away, whenever this guy begins his Lying Babble & Crocodile Tears –– much as we react when we run into a rattler or coyoté on our back patio. Very scary & dangerous stuff.
If it's any Solace, I think it's just a matter of (not very much) time, before quiet, focused people appear to haul Glen Beck away, in a nondescript van –– to quickly house him in a much softer, more isolated place (a'la Blanche DuBois in "A Streetcar Named Desire"). At least he probably has enough money to pay his own way (not to mention good Medical Insurance provided by the caring folks @FOX).
A few additional comments of, um, "relief," while I'm @it: Beck's advertisers are already jumping-ship in ever-growing numbers (64 was the last count we heard). FOX "News" can only but react (eventually) to this serious problem w/punitive measures –– though they may have to fire the lost, crazed guy when he's already firmly-lodged in his isolated soft room.
Even Bill O'Reilly will soon see this Looney Bird as a very real threat to his own limited existence –– & he'll toss him overboard, a'la "Lifeboat." (Isn't it nice to be able to draw analogies from Classic Films to illustrate & predict the long, fatal falls of truly non-classy people.)
Well, the noses just grow longer & moronic lies always surface & are revealed.
Bye-bye, Mister Beck. Take your Meds.
m. swof.
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Posted by: dianedp on Aug 31, 2009 11:00 AM
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Why will nobody sue when they are deliberately lied about? Why do we have to willingly accept lies as part and parcel of Fox News?
Why can republicans change but Democrats are always bad/wrong?
Mr. Beck has admitted to being an alcoholic.
Surely he knows people can change, unless he really hasn't.
His rantings and lies have become more grandiose and disturbing.
He needs some time away from tv.
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Posted by: chetdude on Aug 31, 2009 12:47 PM
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Spread it around...
And put them on the defensive for a change?
Why do we continue to allow the far-right to set the agenda?
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Aug 31, 2009 1:48 PM
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I'm confused.
The Politics of Fear 2001-2009
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Posted by: willymack on Aug 31, 2009 7:49 PM
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It's even WORSE that some people actually believe his flatulence.
It's time for the men with the nets to take beck to a special rubber room, where he can babble all he wants without annoying people with BRAINS.
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Posted by: kanekoa64 on Sep 1, 2009 9:58 PM
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So what else is new?
Basically, encouraging the self destruction of the worlds best experimental exercise in the collective expression of freedom by any one government, ever conceived, our United States of America, is what he does.
Imagine the celebration behind closed doors at Fox if all Glenn's crap gets Obama assassinated by some Right Wing freak.
Or the pill party complete with the handing out of large, brown, penis-like cigars at Rush's studio.
And this unimportant, shitty little man is gleeful about his part in tearing down all that we hold dear while hiding behind our flag and using our constitution for a diaper, despite it's inability to absorb his "boo boos".
It's to the point where we should save only his funniest shtick for posting and commentary. Reading his frothing raves or hearing his pandering, poorly acted, used car salesman voice makes me sick to my stomach.
It's becoming too much like a forced scatological examination without gloves for me anymore. I'm going to leave it for those with stronger constitutions, to keep tabs on this shameless puppet.
Watching his attempts to remain in the public eye while he says anything he can to make his audience continue listening is like being forced to watch a mentally disturbed person play with himself in public while screaming obscenities. Comparative to the effect it would have on the unprepared seeing a "Geek Show" for the first time, back in the day.
A nightmare on so many levels for all of us.
He's addicted to hearing himself crying wolf, over and over, telling people who don't see the wolf that they might, if they turn off their flashlights and squint their eyes, REALLY hard.. His viewers keep on squinting as he repeats it enough times, that it MUST be true and voila'! Magically, they begin to make out the wolf shape hidden in the amorphous, innocuous blob out there in the big, scary BLACK dark.
