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Why Silk Soy Milk's Parent Company Is Throwing American Farmers and Consumers Under the Bus
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Even as demand for organic food continues to explode, organic farmers in America are getting thrown under the beet cart they helped build.
The Chinese are taking over market share, especially of vegetables and agricultural commodities like soy, thanks to several American-based multinational food corporations that have hijacked the organic bandwagon they only recently jumped onto.
When megacorporation Dean Foods acquired Silk soy milk the prospects looked good for American organic soy farmers. Silk had always been committed to supporting domestic organic farmers, and with the new might of Dean Foods behind it, Silk would likely grow. Silk did grow, but it also dropped its commitment to domestic soy.
Multiple Midwestern farmers and farmers cooperatives in the heart of American soy country were told by Silk they had to match the rock-bottom cost of Chinese organic soybeans -- a price they simply could not meet. Organic agriculture is labor-intensive, and China's edge comes largely from its abundance of cheap labor.
"Dean Foods had the opportunity to push organic and sustainable agriculture to incredible heights of production by working with North American farmers and traders to get more land in organic production," says Merle Kramer, a marketer for the Midwestern Organic Farmers Cooperative, based in Michigan. "But what they did was pit cheap foreign soybeans against the U.S. organic farmer, taking away any attraction for conventional farmers to make the move into sustainable agriculture."
Silk bought Chinese soybeans for years, building a commanding share of the soy milk market, before substantially decreasing its support of organic agriculture altogether.
Few Silk products are certified organic anymore, and some are processed with hexane, a neurotoxin. The use of hexane poses risks to workers in the plants and possibly the consumers of the product and is listed as an air pollutant by EPA. In Illinois alone, 5 million pounds of hexane are released into the environment by food processors Bunge, Cargill and Arthur Daniels Midland.
While the green "USDA Organic" seal is gone, hexane-processed soymilk can still be labeled "natural," and if it contains organic ingredients, the label "made with organic ingredients" is still used.
A recent USDA report, "Emerging Issues in the U.S. Organic Industry," points out two notable trends in American food: Conventional food corporations are taking over successful independent organic companies, and the corporations are becoming increasingly dependent on imported ingredients.
While the retail price of "Chi-ganic" produce remains the same as what consumers were paying for domestic organic, there's reason to believe the quality is lower. At Whole Foods, for example, labels that read "USDA inspected" are stuck onto imported produce. According to "Behind the Bean," a recent study by Wisconsin's Cornucopia Institute, the USDA's record with food imported from China is fraught with irregularities.
"[USDA] found multiple noncompliances of the federal organic standards, [including] the failure of one certifying agent to hire Chinese inspectors that are adequately familiar with the USDA organic standards, and the failure by another organic certifying agent to provide a written and translated copy of the USDA organic standards to all clients applying for certification. This raises serious concerns about whether foods grown organically in China follow the same USDA organic standards with which we require American farmers to comply."
A stand at my local farmers market has a sign that says "Boycott Chinese Garlic." China currently supplies 75 percent of the garlic sold in the U.S., for an average price of 50 cents a pound. Two years ago, it was 25 cents a pound. Even with the price of garlic up from 25 to 50 cents a pound, large garlic growers and whole garlic-growing regions like Gilroy, Calif., are hurting. Gilroy used to be known as the nation's garlic capital. In addition to garlic cultivation, a retail empire was built on value-added products made with garlic. Now, Gilroy is just a garlic-processing capital, because most of its supply comes from China.
One advantage local garlic producers have going for them is that most Chinese garlic is the soft-neck variety, which is inferior -- in terms of flavor, clove size and peelability -- to the hard-neck varieties favored by many American garlic growers. But while farmers markets are spreading like weeds and creating ever more opportunities for consumers to buy the good stuff directly from growers, most Americans continue to reach for the netted bulbs of garlic within easy reach at the supermarket, or jars of peeled and chopped garlic.
