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Why Silk Soy Milk's Parent Company Is Throwing American Farmers and Consumers Under the Bus

Since Dean Foods acquired Silk it has ditched support of domestic organic farms.
July 9, 2009  |  
 
 
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Even as demand for organic food continues to explode, organic farmers in America are getting thrown under the beet cart they helped build.

The Chinese are taking over market share, especially of vegetables and agricultural commodities like soy, thanks to several American-based multinational food corporations that have hijacked the organic bandwagon they only recently jumped onto.

When megacorporation Dean Foods acquired Silk soy milk the prospects looked good for American organic soy farmers. Silk had always been committed to supporting domestic organic farmers, and with the new might of Dean Foods behind it, Silk would likely grow. Silk did grow, but it also dropped its commitment to domestic soy.

Multiple Midwestern farmers and farmers cooperatives in the heart of American soy country were told by Silk they had to match the rock-bottom cost of Chinese organic soybeans -- a price they simply could not meet. Organic agriculture is labor-intensive, and China's edge comes largely from its abundance of cheap labor.

"Dean Foods had the opportunity to push organic and sustainable agriculture to incredible heights of production by working with North American farmers and traders to get more land in organic production," says Merle Kramer, a marketer for the Midwestern Organic Farmers Cooperative, based in Michigan. "But what they did was pit cheap foreign soybeans against the U.S. organic farmer, taking away any attraction for conventional farmers to make the move into sustainable agriculture."

Silk bought Chinese soybeans for years, building a commanding share of the soy milk market, before substantially decreasing its support of organic agriculture altogether.

Few Silk products are certified organic anymore, and some are processed with hexane, a neurotoxin. The use of hexane poses risks to workers in the plants and possibly the consumers of the product and is listed as an air pollutant by EPA. In Illinois alone, 5 million pounds of hexane are released into the environment by food processors Bunge, Cargill and Arthur Daniels Midland.

While the green "USDA Organic" seal is gone, hexane-processed soymilk can still be labeled "natural," and if it contains organic ingredients, the label "made with organic ingredients" is still used.

A recent USDA report, "Emerging Issues in the U.S. Organic Industry," points out two notable trends in American food: Conventional food corporations are taking over successful independent organic companies, and the corporations are becoming increasingly dependent on imported ingredients.

While the retail price of "Chi-ganic" produce remains the same as what consumers were paying for domestic organic, there's reason to believe the quality is lower. At Whole Foods, for example, labels that read "USDA inspected" are stuck onto imported produce. According to "Behind the Bean," a recent study by Wisconsin's Cornucopia Institute, the USDA's record with food imported from China is fraught with irregularities.

"[USDA] found multiple noncompliances of the federal organic standards, [including] the failure of one certifying agent to hire Chinese inspectors that are adequately familiar with the USDA organic standards, and the failure by another organic certifying agent to provide a written and translated copy of the USDA organic standards to all clients applying for certification. This raises serious concerns about whether foods grown organically in China follow the same USDA organic standards with which we require American farmers to comply."

A stand at my local farmers market has a sign that says "Boycott Chinese Garlic." China currently supplies 75 percent of the garlic sold in the U.S., for an average price of 50 cents a pound. Two years ago, it was 25 cents a pound. Even with the price of garlic up from 25 to 50 cents a pound, large garlic growers and whole garlic-growing regions like Gilroy, Calif., are hurting. Gilroy used to be known as the nation's garlic capital. In addition to garlic cultivation, a retail empire was built on value-added products made with garlic. Now, Gilroy is just a garlic-processing capital, because most of its supply comes from China.

One advantage local garlic producers have going for them is that most Chinese garlic is the soft-neck variety, which is inferior -- in terms of flavor, clove size and peelability -- to the hard-neck varieties favored by many American garlic growers. But while farmers markets are spreading like weeds and creating ever more opportunities for consumers to buy the good stuff directly from growers, most Americans continue to reach for the netted bulbs of garlic within easy reach at the supermarket, or jars of peeled and chopped garlic.

Consumers buy organic for several reasons, including lighter environmental impact, cleaner and safer working conditions for farmworkers and the perceived health benefits of organic foods -- or at least their lack of toxic health detriments. Unfortunately, the import-fueled corporatization of questionably organic food is making all of these attributes less likely.

Silk's road to China is a well-worn trail and further evidence that organic as we knew it is dead, replaced by gigantic "Chi-ganic" corporations that are in it for all the wrong reasons.


Ari LeVaux writes a syndicated weekly food column.
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Here ya go, from a former Silk drinker!
Posted by: jcalhoun on Jul 9, 2009 12:00 PM   
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Gregg L. Engles, Chariman and CEO

Dean Foods
2515 McKinney Avenue Suite 1200
Dallas, TX 75201

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» Boycott all Dean soy products! Posted by: dazzle59
» RE: Former Silk drinker Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale

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My diet is in ruins.
Posted by: luzmejor on Jul 14, 2009 10:32 AM   
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I guess I'll need to go back to making my own soymilk, now that my husband has grown fond of it too.

Well, it had to happen in America, because the freedom that is prized now is the freedom to cheat the customer and get more money for the CEO.

And now producers all over the world have been likewise corrupted by greed as well as by necessity of competition in a market set by our own lawmakers.

It is time to demand laws to give customers an even break..

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» RE: My diet is in ruins. Posted by: Xynyx
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what did you expect?
Posted by: Recher on Jul 14, 2009 10:58 AM   
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What direction did you expect organics to take? The entire system, not just organics, is corrupted by narcissism and not driven by empathy and progressive ideas.

MAKE YOUR OWN SOYA MILK! works out at about 80 cents a quart for organic

cheap, quick delicious

This is the traditional recipe

soak x amount of soya beans over nite

put into blender with water

blend

put mash and water into cooking pot

add more water

bring to boil

remove from heat and strain

Voila! soya milk

Use the amount of water to 'dilute' soya milk to your own liking


add malt, etc if you like

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» RE: what did you expect? Posted by: Salt Lakce City, Utah
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Cannot email Dean Foods to comment!
Posted by: Salt Lakce City, Utah on Jul 14, 2009 11:34 AM   
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I just tried to email Dean Foods to notify them that I will not buy Silk soy milk again, even though I was very, very brand loyal. Unfortunately, after writing and sending the email, I got an error saying "404 url does not exist." So much for customer care. I agree, I am done with (and down on) Dean.