Like Rush, his words have no substance, solution or intent to create anything good. There is no love of country, no higher calling or righteous compassion. Just day after day of bile mustered up by bad, short order cooks, serving voluntarily blind customers so hungry to see an undisclosed, vaguely felt purpose thats been dangling under their noses their whole lives,
if he calls the fecal ramblings he spits at them Prime Rib, they eat it with gusto while he grins that sick liars grin he uses so often he no longer worries who sees him do it.
He's a disgusting human being, pitifully in need of psychiatric treatment.
And after some weeks of treatment, if he's deemed fit for trial, his sentence should befit someone so sick as to bring up Hitler for comparison to the President of the United States because of his skin color.
He has no right to say he loves the United States.
He has no reverence for it's founding ideals, it's citizens, our President or it's future. He actively obstructs civil, social and political progress that many generations of Americans have dedicated their lives to, fought and died to protect. Beyond shameful, It's downright evil in intent.
He and others like him, either do not see, or do not care about the damage they cause this country's very soul while lining their pockets.
The results are the same and soon, I fear the effects of their shortsighted, egomaniacal hackery will leave all of us to reap the bitter fruit they've sown.
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Posted by: kanekoa64 on Sep 1, 2009 9:58 PM
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So what else is new?
Basically, encouraging the self destruction of the worlds best experimental exercise in the collective expression of freedom by any one government, ever conceived, our United States of America, is what he does.
Imagine the celebration behind closed doors at Fox if all Glenn's crap gets Obama assassinated by some Right Wing freak.
Or the pill party complete with the handing out of large, brown, penis-like cigars at Rush's studio.
And this unimportant, shitty little man is gleeful about his part in tearing down all that we hold dear while hiding behind our flag and using our constitution for a diaper, despite it's inability to absorb his "boo boos".
It's to the point where we should save only his funniest shtick for posting and commentary. Reading his frothing raves or hearing his pandering, poorly acted, used car salesman voice makes me sick to my stomach.
It's becoming too much like a forced scatological examination without gloves for me anymore. I'm going to leave it for those with stronger constitutions, to keep tabs on this shameless puppet.
Watching his attempts to remain in the public eye while he says anything he can to make his audience continue listening is like being forced to watch a mentally disturbed person play with himself in public while screaming obscenities. Comparative to the effect it would have on the unprepared seeing a "Geek Show" for the first time, back in the day.
A nightmare on so many levels for all of us.
He's addicted to hearing himself crying wolf, over and over, telling people who don't see the wolf that they might, if they turn off their flashlights and squint their eyes, REALLY hard.. His viewers keep on squinting as he repeats it enough times, that it MUST be true and voila'! Magically, they begin to make out the wolf shape hidden in the amorphous, innocuous blob out there in the big, scary BLACK dark.
Like Rush, his words have no substance, solution or intent to create anything good. There is no love of country, no higher calling or righteous compassion. Just day after day of bile mustered up by bad, short order cooks, serving voluntarily blind customers so hungry to see an undisclosed, vaguely felt purpose thats been dangling under their noses their whole lives,
if he calls the fecal ramblings he spits at them Prime Rib, they eat it with gusto while he grins that sick liars grin he uses so often he no longer worries who sees him do it.
He's a disgusting human being, pitifully in need of psychiatric treatment.
And after some weeks of treatment, if he's deemed fit for trial, his sentence should befit someone so sick as to bring up Hitler for comparison to the President of the United States because of his skin color.
He has no right to say he loves the United States.
He has no reverence for it's founding ideals, it's citizens, our President or it's future. He actively obstructs civil, social and political progress that many generations of Americans have dedicated their lives to, fought and died to protect. Beyond shameful, It's downright evil in intent.
He and others like him, either do not see, or do not care about the damage they cause this country's very soul while lining their pockets.
The results are the same and soon, I fear the effects of their shortsighted, egomaniacal hackery will leave all of us to reap the bitter fruit they've sown.
