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Nobody Knows What Nanoparticles Do -- Yet They Are in Your Food, Cosmetics, and Toys
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It's a beautiful summer day. You pull on your stain-resistant cargo shorts and odor-resistant hiking socks, gulp down an energy-boosting supplement, slather yourself with sunscreen and head out for a ramble in the woods. Are you poisoning yourself? When you get home, you jump in the shower and toss your clothes in the wash. Are you poisoning the environment? Maybe.
Your sunscreen, energy drink and high-tech clothing may be among the 800-plus consumer products made with nanomaterials: those manufactured at the scale of atoms and molecules. Sunscreen that turns clear on the skin contains titanium dioxide, an ordinary UV-blocker in extraordinarily small particles. Odor-eating socks are made with atoms of germ-killing silver. Supplement makers boast of amazing health effects from swallowing nanosolutions that are completely untested for effectiveness or safety. And that stain-repellant clothing? The manufacturer won't even tell you what nanomaterials are in it.
The problem is not just that you, the consumer, don't know what's in the products you use. The much bigger problem is that at the nanoscale, common substances behave in uncommon ways. And nobody--not even the world's leading nanoscientists--knows what nanoparticles do inside the body or in the environment.
Nanotechnology, a fast-growing global industry, is essentially unregulated. Advocates and independent scientists agree that we need to get ahead of the risks before it's too late. Some call for a moratorium on the riskiest nanoproducts. Some say we just need more research, and more protection for workers in the meantime. All are worried about unleashing a powerful new technology that could have vast unintended consquences. Nanomaterials are in food, cosmetics, clothing, toys and scores of other everyday products. Yet when it comes to trying to get a handle on them, we can't answer the most basic questions. What companies are using nanomaterials, and where? What kinds, and in what amounts? How much of the potentially hazardous stuff is escaping into the air, water and soil? Into our food and drinks? Nobody knows.
At a February workshop on what research is needed to better understand nanorisks, speaker after speaker presented questions without answers. Rutgers University environmental scientist Paul Lioy, assigned to talk about human exposures to nanomaterials, was especially blunt.
"This is basically virgin territory," he said. "The fact that it's virgin territory is not good for the field, and it should be fixed really quick."
Big Benefits, Big Risks?
Nanomaterials are not new. Some exist naturally, and others result from combustion--like the ultrafine particles in diesel exhaust that have been linked to respiratory and heart diseases.
What's new is nanotechnology, the ability to manufacture and manipulate minuscule materials into forms such as quantum dots, spherical buckyballs, and cylindrical carbon nanotubes. These engineered nanomaterials take on unusual properties: changing color, for example, or becoming electrically conductive, or penetrating cell walls. And they have many uses. Carbon nanotubes, or CNTs--made by rolling up sheets of graphite just one atom thick--are extremely light and strong; they show up in high-end tennis rackets and bicycle frames. Nanosilver is used as an antimicrobial agent in everything from paint to toothpaste to teddy bears. Nanometal oxides are blended into ceramics and coatings, making them more durable.
While there's no universal definition, the "nano" moniker generally covers materials between one and 100 nanometers. A nanometer is one billionth of a meter, or between 50,000 and 100,000 times thinner than a human hair.
Nanotech offers enormous potential benefits. Medical researchers are investigating ways to use nanomaterials to target tumors and then deliver tiny amounts of drugs directly inside the cancer cells, sparing the healthy cells. Possible green tech applications include cheaper, more efficient solar panels and water-filtration systems, energy-saving batteries and lighter vehicles that use less fuel.
That's the upside. But exciting new wonder materials often reveal a dark side, too. Asbestos--now synonymous with bankrutpcy-inducing lawsuits and slow, painful death--was once seen as a miraculous fireproofing agent that would save millions of lives. Much of its damage could have been avoided if industry and government had heeded the ample danger signs. Now, early research on the potential hazards of nanotech is producing danger signs of its own. Workers handling nanomaterials face the biggest risks. But there are concerns for consumers, too, especially with products--like cosmetics, food and supplements--that go directly on or in the body. And with potentially toxic nanomaterials washing down the drain and into the water and soil, there's reason to worry about environmental damage as well.