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» RE: Cannot email Dean Foods to comment! Posted by: thedigitalfrenzy
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UNBELEIVEBLE!
Posted by: kewpie on Jul 14, 2009 11:35 AM   
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I feel so sick, learning about SILK! I have used their products for 10 years and thought they were organic and to hear they were not. Also that they advertised that they brought soy beans local and did not...now to learn that they are pressuring American farmers to cut their prices is insane..I am shocked and heartbroken. I guess I have to learn to make my own!

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DEAN is a dairy powerhouse anyway
Posted by: TomOfMaine on Jul 14, 2009 12:03 PM   
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This is what we get when one of the nations largest dairy companies, Dean Foods, grabs control of a once reputable soymilk producer.

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Edensoy Is Better than Silk
Posted by: oldhippie on Jul 14, 2009 12:10 PM   
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I've been drinking Edensoy Original for more than 20 years. Love it. Try it, you'll like it as well as the other flavors offered by Edensoy. Check out their website www.edenfoods.com. This company is located in Michigan and most of their ingredients come from the U.S. with a few obtained in Japan. I think all of the soybeans are grown here.

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stockmarket driven policy.
Posted by: reason2believe on Jul 14, 2009 1:40 PM   
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When Silk was sold to 'big corp', it became part of their profitmakers stable...where money, and nothing else, rules.

Big corp=stockmarket
stockmarket=monetary profits for investors
profit demands=no humanitarian conscience.

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Then again....
Posted by: TomOfMaine on Jul 14, 2009 4:32 PM   
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I just checked the most recent containers of Silk soymilk at our local natural foods store and they all said they contain "non-gmo soybeans grown in North America". So I'm not sure if they're lying or the author of this article is lacking updated facts.

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» Amazed again.... Posted by: chaztmac
» Fine print... Posted by: Ari LeVaux
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Chinese soy underselling growers here.
Posted by: Gerald on Jul 14, 2009 10:21 PM   
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Before you get all that excited you should read "The Whole Soy Story". You'll be sorry for every bit of tofu you ate or soy milk you ever drank. The worse part of it is the soy is regarded as a "health food". It's especially bad for male babies.

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UNFI is the primary distributor of Silk
Posted by: weathered on Jul 15, 2009 2:22 AM   
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putting pressure at the store level and alerting the distributor is very effective.

Vote w/your Wallet.

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Another way the Chinese are getting us back for borrowing from them?
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jul 15, 2009 3:23 AM   
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Not to mention that China PNTR scam which Obama has yet to cancel.

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Genetic engineering may provoke increased allergies to soy
Posted by: sunnywater on Jul 15, 2009 3:53 AM   
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•The United States (85%) and Argentina (98%) produce almost exclusively GM soybeans. In these countries, GM soybeans are approved without restrictions and are treated just like conventional soybeans. Producers and government officials in the US and Argentina do not see a reason to keep GM and conventionally bred cultivars separate – whether during harvest, shipment, storage or processing. Soybean imports from these countries generally contain a high amount of GM content.

The huge jump in childhood food allergies in the US is in the news often[1], but most reports fail to consider a link to a recent radical change in America’s diet. Beginning in 1996, bacteria, virus and other genes have been artificially inserted to the DNA of soy, corn, cottonseed and canola plants. These unlabeled genetically modified (GM) foods carry a risk of triggering life-threatening allergic reactions, and evidence collected over the past decade now suggests that they are contributing to higher allergy rates.

The introduction of genetically engineered foods into our diet was done quietly and without the mandatory labeling that is required in most other industrialized countries. Without knowing that GM foods might increase the risk of allergies, and without knowing which foods contain GM ingredients, the biotech industry is gambling with our health for their profit. This risk is not lost on everyone. In fact, millions of shoppers are now seeking foods that are free from any GM ingredients. Ohio-based allergy specialist John Boyles, MD, says, “I used to test for soy allergies all the time, but now that soy is genetically engineered, it is so dangerous that I tell people never to eat it—unless it says organic.”

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Goodbye Chocolate Silk Soymilk
Posted by: guerillamonk on Jul 15, 2009 4:47 AM   
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Alot of my vegan friends have told me for years to not drink Silk,and i have for the most part switched to other brands.I like to use westsoy for cooking,i buy the Whole foods brands for my other needs,but i kept buying the Silk chocolate soymilk because the taste is just sooo good.I love that stuff,but now,i will have to finally stop buying all Silk products.The worst part of it is the timing.Everyday now i see more and more Silk ads on TV.

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Is it worth pointing out that soy isn't good for you?
Posted by: Jasonix on Jul 15, 2009 5:06 AM   
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All the claims that it prevents heart disease have come up bust.

Soy contains isoflavones that convert to synthetic estrogen in your body. Human beings have never eat soy in the quantity that modern Americans do now. In Asia, where soy is a mere condiment, men suffer from greater higher rates of Alzheimer's and dementia. Care to bet what's going to happen to you after 30 years of eating 10 times the amount of soy protein that an Asian eats?

Soy milk and fake-meat is a heavily-processed food that often contains high amounts of aluminum as a result of the process.

So ditch the Silk.

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I agree. Soy is not a health food
Posted by: snowhound on Jul 15, 2009 5:35 AM   
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What amazes me is that people still think that processsed food is healthy. What makes people think that man can create a highly processed food like soy milk and it actually be healthy? For thousands of years our European and African ancestors drank unprocessed milk from cows and goats that grazed on grass. The only processing that nature allows is natural fermentation, not pasturization. That means Nato would have health benefits because it is naturally fermented soy.

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as far as understood...
Posted by: ellie on Jul 15, 2009 5:35 AM   
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when Japan goes shopping for soybeans, their laws forbid GMO, especially in tofu, a diet staple...

remember a few years ago a story about a small farmer in ohio being one of the few growers of non-GMO soybeans and almost his entire crop is sent to Japan each year... he was then under heavy pressure to grow GMO soy, and was still holding out by seed saving year to year, but his fields were slowly being contaminated by surrounding growers and his yields were dropping each year... don't know if he's still in business... the problem seems to be that it's next to impossible for a farmer to get his hands on seed stock that has not been modified...

seems the entire soy industry is polluted and has been for a long time now... soy is not vital to life guys... time to drop it off the grocery list... for those lactose intolerant folks, add soy to the no-list and learn to live without (includes me)...

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SILK and SOY kill your thyroid
Posted by: limburger on Jul 15, 2009 6:08 AM   
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Hypothyroidism is the first symptom that you have overconsumed edamame legumes. Do the research. You may conclude, as we did, that almond milk and rice milk taste better, and are better for your health too.