Consumers buy organic for several reasons, including lighter environmental impact, cleaner and safer working conditions for farmworkers and the perceived health benefits of organic foods -- or at least their lack of toxic health detriments. Unfortunately, the import-fueled corporatization of questionably organic food is making all of these attributes less likely.
Silk's road to China is a well-worn trail and further evidence that organic as we knew it is dead, replaced by gigantic "Chi-ganic" corporations that are in it for all the wrong reasons.
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Posted by: jcalhoun on Jul 9, 2009 12:00 PM
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Dean Foods
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Dallas, TX 75201
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» Boycott all Dean soy products!
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» Thanks. I'm writing, and I'm done with Silk.
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Posted by: luzmejor on Jul 14, 2009 10:32 AM
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Well, it had to happen in America, because the freedom that is prized now is the freedom to cheat the customer and get more money for the CEO.
And now producers all over the world have been likewise corrupted by greed as well as by necessity of competition in a market set by our own lawmakers.
It is time to demand laws to give customers an even break..
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Posted by: Recher on Jul 14, 2009 10:58 AM
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MAKE YOUR OWN SOYA MILK! works out at about 80 cents a quart for organic
cheap, quick delicious
This is the traditional recipe
soak x amount of soya beans over nite
put into blender with water
blend
put mash and water into cooking pot
add more water
bring to boil
remove from heat and strain
Voila! soya milk
Use the amount of water to 'dilute' soya milk to your own liking
add malt, etc if you like
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» And not only but also --- Nut milk
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» RE: Silk is on the shelf...in small towns across America
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Posted by: reason2believe on Jul 14, 2009 1:40 PM
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Big corp=stockmarket
stockmarket=monetary profits for investors
profit demands=no humanitarian conscience.
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Posted by: TomOfMaine on Jul 14, 2009 4:32 PM
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» Amazed again....
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» Fine print...
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» grown "exclusively" in US or Mexico or China
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» RE: Chinese soy underselling growers here.
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» That book is meat/dairy industry propaganda
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Posted by: weathered on Jul 15, 2009 2:22 AM
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Vote w/your Wallet.
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jul 15, 2009 3:23 AM
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Posted by: sunnywater on Jul 15, 2009 3:53 AM
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The huge jump in childhood food allergies in the US is in the news often[1], but most reports fail to consider a link to a recent radical change in America’s diet. Beginning in 1996, bacteria, virus and other genes have been artificially inserted to the DNA of soy, corn, cottonseed and canola plants. These unlabeled genetically modified (GM) foods carry a risk of triggering life-threatening allergic reactions, and evidence collected over the past decade now suggests that they are contributing to higher allergy rates.
The introduction of genetically engineered foods into our diet was done quietly and without the mandatory labeling that is required in most other industrialized countries. Without knowing that GM foods might increase the risk of allergies, and without knowing which foods contain GM ingredients, the biotech industry is gambling with our health for their profit. This risk is not lost on everyone. In fact, millions of shoppers are now seeking foods that are free from any GM ingredients. Ohio-based allergy specialist John Boyles, MD, says, “I used to test for soy allergies all the time, but now that soy is genetically engineered, it is so dangerous that I tell people never to eat it—unless it says organic.”
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» Silk TV ads
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Posted by: Jasonix on Jul 15, 2009 5:06 AM
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Soy contains isoflavones that convert to synthetic estrogen in your body. Human beings have never eat soy in the quantity that modern Americans do now. In Asia, where soy is a mere condiment, men suffer from greater higher rates of Alzheimer's and dementia. Care to bet what's going to happen to you after 30 years of eating 10 times the amount of soy protein that an Asian eats?
Soy milk and fake-meat is a heavily-processed food that often contains high amounts of aluminum as a result of the process.
So ditch the Silk.