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Posted by: askwhynow2day on Sep 3, 2009 10:04 AM
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Jones sounds far more threatening to me.
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Posted by: MPiano on Sep 4, 2009 10:45 AM
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Which lies?
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Posted by: HillbillyRob on Sep 4, 2009 1:03 PM
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We are taking our own home green in steps, so far we have cut our power use by 1/2 and our heating fuel by 2/3 and our gasoline use by at least half, by replacing the minivan when it finaly died with a Nissan Versa, which gets 36 mpg instead of 18 and driving the pickup less only filling it once a month instead of weekly like we used to.
We have been replacing lights with LEDs and appliances with Energy Star rated ones, as highly rated as we can afford as each old appliance reaches the end of its life.
That is called individual responsibility.
We have a solar water heater that is large enough that when installed will heat water for domestic use and for radiant heat. We have done a bunch of inulation etc so far. On sunny winter days we can open the insulated draperies on the sunny side and not even run heat. I painted the roof with Kool Seal brand reflective white and it has cut the heat gain immensely instead of being 20 degrees hotter in than out its now 10 degrees cooler and we have run no ac at all this summer. saving us about 300$ a month, not to mention the coal that would be burned to generate that power.
Eventually we will install solar electric, when we get our consumption down to where we can cover it.
We still have tv, puters etc we just use them more efficiently.
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Posted by: whole2th on Sep 5, 2009 4:04 PM
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It must be frustrating not to be free to leverage the official lies of 9/11 here on AlterNet, lest throngs of truthers shine light on the big lies of 9/11.
National Geographic now reports that 33% of Americans think the US government had something to do with 9/11. It should come as no surprise that an appointee to Obama's administration would hold the views of 33% of Americans on the topic of 9/11.
My own suspicion is that AlterNet is protecting a particular interest groupin the apparent editorial blackout of 9/11 truth materials.
Van Jones' greatest "sin" is being a 9/11 truth advocate. The rest is trumped up to distract from his "sin". Glenn Beck has clearly indicated where he stands about 9/11 truthers--equating them with supporting Al Qaeda. AlterNet seems a bit more cloaked in the editing out of 9/11 truth materials.
Again, it must be frustrating not to be able to leverage the myth of 9/11 for the purposes intended. 33% of Americans know--and counting......
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Posted by: maxfrisson on Sep 6, 2009 1:06 PM
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HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA!
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» Someone needs to start slapping these guys with slander/libel lawsuits
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» Sorry to disappoint you my liberal friend..
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» RE: Sorry to disappoint you my liberal friend..
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» RE: Not Sorry to Inform YOU, prog'life..
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» Forget Incitement, What About SLANDER and DEFAMATION?
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Posted by: C. Rich on Aug 31, 2009 3:08 AM
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http://americaspeaksink.com/?s=kennedy
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Posted by: notabilia on Aug 31, 2009 4:28 AM
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Thanks, Van Jones, for selling out.
The only "business-based solution" is to begin, to begin, to regulate the hell out of polluting, marauding corporations. And to regulate the hell out of the bureaucrats, academicans, and aspiring "community organizers" who have become so corrupt in furtherance of the corporate supersystem.
Look for Obama to have Beck and Jones in for another beer summit.
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» RE: Wow! Sounds familiar--Lenin, Stalin, Castro
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» buisness is not the enemy..neither is capitalism
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» because
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Interview - David Neiwert - How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right
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» Funny, but I think the radical left is the real....
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Posted by: leafsong1 on Aug 31, 2009 7:19 AM
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"Anybody who thinks that a lone government official can pass out money, arbitrarily and without oversight, knows nothing about our legal system. A blizzard of lawsuits would stop any such scheme in its tracks, if one were ever put in place."
Anybody who thinks such things can never take place has been living under a rock for the last decade. Tell me, what are Summers and Geithner accused of in the public forum but not in any lawsuit? Remember the disappearing pallets of currency? Ten-figure no-bid contracts? If you want to live in a dream world, fine. Just don't send us any more postcards like this article. We have enough liars to deal with.