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Crap Silk is $4.49 a 1/2 gal. here: organic store brand is $3.49
Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale on Jul 15, 2009 6:24 AM   
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Now, Silk/Dean Foods has reintroduced its organic soy milk in a GREEN carton and it is a lot higher than their regular. These people are greedy and rapacious. I am going to buy some heirloom seeds and start growing my own food next year.

Thanks to the posters above on the way to make it yourself.
Although the idea that it effects the thyroid is food for thought and I am going to research that. Thanks.

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Bye Bye Toyota and Honda
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jul 15, 2009 6:35 AM   
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Slap tariffs on chinese and all asian products NOW! I'm sick of all the litmus tests liberals impose on others to pass a pure-abortion, health care by fed govt, gun control, animosity to CIA, etc. There is one bread and butter test(two if you count card check gutted by Obama): TARIFFS!!

MIllions if not tens of millions of US jobs have vanished since 1974 because of "free trade" embraced by BOTH parties. Tariffs now on Asia. To hell with their threats not to buy any American goods. They replace American goods as soon as they can anyway. When the rest of the world sees we have the guts to take on Japan, India and China, they will open their markets and compete more fairly. And if not? No more polo shirts from Central Amrica! And yes, we WILL live without diamonds from South Africa. But I believe South Africa will be more reasonable that China, the Empire of Greed itself.


Yes we may pay more. But we will have jobs, real making things jobs to pay the price hike. Better than unemployment or parttime employment or employment with no benefits. Cut off immigration from Asia totally as well. That will hit them where it hurts.

And did I mention Israel, Iraq and India are part of Asia. Oh goshy goo-no more radiologists from Asia. Who will ever read the screens? AMERICANS trained in US schools.That's who.

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Obama's Ag Sec is from a leading soy growing state
Posted by: sausage on Jul 15, 2009 6:49 AM   
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I wonder why bogus farm-boy (everyone from Iowa is automatically an expert on agriculture) Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack isn't pitching a bitch about this one.

Could it be he's a corporate whore?

He sure was as governor.

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Silk is NOT Soy
Posted by: dcande01 on Jul 15, 2009 6:49 AM   
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I dumped Silk at the time of the Chinese melamine scare. I e-mailed Silk to ask them whether their soybeans came from China, and I got back a BS e-mail saying that they got healthful soybeans, blah, blah, blah. I wrote them back saying that all of that was fine, but my specific question was whether they got their soybeans from China. I never heard back from them. Dean Foods is a disgusting company. Now, sadly, so is Silk. This is typical of what happens when a great company is bought out by a conglomerate. I no longer use Toms's of Maine, either.

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Knowledge=Power, Whole Foods Guilty of Sourcing Food from China
Posted by: stina723 on Jul 15, 2009 7:02 AM   
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Not surprised to learn this fact about Silk. I stopped all processed soy products a couple years ago, because they are essentially, a processed food, just like McDonalds or Hot Pockets and can not be good for you.

Whole Foods is guilty of sourcing food from China. I bought the ORGANIC 365 brand of frozen broccoli a couple years ago. I casually started to read the bag as I was cooking it over the stove. Well in really small print at the bottom of the bag were the words "product of china". I was livid. I emailed whole foods and was told that their inspectors (whole foods) actually go over to China and inspect the food. (got a good laugh out of that one). But on their website, they had some marketing/PR bs about food being local and from "right outside your front door". Last time I looked, China was not outside my front door. I do not trust the Whole Foods 365 or organic 365 label. Actually, I don't trust Whole Foods at all. I stopped buying the Whole Foods brand after the Chinese Broccoli fiasco. And I started shopping at the farmers market across the street. Better quality food and the amount of $$ I spend at whole foods greatly reduced so F**k them.

Only way to fight this is to boycott or not buy.

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Not to be mean, but you're in the food biz
Posted by: redbridge on Jul 15, 2009 7:49 AM   
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When Arthur Daniels bequeathed the company to his oldest son, it was re-named Archer Daniels due to his proclivity of the bow and arrow.

Couldn't help myself ... especially since the first two names in that trio are a couple of the most butchered surnames ever spoken here along the northern Mississippi.

They all get me giggling.

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I give up!!
Posted by: troubleinmind254 on Jul 15, 2009 8:09 AM   
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Nothing is safe, perfect, or make you live 120 years longer. I'm craving mcnuggets!!

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Why is everyone complaining!
Posted by: sakul72 on Jul 15, 2009 8:48 AM   
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The whole 'soy' thing is huge farce from the beginning,

http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/

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My personal Dean Foods boycott
Posted by: donnambirdlady on Jul 15, 2009 9:15 AM   
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I have been personally boycotting Dean Foods products for a few years. It is not just about the soy milk but also trying to lower organic standards for their soy and dairy products then more recently switching their dairy product brand from being organic to the meaningless "all natural."

It has gotten a little more difficult to maintain my personal boycott lately since my local store seems to have dropped many of the Organic Valley Products from their shelves. I might have to switch to another store for my weekly shopping trip. Fortunately there is more than one health food chain in my community.

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there are better (tasting) alternatives!
Posted by: sledmouth on Jul 15, 2009 9:35 AM   
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Organic Valley has been my unsweetened soy milk of choice for years! Tastes way better, certified organic, pro-US-farmer.

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It is only in the hypercapitalistic U.S.
Posted by: thedevil666 on Jul 15, 2009 10:19 AM   
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that organic is not the norm. I am in Argentina right now and am blown away every time I see a cow that can walk around and actually eat grass. I wouldn't include Argentina in this discussion but most developing countries can't afford the fertilizers and pesticides that make a crop unorganic.

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In addition
Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Jul 15, 2009 10:44 AM   
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I have always been amazed that Silk would produce the two-pack soymilk package at a reduced price, promoting consumer waste with the unnecessary thick cardboard holding the two cartons together as one package. I thought it was pretty hypocritical how I always say print on their package telling how sustainable they are by using wind energy, then turn around and unnecessarily use extra packaging. And I'm talking nice thick cardboard. With millions of consumers buying their product, this really adds up. Too bad consumers buy the two-pack anyway to save a little at the expense of the environment.
And now this. Thanks Alternet. I will adjust my consumption accordingly, even if it costs me more.
And why do we the people put up with all these free trade agreements that screw our producers and threaten our health and the environment?!?