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» Rice milk/ isoflavone misinformation
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Posted by: snowhound on Jul 15, 2009 5:35 AM
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Posted by: ellie on Jul 15, 2009 5:35 AM
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remember a few years ago a story about a small farmer in ohio being one of the few growers of non-GMO soybeans and almost his entire crop is sent to Japan each year... he was then under heavy pressure to grow GMO soy, and was still holding out by seed saving year to year, but his fields were slowly being contaminated by surrounding growers and his yields were dropping each year... don't know if he's still in business... the problem seems to be that it's next to impossible for a farmer to get his hands on seed stock that has not been modified...
seems the entire soy industry is polluted and has been for a long time now... soy is not vital to life guys... time to drop it off the grocery list... for those lactose intolerant folks, add soy to the no-list and learn to live without (includes me)...
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» I'm not convinced...Got some references?
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» Got some references? Yes, references, and medical experiences too
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Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale on Jul 15, 2009 6:24 AM
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Thanks to the posters above on the way to make it yourself.
Although the idea that it effects the thyroid is food for thought and I am going to research that. Thanks.
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Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jul 15, 2009 6:35 AM
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MIllions if not tens of millions of US jobs have vanished since 1974 because of "free trade" embraced by BOTH parties. Tariffs now on Asia. To hell with their threats not to buy any American goods. They replace American goods as soon as they can anyway. When the rest of the world sees we have the guts to take on Japan, India and China, they will open their markets and compete more fairly. And if not? No more polo shirts from Central Amrica! And yes, we WILL live without diamonds from South Africa. But I believe South Africa will be more reasonable that China, the Empire of Greed itself.
Yes we may pay more. But we will have jobs, real making things jobs to pay the price hike. Better than unemployment or parttime employment or employment with no benefits. Cut off immigration from Asia totally as well. That will hit them where it hurts.
And did I mention Israel, Iraq and India are part of Asia. Oh goshy goo-no more radiologists from Asia. Who will ever read the screens? AMERICANS trained in US schools.That's who.
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Posted by: sausage on Jul 15, 2009 6:49 AM
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Could it be he's a corporate whore?
He sure was as governor.
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Posted by: stina723 on Jul 15, 2009 7:02 AM
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Whole Foods is guilty of sourcing food from China. I bought the ORGANIC 365 brand of frozen broccoli a couple years ago. I casually started to read the bag as I was cooking it over the stove. Well in really small print at the bottom of the bag were the words "product of china". I was livid. I emailed whole foods and was told that their inspectors (whole foods) actually go over to China and inspect the food. (got a good laugh out of that one). But on their website, they had some marketing/PR bs about food being local and from "right outside your front door". Last time I looked, China was not outside my front door. I do not trust the Whole Foods 365 or organic 365 label. Actually, I don't trust Whole Foods at all. I stopped buying the Whole Foods brand after the Chinese Broccoli fiasco. And I started shopping at the farmers market across the street. Better quality food and the amount of $$ I spend at whole foods greatly reduced so F**k them.
Only way to fight this is to boycott or not buy.
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Posted by: redbridge on Jul 15, 2009 7:49 AM
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Couldn't help myself ... especially since the first two names in that trio are a couple of the most butchered surnames ever spoken here along the northern Mississippi.
They all get me giggling.
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Posted by: sakul72 on Jul 15, 2009 8:48 AM
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http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/
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» I'm not so sure I'd trust these folks
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» another biased meat/dairy industry propaganda site
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» RE: ...and the militant vegetarians and vegans are coming out of the woodwork.
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Posted by: donnambirdlady on Jul 15, 2009 9:15 AM
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It has gotten a little more difficult to maintain my personal boycott lately since my local store seems to have dropped many of the Organic Valley Products from their shelves. I might have to switch to another store for my weekly shopping trip. Fortunately there is more than one health food chain in my community.
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» RE: there are better (tasting) alternatives!