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Posted by: tsmeisen on Aug 31, 2009 7:43 AM
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green person of color would be hard to beat in this state. And, he would be a GREAT governor!
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» Van Jones for CA Gov? OK... here's his 'Agenda'
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» RE: Your POINT?
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Posted by: theblackgeorgecarlin on Aug 31, 2009 9:28 AM
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» Oh, and one more thing...
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» RE: WRONG.
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Posted by: CoolPillow on Aug 31, 2009 9:34 AM
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Check your facts and get back to us.
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Posted by: progressive-life on Aug 31, 2009 9:41 AM
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In 1992, during a protest of the Rodney King verdict in San Francisco, police officers illegally arrested Jones and hundreds of other participants in a peaceful protest march. Jones, at the time a law student at Yale Law School, participated as a volunteer, legal monitor. The District Attorney later dropped the charges against Jones. The unlawfully arrested protesters, including Jones, won a small legal settlement. The incident deepened Jones's "disaffection with the system and accelerated his political radicalization."
Amazing, is Obama bringing in all his radical friends on his staff!!!... This will be 4 long years! Can't wait to vote this asshole and his corrupt friends out of office!
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» RE: Maybe Beck's attacks have some truth
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» So are they dangerous radicals...
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» Beck's only truth, there was life on earth prior to today.
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» "progressive"-life, you have given me hope
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Posted by: on Aug 31, 2009 10:08 AM
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Beck, however, is another matter entirely. I find we tend to flinch quickly away, whenever this guy begins his Lying Babble & Crocodile Tears –– much as we react when we run into a rattler or coyoté on our back patio. Very scary & dangerous stuff.
If it's any Solace, I think it's just a matter of (not very much) time, before quiet, focused people appear to haul Glen Beck away, in a nondescript van –– to quickly house him in a much softer, more isolated place (a'la Blanche DuBois in "A Streetcar Named Desire"). At least he probably has enough money to pay his own way (not to mention good Medical Insurance provided by the caring folks @FOX).
A few additional comments of, um, "relief," while I'm @it: Beck's advertisers are already jumping-ship in ever-growing numbers (64 was the last count we heard). FOX "News" can only but react (eventually) to this serious problem w/punitive measures –– though they may have to fire the lost, crazed guy when he's already firmly-lodged in his isolated soft room.
Even Bill O'Reilly will soon see this Looney Bird as a very real threat to his own limited existence –– & he'll toss him overboard, a'la "Lifeboat." (Isn't it nice to be able to draw analogies from Classic Films to illustrate & predict the long, fatal falls of truly non-classy people.)
Well, the noses just grow longer & moronic lies always surface & are revealed.
Bye-bye, Mister Beck. Take your Meds.
m. swof.
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Posted by: dianedp on Aug 31, 2009 11:00 AM
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Why will nobody sue when they are deliberately lied about? Why do we have to willingly accept lies as part and parcel of Fox News?
Why can republicans change but Democrats are always bad/wrong?
Mr. Beck has admitted to being an alcoholic.
Surely he knows people can change, unless he really hasn't.
His rantings and lies have become more grandiose and disturbing.
He needs some time away from tv.
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Posted by: chetdude on Aug 31, 2009 12:47 PM
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Spread it around...
And put them on the defensive for a change?
Why do we continue to allow the far-right to set the agenda?
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Aug 31, 2009 1:48 PM
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I'm confused.
The Politics of Fear 2001-2009
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Posted by: willymack on Aug 31, 2009 7:49 PM
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It's even WORSE that some people actually believe his flatulence.
It's time for the men with the nets to take beck to a special rubber room, where he can babble all he wants without annoying people with BRAINS.
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Posted by: kanekoa64 on Sep 1, 2009 9:58 PM
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So what else is new?