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Coconut milk from SO DELICIOUS (Turtle Mountain) is fun for those who love the chocolate Silk
Posted by: smadaj on Jul 15, 2009 11:14 AM   
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So Delicious makes a chocolate ice cream from coconut milk if you are looking for a dairy-free chocolate treat. It has very little coconut flavor. They also make several flavors of yogurt which are good, and we've tried their coconut milk - good, but goes bad very quickly (which presumably means it's not loaded with toxic stuff to keep it "fresh.") Also I see others have posted warnings about soy, and have posted other nut milk options. We've made almond milk in our juicer before, it's good, too.

I wrote to Dean Foods, also. In addition to the CEO address at the top of this comments page, there is the consumer response address, which is DEAN FOODS CONSUMER RESPONSE, P.O. BOX 763, HORSHAM, PA 19044-0763. I told them I will not be purchasing any DEAN FOODS products anymore, and put in a request for them to purchase from American organic farmers. For what it's worth, which I doubt will be much, but, perhaps if they hear enough, they might do something. Probably figure out more clever ways to mislabel their products....

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Cheap Chinese labor?
Posted by: bkochandco on Jul 15, 2009 12:07 PM   
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"Cheap Chinese labor"?-more like slave labor or prison labor!

The term "natural" has no meaning when applied to store bought goods. Hemlock is natural but it will still kill you.

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Beware!
Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Jul 15, 2009 12:32 PM   
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A lot of posters here seem to really have a resentment towards soy. I've also seen a lot of posters over time direct a lot of hostility towards vegetarians, often times directing that anger in the form of criticizing one of the staples in the diets of many vegetarians, soy. So I come to expect that many of the anti-soy crusaders do it out of disdain for vegetarians. Scientific research mixes with ulterior methods about as good as the church mixes with the state!

That being said, I wouldn't totally dismiss any article speaking out against soy, but I would certainly encourage approaching these articles with a healthy dose of scepticism, just as one should approach any study. That is the scientific method. Anyway, one has to beware of many of these sources of information, especially if they don't cite or post any articles that don't support their preconceived notions or conclusions, ie "SoyOnline Service".

As a vegetarian who consumes considerable soy, who also has not experienced dementia, femininity, decreased fertility, cancer or inflamed thyroid (these are all claims Soyonline Service makes), I will still investigate soy. However, I will also be very aware of the source and their citings. The following article I found was a good start, and it looks at both sides of the story: linked text Any article or website that does not, is garbage. And that goes for whichever side is being presented.

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Call Dean Foods and Express your disapproval! Here's the number!
Posted by: rmjustice on Jul 15, 2009 12:52 PM   
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thanks for the info. jcalhoun!

I looked up the ph. #, called, asked for Mr. Engles and was put right through to his secretary.

I left a message stating that I was a consumer who would no longer purchase Silk and explained why. Anyone else can too!

the number is: (214) 303-3400

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Learn to make your own and save money
Posted by: MotherLodeBeth on Jul 15, 2009 1:08 PM   
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Invest in your own soy milk maker which need not be expensive. It amazes me that so many people think making food from scratch is somehow more expensive. And ask lots of questions when buy soy beans and realize when you buy organic you may pay a bit more, but you are supporting a small farmer, who in turn is keeping the money in their local community. This is what community is ALL about. And grow your own garlic. It is NOT hard and even someone with a patio can grow dozens of garlic bulbs. Here in CA I can grow garlic almost year round.

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Hemp Milk.
Posted by: DragonTat2 on Jul 15, 2009 1:24 PM   
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I prefer the Living Harvest brand. Astronomically higher in Omegas & 40% daily calcium in one 8 oz glass.

As for the Silk company, I hope they choke.

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Silk Creamer
Posted by: crobo on Jul 15, 2009 2:51 PM   
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I'm looking at a bottle of Silk Creamer, French Vanilla, that I purchased today.
"Ingredients: Organic soymilk (Filtered Water, Whole Organic Soybeans), . . ."

On Their website, SilkSoymilk.com, there's a document entitled, Soybean Sourcing and Production Program, which states that All Silk soybeans – certified organic and those naturally produced without the use of genetic modification (GMO) – are currently sourced in North America. [p. 4 of 11]

How does this information fit in with this article and why are loyal users of Silk products jumping off after reading this piece?

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Down the Sewer
Posted by: Beverlee C on Jul 15, 2009 5:00 PM   
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I just dumped 1/2 gallon of Silk Soy Lite down the sink, and will NEVER, EVERY buy their products again; I understand Whole Foods has their own brand...wonder where they get their soy beans? I think Trader Joe's has soy milk also; time to do some research.
this makes me sick.

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North America means Mexico, US or Canada .. Mexico better source than China?!
Posted by: stilldreaming on Jul 15, 2009 6:01 PM   
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and see the comment above, by the author, titled "Fine Print"

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"There's No Such Thing As Soy Milk."
Posted by: armorypk on Jul 15, 2009 7:44 PM   
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How about a little comic relief, Kids?

(Caution - Strong Language)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCZRXW-pFcE

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Hope.....Change !
Posted by: Sgellero on Jul 15, 2009 8:05 PM   
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We'll get The Messiah right on this travesty, right after he reviews NAFTA, as he promised.....cross my heart hope to die.

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Tom
Posted by: tkd82arty@netscape.net on Jul 16, 2009 1:30 AM   
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A bean is nothing more than a bean. Liquify it and you have been juice. Why do you want to call it milk?

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another former silk fan
Posted by: lalala on Jul 17, 2009 9:17 PM   
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I have ditched those scammers...we gotta support domestic organic farmers... but i keep hearing soy is kinda messed up in its unfermented form anyway. It prevents the uptake of minerals but for some reason products like soy sauce, tempeh and miso check this page out http://www.gemcultures.com/soy_cultures.htm

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sorry i left out a word...
Posted by: lalala on Jul 17, 2009 9:18 PM   
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It prevents the uptake of minerals but for some reason products like soy sauce, tempeh and miso Dont. And they add an immune system boost, they taste great and you can do it home. check this page out http://www.gemcultures.com/soy_cultures.htm

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reply from White Wave
Posted by: jarbo on Jul 20, 2009 2:57 AM   
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I emailed them saying they'd lost a loyal cusomer cause of the sneak non-organic move and undercutting of American organic soybean farmers.
Got this reply - (love the "corporatespeak":

Thank you for contacting WhiteWave Foods. We appreciate the opportunity to address your comments.

In 2008 Silk® partnered with Conservation International to create Silk’s Soybean Sourcing and Production Program, which reinforces our values and commitment to sourcing soybeans that are produced in a sustainable, socially responsible and ethical manner. We are very proud of this work, and are continuing our work with Conservation International on future initiatives.