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Posted by: whole2th on Jul 11, 2009 3:32 AM
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Dental plastic filling materials now composed of nano particle fillers are much smoother and strong compared to more grainy and less polishable dental plastics of earlier generations.
An exotic explosive, nano thermite, has been discovered in four World Trade Center dust samples
a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14309>Turner Construction Company involvement in many aspects of World Trade Center "renovations of steel fireproofing', demolition cleanup ....seems Turner Construction has a lot more explaining to do than OBL and his 19 merry [and phantom and intelligence-connected] men. Chances of this being investigated?....very slim to none IMO, unless people push for it - and hard.
There are those who see progression in science as the bain of our culture. In the case of discovering nano-thermite in the WTC debris, this one fact overturns the official 9/11 story and will topple all the dominos.
We will get our country back to the degree that we confront pure evil. Alternet seems not to be up to the task--and seems to be COMPLICIT in the coverup by ignoring the new discoveries of 9/11 evidence that are earth-shaking.
In this cover up, those with editorial control at Alternet put themselves in a position of possible indictment for conspiracy to cover up mass murder and high treason, IMO.
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» RE: My own experience with nanoparticles--tooth repairs and 9/11
Posted by: whole2th
» "...tooth repairs and 9/11"
Posted by: GuitarBill
» The good thing: nanotechnology CAN take us to the real criminals of the 9/11 attacks
Posted by: pfgetty
» Really? Why do we need nanotechnology, when the "real criminals of the 9/11 attacks" were identified
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: My own experience with nanoparticles--tooth repairs and 9/11
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» Wayne Madsen is your source? BWAHAAHAAAHAAAHAAHAA!
Posted by: GuitarBill
» More nonsense, and how to post a link
Posted by: bingahaba
» The article's title says "Nanoparticles"; thus, I can post my off-topic 911 denier propaganda.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: The article's title says "Nanoparticles"; thus, I can post my off-topic 911 denier propaganda.
Posted by: whole2th
» I know your eyes are brown because you're full of PFConspiranoid.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» News flash:Sophia Shafquat violated the conditions of her release from the asylum.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Are you an idiot, or do you just play one on AlterNet?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» GuitarBill is part of a group called "Q". new info!
Posted by: pfgetty
» PFConspiranoid is part of a group called bat-sh*t crazies for 911 "truth".
Posted by: GuitarBill
» "...AlterNet...seems to be COMPLICIT in the coverup"? Really? No kidding?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Just mention 9/11 and asshole "guitarbill" is there to deny...
Posted by: fsuthai
» "Q Group"? More conspiranoid disinformation from Rense.com?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» More Info/Access to the towers
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» Who is Kevin Ryan, and why was he fired by Underwriters Laboratory?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Will the conspiranoids ever stop lying about bonified charlatan, Kevin Ryan?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Conspiranoid lunatics will not talk to REAL strcutural engineers. Why?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Insider Stock Trading on 911
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» Now we get the "insider stock trading" lies.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Listen @$$, you're the one making outrageous assertions, you offer proof.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Speculation is not truth and neither is vitriolic assertion.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» So where's your proof, RenseMonkey?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» "World class sophistry requires no proof."
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Sophistry? That would be your specialty, conspiranoid.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Yes, I specialize in sophistry recognition and calculus.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» You couldn't solve a simple linear equation
Posted by: GuitarBill
» None of the your three methods acounts for Bigby's paradox.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» A linear equation has no solution it simply describes two or more points on a graph.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» A linear equation has no solution? Really? No kidding?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Bigby's paradox. LOL! You really are a idiot, aren't you?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» This is brought to you by the "Q" group
Posted by: pfgetty
» Wayne Madsen's hearsay isn't proof.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Mike Ruppert's "From The Wilderness"? That's your proof.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» 9-11 Blowback: it's the gravity, stupid
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Yo conspiranois! Can you offer anything more than your opinion?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Hani Hanjour... Stunt Pilot?