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Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Jul 15, 2009 10:44 AM
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And now this. Thanks Alternet. I will adjust my consumption accordingly, even if it costs me more.
And why do we the people put up with all these free trade agreements that screw our producers and threaten our health and the environment?!?
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Posted by: smadaj on Jul 15, 2009 11:14 AM
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I wrote to Dean Foods, also. In addition to the CEO address at the top of this comments page, there is the consumer response address, which is DEAN FOODS CONSUMER RESPONSE, P.O. BOX 763, HORSHAM, PA 19044-0763. I told them I will not be purchasing any DEAN FOODS products anymore, and put in a request for them to purchase from American organic farmers. For what it's worth, which I doubt will be much, but, perhaps if they hear enough, they might do something. Probably figure out more clever ways to mislabel their products....
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Posted by: bkochandco on Jul 15, 2009 12:07 PM
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The term "natural" has no meaning when applied to store bought goods. Hemlock is natural but it will still kill you.
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Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Jul 15, 2009 12:32 PM
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That being said, I wouldn't totally dismiss any article speaking out against soy, but I would certainly encourage approaching these articles with a healthy dose of scepticism, just as one should approach any study. That is the scientific method. Anyway, one has to beware of many of these sources of information, especially if they don't cite or post any articles that don't support their preconceived notions or conclusions, ie "SoyOnline Service".
As a vegetarian who consumes considerable soy, who also has not experienced dementia, femininity, decreased fertility, cancer or inflamed thyroid (these are all claims Soyonline Service makes), I will still investigate soy. However, I will also be very aware of the source and their citings. The following article I found was a good start, and it looks at both sides of the story: linked text Any article or website that does not, is garbage. And that goes for whichever side is being presented.
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Posted by: rmjustice on Jul 15, 2009 12:52 PM
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I looked up the ph. #, called, asked for Mr. Engles and was put right through to his secretary.
I left a message stating that I was a consumer who would no longer purchase Silk and explained why. Anyone else can too!
the number is: (214) 303-3400
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Posted by: MotherLodeBeth on Jul 15, 2009 1:08 PM
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Posted by: DragonTat2 on Jul 15, 2009 1:24 PM
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As for the Silk company, I hope they choke.
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Posted by: crobo on Jul 15, 2009 2:51 PM
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"Ingredients: Organic soymilk (Filtered Water, Whole Organic Soybeans), . . ."
On Their website, SilkSoymilk.com, there's a document entitled, Soybean Sourcing and Production Program, which states that All Silk soybeans – certified organic and those naturally produced without the use of genetic modification (GMO) – are currently sourced in North America. [p. 4 of 11]
How does this information fit in with this article and why are loyal users of Silk products jumping off after reading this piece?
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Posted by: Beverlee C on Jul 15, 2009 5:00 PM
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this makes me sick.
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» RE: North America means Mexico, US or Canada .. Mexico better source than China?!
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Posted by: armorypk on Jul 15, 2009 7:44 PM
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(Caution - Strong Language)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCZRXW-pFcE
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Posted by: jarbo on Jul 20, 2009 2:57 AM
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Got this reply - (love the "corporatespeak":
Thank you for contacting WhiteWave Foods. We appreciate the opportunity to address your comments.
In 2008 Silk® partnered with Conservation International to create Silk’s Soybean Sourcing and Production Program, which reinforces our values and commitment to sourcing soybeans that are produced in a sustainable, socially responsible and ethical manner. We are very proud of this work, and are continuing our work with Conservation International on future initiatives.
Here are a few of the highlights from Silk’s Sourcing Program:
• Currently, we source all of our beans from North America. If the product is from Silk, the soybeans are from North America.
• Silk is not sourcing beans from China. In the past, we have sourced a small portion of beans from China. Silk stopped contracting for soybeans from China at the end of 2006.
• We only partner with suppliers that can produce beans that pass our robust quality testing and evaluation protocols.