Here are a few of the highlights from Silk’s Sourcing Program:
• Currently, we source all of our beans from North America. If the product is from Silk, the soybeans are from North America.
• Silk is not sourcing beans from China. In the past, we have sourced a small portion of beans from China. Silk stopped contracting for soybeans from China at the end of 2006.
• We only partner with suppliers that can produce beans that pass our robust quality testing and evaluation protocols.
• All Silk soybeans – non-genetically modified organism (GMO) and organic – are currently sourced domestically.
• Our non-GMO beans are put through robust quality testing and evaluation protocols.
• We have comprehensive testing protocols in place to detect GMOs, pesticide residue and other potential contaminants – all of which are above and beyond regulatory requirements.
• Organic soybeans purchased by Silk are certified organic by independent agencies accredited by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), in compliance with the organic standards set by the National Organic Program (NOP).

For further information, we encourage you to visit our Web site: (http://www.silksoymilk.com/SourcingProgram.aspx). We appreciate your ongoing support, and remain committed to consistently providing consumers with high-quality, great-tasting soymilk.

Sincerely,
Alberto Vasquez
Consumer Response Representative

Ref: N937347

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Facts on Silk
Posted by: Jarod on Jul 30, 2009 2:58 PM   
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Hey, I work for Silk, and just want to chime in to present some facts. First off, we’re committed to providing information about our products to consumers, customers, and anyone with an interest. So feel free to reach out whenever you have questions – www.silksoymilk.com - we recognize it is becoming increasingly important for people to learn more about their food, how it’s made and where it comes from. Here are a few facts we want you to know about Silk.

Silk does not use hexane within the manufacturing of any of our products

Currently, we source all of our beans from North America. If the product is from Silk, the soybeans are from North America.

Silk does not source beans from China. In the past, we have sourced a small portion of certified organic beans from China. Silk stopped contracting for soybeans from China at the end of 2006.

Silk is proud to continue offering the same certified organic products we always have, available in Plain, Vanilla and Unsweetened half gallons. If the product says it’s organic, it is.

We also offer these products and additional flavors as natural products, made with non-GMO soybeans.

Last year, we embarked on a multi-year partnership with Conservation International. We developed a Soybean Sourcing Production Program to reinforce our values and commitment to sourcing soybeans that are produced in a sustainable, socially responsible and ethical manner. The program is featured on our website if you have time to take a look - www.silksoymilk.com

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Here ya go, from a former Silk drinker!
Posted by: jcalhoun on Jul 9, 2009 12:00 PM   
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Gregg L. Engles, Chariman and CEO

Dean Foods
2515 McKinney Avenue Suite 1200
Dallas, TX 75201

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My diet is in ruins.
Posted by: luzmejor on Jul 14, 2009 10:32 AM   
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I guess I'll need to go back to making my own soymilk, now that my husband has grown fond of it too.

Well, it had to happen in America, because the freedom that is prized now is the freedom to cheat the customer and get more money for the CEO.

And now producers all over the world have been likewise corrupted by greed as well as by necessity of competition in a market set by our own lawmakers.

It is time to demand laws to give customers an even break..

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what did you expect?
Posted by: Recher on Jul 14, 2009 10:58 AM   
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What direction did you expect organics to take? The entire system, not just organics, is corrupted by narcissism and not driven by empathy and progressive ideas.

MAKE YOUR OWN SOYA MILK! works out at about 80 cents a quart for organic

cheap, quick delicious

This is the traditional recipe

soak x amount of soya beans over nite

put into blender with water

blend

put mash and water into cooking pot

add more water

bring to boil

remove from heat and strain

Voila! soya milk

Use the amount of water to 'dilute' soya milk to your own liking


add malt, etc if you like

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Cannot email Dean Foods to comment!
Posted by: Salt Lakce City, Utah on Jul 14, 2009 11:34 AM   
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I just tried to email Dean Foods to notify them that I will not buy Silk soy milk again, even though I was very, very brand loyal. Unfortunately, after writing and sending the email, I got an error saying "404 url does not exist." So much for customer care. I agree, I am done with (and down on) Dean.

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UNBELEIVEBLE!
Posted by: kewpie on Jul 14, 2009 11:35 AM   
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I feel so sick, learning about SILK! I have used their products for 10 years and thought they were organic and to hear they were not. Also that they advertised that they brought soy beans local and did not...now to learn that they are pressuring American farmers to cut their prices is insane..I am shocked and heartbroken. I guess I have to learn to make my own!

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DEAN is a dairy powerhouse anyway
Posted by: TomOfMaine on Jul 14, 2009 12:03 PM   
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This is what we get when one of the nations largest dairy companies, Dean Foods, grabs control of a once reputable soymilk producer.

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Edensoy Is Better than Silk
Posted by: oldhippie on Jul 14, 2009 12:10 PM   
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I've been drinking Edensoy Original for more than 20 years. Love it. Try it, you'll like it as well as the other flavors offered by Edensoy. Check out their website www.edenfoods.com. This company is located in Michigan and most of their ingredients come from the U.S. with a few obtained in Japan. I think all of the soybeans are grown here.

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stockmarket driven policy.
Posted by: reason2believe on Jul 14, 2009 1:40 PM   
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When Silk was sold to 'big corp', it became part of their profitmakers stable...where money, and nothing else, rules.

Big corp=stockmarket
stockmarket=monetary profits for investors
profit demands=no humanitarian conscience.

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Then again....
Posted by: TomOfMaine on Jul 14, 2009 4:32 PM   
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I just checked the most recent containers of Silk soymilk at our local natural foods store and they all said they contain "non-gmo soybeans grown in North America". So I'm not sure if they're lying or the author of this article is lacking updated facts.

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Chinese soy underselling growers here.
Posted by: Gerald on Jul 14, 2009 10:21 PM   
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Before you get all that excited you should read "The Whole Soy Story". You'll be sorry for every bit of tofu you ate or soy milk you ever drank. The worse part of it is the soy is regarded as a "health food". It's especially bad for male babies.

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UNFI is the primary distributor of Silk
Posted by: weathered on Jul 15, 2009 2:22 AM   
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putting pressure at the store level and alerting the distributor is very effective.

Vote w/your Wallet.

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Another way the Chinese are getting us back for borrowing from them?
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jul 15, 2009 3:23 AM   
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Not to mention that China PNTR scam which Obama has yet to cancel.