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» Let's hear what Hani Hanjour's flight instructor has to say.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» GuitarBill IS Q group. Is Alternet?
Posted by: pfgetty
» PFConspiranoid is irresponsible, insane and brain-dead.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Let's hear what Hani Hanjour's flight instructor has to say.
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» So what? You've offered not a shred of evidence to prove that he's "Mossad".
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Your timing is off and your formula for converting meters to gallons is incorrect.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» I never converted "meters to gallons"--you idiot.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Yes you did we all saw it just before your argument collapsed in 8 seconds.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Nonsense. What the Hell are talking about, lunatic?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» GuitarBill equals the "Q" group
Posted by: pfgetty
» Yeah, and PFConspiranoid equals Al Qeada.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Your calculations fail to account for the elevated gravitational pull unique to Lower Manhattan.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» @$$, you couldn't solve a quadratic equation. 6th grade mathematics is beyond you, conspiranoid.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Cell Phone Calls From Over 8000 Ft? Maybe Not...
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» They didn't use cell phones, @$$.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: They didn't use cell phones, @$$.
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» RE: They didn't use cell phones, @$$. umm wrong...
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» Even David Ray Grifter admitted he was wrong about air phones on Fl 77.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» More from the Q group
Posted by: pfgetty
» Jeff Rense posted this disinformation to his conspiranoid site yesterday.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» The words coming from GuitarBill are words coming from the "Q" group
Posted by: pfgetty
» No my comments are mine, and mine only.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Go ahead and post one, I'll give it a go.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Hurry it up Bill, my mom says I have to go to bed.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» So, how bedrooms does your trailer have, RenseMonkey?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» I live in Area 51, what is a bedroom?
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Gee, and I thought you crawled out of a petri dish.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» I have a master degree in mathematics, RenseMonkey.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» That' not a quadratic equation. But I'm guessing...
Posted by: grindermonkey
» You brought it up
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Your marriage and family are not the issue here, Bill.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Typical conspiranoid. All talk and no brains.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» You have presented math but have failed to explain its application.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Calculate the subsidy that this unpermitted demolition job provided the owner.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» More proof that you're an idiot.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» If a truculent mathematician with arcane formulae is all Q has, then we have triumphed.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» But you claimed to be an expert at Calculus.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Learn about the Q group (guitarBill)
Posted by: pfgetty
» How many times are going to post this hearsay, PF?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Oh, we'll see this a lot.............
Posted by: pfgetty
» Show me evidence it is not true.
Posted by: pfgetty
» The proof that he's lying is that he offers no evidence, you idiot.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» If that were the case, then the official 9/11 story is proven false right there.
Posted by: pfgetty
» What evidence? You've never given me one shred of evidence.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» We have given you evidence and proof.
Posted by: pfgetty
» Again idiot, Madsen's opinion is not evidence.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Here's who hires GuitarBill
Posted by: pfgetty
» That video isn't evidence, it's hearsay.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» You don't have any evidence, and that's why the media ignores you lunatics.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Ten reasons to realize that NIST leaders are criminal and should be prosecuted.
Posted by: pfgetty
» Tell us, Pinnochio, why was Kevin Ryan fired by Underwriters Laboratory?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Listen to the interview of Kevin
Posted by: pfgetty
» Kevin Ryan is a liar, and he was fired for lying.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Proven liar? Prove to me he's a liar.
Posted by: pfgetty
» The proof is in the article I hyperlinked--you computer illiterate idiot.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» That sounds like a threat, PFConspiranoid.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» That wasn't a threat from me, stupid.
Posted by: pfgetty
» It wasn't a threat? And AlterNet doesn't agree with you, conspiranoid.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Talk about paranoia! Wow!