• All Silk soybeans – non-genetically modified organism (GMO) and organic – are currently sourced domestically.
• Our non-GMO beans are put through robust quality testing and evaluation protocols.
• We have comprehensive testing protocols in place to detect GMOs, pesticide residue and other potential contaminants – all of which are above and beyond regulatory requirements.
• Organic soybeans purchased by Silk are certified organic by independent agencies accredited by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), in compliance with the organic standards set by the National Organic Program (NOP).
For further information, we encourage you to visit our Web site: (http://www.silksoymilk.com/SourcingProgram.aspx). We appreciate your ongoing support, and remain committed to consistently providing consumers with high-quality, great-tasting soymilk.
Sincerely,
Alberto Vasquez
Consumer Response Representative
Ref: N937347
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Posted by: Jarod on Jul 30, 2009 2:58 PM
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Silk does not use hexane within the manufacturing of any of our products
Currently, we source all of our beans from North America. If the product is from Silk, the soybeans are from North America.
Silk does not source beans from China. In the past, we have sourced a small portion of certified organic beans from China. Silk stopped contracting for soybeans from China at the end of 2006.
Silk is proud to continue offering the same certified organic products we always have, available in Plain, Vanilla and Unsweetened half gallons. If the product says it’s organic, it is.
We also offer these products and additional flavors as natural products, made with non-GMO soybeans.
Last year, we embarked on a multi-year partnership with Conservation International. We developed a Soybean Sourcing Production Program to reinforce our values and commitment to sourcing soybeans that are produced in a sustainable, socially responsible and ethical manner. The program is featured on our website if you have time to take a look - www.silksoymilk.com
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Posted by: jcalhoun on Jul 9, 2009 12:00 PM
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Dean Foods
2515 McKinney Avenue Suite 1200
Dallas, TX 75201
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» Boycott all Dean soy products!
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» Thanks. I'm writing, and I'm done with Silk.
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Posted by: luzmejor on Jul 14, 2009 10:32 AM
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Well, it had to happen in America, because the freedom that is prized now is the freedom to cheat the customer and get more money for the CEO.
And now producers all over the world have been likewise corrupted by greed as well as by necessity of competition in a market set by our own lawmakers.
It is time to demand laws to give customers an even break..
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Posted by: Recher on Jul 14, 2009 10:58 AM
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MAKE YOUR OWN SOYA MILK! works out at about 80 cents a quart for organic
cheap, quick delicious
This is the traditional recipe
soak x amount of soya beans over nite
put into blender with water
blend
put mash and water into cooking pot
add more water
bring to boil
remove from heat and strain
Voila! soya milk
Use the amount of water to 'dilute' soya milk to your own liking
add malt, etc if you like
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» RE: what did you expect?
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» And not only but also --- Nut milk
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Posted by: Salt Lakce City, Utah on Jul 14, 2009 11:34 AM
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» RE: Cannot email Dean Foods to comment!
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Posted by: kewpie on Jul 14, 2009 11:35 AM
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» RE: DEAN is a dairy powerhouse anyway
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Posted by: oldhippie on Jul 14, 2009 12:10 PM
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» RE: Silk is on the shelf...in small towns across America
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Posted by: reason2believe on Jul 14, 2009 1:40 PM
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Big corp=stockmarket
stockmarket=monetary profits for investors
profit demands=no humanitarian conscience.
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Posted by: TomOfMaine on Jul 14, 2009 4:32 PM
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» Amazed again....
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» Fine print...
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» grown "exclusively" in US or Mexico or China
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Posted by: Gerald on Jul 14, 2009 10:21 PM
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» RE: Chinese soy underselling growers here.
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» That book is meat/dairy industry propaganda
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Posted by: weathered on Jul 15, 2009 2:22 AM
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Vote w/your Wallet.