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Genetic engineering may provoke increased allergies to soy
Posted by: sunnywater on Jul 15, 2009 3:53 AM   
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•The United States (85%) and Argentina (98%) produce almost exclusively GM soybeans. In these countries, GM soybeans are approved without restrictions and are treated just like conventional soybeans. Producers and government officials in the US and Argentina do not see a reason to keep GM and conventionally bred cultivars separate – whether during harvest, shipment, storage or processing. Soybean imports from these countries generally contain a high amount of GM content.

The huge jump in childhood food allergies in the US is in the news often[1], but most reports fail to consider a link to a recent radical change in America’s diet. Beginning in 1996, bacteria, virus and other genes have been artificially inserted to the DNA of soy, corn, cottonseed and canola plants. These unlabeled genetically modified (GM) foods carry a risk of triggering life-threatening allergic reactions, and evidence collected over the past decade now suggests that they are contributing to higher allergy rates.

The introduction of genetically engineered foods into our diet was done quietly and without the mandatory labeling that is required in most other industrialized countries. Without knowing that GM foods might increase the risk of allergies, and without knowing which foods contain GM ingredients, the biotech industry is gambling with our health for their profit. This risk is not lost on everyone. In fact, millions of shoppers are now seeking foods that are free from any GM ingredients. Ohio-based allergy specialist John Boyles, MD, says, “I used to test for soy allergies all the time, but now that soy is genetically engineered, it is so dangerous that I tell people never to eat it—unless it says organic.”

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Goodbye Chocolate Silk Soymilk
Posted by: guerillamonk on Jul 15, 2009 4:47 AM   
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Alot of my vegan friends have told me for years to not drink Silk,and i have for the most part switched to other brands.I like to use westsoy for cooking,i buy the Whole foods brands for my other needs,but i kept buying the Silk chocolate soymilk because the taste is just sooo good.I love that stuff,but now,i will have to finally stop buying all Silk products.The worst part of it is the timing.Everyday now i see more and more Silk ads on TV.

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Is it worth pointing out that soy isn't good for you?
Posted by: Jasonix on Jul 15, 2009 5:06 AM   
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All the claims that it prevents heart disease have come up bust.

Soy contains isoflavones that convert to synthetic estrogen in your body. Human beings have never eat soy in the quantity that modern Americans do now. In Asia, where soy is a mere condiment, men suffer from greater higher rates of Alzheimer's and dementia. Care to bet what's going to happen to you after 30 years of eating 10 times the amount of soy protein that an Asian eats?

Soy milk and fake-meat is a heavily-processed food that often contains high amounts of aluminum as a result of the process.

So ditch the Silk.

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I agree. Soy is not a health food
Posted by: snowhound on Jul 15, 2009 5:35 AM   
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What amazes me is that people still think that processsed food is healthy. What makes people think that man can create a highly processed food like soy milk and it actually be healthy? For thousands of years our European and African ancestors drank unprocessed milk from cows and goats that grazed on grass. The only processing that nature allows is natural fermentation, not pasturization. That means Nato would have health benefits because it is naturally fermented soy.

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as far as understood...
Posted by: ellie on Jul 15, 2009 5:35 AM   
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when Japan goes shopping for soybeans, their laws forbid GMO, especially in tofu, a diet staple...

remember a few years ago a story about a small farmer in ohio being one of the few growers of non-GMO soybeans and almost his entire crop is sent to Japan each year... he was then under heavy pressure to grow GMO soy, and was still holding out by seed saving year to year, but his fields were slowly being contaminated by surrounding growers and his yields were dropping each year... don't know if he's still in business... the problem seems to be that it's next to impossible for a farmer to get his hands on seed stock that has not been modified...

seems the entire soy industry is polluted and has been for a long time now... soy is not vital to life guys... time to drop it off the grocery list... for those lactose intolerant folks, add soy to the no-list and learn to live without (includes me)...

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SILK and SOY kill your thyroid
Posted by: limburger on Jul 15, 2009 6:08 AM   
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Hypothyroidism is the first symptom that you have overconsumed edamame legumes. Do the research. You may conclude, as we did, that almond milk and rice milk taste better, and are better for your health too.

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Crap Silk is $4.49 a 1/2 gal. here: organic store brand is $3.49
Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale on Jul 15, 2009 6:24 AM   
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Now, Silk/Dean Foods has reintroduced its organic soy milk in a GREEN carton and it is a lot higher than their regular. These people are greedy and rapacious. I am going to buy some heirloom seeds and start growing my own food next year.

Thanks to the posters above on the way to make it yourself.
Although the idea that it effects the thyroid is food for thought and I am going to research that. Thanks.

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Bye Bye Toyota and Honda
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jul 15, 2009 6:35 AM   
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Slap tariffs on chinese and all asian products NOW! I'm sick of all the litmus tests liberals impose on others to pass a pure-abortion, health care by fed govt, gun control, animosity to CIA, etc. There is one bread and butter test(two if you count card check gutted by Obama): TARIFFS!!

MIllions if not tens of millions of US jobs have vanished since 1974 because of "free trade" embraced by BOTH parties. Tariffs now on Asia. To hell with their threats not to buy any American goods. They replace American goods as soon as they can anyway. When the rest of the world sees we have the guts to take on Japan, India and China, they will open their markets and compete more fairly. And if not? No more polo shirts from Central Amrica! And yes, we WILL live without diamonds from South Africa. But I believe South Africa will be more reasonable that China, the Empire of Greed itself.


Yes we may pay more. But we will have jobs, real making things jobs to pay the price hike. Better than unemployment or parttime employment or employment with no benefits. Cut off immigration from Asia totally as well. That will hit them where it hurts.

And did I mention Israel, Iraq and India are part of Asia. Oh goshy goo-no more radiologists from Asia. Who will ever read the screens? AMERICANS trained in US schools.That's who.

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Obama's Ag Sec is from a leading soy growing state
Posted by: sausage on Jul 15, 2009 6:49 AM   
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I wonder why bogus farm-boy (everyone from Iowa is automatically an expert on agriculture) Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack isn't pitching a bitch about this one.

Could it be he's a corporate whore?

He sure was as governor.

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Silk is NOT Soy
Posted by: dcande01 on Jul 15, 2009 6:49 AM   
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I dumped Silk at the time of the Chinese melamine scare. I e-mailed Silk to ask them whether their soybeans came from China, and I got back a BS e-mail saying that they got healthful soybeans, blah, blah, blah. I wrote them back saying that all of that was fine, but my specific question was whether they got their soybeans from China. I never heard back from them. Dean Foods is a disgusting company. Now, sadly, so is Silk. This is typical of what happens when a great company is bought out by a conglomerate. I no longer use Toms's of Maine, either.