Posted by: pfgetty
» Talk about a liar. WOW!
Posted by: GuitarBill
» We KNOW where you work, who you work for!!!!!
Posted by: pfgetty
» Yeah, we know who you work for, PFConspiranoid: Al Qeada and the neo-Nazis.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Yeah, we know who you work for, PFConspiranoid: Al Qeada and the neo-Nazis.
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» GuitarBill, do you think what the Q group is doing is legal and ethical?
Posted by: pfgetty
» The "Q Group" doesn't exist. And if Madsen had REAL evidence, he'd provide it.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Anger management, GB, anger management.
Posted by: pfgetty
» What was that, you lying neo-Nazi scumbag? I'm not angry, you're just making shit up.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» It's just sort of odd how vicious you got when I mentioned the "Q" group
Posted by: pfgetty
» It's not "odd" You're a liar, and I despise liars.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» NOW THAT IS A THREAT!!!!!
Posted by: pfgetty
» Yes, make shit up and prey it sticks.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» It's just sort of odd how vicious you got when I mentioned the "Q" group
Posted by: pfgetty
» "Q Group"? Your source is "Russia Today". LOL! What next, Pravda?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» When asked for evidence by Russia Today, Madsen gives the following non-answer:
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Yo PF! Wayne Madsen showed me documents which prove you're a member of Al Qeada.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» To anyone truly interested in learning about the events of 9/11/01, here are some places to start:
Posted by: LeftWright
» Conspiranoids refuse to speak to REAL structural engineers or read the NIST Report. Why?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Two excellent videos which DEBUNK the 911 deniers.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Ex-FBI Agent Coleen Rowley: 'Why I Support a New 9/11 Investigation'
Posted by: LeftWright
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Posted by: badkitty68 on Jul 11, 2009 5:06 AM
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Number two, one can never accurately extrapolate animal data to humans - ever. It has become clear in recent years that sometimes data can't be extrapolated from one gender to the other in clinical trials.
Test all your little toxic creations on yourselves and leave the animals alone. They are not your disposable "tools", asswipe.
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» Lighten up, she only wants to check their biosolids
Posted by: grindermonkey
» RE: Lighten up, she only wants to check their biosolids
Posted by: badkitty68
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Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Jul 11, 2009 9:26 AM
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» Huh?
Posted by: bingahaba
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 11, 2009 9:53 AM
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» Metaphysics deals with "nothing."
Posted by: grindermonkey
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jul 11, 2009 10:06 AM
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But no, we won't be. Not when there is profit to be made in being the first to corner the market. So, expect to see some other health problems arise due to our intellectual arrogance, lack of foresight and ordinary caution; of course, by then, they'll be another "miraculous new technology" that will claim to cure the ills of this one – and it, too, will command a high price and profit for its makers as well, and also will most likely produce threats to health of its own.
We are screwing around with biological relationships and interdependency that have been developed over millions of years; and, so far, our efforts have been divided between some improvements and sometimes catastrophic results. So is time, once again, to seriously ask ourselves, just who does technology serve – and just because we CAN, does that mean we always, always SHOULD?
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» Nanodollars for nano products becuase we must.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» RE: Will this be "money wins, we lose" once again?
Posted by: madregal
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Posted by: atomic on Jul 11, 2009 5:28 PM
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Posted by: Bearzerker on Jul 12, 2009 2:20 PM
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nana particles can grandmother the nano ones maybe too
anyways, the the good that can come from inert nano particles can outweigh the negatives, only time will tell tho and people should be aware of any risks in products with them in it.
the science community is all hush hush about the medical implications that these little guys can do to our benefit.. we don't need scary articles to undue the serious good that will come from this research
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Posted by: Changling on Jul 13, 2009 11:36 AM
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The dangers can outweigh the benefits easily. Unforeseen consequences will abound the longer it is allowed to be wedded to profit first, not our survival.
A Type 1 society wouldn't be making these kinds of errors. They would know better and wouldn't be tempted by such superficial trivialities as financial corporate profit.