Basically, encouraging the self destruction of the worlds best experimental exercise in the collective expression of freedom by any one government, ever conceived, our United States of America, is what he does.
Imagine the celebration behind closed doors at Fox if all Glenn's crap gets Obama assassinated by some Right Wing freak.
Or the pill party complete with the handing out of large, brown, penis-like cigars at Rush's studio.
And this unimportant, shitty little man is gleeful about his part in tearing down all that we hold dear while hiding behind our flag and using our constitution for a diaper, despite it's inability to absorb his "boo boos".
It's to the point where we should save only his funniest shtick for posting and commentary. Reading his frothing raves or hearing his pandering, poorly acted, used car salesman voice makes me sick to my stomach.
It's becoming too much like a forced scatological examination without gloves for me anymore. I'm going to leave it for those with stronger constitutions, to keep tabs on this shameless puppet.
Watching his attempts to remain in the public eye while he says anything he can to make his audience continue listening is like being forced to watch a mentally disturbed person play with himself in public while screaming obscenities. Comparative to the effect it would have on the unprepared seeing a "Geek Show" for the first time, back in the day.
A nightmare on so many levels for all of us.
He's addicted to hearing himself crying wolf, over and over, telling people who don't see the wolf that they might, if they turn off their flashlights and squint their eyes, REALLY hard.. His viewers keep on squinting as he repeats it enough times, that it MUST be true and voila'! Magically, they begin to make out the wolf shape hidden in the amorphous, innocuous blob out there in the big, scary BLACK dark.
Like Rush, his words have no substance, solution or intent to create anything good. There is no love of country, no higher calling or righteous compassion. Just day after day of bile mustered up by bad, short order cooks, serving voluntarily blind customers so hungry to see an undisclosed, vaguely felt purpose thats been dangling under their noses their whole lives,
if he calls the fecal ramblings he spits at them Prime Rib, they eat it with gusto while he grins that sick liars grin he uses so often he no longer worries who sees him do it.
He's a disgusting human being, pitifully in need of psychiatric treatment.
And after some weeks of treatment, if he's deemed fit for trial, his sentence should befit someone so sick as to bring up Hitler for comparison to the President of the United States because of his skin color.
He has no right to say he loves the United States.
He has no reverence for it's founding ideals, it's citizens, our President or it's future. He actively obstructs civil, social and political progress that many generations of Americans have dedicated their lives to, fought and died to protect. Beyond shameful, It's downright evil in intent.
He and others like him, either do not see, or do not care about the damage they cause this country's very soul while lining their pockets.
The results are the same and soon, I fear the effects of their shortsighted, egomaniacal hackery will leave all of us to reap the bitter fruit they've sown.
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Posted by: kanekoa64 on Sep 1, 2009 9:58 PM
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So what else is new?
Basically, encouraging the self destruction of the worlds best experimental exercise in the collective expression of freedom by any one government, ever conceived, our United States of America, is what he does.
Imagine the celebration behind closed doors at Fox if all Glenn's crap gets Obama assassinated by some Right Wing freak.
Or the pill party complete with the handing out of large, brown, penis-like cigars at Rush's studio.
And this unimportant, shitty little man is gleeful about his part in tearing down all that we hold dear while hiding behind our flag and using our constitution for a diaper, despite it's inability to absorb his "boo boos".
It's to the point where we should save only his funniest shtick for posting and commentary. Reading his frothing raves or hearing his pandering, poorly acted, used car salesman voice makes me sick to my stomach.
It's becoming too much like a forced scatological examination without gloves for me anymore. I'm going to leave it for those with stronger constitutions, to keep tabs on this shameless puppet.
Watching his attempts to remain in the public eye while he says anything he can to make his audience continue listening is like being forced to watch a mentally disturbed person play with himself in public while screaming obscenities. Comparative to the effect it would have on the unprepared seeing a "Geek Show" for the first time, back in the day.
A nightmare on so many levels for all of us.