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Knowledge=Power, Whole Foods Guilty of Sourcing Food from China
Posted by: stina723 on Jul 15, 2009 7:02 AM   
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Not surprised to learn this fact about Silk. I stopped all processed soy products a couple years ago, because they are essentially, a processed food, just like McDonalds or Hot Pockets and can not be good for you.

Whole Foods is guilty of sourcing food from China. I bought the ORGANIC 365 brand of frozen broccoli a couple years ago. I casually started to read the bag as I was cooking it over the stove. Well in really small print at the bottom of the bag were the words "product of china". I was livid. I emailed whole foods and was told that their inspectors (whole foods) actually go over to China and inspect the food. (got a good laugh out of that one). But on their website, they had some marketing/PR bs about food being local and from "right outside your front door". Last time I looked, China was not outside my front door. I do not trust the Whole Foods 365 or organic 365 label. Actually, I don't trust Whole Foods at all. I stopped buying the Whole Foods brand after the Chinese Broccoli fiasco. And I started shopping at the farmers market across the street. Better quality food and the amount of $$ I spend at whole foods greatly reduced so F**k them.

Only way to fight this is to boycott or not buy.

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Not to be mean, but you're in the food biz
Posted by: redbridge on Jul 15, 2009 7:49 AM   
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When Arthur Daniels bequeathed the company to his oldest son, it was re-named Archer Daniels due to his proclivity of the bow and arrow.

Couldn't help myself ... especially since the first two names in that trio are a couple of the most butchered surnames ever spoken here along the northern Mississippi.

They all get me giggling.

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I give up!!
Posted by: troubleinmind254 on Jul 15, 2009 8:09 AM   
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Nothing is safe, perfect, or make you live 120 years longer. I'm craving mcnuggets!!

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Why is everyone complaining!
Posted by: sakul72 on Jul 15, 2009 8:48 AM   
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The whole 'soy' thing is huge farce from the beginning,

http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/

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My personal Dean Foods boycott
Posted by: donnambirdlady on Jul 15, 2009 9:15 AM   
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I have been personally boycotting Dean Foods products for a few years. It is not just about the soy milk but also trying to lower organic standards for their soy and dairy products then more recently switching their dairy product brand from being organic to the meaningless "all natural."

It has gotten a little more difficult to maintain my personal boycott lately since my local store seems to have dropped many of the Organic Valley Products from their shelves. I might have to switch to another store for my weekly shopping trip. Fortunately there is more than one health food chain in my community.

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there are better (tasting) alternatives!
Posted by: sledmouth on Jul 15, 2009 9:35 AM   
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Organic Valley has been my unsweetened soy milk of choice for years! Tastes way better, certified organic, pro-US-farmer.

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It is only in the hypercapitalistic U.S.
Posted by: thedevil666 on Jul 15, 2009 10:19 AM   
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that organic is not the norm. I am in Argentina right now and am blown away every time I see a cow that can walk around and actually eat grass. I wouldn't include Argentina in this discussion but most developing countries can't afford the fertilizers and pesticides that make a crop unorganic.

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In addition
Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Jul 15, 2009 10:44 AM   
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I have always been amazed that Silk would produce the two-pack soymilk package at a reduced price, promoting consumer waste with the unnecessary thick cardboard holding the two cartons together as one package. I thought it was pretty hypocritical how I always say print on their package telling how sustainable they are by using wind energy, then turn around and unnecessarily use extra packaging. And I'm talking nice thick cardboard. With millions of consumers buying their product, this really adds up. Too bad consumers buy the two-pack anyway to save a little at the expense of the environment.
And now this. Thanks Alternet. I will adjust my consumption accordingly, even if it costs me more.
And why do we the people put up with all these free trade agreements that screw our producers and threaten our health and the environment?!?

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Coconut milk from SO DELICIOUS (Turtle Mountain) is fun for those who love the chocolate Silk
Posted by: smadaj on Jul 15, 2009 11:14 AM   
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So Delicious makes a chocolate ice cream from coconut milk if you are looking for a dairy-free chocolate treat. It has very little coconut flavor. They also make several flavors of yogurt which are good, and we've tried their coconut milk - good, but goes bad very quickly (which presumably means it's not loaded with toxic stuff to keep it "fresh.") Also I see others have posted warnings about soy, and have posted other nut milk options. We've made almond milk in our juicer before, it's good, too.

I wrote to Dean Foods, also. In addition to the CEO address at the top of this comments page, there is the consumer response address, which is DEAN FOODS CONSUMER RESPONSE, P.O. BOX 763, HORSHAM, PA 19044-0763. I told them I will not be purchasing any DEAN FOODS products anymore, and put in a request for them to purchase from American organic farmers. For what it's worth, which I doubt will be much, but, perhaps if they hear enough, they might do something. Probably figure out more clever ways to mislabel their products....

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Cheap Chinese labor?
Posted by: bkochandco on Jul 15, 2009 12:07 PM   
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"Cheap Chinese labor"?-more like slave labor or prison labor!

The term "natural" has no meaning when applied to store bought goods. Hemlock is natural but it will still kill you.

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Beware!
Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Jul 15, 2009 12:32 PM   
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A lot of posters here seem to really have a resentment towards soy. I've also seen a lot of posters over time direct a lot of hostility towards vegetarians, often times directing that anger in the form of criticizing one of the staples in the diets of many vegetarians, soy. So I come to expect that many of the anti-soy crusaders do it out of disdain for vegetarians. Scientific research mixes with ulterior methods about as good as the church mixes with the state!

That being said, I wouldn't totally dismiss any article speaking out against soy, but I would certainly encourage approaching these articles with a healthy dose of scepticism, just as one should approach any study. That is the scientific method. Anyway, one has to beware of many of these sources of information, especially if they don't cite or post any articles that don't support their preconceived notions or conclusions, ie "SoyOnline Service".

As a vegetarian who consumes considerable soy, who also has not experienced dementia, femininity, decreased fertility, cancer or inflamed thyroid (these are all claims Soyonline Service makes), I will still investigate soy. However, I will also be very aware of the source and their citings. The following article I found was a good start, and it looks at both sides of the story: linked text Any article or website that does not, is garbage. And that goes for whichever side is being presented.

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Call Dean Foods and Express your disapproval! Here's the number!
Posted by: rmjustice on Jul 15, 2009 12:52 PM   
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thanks for the info. jcalhoun!