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Posted by: pjnaltykins on Jul 19, 2009 8:03 PM
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Cut the sh*t, guys! Get a room or something.
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Posted by: whole2th on Jul 11, 2009 3:32 AM
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Dental plastic filling materials now composed of nano particle fillers are much smoother and strong compared to more grainy and less polishable dental plastics of earlier generations.
An exotic explosive, nano thermite, has been discovered in four World Trade Center dust samples
a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14309>Turner Construction Company involvement in many aspects of World Trade Center "renovations of steel fireproofing', demolition cleanup ....seems Turner Construction has a lot more explaining to do than OBL and his 19 merry [and phantom and intelligence-connected] men. Chances of this being investigated?....very slim to none IMO, unless people push for it - and hard.
There are those who see progression in science as the bain of our culture. In the case of discovering nano-thermite in the WTC debris, this one fact overturns the official 9/11 story and will topple all the dominos.
We will get our country back to the degree that we confront pure evil. Alternet seems not to be up to the task--and seems to be COMPLICIT in the coverup by ignoring the new discoveries of 9/11 evidence that are earth-shaking.
In this cover up, those with editorial control at Alternet put themselves in a position of possible indictment for conspiracy to cover up mass murder and high treason, IMO.
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» RE: My own experience with nanoparticles--tooth repairs and 9/11
Posted by: whole2th
» "...tooth repairs and 9/11"
Posted by: GuitarBill
» The good thing: nanotechnology CAN take us to the real criminals of the 9/11 attacks
Posted by: pfgetty
» Really? Why do we need nanotechnology, when the "real criminals of the 9/11 attacks" were identified
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: My own experience with nanoparticles--tooth repairs and 9/11
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» Wayne Madsen is your source? BWAHAAHAAAHAAAHAAHAA!
Posted by: GuitarBill
» More nonsense, and how to post a link
Posted by: bingahaba
» The article's title says "Nanoparticles"; thus, I can post my off-topic 911 denier propaganda.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: The article's title says "Nanoparticles"; thus, I can post my off-topic 911 denier propaganda.
Posted by: whole2th
» I know your eyes are brown because you're full of PFConspiranoid.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» News flash:Sophia Shafquat violated the conditions of her release from the asylum.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Are you an idiot, or do you just play one on AlterNet?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» GuitarBill is part of a group called "Q". new info!
Posted by: pfgetty
» PFConspiranoid is part of a group called bat-sh*t crazies for 911 "truth".
Posted by: GuitarBill
» "...AlterNet...seems to be COMPLICIT in the coverup"? Really? No kidding?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Just mention 9/11 and asshole "guitarbill" is there to deny...
Posted by: fsuthai
» "Q Group"? More conspiranoid disinformation from Rense.com?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» More Info/Access to the towers
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» Who is Kevin Ryan, and why was he fired by Underwriters Laboratory?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Will the conspiranoids ever stop lying about bonified charlatan, Kevin Ryan?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Conspiranoid lunatics will not talk to REAL strcutural engineers. Why?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Insider Stock Trading on 911
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» Now we get the "insider stock trading" lies.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Listen @$$, you're the one making outrageous assertions, you offer proof.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Speculation is not truth and neither is vitriolic assertion.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» So where's your proof, RenseMonkey?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» "World class sophistry requires no proof."
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Sophistry? That would be your specialty, conspiranoid.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Yes, I specialize in sophistry recognition and calculus.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» You couldn't solve a simple linear equation
Posted by: GuitarBill
» None of the your three methods acounts for Bigby's paradox.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» A linear equation has no solution it simply describes two or more points on a graph.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» A linear equation has no solution? Really? No kidding?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Bigby's paradox. LOL! You really are a idiot, aren't you?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» This is brought to you by the "Q" group
Posted by: pfgetty
» Wayne Madsen's hearsay isn't proof.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Mike Ruppert's "From The Wilderness"? That's your proof.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» 9-11 Blowback: it's the gravity, stupid
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Yo conspiranois! Can you offer anything more than your opinion?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Hani Hanjour... Stunt Pilot?