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jul 15, 2009 3:23 AM
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Posted by: sunnywater on Jul 15, 2009 3:53 AM
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The huge jump in childhood food allergies in the US is in the news often[1], but most reports fail to consider a link to a recent radical change in America’s diet. Beginning in 1996, bacteria, virus and other genes have been artificially inserted to the DNA of soy, corn, cottonseed and canola plants. These unlabeled genetically modified (GM) foods carry a risk of triggering life-threatening allergic reactions, and evidence collected over the past decade now suggests that they are contributing to higher allergy rates.
The introduction of genetically engineered foods into our diet was done quietly and without the mandatory labeling that is required in most other industrialized countries. Without knowing that GM foods might increase the risk of allergies, and without knowing which foods contain GM ingredients, the biotech industry is gambling with our health for their profit. This risk is not lost on everyone. In fact, millions of shoppers are now seeking foods that are free from any GM ingredients. Ohio-based allergy specialist John Boyles, MD, says, “I used to test for soy allergies all the time, but now that soy is genetically engineered, it is so dangerous that I tell people never to eat it—unless it says organic.”
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Posted by: guerillamonk on Jul 15, 2009 4:47 AM
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» Silk TV ads
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» RE: Goodbye Chocolate Silk Soymilk
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Posted by: Jasonix on Jul 15, 2009 5:06 AM
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Soy contains isoflavones that convert to synthetic estrogen in your body. Human beings have never eat soy in the quantity that modern Americans do now. In Asia, where soy is a mere condiment, men suffer from greater higher rates of Alzheimer's and dementia. Care to bet what's going to happen to you after 30 years of eating 10 times the amount of soy protein that an Asian eats?
Soy milk and fake-meat is a heavily-processed food that often contains high amounts of aluminum as a result of the process.
So ditch the Silk.
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» Rice milk/ isoflavone misinformation
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Posted by: snowhound on Jul 15, 2009 5:35 AM
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Posted by: ellie on Jul 15, 2009 5:35 AM
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remember a few years ago a story about a small farmer in ohio being one of the few growers of non-GMO soybeans and almost his entire crop is sent to Japan each year... he was then under heavy pressure to grow GMO soy, and was still holding out by seed saving year to year, but his fields were slowly being contaminated by surrounding growers and his yields were dropping each year... don't know if he's still in business... the problem seems to be that it's next to impossible for a farmer to get his hands on seed stock that has not been modified...
seems the entire soy industry is polluted and has been for a long time now... soy is not vital to life guys... time to drop it off the grocery list... for those lactose intolerant folks, add soy to the no-list and learn to live without (includes me)...
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Posted by: limburger on Jul 15, 2009 6:08 AM
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» I'm not convinced...Got some references?
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» Got some references? Yes, references, and medical experiences too
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» You forgot the references
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Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale on Jul 15, 2009 6:24 AM
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Thanks to the posters above on the way to make it yourself.
Although the idea that it effects the thyroid is food for thought and I am going to research that. Thanks.
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Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jul 15, 2009 6:35 AM
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MIllions if not tens of millions of US jobs have vanished since 1974 because of "free trade" embraced by BOTH parties. Tariffs now on Asia. To hell with their threats not to buy any American goods. They replace American goods as soon as they can anyway. When the rest of the world sees we have the guts to take on Japan, India and China, they will open their markets and compete more fairly. And if not? No more polo shirts from Central Amrica! And yes, we WILL live without diamonds from South Africa. But I believe South Africa will be more reasonable that China, the Empire of Greed itself.
Yes we may pay more. But we will have jobs, real making things jobs to pay the price hike. Better than unemployment or parttime employment or employment with no benefits. Cut off immigration from Asia totally as well. That will hit them where it hurts.
And did I mention Israel, Iraq and India are part of Asia. Oh goshy goo-no more radiologists from Asia. Who will ever read the screens? AMERICANS trained in US schools.That's who.
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Posted by: sausage on Jul 15, 2009 6:49 AM
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Could it be he's a corporate whore?