I looked up the ph. #, called, asked for Mr. Engles and was put right through to his secretary.

I left a message stating that I was a consumer who would no longer purchase Silk and explained why. Anyone else can too!

the number is: (214) 303-3400

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Learn to make your own and save money
Posted by: MotherLodeBeth on Jul 15, 2009 1:08 PM   
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Invest in your own soy milk maker which need not be expensive. It amazes me that so many people think making food from scratch is somehow more expensive. And ask lots of questions when buy soy beans and realize when you buy organic you may pay a bit more, but you are supporting a small farmer, who in turn is keeping the money in their local community. This is what community is ALL about. And grow your own garlic. It is NOT hard and even someone with a patio can grow dozens of garlic bulbs. Here in CA I can grow garlic almost year round.

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Hemp Milk.
Posted by: DragonTat2 on Jul 15, 2009 1:24 PM   
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I prefer the Living Harvest brand. Astronomically higher in Omegas & 40% daily calcium in one 8 oz glass.

As for the Silk company, I hope they choke.

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Silk Creamer
Posted by: crobo on Jul 15, 2009 2:51 PM   
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I'm looking at a bottle of Silk Creamer, French Vanilla, that I purchased today.
"Ingredients: Organic soymilk (Filtered Water, Whole Organic Soybeans), . . ."

On Their website, SilkSoymilk.com, there's a document entitled, Soybean Sourcing and Production Program, which states that All Silk soybeans – certified organic and those naturally produced without the use of genetic modification (GMO) – are currently sourced in North America. [p. 4 of 11]

How does this information fit in with this article and why are loyal users of Silk products jumping off after reading this piece?

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Down the Sewer
Posted by: Beverlee C on Jul 15, 2009 5:00 PM   
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I just dumped 1/2 gallon of Silk Soy Lite down the sink, and will NEVER, EVERY buy their products again; I understand Whole Foods has their own brand...wonder where they get their soy beans? I think Trader Joe's has soy milk also; time to do some research.
this makes me sick.

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North America means Mexico, US or Canada .. Mexico better source than China?!
Posted by: stilldreaming on Jul 15, 2009 6:01 PM   
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and see the comment above, by the author, titled "Fine Print"

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"There's No Such Thing As Soy Milk."
Posted by: armorypk on Jul 15, 2009 7:44 PM   
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How about a little comic relief, Kids?

(Caution - Strong Language)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCZRXW-pFcE

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Hope.....Change !
Posted by: Sgellero on Jul 15, 2009 8:05 PM   
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We'll get The Messiah right on this travesty, right after he reviews NAFTA, as he promised.....cross my heart hope to die.

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Tom
Posted by: tkd82arty@netscape.net on Jul 16, 2009 1:30 AM   
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A bean is nothing more than a bean. Liquify it and you have been juice. Why do you want to call it milk?

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another former silk fan
Posted by: lalala on Jul 17, 2009 9:17 PM   
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I have ditched those scammers...we gotta support domestic organic farmers... but i keep hearing soy is kinda messed up in its unfermented form anyway. It prevents the uptake of minerals but for some reason products like soy sauce, tempeh and miso check this page out http://www.gemcultures.com/soy_cultures.htm

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sorry i left out a word...
Posted by: lalala on Jul 17, 2009 9:18 PM   
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It prevents the uptake of minerals but for some reason products like soy sauce, tempeh and miso Dont. And they add an immune system boost, they taste great and you can do it home. check this page out http://www.gemcultures.com/soy_cultures.htm

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reply from White Wave
Posted by: jarbo on Jul 20, 2009 2:57 AM   
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I emailed them saying they'd lost a loyal cusomer cause of the sneak non-organic move and undercutting of American organic soybean farmers.
Got this reply - (love the "corporatespeak":

Thank you for contacting WhiteWave Foods. We appreciate the opportunity to address your comments.

In 2008 Silk® partnered with Conservation International to create Silk’s Soybean Sourcing and Production Program, which reinforces our values and commitment to sourcing soybeans that are produced in a sustainable, socially responsible and ethical manner. We are very proud of this work, and are continuing our work with Conservation International on future initiatives.

Here are a few of the highlights from Silk’s Sourcing Program:
• Currently, we source all of our beans from North America. If the product is from Silk, the soybeans are from North America.
• Silk is not sourcing beans from China. In the past, we have sourced a small portion of beans from China. Silk stopped contracting for soybeans from China at the end of 2006.
• We only partner with suppliers that can produce beans that pass our robust quality testing and evaluation protocols.
• All Silk soybeans – non-genetically modified organism (GMO) and organic – are currently sourced domestically.
• Our non-GMO beans are put through robust quality testing and evaluation protocols.
• We have comprehensive testing protocols in place to detect GMOs, pesticide residue and other potential contaminants – all of which are above and beyond regulatory requirements.
• Organic soybeans purchased by Silk are certified organic by independent agencies accredited by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), in compliance with the organic standards set by the National Organic Program (NOP).

For further information, we encourage you to visit our Web site: (http://www.silksoymilk.com/SourcingProgram.aspx). We appreciate your ongoing support, and remain committed to consistently providing consumers with high-quality, great-tasting soymilk.

Sincerely,
Alberto Vasquez
Consumer Response Representative

Ref: N937347

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Facts on Silk
Posted by: Jarod on Jul 30, 2009 2:58 PM   
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Hey, I work for Silk, and just want to chime in to present some facts. First off, we’re committed to providing information about our products to consumers, customers, and anyone with an interest. So feel free to reach out whenever you have questions – www.silksoymilk.com - we recognize it is becoming increasingly important for people to learn more about their food, how it’s made and where it comes from. Here are a few facts we want you to know about Silk.

Silk does not use hexane within the manufacturing of any of our products

Currently, we source all of our beans from North America. If the product is from Silk, the soybeans are from North America.

Silk does not source beans from China. In the past, we have sourced a small portion of certified organic beans from China. Silk stopped contracting for soybeans from China at the end of 2006.

Silk is proud to continue offering the same certified organic products we always have, available in Plain, Vanilla and Unsweetened half gallons. If the product says it’s organic, it is.

We also offer these products and additional flavors as natural products, made with non-GMO soybeans.

Last year, we embarked on a multi-year partnership with Conservation International. We developed a Soybean Sourcing Production Program to reinforce our values and commitment to sourcing soybeans that are produced in a sustainable, socially responsible and ethical manner. The program is featured on our website if you have time to take a look - www.silksoymilk.com

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