He's addicted to hearing himself crying wolf, over and over, telling people who don't see the wolf that they might, if they turn off their flashlights and squint their eyes, REALLY hard.. His viewers keep on squinting as he repeats it enough times, that it MUST be true and voila'! Magically, they begin to make out the wolf shape hidden in the amorphous, innocuous blob out there in the big, scary BLACK dark.
Like Rush, his words have no substance, solution or intent to create anything good. There is no love of country, no higher calling or righteous compassion. Just day after day of bile mustered up by bad, short order cooks, serving voluntarily blind customers so hungry to see an undisclosed, vaguely felt purpose thats been dangling under their noses their whole lives,
if he calls the fecal ramblings he spits at them Prime Rib, they eat it with gusto while he grins that sick liars grin he uses so often he no longer worries who sees him do it.
He's a disgusting human being, pitifully in need of psychiatric treatment.
And after some weeks of treatment, if he's deemed fit for trial, his sentence should befit someone so sick as to bring up Hitler for comparison to the President of the United States because of his skin color.
He has no right to say he loves the United States.
He has no reverence for it's founding ideals, it's citizens, our President or it's future. He actively obstructs civil, social and political progress that many generations of Americans have dedicated their lives to, fought and died to protect. Beyond shameful, It's downright evil in intent.
He and others like him, either do not see, or do not care about the damage they cause this country's very soul while lining their pockets.
The results are the same and soon, I fear the effects of their shortsighted, egomaniacal hackery will leave all of us to reap the bitter fruit they've sown.
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Posted by: askwhynow2day on Sep 3, 2009 10:04 AM
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Jones sounds far more threatening to me.
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Posted by: MPiano on Sep 4, 2009 10:45 AM
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Which lies?
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Posted by: HillbillyRob on Sep 4, 2009 1:03 PM
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We are taking our own home green in steps, so far we have cut our power use by 1/2 and our heating fuel by 2/3 and our gasoline use by at least half, by replacing the minivan when it finaly died with a Nissan Versa, which gets 36 mpg instead of 18 and driving the pickup less only filling it once a month instead of weekly like we used to.
We have been replacing lights with LEDs and appliances with Energy Star rated ones, as highly rated as we can afford as each old appliance reaches the end of its life.
That is called individual responsibility.
We have a solar water heater that is large enough that when installed will heat water for domestic use and for radiant heat. We have done a bunch of inulation etc so far. On sunny winter days we can open the insulated draperies on the sunny side and not even run heat. I painted the roof with Kool Seal brand reflective white and it has cut the heat gain immensely instead of being 20 degrees hotter in than out its now 10 degrees cooler and we have run no ac at all this summer. saving us about 300$ a month, not to mention the coal that would be burned to generate that power.
Eventually we will install solar electric, when we get our consumption down to where we can cover it.
We still have tv, puters etc we just use them more efficiently.
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Posted by: whole2th on Sep 5, 2009 4:04 PM
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It must be frustrating not to be free to leverage the official lies of 9/11 here on AlterNet, lest throngs of truthers shine light on the big lies of 9/11.
National Geographic now reports that 33% of Americans think the US government had something to do with 9/11. It should come as no surprise that an appointee to Obama's administration would hold the views of 33% of Americans on the topic of 9/11.
My own suspicion is that AlterNet is protecting a particular interest groupin the apparent editorial blackout of 9/11 truth materials.
Van Jones' greatest "sin" is being a 9/11 truth advocate. The rest is trumped up to distract from his "sin". Glenn Beck has clearly indicated where he stands about 9/11 truthers--equating them with supporting Al Qaeda. AlterNet seems a bit more cloaked in the editing out of 9/11 truth materials.
Again, it must be frustrating not to be able to leverage the myth of 9/11 for the purposes intended. 33% of Americans know--and counting......
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Posted by: maxfrisson on Sep 6, 2009 1:06 PM
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HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA!
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