He sure was as governor.
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Posted by: stina723 on Jul 15, 2009 7:02 AM
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Whole Foods is guilty of sourcing food from China. I bought the ORGANIC 365 brand of frozen broccoli a couple years ago. I casually started to read the bag as I was cooking it over the stove. Well in really small print at the bottom of the bag were the words "product of china". I was livid. I emailed whole foods and was told that their inspectors (whole foods) actually go over to China and inspect the food. (got a good laugh out of that one). But on their website, they had some marketing/PR bs about food being local and from "right outside your front door". Last time I looked, China was not outside my front door. I do not trust the Whole Foods 365 or organic 365 label. Actually, I don't trust Whole Foods at all. I stopped buying the Whole Foods brand after the Chinese Broccoli fiasco. And I started shopping at the farmers market across the street. Better quality food and the amount of $$ I spend at whole foods greatly reduced so F**k them.
Only way to fight this is to boycott or not buy.
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Posted by: redbridge on Jul 15, 2009 7:49 AM
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Couldn't help myself ... especially since the first two names in that trio are a couple of the most butchered surnames ever spoken here along the northern Mississippi.
They all get me giggling.
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Posted by: sakul72 on Jul 15, 2009 8:48 AM
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http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/
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» I'm not so sure I'd trust these folks
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» another biased meat/dairy industry propaganda site
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» RE: ...and the militant vegetarians and vegans are coming out of the woodwork.
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Posted by: donnambirdlady on Jul 15, 2009 9:15 AM
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It has gotten a little more difficult to maintain my personal boycott lately since my local store seems to have dropped many of the Organic Valley Products from their shelves. I might have to switch to another store for my weekly shopping trip. Fortunately there is more than one health food chain in my community.
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» RE: there are better (tasting) alternatives!
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Posted by: thedevil666 on Jul 15, 2009 10:19 AM
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Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Jul 15, 2009 10:44 AM
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And now this. Thanks Alternet. I will adjust my consumption accordingly, even if it costs me more.
And why do we the people put up with all these free trade agreements that screw our producers and threaten our health and the environment?!?
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Posted by: smadaj on Jul 15, 2009 11:14 AM
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I wrote to Dean Foods, also. In addition to the CEO address at the top of this comments page, there is the consumer response address, which is DEAN FOODS CONSUMER RESPONSE, P.O. BOX 763, HORSHAM, PA 19044-0763. I told them I will not be purchasing any DEAN FOODS products anymore, and put in a request for them to purchase from American organic farmers. For what it's worth, which I doubt will be much, but, perhaps if they hear enough, they might do something. Probably figure out more clever ways to mislabel their products....
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Posted by: bkochandco on Jul 15, 2009 12:07 PM
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The term "natural" has no meaning when applied to store bought goods. Hemlock is natural but it will still kill you.
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Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Jul 15, 2009 12:32 PM
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That being said, I wouldn't totally dismiss any article speaking out against soy, but I would certainly encourage approaching these articles with a healthy dose of scepticism, just as one should approach any study. That is the scientific method. Anyway, one has to beware of many of these sources of information, especially if they don't cite or post any articles that don't support their preconceived notions or conclusions, ie "SoyOnline Service".
As a vegetarian who consumes considerable soy, who also has not experienced dementia, femininity, decreased fertility, cancer or inflamed thyroid (these are all claims Soyonline Service makes), I will still investigate soy. However, I will also be very aware of the source and their citings. The following article I found was a good start, and it looks at both sides of the story: linked text Any article or website that does not, is garbage. And that goes for whichever side is being presented.
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Posted by: rmjustice on Jul 15, 2009 12:52 PM
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I looked up the ph. #, called, asked for Mr. Engles and was put right through to his secretary.