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» Let's hear what Hani Hanjour's flight instructor has to say.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» GuitarBill IS Q group. Is Alternet?
Posted by: pfgetty
» PFConspiranoid is irresponsible, insane and brain-dead.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Let's hear what Hani Hanjour's flight instructor has to say.
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» So what? You've offered not a shred of evidence to prove that he's "Mossad".
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Your timing is off and your formula for converting meters to gallons is incorrect.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» I never converted "meters to gallons"--you idiot.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Yes you did we all saw it just before your argument collapsed in 8 seconds.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Nonsense. What the Hell are talking about, lunatic?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» GuitarBill equals the "Q" group
Posted by: pfgetty
» Yeah, and PFConspiranoid equals Al Qeada.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Your calculations fail to account for the elevated gravitational pull unique to Lower Manhattan.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» @$$, you couldn't solve a quadratic equation. 6th grade mathematics is beyond you, conspiranoid.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Cell Phone Calls From Over 8000 Ft? Maybe Not...
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» They didn't use cell phones, @$$.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: They didn't use cell phones, @$$.
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» RE: They didn't use cell phones, @$$. umm wrong...
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» Even David Ray Grifter admitted he was wrong about air phones on Fl 77.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» More from the Q group
Posted by: pfgetty
» Jeff Rense posted this disinformation to his conspiranoid site yesterday.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» The words coming from GuitarBill are words coming from the "Q" group
Posted by: pfgetty
» No my comments are mine, and mine only.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Go ahead and post one, I'll give it a go.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Hurry it up Bill, my mom says I have to go to bed.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» So, how bedrooms does your trailer have, RenseMonkey?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» I live in Area 51, what is a bedroom?
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Gee, and I thought you crawled out of a petri dish.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» I have a master degree in mathematics, RenseMonkey.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» That' not a quadratic equation. But I'm guessing...
Posted by: grindermonkey
» You brought it up
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Your marriage and family are not the issue here, Bill.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Typical conspiranoid. All talk and no brains.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» You have presented math but have failed to explain its application.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» Calculate the subsidy that this unpermitted demolition job provided the owner.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» More proof that you're an idiot.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» If a truculent mathematician with arcane formulae is all Q has, then we have triumphed.
Posted by: grindermonkey
» But you claimed to be an expert at Calculus.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Learn about the Q group (guitarBill)
Posted by: pfgetty
» How many times are going to post this hearsay, PF?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Oh, we'll see this a lot.............
Posted by: pfgetty
» Show me evidence it is not true.
Posted by: pfgetty
» The proof that he's lying is that he offers no evidence, you idiot.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» If that were the case, then the official 9/11 story is proven false right there.
Posted by: pfgetty
» What evidence? You've never given me one shred of evidence.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» We have given you evidence and proof.
Posted by: pfgetty
» Again idiot, Madsen's opinion is not evidence.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Here's who hires GuitarBill
Posted by: pfgetty
» That video isn't evidence, it's hearsay.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» You don't have any evidence, and that's why the media ignores you lunatics.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Ten reasons to realize that NIST leaders are criminal and should be prosecuted.
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» Tell us, Pinnochio, why was Kevin Ryan fired by Underwriters Laboratory?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Listen to the interview of Kevin
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» Kevin Ryan is a liar, and he was fired for lying.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Proven liar? Prove to me he's a liar.
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» The proof is in the article I hyperlinked--you computer illiterate idiot.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» That sounds like a threat, PFConspiranoid.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» That wasn't a threat from me, stupid.
Posted by: pfgetty
» It wasn't a threat? And AlterNet doesn't agree with you, conspiranoid.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Talk about paranoia! Wow!
Posted by: pfgetty
» Talk about a liar. WOW!
Posted by: GuitarBill
» We KNOW where you work, who you work for!!!!!
Posted by: pfgetty
» Yeah, we know who you work for, PFConspiranoid: Al Qeada and the neo-Nazis.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Yeah, we know who you work for, PFConspiranoid: Al Qeada and the neo-Nazis.
Posted by: MyLeftFoot
» GuitarBill, do you think what the Q group is doing is legal and ethical?
Posted by: pfgetty
» The "Q Group" doesn't exist. And if Madsen had REAL evidence, he'd provide it.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Anger management, GB, anger management.
Posted by: pfgetty
» What was that, you lying neo-Nazi scumbag? I'm not angry, you're just making shit up.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» It's just sort of odd how vicious you got when I mentioned the "Q" group
Posted by: pfgetty
» It's not "odd" You're a liar, and I despise liars.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» NOW THAT IS A THREAT!!!!!
Posted by: pfgetty
» Yes, make shit up and prey it sticks.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» It's just sort of odd how vicious you got when I mentioned the "Q" group
Posted by: pfgetty
» "Q Group"? Your source is "Russia Today". LOL! What next, Pravda?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» When asked for evidence by Russia Today, Madsen gives the following non-answer:
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Yo PF! Wayne Madsen showed me documents which prove you're a member of Al Qeada.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» To anyone truly interested in learning about the events of 9/11/01, here are some places to start:
Posted by: LeftWright
» Conspiranoids refuse to speak to REAL structural engineers or read the NIST Report. Why?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Two excellent videos which DEBUNK the 911 deniers.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Ex-FBI Agent Coleen Rowley: 'Why I Support a New 9/11 Investigation'
Posted by: LeftWright
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Posted by: badkitty68 on Jul 11, 2009 5:06 AM
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Number two, one can never accurately extrapolate animal data to humans - ever. It has become clear in recent years that sometimes data can't be extrapolated from one gender to the other in clinical trials.
Test all your little toxic creations on yourselves and leave the animals alone. They are not your disposable "tools", asswipe.
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» Lighten up, she only wants to check their biosolids
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» RE: Lighten up, she only wants to check their biosolids
Posted by: badkitty68
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Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Jul 11, 2009 9:26 AM
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» Huh?
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 11, 2009 9:53 AM
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» Metaphysics deals with "nothing."
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jul 11, 2009 10:06 AM
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But no, we won't be. Not when there is profit to be made in being the first to corner the market. So, expect to see some other health problems arise due to our intellectual arrogance, lack of foresight and ordinary caution; of course, by then, they'll be another "miraculous new technology" that will claim to cure the ills of this one – and it, too, will command a high price and profit for its makers as well, and also will most likely produce threats to health of its own.
We are screwing around with biological relationships and interdependency that have been developed over millions of years; and, so far, our efforts have been divided between some improvements and sometimes catastrophic results. So is time, once again, to seriously ask ourselves, just who does technology serve – and just because we CAN, does that mean we always, always SHOULD?
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» Nanodollars for nano products becuase we must.
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» RE: Will this be "money wins, we lose" once again?
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Posted by: atomic on Jul 11, 2009 5:28 PM
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Posted by: Bearzerker on Jul 12, 2009 2:20 PM
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nana particles can grandmother the nano ones maybe too
anyways, the the good that can come from inert nano particles can outweigh the negatives, only time will tell tho and people should be aware of any risks in products with them in it.
the science community is all hush hush about the medical implications that these little guys can do to our benefit.. we don't need scary articles to undue the serious good that will come from this research
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Posted by: Changling on Jul 13, 2009 11:36 AM
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The dangers can outweigh the benefits easily. Unforeseen consequences will abound the longer it is allowed to be wedded to profit first, not our survival.
A Type 1 society wouldn't be making these kinds of errors. They would know better and wouldn't be tempted by such superficial trivialities as financial corporate profit.
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Posted by: pjnaltykins on Jul 19, 2009 8:03 PM
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Cut the sh*t, guys! Get a room or something.
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