I left a message stating that I was a consumer who would no longer purchase Silk and explained why. Anyone else can too!
the number is: (214) 303-3400
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Posted by: MotherLodeBeth on Jul 15, 2009 1:08 PM
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» RE: Learn to make your own and save money
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Posted by: DragonTat2 on Jul 15, 2009 1:24 PM
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As for the Silk company, I hope they choke.
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Posted by: crobo on Jul 15, 2009 2:51 PM
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"Ingredients: Organic soymilk (Filtered Water, Whole Organic Soybeans), . . ."
On Their website, SilkSoymilk.com, there's a document entitled, Soybean Sourcing and Production Program, which states that All Silk soybeans – certified organic and those naturally produced without the use of genetic modification (GMO) – are currently sourced in North America. [p. 4 of 11]
How does this information fit in with this article and why are loyal users of Silk products jumping off after reading this piece?
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» Somebody is lying and/or wrong
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Posted by: Beverlee C on Jul 15, 2009 5:00 PM
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this makes me sick.
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Posted by: stilldreaming on Jul 15, 2009 6:01 PM
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» RE: North America means Mexico, US or Canada .. Mexico better source than China?!
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Posted by: armorypk on Jul 15, 2009 7:44 PM
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(Caution - Strong Language)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCZRXW-pFcE
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» RE: Hope.....Change !
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Posted by: tkd82arty@netscape.net on Jul 16, 2009 1:30 AM
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Posted by: lalala on Jul 17, 2009 9:17 PM
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Posted by: jarbo on Jul 20, 2009 2:57 AM
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Got this reply - (love the "corporatespeak":
Thank you for contacting WhiteWave Foods. We appreciate the opportunity to address your comments.
In 2008 Silk® partnered with Conservation International to create Silk’s Soybean Sourcing and Production Program, which reinforces our values and commitment to sourcing soybeans that are produced in a sustainable, socially responsible and ethical manner. We are very proud of this work, and are continuing our work with Conservation International on future initiatives.
Here are a few of the highlights from Silk’s Sourcing Program:
• Currently, we source all of our beans from North America. If the product is from Silk, the soybeans are from North America.
• Silk is not sourcing beans from China. In the past, we have sourced a small portion of beans from China. Silk stopped contracting for soybeans from China at the end of 2006.
• We only partner with suppliers that can produce beans that pass our robust quality testing and evaluation protocols.
• All Silk soybeans – non-genetically modified organism (GMO) and organic – are currently sourced domestically.
• Our non-GMO beans are put through robust quality testing and evaluation protocols.
• We have comprehensive testing protocols in place to detect GMOs, pesticide residue and other potential contaminants – all of which are above and beyond regulatory requirements.
• Organic soybeans purchased by Silk are certified organic by independent agencies accredited by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), in compliance with the organic standards set by the National Organic Program (NOP).
For further information, we encourage you to visit our Web site: (http://www.silksoymilk.com/SourcingProgram.aspx). We appreciate your ongoing support, and remain committed to consistently providing consumers with high-quality, great-tasting soymilk.
Sincerely,
Alberto Vasquez
Consumer Response Representative
Ref: N937347
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Posted by: Jarod on Jul 30, 2009 2:58 PM
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Silk does not use hexane within the manufacturing of any of our products
Currently, we source all of our beans from North America. If the product is from Silk, the soybeans are from North America.
Silk does not source beans from China. In the past, we have sourced a small portion of certified organic beans from China. Silk stopped contracting for soybeans from China at the end of 2006.
Silk is proud to continue offering the same certified organic products we always have, available in Plain, Vanilla and Unsweetened half gallons. If the product says it’s organic, it is.
We also offer these products and additional flavors as natural products, made with non-GMO soybeans.
Last year, we embarked on a multi-year partnership with Conservation International. We developed a Soybean Sourcing Production Program to reinforce our values and commitment to sourcing soybeans that are produced in a sustainable, socially responsible and ethical manner. The program is featured on our website if you have time to take a look - www.silksoymilk.com
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